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handofgod
12-11-2005, 06:18 PM
Re: Do You Feel The Fifa Qualifications Are Retarded?
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Why Mexico is seeded? They suck ass, they have never won anything important.
The only reasonthey always go to the WorlD Cup is because the face the kinds of Haiti, Cuba, Dominican Republican, should I continue???
Because of this they are always ranked high!!! Thus get a chance to play with the kinds of Argentina, Brazil, Italy in tourneys like the Gold Cup, etc where the super powers show up with their Team C. Of course evey now and then they beat one of those teams filled with subs. Then they make so much out of when their clubs make it far in the Copa Libertadores. Of course!!! All the best players from South America don't play in the Copa Libertadores!! They play in Europe, you f****g retards!!!
This is a fact however not too many people (esp. Mexicans) don't know: You were offered to play the World Cup Qualifiers with all of South America...guess what your response was: No thanks. Of course.
Talk about FIFA being retarded, who the f*** wants to see the same number of countries from the CONCACAF as of CONMEBOL (South America)??!!!!
Why does Australia have to face Uruguay and TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO faces BAHARHIN (f***, can't even spell it!!!)??? WTF!!!!!!!
Why is USA ranked and seeded lower than MEXICO??!!!!! USA has beat their ass several times now, including the lasr World Cup!!!!
Mexico sucks, wait and see in Germany. My prediction: They will beat Iran -my high school team can beat Iran- , will lose against Angola and Portugal. And hopefully this Mexico crap will be addressed by FIFA and next time just like in Europe there should be a Qualifiers for the whole Americas. It is not fair for South American countries to kill each other for 4 places in the WC (when you know Brazil and Argentina will always go) and Mexico has to face Haiti, Cuba, etc
Orgulho Judeu
12-11-2005, 06:21 PM
dude fvck off...seriously...i cant say i think Mexico is great, but come on...wtf...anyway Portugal will give them a hell of a time...
stuglue
12-11-2005, 06:22 PM
I don't think Mexico is a bad team at all.This year's Confed Cup they beat Brazil.It shows they are a team to take seriously.Did'nt they beat Italy last time.
handofgod
12-11-2005, 06:32 PM
When has Brazil, Argentina, etc given a f*** about the Confederations piece of s*** Cup!!!
No one cares, why did Mexico refused to even think of the thought of palying WC Qualifiers with South American countries??!!! This is not new and it was proposedback then when Mexican teams wnated to play in the Copa Libertadores.
Remember my words. They will never accept to play the qualifiers with South American teams. They may have some success but they will not go to the World Cup every single time, c'mon!!!!!!
P.S: How many Mexican players play in Europe??!!! Mmmmm
stuglue
12-11-2005, 06:47 PM
Mexico have participated in a few Copa America's.
handofgod
12-11-2005, 06:53 PM
and never won!!!!
stuglue
12-11-2005, 06:55 PM
You can't tell me that Mexico are any worse than Bolivia,Chile and Peru
handofgod
12-11-2005, 07:08 PM
Well, not, true but...when is Mexico going to have the BALLS to play with them to qualify ti the WC!!!!!!!!
stuglue
12-11-2005, 07:12 PM
If you had a guarantee to qualify EVERYTIME would you give it up?Cause not.It's up to the other teams in CONCACRAP to better themselves.
handofgod
12-11-2005, 07:14 PM
What A Pussy Answer!!!!! Suck This!!!
stuglue
12-11-2005, 07:16 PM
Put that away :lol:
soniq
12-11-2005, 07:21 PM
Re: Do You Feel The Fifa Qualifications Are Retarded?
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Why Mexico is seeded? They suck ass, they have never won anything important.
The only reasonthey always go to the WorlD Cup is because the face the kinds of Haiti, Cuba, Dominican Republican, should I continue???
Because of this they are always ranked high!!! Thus get a chance to play with the kinds of Argentina, Brazil, Italy in tourneys like the Gold Cup, etc where the super powers show up with their Team C. Of course evey now and then they beat one of those teams filled with subs. Then they make so much out of when their clubs make it far in the Copa Libertadores. Of course!!! All the best players from South America don't play in the Copa Libertadores!! They play in Europe, you f****g retards!!!
This is a fact however not too many people (esp. Mexicans) don't know: You were offered to play the World Cup Qualifiers with all of South America...guess what your response was: No thanks. Of course.
Talk about FIFA being retarded, who the f*** wants to see the same number of countries from the CONCACAF as of CONMEBOL (South America)??!!!!
Why does Australia have to face Uruguay and TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO faces BAHARHIN (f***, can't even spell it!!!)??? WTF!!!!!!!
Why is USA ranked and seeded lower than MEXICO??!!!!! USA has beat their ass several times now, including the lasr World Cup!!!!
Mexico sucks, wait and see in Germany. My prediction: They will beat Iran -my high school team can beat Iran- , will lose against Angola and Portugal. And hopefully this Mexico crap will be addressed by FIFA and next time just like in Europe there should be a Qualifiers for the whole Americas. It is not fair for South American countries to kill each other for 4 places in the WC (when you know Brazil and Argentina will always go) and Mexico has to face Haiti, Cuba, etc
guy,your mind is all fvcked! your highschool team can beat iran?i dont think so iran can stand against any team and iran can fvck your mamma,and BTW im from iran and mexico is our rival but i dont go around the forums posting retardet shit like u! i just post iran can beat mexico mark my words,i dont go swearing around,u seriously have problems
stuglue
12-11-2005, 07:26 PM
Think of it this way HandofGod.If MExico goes to CONMEBOL that means we will have one more CONCACAF team at the WC even worse than the other teams,we might have to watch Haiti or El Salvador so thank them they are saving us from having to watch some real dross
S4cePL
12-11-2005, 07:32 PM
He's probably a disgrunteled US fan who--like many-- is already thinking of excuses for why the almighty US can't advance out of a group that does not include the likes of T&T or Panama. It's ok we understand that you special peopel would be happy to be in a group with Togo or Saudi Arabia because you are so used to crushing third world countries that palying the likes of Italy or the Czech Republic makes you sh*t your pants with the actual games still half a year away. So sad.
handofgod
12-11-2005, 07:33 PM
SONIQ you are right. I'm sorry, I just get too involved. Iran has all of my respect. Do you know how many countires they had to overcome to the WC?
That is remarkable, tha same for African countries. However can you seriously tell me Mexico and the US deserve that cakewalk facing other countries that are simply not in the same level??
Mexico has a good team. I know that, but to have them seeded as a head of group must be an insult to others: Netherlands, Czech R, Portugal, South Korea, etc.
S4cePL
12-11-2005, 07:41 PM
Mexico does play weak opposition during their qualifiers but I actually think that France is undeserving of a top seed. Aside from winning the WC in 98 what has France done since then? In 2002 they didn't get past the first round and during these qualifiers, they almost didn't qualify. I think that Israel should qualified in their palce instead.
bboy treble
12-11-2005, 08:00 PM
aside from losing 2nd round all the time what has mexico done tho??
handofgod
12-11-2005, 08:06 PM
Bravo!!! Well said!!! WFT has Mexico done in the WC????!!!!!
pisulino
12-11-2005, 08:28 PM
You guys are going to have a heart attack over this.....
Let the Mexican brothers have some fun 2.
:rapture:
bboy treble
12-11-2005, 09:04 PM
i still think they are a decent team and they will make it to round 2
culooche
12-11-2005, 09:21 PM
Doon't talk sh** on IRAN. Iran can beat Mexico and the rest of the teams in there group. I fthey just play there game, and not play like sh** they'lle beat Mexico, Portugal, and Angola, but there probably foing to have a hard time with Mexico and Portugal. MEXICO IS OVER-RANKED they suck. P[ortugal just kills it in most of there games.
Ilovefootie
12-11-2005, 09:32 PM
Mexico isnt that bad. Mexico is way better than Costa Rica, for instance. That's why Central and North America should have only 2 spots in the WC.
But why Mexico have his own group? Should be Holland, for instance. Fifa did this to draw Serbia (they say it's the worst european nt.) in the groups of Brasil or Argentina, so the way of the european nts would be way easier. And that's what happened. Argetina got Serbia, and all europeans nt have easy groups.
wolverine
12-11-2005, 09:34 PM
Mexico at the moment is the 3rd best team in the Americas behind Argentina and Brazil.
RojINeGrO5051
12-11-2005, 09:35 PM
just another hater :yell:
unam_mx
12-11-2005, 09:50 PM
How many times are u going to post the same post?Its like 30 of them already, calm down dude.
As for Mexico, they only make it to the 2nd rd but only a few teams have done that 3 times in a row...Bra, Ger, Ita, and one more I believe.The point is that its some pretty good company.It gets old that they repeatedly cant get past the 2nd rd but its still a pretty good accomplishment that shows consistency and that they are more then just a weak team playing in a crap region.
And quit whining and moaning about Mexico getting seeded, write a letter to FIFA and complain to them about the system they used...cause going by the system Mexico more then deserved to be seeded.It values the the performance in the last two WCs plus the current FIFA Ranking--which explains why the Czechs and Holland werent seeded (missed 02') , as well as Portugal (missed 98', didnt get out of the group stage0 in 02'), and the USA (finished 32nd out of 32 teams in 98').It also explains why Mexico got more points then Arg and Fra (failed to get out of the group stage in 02').And were u joking about South Korea deserving it over Mexico?
Mexicans playing in Europe...Mexico pays big bucks man, usually more then what Mexicans can get in Europe.There's talented players that couldve played in their prime--Carmona, Suarez, Hermosillo, Zague, Galindo, Palencia, Arellano, etc.Also dont u think that Paraguayan Jose Saturnino Cardozo couldve played in Europe?You bet he couldve, but instead he spent his prime in Mexico cause Toluca was paying him like $4 mill a season.I dont think Mexico has produced any stars (other then Hugo Sanchez) but they have produced players that couldve been solid in Europe, they just never chose to go or in some cases got overlooked cause they were not Brasilian or Argentinian. Anyways our U-17 champs will take care of that, like 10 of them have already signed with Eurpean teams...and Dos Santos will undoubtedly become Mexico's 2nd international superstar.Vela has a chance as well and dont forget about Guzman.
frankie0006
12-11-2005, 11:06 PM
mexico wont pass to the next round, they will finish third in their group.
All great teams, France, Spain and Germany hasnt understimated their rivals, even if they got easy groups. Domenech told the press that nothing is written in soccer, klinsmann told that Costa Rica and Ecuador were great teams (but we know they arent, its part of being a gentleman and mantain yourself on the ground). But Mexico began to talk about they see themselves in 16s, its possible, but u dont have to understimate teams like Iran, and Angola (that sent Nigeria home), thats too bad, they said Angola and Iran were easy teams, and that words could cost their elimination.
They are overrated, of course FIFA ranked them there to put serbia with argentina or brazil. Holland deserved the top spot. And please doesnt say the 1 0 at confederations, no one cares about that cup, brazilians doesnt want to get injured and play at 20%. Im not american, but i dont like mexico.
soniq
12-11-2005, 11:17 PM
SONIQ you are right. I'm sorry, I just get too involved. Iran has all of my respect. Do you know how many countires they had to overcome to the WC?
That is remarkable, tha same for African countries. However can you seriously tell me Mexico and the US deserve that cakewalk facing other countries that are simply not in the same level??
Mexico has a good team. I know that, but to have them seeded as a head of group must be an insult to others: Netherlands, Czech R, Portugal, South Korea, etc.
yeah i agree mexico shoudnt be seeded top team but! im happy because we(iran) stand a chance
Orgulho Judeu
12-11-2005, 11:34 PM
Meixco is good, they beat us...we do care about the Confed. Cup...you lsot go home
RojINeGrO5051
12-12-2005, 12:40 AM
u all might think that mexico is going to overlook these teams but truth is they never over look anybody win or lose
bboy treble
12-12-2005, 12:57 AM
mexico is like the fat girl who thinks she is hot cause her mom tells her
they will make top 16 but wont make it past 2nd round
Kinger
12-12-2005, 01:04 AM
I really am tired of people bashing the north, central and caribbean zone. Considering that we have just 3 big countries I would say we are doing pretty well. Costa Rica aren't pushovers, and Trinidad are 1st timers, and USA is only getting better and Mexico is well Mexico, we need Mexico in order for the rest of us to get better.
dcunited1
12-12-2005, 02:23 AM
maybe MEXICO would have it harder if they qualified in the UEFA? RIGHT! LATVIA,SLOVANIA,BELARUS,ESTONIA,CYPRUS,LUXEMBURGH,LITHUANIA,GEORGIA,MALTA, SLOVAKIA, AND MANY MORE YEA I GUESS THEY ARE ALL STRONGER THAN MEXICO RIGHT? I'M NOT A MEXICAN FAN BUT GET REAL GIVE MEXICO THESE TEAMS AND YOU WILL SEE IF THEY QUALIFY OR NOT; OH BY THE WAY MAYBE ENGLANDS GROUP WAS ENGLAND GERMANY CZECH REP AND ITALY; OH AND PORTUGALS GROUP WAS PORTUGAL SPAIN, HOLLAND, POLAND; OR DID THEY ALL QUALIFY AGAINST THE ABOVE TEAMS? MAN GET REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 LOL
Wakarahen
12-12-2005, 02:46 AM
You are sounding like a cracked record......time to move on heh?
dcunited1
12-12-2005, 03:39 AM
hey wako! chill and face the facts ; you;re commenting on my posts with cheap replies; i don't want to hear what you think of my posts i just want you to listen to what i have to say because it does make sense right? what's your opinion! is the uefa really tough to qualify for the world cup? don't be calling me a broken record cause if i'm going to count how many times people talk about the concacaf i'll get sick; but i guess you don't like to hear the truth? correct? learn and shhhhhhhh!
ricoo9
12-12-2005, 07:35 PM
Mexico at the moment is the 3rd best team in the Americas behind Argentina and Brazil.
Did u put that post so we can all laugh or r u serious? :lol:
ricoo9
12-12-2005, 07:42 PM
mexico wont pass to the next round, they will finish third in their group.
All great teams, France, Spain and Germany hasnt understimated their rivals, even if they got easy groups. Domenech told the press that nothing is written in soccer, klinsmann told that Costa Rica and Ecuador were great teams (but we know they arent, its part of being a gentleman and mantain yourself on the ground). But Mexico began to talk about they see themselves in 16s, its possible, but u dont have to understimate teams like Iran, and Angola (that sent Nigeria home), thats too bad, they said Angola and Iran were easy teams, and that words could cost their elimination.
They are overrated, of course FIFA ranked them there to put serbia with argentina or brazil. Holland deserved the top spot. And please doesnt say the 1 0 at confederations, no one cares about that cup, brazilians doesnt want to get injured and play at 20%. Im not american, but i dont like mexico.
That is so true, MExican players , ppl everybody in that country likes to talk so much garbage, thats why in conmebol nobody likes them. What is it that makes them talk so much crap? is it all the spicy food or is it the beans? :lol: Mexico hasnt won crap and they never will
RojINeGrO5051
12-12-2005, 09:10 PM
u dont like us we dont like u so heres a BIG ***K YOU from the dirty side of the frontera viva mexico!!!!!!!!1
ricoo9
12-13-2005, 03:50 PM
u dont like us we dont like u so heres a BIG ***K YOU from the dirty side of the frontera viva mexico!!!!!!!!1
I'm glad u know ur a dirty mexican :kiss:
dreamwh
12-13-2005, 04:16 PM
I'm not a big fan of Mexico... the seeding is debatable. Beating Brazil is not a big thing... heck even Australia has beaten Brazil.
But I do think they are way better than Saudi Arabia, Uruguay, Australia or the African teams (the ones that qualified for '06). And they play a lot more entertaining game than England, USA or Germany (the most boring team on earth!).
I have never seen any team having an easy time beating Mexico in the WC... They are not brilliant, but they deserve to be up there with best 32 teams in the world.
The only teams that i feel really don't deserve a place in the WC are Saudi and T&T. CONCACAF deserves only 2 spots in the WCs... 3 or 4 is plain ridiculuos.
ricoo9
12-13-2005, 04:25 PM
Mexico is not better than Uruguay. Ur comparing crap to class.
Carini
Recoba
Forlan
Diogo
Chevanton
Garcia
Zalayeta
Montero
vs.
??? guatemo blanco? :lol:
dreamwh
12-13-2005, 06:04 PM
Mexico is not better than Uruguay. Ur comparing crap to class.
Carini
Recoba
Forlan
Diogo
Chevanton
Garcia
Zalayeta
Montero
vs.
??? guatemo blanco? :lol:
Yo... they got beaten to the WC by AUSTRALIA!!!!
I agree Zalayeta, Recoba, Forlan, et al are awesome players.... but all that fire power don't mean a thing if you don't qualify for the WC. All they had to do was beat Australia, which had been playing teams like New Zealand, Tonga, Samoa and the likes!!!!!
In fact, Australia have it so easy in the Ocenia zone that they BEGGED FIFA to be included in the ASIAN Football Confederations from the next World Cup onwards!!!!
FIFA & AFC ok'ed that plea by the way...
ricoo9
12-13-2005, 06:21 PM
Yo... they got beaten to the WC by AUSTRALIA!!!!
I agree Zalayeta, Recoba, Forlan, et al are awesome players.... but all that fire power don't mean a thing if you don't qualify for the WC. All they had to do was beat Australia, which had been playing teams like New Zealand, Tonga, Samoa and the likes!!!!!
In fact, Australia have it so easy in the Ocenia zone that they BEGGED FIFA to be included in the ASIAN Football Confederations from the next World Cup onwards!!!!
FIFA & AFC ok'ed that plea by the way...
Dude, all of aussies players play in the big leagues, epl, calcio, etc... of course they r gonna qualify, their the only team thats decent in that area. Now Mexico is always gonna qualify also for the same reason, they beat haiti, dominica etc. Did u even see the Urugay - Australia match? it was a very fought out game and Australia won in penalties, it could of gone to either two.
Mexico has never beat Australia, only lost
This is the last games played Mexico-Australia
30-MAY-01 SUWON (Korea Republic) Mexico vs. Australia 0:2
FIFA Confederations Cup Korea/Japan 2001
12-DEC-97 RIYADH (Saudi Arabia) Mexico vs. Australia 1:3
FIFA Confederations Cup Saudi Arabia 1997
PunkguyEG
12-13-2005, 06:27 PM
Hey man more respect for Australia. I think they are a pretty stable team nowadays. Defenitely, Uruguay is better than Mexico.
This guy UMAN said in various occasions that Uruguay sucked because they lost to Australia recently. He also said, that australia is probably the worst team in the world cup and that losing to them was ridiculous. He also said that comparing Australia to mexico was "like insulting".
I was wondering if Australia and Mexico had ever played. This is what I found:
30-MAY-01 SUWON (Korea Republic) Mexico vs. Australia 0:2
FIFA Confederations Cup Korea/Japan 2001
12-DEC-97 RIYADH (Saudi Arabia) Mexico vs. Australia 1:3
FIFA Confederations Cup Saudi Arabia 1997
According to this site, these are the only 2 times they have ever played. Mexico losing both times. I don't know if this is right or they played in other occasions. Can anyone tell me?
These results are are not that recent. However, I think Australia is way better now. I believe they have a really good team , with all their players playing in Europe. Certainly, they can beat Mexico with greater chances now than before
RojINeGrO5051
12-13-2005, 07:34 PM
mexico is in the world cup and seeded and u guys just want to talk shit bout how they suck lol .............u dont know shit bout futbol i mean soccer if u think mexico sucks by the way ur mom likes it dirty n the bed :sad: :ronaldo: :lol:
Gambler757
12-13-2005, 08:09 PM
Mexico can t get any respect because of their group (concacaf) common guys they are playing countries who lack skill, now they chickened out (were offered to play with south american) because they like the easy road to the WC, Australia just has decided to join the asia groups for next qualifiers ( no fear on their part) even though teams are much better !!!
Mexico will make it 2 next round because once again they have an easy group, wins against Iran and Angola should get them through!!! The confed cup now has to be another one of those bullshit cups ( who really remembers who has won that cup??? Not me !!!
Heart wins games not getting the easy road, and Mexico always has the easiest qualifying road to the big tourneys, but unfortunately when they reach there they never make it far!!
Also the Mexican national team are still in Lingo, you have that idiot Sanchez who wants to take over the team thinking he is god!!!
And whoever said a mexican player will make more playing in mexico than in Europe , dude check your info, you are completly confused. Every player wants to play with the best , so the fact is that the mexican players can t cut it on a european team!!
RojINeGrO5051
12-13-2005, 08:57 PM
stop hating homey :boo:
unam_mx
12-13-2005, 11:53 PM
Mexico can t get any respect because of their group (concacaf) common guys they are playing countries who lack skill, now they chickened out (were offered to play with south american) because they like the easy road to the WC, Australia just has decided to join the asia groups for next qualifiers ( no fear on their part) even though teams are much better !!!
Mexico will make it 2 next round because once again they have an easy group, wins against Iran and Angola should get them through!!! The confed cup now has to be another one of those bullshit cups ( who really remembers who has won that cup??? Not me !!!
Heart wins games not getting the easy road, and Mexico always has the easiest qualifying road to the big tourneys, but unfortunately when they reach there they never make it far!!
Also the Mexican national team are still in Lingo, you have that idiot Sanchez who wants to take over the team thinking he is god!!!
And whoever said a mexican player will make more playing in mexico than in Europe , dude check your info, you are completly confused. Every player wants to play with the best , so the fact is that the mexican players can t cut it on a european team!!
Would u guys cut the crap about them being offered to qualify with Conmebol and chickening out, that is complete BS...never happened.Besides that is just plain stupid, if u take just Mexico then the Concacaf becomes that much more pathetic.Join all of the Americas and give them 8 or 9 spots.
Qualifying is easy...but check the groups they were assigned prior to this easy one that they got.Not so easy eh?Yet they consistently make it to the 2nd round, not a huge deal but still a good accomplishment that not many teams can claim.It also makes them legit and proves that they arent just a below-average team playing in a crap region, cause if that was the case they wouldnt make it to the 2nd rd so consistantly.
Mexicans dont produce as much talent as south american countries like Arg, Bra, and Uru...so they pay big bucks to the players that do have the capability of playing in Europe.Either that or they just get overlooked cause theyre not Argentinian or Brasilian.You cant honestly tell me that players like Arellano, Palencia, Suarez, Carmona, Hermosillo, Aspe, Pardo, etc couldnt have atleast had a stint in Europe during their prime...I mean even DeNigris got a shot in Europe and he sucks, hes having a hard time starting for a Mexican team.Or Paraguayan Cardozo who was tearing up Mexico and getting numerous offers from Europe but preferred to stay because he was getting like 4 mill a season...another example: our star goalie Oswaldo had calls from Europe as well as Santos of Brasil, he was willing to go and open doors for Mexican goalies to play in foreign places (there hasnt been a Mexican goalie thats played in Europe).Guess why he stayed?He's one of the TOP 5 best paid goalies in the world and the what he was being offered was nothing compared to what he was making.Talent has been there, the money just hasnt.Dont worry about it though, our U-17 WC champs will take care of it...Dos Santos is a sure future star, Vela also has a chance at becoming one, and about 8 others from that team have signed with European teams.
Sanchez has shut his mouth after he hit rock bottom with Pumas...Lavolpe is safe.
ricoo9
12-14-2005, 02:08 AM
mexico is in the world cup and seeded and u guys just want to talk shit bout how they suck lol .............u dont know shit bout futbol i mean soccer if u think mexico sucks by the way ur mom likes it dirty n the bed :sad: :ronaldo: :lol:
hahahahahaha :lol: :lol: i think ur the one that doesnt know crap about football, u dirty mexican, go suck a nut puto
RojINeGrO5051
12-14-2005, 02:13 AM
hahaha ur just stupid dont worry ul die soon :)
ricoo9
12-14-2005, 02:18 AM
Would u guys cut the crap about them being offered to qualify with Conmebol and chickening out, that is complete BS...never happened.Besides that is just plain stupid, if u take just Mexico then the Concacaf becomes that much more pathetic.Join all of the Americas and give them 8 or 9 spots.
Qualifying is easy...but check the groups they were assigned prior to this easy one that they got.Not so easy eh?Yet they consistently make it to the 2nd round, not a huge deal but still a good accomplishment that not many teams can claim.It also makes them legit and proves that they arent just a below-average team playing in a crap region, cause if that was the case they wouldnt make it to the 2nd rd so consistantly.
Mexicans dont produce as much talent as south american countries like Arg, Bra, and Uru...so they pay big bucks to the players that do have the capability of playing in Europe.Either that or they just get overlooked cause theyre not Argentinian or Brasilian.You cant honestly tell me that players like Arellano, Palencia, Suarez, Carmona, Hermosillo, Aspe, Pardo, etc couldnt have atleast had a stint in Europe during their prime...I mean even DeNigris got a shot in Europe and he sucks, hes having a hard time starting for a Mexican team.Or Paraguayan Cardozo who was tearing up Mexico and getting numerous offers from Europe but preferred to stay because he was getting like 4 mill a season...another example: our star goalie Oswaldo had calls from Europe as well as Santos of Brasil, he was willing to go and open doors for Mexican goalies to play in foreign places (there hasnt been a Mexican goalie thats played in Europe).Guess why he stayed?He's one of the TOP 5 best paid goalies in the world and the what he was being offered was nothing compared to what he was making.Talent has been there, the money just hasnt.Dont worry about it though, our U-17 WC champs will take care of it...Dos Santos is a sure future star, Vela also has a chance at becoming one, and about 8 others from that team have signed with European teams.
Sanchez has shut his mouth after he hit rock bottom with Pumas...Lavolpe is safe.
Mexico doesnt produce any players that play in europe cuz they suck, hermosillo, palencia pls they wouldnt of done crap in europe, luis hernandez played in boca for like 3 months before they kicked his ass out for suckin, if ur best players like hernandez couldnt make it in a world class team like boca what makes u think that the others would of done good in europe? what about blanco? didnt he get fired too for sucking? how long did he play? :worried: and please if ur U-17 players become stars then so will the african teams that won that tournament previously and so will the asian players etc. Mexico won U-17 no big deal
RojINeGrO5051
12-14-2005, 02:28 AM
Mexico doesnt produce any players that play in europe cuz they suck, hermosillo, palencia pls they wouldnt of done crap in europe, luis hernandez played in boca for like 3 months before they kicked his ass out for suckin, if ur best players like hernandez couldnt make it in a world class team like boca what makes u think that the others would of done good in europe? what about blanco? didnt he get fired too for sucking? how long did he play? :worried: and please if ur U-17 players become stars then so will the african teams that won that tournament previously and so will the asian players etc. Mexico won U-17 no big deal
ur just a spaghetti slurping inca :D slurp slurp bitch
PunkguyEG
12-14-2005, 02:35 AM
:worried:
RojINeGrO5051
12-14-2005, 02:36 AM
chalupas r better than spaghetti ...............but thats MY opinion
ricoo9
12-14-2005, 02:38 AM
ur just a spaghetti slurping inca :D slurp slurp bitch
i rather eat spaghetti than suck on balls biatch :ronaldo:
RojINeGrO5051
12-14-2005, 02:38 AM
wtf dont u guineas eat spaghetti with meatBalls ....man homey i dont know wat ur thinking
slurp slurp :ronaldo:
ricoo9
12-14-2005, 02:41 AM
dude i'm not gonna argue with a mexican loser like u , go learn more about the sport and then come talk to me ;)
RojINeGrO5051
12-14-2005, 02:43 AM
que paso no llores sounds like somebody doesnt like the taste of there own medicine ;)
ricoo9
12-14-2005, 02:48 AM
que paso no llores sounds like somebody doesnt like the taste of there own medicine ;)
porke no intentas en defender a tu ekipo envez de star hablando wevadas...o eske no podes? :D
RojINeGrO5051
12-14-2005, 02:49 AM
wat is ther to defend that they dont suck????
cmon homie i know ur not that dumb
ricoo9
12-14-2005, 02:52 AM
wat is ther to defend that they dont suck????
cmon homie i know ur not that dumb
thats what i thought :boo:
RojINeGrO5051
12-14-2005, 02:54 AM
?????yeah thats right stay quiet
pinche leva= :yell:
ricoo9
12-14-2005, 03:07 AM
?????yeah thats right stay quiet
pinche leva= :yell:
w/e dude, ur wasting my time loser :rolleyes: mexico sux
RojINeGrO5051
12-14-2005, 03:09 AM
:ronaldo: :ronaldo: :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:evil: u envy us
dcunited1
12-14-2005, 05:08 AM
Mexico Keep This For Your Records: Under Arena: Us Is 6-4-1 Vs Mexico; 6 Wins Were By Shut Out! And Us Has A Differential Goal Lead Of 13-6; Mexico Does S------------------k!!! And Got A Seed?
I Hope Portugal Wips You Like A Baby!!!!!!!!!smack Smack;;;
PunkguyEG
12-14-2005, 05:29 AM
Mexico Keep This For Your Records: Under Arena: Us Is 6-4-1 Vs Mexico; 6 Wins Were By Shut Out! And Us Has A Differential Goal Lead Of 13-6; Mexico Does S------------------k!!! And Got A Seed?
I Hope Portugal Wips You Like A Baby!!!!!!!!!smack Smack;;;
oh dont worry, Angola and iran will have their turn with mexico too ;)
chaymin
12-14-2005, 07:07 AM
I agree that Mexico should not have been seeded. But Mexico had no control over that decision. What did you want them to do? Decline?
The US has gotten better, I'll admit that. I think Mexico has a better team but for some reason they break down mentally against the US. There are also some other things I don't agree with the Mexican Soccer League. They allow too many foreign players on their teams and Mexican born players are set aside (Although they are reducing the number of foreign players for next season).
You should be happy that a CONCACAF team is being seeded. Who knows, maybe next time it will be the US...
I'm a fan of the Mexican national team. It's what I grew up with and part of my heritage. If the roles were switched, I would not hate on the US... I would be happy for them... But that's just me. I don't go around crying and complaining about how my team is better.
chaymin
12-14-2005, 07:12 AM
Mexico Keep This For Your Records: Under Arena: Us Is 6-4-1 Vs Mexico; 6 Wins Were By Shut Out! And Us Has A Differential Goal Lead Of 13-6; Mexico Does S------------------k!!! And Got A Seed?
I Hope Portugal Wips You Like A Baby!!!!!!!!!smack Smack;;;
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Mexico vs. USA
GP W T L GF GA
51 30 10 11 116 53
Who's the b!tch now?
ricoo9
12-14-2005, 07:41 AM
I agree that Mexico should not have been seeded. But Mexico had no control over that decision. What did you want them to do? Decline?
The US has gotten better, I'll admit that. I think Mexico has a better team but for some reason they break down mentally against the US. There are also some other things I don't agree with the Mexican Soccer League. They allow too many foreign players on their teams and Mexican born players are set aside (Although they are reducing the number of foreign players for next season).
You should be happy that a CONCACAF team is being seeded. Who knows, maybe next time it will be the US...
I'm a fan of the Mexican national team. It's what I grew up with and part of my heritage. If the roles were switched, I would not hate on the US... I would be happy for them... But that's just me. I don't go around crying and complaining about how my team is better.
I think u need to read most of this thread, it will explain everything for u, nobody is hating on mexico, if mexicans were more like u then i doubt anybody would be "hating" on them, but they act like their so superior having won nothing. Read the Thread
dcunited1
12-14-2005, 11:55 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Mexico vs. USA
GP W T L GF GA
51 30 10 11 116 53
Who's the b!tch now?
:yo: since the year 1990 US is 9-7-7AGAINST MEXICO INCL 6 SHUTOUTS!
WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE FIGURES? LOL
and since 2000 the US is 7-1-1; sounds to me it just keeps getting worse as the years go on!
ricoo9
12-14-2005, 07:21 PM
:yo: since the year 1990 US is 9-7-7AGAINST MEXICO INCL 6 SHUTOUTS!
WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE FIGURES? LOL
and since 2000 the US is 7-1-1; sounds to me it just keeps getting worse as the years go on!
yeah that guy put some fake info on his post but the truth is mexico has only won once in 5 years. :lol:
chaymin
12-14-2005, 08:56 PM
yeah that guy put some fake info on his post but the truth is mexico has only won once in 5 years. :lol:
Nope. Those are the stats between Mexico and the US.
chaymin
12-14-2005, 08:57 PM
http://www.mundosoccer.com/despvar.asp?gr=selnacional&mon=sel_nacional.html&url=selnacional/historia.html
Here's where I got that stat.
unam_mx
12-15-2005, 12:15 AM
Mexico doesnt produce any players that play in europe cuz they suck, hermosillo, palencia pls they wouldnt of done crap in europe, luis hernandez played in boca for like 3 months before they kicked his ass out for suckin, if ur best players like hernandez couldnt make it in a world class team like boca what makes u think that the others would of done good in europe? what about blanco? didnt he get fired too for sucking? how long did he play? :worried: and please if ur U-17 players become stars then so will the african teams that won that tournament previously and so will the asian players etc. Mexico won U-17 no big deal
Stars?I dont think so, the only real one theyve produced is Hugo Sanchez...but quality players with the capability of playing in Europe?Yes.DeNigris had his stint and he sucks, Torrado is pretty good but nothing special and he lasted several years in Europe...if those guys could make it then trust me much more talented players like Arellano, Palencia, Suarez, Carmona, Aspe, Pardo, etc. couldve atleast been respectable.Dude the goalie from Panama got a contract in Europe because of what he did in the Copa de Oro where he helped Panama reach the finals, are u telling me that he is in Europe because he is better then Oswaldo?Hell no. It's because of economical reason.Alot of these players from smaller countries/economies jump at the first contact they get from Europe because the pay in their countries isnt as good as Mexico's...Mexicans dont do that.After the Confed Cup players like Osorio, Salcido, Galindo, Oswaldo, and Borgetti all got contacted by European clubs with only Borgetti accepting.Most likely because with a good long career under his belt he is already set financially, now he wants to test himself in Europe.The other guys, arent willing to sacrifice.Again, the talent is there but the money isnt (for a star yes, but for solid role players which most of these guys would be, its not as much as it is in Mexico where they considered stars).
About previous players playing elsewhere...Hernandez was good but not the best that Mexico had to offer, he got alot of hype because of what he did in France 98' but he was made out to be better then he was.Blanco, I think couldve done well but that serious knee injury in the 02' qualifiers screwed him up real bad (there's a disadvantage of playing with crappy countries who play real dirty)...although still a great players he's never been as good as he was prior to that injury.Besides his arrogance and temper got the best of him, he wanted to start right away perhaps if he wouldve been patient he wouldve eventually gotten more playing time.Instead he decided to comeback to Mexico.
Regarding the U-17 players, Im very aware that not all will be successful pros...hell I know that some might not even become pros but there are also several that have a whole bunch of potential.Especially where Mexico has been lacking talent, forwards up front.If u dont think that Dos Santos is a sure future-star then u are fooling urself...Vela looks like he might be special as well and u cant overlook Ever Guzman who had already made his debut in Mexico's first division before participating in the U-17 WC.Besides u cant overlook how dominant they were, they didnt just barely or luckily win the the WC...they looked like men among boys even against the Brasilians.
chaymin
12-15-2005, 12:22 AM
Well put unam_mx
:clap2:
ricoo9
12-15-2005, 12:33 AM
Stars?I dont think so, the only real one theyve produced is Hugo Sanchez...but quality players with the capability of playing in Europe?Yes.DeNigris had his stint and he sucks, Torrado is pretty good but nothing special and he lasted several years in Europe...if those guys could make it then trust me much more talented players like Arellano, Palencia, Suarez, Carmona, Aspe, Pardo, etc. couldve atleast been respectable.Dude the goalie from Panama got a contract in Europe because of what he did in the Copa de Oro where he helped Panama reach the finals, are u telling me that he is in Europe because he is better then Oswaldo?Hell no. It's because of economical reason.Alot of these players from smaller countries/economies jump at the first contact they get from Europe because the pay in their countries isnt as good as Mexico's...Mexicans dont do that.After the Confed Cup players like Osorio, Salcido, Galindo, Oswaldo, and Borgetti all got contacted by European clubs with only Borgetti accepting.Most likely because with a good long career under his belt he is already set financially, now he wants to test himself in Europe.The other guys, arent willing to sacrifice.Again, the talent is there but the money isnt (for a star yes, but for solid role players which most of these guys would be, its not as much as it is in Mexico where they considered stars).
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w/e man, U telling me the Europeans dont pay big bucks?? wtf? mostly everybody starts off small, even ronaldo played in PSV before getting sold to Barca, i'm sure he wasnt getting paid as much as he is now, but that is just a risk that great professional football stars take for the good of the game, fame, money etc. If they are that good they would most likely get resigned or be sold to bigger teams for $$big bucks. Just look at Paolo Guerrero, he started off in Bayern "B" and he was the top goal scorer for them so they moved him up to the "A" team and re-signed him with a top contract. If mexicans were that good then they wouldnt be so "insecure" about their skill and move to a european team where they would be makin more money and more fame but the i guess the quality of the mexican players doesnt allow this, that is why they will be in mexican league forever. so the fact is that the mexican players can t cut it on a european team!!
ricoo9
12-15-2005, 12:54 AM
Nope. Those are the stats between Mexico and the US.
USA (USA) 2:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
FIFA WC 2006 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF Zone COLUMBUS USA - 03.09.2005
Mexico (MEX) 2:1 (2:0) USA (USA)
FIFA WC 2006 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF Zone MEXICO CITY MEXICO - 27.03.2005
USA (USA) 1:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2004 DALLAS USA - 28.04.2004
USA (USA) 0:0 Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2003 HOUSTON USA - 08.05.2003
Mexico (MEX) 0:2 (0:1) USA (USA)
2002 FIFA World Cup Korea/Japan (TM) JEONJU KOREA REPUBLIC - 17.06.2002
USA (USA) 1:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2002 DENVER USA - 03.04.2002
Mexico (MEX) 1:0 (1:0) USA (USA)
FIFA WC 2002 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF MEXICO CITY MEXICO - 01.07.2001
USA (USA) 2:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
FIFA WC 2002 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF COLUMBUS USA - 28.02.2001
USA (USA) 2:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2000 LOS ANGELES USA - 25.10.2000
USA (USA) 3:0 (1:0) Mexico (MEX)
Those r the stats from the year 2000 to 2005
All this Info i got from the Official FIFA website
USA winning 7, tying 1 and losing 2
in 5 years
Orgulho Judeu
12-15-2005, 01:06 AM
Mexico is cool, why does the USA hate everyone...go nome fukkas quit hating
dcunited1
12-15-2005, 01:10 AM
:) :) :) :lol: THANK-YOU RICO: i knew the record but i couldn't find the scores or dates! that's cool indeed. Hey i don't want to get people ticked off at all really i mean it; but MEXICO is starting to be the sparting or should i say plainly the practice team for the US. Just someone that the US can just take their fustration out on; I;M sorry but that;s what it looks like;
dcunited1
12-15-2005, 01:17 AM
Mexico is cool, why does the USA hate everyone...go nome fukkas quit hating :worried:
dude why are you saying that? i'm just putting out my point of view! and the plain fact with it! i'm not trying to hurt anyone, or make fun of their teams or anything like that; And as for the USA ! usa is the mother country of the world! there isn't anybody we don't take care about ; we care about everybody. the last thing is hate! so please don't say that because that is simply not true. BACK TO SOCCER!
Panathinaikos2
12-15-2005, 01:31 AM
usa is the mother country of the world!Yea and i'm sure mothers usualy kill hundredths of strangers a day :rolleyes:
RojINeGrO5051
12-15-2005, 01:47 AM
Yea and i'm sure mothers usualy kill hundredths of strangers a day :rolleyes:
not only that ther fans think ther peles of "soccer"
Panathinaikos2
12-15-2005, 01:51 AM
not only that ther fans think ther peles of "soccer"They can think what they want as long as they have some facts to why they think they are "Peles" of football.
ricoo9
12-15-2005, 02:19 AM
When did united statians say they were peles of football?? :boink:
dcunited1
12-15-2005, 02:24 AM
trust me there won't be no answer on that one neither! some people talk without thinking; very common thing now a days!
Panathinaikos2
12-15-2005, 06:32 AM
trust me there won't be no answer on that one neither! some people talk without thinking; very common thing now a days!Yea 85 percent of those people are Americans :D
PunkguyEG
12-15-2005, 07:19 AM
I was just watching the Fox soccer news. They were talking about la copa suramericana and the 2nd final in la bombonera argentina. Some pumas young defender was being interviewed and he was saying he never thought he would be playing against boca and marking palermo. He said he feels confident they are going to win in la bombonera and that he is "currently equal or better than palermo." (at the same time showing this attitude like if it was nothing).
:faint2: I was just like Incredible!!!. I don't know what his name is, but that was really arrogant and overconfident. These people have no respect for their opponents. He couldve said he feels confident and that their going to win or whatever, but saying he is individually better than this other guy is just inappropriate. I am sorry if you mexicans think that is alright, but i don't see any other teams talking that much garbage all the time, but just you. Same thing with the National team.
Besides, It is not like their playing against morelia, los chivos, or some other sorry team from their country. It is an international competition that deserves more respect.
That is what I hate about people, in general, Not just Mexicans but for some reason it is always the same. Maybe that is a custom in Mexico, but I don't see other teams talking that much garbage, especially when it is a international competition. In south America everybody respects each other, especially internationally.
mawin312
12-15-2005, 07:28 AM
Nope thats not a custom in Mexico. You're just tring to make Mexico look bad. Thats why you posted the same thing in 11 different threads :boo:
ricoo9
12-15-2005, 09:31 AM
Nope thats not a custom in Mexico. You're just tring to make Mexico look bad. Thats why you posted the same thing in 11 different threads :boo:
the truth is what is making mexico look bad, not anyone else
javcar5
12-15-2005, 07:57 PM
Are you guys really that ignorant ? Last time I checked saying you are better than another player is part of the game. The mexican player is just putting a cross on his back saying that against Palermo. Its just motivation for Palermo to sack three headers in the back of the net against UNAM, because we all know thats all he can do ! Mexicans thinking they are better than others is just the mentality they have to succeed. We all know they are not the Fastest, Skillfull, Powerful team in the world but with them thinking they are it motivates them to play good football. Everyone all over the forums say that they are overrated and undeserving of a seed, imagine if they did not have motivation they would be as good as T&T, Bahrain, and other teams. North Americans should be happy that Mexico is in the region, because the CONCACAF is already the laughingstock of Qualifying, if it wasn't for Mexico the US would be the CONCACAF headliner and we all know what the World would think of that :lol:
To say that Mexico disrespects everyone and they are rude and play dirty, everything that the Posts say all over the Forum, is interesting. You don't really talk about the more serious problems in World Soccer Such as the Racism in Italy, undercover clubs that still respect the Nazi's, the treatment of african americans in leagues all over Europe and many other more serious problems. I think this is a bigger problem than saying you are better than another player.
Advice: Think outside of the bubble instead of inside and under the rock :)
Something Americans have a hard time doing :sad:
ricoo9
12-15-2005, 09:00 PM
Are you guys really that ignorant ? Last time I checked saying you are better than another player is part of the game. The mexican player is just putting a cross on his back saying that against Palermo. Its just motivation for Palermo to sack three headers in the back of the net against UNAM, because we all know thats all he can do ! Mexicans thinking they are better than others is just the mentality they have to succeed. We all know they are not the Fastest, Skillfull, Powerful team in the world but with them thinking they are it motivates them to play good football. Everyone all over the forums say that they are overrated and undeserving of a seed, imagine if they did not have motivation they would be as good as T&T, Bahrain, and other teams. North Americans should be happy that Mexico is in the region, because the CONCACAF is already the laughingstock of Qualifying, if it wasn't for Mexico the US would be the CONCACAF headliner and we all know what the World would think of that :lol:
To say that Mexico disrespects everyone and they are rude and play dirty, everything that the Posts say all over the Forum, is interesting. You don't really talk about the more serious problems in World Soccer Such as the Racism in Italy, undercover clubs that still respect the Nazi's, the treatment of african americans in leagues all over Europe and many other more serious problems. I think this is a bigger problem than saying you are better than another player.
Advice: Think outside of the bubble instead of inside and under the rock :)
Something Americans have a hard time doing :sad:
u make very good points, but the name on this forum is mexico sux so thats why we r giving our reasons. The thing is that until we started posting in these threads all the mexicans thought they were better than everyone having won nothing, they havent even proved to be a 3rd place team in america like they were saying, so all we did was bring them back to reality :smoking:
RojINeGrO5051
12-15-2005, 09:17 PM
and ur truly a retarded clown if u think mexico sucks :sad:
ricoo9
12-15-2005, 09:46 PM
and ur truly a retarded clown if u think mexico sucks :sad:
alright man, mexico is the best!!! wooo!!! the WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!!
YEAH!!!! :lol: wINNERS OF THE "GOLD CUP" WOOOHH!!! :lol: THE BEST THERE IS !!!!
RojINeGrO5051
12-15-2005, 11:00 PM
alright man, mexico is the best!!! wooo!!! the WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!!
YEAH!!!! :lol: wINNERS OF THE "GOLD CUP" WOOOHH!!! :lol: THE BEST THERE IS !!!!
when did i say that :dance: dont hate me cause im brown
Armand
12-15-2005, 11:42 PM
LOL pretty interesting thread O.K Mexico is not third in the world as somebody claimed as a Mexican soccer fan I am proud of the team but it is not third in the world. As for them beign seeded it was definately a plus. Important to note that Mexico does not rule FIFA and they just happened to have enough points. I have noticed a lot of resentment from U.S fans and U.S and general but the way FIFA seeded the teams is by past performance and world ran. To adress U.S people I hope you have not forgot that the U.S FINISHED DEAD LAST IN 1998 in France thats why you werent seeded it doesn't matter how much you have improved you still finished last in 1998 and nothing can change that sorry. As for people saying CONCACAF is crap it truly is there is only one team that has played consistently in the past world cups and that is Mexico sure the U.S made it to the quarter finals in 2002 but lets not forget the where dead last in 98. For the people in the U.S that want Mexico to qualify with the south americans o.k. Lets also have the United States come on over too in fact there should just be 8 spots for North America and South America this would be a nightmare for Mexico I agree but would be an even greater nightmare for the United States. It seems to me that when the U.S doesn't get something they whine and cry not just soccer anything. As for Mexico in germany everybody here seems to be in agreement that they wont do good thats o.k everybody is entlitled to their respective opinion. But the U.S team is severely overhyped I will be surprised if the get past the first round sure they have a tough group but all their fans claim they deserved to be seeded now they draw a tough group more crying from them. Almost everybody who truly knows soccer in the U.S even soccer analysts on ESPN agree the U.S team is overhyped. So yes you beat Mexico here in the U.S in Ohio you also handed out free tickets so fans would actually show up LOL. And since most U.S fans claims mexico sucks you really didn't accomplish nothing by your own logic.
stuglue
12-15-2005, 11:49 PM
The reason why people outside the US hate them when it comes to football is because they have no tradition in the game,no real love or passion for the sport,everything is done in a forced,manufactured attempt to boost soccer's appeal.That is why their is such resentment because in countries like Argentina,Brazil,England,Germany,Spain,Italy it is part of life,it is ingrained in society.The US have a good NT and the people don't even know it.
Mexico does NOT suck... They ain't on the same level of Brazil and Argentina, but they've a very good team.
unam_mx
12-16-2005, 12:16 AM
w/e man, U telling me the Europeans dont pay big bucks?? wtf? mostly everybody starts off small, even ronaldo played in PSV before getting sold to Barca, i'm sure he wasnt getting paid as much as he is now, but that is just a risk that great professional football stars take for the good of the game, fame, money etc. If they are that good they would most likely get resigned or be sold to bigger teams for $$big bucks. Just look at Paolo Guerrero, he started off in Bayern "B" and he was the top goal scorer for them so they moved him up to the "A" team and re-signed him with a top contract. If mexicans were that good then they wouldnt be so "insecure" about their skill and move to a european team where they would be makin more money and more fame but the i guess the quality of the mexican players doesnt allow this, that is why they will be in mexican league forever. so the fact is that the mexican players can t cut it on a european team!!
Yes, European teams dish out big bucks...but they do so to the stars.Something pretty much all Mexicans wouldnt be in Europe, they would be solid role players nothing more.And alot of these guys dont get the attention of European clubs early on, giving them a chance to play with a smaller club.Its mostly when theyre just about in their prime, when they should be seeing the big pay-day in Mexico.There are very few exceptions, but other then that most of them get overlooked...mostly because Mexico doesnt have the history of producing stars, but also for the simple fact that they are Mexican rather then Brasilian or Argentinian.I can assure u that young promising Andres Guardado wouldve already gotten an offer from a small European team if he was Brasilian or Argentinian rather then Mexican.
Paulo Guerrero u say?Again, u cant compare the economy of Peru to that of Mexico...these guys from small countries jump at the first contact from Europeans, hell theyll jump at the first contact from Mexico.Mexicans arent in the same situation.I want u to seriously tell me that the Panama goalie is in Europe because he's better then Oswaldo...u cant.
Again, if a peace of crap like DeNigris can have a stint...then some of these guys are more then capable of doing so as well.
unam_mx
12-16-2005, 12:23 AM
LOL pretty interesting thread O.K Mexico is not third in the world as somebody claimed as a Mexican soccer fan I am proud of the team but it is not third in the world.
Noone has said they are third in the world, but rather third in the Americas (North America & South America)...something which isnt by any means unreasonable although these haters seem to think it is the most ridiculous thing in the world to say.
dcunited1
12-16-2005, 12:57 AM
Allright; Iwill tell you again 1st ; MEXICO DOES SUCK! that's all there is to it! live with it! realize it! 2nd i explained to some of you idiots out there US fans are not found in immigrant cities!!! US fans are in central USA 80% of them; specially ohio; washington state, and so on! remember just OHIO is bigger than most countries in europe;we don't need every single state to be a US fan; can you dig it or not!!! when you say US has no fans f i guess you must not live in an all american town; Let me tell you something about america , America is a proud nation, any sport that has the USA NAME on it you can be sure that all americans are with this country! remember the song ( born in the USA) Unfortunatly the one who would say we have no fans is probably watching Telemundo TV or A News brodcast from LA OR NY. WE HAVE FOX SPORTS WORLD, 24 7 AND MLS PACKAGE! GOL TV AND ESPN HOW MANY COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD HAVE SOCCER 24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK??????? I COULD WATCH SOCCER ANYTIME I WANT IN THE USA!!!!!ISN'T THAT ENOUGH??????????
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 01:08 AM
Again, if a peace of crap like DeNigris can have a stint...then some of these guys are more then capable of doing so as well.
exactly, but they wouldnt be stars.... which is my point. If they r solid or great like Oswaldo or Blanco they should be able to get big bucks, but the truth is they probably wounldnt cut it in important teams cuz just like denigris they r crap. btw what team did that panama goalie get sold to?
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 01:18 AM
Allright; Iwill tell you again 1st ; MEXICO DOES SUCK! that's all there is to it! live with it! realize it! 2nd i explained to some of you idiots out there US fans are not found in immigrant cities!!! US fans are in central USA 80% of them; specially ohio; washington state, and so on! remember just OHIO is bigger than most countries in europe;we don't need every single state to be a US fan; can you dig it or not!!! when you say US has no fans f i guess you must not live in an all american town; Let me tell you something about america , America is a proud nation, any sport that has the USA NAME on it you can be sure that all americans are with this country! remember the song ( born in the USA) Unfortunatly the one who would say we have no fans is probably watching Telemundo TV or A News brodcast from LA OR NY. WE HAVE FOX SPORTS WORLD, 24 7 AND MLS PACKAGE! GOL TV AND ESPN HOW MANY COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD HAVE SOCCER 24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK??????? I COULD WATCH SOCCER ANYTIME I WANT IN THE USA!!!!!ISN'T THAT ENOUGH??????????
only United Statians know that lol. Everybody else that is watching telemundo thinks there r no real soccer fans here but i've seen some mls games from DC and chicago and those seemed like pretty decent fans, they wore the teams jerseys, caps ,etc if they didnt give a crap about soccer they wouldnt buy any of that stuff or buy season tickets
p.s. Mexico sux :lol:
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 02:28 AM
talk about being smart dont even talk about fans if the US has to go all the way to ohio to get some pretty decent fans and thats an international game I have never seen a game where there has been more than 40,000 fans and tell me im wrong mexico plays in US they loose the US plays in mexico they loose. yeah the mls is getting better but when have u seen teams from the mls play in la libertadores or copa suda americana and beat big teams like corinthias, velez or any other team like pumas is doing. i know alot of people think mexico shouldnt of been seeded Shit im a mexican fan and i was surprised but even the coach from the US said mexico deserved it the only dumbass that opened his mouth was donovan but what the hell does it look like mexico said they wanted to be seeded and their name popped out.
dcunited1
12-16-2005, 02:29 AM
[QUOTE=ricoo9]only United Statians know that lol. Everybody else that is watching telemundo thinks there r no real soccer fans here but i've seen some mls games from DC and chicago and those seemed like pretty decent fans, they wore the teams jerseys, caps ,etc if they didnt give a crap about soccer they wouldnt buy any of that stuff or buy season tickets :star:
:star: :star:
true!! i watch so much soccer on TV in this country that my wives keep leaving me because they say they feel like they are watching soccer even when they sleep!!!! did you ever see a country that has so much soccer on TV like the US? What else do they want? as for the fans? most country's in the world only pack a stadium when it's a game between the first 5 teams in division 1. but if you take MEXICO WHICH S------------S and you wtch a game between
EXAMPLE: ATLANTE AND SAN LUIS WHICH ARE PREMIER LEAGUE TEAMS lucky if they get 1000 fans; the same goes for other countries in the world; ENGLAND is one of the very few that actually holds a very good crowd in all games; Now the MLS has an average of almost 20,000 fans per game in all games if you ask me that is a pretty good attendance allready! it will get alot better!!! no doubt. Specially now that there is 2 more teams coming on! Ithink philly and houston; OH BY THE WAY Miami fusion DIDN'T MAKE IT WHY??? Immigrant city!!!!!LOL; SEE IT'S CLEAR AS DAY! that's why i say most immigrants don't know anything about USSOCCER OR THE MLS PERIOD. SAD BUT TRUE. OH! by the way how's Mexican team Chivas USA doing???lol they really s--------------------------------------------------k
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 02:34 AM
i would give a shit about how chivas usa is doing if they had decent players all their players are from youth teams and "b" teams from mexico and palencia is washed up
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 02:38 AM
talk about being smart dont even talk about fans if the US has to go all the way to ohio to get some pretty decent fans and thats an international game I have never seen a game where there has been more than 40,000 fans and tell me im wrong mexico plays in US they loose the US plays in mexico they loose. yeah the mls is getting better but when have u seen teams from the mls play in la libertadores or copa suda americana and beat big teams like corinthias, velez or any other team like pumas is doing. i know alot of people think mexico shouldnt of been seeded Shit im a mexican fan and i was surprised but even the coach from the US said mexico deserved it the only dumbass that opened his mouth was donovan but what the hell does it look like mexico said they wanted to be seeded and their name popped out.
WTF? MLS has never been invited to libertadores, they r a new league and the truth is this is the first year they played in the sudamericana. THis will be good for them in order to gain experience againsts international clubs but mexico has been playin libertadores for a while now, atleast 7 years .
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 02:39 AM
the only team chivas usa beat was colubus krew isnt that more Embarrassing
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 02:42 AM
mexico hasnt been playing libertadores in 7 year????????? are you from another world do you watch fox sport chivass made it to semifinals this year and won best goal of la libertadores
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 02:53 AM
[QUOTE=ricoo9]only United Statians know that lol. Everybody else that is watching telemundo thinks there r no real soccer fans here but i've seen some mls games from DC and chicago and those seemed like pretty decent fans, they wore the teams jerseys, caps ,etc if they didnt give a crap about soccer they wouldnt buy any of that stuff or buy season tickets :star:
:star: :star:
true!! i watch so much soccer on TV in this country that my wives keep leaving me because they say they feel like they are watching soccer even when they sleep!!!! did you ever see a country that has so much soccer on TV like the US? What else do they want? as for the fans? most country's in the world only pack a stadium when it's a game between the first 5 teams in division 1. but if you take MEXICO WHICH S------------S and you wtch a game between
EXAMPLE: ATLANTE AND SAN LUIS WHICH ARE PREMIER LEAGUE TEAMS lucky if they get 1000 fans; the same goes for other countries in the world; ENGLAND is one of the very few that actually holds a very good crowd in all games; Now the MLS has an average of almost 20,000 fans per game in all games if you ask me that is a pretty good attendance allready! it will get alot better!!! no doubt. Specially now that there is 2 more teams coming on! Ithink philly and houston; OH BY THE WAY Miami fusion DIDN'T MAKE IT WHY??? Immigrant city!!!!!LOL; SEE IT'S CLEAR AS DAY! that's why i say most immigrants don't know anything about USSOCCER OR THE MLS PERIOD. SAD BUT TRUE. OH! by the way how's Mexican team Chivas USA doing???lol they really s--------------------------------------------------k
well the reason immigrants dont care about us soccer is for that reason, their not from here so they rather watch soccer from their country or big leagues like EPL, Calio, bundesliga. thats why the fusion didnt make it here even though for US i thought they had some decent players. u r right only the big teams in mexico averge a large crowd but that is the main sport there, when it becomes a big sport here they will avrge the same, even in other countries i have noticed only big teams avrge large crowds
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 03:01 AM
soccer has been around in the US for along time but they have other sports too like baseball, basketball, and football
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:04 AM
mexico hasnt been playing libertadores in 7 year????????? are you from another world do you watch fox sport chivass made it to semifinals this year and won best goal of la libertadores
Te lo voy a decir en castellano para ke me entiendas, dije ke mexico ha estado jugando por varios años esta copa mientras ke mls nunca lo han invitado just porke es una nueva liga y recien este año jugo por primera vez la sudamericana y ojala pronto los inviten a la libertadores anque lo dudo
RojINeGrO5051
12-16-2005, 03:09 AM
mexico is 3rd n americas
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:09 AM
soccer has been around in the US for along time but they have other sports too like baseball, basketball, and football
yeah and all those sports are way more popular here compared to soccer, soccer is just started to grow here while these other sports have been here for a long time
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 03:14 AM
ricoo why do you hate on mexican teams so much no stupid answers serious shit because i dont see peru doing better than mexico or your a team hopper
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:18 AM
ricoo why do you hate on mexican teams so much no stupid answers serious shit because i dont see peru doing better than mexico or your a team hopper
I'll suport any team man, especially from latin america, maybe if u guys didnt talk so much crap i would probably even support mexico. I like rooting for the underdogs
RojINeGrO5051
12-16-2005, 03:20 AM
I'll suport any team man, especially from latin america, maybe if u guys didnt talk so much crap i would probably even support mexico. I like rooting for the underdogs
dont even bother man he just hates us with the passion ..... :lol: :ronaldo: :D
like i said a thick headed retarded clown
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:21 AM
dont even bother man he just hates us with the passion ..... :lol: :ronaldo: :D
like i said a thick headed retarded clown
yo daddy bitch
RojINeGrO5051
12-16-2005, 03:23 AM
payaso
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 03:24 AM
if u wouldnt talk so much crap about mexico then maybe mexicans would not so much crap about u do u see a topic USA sucks no
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:25 AM
finocchio
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 03:25 AM
ricoo ur not a real soccer fan ur a team hopper admitted
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:27 AM
ricoo ur not a real soccer fan ur a team hopper admitted
wtf? do u even know what teams i support?
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 03:31 AM
u said"do u even know what teams i support?" thats being a team hopper u only go for one team and one team only what kind of poser are you im gona start going for barcelona and real madrid jajajajajajaj
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:34 AM
u said"do u even know what teams i support?" thats being a team hopper u only go for one team and one team only what kind of poser are you im gona start going for barcelona and real madrid jajajajajajaj
i guess u havent read earlier posts, I was born here but my parents r italian and peruvian, thats why i know so much from both. i suggest u start readin my posts more. So i can go for either 3 if i feel like it
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:36 AM
btw mexico sux :ronaldo:
RojINeGrO5051
12-16-2005, 03:37 AM
:ronaldo: mexico will always be here and u cant do nuthin bout it :lol:
:sad: slurp slurp
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 03:38 AM
mexico sucks ur moms p$ssy every day
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 03:39 AM
dont even start man
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:39 AM
:ronaldo: mexico will always be here and u cant do nuthin bout it :lol:
:sad: slurp slurp
panocha??? wtf sorry man i dont speak aztec ;)
RojINeGrO5051
12-16-2005, 03:41 AM
panocha??? wtf sorry man i dont speak aztec ;)
sorry i cant understand the retarded clown language
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:41 AM
mexico sucks ur moms p$ssy every day
ur granddad bitch
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 03:42 AM
what i dont understand ricoo i dont speak zerote
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:43 AM
what i dont understand ricoo i dont speak zerote
dude i dont speak mayan neither :lol:
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 03:44 AM
"ur granddad bitch" nice comeback
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 03:45 AM
dude now its dude ur such a poser if you dont speak mayan ask ur mom i thought her some
RojINeGrO5051
12-16-2005, 03:45 AM
to my haters and retarded payasos
Mexicanos, al grito de guerra
El acero aprestad y el bridón,
Y retiemble en sus centros la tierra
Al sonoro rugir del cañón.
Y retiemble en sus centros la tierra
Al sonoro rugir del cañón.
Ciña ¡oh Patria! tus sienes de oliva
De la paz el arcángel divino,
Que en el cielo tu eterno destino,
Por el dedo de Dios se escribió;
Mas si osare un extraño enemigo,
Profanar con su planta tu suelo,
Piensa ¡oh Patria querida! que el cielo
Un soldado en cada hijo te dio,
Un soldado en cada hijo te dio.
Guerra, guerra sin tregua al que intente
De la patria manchar los blasones!
Guerra, guerra! Los patrios pendones
En las olas de sangre empapad.
Guerra, guerra! En el monte, en el valle
Los cañones horrísonos truenen
Y los ecos sonoros resuenen
Con las voces de Unión! Libertad!
Antes, patria,
que inermes tus hijos
Bajo el yugo su cuello dobleguen,
Tus campiñas con sangre se rieguen,
Sobre sangre se estampe su pie.
Y tus templos, palacios y torres
Se derrumben con hórrido estruendo,
Y sus ruinas existan diciendo:
De mil héroes la patria aquí fue.
¡Patria! ¡Patria! tus hijos te juran
Exhalar en tus aras su aliento,
Si el clarín con su bélico acento,
Los convoca a lidiar con valor:
¡Para ti las guirnaldas de oliva!
¡Un recuerdo para ellos de gloria!
¡Un laurel para ti de victoria!
¡Un sepulcro para ellos de honor!
slurp slurp :D
¡Un sepulcro para ellos de honor!
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:45 AM
"ur granddad bitch" nice comeback
thanx :p
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:47 AM
dude now its dude ur such a poser if you dont speak mayan ask ur mom i thought her some
ur lucky ur mom is too ugly to ***k, if not i would of tought her some of my language as well :ronaldo:
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:49 AM
alright let me stop, i dont hate mexico, i'm actually goin to puebla in march. can u guys tell me if its nice over there?
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 03:50 AM
u a team hopper this guy goes goes for juventus, bayern munich his favorite international teams are peru and italia f$cken poser
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 03:51 AM
a but good thing ur mom is ***k-able so im that all night
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 03:53 AM
u a team hopper this guy goes goes for juventus, bayern munich his favorite international teams are peru and italia f$cken poser
so u tellin me u only go for mexico? wtf, who only goes for 1 team? i live in the states, remember
RojINeGrO5051
12-16-2005, 03:54 AM
chinga su madre a todos que no los gustan
ami mi vale madre
viva mexico para siempre
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 03:58 AM
i go for mexico, and chivas no i dont go for chivas and barcelona
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 04:02 AM
i go for mexico, and chivas no i dont go for chivas and barcelona
i can go for either 3 teams if i want, just like if i wanted i can get either 3 passports :rolleyes:
RojINeGrO5051
12-16-2005, 04:03 AM
well my mexican haters im bout to go out and pollute american society
peace jesus and keep these putos in check :lol:
slurp slurp mr.rigo sauce
jesuslomas15
12-16-2005, 04:04 AM
answer i expected from a poser
dcunited1
12-16-2005, 04:06 AM
HEY; let me again explain something to you guys outhere! i understand that you leave your country behind but your heart is still there! that is normal! unless you come to this country at the age of 14 or less you will have memories for your country; But don't be ignorant and have your eyes closed about what is going on around you; you are now in the US ; US is a different quality of a country like no other! if you guys get involved with americans you will act and be like americans; and you will love Soccer to the fullest extent in the US. it;s just like when you started to learn how to speak english; it's the same way; get to know soccer players, get involved, follow the game; get into NCAA Soccer it's awsome!!! there is also USL , and MISL and MLS there is so much soccer going around to spin your heads; and then of course the NATIONAL TEAM; after 6 months you won't even think of your country anymore! let it go it's in the past!! hey look at the bright side; YOU'LL HAVE A NEW COUNTRY, NEW LIFE, AND A NEW WORLD CUP CHAMPION!
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 04:07 AM
well my mexican haters im bout to go out and pollute american society
peace jesus and keep these putos in check :lol:
slurp slurp mr.rigo sauce
arent u gonna prray to one of ur 1000 virgins? la virgencita de tetlihuachiwacan or something? ahhahha :lol:
arcturus rex
12-16-2005, 04:16 AM
Aquila non capit muscas.
dcunited1
12-16-2005, 04:17 AM
well my favorite team is DC united; they rock!!!! and the USA . but i like to watch soccer in other countries and i do have my favorite teams there! nothing wrong with that! see i'm open minded!!!!! so is Rico nothing wrong with that at all; In England my favorite team is liverpool it allways has been ;in brasil i like Santos; so is there something wrong? no i don't think so;
dcunited1
12-16-2005, 04:21 AM
arent u gonna prray to one of ur 1000 virgins? la virgencita de tetlihuachiwacan or something? ahhahha :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
that is funny!!!!!!!!
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 05:11 AM
Aquila non capit muscas.
che cosa stai dicendo? i think u wanna say aquilae non caput muscas, what does this have to do with football?
p.s. mexico sux big time :D
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 05:30 AM
oh yeah btw Mexico SUx! :ronaldo:
behdad
12-16-2005, 08:28 AM
Mexico sucks, wait and see in Germany. My prediction: They will beat Iran -my high school team can beat Iran- go make your homework you little dog! all what i can say is wait and see!
stuglue
12-16-2005, 08:49 AM
The difference between Mexico and USA is in Mexico the little criminal goes to jail in America the big criminal runs the country.
ricoo9
12-16-2005, 09:00 AM
go make your homework you little dog! all what i can say is wait and see!
Iran will woop mexicos asshole
my prediction
Iran 4- Mexico 0
Armand
12-16-2005, 07:02 PM
lol lots of hating on the board thats o.k. To clear up some misinformation mexico is not outright the third best country in the Americas there are other teams on par with it in the Americas LOL its not the U.S. As for Mr. Donovan I hope he doesn't forget the U.S FINISHED DEAD LAST IN 98 thats why they weren't seeded and even if they hadn't FINISHED DEAD LAST IN 98 what have they Accomplished not a damm thing all they have done is beat mexico and since people say Mexico sucks thats not an accomplishment thereby crumbling your theory about their acccomplishment. LOL Anyway as for the match where they did win against Mexico in Ohio let me set this straight if ohio is the heartland of U.S soccer its pitiful you had to give away free tickets for people to show up LOL. As for the MLS its improved but cannot be confused with the national U.S soccer team in terms of attendence. The reason a lot of people arent excited over the National U.S soccer team is that well they really haven't done much good in recent history and Americans hate losers. And if Iran does beat Mexico all my respect for Iran BTW at least Mexico has a chance in their group. It's quite funny the U.S is toast before the World Cup even started LOL. Winning is winning.
RojINeGrO5051
12-16-2005, 09:46 PM
lol lots of hating on the board thats o.k. To clear up some misinformation mexico is not outright the third best country in the Americas there are other teams on par with it in the Americas LOL its not the U.S. As for Mr. Donovan I hope he doesn't forget the U.S FINISHED DEAD LAST IN 98 thats why they weren't seeded and even if they hadn't FINISHED DEAD LAST IN 98 what have they Accomplished not a damm thing all they have done is beat mexico and since people say Mexico sucks thats not an accomplishment thereby crumbling your theory about their acccomplishment. LOL Anyway as for the match where they did win against Mexico in Ohio let me set this straight if ohio is the heartland of U.S soccer its pitiful you had to give away free tickets for people to show up LOL. As for the MLS its improved but cannot be confused with the national U.S soccer team in terms of attendence. The reason a lot of people arent excited over the National U.S soccer team is that well they really haven't done much good in recent history and Americans hate losers. And if Iran does beat Mexico all my respect for Iran BTW at least Mexico has a chance in their group. It's quite funny the U.S is toast before the World Cup even started LOL. Winning is winning.
c ur a thickheaded clown rico
by the way
DC can suck my big sloppy hairy nuts :llama:
unam_mx
12-17-2005, 12:01 AM
Haha, I couldnt stop laughing when u guys tried to hyep up American soccer...we got all these channels blah blah blah, so what most of them are in Spanish and the only English channels are ABC which broadcasts games like once a week and ESPN2 who broadcasts games like once a month.Yeah u can get the MLS package, but how many people honestly buy it?Not many, and even if they do its quality not quantity that matters and the quality of the MLS is crap.
Also how can USA fans say we suck, u beat us in the USA...we beat u in Mexico.In one neutral game (02' WC) the USA won but one game all of a sudden makes them so much better to the point where they have the right to say we suck?We beat Brasil in the Confed Cup, guess that means they suck.Sounds pretty stupid doesnt it?What ur saying is almost as stupid as that.
rico mustve gotten molested by a Mexican when he was young or something...that dude hates Mexico like if they took his manhood.You say that we talk so much crap, and that thats why u hate them so much.Is saying they are between the 3rd-5th best team in the Americas really considered talking crap?I think there's some other reason for why u hate them...I mean why dont u say nothing to dcunited1 who said USA is the next WC champ?
p.s. if Mexico sux then what does that say about ur sorry-ass Peru?
unam_mx
12-17-2005, 12:25 AM
Regarding the players capable of playing in Europe...exactly, they wouldnt be stars.Who said they would?Who asked if they would?You said Mexico doesnt have hardly any players in Europe not that they dont have any stars.I responded by naming players that couldve/could easily be playing in Europe.I never said any of them would be stars, because a)none of them are really capable of that and b)u didnt ask for stars.
Besides, countries in the Americas other then Bra and Arg only have like one or two players that can be considered stars...some dont even have any true stars.So I dont see the big deal, the majority of the players that go play overseas are just another good player.
And dont generalize everyone just because of DeNigris...he really sucks, just cause he couldnt cut it doesnt mean other players cant either.Rather look at it from the other side, if he can get a stint then so can these other Mexicans who are much more talented.
dcunited1
12-17-2005, 02:28 AM
Haha, I couldnt stop laughing when u guys tried to hyep up American soccer...we got all these channels blah blah blah, so what most of them are in Spanish and the only English channels are ABC which broadcasts games like once a week and ESPN2 who broadcasts games like once a month.Yeah u can get the MLS package, but how many people honestly buy it?Not many, and even if they do its quality not quantity that matters and the quality of the MLS is crap.
Also how can USA fans say we suck, u beat us in the USA...we beat u in Mexico.In one neutral game (02' WC) the USA won but one game all of a sudden makes them so much better to the point where they have the right to say we suck?We beat Brasil in the Confed Cup, guess that means they suck.Sounds pretty stupid doesnt it?What ur saying is almost as stupid as that.
rico mustve gotten molested by a Mexican when he was young or something...that dude hates Mexico like if they took his manhood.You say that we talk so much crap, and that thats why u hate them so much.Is saying they are between the 3rd-5th best team in the Americas really considered talking crap?I think there's some other reason for why u hate them...I mean why dont u say nothing to dcunited1 who said USA is the next WC champ?
p.s. if Mexico sux then what does that say about ur sorry-ass Peru?
:stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop:
you are confused man! 1st we all have fox sports, 24 hours a day ,espn2 has has soccer saturday every week, and the MLS package has alot of fans purchsing it other wise it woudn't last all these years; that's obvious; then for your information the US has an outstanding record of 7-1-1 since 2000 against mexico! please write this down i will not repeat myself again!
jesuslomas15
12-17-2005, 02:32 AM
this f*ckers beat mexico and they think they won the world cup
Armand
12-17-2005, 04:08 AM
The battle continues lol O.K so you have all these channels available that is because you have better technology than everybody else no one is disputing that. Hell if Mexico had fifty telecom sattelites we would broadcast high school games too BTW why doesn't DC United or any of the other hater adress the fact you had to give away free tickets for fans to show up LOL
ricoo9
12-17-2005, 05:30 AM
Haha, I couldnt stop laughing when u guys tried to hyep up American soccer...we got all these channels blah blah blah, so what most of them are in Spanish and the only English channels are ABC which broadcasts games like once a week and ESPN2 who broadcasts games like once a month.Yeah u can get the MLS package, but how many people honestly buy it?Not many, and even if they do its quality not quantity that matters and the quality of the MLS is crap.
get ur info right buddy, goltv has a english version as well as a spanish one and so does fox sports america and fox sports world, besides that if u have satelite u can get different espns that play alot of soccer.
Also how can USA fans say we suck, u beat us in the USA...we beat u in Mexico.In one neutral game (02' WC) the USA won but one game all of a sudden makes them so much better to the point where they have the right to say we suck?We beat Brasil in the Confed Cup, guess that means they suck.Sounds pretty stupid doesnt it?What ur saying is almost as stupid as that..
USA (USA) 2:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
FIFA WC 2006 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF Zone COLUMBUS USA - 03.09.2005
Mexico (MEX) 2:1 (2:0) USA (USA)
FIFA WC 2006 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF Zone MEXICO CITY MEXICO - 27.03.2005
USA (USA) 1:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2004 DALLAS USA - 28.04.2004
USA (USA) 0:0 Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2003 HOUSTON USA - 08.05.2003
Mexico (MEX) 0:2 (0:1) USA (USA)
2002 FIFA World Cup Korea/Japan (TM) JEONJU KOREA REPUBLIC - 17.06.2002
USA (USA) 1:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2002 DENVER USA - 03.04.2002
Mexico (MEX) 1:0 (1:0) USA (USA)
FIFA WC 2002 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF MEXICO CITY MEXICO - 01.07.2001
USA (USA) 2:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
FIFA WC 2002 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF COLUMBUS USA - 28.02.2001
USA (USA) 2:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2000 LOS ANGELES USA - 25.10.2000
USA (USA) 3:0 (1:0) Mexico (MEX)
Those r the stats from the year 2000 to 2005
All this Info i got from the Official FIFA website
USA winning 7, tying 1 and losing 2
in the last 5 years. Looks like USA is Mexicos DADDY :lol:
rico mustve gotten molested by a Mexican when he was young or something...that dude hates Mexico like if they took his manhood.You say that we talk so much crap, and that thats why u hate them so much.Is saying they are between the 3rd-5th best team in the Americas really considered talking crap?I think there's some other reason for why u hate them...I mean why dont u say nothing to dcunited1 who said USA is the next WC champ?
p.s. if Mexico sux then what does that say about ur sorry-ass Peru?
I dont hate mexico, but i love soccer with a passion and for u guys to say ur 3rd in america is an insult to anybody from North and SOuth AMerica. Now u add up to 5th, what happened? before u were so sure they were 3rd. And BTW u dont see me saying Peru is 3rd in AMerica or sayin that their better than anybody. I have mexican friends and i'm goin to puebla in march, i just dont like ppl talkin shit and yeah peru sucks but atleast they beat mexico 3-1 with mexicos "A" team :ronaldo:
dcunited1
12-17-2005, 09:35 AM
get ur info right buddy, goltv has a english version as well as a spanish one and so does fox sports america and fox sports world, besides that if u have satelite u can get different espns that play alot of soccer.
USA (USA) 2:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
FIFA WC 2006 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF Zone COLUMBUS USA - 03.09.2005
Mexico (MEX) 2:1 (2:0) USA (USA)
FIFA WC 2006 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF Zone MEXICO CITY MEXICO - 27.03.2005
USA (USA) 1:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2004 DALLAS USA - 28.04.2004
USA (USA) 0:0 Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2003 HOUSTON USA - 08.05.2003
Mexico (MEX) 0:2 (0:1) USA (USA)
2002 FIFA World Cup Korea/Japan (TM) JEONJU KOREA REPUBLIC - 17.06.2002
USA (USA) 1:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2002 DENVER USA - 03.04.2002
Mexico (MEX) 1:0 (1:0) USA (USA)
FIFA WC 2002 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF MEXICO CITY MEXICO - 01.07.2001
USA (USA) 2:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
FIFA WC 2002 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF COLUMBUS USA - 28.02.2001
USA (USA) 2:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2000 LOS ANGELES USA - 25.10.2000
USA (USA) 3:0 (1:0) Mexico (MEX)
Those r the stats from the year 2000 to 2005
All this Info i got from the Official FIFA website
USA winning 7, tying 1 and losing 2
in the last 5 years. Looks like USA is Mexicos DADDY :lol:
I dont hate mexico, but i love soccer with a passion and for u guys to say ur 3rd in america is an insult to anybody from North and SOuth AMerica. Now u add up to 5th, what happened? before u were so sure they were 3rd. And BTW u dont see me saying Peru is 3rd in AMerica or sayin that their better than anybody. I have mexican friends and i'm goin to puebla in march, i just dont like ppl talkin shit and yeah peru sucks but atleast they beat mexico 3-1 with mexicos "A" team :ronaldo:
ABSOLUTLY! and better technology or not the fact is now a days i can watch more soccer in the US than in any other country in the world! there is more soccer on tv than baseball, or football or any other sport.
unam_mx
12-17-2005, 04:05 PM
get ur info right buddy, goltv has a english version as well as a spanish one and so does fox sports america and fox sports world, besides that if u have satelite u can get different espns that play alot of soccer.
Yeah, but its more then ur basic antenna channels or basic cable...who cares if u can get all these soccer games for paying extra.That almost doesnt count.Besides like I stated, the quality of the MLS is crap.The only nice thing about it is being able to watch games outside of the MLS.But whatever if u wanna think that the MLS is a good league and that soccer is popular in the USA...then go ahead.
USA (USA) 2:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
FIFA WC 2006 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF Zone COLUMBUS USA - 03.09.2005
Mexico (MEX) 2:1 (2:0) USA (USA)
FIFA WC 2006 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF Zone MEXICO CITY MEXICO - 27.03.2005
USA (USA) 1:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2004 DALLAS USA - 28.04.2004
USA (USA) 0:0 Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2003 HOUSTON USA - 08.05.2003
Mexico (MEX) 0:2 (0:1) USA (USA)
2002 FIFA World Cup Korea/Japan (TM) JEONJU KOREA REPUBLIC - 17.06.2002
USA (USA) 1:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2002 DENVER USA - 03.04.2002
Mexico (MEX) 1:0 (1:0) USA (USA)
FIFA WC 2002 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF MEXICO CITY MEXICO - 01.07.2001
USA (USA) 2:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
FIFA WC 2002 Prel. Comp. CONCACAF COLUMBUS USA - 28.02.2001
USA (USA) 2:0 (0:0) Mexico (MEX)
Friendly 2000 LOS ANGELES USA - 25.10.2000
USA (USA) 3:0 (1:0) Mexico (MEX)
Those r the stats from the year 2000 to 2005
All this Info i got from the Official FIFA website
USA winning 7, tying 1 and losing 2
in the last 5 years. Looks like USA is Mexicos DADDY :lol:
Again they beat us in the USA, we beat them in Mexico...what's the big deal?Put most of those games in Mexico and the record would be just as bad, if not worse for the USA.You're basically going by the one neutral game and again does one game really justify saying that u are so much better then another team, to the point where u can say they suck?You want to think theyre better cool, I can accept that even if I dont agree...but its not by much.Theyre not so superior that they have the right to say we suck, thats just being a hater.
I dont hate mexico, but i love soccer with a passion and for u guys to say ur 3rd in america is an insult to anybody from North and SOuth AMerica. Now u add up to 5th, what happened? before u were so sure they were 3rd. And BTW u dont see me saying Peru is 3rd in AMerica or sayin that their better than anybody. I have mexican friends and i'm goin to puebla in march, i just dont like ppl talkin shit and yeah peru sucks but atleast they beat mexico 3-1 with mexicos "A" team :ronaldo:
You dont hate them? :lol:
Anyways, how the hell is it an insult to say theyre 3rd?I could agree if u put them above that since it would be an insult to Arg and Bra...but the teams that are battling for that 3rd spot along with Mexico (Par, USA) arent so much better then Mexico (if at all) to where it would be an insult.You could have any of those three as 3rd and nothing should be said, unless u hate one of those teams with a passion...which in ur case applies to Mexico.
And dont come with this weak BS about me all of a sudden changing my mind, u always magically forget things to help out ur aguement...quit being an idiot.I told u like weeks ago, that I still think that Mexico is 3rd but if u have Paraguay or the USA ahead of them thats reasonable enough and u wont get crap from me even if I dont agree.Even though I dislike the USA, Im putting my hatred aside and being objective...something ur dumbass seems incapable of doing.
Quit trying to act like a victim, "oh if Mexicans didnt talk so much shit then I would hate them"...shut the hell up dude.What about all those Mexico 2-0 Hungary goals from the naturalized Argentinian and Brasilian?Or constantly saying they suck?Saying they will lose 4-0 to Iran?Calling them the 10th best team in the Americas?The list goes on.Yet we simply say they are 3rd in the Americas, which is much more reasonable then ur BS and u explode.Sorry a Mexican took ur manhood man, but u shouldnt take it out on the Mexican NT.
Peru?Yeah they beat us but we have beat teams like Arg and Bra.Does that makes us better then them?Peru simply sucks...nothing else needs to be said.
ricoo9
12-17-2005, 04:34 PM
Again they beat us in the USA, we beat them in Mexico...what's the big deal?Put most of those games in Mexico and the record would be just as bad, if not worse for the USA.You're basically going by the one neutral game and again does one game really justify saying that u are so much better then another team, to the point where u can say they suck?You want to think theyre better cool, I can accept that even if I dont agree...but its not by much.Theyre not so superior that they have the right to say we suck, thats just being a hater..
A lot of times when the Mexico plays US here, it is where the majority of ppl r mexican, and they havent lost once or twice, they have lost 7 times to 2, big difference.[/QUOTE]
And dont come with this weak BS about me all of a sudden changing my mind, u always magically forget things to help out ur aguement...quit being an idiot.I told u like weeks ago, that I still think that Mexico is 3rd but if u have Paraguay or the USA ahead of them thats reasonable enough and u wont get crap from me even if I dont agree.Even though I dislike the USA, Im putting my hatred aside and being objective...something ur dumbass seems incapable of doing.
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puh-lease! when did u start saying mexico could be 5th? after like a million posts and a month after. u could of swore in ur life that mexico was above all other south american teams.
Peru?Yeah they beat us but we have beat teams like Arg and Bra.Does that makes us better then them?Peru simply sucks...nothing else needs to be said.
Bolivia beat Brazil too, I guess bolivia is 3rd best in america? :lol: u know what at least teams like Peru, Paragay, Urugay, Colombia can beat Mexico whenever they feel like it, Mexico isnt superior to anybody :sorry: if not u would atleast beat these teams as a home team :sad: loser
p.s. MExico sucks, ur best player is brazilian
unam_mx
12-17-2005, 05:35 PM
A lot of times when the Mexico plays US here, it is where the majority of ppl r mexican, and they havent lost once or twice, they have lost 7 times to 2, big difference.
Doesnt matter, put those games in Mexico and the cards turn...either way it doesnt justify a USA fan saying Mexico sucks.If they are better, which I dont believe they are, it isnt by much.
puh-lease! when did u start saying mexico could be 5th? after like a million posts and a month after. u could of swore in ur life that mexico was above all other south american teams.
This is why its almost impossible to have a real arguement with ur dumbass..u only like to see the things that benefit u.Quit being a retard, initially in like my first 10 posts I said they were 3rd for sure but since then before any of u guys were able "to change my mind" I included Par and the USA with them.I became objective on my own, something ur retarded self cant do even with the help of people throwing out clear facts at u.
It's like in the other arguement...I asked u why u make such a big deal of head-to-head friendlies saying its a great measuring stick, yet feel the opposite about the WC.You just ignore it in ur first reply then ran away from it after I called u out.You see what u want to see.
Bolivia beat Brazil too, I guess bolivia is 3rd best in america? :lol: u know what at least teams like Peru, Paragay, Urugay, Colombia can beat Mexico whenever they feel like it, Mexico isnt superior to anybody :sorry: if not u would atleast beat these teams as a home team :sad: loser
p.s. MExico sucks, ur best player is brazilian
There u go again, assuming that we are basing our arguement of Mexico being 3rd on one thing...in this case because they beat Brasil.Are u retarded or do u just act like it on purpose?Who the hell said that was the reason why they were 3rd?I was responding to ur statement about how Peru beat us...I responded by saying big deal we have beat teams like Bra and Arg, that doesnt make us better then them.Just like Peru beating Mexico in a friendly doesnt make them better then us.
And yeah, Im sure those teams can beat us when they feel like it...and they arent superior to anybody.Then u say u dont hate us?One more thing (another of those points u ignored/didnt want to see):
"Quit trying to act like a victim, "oh if Mexicans didnt talk so much shit then I wouldnt hate them"...shut the hell up dude.What about all those Mexico 2-0 Hungary goals from the naturalized Argentinian and Brasilian?Or constantly saying they suck?Saying they will lose 4-0 to Iran?Calling them the 10th best team in the Americas?The list goes on.Yet we simply say they are 3rd in the Americas, which is much more reasonable then ur BS and u explode.Sorry a Mexican took ur manhood man, but u shouldnt take it out on the Mexican NT."
Please respond.
ricoo9
12-17-2005, 05:54 PM
And yeah, Im sure those teams can beat us when they feel like it...and they arent superior to anybody.
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finally u make some sense, any team can beat mexico they arent better than anybody,if these teams suck and they can beat mexico means they r better tthen them , i'm glad u realize mexico sucks now :ronaldo: :hippie:
unam_mx
12-17-2005, 06:13 PM
finally u make some sense, any team can beat mexico they arent better than anybody,if these teams suck and they can beat mexico means they r better tthen them , i'm glad u realize mexico sucks now :ronaldo: :hippie:
Haha, u are unreal...
There u go again ignoring the rest of the post and for the record I was being sarcastic.But lets play along...so by ur logic since Mexico supposedly sucks and they can beat Arg and Bra then they are better then them?Check it out:
"if these teams suck(insert Mexico) and they can beat mexico(insert Bra/Arg instead) means they r better tthen them , i'm glad u realize mexico(insert Bra/Arg instead) sucks now"
How dumb does that sound?
ricoo9
12-17-2005, 06:30 PM
Haha, u are unreal...
There u go again ignoring the rest of the post and for the record I was being sarcastic.But lets play along...so by ur logic since Mexico supposedly sucks and they can beat Arg and Bra then they are better then them?Check it out:
"if these teams suck(insert Mexico) and they can beat mexico(insert Bra/Arg instead) means they r better tthen them , i'm glad u realize mexico(insert Bra/Arg instead) sucks now"
How dumb does that sound?
because mexico might beat brazil every 300 years dont mean shit. These conmebol teams beat mexico on a constant basis as u have seen in ronnis posts. U say Mexico is better than Australia yet u guys have never been able to beat them, and that 4 years ago, Australia has improved alot since then but yet urugay sucks cuz they lost to them. I'm tired of arguing with u, u r not goin to convince me that mexico is 3rd in americas and i guess i am not goin to convince u neither even though i have showed u more than enough stats and proof, and i'm not the only one that has been sayin this as u can read in this thread and others i have come to realize that only mexicans think they r 3rd, i have seen the opinions of colombians,chileans, argentinas, americans, british all in this thread and u r only supported by mexicans, even ronny put the facts that paragay and usa r on top of them, so w/e keep thinking u guys r better than everybody i dont care anymore, opinions r opinions and facts r facts.
RojINeGrO5051
12-17-2005, 06:59 PM
mexico #3 n the americas
:sad:
unam_mx
12-17-2005, 07:14 PM
because mexico might beat brazil every 300 years dont mean shit. These conmebol teams beat mexico on a constant basis as u have seen in ronnis posts. I'm tired of arguing with u, u r not goin to convince me that mexico is 3rd in americas and i guess i am not goin to convince u neither even though i have showed u more than enough stats and proof, and i'm not the only one that has been sayin this as u can read in this thread and others i have come to realize that only mexicans think they r 3rd, i have seen the opinions of colombians,chileans, argentinas, americans, british all in this thread and u r only supported by mexicans, even ronny put the facts that paragay and usa r on top of them, so w/e keep thinking u guys r better than everybody i dont care anymore, opinions r opinions and facts r facts.
What facts, the friendlies?Where in some cases both teams have like maybe 1 or 2 players from the regular team?You say the Copa America is irrelevant because the big teams bring B teams and they dont care about it...yet in the friendlies where its much worse (teams bring like C teams and really dont give a crap about the game) its important.Yet the Copa America along with the WC and other tournaments arent important...go figure, who wouldve guessed that. :rolleyes:
Facts my ass dude...the only thing u want to go by is head-to-head because oddly enough it is pretty even rather then in Mexico's favor like almost everything else.And for reals noone thinks Mexico is 3rd other then Mexicans?Check what ur boy bboytreble had to say:
what would be your order tho?
mine would be
1. argentina/brazil
2.germany
3.czech
4.mexico
5.portugal
6.italy
7.england
8.holland
9.equador
10.france
Would u look at them apples?He not only had them 3rd in the Americas but 4th in the world.Here's a few more:
martin_petrov17-Bulgarian
1. Brazil
2. Germany
3. France
4. Italy
5. England
6. Netherlands
7. Argentina
8. Spain
9. Mexico
10. Czech Republic
No order, they are all pretty good
Ivan7637-Croatian
Heres mine at this moment in time..
1. Brazil
2. Argentina
3. Czech republic
4. England
5. Netherlands
6. Germany
7. Italy
8. Poland
9. Croatia
10. Mexico
soccerates-Italian
1 - Argentina
2 - Brazil
3 - Der Dutch
4 - Czechs
5 - Italy
6 - Portugal
7 - England
8 - Croatia
9 - Spain
10 - Mexico
Thats from just one thread "Top 10 Football Nations"...and in the "3rd in the Americas" they are still 4th according to the poll which still applies to the 3rd-5th range that Im giving.Probably wouldve been 3rd if u didnt make up all these usernames and vote for the USA (what happened to them anyways?Looks like the only purpose they had was to vote against Mexico and vote in favor of ur beloved Peru on another thread.Coincedence?).
You say u dont really hate them, but its moreso cause we supposedly talk so much shit.But is what we say really considered talking shit?Most people would agree that 3rd-5th is very very accurate...even though u act like its the dumbest thing in the world to say.And u never say anything to USA fans who think they are the next WC champs.You have a problem dude, admit it.You hate them quit saying u dont...ur generalizing all Mexicans including the NT because of one Mexican who took ur manhood.Thats not right buddy, we're not all like that :)
Try a psychiatrist...it might help u overcome ur problem.
RojINeGrO5051
12-17-2005, 07:19 PM
What facts, the friendlies?Where in some cases both teams have like maybe 1 or 2 players from the regular team?You say the Copa America is irrelevant because the big teams bring B teams and they dont care about it...yet in the friendlies where its much worse (teams bring like C teams and really dont give a crap about the game) its important.Yet the Copa America along with the WC and other tournaments arent important...go figure, who wouldve guessed that. :rolleyes:
Facts my ass dude...the only thing u want to go by is head-to-head because oddly enough it is pretty even rather then in Mexico's favor like almost everything else.And for reals noone thinks Mexico is 3rd other then Mexicans?Check what ur boy bboytreble had to say:
Would u look at them apples?He not only had them 3rd in the Americas but 4th in the world.Here's a few more:
martin_petrov17-Bulgarian
1. Brazil
2. Germany
3. France
4. Italy
5. England
6. Netherlands
7. Argentina
8. Spain
9. Mexico
10. Czech Republic
No order, they are all pretty good
Ivan7637-Croatian
Heres mine at this moment in time..
1. Brazil
2. Argentina
3. Czech republic
4. England
5. Netherlands
6. Germany
7. Italy
8. Poland
9. Croatia
10. Mexico
soccerates-Italian
1 - Argentina
2 - Brazil
3 - Der Dutch
4 - Czechs
5 - Italy
6 - Portugal
7 - England
8 - Croatia
9 - Spain
10 - Mexico
Thats from just one thread "Top 10 Football Nations"...and in the "3rd in the Americas" they are still 4th according to the poll which still applies to the 3rd-5th range that Im giving.Probably wouldve been 3rd if u didnt make up all these usernames and vote for the USA (what happened to them anyways?Looks like the only purpose they had was to vote against Mexico and vote in favor of ur beloved Peru on another thread.Coincedence?).
You say u dont really hate them, but its moreso cause we supposedly talk so much shit.But is what we say really considered talking shit?Most people would agree that 3rd-5th is very very accurate...even though u act like its the dumbest thing in the world to say.And u never say anything to USA fans who think they are the next WC champs.You have a problem dude, admit it.You hate them quit saying u dont...ur generalizing all Mexicans including the NT because of one Mexican who took ur manhood.Thats not right buddy, we're not all like that :)
Try a psychiatrist...it might help u overcome ur problem.
ouch but hey we been trying to tell u retarded clown
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
ricoo9
12-17-2005, 07:45 PM
What facts, the friendlies?Where in some cases both teams have like maybe 1 or 2 players from the regular team?You say the Copa America is irrelevant because the big teams bring B teams and they dont care about it...yet in the friendlies where its much worse (teams bring like C teams and really dont give a crap about the game) its important.Yet the Copa America along with the WC and other tournaments arent important...go figure, who wouldve guessed that. :rolleyes:
Facts my ass dude...the only thing u want to go by is head-to-head because oddly enough it is pretty even rather then in Mexico's favor like almost everything else.And for reals noone thinks Mexico is 3rd other then Mexicans?Check what ur boy bboytreble had to say:
Would u look at them apples?He not only had them 3rd in the Americas but 4th in the world.Here's a few more:
martin_petrov17-Bulgarian
1. Brazil
2. Germany
3. France
4. Italy
5. England
6. Netherlands
7. Argentina
8. Spain
9. Mexico
10. Czech Republic
No order, they are all pretty good
Ivan7637-Croatian
Heres mine at this moment in time..
1. Brazil
2. Argentina
3. Czech republic
4. England
5. Netherlands
6. Germany
7. Italy
8. Poland
9. Croatia
10. Mexico
soccerates-Italian
1 - Argentina
2 - Brazil
3 - Der Dutch
4 - Czechs
5 - Italy
6 - Portugal
7 - England
8 - Croatia
9 - Spain
10 - Mexico
Thats from just one thread "Top 10 Football Nations"...and in the "3rd in the Americas" they are still 4th according to the poll which still applies to the 3rd-5th range that Im giving.Probably wouldve been 3rd if u didnt make up all these usernames and vote for the USA (what happened to them anyways?Looks like the only purpose they had was to vote against Mexico and vote in favor of ur beloved Peru on another thread.Coincedence?).
You say u dont really hate them, but its moreso cause we supposedly talk so much shit.But is what we say really considered talking shit?Most people would agree that 3rd-5th is very very accurate...even though u act like its the dumbest thing in the world to say.And u never say anything to USA fans who think they are the next WC champs.You have a problem dude, admit it.You hate them quit saying u dont...ur generalizing all Mexicans including the NT because of one Mexican who took ur manhood.Thats not right buddy, we're not all like that :)
Try a psychiatrist...it might help u overcome ur problem.
I can show u just as many ppl in this forum sayin mexico isnt as good, u guys hype ur team up way more than it should be and these ppl were most likely brainwashed just like u and the other mexicans have, but anyone that really knows the sport and is from the americas (non mexican) knows that mexico sucks. :smoking:
As for one person from the US saying they R the best, i dont have to worry about that cuz most of them arent like that. but every mexican i know thinks u guys r gonna be the world champs or something, and i see it on tv, everywhere, u guys talk alot of garbage, have no respect for other teams and at the end u guys lose, end of story, u guys suck and u shoudlnt be talkin shit.
as for saying i got problems, i think ur just mad cuz i ***ked ur mom and came in her face, who knows i might be ur father, have more respect ;) stupid mexican :lol:
ricoo9
12-17-2005, 07:53 PM
ouch but hey we been trying to tell u retarded clown
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
ur the stupidest mexican out of all of them, why dont u learn some english while ur at it, i heard ingles sin barreras is cheaper now u might wanna try it :D
andale andale arriba arriba :lol: :drum:
unam_mx
12-17-2005, 07:57 PM
Here's more:
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/h2h/index.html?ta=MEX&tb=BRA&cl=a
MEX-BRA
18 Played 18
6 Won 8
4 Drawn 4
8 Lost 6
19 Goals 31
19-JUN-05 HANOVER (Germany) Mexico 1-0 Brazil
18-JUL-04 PIURA (Peru) Mexico 0-4 Brazil
27-JUL-03 MEXICO CITY (Mexico) Brazil 0-1 Mexico
13-JUL-03 MEXICO CITY (Mexico) Mexico 1-0 Brazil
30-APR-03 GUADALAJARA (Mexico) Mexico 0-0 Brazil
12-JUL-01 CALI (Colombia) Brazil 0-1 Mexico
07-MAR-01 GUADALAJARA (Mexico) Mexico 3-3 Brazil
04-AUG-99 MEXICO CITY (Mexico) Mexico 4-3 Brazil
14-JUL-99 CIUDAD DEL ESTE (Paraguay) Mexico 0-2 Brazil
03-JUL-99 CIUDAD DEL ESTE (Paraguay) Brazil 2-1 Mexico
16-DEC-97 RIYADH (Saudi Arabia) Brazil 3-2 Mexico
16-JUN-97 SANTA CRUZ (Bolivia) Brazil 3-2 Mexico
30-APR-97 MIAMI (USA) Mexico 0-4 Brazil
21-JAN-96 LOS ANGELES (USA) Brazil 0-2 Mexico
16-DEC-93 GUADALAJARA (Mexico) Mexico 0-1 Brazil
08-AUG-93 MACEIO (Brazil) Brazil 1-1 Mexico
31-JUL-92 LOS ANGELES (USA) Mexico 0-5 Brazil
12-DEC-90 LOS ANGELES (USA) Brazil 0-0 Mexico
Look at them apples!Every 300 years my ass...in the last 8 games--5 wins for Mexico, 2 ties, and 1 loss.Quick, give me another team that can compare to those results against Brasil.You cant.
I know there's all these cirumstances that we're not considering (subs) and so on, but u didnt seem to consider that when u brought up the results of Mexico vs. USA...and look at that, in the last 6 yrs the "dominance" of Mexico over Brasil is just as clear as that of the USA over Mexico.I guess like u say that makes Mexico Brasil's daddy.Atleast by ur logic :sad:
ricoo9
12-17-2005, 08:02 PM
Here's more:
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/h2h/index.html?ta=MEX&tb=BRA&cl=a
MEX-BRA
18 Played 18
6 Won 8
4 Drawn 4
8 Lost 6
19 Goals 31
19-JUN-05 HANOVER (Germany) Mexico 1-0 Brazil
18-JUL-04 PIURA (Peru) Mexico 0-4 Brazil
27-JUL-03 MEXICO CITY (Mexico) Brazil 0-1 Mexico
13-JUL-03 MEXICO CITY (Mexico) Mexico 1-0 Brazil
30-APR-03 GUADALAJARA (Mexico) Mexico 0-0 Brazil
12-JUL-01 CALI (Colombia) Brazil 0-1 Mexico
07-MAR-01 GUADALAJARA (Mexico) Mexico 3-3 Brazil
04-AUG-99 MEXICO CITY (Mexico) Mexico 4-3 Brazil
14-JUL-99 CIUDAD DEL ESTE (Paraguay) Mexico 0-2 Brazil
03-JUL-99 CIUDAD DEL ESTE (Paraguay) Brazil 2-1 Mexico
16-DEC-97 RIYADH (Saudi Arabia) Brazil 3-2 Mexico
16-JUN-97 SANTA CRUZ (Bolivia) Brazil 3-2 Mexico
30-APR-97 MIAMI (USA) Mexico 0-4 Brazil
21-JAN-96 LOS ANGELES (USA) Brazil 0-2 Mexico
16-DEC-93 GUADALAJARA (Mexico) Mexico 0-1 Brazil
08-AUG-93 MACEIO (Brazil) Brazil 1-1 Mexico
31-JUL-92 LOS ANGELES (USA) Mexico 0-5 Brazil
12-DEC-90 LOS ANGELES (USA) Brazil 0-0 Mexico
Look at them apples!Every 300 years my ass...in the last 8 games--5 wins for Mexico, 2 ties, and 1 loss.Quick, give me another team that can compare to those results against Brasil.You cant.
I know there's all these cirumstances that we're not considering (subs) and so on, but u didnt seem to consider that when u brought up the results of Mexico vs. USA...and look at that, in the last 6 yrs the "dominance" of Mexico over Brasil is just as clear as that of the USA over Mexico.I guess like u say that makes Mexico Brasil's daddy.Atleast by ur logic :sad:
w/e dude, theres not point in arguin cuz neither of us r gonna accept our points, u can say w/e u want man, mexico is better than brazil then, they play many friendlies and mexico always wins, good for them, but cups like copa america they lose 4-0. i hope u see how u guys get hyped for no reason cuz when it comes down to important games u always lose. u can say w/e u want man, mexico is the next world champion if u want too! :lol:
unam_mx
12-17-2005, 08:10 PM
I can show u just as many ppl in this forum sayin mexico isnt as good, u guys hype ur team up way more than it should be and these ppl were most likely brainwashed just like u and the other mexicans have, but anyone that really knows the sport and is from the americas (non mexican) knows that mexico sucks. :smoking:
People that are like u?That think they absolutely suck, that think theyll lose 4-0 to Iran, that consider them 10th in the Americas?...find me another one.Even Punkguy thinks they can be considered 3rd along with a few other teams.Brainwashed?Oh yeah those people have been brainwashed by all that pro-Mexico propaganda in Europe :lol: ...give me a break.
And ok man, u really know the sport...ur this great football mind :rolleyes:
As for one person from the US saying they R the best, i dont have to worry about that cuz most of them arent like that. but every mexican i know thinks u guys r gonna be the world champs or something, and i see it on tv, everywhere, u guys talk alot of garbage, have no respect for other teams and at the end u guys lose, end of story, u guys suck and u shoudlnt be talkin shit.
Again, find me a post of a few Mexicans who think we'll win the WC...nevermind all Mexicans like u say, u'll just be on a pointless search if u do that.
You come up with this crap on ur own, u want to hate them...quit saying we give u a reason to do so.All we say is that theyre 3rd-5th in the Americas and ur nipples get all hard cause of it.
as for saying i got problems, i think ur just mad cuz i ***ked ur mom and came in her face, who knows i might be ur father, have more respect ;) stupid mexican :lol:
I'll just appoint this idiotic response to ur tragic past...I'll let u off the hook.I can only imagine how hard getting robbed of ur manhood is, so I'll show some sympathy for u.
But seriously go get some help dude, try a psychiatrist or something...it will only help u :)
unam_mx
12-17-2005, 08:19 PM
w/e dude, theres not point in arguin cuz neither of us r gonna accept our points, u can say w/e u want man, mexico is better than brazil then, they play many friendlies and mexico always wins, good for them, but cups like copa america they lose 4-0. i hope u see how u guys get hyped for no reason cuz when it comes down to important games u always lose. u can say w/e u want man, mexico is the next world champion if u want too! :lol:
Click the link, look at the right side of the page...look at the events at which the games where played.Mostly friendlies?
And no I dont think that theyre better then Brasil or that they will win the WC...its called making a point.You use the same crap and assume that the USA is Mexico's daddy and that the USA has the right to say that we suck.Going by your logic, I said the same thing...so whats the big deal?
But since u cant seem to tell when someone is serious or not...Ill make it very clear for u--it was just to show u how stupid it is to make such an assumption because of a few recent results, dont take it out of context and run with it by claiming that I think theyre better then Bra and that they will win the WC...that is weak, just like all ur weak arguements :boo:
RojINeGrO5051
12-17-2005, 11:30 PM
ur the stupidest mexican out of all of them, why dont u learn some english while ur at it, i heard ingles sin barreras is cheaper now u might wanna try it :D
andale andale arriba arriba :lol: :drum:
like i SAID ur sad sad retarded clown :wacko: whos hate blinds u andale andale aribba aribba :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: no lllores animal
i bet u get bullyed at school huh :lol:
u go home and cry :lol:
then u take out ur frustration out on here :sad:
***kn net warrior :typing: :lol: :lol:
o please dont scare me mister clown :lol: :lol:
ricoo9
12-18-2005, 02:15 AM
People that are like u?That think they absolutely suck, that think theyll lose 4-0 to Iran, that consider them 10th in the Americas?...find me another one.Even Punkguy thinks they can be considered 3rd along with a few other teams.Brainwashed?Oh yeah those people have been brainwashed by all that pro-Mexico propaganda in Europe :lol: ...give me a break.
ppl like me?? i didnt know there were so many lol, why would there be so many ppl like me that "hate" mexico? i dont get it, mexicans r so humble, they dont talk garbage and they r the 3rd best in america :lol:
anyway i think punkguy really just said that to be nice. and u say Urugay sucks for losing to australia but guess what, mexico has lost twice to them.
i think what u need to do is open ur ***kin eyes and not ur ass like u'v been doing u ***kin retarded mexican, u think europeans even care if mexico is 3rd or 10th in americas?? they only think brazil and argentina r worthy, why would they care about mexico or anyother conmebol team? ur asking the wrong ppl, ask a uruguayan or a paraguayan, colombian etc, ask them if they think mexico is 3rd, anyways why r u so mad? if mexico is really 3rd u wouldnt be getting so upset or is it that everybody here has proved u wrong, including punkguy and ronny. Mexico doesnt have the players nor the capacity to make a great team, ur best player is a brazilian guy, wtf...
ricoo9
12-18-2005, 02:29 AM
Click the link, look at the right side of the page...look at the events at which the games where played.Mostly friendlies?
And no I dont think that theyre better then Brasil or that they will win the WC...its called making a point.You use the same crap and assume that the USA is Mexico's daddy and that the USA has the right to say that we suck.Going by your logic, I said the same thing...so whats the big deal?
ur stupider than i thought, USA beats u guys not only in friendlies, but in WC's, in qualifying matches, "gold cups" etc.
U say i'm being ilogical right? well what about ur logic? if we go by ur logic then we cant use any games whats so ever because wether or not its friendly or not it doesnt matter cuz the fact the they lost goes against ur point, that is what u r telling me in this post. If the WC is a big factor for ur "point", then lets use it . USA 2 - mexico 0
I think its alright to be a dreamer but u guys really think ur that good, what u need to do is get ur head out of ur ass and back to reality. USA not only beats u guys in friendlies, but they beat u in the most important of all and it wasnt luck buddy, US is such plain better
RojINeGrO5051
12-18-2005, 03:02 AM
tell me rico so i can respect u as a man do u really think mexico sucks
if u do u have no knowledge of the most beautiful game on the planet
dcunited1
12-18-2005, 04:09 AM
hey ; i have to give rico credit he does know what he is saying; let's not forget peru put out one of the best players in the world with teofilo cubillas;
Peru plays a very tough WC qualifier; and you have to appreciate his love for the country he is in; let me tell you guys alot of mexicans favor the US national team over mexico; and i mean alot of them; so by rico sticking up for the country that he lives in and loves is very normal; and after all we have to realize that if we stick together as the AMERICAS; WE RULE THE WORLD IN SOCCER; THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND; the best soccer in the entire world is in the AMERICAS; Can you guys see that? take the world continents there are 5 CONTINENTS; THE AMERICAS is the KING OF SOCCER and that's final;;;;There is no continent that will even come close; you know when they mention UEFA it would be like us mentioning concacaf & conmebol together; I imagine that maybe one day this will be finalized; then what is the UEFA? I MEAN WHY DOES THE WORLD HAVE 5 CONTINENTS AND FIFA HAS 6 CONFEDERATIONS? UEFA IS EUROPE; OCEANIA IS OCEANIA;ASIA IS AFC; AFRICA IS CAF; AND THE AMERICAS IS SEPARATED INTO TWO;CONMEBOL & CONCACAF; ONE DAY THIS PROBLEM SHOULD BE RESOLVED; can you guys imagine how powerfull the americas is?
forzaeagle
12-18-2005, 04:20 AM
i mean why do you hate the mexican so much????
if you think your better that them your very wrong i mean you never won a game against them in mexico
and about iran you only played them one game and they won
so whats all the arrogance about?????
are you from the USA or ARGENTINA
PS
i'm no iranian or mexican
but get real dude
ricoo9
12-18-2005, 06:33 AM
tell me rico so i can respect u as a man do u really think mexico sucks
if u do u have no knowledge of the most beautiful game on the planet
i think mexico has a decent team, but u guys dont get that into ur heads, they r decent, thats about it, nothing more but u guys keep thinkin so much of ur team so u make me "hate" if thats what u wanna call it, but w/e man, i still dont think their 3rd, as far as i see it there is enough evidence for me and u can think what u want
ricoo9
12-18-2005, 06:58 AM
Again, find me a post of a few Mexicans who think we'll win the WC...nevermind all Mexicans like u say, u'll just be on a pointless search if u do that.
You come up with this crap on ur own, u want to hate them...quit saying we give u a reason to do so.All we say is that theyre 3rd-5th in the Americas and ur nipples get all hard cause of it.
HEY WTHA UP bITCHES HEXICO ALL THE WAY!
mEXICO IS GONNA KICK NUTS AT THE MUNDIAL WE ARE GONNA NOCK bRAZILS NUTS OFF!!! SO FOR ALL U BITCHES WHO THINK OTHERWISE SUCK NUTS!!
pointless search? Nuf said :D
RojINeGrO5051
12-18-2005, 04:21 PM
i think mexico has a decent team, but u guys dont get that into ur heads, they r decent, thats about it, nothing more but u guys keep thinkin so much of ur team so u make me "hate" if thats what u wanna call it, but w/e man, i still dont think their 3rd, as far as i see it there is enough evidence for me and u can think what u want
again u did not answer my question :faint2:
ricoo9
12-18-2005, 05:53 PM
again u did not answer my question :faint2:
how did i not answer ur question? i said their decent, that means their ok, but their not great
unam_mx
12-18-2005, 06:13 PM
ppl like me?? i didnt know there were so many lol, why would there be so many ppl like me that "hate" mexico? i dont get it, mexicans r so humble, they dont talk garbage and they r the 3rd best in america
anyway i think punkguy really just said that to be nice. and u say Urugay sucks for losing to australia but guess what, mexico has lost twice to them.
i think what u need to do is open ur ***kin eyes and not ur ass like u'v been doing u ***kin retarded mexican, u think europeans even care if mexico is 3rd or 10th in americas?? they only think brazil and argentina r worthy, why would they care about mexico or anyother conmebol team? ur asking the wrong ppl, ask a uruguayan or a paraguayan, colombian etc, ask them if they think mexico is 3rd, anyways why r u so mad? if mexico is really 3rd u wouldnt be getting so upset or is it that everybody here has proved u wrong, including punkguy and ronny. Mexico doesnt have the players nor the capacity to make a great team, ur best player is a brazilian guy, wtf...
Man u are really slow, u always need me to tell u things two times before u understand what I'm really saying...I was asking u to find someone else that has the same views as u towards Mexico.That thinks they absolutely suck, that theyre the 10th best team in the Americas, and that they will lose 4-0 to Iran.You wont be able to...and yeah I'm sure Punkguy was just being nice :rolleyes: .Idiot, what kind of weak crap is that?So I guess everyone that disagrees with what ur saying is just being nice to Mexico as well?
And who has proved me wrong?Punkguy thinks they can be considered 3rd, Ronny feels the same...the only dumbass that cant put his hatred aside and be objective is u.And again what facts do u speak of?The only thing that is even are head-to-head matchups, so what u are saying is we should just look at those nearly-meaningless games and make the assumption that Mexico is not better, nor worse then teams like Ven and Peru?All while ignoring everything else that favors Mexico (WC, tournaments)? :faint2:
ur stupider than i thought, USA beats u guys not only in friendlies, but in WC's, in qualifying matches, "gold cups" etc.
U say i'm being ilogical right? well what about ur logic? if we go by ur logic then we cant use any games whats so ever because wether or not its friendly or not it doesnt matter cuz the fact the they lost goes against ur point, that is what u r telling me in this post. If the WC is a big factor for ur "point", then lets use it . USA 2 - mexico 0
I think its alright to be a dreamer but u guys really think ur that good, what u need to do is get ur head out of ur ass and back to reality. USA not only beats u guys in friendlies, but they beat u in the most important of all and it wasnt luck buddy, US is such plain better
Again, click the link I gave u for the Mexico vs. Brasil results...in the last 8 games in which Mexico has 5 wins, 2 draws, and 1 loss only two were friendlies.They were the two ties.The others have been during Confed Cups, Copa Americas, or Copa de Oros.
And dont put words in my mouth, noone is dreaming...noone believes they are better then Brasil nor that they will win the WC.Its just to show how stupid it is to take a few recent results of the USA over Mexico and say theyre their daddy, cause I could use ur logic and do the same with Mexico and Brasil...and it would make no sense.
Luck?Dont come with that weak crap man...if it was actually done every "300 yrs" then yes u could call it that.But to get 5 wins in the last 8 games, draw 2 and lose just 1.There aint nothing lucky about that...doesnt make them better then Brasil but dont try to belittle what they have been able to do.
Yes, the USA beat us in the WC...have I ever said that I have a problem withs someone saying theyre better then Mexico?I dont agree, but I have said its reasonable.What I dont agree with is u guys talking all this crap and saying theyre Mexico's daddy.Who know's it couldve just been a cinderella run in 02' and they could go back to their 98' form.They need to show consistency before they can be considered Mexico's "daddy".
Regarding that one guy that said we will win the WC...wow one guy.I could find u one USA fan as well (dcunited), u claimed that all of us thought that way.You're wrong, u can find a few that are stupid (can be said for every country) but u wont find anything close to "all of us" who think like that as u claim.
ricoo9
12-18-2005, 07:11 PM
Man u are really slow, u always need me to tell u things two times before u understand what I'm really saying...I was asking u to find someone else that has the same views as u towards Mexico.That thinks they absolutely suck, that theyre the 10th best team in the Americas, and that they will lose 4-0 to Iran.You wont be able to...and yeah I'm sure Punkguy was just being nice :rolleyes: .Idiot, what kind of weak crap is that?So I guess everyone that disagrees with what ur saying is just being nice to Mexico as well?
And who has proved me wrong?Punkguy thinks they can be considered 3rd, Ronny feels the same...the only dumbass that cant put his hatred aside and be objective is u.And again what facts do u speak of?The only thing that is even are head-to-head matchups, so what u are saying is we should just look at those nearly-meaningless games and make the assumption that Mexico is not better, nor worse then teams like Ven and Peru?All while ignoring everything else that favors Mexico (WC, tournaments)? :faint2:
Again, click the link I gave u for the Mexico vs. Brasil results...in the last 8 games in which Mexico has 5 wins, 2 draws, and 1 loss only two were friendlies.They were the two ties.The others have been during Confed Cups, Copa Americas, or Copa de Oros.
And dont put words in my mouth, noone is dreaming...noone believes they are better then Brasil nor that they will win the WC.Its just to show how stupid it is to take a few recent results of the USA over Mexico and say theyre their daddy, cause I could use ur logic and do the same with Mexico and Brasil...and it would make no sense.
Luck?Dont come with that weak crap man...if it was actually done every "300 yrs" then yes u could call it that.But to get 5 wins in the last 8 games, draw 2 and lose just 1.There aint nothing lucky about that...doesnt make them better then Brasil but dont try to belittle what they have been able to do.
Yes, the USA beat us in the WC...have I ever said that I have a problem withs someone saying theyre better then Mexico?I dont agree, but I have said its reasonable.What I dont agree with is u guys talking all this crap and saying theyre Mexico's daddy.Who know's it couldve just been a cinderella run in 02' and they could go back to their 98' form.They need to show consistency before they can be considered Mexico's "daddy".
Regarding that one guy that said we will win the WC...wow one guy.I could find u one USA fan as well (dcunited), u claimed that all of us thought that way.You're wrong, u can find a few that are stupid (can be said for every country) but u wont find anything close to "all of us" who think like that as u claim.
ur an idiot man, i think u need to go to school and actually learn something. most south american team dont play mexico in wc's so if they do better against other teams what good is it? How does that exactly prove that they r better than conmebol teams? It doesnt. as u can see head to head match against US in the last WC USA won 2-0. and ur saying its a cinderella run?? u just cant think of anyother excuse can u? :lol: ur so pathetic man, they beat u in the most important cup of all, not any crappy gold cup, while u guys beat brazil bench teams, u know what.... Honduras beat Brazil in Copa America before as well, what does that mean? does it mean they can woop them in a WC? ur an idiot for even using that as an example, next time mexico beats Brazil in a WC let me know ok? moron :boo:
more ppl that think like me :
Exactly garaceg finnaly someone with sense, they are not one of the top teams in the world, that is what I tried to tell a few mexican fans who swear they are at the level of Brazil, Argentina and even Uruguay. To the southamericans they are more like Paraguay, Chile, Colombia. A bit better than them a bit worse at times but they are NOT a power, believe me.
Don't waste your time Guayo some of these Mexicans swear they are the best and won't give a second thought to it..
Now you know Chileno why i dont like the Mexican team, not because i'm racist but because of how much crap they talk. They seem to forget that some of the mexican league's best players are foreigners like Paraguay's Jose Cardozo or Chile's Reinaldo Navia..and i dont see any Mexican players in the guinness world record books like Paraguay's Jose Luis Chilavert plus they shouldnt talk about Chile either because Chile has a better WC record then Mexico..they been 3th place thats more then Mexico can say never having
passed the quarterfinals.
the only one thats retarted around here is you if you think Mexico is a world class team, eva heard the term of being a big fish in a small pond? thats all Mexico is in concacaf cause concacaf aint shit.
its amazing how mexico is the only country that brings their full squad to copa america and still cant win it. Here is the deal, once again this copa america will feature nothing but S.American B Teams. With the exeption of Costa rica and Mexico whom are bringing their full squads. NO EXCUSES, mexico HAS to reach finals against this B TEAMS. Im so sick of this mexican hype and im yet to actually see it come through. Enough with the talk, time to act. If you CANT each the finals it just shows you how BAD AND OVER-RATED you are at soccer.
ohya did I mention hav fun losing to USA again LOLOLOL.
Nice chat you guys got going on here.
I've been watching Mexico play these last few years and let me say that I'm don't believe their soccer level is as good as in South America.
I don't want to disrespect any Mexicans, but it's time to bring them back to reality, ever wonder how come Mexico qualifies to the World Cup everytime???
Well....of course......they get to play countries which show no power at all. Example: Trinidad y Tobago, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Canada, and other caribbean countries.
Ever wonder what would happened if Mexico joined the Conmebol to qualify to the WC????
Mexico would reach the WC maybe every 12 to 20 years, and that's qualifying as a forth or fifth place.
Any south american country would qualify to the WC if they were in Mexico's place.
And its true, the US has become a better team than Mexico in the last 10 years....
The only reason Mexico is over-rated among FIFA is because it is one of the few countries that have hosted the WC twice. The 2 best players of all time had their best tournament in their respective Mexico world cups, Pele in '70 and Maradona in '86. Maradona even scored the best goal ever (according to FIFA) in Mexico City.
You South Americans think that Mexico should not be rank #5 because you compete against them almost every year and know how they play. But the rest of the world only gets to see Mexico every 4 years, and if they see them beating the Croats, giving a hard time to Italy, Germany, and Holland; then they sort of believe FIFA and Mexico should be ranked up there, maybe not #5 but high up there.
To win the Wold Cup is almost impossible (if you are not Brazil or Argentina), So if you other South Americans-Mexico-haters want to gain international recognition and score points with FIFA, then host a world cup. If it is memorable your country will also be in the top of the chart for a while. It would be nice to see a Paraguay 2014 or Chile 2018..
I'll say US is a way better team than mexico will ever be. I am sick and tired of mexicans always thinking they are so great and blah blah blah just go to your place and get the f out of the copa america it is a south american competition you know and well you are up there. The same with copa libertadores what's the deal with mexican teams playing in south american tournaments.....
mexico wont pass to the next round, they will finish third in their group.
All great teams, France, Spain and Germany hasnt understimated their rivals, even if they got easy groups. Domenech told the press that nothing is written in soccer, klinsmann told that Costa Rica and Ecuador were great teams (but we know they arent, its part of being a gentleman and mantain yourself on the ground). But Mexico began to talk about they see themselves in 16s, its possible, but u dont have to understimate teams like Iran, and Angola (that sent Nigeria home), thats too bad, they said Angola and Iran were easy teams, and that words could cost their elimination.
They are overrated, of course FIFA ranked them there to put serbia with argentina or brazil. Holland deserved the top spot. And please doesnt say the 1 0 at confederations, no one cares about that cup, brazilians doesnt want to get injured and play at 20%. Im not american, but i dont like mexico.
there are just a few examples, i am excludin alot of ppl that put posts like handofgod, that made very good points. So am I alone in this?? do other ppl not think Mexico talks alot of shit and r not really as good as they say they r?? there u go buddy have fun. This is the last time I will say this cuz I have said this before, I think Mexico has a decent team, their ok but u guys think ur so superior, bring urselfs back down to reality, no i dont think they will lose to iran 4-0, i dont think they r the 10th place in the americas, but what other way r u gonna get it to ur thickhead, I disagree that they r third , but they "could" be 4th maybe or 5th or 6th but they r just good as other teams like Urugay, Colombia, Paragay, maybe sometimes worst, sometimes better but u guys arent a guaranteed 3,4,5 which is what i've been tryin to say since i started posting in this forum. If u want to believe that they r 3rd then go ahead, that is ur opinion, like i said before opinions r opinions and facts r facts.
ricoo9
12-18-2005, 07:28 PM
Congratulations SAO PAULO on winnin the World Championship!
unam_mx
12-18-2005, 07:32 PM
ur an idiot man, i think u need to go to school and actually learn something. most south american team dont play mexico in wc's so if they do better against other teams what good is it? How does that exactly prove that they r better than conmebol teams? It doesnt. as u can see head to head match against US in the last WC USA won 2-0. and ur saying its a cinderella run?? u just cant think of anyother excuse can u? :lol: ur so pathetic man, they beat u in the most important cup of all, not any crappy gold cup, while u guys beat brazil bench teams, u know what.... Honduras beat Brazil in Copa America before as well, what does that mean? does it mean they can woop them in a WC? ur an idiot for even using that as an example, next time mexico beats Brazil in a WC let me know ok? moron :boo:
So just cause they dont face off in the WC, it discredits what Mexico does...yeah some of them arent there, but what about the South American teams that are there in their places.How many of them can say they consistently get out of the group stage like Mexico?Again, its by no means a big accomplisment if u look at the big picture...but it certainly is one when u compare it to the teams we are comparing them to.
As for the USA...where's Senegal or Turkey?What happened in 02' to the semi-finalists Croatia from 98'?Where's Greece, the UEFA champion?Sometimes teams get lucky, not saying this is the case with the USA but u also cant say that it isnt.They have to show consistency, because of one good run in the WC and one win against Mexico theyre all of a sudden their daddy?Let's see what they do in Germany and in South Africa first before we can give them that honor.
OK, Honduras beat Brasil once...a few other crap teams beat them once as well.Your point is?Give me another "crap" team (which u swear Mexico is) that has a 5-2-1 record against them, then u have a point...one game surprises dont matter just like one WC surprises dont either.The word is called consistency, learn it.
there are just a few examples, i am excludin alot of ppl that put posts like handofgod, that made very good points. So am I alone in this?? do other ppl not think Mexico talks alot of shit and r not really as good as they say they r?? there u go buddy have fun. This is the last time I will say this cuz I have said this before, I think Mexico has a decent team, their ok but u guys think ur so superior, bring urselfs back down to reality, no i dont think they will lose to iran 4-0, i dont think they r the 10th place in the americas, but what other way r u gonna get it to ur thickhead, I disagree that they r third , but they "could" be 4th maybe or 5th or 6th but they r just good as other teams like Urugay, Colombia, Paragay, maybe sometimes worst, sometimes better but u guys arent a guaranteed 3,4,5 which is what i've been tryin to say since i started posting in this forum. If u want to believe that they r 3rd then go ahead, that is ur opinion, like i said before opinions r opinions and facts r facts.
Looks like those guys are so anti-Mexican because of a few stupid Mexicans...and again every country has their share of these unreasonable idiots...that feel Mexico is on the level of Arg and Bra.They, along with u, constantly say how Mexico is not the superpower that Mexicans claim they are.And again I ask, when have I said that?When has anyone in this thread said that?Unless the 3rd-5th teams in the Americas are superpowers which I very much doubt.
By the way, what is up with u guys generalizing all Mexicans because of what a couple of idiots say...I sure dont generalize all Peruvians into idiotic haters just cause of what u say.Learn to do that.
Opinions are opinions and facts are facts...but isnt it funny how my opinion is nothing more then just that, an opinion.But your opinion is always a fact in ur eyes, how strange. :rolleyes:
ricoo9
12-18-2005, 07:46 PM
By the way, what is up with u guys generalizing all Mexicans because of what a couple of idiots say...I sure dont generalize all Peruvians into idiotic haters just cause of what u say.Learn to do that.
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well its hard not to when 90% of u guys think that way, but yeah there r a few exeptions i have seen on this forum
unam_mx
12-18-2005, 07:55 PM
well its hard not to when 90% of u guys think that way, but yeah there r a few exeptions i have seen on this forum
Yeah sure, 90%... :rolleyes:
Nowhere near that number thinks that way ur just a hater...you have a problem with anything remotely positive that anyone has to say about Mexico.They beat Hungary 2-0, u post a meaningless post about how the goals were by naturlized Argentinians and Brasilians (who werent even there).Anything about Mexico, ur there bashing them.We make u post those meaningless posts?Nope.You just choose to because u hate Mexico because of a few Mexicans.
The guy that took ur manhood and these unreasonable idiots that make all Mexicans look bad do not reflect all Mexicans...get that through ur head.
ricoo9
12-18-2005, 08:28 PM
Yeah sure, 90%... :rolleyes:
Nowhere near that number thinks that way ur just a hater...you have a problem with anything remotely positive that anyone has to say about Mexico.They beat Hungary 2-0, u post a meaningless post about how the goals were by naturlized Argentinians and Brasilians (who werent even there).Anything about Mexico, ur there bashing them.We make u post those meaningless posts?Nope.You just choose to because u hate Mexico because of a few Mexicans.
The guy that took ur manhood and these unreasonable idiots that make all Mexicans look bad do not reflect all Mexicans...get that through ur head.
I was predicting the 2-0 btw, I knew it was gonna be the score but i thought ur best players were gonna play that day (Arg&Brazilian) which they didnt. I got everything else right though and Today I predict Boca 4 - Pumas 1 :rapture:
unam_mx
12-18-2005, 08:43 PM
I was predicting the 2-0 btw, I knew it was gonna be the score but i thought ur best players were gonna play that day (Arg&Brazilian) which they didnt. I got everything else right though and Today I predict Boca 4 - Pumas 1 :rapture:
So what, u still made it in a negative manner...and quit saying theyre our best players.Sinha will not make it to Germany, and Franco might as a bench player.Big deal.Germany, Japan, Portugal, USA, and who knows how many other countries have naturalized players that are key starters...not just bench players like Mexico.
Boca vs. Pumas...here's a wager.Boca wins I have 'Mexico Sucks' on my signature for a week with a Boca pic or whatever, Pumas wins u have 'Viva Mexico" with a Pumas pic for two weeks since Boca has the advantage of playing at home.Just a friendly wager, what do u say?
ricoo9
12-18-2005, 08:51 PM
Boca vs. Pumas...here's a wager.Boca wins I have 'Mexico Sucks' on my signature for a week with a Boca pic or whatever, Pumas wins u have 'Viva Mexico" with a Pumas pic for two weeks since Boca has the advantage of playing at home.Just a friendly wager, what do u say?
U got a deal man, today sunday December 18 at 3:51 pm I accept ur wager. :smoking:
ricoo9
12-18-2005, 11:53 PM
ok the best team win
ricoo9
12-19-2005, 01:25 AM
8:25pm GOOOOOLLLL!!!!
jesuslomas15
12-19-2005, 01:31 AM
calm down they been down before poser team hopper
jesuslomas15
12-19-2005, 02:16 AM
goallllllllllllllllllllllllllllll f*ck ricoo and were gona win u sh*t
ricoo9
12-19-2005, 03:16 AM
boca Campeon!!!!!! :lol: :rolleyes: :shocked: :lol: :D :ronaldo::deadhorse:fencing:
ricoo9
12-19-2005, 05:54 AM
goallllllllllllllllllllllllllllll f*ck ricoo and were gona win u sh*t
NO, ***K U BOCA WON BIATCH< MEXICO SUCKS!!!
mawin312
12-19-2005, 08:57 AM
NO, ***K U BOCA WON BIATCH< MEXICO SUCKS!!!
Hmm... thought u didnt hate Mexico. :confused: :lol: :lie:
dcunited1
12-19-2005, 10:13 AM
NO, ***K U BOCA WON BIATCH< MEXICO SUCKS!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: LOL
Iguess you prooved your point!!! :first:
tronxz28
12-19-2005, 04:18 PM
So if that proved his point then the dc united got eliminated in the 16 round ... so then ... that means that the usa sucks to the 4th power ?
RojINeGrO5051
12-19-2005, 04:48 PM
conmebol once again rapes mexico :rolleyes: n the ass
chaymin
12-19-2005, 05:42 PM
What a crock. I don't know why FMF still participates in this tournament. It's a South American tournament with South American refs that are always partial to the South American team. In a game this big... why do you not red card the goalie when he is clearly outside his box and blocks the ball with his hands? The first penalty kick that was shot by Pumas and was blocked... only thing was the goalie had clearly taken a few steps forward.
I'm not a Pumas fan. But I do believe they got cheated... as have Chivas, America, Cruz Azul, and now Pumas.
tronxz28
12-19-2005, 05:57 PM
and Santos !!! remember that game against river plate in buenos aires...
ricoo9
12-19-2005, 06:50 PM
What a crock. I don't know why FMF still participates in this tournament. It's a South American tournament with South American refs that are always partial to the South American team. In a game this big... why do you not red card the goalie when he is clearly outside his box and blocks the ball with his hands? The first penalty kick that was shot by Pumas and was blocked... only thing was the goalie had clearly taken a few steps forward.
I'm not a Pumas fan. But I do believe they got cheated... as have Chivas, America, Cruz Azul, and now Pumas.
WTF??? IF the ref was all for Boca then he would of never called that Hand ball that btw was unintentional, it wasnt even on purpose and he still called it...wtf.....It was a great game, nobody got favored, if anything pumas got a free goal from that unintentional hand
ricoo9
12-19-2005, 07:04 PM
UNAM where is ur signature saying Mexico sucks!! i dont see it! :ronaldo:
PunkguyEG
12-19-2005, 08:26 PM
WTF??? IF the ref was all for Boca then he would of never called that Hand ball that btw was unintentional, it wasnt even on purpose and he still called it...wtf.....It was a great game, nobody got favored, if anything pumas got a free goal from that unintentional hand
It is true. Mexicans always find excuses when they lose. It is normal, so don't worry about it. they lost anyways!
:lol: :boo:
tronxz28
12-19-2005, 08:35 PM
You have to be objective... not just say thing for saying...
The hand was a clear penalty... you cannot have ur arm that extended from the body...
even the argentinian narrators were mentioning that it was a clear penalty and the also made it clear that the goal keeper from boca had to be shown a red card...
but at the end is ok... It was a mexican team in the final...
ricoo9
12-19-2005, 08:43 PM
You have to be objective... not just say thing for saying...
The hand was a clear penalty... you cannot have ur arm that extended from the body...
even the argentinian narrators were mentioning that it was a clear penalty and the also made it clear that the goal keeper from boca had to be shown a red card...
but at the end is ok... It was a mexican team in the final...
IF the ref was against the mexicans then there is no way he would of called that penalty which was the point i was tryin to make, it goes btw the ref perceives the play and if he wanted to favor boca he didnt need to call it, it would of been a polemic play, nobody got favored, unam just trying to make excuses cuz they lost
unam_mx
12-19-2005, 11:25 PM
IF the ref was against the mexicans then there is no way he would of called that penalty which was the point i was tryin to make, it goes btw the ref perceives the play and if he wanted to favor boca he didnt need to call it, it would of been a polemic play, nobody got favored, unam just trying to make excuses cuz they lost
He called the penalty, well it was very obvious...but completely ignore that play and look at the other play.Give me one reasonable reason for why he didnt throw out the goalie.Why did he have to go consult with his assistant when he had already called a foul/handball oustide of the box?I can only imagine what they said:
ref: "What should I do?"
assistant: "Dont throw him out that will leave Boca in a tough position, our superiors have made themselves clear.We dont want a Mexican team winning a Conmebol even.Just show him the yellow card."
Im just joking but seriously what did he even have to go to his assistant for?Whatever call he made, handball or foul, warranted a red card there was no need to get a second opinion.
chaymin
12-19-2005, 11:55 PM
WTF??? IF the ref was all for Boca then he would of never called that Hand ball that btw was unintentional, it wasnt even on purpose and he still called it...wtf.....It was a great game, nobody got favored, if anything pumas got a free goal from that unintentional hand
If it were the other way around... you'd be complaining... and then your buddy PunkguyEG would post to back you up...
:boo:
Armand
12-20-2005, 03:26 AM
More bashing from anti mexican people I'm glad the thread is very much alive. All I wan't to say is the U.S will finish dead last in Germany O.K bye
RojINeGrO5051
12-20-2005, 04:06 AM
MEXICO- Los directivos mexicanos podrían analizar su deserción de la Copa Libertadores y la Sudamericana, torneos en los cuales han tenido buenos resultados, pero son maltratados, según el presidente del club Cruz Azul, Guillermo Alvarez.
En declaraciones a los medios este lunes, Alvarez dijo que sería bueno analizar la permanencia en competencias en Suramérica, y si se decide no continuar, los medios debían apoyarla y no reclamar después la falta de roce internacional.
"Es importante ese análisis, mientras no hay que quejarse, sólo adaptarse a patadas, manotazos, pisotones y empujones como le hicieron ayer en la Sudamericana a Ismael Iñiguez en una jugada en la que debieron expulsar al portero del Boca Juniors", señaló.
Alvarez se preguntó si vale la pena adquirir roce a costa de lo que sea y reafirmó que económicamente a los mexicanos no le conviene nunca competir en América del Sur.
El directivo reconoció que la participación de México en la Libertadores y la Sudamericana ha ayudado a divulgar el fútbol del país, pero se mostró inconforme con el trato recibido y por las decisiones de los oficiales desde 1998 cuando el país debutó en la Libertadores.
"Se ha dado a conocer el fútbol mexicano, pero tampoco esto ha servido como vitrina para exportar jugadores a Europa; sólo se llevaron a Francisco Palencia en el 2001 y fue de préstamo al club Espanyol de Barcelona", recordó.
El desenlace de la final de la Sudamericana entre el Boca Juniors de Argentina y los Pumas de México ha sido la comidilla de los medios mexicanos, inconformes por el cambio de fecha de la serie, beneficioso para los xeneises, y críticos con las decisiones de los árbitros que, según sostienen, anularon un gol a Pumas en el partido de ida y perdonaron una expulsión al Boca en el de vuelta
Guillermo Alvarez confirmó que en las primeras horas del año nuevo el Cruz Azul viajará a Estados Unidos a participar en la eliminatoria de la Libertadores del 2006, pero adelantó que la prioridad de la temporada será ganar el torneo de Liga.
Cruz Azul es el equipo mexicano de mayores logros en la Libertadores; en el 2001 perdió la final ante el Boca Juniors en serie de penaltis luego de imponerse como visitante en la "Bombonera" de Buenos Aires, y en el 2003 fue eliminado en cuartos de final, 2-3 por el Santos de Brasil.
Para la Libertadores del 2006 el primer equipo mexicano clasificado ha sido los Pumas de la UNAM y los otros dos boletos se los disputarán Pachuca, Veracruz, Monterrey, Morelia; Cruz Azul, Necaxa, Tigres y Guadalajara.
El campeón de la preliminar accederá de manera directa al torneo continental y el segundo lugar, participará en una repesca por otro boleto.
ricoo9
12-20-2005, 08:16 AM
He called the penalty, well it was very obvious...but completely ignore that play and look at the other play.Give me one reasonable reason for why he didnt throw out the goalie.Why did he have to go consult with his assistant when he had already called a foul/handball oustide of the box?I can only imagine what they said:
ref: "What should I do?"
assistant: "Dont throw him out that will leave Boca in a tough position, our superiors have made themselves clear.We dont want a Mexican team winning a Conmebol even.Just show him the yellow card."
Im just joking but seriously what did he even have to go to his assistant for?Whatever call he made, handball or foul, warranted a red card there was no need to get a second opinion.
U know what UNAM ??, U put peru sux in ur signature but A modest team from Peru (cienciano) Won the Sudamericana 2 years ago, THey only lost 1 game in the entire cup and beat river in the finals back to back then went on to beat Boca in the RECOPA just shows u guys will never win anything and wont amount to anything cuz all u guys know how to do is talk garbage.
The only thing u can do is make excuses for losing :lol: that is all u have! :lol: :rolleyes: It doesnt matter if the "handball" was obvious or not, if the ref wanted to favor boca he wouldnt have called it Period! thats final on that... I have seen worst games where it really looks like favoritism but he actually favored u on a unintentional play, wether or not it was in the area or w/e u wanna say, he could of kept the game goin but he decided to call penalty and so favored pumas.... I was watching an international channel and even they said it shouldnt have been a penalty, and at the end Abondanzieri wasnt even the last player , that isnt the first game where i see that happen and they receive a yellow and not a red, so u shouldnt make a big deal out of it, at least u guys made it far and even got a free goal from the ref, something that shouldnt of happened, especially if he is "favoring" boca, wether or not it was cleary intentional or unintentional, so dont complain, that game was played fair and square
Ronni
12-20-2005, 10:52 AM
MEXICO- Los directivos mexicanos podrían analizar su deserción de la Copa Libertadores y la Sudamericana, torneos en los cuales han tenido buenos resultados, pero son maltratados, según el presidente del club Cruz Azul, Guillermo Alvarez.
...
tss tss ...
nobody loves me ...
Am I a cucaracha or a yankee?
Or am I just acting paranoic?
unam_mx
12-20-2005, 04:21 PM
tss tss ...
nobody loves me ...
Am I a cucaracha or a yankee?
Or am I just acting paranoic?
Not sure u feel this way, Im speaking in general...but u have to be blind to not see that Mexican teams are treated differently then Conmebol teams are.You dont even have to look past this yr:
Libertadores--Chivas, whose players were paticipating in the local league, many in the NT, as well as the Libertadores asked if the dates could be changed...unlike with Boca they declined because the dates were "set" and had to be respected.Then when all hell broke lose at La Bombonera cause Boca couldnt handle the loss to Chivas, Conmebol suspend El Bofo as well as some other Chivas players from the semi-finals game.Vastly decreasing their chances of advancing.
Sudamericana--Unlike with Chivas, the dates this time are changed to accomodate Boca...without getting an opinion from Pumas nontheless.They also gave the second game to Boca which belonged to Pumas.Why?Because it wasnt 'South American territory'.Not to mention the refs which I wont even get into.
I hope they dont drop out of the competitions, it will make it that much sweeter when a Mexican teams wins one of these South American tournaments with everyone rooting against them...but the the bad treatment cant be ignored.Its there, noone can deny it.
ricoo9
12-20-2005, 05:13 PM
Not sure u feel this way, Im speaking in general...but u have to be blind to not see that Mexican teams are treated differently then Conmebol teams are.You dont even have to look past this yr:
Libertadores--Chivas, whose players were paticipating in the local league, many in the NT, as well as the Libertadores asked if the dates could be changed...unlike with Boca they declined because the dates were "set" and had to be respected.Then when all hell broke lose at La Bombonera cause Boca couldnt handle the loss to Chivas, Conmebol suspend El Bofo as well as some other Chivas players from the semi-finals game.Vastly decreasing their chances of advancing.
Sudamericana--Unlike with Chivas, the dates this time are changed to accomodate Boca...without getting an opinion from Pumas nontheless.They also gave the second game to Boca which belonged to Pumas.Why?Because it wasnt 'South American territory'.Not to mention the refs which I wont even get into.
I hope they dont drop out of the competitions, it will make it that much sweeter when a Mexican teams wins one of these South American tournaments with everyone rooting against them...but the the bad treatment cant be ignored.Its there, noone can deny it.
What Bad treatment r u talking about UNAM??? U have never seen a fight before??? WHAT ABOUT THE FIGHT AMERICA STARTED AGAINST SAO CAETANO??? R u trying to say that conmebol treated Chivas bad cuz of some boca players that started a fight? W/E!! its not like conmebol planned that fight to treat chivas bad or something and they can change the dates for whatever reason they want, u cant only use that and then say u guys r being unfavored. IF there wouldnt have been a fight U would have no argument.
The boca coach got fired along with alot of suspensions from boca, its not like Bofo didnt deserve it! IT WAS THANKS TO BOFO THAT THE WHOLE FIGHT STARTED TO BEGIN WITH..... he was the one taunting Palermo, ITS JUST, THAT HE GOT SUSPENDED, cuz if he hadnt done that THere wouldnt have been a fight or a escupida or anything for that manner. :boo:
U know what UNAM ??, U put peru sux in ur signature but A modest team from Peru (cienciano) Won the Sudamericana 2 years ago, THey only lost 1 game in the entire cup and beat river in the finals back to back then went on to beat Boca in the RECOPA just shows u guys will never win anything and wont amount to anything cuz all u guys know how to do is talk garbage.
The only thing u can do is make excuses for losing that is all u have! It doesnt matter if the "handball" was obvious or not, if the ref wanted to favor boca he wouldnt have called it Period! thats final on that... I have seen worst games where it really looks like favoritism but he actually favored u on a unintentional play, wether or not it was in the area or w/e u wanna say, he could of kept the game goin but he decided to call penalty and so favored pumas.... I was watching an international channel and even they said it shouldnt have been a penalty, and at the end Abondanzieri wasnt even the last player , that isnt the first game where i see that happen and they receive a yellow and not a red, so u shouldnt make a big deal out of it, at least u guys made it far and even got a free goal from the ref, something that shouldnt of happened, especially if he is "favoring" boca, wether or not it was cleary intentional or unintentional, so dont complain, that game was played fair and square
unam_mx
12-20-2005, 05:56 PM
Yes, El Bofo is a cocky arrogant mofo that shouldnt have been taunting in the first place...but that doesnt mean that Palermo has the right to start a fight.Taunting happens alot, u got to learn how to handle urself when ur winning and especially when ur losing.Both players need to learn that.But Conmebol suspended a couple of other Chivas guys other then Bautista, and all El Bofo did was taunt anyways...he didnt get into it.That suspension was alittle too much if u ask me.I definitely dont think they planned the fight, but the way they handled it by issuing the punishments was not very fair.
You also are correct about them being able to change the dates whenever they want to...of course thats obvious.Its their tournament after all.What I have a problem with however, is that they changed the dates to accomodate Boca in the Sudamericana and on top of it didnt even ask for an opinion from Pumas.But when Chivas asked for the same thing in the Libertadores they didnt change them because the dates were set and had to be respected.Yes, they have the right to change them whenever they want to but they can atleast try to be fair.They also gave the 2nd game, which belonged to Pumas, to Boca because CU is not South American Territory.
p.s. Peru still sucks...dont even compare their league to ours even if they did win the Sudamericana.Theyve been participating in it for a long time, we've just recently begun.
unam_mx
12-20-2005, 05:56 PM
Yes, El Bofo is a cocky arrogant mofo that shouldnt have been taunting in the first place...but that doesnt mean that Palermo has the right to start a fight.Taunting happens alot, u got to learn how to handle urself when ur winning and especially when ur losing.Both players need to learn that.But Conmebol suspended a couple of other Chivas guys other then Bautista, and all El Bofo did was taunt anyways...he didnt get into it.That suspension was alittle too much if u ask me.I definitely dont think they planned the fight, but the way they handled it by issuing the punishments was not very fair.
Youre also are correct about them being able to change the dates whenever they want to...of course thats obvious.Its their tournament after all.What I have a problem with however, is that they changed the dates to accomodate Boca in the Sudamericana and on top of it didnt even ask for an opinion from Pumas.But when Chivas asked for the same thing in the Libertadores they didnt change them because the dates were set and had to be respected.Yes, they have the right to change them whenever they want to but they can atleast try to be fair.They also gave the 2nd game, which belonged to Pumas, to Boca because CU is not South American Territory.
p.s. Peru still sucks...dont even compare their league to ours even if they did win the Sudamericana.Theyve been participating in it for a long time, we've just recently begun.
ricoo9
12-20-2005, 06:11 PM
p.s. Peru still sucks...dont even compare their league to ours even if they did win the Sudamericana.Theyve been participating in it for a long time, we've just recently begun.
That was the first time ever that CIENCIANO partiipated in that CUP and WON it Almost UNDEFEATED, Only losing ONE game in the Process and then did something pumas couldnt do, BEAT BOCA in the RECOPA with bocas FUll squad :lol: They only needed to participate ONCE to win the cup :lol: ANd that was actually the only time they have been in that cup, but unlike mexican teams they (peruvian Team) won IT!@ :D
ricoo9
12-20-2005, 06:29 PM
HEY UNAM I"M GLAD TO SEE U ADMIT MEXICO SUCKS!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ese_Guy
12-20-2005, 09:42 PM
It is true. Mexicans always find excuses when they lose. It is normal, so don't worry about it. they lost anyways!
:lol: :boo::rolleyes:
Ronni
12-21-2005, 10:53 AM
They also gave the 2nd game, which belonged to Pumas, to Boca because CU is not South American Territory.
Give me a break! There are rules in the Copa Sudamericana that everyone knows from the beginning. Ok, you're right that a mexican team has a different treatment here, but it's minimal (and is it a disadvantage at all?), and is nothing compared to the disadvantage that Atletico-PR had for not even playing any leg of the Libertadores final in their own stadium, a stadium that is considered one of the best ones in Brazil.
This fact of not playing only the very last match of the "South America Cup" outside South America (I didn't even know that rule) may have an influence (which nobody is sure if it's even negative), but to use it in order to say that mexicans aren't treated accordingly is something I can't respect at all.
If the mexican teams keep on affirming this, I hope that Conmebol simply stop inviting them. Crap-complaining guests aren't welcome anywere.
I was always very happy that Mexico finally started participating in South American football events, since I consider this is where they belong to. But if these comments of the mexican clubs go on, I will be sure they don't feel themselves integrated in South American football and proving to be the paranoic "ugly ducklings" according to the feelings they may have towards their north neighboors (a reality that really has nothing to do with South America), and I will be one more fan wanting them to get back to their Taco Bell Cups and Burrito Championships with their mates from Guatemala, Costa Rica and co.
unam_mx
12-21-2005, 03:45 PM
Give me a break! There are rules in the Copa Sudamericana that everyone knows from the beginning. Ok, you're right that a mexican team has a different treatment here, but it's minimal (and is it a disadvantage at all?), and is nothing compared to the disadvantage that Atletico-PR had for not even playing any leg of the Libertadores final in their own stadium, a stadium that is considered one of the best ones in Brazil.
This fact of not playing only the very last match of the "South America Cup" outside South America (I didn't even know that rule) may have an influence (which nobody is sure if it's even negative), but to use it in order to say that mexicans aren't treated accordingly is something I can't respect at all.
If the mexican teams keep on affirming this, I hope that Conmebol simply stop inviting them. Crap-complaining guests aren't welcome anywere.
I was always very happy that Mexico finally started participating in South American football events, since I consider this is where they belong to. But if these comments of the mexican clubs go on, I will be sure they don't feel themselves integrated in South American football and proving to be the paranoic "ugly ducklings" according to the feelings they may have towards their north neighboors (a reality that really has nothing to do with South America), and I will be one more fan wanting them to get back to their Taco Bell Cups and Burrito Championships with their mates from Guatemala, Costa Rica and co.
With the way Pumas plays at CU, it wouldve certainly made a difference...and maybe saying that is bad treatment is indeed going too far.But the other examples I feel are clear, changing the dates to accomodate Boca without getting an opinion from Pumas.Maybe that wouldnt have been so bad if they had done the same and changed the dates to accomodate Chivas in the Libertadores...but they didnt because the dates were 'set' and 'had to be respected'.So where was that logic this time?What other reason must we assume other then Boca are Conmebol's darling and Chivas is just some Mexican invitee?Wouldnt u feel the same if they did that to one of ur teams?Its hard not to.
Anyways, I too think that they should continue playing in these tournaments...despite how I feel of the treatment.It is helping raise our level and its only a matter of time before a Mexican team wins one of these tournaments anyway.The presidents of teams and the FMF need to drop this and let it go, deal with the adversity.
Carioca
12-21-2005, 05:50 PM
US VS
Colombia 3-0 W Noonan, Marshall, Mathis Fullerton, Calif.
Honduras 1-0 W Johnson Albuquerque, N.M.
Mexico * 1-2 L Lewis Mexico City, Mexico
Guatemala * 2-0 W Johnson, Ralston Birmingham, Ala.
England 1-2 L Dempsey Chicago, Ill.
Costa Rica * 3-0 W Donovan (2), McBride Salt Lake City, Utah
Panama * 3-0 W Bocanegra, Donovan, McBride Panama City, Panama
Cuba + 4-1 W Dempsey, Donovan (2), Beasley Seattle, Wash.
Canada + 2-0 W own goal, Donovan Seattle, Wash.
Costa Rica + 0-0 T Foxboro, Mass. 15,211
Jamaica + 3-1 W Wolff, Beasley (2) Foxboro, Mass.
Honduras + 2-1 W O'Brien, Onyweu E. Rutherford, N.J.
Panama + 0-0 T (3-1 pk) E. Rutherford, N.J.
T & T * 1-0 W McBride E. Hartford, Conn.
Mexico * 2-0 W Ralston, Beasley Columbus, Ohio
Guatemala * 0-0 T Guatemala City,
Costa Rica * 0-3 L San Jose, Costa Rica
Panama * 2-0 W Martino, Twellman Foxboro, Mass.
IS US REALLY BETTER THAN MEXICO???????? DON"T THINK SO
Wow u guys don't know scrap about futebol, all you're doing is showing hate, a couple of ridiculous coments had been posted C'mon do Brasileiros are with Mexico cause with out Mexico the level of the North would be like Oceania or Africa. The point is that not only because US HAS BEEN BEATING MEXICO LATELY u can't consider the yankes to be better NO WAY. Mexico has been beating de VERDE AMARELLA since the 90s Including the finals of a couple of important tournaments, THAT DOESNT MEAN THAT MEXICO IS BETTER THAN BRAZIL U IDIOTS!! And for the Peruvian guy please Shut The F...K up man your national team belongs to the caribean. :sad:
How inthe hecks mexico sucks?
US 1994
Italy - Ireland 0-1 (June 18, Giants Stadium)
Norway - Mexico 1-0 (June 19, Rfk Memorial)
Italy - Norway 1-0 (June 23, Giants Stadium)
Mexico - Ireland 2-1 (June 24, Citrus Bowl)
Italy - Mexico 1-1 (June 28, Rfk Memorial)
Ireland - Norway 0-0 (June 28, Giants Stadium
United States - Switzerland 1-1 (June 18, Pontiac Silverdome)
Colombia - Romania 1-3 (June 18, Rose Bowl)
Romania - Switzerland 1-4 (June 22, Pontiac Silverdome)
United States - Colombia 2-1 (June 22, Rose Bowl)
United States - Romania 0-1 (June 26, Rose Bowl)
Switzerland - Colombia 0-2
FRANCE 1998
Korea Republic - Mexico 1-3 (June 13, Gerland)
Netherlands - Belgium 0-0 (June 13, Stade De France)
Netherlands - Korea Republic 5-0 (June 20, Velodrome)
Belgium - Mexico 2-2 (June 20, Parc Lescure)
Belgium - Korea Republic 1-1 (June 25, Parc Des Princes)
Netherlands - Mexico 2-2 (June 25, Geoffroy-Guichard)
Yugoslavia - Iran 1-0 (June 14, Geoffroy-Guichard)
Germany - United States 2-0 (June 15, Parc Des Princes)
Germany - Yugoslavia 2-2 (June 21, Felix Bollaert)
United States - Iran 1-2 (June 21, Gerland)
Germany - Iran 2-0 (June 25, La Mosson)
United States - Yugoslavia 0-1 (June 25, La Beaujoire)
KOREA JAPAN 2002
Korea Republic - Poland 2-0 (June 4, Busan Asiad Main Stadium)
United States - Portugal 3-2 (June 5, Suwon World Cup Stadium)
Korea Republic - United States 1-1 (June 10, Daegu World Cup Stadium)
Portugal - Poland 4-0 (June 10, Jeonju World Cup Stadium)
Portugal - Korea Republic 0-1 (June 14, Incheon Munhak Stadium)
Poland - United States 3-1 (June 14, Daejeon World Cup Stadium)
Croatia - Mexico 0-1 (June 3, Niigata Stadium Big Swan)
Italy - Ecuador 2-0 (June 3, Sapporo Dome)
Italy - Croatia 1-2 (June 8, Ibaraki Kashima Stadium)
Mexico - Ecuador 2-1 (June 9, Miyagi Stadium)
Mexico - Italy 1-1 (June 13, Oita Stadium Big Eye)
Ecuador - Croatia 1-0 (June 13, International Stadium Yokohama)
Really does Mexico deserves 2 much shit??? Mexico hadn't have it easy in the past 3 WC but in all 3 always come to the top :mad2: so dot f...g hate they are the team after Argentina that can really put up a fight againt us from the Americas.
México 0 - 0 Suecia San Diego, CA., EUA
Costa Rica 1 - 2 México San José, Costa Rica
México 1 - 1 Colombia Culiacán, Sinaloa, Méx.
México 1 - 1 Argentina Fullerton, CA., EUA
México 2 -1 Estados Unidos Ciudad de México
Panamá 1 - 1 México Cd. de Panamá, Pan.
México 1 - 1 Polonia Chicago, IL., EUA
Guatemala 0 - 2 México Cd. de Guatemala, Gua.
México 2 - 0 T. & T. Monterrey, N.L., México
México 2 - 1 Japón Hannover, Alemania
México 1 - 0 Brasil Hannover, Alemania
México 0 - 0 Grecia Frankfurt, Alemania
México 1 - 1 Argentina Hannover, Alemania
México 3 - 4 Alemania Leipzig, Alemania
México 1 - 2 Sudáfrica Carson, CA., EUA
México 4 - 0 Guatemala Los Angeles, CA., EUA
México 1 - 0 Jamaica Houston, Tx., EUA
México 1 - 2 Colombia Houston, Tx., EUA
México 2 - 0 Costa Rica Ciudad de México
Estados Unidos 2 - 0 México Columbus, Oh., EUA
México 5 - 0 Panamá Ciudad de México
México 5 - 2 Guatemala San Luis Potosí, México
T. & T. 2 - 1 México Puerto España, T. y T.
México 3 - 1 Uruguay Guadalajara, Jal., México
México 0 - 3 Bulgaria Houston, Tx., EUA
México 2 - 0 Hungría Phoenix, Az., EUA
THESE ARE STATS 4 2005
FOOLS DO NOT UNDERSTIMATE NO ONE :yell: EVERYBODY BUSTED THEIR BALLS TO JOIN D CARNAVAL AND REMEMBER GOLIATH WAS DEFEATED BY DAVID. BRAZIL BRAZIL BRAZIL!!!!!!! WERE GOING FOR THE 6th
Carioca
12-21-2005, 06:22 PM
This are the stats of Mexico VS other nations overall
Selección Rival JJ JG JE JP GF GC
Ecuador 13 9 3 1 23 11
Egipto 4 2 1 1 8 4
El Salvador 25 21 1 3 77 14
Emiratos Arabes Unidos 1 0 1 0 2 2
Eslovaquia 1 1 0 0 5 2
Eslovenia 1 0 0 1 1 2
España 10 1 3 6 5 18
Estados Unidos 51 30 10 11 116 53
Estonia 1 1 0 0 6 0
Etiopía 1 1 0 0 3 0
Fiji 1 1 0 0 2 0
Finlandia 4 3 1 0 7 2
Francia 5 0 1 4 4 14
Grecia 3 1 2 0 2 1
Guatemala 25 16 6 3 53 26
Haití 8 6 2 0 22 2
Holanda 4 2 1 1 9 7
Honduras 22 15 5 2 48 15
Hungría 10 7 1 2 21 10
Inglaterra 9 2 1 6 3 24
Irán 1 1 0 0 2 1
Dont hate bothers everybody has a chance, I would love the final 8 to be:
HOLLAND, ENGLAND, MEXICO, CHEC REPUBLIC, GERMANY, ITALY, BRAZIL and FRANCE. Unfortunatelly I'll be surprised if 5 of this teams end up in quarterfinals :faint2:
BRAZIL BRAZIL BRAZIL!!!
BRAZIL BRAZIL BRAZIL!!!!!
ricoo9
12-21-2005, 09:24 PM
This are the stats of Mexico VS other nations overall
Selección Rival JJ JG JE JP GF GC
Ecuador 13 9 3 1 23 11
Egipto 4 2 1 1 8 4
El Salvador 25 21 1 3 77 14
Emiratos Arabes Unidos 1 0 1 0 2 2
Eslovaquia 1 1 0 0 5 2
Eslovenia 1 0 0 1 1 2
España 10 1 3 6 5 18
Estados Unidos 51 30 10 11 116 53
Estonia 1 1 0 0 6 0
Etiopía 1 1 0 0 3 0
Fiji 1 1 0 0 2 0
Finlandia 4 3 1 0 7 2
Francia 5 0 1 4 4 14
Grecia 3 1 2 0 2 1
Guatemala 25 16 6 3 53 26
Haití 8 6 2 0 22 2
Holanda 4 2 1 1 9 7
Honduras 22 15 5 2 48 15
Hungría 10 7 1 2 21 10
Inglaterra 9 2 1 6 3 24
Irán 1 1 0 0 2 1
Dont hate bothers everybody has a chance, I would love the final 8 to be:
HOLLAND, ENGLAND, MEXICO, CHEC REPUBLIC, GERMANY, ITALY, BRAZIL and FRANCE. Unfortunatelly I'll be surprised if 5 of this teams end up in quarterfinals :faint2:
BRAZIL BRAZIL BRAZIL!!!
BRAZIL BRAZIL BRAZIL!!!!!
ALright UNAM, IF u say so :lol:
RojINeGrO5051
12-21-2005, 09:28 PM
yep yep :lol:
RojINeGrO5051
12-21-2005, 09:31 PM
Give me a break! There are rules in the Copa Sudamericana that everyone knows from the beginning. Ok, you're right that a mexican team has a different treatment here, but it's minimal (and is it a disadvantage at all?), and is nothing compared to the disadvantage that Atletico-PR had for not even playing any leg of the Libertadores final in their own stadium, a stadium that is considered one of the best ones in Brazil.
This fact of not playing only the very last match of the "South America Cup" outside South America (I didn't even know that rule) may have an influence (which nobody is sure if it's even negative), but to use it in order to say that mexicans aren't treated accordingly is something I can't respect at all.
If the mexican teams keep on affirming this, I hope that Conmebol simply stop inviting them. Crap-complaining guests aren't welcome anywere.
I was always very happy that Mexico finally started participating in South American football events, since I consider this is where they belong to. But if these comments of the mexican clubs go on, I will be sure they don't feel themselves integrated in South American football and proving to be the paranoic "ugly ducklings" according to the feelings they may have towards their north neighboors (a reality that really has nothing to do with South America), and I will be one more fan wanting them to get back to their Taco Bell Cups and Burrito Championships with their mates from Guatemala, Costa Rica and co.
r u serious :lol: o man if conmebol stop inviting mexico they will generate less money on tv rights ass :lol: oman people these days
ricoo9
12-21-2005, 09:49 PM
r u serious :lol: o man if conmebol stop inviting mexico they will generate less money on tv rights ass :lol: oman people these days
yeah everbody is wrong and ur the only one thats right :rolleyes: Even UNAM admited that mexicans should stop whinin
ricoo9
12-21-2005, 09:51 PM
It would be no surprise after all this Whining and Complainin if A mexican team wins the libertadores or sudamericana.... what u guys need to do is stop being babys, ur not as good as u think u r and u just have to realize it :boo:
RojINeGrO5051
12-21-2005, 09:52 PM
yeah everbody is wrong and ur the only one thats right :rolleyes: Even UNAM admited that mexicans should stop whinin
i am right and y do u care bout mexican teams anyways ??? :star:
RojINeGrO5051
12-21-2005, 09:54 PM
It would be no surprise after all this Whining and Complainin if A mexican team wins the libertadores or sudamericana.... what u guys need to do is stop being babys, ur not as good as u think u r and u just have to realize it :boo:
yeah u guys are so good when u keep telling the ref's not to let us win
cause u know as well as I that when we win 1 of them down there all the teams particpating well be the laughing stock :rolleyes:
ricoo9
12-21-2005, 09:56 PM
yeah u guys are so good when u keep telling the ref's not to let us win
cause u know as well as I that when we win 1 of them down there all the teams particpating well be the laughing stock :rolleyes:
no comment man, u gota grow up
RojINeGrO5051
12-21-2005, 10:17 PM
no comment man, u gota grow up
me !!!!ur just a shittalker man what are u 13!!12!!
who has no knoweledge of the game :sad:
unam_mx
12-21-2005, 10:20 PM
ALright UNAM, IF u say so :lol:
No dude, I dont do imitations of u...I dont need to sign up as other people to get someone to agree with me.I would never go down to ur level, ask a super-mod to look at the IP addresses if u'd like. :boo:
ricoo9
12-21-2005, 10:33 PM
me !!!!ur just a shittalker man what are u 13!!12!!
who has no knoweledge of the game :sad:
Yeah i dont know shit about the sport? i think ur the one that makes ppl laugh :lol: :lol: :lol:
RojINeGrO5051
12-22-2005, 12:53 AM
Yeah i dont know shit about the sport? i think ur the one that makes ppl laugh :lol: :lol: :lol:
u dont know shit :lol: ever since u said libertad is better than monterrey .........wait no when u said mexico sucks ........wait no when u said that south american teams dont cheat out mexicans ...like i said u dont know shit :lol: :lol:
:sad: silly clown
ricoo9
12-22-2005, 02:25 AM
Jared, ni a la banca
18-Dic-05
Sam Allardyce parece haber degradado al mexicano a tercera o cuarta opción entre sus delanteros.
El 4-0 fue una buena noticia para el Bolton, pésima para Borgetti. Foto: AP
El asunto se pone cada vez más triste. Con el de ayer ya son cuatro partidos de Liga Premier en los que Jared Borgetti no aparece ni siquiera en el banco de suplentes del Bolton.
A pesar de ser el segundo mejor goleador del equipo (cuatro goles), el entrenador, Sam Allardyce, parece haber degradado al mexicano a tercera o cuarta opción entre sus delanteros. Primero está Kevin Davies. Después, otra vez, El tractor Kevin Davies. Luego vienen el temperamental Diouf y, ahora, hasta el enrachado joven portugués, Ricardo Vaz Te. Esto obliga a Jared a ver los partidos desde la tribuna, sin duda, un escenario desolador para un futbolista de su categoría.
Pero el problema no es que Big Sam disfrute jugar con un centro delantero que se la pasa fastidiando a los defensas y que tira a gol una vez por partido –como lo es Davies–, sino que la visita del sábado a Goodison Park terminó por reforzar las ideas del entrenador. El 4-0 sobre el Everton, con el primer gol de Davies en los últimos 15 partidos de Liga, enfría aún más las opciones del mexicano.
“El último mes no ha sido fácil. No he jugado nada. No he salido a la banca en los últimos cuatro partidos de Liga. He jugado apenas un rato en la Carling Cup y nada más, en este mes, prácticamente, no he tenido acción”, lamentó Borgetti.
Mientras tanto, Sam Allardyce se pasea por los túneles de Goodison Park con un humor inusitado. Bromea con la prensa, saluda a todo el mundo y asegura que su equipo ha ofrecido la mejor exhibición ofensiva de la temporada.
Está claro que el gol de Davies le ha quitado presión y refuerza su posición de mantenerlo en el 11 inicial. “Todos mis jugadores quieren ser titulares, pero el equipo está ganando y los que ya tienen el puesto no quieren soltarlo. Afortunadamente hay mucha competencia en este plantel. Borgetti trabaja fuerte, igual que el resto, pero no ha logrado adaptarse completamente al equipo, y en general a la vida en Inglaterra, eso le está costando”, concluyó Big Sam, en una tarde en la que los cuatro goles del Bolton cancelaban, por sí solos, cualquier cuestionamiento.
Con todo y esto, el cierre de año será frenético para el Bolton y Jared podría arañar algunos minutos. Por lo pronto, este martes, los Trotters visitarán al Wigan, en los cuartos de final de la Carling Cup.
BORGETTI IS THE BEST MEXICAN FOWARD!!! JAJAJAJAJAJA :lol: :sad: :boo: :faint2: :D :ronaldo: :smoking:
arcturus rex
12-22-2005, 05:54 AM
This seems to be a contest for the most infantile mentality....
No, wait, that's an insult to children...
Let me rephrase:
You are all stupid, no matter where you are from.
Carioca
12-22-2005, 03:47 PM
C'mon why all the hate? ricoo u're fu..ing stupid what have the Mexicans done for you to love them so much? As much as we hate the Argentinians we still don't talk shit about them, and the reson we don't like them is because they are like you THEY TALK TOO MUCH SHIT!! If they win they try to degrade the opponent as even compared themselves to Europeans playing against Indigenous people WHAT THE FU.K? (are they talking about Peru?) yo but when they lose O MY GOD they even blame their mothers for not coocking the right breakfast prior to the game.
Ricoo grow up and enjoy the game
UNAM don't make a fool of yourself by arguing with a child
BRAZIL BRAZIL BRAZIL!!!!!!
Whatch DIDA kill the tournament :lol: Forza PALMEIRAS
Ese_Guy
12-22-2005, 04:36 PM
Good post Carioca (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/member.php?u=19789)!
Ignore the haters.
ricoo9
12-22-2005, 05:43 PM
C'mon why all the hate? ricoo u're fu..ing stupid what have the Mexicans done for you to love them so much? As much as we hate the Argentinians we still don't talk shit about them, and the reson we don't like them is because they are like you THEY TALK TOO MUCH SHIT!! If they win they try to degrade the opponent as even compared themselves to Europeans playing against Indigenous people WHAT THE FU.K? (are they talking about Peru?) yo but when they lose O MY GOD they even blame their mothers for not coocking the right breakfast prior to the game.
Ricoo grow up and enjoy the game
UNAM don't make a fool of yourself by arguing with a child
BRAZIL BRAZIL BRAZIL!!!!!!
Whatch DIDA kill the tournament :lol: Forza PALMEIRAS
I dont hate mexico, i just wanna knock some sense into these mexicans, and u talkin about argentinans, i feel the same way about mexicans, they will say their toothpaste affected the game , thats why they keep makin whole bunch of excuses for losing their games to boca, sao paulo, etc.....u guys need to open ur eyes
excuses, excuses, the ref did this the ref did that, comnebol conspiracy , blah blah blah :shocked: is just being babyish :boo:
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