Northern Ireland

[ulster21]

Any people besides myself from Northern Ireland on here?

Ulster 21- hailing all the way from Londonderry.

[Bullitt]

all the way from Portadown!......any more???

[Sicilian]

is Derry a second official name for londonderry or just the catholic name for it?

[ulster21]

is Derry a second official name for londonderry or just the catholic name for it?

Londonderry is the official name. Derry is what Catholics call it.

[Laury84]

so u're a protestant?
but the original name was derry,and only after the english called it Londonderry...

[ulster21]

so u're a protestant?
but the original name was derry,and only after the english called it Londonderry...

No, I was raised muslim but have recently got into scientology

[Laury84]

yes....

[ulster21]

yes....

:lol:

[Laury84]

ahah

[ulster21]

have you ever visited the British Isles before laury?

[Laury84]

I've been in London this year during the Easter's holidays and I'll go to Dublin for the end of the year..

[Laury84]

And have u ever been to Italy?

[ulster21]

I've been in London this year during the Easter's holidays and I'll go to Dublin for the end of the year..

London is a hell-hole now, rising crime rate, no British culture. Dublin is becoming the same way. When you visit Dublin I suggest you swing by Londonderry or possibly Belfast.. both are pretty safe now and alot safer than any other British city. Also the countryside is very nice & picturesque. And the hotels and food prices are still low.

[ulster21]

And have u ever been to Italy?

No, never had a real desire to....... too many tourists for my liking. If I went it would not be to Rome or Milan it would be to some out of the way place where I could meet real Italians not just other visitors & tourists.

[Laury84]

I want to see Derry and Belfast of course and I'm not afraid but I will probably see them this summer 'cause I want to do a big journey:all Ireland,Nort.Ireland and than Scotland and nort.England(Liverpool,Manchester,Newcastle and Leeds)..But I have to work before that 'cause I need money...ihih...This winter probably I'll see only Dublin 'cause I'll stay for only 5 days...
When I went to London I saw only Italians and that was very funny...but London is too expencive and I spent so much..And a lot of english treated us badly 'cause we were Italians...But on the other side there were some very kind person that treated us very well.... I really don't know what they think about us...Do u know if they hate us?What do u think about Italians?

[Laury84]

You should go in Puglia and in Toscana..no,not in Toscana 'cause there are only english up there.....ihih
But u have to see Milano...it's the most beautiful city in the world...and there are a lot of real italians if u go in the right places...and it's my city..and u have to see S.Siro...it's the 2nd biggest stadium in europe..and it's amazing...u have to see it...

[Sicilian]

No, never had a real desire to....... too many tourists for my liking. If I went it would not be to Rome or Milan it would be to some out of the way place where I could meet real Italians not just other visitors & tourists.

You should go to Sicily during Carnivale then, it is like mardi Gras and great fun. Sciacca would be a good place and it is pretty cheap too.

[Laury84]

OH SCIACCA!!I've been there a lot of times in holiday!!!!Great

[Sicilian]

OH SCIACCA!!I've been there a lot of times in holiday!!!!Great

Glad to hear you liked it man that is where my family is from. Meet anyone by the name of De Vita or Toto there by any chance?

[Laury84]

..mmmm...no..I don't remember...I went there 10-12 years ago...But all Sicilia is beautiful,like all Italia of course...I really love my country...for everything..It's the best place in the world!!ihih...

[Laury84]

ULSTER....but what team do u support in the northern Ireland league?I don't know so much about that league....

[ulster21]

ULSTER....but what team do u support in the northern Ireland league?I don't know so much about that league....

The Irish Premier League is similar to the SPL in that it is dominated by 2 teams (Linfield & Glentoran) I root for them in Europe but besides that I do not pay much attention to this league... mainly because I hail from Londonderry and there are no teams in the IPL from there.. so I have no "hometown side" to root for.

[Laury84]

The Irish Premier League is similar to the SPL in that it is dominated by 2 teams (Linfield & Glentoran) I root for them in Europe but besides that I do not pay much attention to this league... mainly because I hail from Londonderry and there are no teams in the IPL from there.. so I have no "hometown side" to root for.
Ah...u'r from derry?Not Belfast?
So do u support Derry in the eircom?

[ulster21]

Ah...u'r from derry?Not Belfast?
So do u support Derry in the eircom?

Yes, I moved to Belfast for work.

Support Derry City.... no way.. they are a strictly Catholic club. Why do you think they play in the Eircom League when they are located in Northern Ireland

[Laury84]

Yes, I moved to Belfast for work.

Support Derry City.... no way.. they are a strictly Catholic club. Why do you think they play in the Eircom League when they are located in Northern Ireland
Yeah I know that...
I wanted only 2 c ur reaction...
But I know that in Derry the 80% of the population is catholic....so u'r the minority there....
I'm joking...don't take it bad...
But...what do u do 4 work?

[Sicilian]

Derry is still your hometown though, still no love though? That is your call i am not judging, just surprised.

[Laury84]

But do u "have problems" only with the Irish Catholics,or with all the Catholics?

[ulster21]

Yeah I know that...
I wanted only 2 c ur reaction...
But I know that in Derry the 80% of the population is catholic....so u'r the minority there....
I'm joking...don't take it bad...
But...what do u do 4 work?

That's one of the reasons I left. But I'll move back eventually, they can't kick us out.

For work I do financial services work.... kinda boring but it has decent pay.

[ulster21]

Derry is still your hometown though, still no love though? That is your call i am not judging, just surprised.

Yes I have pride & love for my hometown.... but that does not mean I am going to support Derry City F.C.

[Laury84]

That's one of the reasons I left. But I'll move back eventually, they can't kick us out.

For work I do financial services work.... kinda boring but it has decent pay.
But how's the situation there now?
There are a lot of riots or not anymore?
And the Bogside is still the Bogside of the 70s?

[ulster21]

But do u "have problems" only with the Irish Catholics,or with all the Catholics?

Only with Irish Catholics who support terrorist organizations & who support communist politicians like those in Sein Fein.

Northern Ireland is not about religion as much as it is about ethnicity.

When I went to school in the U.S. my two best mates were Catholic, one of mostly Polish origin & one of mostly Italian origin.

The statement that Protestants in Ulster hate all Catholics is simple Republican propaganda.

[Laury84]

Only with Irish Catholics who support terrorist organizations & who support communist politicians like those in Sein Fein.

Northern Ireland is not about religion as much as it is about ethnicity.

When I went to school in the U.S. my two best mates were Catholic, one of mostly Polish origin & one of mostly Italian origin.

The statement that Protestants in Ulster hate all Catholics is simple Republican propaganda.
Ah...Did u go to school in the us?wow...
But there are a lot of protestants who support terrorist oraganizations too...so u have to hate them too...

[ulster21]

Ah...Did u go to school in the us?wow...
But there are a lot of protestants who support terrorist oraganizations too...so u have to hate them too...

Yes.... for some college.

I do not support the members of "terrorist groups" who sell drugs to their own people & are involved in prostitution... there deserve to be hanging from a tree branch as well.

My solution for Northern Ireland would be to seperate the country into two.. one being for Catholics & one part being for Protestants. Catholics govern Catholics & Protestants govern Protestants. That is the only way to have long-lasting peace. Of course this would be difficult because it is a politically incorrect idea. Look at the model of Yugoslavia. That region is now peacful because each ethnic group governs themselves. Multiculturalism causes too many problems.

[Laury84]

Yes.... for some college.

I do not support the members of "terrorist groups" who sell drugs to their own people & are involved in prostitution... there deserve to be hanging from a tree branch as well.

My solution for Northern Ireland would be to seperate the country into two.. one being for Catholics & one part being for Protestants. Catholics govern Catholics & Protestants govern Protestants. That is the only way to have long-lasting peace. Of course this would be difficult because it is a politically incorrect idea. Look at the model of Yugoslavia. That region is now peacful because each ethnic group governs themselves. Multiculturalism causes too many problems.
yeah...or u can leave north Ireland to the catholics and go back in england...but I think that this will never happen....
The funny thing is that now 1/3 of the English population is catholic and with irish blood..and in nort irel there are still a lot of problems and not in England!!
I don't know...we're in 2006 and a country like the UK has still got these problems...

Btw...where did u study in the us?And why did u come back in Nor.Irel?

[ulster21]

yeah...or u can leave north Ireland to the catholics and go back in england...but I think that this will never happen....
The funny thing is that now 1/3 of the English population is catholic and with irish blood..and in nort irel there are still a lot of problems and not in England!!
I don't know...we're in 2006 and a country like the UK has still got these problems...

Btw...where did u study in the us?And why did u come back in Nor.Irel?

- Go to this webite www.theulsterscots.com , it gives a good background.

- The "funny" thing is that in another 40 years England will be a muslim country. That is why I love the Waterside in Londonderry so much. It is a place that still contains a Protestant British culture unlike the major cities in England.

- I studied near Washington D.C. I came back to Ulster because it is 20 times safer than any U.S city. I never went to the U.S. with the intention of staying.. especially Washington D.C. ..... what a hell-hole that was. I seriously think that the inner city of Washington is more dangerous than Iraq. Gangs, Drugs, Crime is everywhere.

[Laury84]

- Go to this webite www.theulsterscots.com , it gives a good background.

- The "funny" thing is that in another 40 years England will be a muslim country. That is why I love the Waterside in Londonderry so much. It is a place that still contains a Protestant British culture unlike the major cities in England.

- I studied near Washington D.C. I came back to Ulster because it is 20 times safer than any U.S city. I never went to the U.S. with the intention of staying.. especially Washington D.C. ..... what a hell-hole that was. I seriously think that the inner city of Washington is more dangerous than Iraq. Gangs, Drugs, Crime is everywhere.
I'll go to the webside..so u'r a ulster-scots?
I didn't know that the us cities were so dangerous..expecially Washington!!!
I've always wanted to move in the us (to NYC),expecially when I was younger, but now I would like to move to England or Ireland..But if I'll do that,I will miss Italy so much...I really love my country...lol

[ulster21]

I'll go to the webside..so u'r a ulster-scots?
I didn't know that the us cities were so dangerous..expecially Washington!!!
I've always wanted to move in the us (to NYC),expecially when I was younger, but now I would like to move to England or Ireland..But if I'll do that,I will miss Italy so much...I really love my country...lol

Yes, Washington is terrible. Northern Virginia is a very nice area but it is very expensive. Go to smaller English cities in the South if you are considering visiting England. Northern Cities have lost most of their English culture because of mass third word immigration. Birmingham & London will be majority muslim in the next 10 years. England is dead!!!

If I were you I would stay in Italy.

[Laury84]

Yes, Washington is terrible. Northern Virginia is a very nice area but it is very expensive. Go to smaller English cities in the South if you are considering visiting England. Northern Cities have lost most of their English culture because of mass third word immigration. Birmingham & London will be majority muslim in the next 10 years. England is dead!!!

If I were you I would stay in Italy.
Yeah...I would like to stay in Italy..But I'm studying 4 a work that pretty much doesn't excist in Italy..So If I wanna do that I have to go away from Italy...That's sad...

And what about Liverpool?Or Glasgow in Sc?

The thing that makes me scare is the difference of culture between us and the english...I don't know..we're totally different!

PS.I'm reading ur website!

[Sicilian]

American cities are pretty much as Ulster described, i too would not reccomend moving to one. They are unfriendly in nearly every case. The only possible exception is Boston, parts of it are very nice. I would reccomend Montreal as well that is a very nice city.

if you don't mind me asking, what kind of work do you do that you cannot do in Italy?

[Fenerliyim]

Matters where u live in America, i live in a real nice neighborhood and i love the US.

[Fenerliyim]

I'll go to the webside..so u'r a ulster-scots?
I didn't know that the us cities were so dangerous..expecially Washington!!!
I've always wanted to move in the us (to NYC),expecially when I was younger, but now I would like to move to England or Ireland..But if I'll do that,I will miss Italy so much...I really love my country...lol

I've been to D.C about 10 times and its horrible. I didnt expect things like that, its just like Hollywood where only Beverly Hills is the only nice place. The rest is just a ghetto

[nachi88]

I studied near Washington D.C. I came back to Ulster because it is 20 times safer than any U.S city. I never went to the U.S. with the intention of staying.. especially Washington D.C. ..... what a hell-hole that was. I seriously think that the inner city of Washington is more dangerous than Iraq. Gangs, Drugs, Crime is everywhere.

I am dissapointed reading this. I always thought that I would eventually go to some medium sized American city where life isnt so fast as an exchange student. I really want to see the place. From what my freinds tell me, the American countryside is much more welcoming to a non English speaking person, than the French country side is to a non French speaking person (I say this from expereince).

[Fenerliyim]

The people in the midwest and south are much more warm hearted and welcoming. The east is especially a cold hearted place. Everyones to busy to worry about someone else.

[Laury84]

I always thought that the Americans were more friendly than the english...But if u tell me that's wrong..I don't know what 2 think 'coz the english that I met were so unfriendly!!S***...I would like 2 move in an english-speaking country...but where?!?!AHHHHH!!!

4 Sicilian: I'm studying biology and I wanna do expecially research,but in Italy there aren't money 4 this and we've got some other problems..4 example we've got the vatican and we can't do a lot of experiments 'coz the church says that they're unmoral or stuff...It's really difficult...Infact all the people that wanna do that usually go in the us or canada,germany,Belgium,etc...That's s*** 'coz Italy is the best place in the world...lol

[ulster21]

Matters where u live in America, i live in a real nice neighborhood and i love the US.

Yes, the suburbs & countryside are nice areas but the problem is that the housing prices in the suburbs of the U.S. are getting very expensive. So in order to live in a safe area you have to be rich.

[Laury84]

I'm not rich...so i'll never move to the us...lol

[Laury84]

- Go to this webite www.theulsterscots.com , it gives a good background.

- The "funny" thing is that in another 40 years England will be a muslim country. That is why I love the Waterside in Londonderry so much. It is a place that still contains a Protestant British culture unlike the major cities in England.

- I studied near Washington D.C. I came back to Ulster because it is 20 times safer than any U.S city. I never went to the U.S. with the intention of staying.. especially Washington D.C. ..... what a hell-hole that was. I seriously think that the inner city of Washington is more dangerous than Iraq. Gangs, Drugs, Crime is everywhere.
But what do u have against muslims?

[Fenerliyim]

Yes, the suburbs & countryside are nice areas but the problem is that the housing prices in the suburbs of the U.S. are getting very expensive. So in order to live in a safe area you have to be rich.

The taxes are ridiculous here. But some of the surrounding areas arent as expensive. Plus u dont need to live in a house u can live in an apt. They are much cheaper


OR if ur a student u can get 3-4 friends and rent a house togther with each getting their own room and stuff.

[ulster21]

But what do u have against muslims?

Nothing.... I just don't want them taking over my country!! What is so wrong about that?

[Laury84]

Nothing.... I just don't want them taking over my country!! What is so wrong about that?
I was only asking man!!!

[Laury84]

The taxes are ridiculous here. But some of the surrounding areas arent as expensive. Plus u dont need to live in a house u can live in an apt. They are much cheaper


OR if ur a student u can get 3-4 friends and rent a house togther with each getting their own room and stuff.
ihih...the apartment...u americans use to live in big houses with gardens and stuff...here the 90% of the italians lives in apartments...me too...

[Fenerliyim]

Most apts are in the cities and more city like towns or poorer towns. But most towns have apts made for the not so rich. Not too many ofcourse, its mostly houses with gardens and stuff. Up the hill some of my neighbors have their own tennis courts as well.

[Laury84]

Most apts are in the cities and more city like towns or poorer towns. But most towns have apts made for the not so rich. Not too many ofcourse, its mostly houses with gardens and stuff. Up the hill some of my neighbors have their own tennis courts as well.
I've got 4 rooms,a kitchen,2 bathrooms and.....stop!!!!And this is a big house 4 Milan...

[Fenerliyim]

lol where to begin

[Laury84]

..lol....It's totally different from the us...Ur smallest house is bigger than our biggest house!lol

[Fenerliyim]

The US cant be described its much much different then Turkey, ITaly and the rest of the world. First off, its much bigger and there is much more room. I doubt there is enough space in Italy for everyone to have big nice homes.

You cant explain what it is like to live in America. Its much more different. You have to experience it.

[Laury84]

The US cant be described its much much different then Turkey, ITaly and the rest of the world. First off, its much bigger and there is much more room. I doubt there is enough space in Italy for everyone to have big nice homes.

You cant explain what it is like to live in America. Its much more different. You have to experience it.
Yeah I have to...And a lot of the americans have to experience the italian life...and understand that it's not the rest of world that is defferent from them,but that are them that r different from the rest of the world...

[Fenerliyim]

We are different, and different is better. :p

[Laury84]

We are different, and different is better. :p
Not always different is better!!!
Btw I like 2 see person like u that r proud of their nationality...even if they'r americans!!!!lol...I'm joking...I love america..maybe...lol

[Fenerliyim]

In this case different is better. Do italians also drive on the wrong side of the road?

I'm turkish but i have lived in America all my life and like it here. The US is my home while Turkey is my soul and blood.

[ulster21]

In this case different is better. Do italians also drive on the wrong side of the road?

I'm turkish but i have lived in America all my life and like it here. The US is my home while Turkey is my soul and blood.

have you ever been to Turkey? if not, then you can not really make that statement

[Fenerliyim]

I have gone to Turkey almost every summer except 2 or 3. So yes ofcourse i've been to turkey

[Laury84]

In this case different is better. Do italians also drive on the wrong side of the road?

I'm turkish but i have lived in America all my life and like it here. The US is my home while Turkey is my soul and blood.
In the wrong side?!?!?!That are the english....please...

[Laury84]

have you ever been to Turkey? if not, then you can not really make that statement
Why he can't?If u've got english blood 'coz ur parents are english but u live in Australia and u never saw england,u can't be proud of ur english blood?

[ulster21]

Why he can't?If u've got english blood 'coz ur parents are english but u live in Australia and u never saw england,u can't be proud of ur english blood?

You can be proud but to make the statement "Turkey is my blood & soul" would not be truthful for someone who has not experienced Turkish culture.

[Laury84]

You can be proud but to make the statement "Turkey is my blood & soul" would not be truthful for someone who has not experienced Turkish culture.
mmmm...but maybe he experienced it in his family...

[ulster21]

mmmm...but maybe he experienced it in his family...

good try but..... NO.... you need to spend time in the culture not just a household.

[ulster21]

:focus: How the hell did a thread entitled Northern Ireland turn into a discussion about some bloke from New Jersey's Turkish roots. :lol:

[Laury84]

:focus: How the hell did a thread entitled Northern Ireland turn into a discussion about some bloke from New Jersey's Turkish roots. :lol:
lololololololol....
My best friend is italo-english and she always says that she's only Italian..but her sister says that she's english...now she lives in manchester,so she can say that she has got english blood and soul?

[Sicilian]

Laury i didn't mean to dissuade you from living in America or even visiting.

Don't get me wrong, i love it here. We have a little of everything. Beaches, mountains big cities, little cities, open coutnry, Everything.

But if you want to move to a big city that is nice they are hhard to find. NYC is nice to visity but i used to live there and didn't like it, people are unfriendly oftentimes.

But if you go out west it is the opposite, everyone is friendly and outgoing. Same with the coastal south and vermnot and places.

If you have any particular questions feel free to ask and i will be happy to answer.

[Fenerliyim]

I hate NYC. Everyones in a rush, its a black and white place, all skyscrapers, noisey, full of traffic, cold people. Its horrible.

Laury u should visit orlando florida and go to the theme parks there, its great.

Like sicilian said we have everything here.

[Laury84]

mmm...I don't wanna go 2 the south 4 living 'coz they don't have seasons!!I love winter,it's my fav season...and in that places it doesn't exist!!

[Fenerliyim]

Just visit, its loads of fun. U can move back up north later.

[Laury84]

Just visit, its loads of fun. U can move back up north later.
All right...I'll visit Orlando...but right now I don't have money to do that journey...I should pay 1000 € only 4 the plane ticket!!!that's too much 4 me...I'm only a student...

[ulster21]

Have you planned out your trip to Ireland yet Laury??

[Laury84]

Have you planned out your trip to Ireland yet Laury??
I hav to search all the things that I should see in Dublin...but I've got no time to do that...:sad:...I've got too many exams in uni...:sad:...