Group F

[hrobatos]

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mi Hrvati!

[Milos_]

:D

you better pray that we dont play you:)

[SiN]

COME ON AUSTRALIA! i think they have a great chance against Japan in this group. They have a young and talented squad with players playing across the globe.

[kewell_RuLeS.]

australian fans will use the english fans as backup against the croatians lol,

i'm liking the banter between the fans, more respect being shown, i might change my sig soon!.

[tdr]

australian fans will use the english fans as backup against the croatians lol,

i'm liking the banter between the fans, more respect being shown, i might change my sig soon!.
it won't help you win games:lol:

[tdr]

i respect you though

[tdr]

Austolalia-jin wa totemo baka desu. :lol:
:lol: Wait.... What

[sydney_hajduk]

Australia has no chance at all they just dont got the class and the form has to be said. it will be Brazil Croatia or Brazil Japan [B]Go Croatia

[danster]

Japan's Samurai spirit will take them all the way. Show them what you've got Nippon!

[Ronni]

Japan's Samurai spirit will take them all the way. Show them what you've got Nippon!

I just hope they don't start killing themselves when they don't succeed!

[SiN]

Welcome back Ronni!

In this group aswell i think the team who comes out the freshest will succed, so we will see familiar faces in the Brazilian team but the Japanese, Croatian and Australian teams have changed some faces recently so i am full of expectations.

[danster]

I just hope they don't start killing themselves when they don't succeed!

Harakiri will not come into the equation as Japan will win for sure!

[brazuca5copas]

Australia has no chance at all they just dont got the class and the form has to be said. it will be Brazil Croatia or Brazil Japan [B]Go Croatia

Agreed !

[dannyd]

I was thinking

1. brazil
2. australia (underestimated team)

but after croatia played argentina I changed it to

1. brazil
2.croatia

The WC isnt in Japan, so they arent going far this time around.

Second Round Im predicting Czech vs. Brazil - Italy vs. Croatia (for the second time)

I think this is the 2nd toughest group next to argentinas group.

[Tickets]

there is no way known that Croatia is gonna even win 1 single game this cup

[Tickets]

I was thinking

1. brazil
2. australia (underestimated team)

but after croatia played argentina I changed it to

1. brazil
2.croatia

The WC isnt in Japan, so they arent going far this time around.

Second Round Im predicting Czech vs. Brazil - Italy vs. Croatia (for the second time)

I think this is the 2nd toughest group next to argentinas group.

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i am gonna be surprised if Croatia even make it out onto the pitch.....
nah it will be a cakewalk for the aussies
never change your tips.

[dannyd]

i am gonna be surprised if Croatia even make it out onto the pitch.....
nah it will be a cakewalk for the aussies
never change your tips.

I would be nice to see the Aussies advance. Matter of fact, I've told many people not to underestimate them, but Croatia is a great team.

[davor_suker]

i am gonna be surprised if Croatia even make it out onto the pitch.....
nah it will be a cakewalk for the aussies
never change your tips.

Truly an informed individual. :ronaldo:

Seriously though, both teams are good, and the ball is round so it can go anywhere on the pitch...all it takes is a defensive error here, a bit of luck there and you can be up 2-0. Thats what makes football so great.

However, I do find it strange some people rating Lucas Neill so highly. You gotta admit the boy isnt very talented, and the Australian defence as a whole isnt great, but hey I just hope for a great game.

Japan? They get good results, but the teamlist is a joke compared to any of the other teams in the group. I think Australia SHOULD beat Japan, their only real asset is Nakamura and their speed. I dont think that will be a match for the strength of Australia however.

[chilli21]

i say brazil and japan will make it to the next stage. australia was lucky that uragury wasn't fit at all to play. i haven't seen croatia play for a while but japan is really not bad even though they're not as good compare with other big teams.

[danster]

If you think Nakamura is Japan's only asset, you're a wrong. There is good depth in the midfield with Nakamura playing infront of Hidetoshi Nakata who is still a great player in my opinion, flanked by Ogasawara and Ono I believe, not sure on that. But Japan's midfield goes back further to Daisuke Matsui who is incredibly skillful, playing with Le Mans in France. Also got Ogasawara, who is a very good player aswell. Defence is solid with the tall Nakazawa and captain Miyamoto having played together for quite a long time. Santos plays a wing back role and is dangerous down the left. Not 100 percent on the right back though. Koji Nakata for FC Basel is always there too. Good experience goalkeeper in Kawaguchi. Our strikers are the main problem, although we have guys that can finish with the likes of Oguro I think who is a real talent, Takahara, Kubo, Sato, Yanagisawa if he's fit. I think it's actually quite a strong team on paper.

[tdr]

there is no way known that Croatia is gonna even win 1 single game this cup
they will win 2 which is more than enough:smoking:

[stralian]

Truly an informed individual. :ronaldo:

Seriously though, both teams are good, and the ball is round so it can go anywhere on the pitch...all it takes is a defensive error here, a bit of luck there and you can be up 2-0. Thats what makes football so great.

However, I do find it strange some people rating Lucas Neill so highly. You gotta admit the boy isnt very talented, and the Australian defence as a whole isnt great, but hey I just hope for a great game.

Japan? They get good results, but the teamlist is a joke compared to any of the other teams in the group. I think Australia SHOULD beat Japan, their only real asset is Nakamura and their speed. I dont think that will be a match for the strength of Australia however.

Why wouldn't you rate Neill highly. He is one of the main reasons why Blackburn are so high in EPL this season. He was the captain in the 1-0 win against Chelsea the other day and was picked for MOTM. Craig Moore has been the Newcastle's best player for the last two weeks aswell.

[purger]

The question remains how will they function together in the same team, and the entire Australian team aswell 'cause they don't play often together..

From what I understand, Australia played entire qualifications vs teams like Vanutau or something like that with mostly the players from A-League..

One thing here,in this group is certain, Croatia has the best supporters, Brasil best fans (expecially females :D )

[shawn7]

Just received my tickets for the Croatia / Japan game. Should be fun. Looking forward to it.


~shawn

[tdr]

It won be fun Purger will start trouble.

[tdr]

After he downs some of Ozujsko.

[Tickets]

The question remains how will they function together in the same team, and the entire Australian team aswell 'cause they don't play often together..

oh and the Croatian team does????? every time a loss result for Croatia is thrown into the ring for debate - all we hear from the winging croats is that it wasn't our A-side..boo hoo hoo:sad:

:fencing:

[los_ches]

oh and the Croatian team does????? every time a loss result for Croatia is thrown into the ring for debate - all we hear from the winging croats is that it wasn't our A-side..boo hoo hoo:sad:

:fencing:

LOLZ....dont every team do that. Nah Croatia are a good side,putting aside the friendly banter that goes on here. Ask any unbiased fan and most of them would say Croatia is better than Australia. In saying that it doesnt mean that much at the WC because on paper last WC France was a better team than Senegal and people said that the Senagal team was made up of French Division 2 players with a handful of solid players...how did that turn out. The match b/w Croatia and Aus will be a heated affair with maybe 3 red cards:red-card: Way to much resentment to have a quality game...lolz!!!

[Flame_cro]

You are right when you say that just because you are better on paper you will win the game. Anyone can win any match....so this means that Croatia can win the match against Brasil .....:)

P.S. I don't think there is going to be that many red card. There wasn't that much when we played against Serbia and Montenegro..(and you know how much we deslike each other). Croatia doesn't play "firm" football.

[hrobatos]

oh and the Croatian team does????? every time a loss result for Croatia is thrown into the ring for debate - all we hear from the winging croats is that it wasn't our A-side..boo hoo hoo:sad:

:fencing:

kojem ti kurcu sviraš?!

Croatia played every single qualification match with their A-team.. only games we didn't play with our A-team where those on Carlsberg Cup, against Korea and Hong Kong..

and about those teams which Australia played in qualifications.. my friends and I would probably beat them after one or two crates of Ožujsko (or Velebitsko, I'm not picky :D )

[Flame_cro]

kojem ti kurcu sviraš?!

Croatia played every single qualification match with their A-team.. only games we didn't play with our A-team where those on Carlsberg Cup, against Korea and Hong Kong..

and about those teams which Australia played in qualifications.. my friends and I would probably beat them after one or two crates of Ožujsko (or Velebitsko, I'm not picky

Great post..and so true. I can't agree more with you.
...and Australia will lose against us

[Wilinton]

#1: Brasil, fingers in nose and eyes closed.
#2: Croatia, underrated imho.
#3: Japan, will make the Croatians difficult to qualify.
#4: Australia, no experience on this level + only thing they had to do (well, the only time they really need to show up) to qualify is beat the SA #5 over 2 games (and they still need pen. kicks?). I hope I'm wrong and wish the Socceroos all the best though...

[stralian]

kojem ti kurcu sviraš?!

Croatia played every single qualification match with their A-team.. only games we didn't play with our A-team where those on Carlsberg Cup, against Korea and Hong Kong..

and about those teams which Australia played in qualifications.. my friends and I would probably beat them after one or two crates of Ožujsko (or Velebitsko, I'm not picky :D )

We played them in qualifications?

[purger]

Just received my tickets for the Croatia / Japan game. Should be fun. Looking forward to it.


~shawn


And one Cro/Jap fan less on stadium due to stupid FIFA :rolleyes:

BTW, have fun on the game, nothing directly mentioned to you.. Just the fact that FIFA fvucked up again..

[purger]

After he downs some of Ozujsko.


Nah, I'm peacefull then.. After certain amount of beer, I wouldn't kill a fly..

When I'm sober, then You should fear me :D

[purger]

oh and the Croatian team does?????

YES!!!

10+ games per year (in european qualifications,the hardest qualifications in the world) with the same team in over 90% of cases..

Hong Kong tournament was the only one where played players mostly from croatian league..


Why am I even bothering talking with Mr "I started to follow football couple of months ago"

[tdr]

Why am I even bothering talking with Mr "I started to follow football couple of months ago"
:lol:

[li-mu-bai]

Istrcali, istrcali vatreni Hrvati
Istrcali, istrcali vatreni Hrvati
Lopta leti nam travnjakom
Svi Hrvati pod barjakom

Boj se bije, bije
Hrvatski se barjak vije
za svoj narod i za dom!
HRVATSKA!!!

[SiN]

i dont understand that but im presumming that it is something to do with cheering croatia on!

[li-mu-bai]

It does.

[shawn7]

How are the Croatian Fans? Curious if I should buy a Croatia or Japan T-Shirt.


~Shawn

[Tickets]

10+ games per year (in european qualifications,the hardest qualifications in the world) with the same team in over 90% of cases..


Hardest qualifications in the world my arse, how many spots are given to Europe? How shit are 3/4 of European football teams??

The hardest qualifying group IMO would have to be Sth America

:fencing:

[Tickets]

besides - exactly how well are Croatia going to play going into game three already with 2 losses and nothing to play for???? LOL

:fencing:

[xavig]

japan small chance ,croatia and australia will fight for second.croatia most likely second.

[hrobatos]

Hardest qualifications in the world my arse, how many spots are given to Europe? How shit are 3/4 of European football teams??

The hardest qualifying group IMO would have to be Sth America

:fencing:

every single team from Europe that will participate on WC is better than Australia.. and many of those that didn't qualify (Turkey, Denmark, :) Bosnia & Herzegovina:) , Israel, Rep. Ireland, Bulgaria, Romania, Norway, Slovakia and Russia are all better than Australia)..

South America has only :star: Argentina and Brazil:star: , all other teams are only good playing at home.. UEFA has many great teams and few teams that are really hard to beat on thier field.. I would like to see Australia playing in :mad2: Glasgow, Tirana, Skopje, Tbilisi, Baku, Erevan or Chisinau:mad2: where supporters throw knives and bombs on pitch..

Oceania Qualifications are like qualifications for Croatian Third League.. my hometown club NK Radnik Velika Gorica would draw with Australia NT and beat all those island craps..

[los_ches]

every single team from Europe that will participate on WC is better than Australia.. and many of those that didn't qualify (Turkey, Denmark, :) Bosnia & Herzegovina:) , Israel, Rep. Ireland, Bulgaria, Romania, Norway, Slovakia and Russia are all better than Australia)....

Man you take this very seriously...doesn't take much to wind you up:lol: ...lolz...For the record I agree with you that the European qualifications are a lot tougher than S.A qualifications but I doubt if all of those teams are better than Australia though a few of them are equal or slightly better than Australia.


South America has only :star: Argentina and Brazil:star: , all other teams are only good playing at home.. UEFA has many great teams and few teams that are really hard to beat on thier field.. I would like to see Australia playing in :mad2: Glasgow, Tirana, Skopje, Tbilisi, Baku, Erevan or Chisinau:mad2: where supporters throw knives and bombs on pitch.....

We have to contend with coup's ,chaotic lawlessness and playing on concrete...hahahahaha....:ronaldo: e.g. Vanuatu,Fiji,Solomon Islands


Oceania Qualifications are like qualifications for Croatian Third League.. my hometown club NK Radnik Velika Gorica would draw with Australia NT and beat all those island craps..

Yeah they might since we send our 6th string national team to those islands for the qualifiers:rolleyes:

[purger]

How are the Croatian Fans? Curious if I should buy a Croatia or Japan T-Shirt.


~Shawn

You'll not find many of them on stadiums (mostly buissines people, models and stuff like that)..

Real fans, supporters will be in nearby bars, drinking litres of beers.. :D

[purger]

-

Did you say something?

NO?

I think so..

[_croatia_istria]

You give me world football championship tickets - i give you free summer vacation on beautiful Istrian coast - 10 days of free staring at the beautiful Brioni archipelag.....
your pleasure is my command!!

[hrobatos]

Vidmar misses World Cup because his heart problems..

that means one more goal in australian net.. scored by Ivica Olić!

[stralian]

Vidmar was becoming a liability. He deserved to be in the squad just because of his dedication for the Australian NT over those many years. But... If anything, that's one less goal you will be scoring. jackass.

[davor_suker]

Vidmar was becoming a liability. He deserved to be in the squad just because of his dedication for the Australian NT over those many years. But... If anything, that's one less goal you will be scoring. jackass.

Not when there is no adequate replacement ;)

Oh btw, did you see Kovac starts every game for Juve now, with a fully fit Thuram on the bench :ronaldo:

[stralian]

Not when there is no adequate replacement ;)

Oh btw, did you see Kovac starts every game for Juve now, with a fully fit Thuram on the bench :ronaldo:

No Actually, thanks for the recap. did you hear Lucas Neill is being looked at by AC Milan.

Jackass.

[davor_suker]

No Actually, thanks for the recap. did you hear Lucas Neill is being looked at by AC Milan.

Jackass.

Jackass? why?

Lucas Neill to Milan :lol:

Even if he does go there, and inevitably warms the bench (like Simic, who isnt a key player for us) whats your point?

Simunic is also linked with Milan, but unlike Lucas Neill he would actually get a game.

Lucas Neill wouldnt get a game in our defence. You know that, I know that.

[stralian]

I know you know nothing about our team

[stralian]

jackass

[davor_suker]

I know you know nothing about our team

Prove me wrong then. Im sure you know nothing about our team, otherwise you wouldnt make such ridiculous statements.

[danster]

Unlucky loss to Bulgaria for Japan last night. Although Japan did have perhaps a 3rd-string attack and midfield. However, we must look at putting our chances away, this has always been an issue for us. Hopefully we can put a few on Scotland and head of for Germany in confidence!

[los_ches]

Prove me wrong then. Im sure you know nothing about our team, otherwise you wouldnt make such ridiculous statements.

Everyone in this thread has said some ridiculous BS at one point or another. :yell: Anyways has Croatia and Japan finalised their squads? If they have can you put up their name,position and the club they play for?

Australia just revealed their 23 man squad for the WC today.


Goalkeepers: Ante Covic (Hammarby, Sweden), Zeljko Kalac (AC Milan, Italy), Mark Schwarzer (Middlesbrough, England)

Defenders: Michael Beauchamp (Central Coast Mariners), Stan Lazaridis (uncontracted), Mark Milligan (Sydney FC), Craig Moore (Newcastle United, England), Lucas Neill (Blackburn Rovers, England), Tony Popovic (Crystal Palace, England)

Midfielders: Marco Bresciano (Parma, Italy), Tim Cahill (Everton, England), Scott Chipperfield (FC Basel, Switzerland), Jason Culina (PSV Eindhoven, Netherlands), Brett Emerton (Blackburn Rovers, England), Vince Grella (Parma, Italy), Harry Kewell (Liverpool, England), Josip Skoko (Stoke City, England), Mile Sterjovski (FC Basel, Switzerland), Luke Wilkshire (Bristol, England)

Forwards: John Aloisi (Alaves, Spain), Josh Kennedy (Dynamo Dresden, Germany), Archie Thompson (Melbourne Victory), Mark Viduka (Middlesbrough, England).

[hrobatos]

You all Australians started to follow football when your NT qualified for WC.. Here in Croatia, football is in our blood!

Croatia for WC2006 (not final but most possible)

Goalkeepers: Tomislav Butina (Olympiakos, Greece), Stipe Pletikosa (Hajduk Split, Croatia), Joey Didulica (Austria Vienna, Austria)

Defenders: Robert Kovač (Juventus, Italy), Josip Šimunić (Hertha, Germany), Stjepan Tomas (Galatasaray, Turkey), Dario Šimić (AC Milan, Italy), Mario Tokić (Austria Vienna, Austria)

Midfielders: Darijo Srna (Shakhtar Donetsk, Ukraine), Marko Babić (Bayer Leverkusen, Germany), Anthony Šerić (Panathinaikos, Greece), Igor Tudor (Siena, Italy/Juventus, Italy), Niko Kovač (Hertha, Germany/uncontracted after end of season), Jerko Leko (Dynamo Kiev, Ukraine/AS Monaco, France), Niko Kranjčar (Hajduk Split, Croatia/leaving after end of season, interested Lyon, Celtic,...), Luka Modrić (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia), Jurica Vranješ (Werder Bremen, Germany)

Forwards: Dado Pršo (Glasgow Rangers, Scotland), Ivica Olić (CSKA Moscow, Russia), Ivan Klasnić (Werder Bremen, Germany/leaving after end of season, intersted Schalke, Liverpool,...), Boško Balaban (Club Brugge, Belgium), Eduardo Da Silva (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia), Ivan Bošnjak (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia)

+ Vedran Čorluka (defender - Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia) / Danijel Pranjić (midfielder - Heerenveen, Netherlands) / Ivan Leko (midfielder - Club Brugge, Belgium) / Mladen Petrić (forward - Basel, Switzerland)

[purger]

+ Ludara group from Vinkovci, Bad Blue Boys, Torcida, Armada, Kohorta, Ultrasi...

We are strong, we are very strong ;) :D

[hrobatos]

MI HRVATI!

entire Croatia for firey team!

[hrobatos]

Viduka didn't score from 10m and with that goal Boro would be back in game..

On the other side, Schwarzer was searching ball behind his back four times..

And that's the way Australians play important games..

VIVA SEVILLA!!! OLÉ!!!

[los_ches]

You all Australians started to follow football when your NT qualified for WC.. Here in Croatia, football is in our blood!


Please don't talk for all Australians, there are a lot of us who went through so much heartbreak every 4 years and we still stuck by them. I'm happy that heaps of AUstralians have started to follow football since we qualified, it is good to see more of them on these forums unlike the old days when there was maybe a handful. Sure some of the new ones say some outrageous things but hey I have seen so called fans of established football countries say some dumb things:lol: . Success breeds new fans, thats just the way it is. Football in AUstralia needs all the support it can get after so many bloody years in the wilderness. In Australia Sport is our blood. Football is not an exception. Good Luck to your team and dont speak on the behalf of other fans.:rolleyes:

[los_ches]

Viduka didn't score from 10m and with that goal Boro would be back in game..

On the other side, Schwarzer was searching ball behind his back four times..

And that's the way Australians play important games..

VIVA SEVILLA!!! OLÉ!!!

That was a shocking game and both our players played disgracefull especially Schwazer in the second half.:faint2:
By the way Boro not = Aus NT thats like me finding 2 croatians in a foreign team and saying a team played great or crap because of 2 players in that team of the same origin....lolz:lol: ...once again stupidity is universal:red-card:

[Ronni]

Please don't talk for all Australians, there are a lot of us who went through so much heartbreak every 4 years and we still stuck by them. I'm happy that heaps of AUstralians have started to follow football since we qualified, it is good to see more of them on these forums unlike the old days when there was maybe a handful. Sure some of the new ones say some outrageous things but hey I have seen so called fans of established football countries say some dumb things:lol: . Success breeds new fans, thats just the way it is. Football in AUstralia needs all the support it can get after so many bloody years in the wilderness. In Australia Sport is our blood. Football is not an exception. Good Luck to your team and dont speak on the behalf of other fans.:rolleyes:

I think many people here in this forum who live in countries where football is sport #1 forget that they should even honour you guys from countries where the game isn't even that much considered, and still you care that much about it. It's easy to be a football fan when every newspaper you open has football news on the front page, every match is broadcasted on major tv stations, and every one you meet on the street can discuss with you about the match last evening.

I consider you football fans from countries like the US, Australia and others as the "heroes" in this forum - and still there are some guys here that insist on offending you every now and then for living in a place where "football isn't in the blood of the nation". I can imagine how frustrating it must be to have to search for the information about football you need, whereas we're immersed in a flood of football information in our football-crazy countries.

I wish you all luck, and I still hope religion football will conquer your countries one day. Actually I'm sure it will. Consider yourselves as the prophets of this world wide religion, and go on.

[hrobatos]

i don't have anything against australia and guys like los_ches and ronni.. those people like stralian and tickets really get on my nerves, because they are arrogant and don't have basic football knowledge.. it's a great thing that your country managed to qualify after many years but they shouldn't insult other teams with much longer football tradition, especially those ones who are considered to be great football power, like Croatia..

[VOICE OF REASON]

i don't have anything against australia and guys like los_ches and ronni.. those people like stralian and tickets really get on my nerves, because they are arrogant and don't have basic football knowledge.. it's a great thing that your country managed to qualify after many years but they shouldn't insult other teams with much longer football tradition, especially those ones who are considered to be great football power, like Croatia..

You mean like the long 15 years of Croatian tradition.

j/k :) I'm aware of Yugoslavia

[Robino]

I wish you all luck, and I still hope religion football will conquer your countries one day. Actually I'm sure it will. Consider yourselves as the prophets of this world wide religion, and go on.

Yes! Canada will win world cup 2010! Or maybe we'll win a qualifier :)

[kewell_RuLeS.]

i don't have anything against australia and guys like los_ches and ronni.. those people like stralian and tickets really get on my nerves, because they are arrogant and don't have basic football knowledge.. it's a great thing that your country managed to qualify after many years but they shouldn't insult other teams with much longer football tradition, especially those ones who are considered to be great football power, like Croatia..

hahaha you think croatia is a great football power? :boo:, you need to get out of croatia for a little bit, it's clouding your mind.

[tdr]

hahaha you think croatia is a great football power? :boo:, you need to get out of croatia for a little bit, it's clouding your mind.
:lol: It's same with you, Australia chances of going to the next stage are somewhere around 15%

[hrobatos]

hahaha you think croatia is a great football power? :boo:, you need to get out of croatia for a little bit, it's clouding your mind.

I'm sure that I've travelled much more than you.. and everywhere I went people talked respectfully about my NT always considering Croatia as a powerfull darkhorse of world football..

I'm sorry that I forgot you when I was talking about arrogant people on this forum.. but you didn't made an impression on me, maybe bacause you are full of GOVNO..

[stralian]

Well, im sick of Mexicans coming to America and have non immigrant status thrown at them because you guys complain too much. then you go off and wave your Mexican flags and saying viva Mexico and shit. then i come here with an American wife and have to give an arm and a leg just to get a work visa.

VIVA USA, mother***ker

[hrobatos]

if there was no Mexicans, Americans wouldn't know what is football.. i do not intend to insult sombody but that's a fact..

[tdr]

2nd place,probably Ghana or Czech Rep.
I'll say it's USA or Czech Rep.

[tdr]

if there was no Mexicans, Americans wouldn't know what is football.. i do not intend to insult sombody but that's a fact..
That's an opinion and its wrong:lol:

[purger]

Fvuck this, just one month till WC and just one day till big derby Dinamo - Hajduk!!!

VIVA Dinamo i Majka Hrvatska

[tdr]

Fvuck this, just one month till WC and just one day till big derby Dinamo - Hajduk!!!

VIVA Dinamo i Majka Hrvatska
Hajduk wins:sad:

[purger]

Hajduk wins:sad:

Yeah, right :rolleyes:

They'll have their legs cut off infront of 35 000 fans.. And Niko Kranjcar is coming to maximir again.. :D Last time he was almost hit by a flair.. Traitor..


I'm going, I'm going.. Beers are already cooling in the fridge.. :D

Jedna ce Torcida plakati ovu noc
Jebi se jebi Splite, Dinamo sampion

[tdr]

My prediction Hajduk 3-0 Dinamo (Blatnjak, Hrgovic, Biscevic):lol:
http://www.hnkhajduk.hr/fotos/foto_tjedna/foto_tjedna.jpg
Intertoto here we come.

[kewell_RuLeS.]

I don't like arrogant people like Australians, and Americans. Only because they won one qualifier they think of themselves as world powers.

VIVA MEXICO!!!

***k mexico!, you change opinions quicker then the weather!

VIVA australia! and USA!

now to you croatia's who i love so much, i for one have never claimed australia is a power house football team!,.......just because i think we can wipe the floor with croatia doesn't mean that would make us a world power, because who's croatia after all??:evil: :D :star:

[tdr]

Well Croatia has beaten up on many good teams in the past and they have qualified for every world cup they tried to qualify. This is Australia's first World Cup and they played in Oceania.

[kewell_RuLeS.]

Well Croatia has beaten up on many good teams in the past and they have qualified for every world cup they tried to qualify. This is Australia's first World Cup and they played in Oceania.

having a one of shot vs a south american side............is much harder........i stress much harder then having many chances against avg european teams!

and who cares about the past!, it won't help on the field come world cup time!.

[tdr]

having a one of shot vs a south american side............is much harder........i stress much harder then having many chances against avg european teams!
:faint2:

and who cares about the past!, it won't help on the field come world cup time!.
I agree with that.:smoking:

[stralian]

if there was no Mexicans, Americans wouldn't know what is football.. i do not intend to insult sombody but that's a fact..

Is that why the U.S. always kicks Mexico's ass?

[VOICE OF REASON]

Is that why the U.S. always kicks Mexico's ass?

oh comon now, the series gets split. usually whoever is home gets the w

[los_ches]

I think many people here in this forum who live in countries where football is sport #1 forget that they should even honour you guys from countries where the game isn't even that much considered, and still you care that much about it. It's easy to be a football fan when every newspaper you open has football news on the front page, every match is broadcasted on major tv stations, and every one you meet on the street can discuss with you about the match last evening.

I consider you football fans from countries like the US, Australia and others as the "heroes" in this forum - and still there are some guys here that insist on offending you every now and then for living in a place where "football isn't in the blood of the nation". I can imagine how frustrating it must be to have to search for the information about football you need, whereas we're immersed in a flood of football information in our football-crazy countries.

I wish you all luck, and I still hope religion football will conquer your countries one day. Actually I'm sure it will. Consider yourselves as the prophets of this world wide religion, and go on.

Thanks a lot mate....much appreciated. Actually they now give us a page in the papers and started calling it football...so its a start.:ronaldo:

[los_ches]

I don't like arrogant people like Australians, and Americans. Only because they won one qualifier they think of themselves as world powers.

VIVA MEXICO!!!

You serious me too and you know what I really really hate...When fans of a certain country under the USA think they are a world power when they qualify for the World Cup from a weaker confederation and their best result was a 2 quarter final apperances which was due mostly to being the host both times. Out of curiosity even though I think the FIFA rankings are B.S!!!What is the highest position Mexico ever reached? Was it better than their rivals USA's number 4(Absurd:shocked: )!!!!:evil: hahahahahaha

[los_ches]

oh comon now, the series gets split. usually whoever is home gets the w
Yeah you are right but come on let us have some fun with the lil' Mexican!!!:lol:

[kewell_RuLeS.]

Yeah you are right but come on let us have some fun with the lil' Mexican!!!:lol:

hahaha stupid little mexican. :smoking:

[_croatia_istria]

You give me world football championship tickets - i give you free summer vacation on beautiful Istrian coast - 10 days of free staring at the beautiful Brioni archipelag.....
your pleasure is my command!!

mihos@net.hr

[hrobatos]

Final Croatian list for WC2006.. Zlatko Kranjčar decided that these players are going to Germany:

goalkeepers: Tomislav Butina (Olympiakos, Greece), Stipe Pletikosa (Hajduk Split, Croatia), Joey Didulica (Austria Vienna, Austria)

defenders: Robert Kovač (Juventus, Italy), Dario Šimić (AC Milan, Italy), Stjepan Tomas (Galatasaray, Turkey), Josip Šimunić (Hertha, Germany), Mario Tokić (Austria Vienna, Austria)

midfeilders: Darijo Srna (Shakhtar Donetsk, Ukraine), Igor Tudor (Siena, Italy), Niko Kovač (Hertha, Germany), Jerko Leko (Dynamo Kiev, Ukraine), Ivan Leko (Club Brugge, Belgium), Jurica Vranješ (Werder, Germany), Marko Babić (Bayer Leverkusen, Germany), Luka Modrić (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia), Niko Kranjčar (Hajduk Split, Croatia), Anthony Šerić (Panathinaikos, Greece)

forwards: Dado Pršo (Glasgow Rangers, Scotland), Ivica Olić (CSKA Moscow, Russia), Ivan Klasnić (Werder, Germany), Boško Balaban (Club Brugge, Belgium), Ivan Bošnjak (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia)

24th player: Marijan Buljat (midfielder - Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia)

backups: Eduardo Da Silva (forward - Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia), Mario Petrić (forward - FC Basel, Switzerland), Dario Knežević (defender - NK Rijeka, Croatia)

[Toke-E-Yo]

no surprises in there...

[tdr]

Eduardo Da Silva (forward - Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia)
He is Croatian?

[hrobatos]

Yes, he is.. he is in Zagreb since he was 13 so he became real "Purger".. he is married to girl from Zagreb and speaks croatian fluently with kajkavian dialect..

[stralian]

All these "Croatians" that aren't actually Croatian. Tsk Tsk. You should know better than that considering you all blame us for being the Croatian B team. we should call you the Brazillian W team, or the German P team.... yes, i shall call you the German P team;)

[davor_suker]

All these "Croatians" that aren't actually Croatian. Tsk Tsk. You should know better than that considering you all blame us for being the Croatian B team. we should call you the Brazillian W team, or the German P team.... yes, i shall call you the German P team;)

Ummm, right. Nobody blames Australia for being "Croatia B", but it is common knowledge almost all the Australian/Croatians would play for Croatia if they had the chance, Viduka was going to but im sure youre aware of what happened there.

[Toke-E-Yo]

Ummm, right. Nobody blames Australia for being "Croatia B", but it is common knowledge almost all the Australian/Croatians would play for Croatia if they had the chance, Viduka was going to but im sure youre aware of what happened there.


lol. well it seems to be more and more Brazilians are also coming to Japan to try and play for us...lol. Invasion fot eh foreigners.

[Flame_cro]

ol. well it seems to be more and more Brazilians are also coming to Japan to try and play for us...lol. Invasion fot eh foreigners.

maybe they should..you would have better chances against us.

[hrobatos]

All these "Croatians" that aren't actually Croatian. Tsk Tsk. You should know better than that considering you all blame us for being the Croatian B team. we should call you the Brazillian W team, or the German P team.... yes, i shall call you the German P team;)

we have few players born in Germany or Australia and they are 100% Croats.. you have few players born in Australia that are 100% Croat (Bresciano is only 50% Croat).. see the difference?

[Toke-E-Yo]

we have few players born in Germany or Australia and they are 100% Croats.. you have few players born in Australia that are 100% Croat (Bresciano is only 50% Croat).. see the difference?


what? lol

[CloudyBongwater]

Just after watching Japans 2 games against Bulgaria and Scotland I think Australias chances of getting through the group have increased drastically. They are lacking depth all over the ground. Pretty much sure as well Australia has a lot of potential to beat Croatia quite easily on the day. Brazil hopefully salvage a draw or go down at least 1 - 0 but hey with the Aussie spirit we are fighters and never give up until that final whistle, and definately the guys in the team have been waiting along time for this one and are out to prove the guys from down under can be taken as a threat to any team. Quite possible on the day they can beat Brazil ( Its all up to the guys how much they want it). They`re the dark horses who everyone under estimates guys mark my words be prepared for a few suprises. Because I got faith in The Aussies. Go ALOISI. Lets be prepared for some good football may the best team win.

[Toke-E-Yo]

Just after watching Japans 2 games against Bulgaria and Scotland I think Australias chances of getting through the group have increased drastically. They are lacking depth all over the ground. Pretty much sure as well Australia has a lot of potential to beat Croatia quite easily on the day. Brazil hopefully salvage a draw or go down at least 1 - 0 but hey with the Aussie spirit we are fighters and never give up until that final whistle, and definately the guys in the team have been waiting along time for this one and are out to prove the guys from down under can be taken as a threat to any team. Quite possible on the day they can beat Brazil ( Its all up to the guys how much they want it). They`re the dark horses who everyone under estimates guys mark my words be prepared for a few suprises. Because I got faith in The Aussies. Go ALOISI. Lets be prepared for some good football may the best team win.


that Game meant nothing, considering more than 13 ppl on the team willbe cut, as iut is sure tht Zico will call up most foreign based stars. Japan's weakness, without question is it's ability to finish, although Oguro has shown some good skill latley.

[stralian]

we have few players born in Germany or Australia and they are 100% Croats.. you have few players born in Australia that are 100% Croat (Bresciano is only 50% Croat).. see the difference?

umm yeah... what?
how can you be born and raised in a country (like Australia) and still be 100% for another country (like Croatia). are you retarded, dude? seriously? I have German roots, but am i 100% German, fu<k no. im not even 1% German. don't give me this crap about how Croatians are different, they're more patriotic then anyone else in the world. You're CROATIAN, so of course you would say that. Viduka was asked to play for Croatia, guess what hot shot... he said no. You speaking all this shit, while if you were true, the only single 100% Australian would be the Abo's. So stop trying to claim everyone else in the world, and ask Croatia to breed some talent for once. tard.

[Ero]

umm yeah... what?
how can you be born and raised in a country (like Australia) and still be 100% for another country (like Croatia). are you retarded, dude? seriously? I have German roots, but am i 100% German, fu<k no. im not even 1% German. don't give me this crap about how Croatians are different, they're more patriotic then anyone else in the world. You're CROATIAN, so of course you would say that. Viduka was asked to play for Croatia, guess what hot shot... he said no. You speaking all this shit, while if you were true, the only single 100% Australian would be the Abo's. So stop trying to claim everyone else in the world, and ask Croatia to breed some talent for once. tard.

theres a thing called ethnicity maybe you have heard about it, your german, im croatian doesnt matter where your born and/or raised

[stralian]

In the end, it doesn't mean shit where loyalty lays. It's where you call home.

[Ero]

In the end, it doesn't mean shit where loyalty lays. It's where you call home.

which is croatia or bosnia and hercegovina for a lot of diaspora croatians, australia has a lot of croats just like the states and canada and germany if a croat from those countries wish to play for their true motherland why shouldnt they

[hrobatos]

Viduka adored Franjo Tudjman and you say he said no for our NT? you have some serious problems.. croatians in diaspora would do anything to play for their homeland NT.. there was no place for Viduka near Šuker, ***šić, Stanić and Vlaović.. he wasn't good enough at that time..

[Wakarahen]

that Game meant nothing, considering more than 13 ppl on the team willbe cut, as iut is sure tht Zico will call up most foreign based stars. Japan's weakness, without question is it's ability to finish, although Oguro has shown some good skill latley.

I'm afraid I have to agree with Toke-E-Yo on this one. The Japanese side was well under-strength. To be fair, I'm not really sure how strong the Scots were (ie. Did they send a First 11?). The Bulgarians didn't send their best side, apparently.

[benfica64]

I'm afraid I have to agree with Toke-E-Yo on this one. The Japanese side was well under-strength. To be fair, I'm not really sure how strong the Scots were (ie. Did they send a First 11?). The Bulgarians didn't send their best side, apparently.

Its a shame Bulgaria and Romania didnt qualify for this World cup I always enjoyed watching these 2 teams play. I think both these teams played some entertaining football.

[danster]

I'm afraid I have to agree with Toke-E-Yo on this one. The Japanese side was well under-strength. To be fair, I'm not really sure how strong the Scots were (ie. Did they send a First 11?). The Bulgarians didn't send their best side, apparently.

Damn straight those games meant nothing. Except to a few of the boys trying to scrape into Zico's world cup squad such as Maki, Kubo etc. I say Australia's chances over the past few weeks have plummeted as the boys just don't look to be in peak fitness eg. Cahill, Kewell (stuffed his groin again last night). Not long to go now boys!

[dave88socceroo]

Do you thin Tim Cahill and Harry Kewell will be fitt for the World Cup?

[danster]

Do you thin Tim Cahill and Harry Kewell will be fitt for the World Cup?

Because of Australia's lack of depth yes, they will be in the squad and yes, they will be forced to play, even thought not at desired physical level. Thus enabling Chef Nakamura to make sushi of Australia.

[purger]

Viduka adored Franjo Tudjman and you say he said no for our NT? you have some serious problems.. croatians in diaspora would do anything to play for their homeland NT.. there was no place for Viduka near Šuker, ***šić, Stanić and Vlaović.. he wasn't good enough at that time..

Viduka wanted guaranteed place in NT but couldn't get it near Suker and ***sic so he refused the offer.. Few months later got into conflict with Bad Blue Boys and was sold immediately to Celtic.

But what's really matters is that his favourite clubs game was vs Partizan in CL (5:0 :D )

And I remember Skoko when he was playing for Hajduk.. He said he would be honoured to play for Croatia but he never got called, he was good in Hajduk but not so good for Croatian team at that time.

BTW, Dinamo beat Hajduk in last game of the season and now I can completely focus on incoming WC :D

This is how it should be on stadiums.. :D

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5528/dinamohajduk13050641ku.jpg
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http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1158/dinamohajduk130506235mp.jpg
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http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7789/picture0685ao.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/946/dinamohajduk13050654pw.jpg

Those guys are coming to Germany.. Don't mess with them.. And don't even try telling them that australian croats aren't croats at all.. :D

Cheers

[stralian]

man, you Croatians are extremely annoying. who else in the world would care about the shit you guys do. don't say it patriotism, its more like gayism. you don't see germans running around trying to claim players that aren't actually german. probably because they can raise their own talent.

[benfica64]

man, you Croatians are extremely annoying. who else in the world would care about the shit you guys do. don't say it patriotism, its more like gayism. you don't see germans running around trying to claim players that aren't actually german. probably because they can raise their own talent.

There is nothing wrong with having national pride and wanting your team to do well, and personally I have nothing against the croats I have some good croatian friends but the bottom line is this, Croatia is Croatia and Austrialia is just that. Those Austrialians of croatian heritage are not out there trying to win it for Croatia. So in a sense I agree with this post in the sense that simply because some country has ethnic backround to yours shouldnt be made a big stink about.

[kewell_RuLeS.]

man, you Croatians are extremely annoying. who else in the world would care about the shit you guys do. don't say it patriotism, its more like gayism. you don't see germans running around trying to claim players that aren't actually german. probably because they can raise their own talent.

good post man, it's getting to a sad levels now ! give up the ghost croatia!.

[los_ches]

Because of Australia's lack of depth yes, they will be in the squad and yes, they will be forced to play, even thought not at desired physical level. Thus enabling Chef Nakamura to make sushi of Australia.

Lack of World Class recognised depth yes maybe.BUT we can put together 3 teams of Australians playing overseas. Some of them more recognised than Japan's 2nd or 3rd string teams. In saying so I do believe you guys have a splendid mid-field and one which I'm a big fan of. What lets you guys down is your fowards and to some degree your backs.Aus achilles heel is their defence and its an area I'm hoping Hiddink has worked on using the the fluid 3-4-3 formation. Other than that Nakamura cannot be fouled to close to our goal, I watched some Celtic games and he is chillingly accurate from distance.

[Ronni]

There is nothing wrong with having national pride and wanting your team to do well, and personally I have nothing against the croats I have some good croatian friends but the bottom line is this, Croatia is Croatia and Austrialia is just that. Those Austrialians of croatian heritage are not out there trying to win it for Croatia. So in a sense I agree with this post in the sense that simply because some country has ethnic backround to yours shouldnt be made a big stink about.

however there's no point on trying to recall the ethnical origin of some players as his own in order to insinuate "the others are playing with our players".
It's completely nonsense.
I don't recall any italian mentioning that half argentine team is "italian". Every now and then they get one "back" (like Camoranesi), but still THIS is the exception nowadays (or the "unfair way"), not the opposite.
Or since you're a portuguese fan, you could also insinuate that all 5 brazilian titles were got with over 3/4 of players of portugese descent.
Wouldn't it be ridiculous? It's as much as saying that these aussies are croatian, italian, greek or whatever.

[dave88socceroo]

I think if you were born and brought up in Australia played your football in Australia and used Australian facilities along your journey i think therefore players with ethnic bacrounds that were brought up in Australia should play for the Socceroos. It shouldnt be argued over its not like all countries players are that full nationality.

[Tickets]

theres a thing called ethnicity maybe you have heard about it, your german, im croatian doesnt matter where your born and/or raised

Hang on a second......aren't Croatians Yugoslavians??????????

:fencing:

[Roo]

yugoslavia doesn't exist, and when it did existed, "yugoslavian" wasn't a nationality...you could only be croatian, bosian, serb etc...

now about the group: 1st-croatia! you'll see, we have a player in our squad who is really, really stupid and he probably didn't even heard about ronaldinho, adriano or kaka...he'll play with no respect for anybody, we call him drvosječa(lumberjack) and he won the best player award in the turkish league...you'll see ronaldinho limping after the match for sure

and i'll just mention ivica olic and ivan bošnjak, the 2 fastest players in the squad...they have incredible speed and acceleration, roberto carlos will get very, very dizzy...:evil:

[Ronni]

theres a thing called ethnicity maybe you have heard about it, your german, im croatian doesnt matter where your born and/or raised

this happens only in some host countries, and depending on the situation you live. If your family insists on living in a ghetto, you may feel this way. However, if your family is clever enough to integrate themselves in the country they chose, it's unavoidable that you start feeling yourself a product of the country where you were raised up.

Me and my brother used to call my grandpa "foreigner", since he had immigrated to the country my father was born. He always asked "if a cat bears in a backing oven, what you find there when you open it? Kitten or breads?". Our answer was always "breads".

For most people I know, the only clear sign of their ethnicity they have is their surname.

[davor_suker]

man, you Croatians are extremely annoying. who else in the world would care about the shit you guys do. don't say it patriotism, its more like gayism. you don't see germans running around trying to claim players that aren't actually german. probably because they can raise their own talent.

We are the most talented country in the world per head of population. We have 4million people yet have no trouble with most larger European teams.

To say we cannot produce our own talent, im sorry but that just highlights how dumb you really are and shows you know nothing of football.

Google these names, retard -

Davor Suker
Alen ***sic
Robert Prosinecki
Zvonimir Boban
Mario Stanic

We have a more complete team than Germany this year. Compare us man for man, besides some midfielders our team is better.

[stefulj]

Japan has a good team but against a strong defence such as croatian they don't stand a chance of scoring. They will have to come forward with a greater number of players and thus allowing our team to attack them.
the Aussies have skillfull players upfront and the ability to header in a few goals and this game for me will decide who goes through. This one should be a treat

Brazil will lose points on one or two teams in my opinion but they will go through

[Ronni]

We are the most talented country in the world per head of population. We have 4million people yet have no trouble with most larger European teams.

don't illude yourself.
Indeed you had an excellent generation in 1998, and this 2006 one is also good (although imo far from the talent of that one). But this won't most probably last forever. Like all other small nations, you'll every now and then come with good generations, and then sink back to underdogs land.

Enjoy it while you're still someone, and again, don't illude yourself.

[hrobatos]

Croatia is a constant in a world of sport, there hasn't been a year when we didn't produce world class athletes.. and I'm not talking only about football where we missed only Euro2000..

and that thing about large and small nations doesn't make sense.. especially in football..

large nations: Australia, China, India, Russia, USA, Indonesia
VS
small nations: Croatia, Serbia&MN, Czech Rep., Tunisia, Costa Rica, Denmark, Bulgaria

which group has better NTs?

[Ronni]

Croatia is a constant in a world of sport, there hasn't been a year when we didn't produce world class athletes.. and I'm not talking only about football where we missed only Euro2000..

and that thing about large and small nations doesn't make sense.. especially in football..

large nations: Australia, China, India, Russia, USA, Indonesia
VS
small nations: Croatia, Serbia&MN, Czech Rep., Tunisia, Costa Rica, Denmark, Bulgaria

which group has better NTs?

Let's not mix things.
Of course we're talking about football nations.

large nations: Brazil, Italy, Germany, France, England, Argentina
15 WC titles, 36 semis.

small nations: Croatia, Serbia/M, Czech, Tunisia, Costa Rica, Denmark, Bulgaria
0 WC titles, 6 semis.

like I said, every now and then we DO have a small nation on top. But nowadays it's very unlikely that any of them ever makes the VERY TOP, and it's also very unlikely that any of them keep themselves up there for a long time.

These "large nations" don't lead just because they have good football infra-structure and money, but also simply because they're large!
On the field you always have 11 vs. 11, so that everything can happen. But in the long run, the probability that a "leading" small nation stays there consistent for ever (like it is the case with the large nations) is about zero.

Perhaps we shouldn't just talk about the "bare" population, but about the football active population, considering of course the methods, infra-structure and of course money. That's why China isn't yet considered.

In my opinion things are getting more and more complicated for small nations, since there are some more large nations in the rise. I expect that in the next years large countries like the US, Mexico, Turkey, Egypt, Nigeria, Japan, China, Korea etc join the "middle" ones (Spain, Holland etc). Actually they are already at the same level of most small ones. If you think about the 70s, at that time they were absolutely nothing.
The difference is that they're here to stay. You will never agein see Mexico, the US or Nigeria as the underdogs they were before. Small countries like Croatia will come and go. Just have a look at Hungary and Uruguay. They'll be back to the top sooner or later. And then they will return to their underdogs class again.
In my opinion the same should happen to Croatia in some years from now.
So enjoy the nice NT you have while it isn't the case yet.

(anyway for a NT-fan point of view, Yugoslavia was a better deal)

[purger]

don't illude yourself.
Indeed you had an excellent generation in 1998, and this 2006 one is also good (although imo far from the talent of that one). But this won't most probably last forever. Like all other small nations, you'll every now and then come with good generations, and then sink back to underdogs land.

Enjoy it while you're still someone, and again, don't illude yourself.

There is that little thing called - TALENTED NATION FOR SPORT ;)

In 15 years of independence we have done great things in terms of sport, things that some bigger nations didn't done in their lifetime..

In football terms, we will probably never win anything and 3rd place will probably be the best WC result for us but our goal as small nation isn't that, it's just to be there everytime.. As football being the most popular sport in Croatia, most of kids choose it and therefor there will always be enough talents to secure us big competitions like WC and EC at least one per 10 years for each competition..

[davor_suker]

don't illude yourself.
Indeed you had an excellent generation in 1998, and this 2006 one is also good (although imo far from the talent of that one). But this won't most probably last forever. Like all other small nations, you'll every now and then come with good generations, and then sink back to underdogs land.

Enjoy it while you're still someone, and again, don't illude yourself.

You misunderstood what I said. Im not comparing us to Brazil or anything like that, im saying for our population (4million people) there arent many countries that are better. Can you think of any?

[los_ches]

You misunderstood what I said. Im not comparing us to Brazil or anything like that, im saying for our population (4million people) there arent many countries that are better. Can you think of any?

There aren't many but he right you can't avoid the inevitable down side which most nations experince bar the Brazilians. You will eventually miss out on the WC one day. Also countries like China & India aren't that passionate and haven't got the infrastructure to match more established nations when it comes to football. China will eventually get it right and match it with the best. Australia experienced a similar problem in that not enough support for the game and shocking adminstartion and infrastructure for the game. Only recently have things turned around for us and we hope to become a force in the next 10-15 years time.

[Tickets]

I agree with Ronni

Croatia would have much better chance of staying respectable if they were still part of Yugoslavia
ce-la-vie

:fencing:

[Tickets]

In football terms, we will probably never win anything and 3rd place will probably be the best WC result for us but our goal as small nation isn't that, it's just to be there everytime.. As football being the most popular sport in Croatia, most of kids choose it and therefor there will always be enough talents to secure us big competitions like WC and EC at least one per 10 years for each competition..

I find it interesting how people who back a side that doesn't have a chance of winning ALWAYS say that their goal isn't to win but just to be there!
Just to compete!!

Bull5h1t - don't even bother if that's the case! Bloody wimp supporters don't want to get hurt so they protect themselves with stupid arse statements claiming they are happy with a good performance. That way they won't be disappointed WHEN THEY LOSE!!!! Bunch of softc0cks who can't take losing.

If you lose - you learn from it - pick yourself up and go again until you win.

That's the difference i guess between Australia and Croatia - We are going there to win. And if we don't...then a better team will have beaten us.
You guys may be happy with mediocrity and don't set your expectations high - that way you wont be dissappointed! right? :evil: :smoking:

:fencing:

[Sleeper]

Yes, he is.. he is in Zagreb since he was 13 so he became real "Purger".. he is married to girl from Zagreb and speaks croatian fluently with kajkavian dialect..

Ok, he's not so fluent, but he can speak croatian better than some Croats around here and definetly better than Ivica Kostelic. Sad.

PS. better than my english for sure

[Sleeper]

We are going there to win.

Only thing you'll win is sympathy from other fans. It's good to have so many Aussies here... God knows when we'll have chance to speak with them after this WC... Maybe when Australia gets WC hosting in 2046?

[Tickets]

Ok, he's not so fluent, but he can speak croatian better than some Croats around here and definetly better than Ivica Kostelic. Sad.

PS. better than my english for sure

funny - i watched a doco about him on a MAS flight last week and he stated that he has lived in Croatia for 6 years now and has married a Croatian girl.
sooooo i guess that makes him 19yrs old?

:fencing:

[Sleeper]

I agree with Ronni
Croatia would have much better chance of staying respectable if they were still part of Yugoslavia
ce-la-vie

Yes, I agree... Using same logic, you have chance to become World Champions back in 1966, if you just stays as England's colony 'til then.

[Sleeper]

funny - i watched a doco about him on a MAS flight last week and he stated that he has lived in Croatia for 6 years now and has married a Croatian girl.
sooooo i guess that makes him 19yrs old?

:fencing:

Yap, he's young 19-20.

[danster]

Only thing you'll win is sympathy from other fans. It's good to have so many Aussies here... God knows when we'll have chance to speak with them after this WC... Maybe when Australia gets WC hosting in 2046?

I second that.

[Tickets]

Only thing you'll win is sympathy from other fans. It's good to have so many Aussies here... God knows when we'll have chance to speak with them after this WC... Maybe when Australia gets WC hosting in 2046?

:lol:

Hosting a WC would be something

We have the facilities, grounds, infrastructure, transportation and economic stability to do that.

And we have the record to show we CAN be great hosts
eg Olympic games 2000 and Commonweath Games 2006

I am tipping we will be putting a very strong bid in 2014 and 2018 tho!

:fencing:

[Tickets]

Yes, I agree... Using same logic, you have chance to become World Champions back in 1966, if you just stays as England's colony 'til then.

yeah - like Scotland and Wales should just pool their talen with England and enter the WC as Great Britain. That should guarantee them a few more Cups!

:fencing:

[Tickets]

Only thing you'll win is sympathy from other fans.

Plus a few wins (definately against Croatia + Japan) Brazil and then Czech Republic are gonna be much harder..... but possible. :ronaldo:

:fencing:

[Tickets]

you are quiet today Tokes!!!

[danster]

Japan squad looks very strong and experienced. Only surprise maybe the selection of Jubilo Iwata striker Seiichiro Maki. Starting squad should rougly resemble this.

Kawaguchi


Kaji Nakazawa Miyamoto Santos



Ogasawara Nakata Nakamura Ono


Yanagisawa

Takahara

[davor_suker]

I get the feeling you're just calling us crap just to stir shit. We are obviously (on paper) the second strongest team in the group.
One thing we can definitely agree on though im sure, is the Japanese squad is mediocre at best. On paper, they shouldnt be a match for any of the teams in this group.

[danster]

Japan squad looks very strong and experienced. Only surprise maybe the selection of Jubilo Iwata striker Seiichiro Maki. Starting squad should rougly resemble this.

Kawaguchi


Kaji Nakazawa Miyamoto Santos



Ogasawara Nakata Nakamura Ono


Yanagisawa

Takahara

You better not be talking to me, but if so, How The ***k is that calling Croatia crap. It dosen't have any relation to any other footballing team in this world. What are you on. You are the one that is stirring shit. Grow up.

[davor_suker]

You better not be talking to me, but if so, How The ***k is that calling Croatia crap. It dosen't have any relation to any other footballing team in this world. What are you on. You are the one that is stirring shit. Grow up.
Relax, it wasnt directed at you, rather at some of the socceroos supporters.

[danster]

Relax, it wasnt directed at you, rather at some of the socceroos supporters.

Crap. My bad. Go Croatia :rolleyes:

[los_ches]

I get the feeling you're just calling us crap just to stir shit.

Took you a while to realise that people were doing that.:rolleyes:
I have always stated on paper Croatia has a slightly stronger side than Japan and Australia but in the WC that doesn't mean anything. In regards to hosting the WC we are actually thinking of making a bid for the 2018 WC and if that fail 2022.:evil:

Speculation at this point in time but hey who knows.
http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,19179230-23215,00.html

[Ronni]

Took you a while to realise that people were doing that.:rolleyes:
I have always stated on paper Croatia has a slightly stronger side than Japan and Australia but in the WC that doesn't mean anything. In regards to hosting the WC we are actually thinking of making a bid for the 2018 WC and if that fail 2022.:evil:

Speculation at this point in time but hey who knows.
http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,19179230-23215,00.html

it will be a strong bid. However since now Australia belongs to the AFC you'll have very strong opponents in China.

Anyway it will be terrible for us tv spectators at the other side of the Earth.

[Tickets]

Anyway it will be terrible for us tv spectators at the other side of the Earth.

yup - just as it is terrible for us over here for this WC. Still - looking on the bright side - I can still work AND watch the cup. that way I can afford the shitload of beer that'll be consumed through the nights

:p

:fencing:

[kewell_RuLeS.]

yup - just as it is terrible for us over here for this WC. Still - looking on the bright side - I can still work AND watch the cup. that way I can afford the shitload of beer that'll be consumed through the nights

:p

:fencing:

yeah i'll be taping the games and watching them when i get home!

[Toke-E-Yo]

Japan squad looks very strong and experienced. Only surprise maybe the selection of Jubilo Iwata striker Seiichiro Maki. Starting squad should rougly resemble this.

Kawaguchi


Kaji Nakazawa Miyamoto Santos



Ogasawara Nakata Nakamura Ono


Yanagisawa

Takahara


probably, but Maki doesnt play for Jubilo, its JEF United Chiba.

here is a analysis (not yet completed) that I have done of the Japanese squad

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=42424

[Toke-E-Yo]

you are quiet today Tokes!!!


I have ntohing to say. Y bad mouth Croatia and Australia, all they will do is gang up on me, since I am one of 3 consistnet fans that posts, even though Australia and Croatia are both worse on paper. I will let Japan's actions be my words.

[kewell_RuLeS.]

[QUOTE=Toke-E-Yo] Australia and Croatia are both worse on paper. QUOTE]

still crazy i see toke! thats cool man! :smoking:

[Toke-E-Yo]

[QUOTE=Toke-E-Yo] Australia and Croatia are both worse on paper. QUOTE]

still crazy i see toke! thats cool man! :smoking:


case and point.

FIFA World Rankings
Japan 18th
Croatia 23rd
Australia 42nd

[danster]

[QUOTE=kewell_RuLeS.]


case and point.

FIFA World Rankings
Japan 18th
Croatia 23rd
Australia 42nd

Toke-E-Yowned.

[kewell_RuLeS.]

[QUOTE=kewell_RuLeS.]


case and point.

FIFA World Rankings
Japan 18th
Croatia 23rd
Australia 42nd

japans on the slide son!, i'll watch you guys fall from grace!

lets see where the teams are ranked this time next year, when australia's had a full year of internationals in asia! :sad: :smoking:

[Ronni]

[QUOTE=Toke-E-Yo]lets see where the teams are ranked this time next year, when australia's had a full year of internationals in asia! :sad: :smoking:

Australia will have the chance of making an enormous jump in the FIFA rankings next month - if they defeat Brazil they'll get the most points they can get. Unfortunately Croatia and Japan are actually rated too low, and Australia can't take advantage of the WC weigth for getting so many points against them.

Anyway it will take some time until the matches in the AFC start counting for Australia.

[davor_suker]

[quote=kewell_RuLeS.]


case and point.

FIFA World Rankings
Japan 18th
Croatia 23rd
Australia 42nd

case and point.


FIFA World Rankings
USA - 5th
Argentina - 9th
England - 10th
Italy - 13th

Seriously dude, stronger on paper???? Your European players are crap besides Nakamura, whilst Australia and Croatia both have players playing (and starting) in the biggest leagues in the world.

I guess Robert Kovac of Juventus, or Marco Bresciano of Parma arent as good as your domestic players? Thats an insane comment.

[thepichi]

Australia is not a bad team, but I think the 2nd place will be Japan. They know how to play in these tournaments. Croatia 3rd and the aussies 4th.

And Brazil is going all the way...

[Toke-E-Yo]

case and point.


FIFA World Rankings
USA - 5th
Argentina - 9th
England - 10th
Italy - 13th

Seriously dude, stronger on paper???? Your European players are crap besides Nakamura, whilst Australia and Croatia both have players playing (and starting) in the biggest leagues in the world.

I guess Robert Kovac of Juventus, or Marco Bresciano of Parma arent as good as your domestic players? Thats an insane comment.

Japan doesnt need European players. We only had Nakamura and Nakata when we beat Greece and tied Brazil (which we should have WON) as our foreign players. Japan doesnt need European baes players, we have a decent league at home, and Japan has the best passworkings in Asia (depending on whos on the field) becuase we cant use our height and weight. Other than that I cant really think of what advantage Australia and Croatia have on Japan.

[los_ches]

[QUOTE=kewell_RuLeS.]


case and point.

FIFA World Rankings
Japan 18th
Croatia 23rd
Australia 42nd

Come on man using that argument you are telling me the USA is a superior team to Japan!!!!:faint2: .....We all know FIFA rankings are for childish bragging rights with no serious merit...ELO is slightly better and in that one you will see Croatia at 16,Australia at 24 and Japan at 27.Still it depends which biased version you want to use tp promote your team.

[los_ches]

Japan doesnt need European players. We only had Nakamura and Nakata when we beat Greece and tied Brazil (which we should have WON) as our foreign players. Japan doesnt need European baes players, we have a decent league at home, and Japan has the best passworkings in Asia (depending on whos on the field) becuase we cant use our height and weight. Other than that I cant really think of what advantage Australia and Croatia have on Japan.

Australia and Croatia have much better strikers than Japan. Maybe your defence is much better than ours but I think that has been improved but we shall see in the Greece game.You do have a decent league but I think players who play in the Champions league or UEFA Cup play against better opposition and a variety of styles which would make a difference. Also Croatia and Australia play a very physical game which MIGHT take away the advantage of speed Japan has over the two teams. Just my opinion and not an attack on the Japanese team. I think as more Japanese players play abroad in Europe your team will be only get better.

[Toke-E-Yo]

Come on man using that argument you are telling me the USA is a superior team to Japan!!!!:faint2: .....We all know FIFA rankings are for childish bragging rights with no serious merit...ELO is slightly better and in that one you will see Croatia at 16,Australia at 24 and Japan at 27.Still it depends which biased version you want to use tp promote your team.


well USA did beat Japan in feburary fair and square.


I guess Robert Kovac of Juventus, or Marco Bresciano of Parma arent as good as your domestic players? Thats an insane comment.

1) Mistuo Ogasawara
2) Ono Shinji
3) Abe Yuki
All 3 have been offered numerous contracts from the EPL, Serie A, La Liga, Eridenvise, and Bundesliga. Abe isnt even on the Japanese NT (he should be instead of Fukunishi) Ono (when not injured) is better than Kovac IMO (I have never seen Bresciano play) There are a whole bunch of players I can think go overseas who didnt get called up to the Japanese NT who are doing fine in Europe

1) Matusi Daisuke is the top assister in the French League, and has somehow been left off the squad for Germany
2) Hirayama Sato: Scored 8 goals in 31 games in the Eredivisie, most of which he came on as a sub.

Im sick and tired of everyones "Europe is everything" attitude in here. Europe IS NOT EVERYTHING

Look at Nakamura Shunsuke. How many people in here knew who he was in 2000? Hell, how many ppl in here knew who he was in 2003? Nakamura dominated in Japan, but no body knows that fact. Then he goes to Scotland and dominates, and suddenly everyone sees him?

Do you see my point?

[Toke-E-Yo]

Though some may dismiss results in the second division of a less "famous" European footballing nation, one should not underestimate the importance that Matsui's success at Le Mans could have on the future of Japanese football and, in particular, the prevalence of Japanese players in Europe. Up to now, it has been a well accepted principle that unless a Japanese player could get an offer from a top European team, or at least a small team in a top European League, the economics would not make the move worthwhile. Clubs in the French second division, Serie B, England's Division 1, or small leagues like Switzerland, Scotland, Belgium, Czech Republic, and the like, would not be willing to pay the sort of transfer fee that clubs demanded for a top Japanese player, but they would not consider a lesser-known Japanese player as worth signing in the first place. Matsui's success shows that even when a Japanese player is not "national team calibre", he may still be talented enough to make a strong contribution in Europe. This may open the market up for talented, but less well-known players from Japan to get an opportunity to play in Europe, even if it is in a less "glamorous" league. As Matsui has shown, this could be the first step towards a higher profile, and thus a useful career move for a young player.

^^^^^^^^Case and point..again

[los_ches]

Im sick and tired of everyones "Europe is everything" attitude in here. Europe IS NOT EVERYTHING

Do you see my point?

Ok maybe you have a point there as many talented young players from Brazil,Argentina & Africa are scouted and bought to Europe to play every year.I guess European Football is seen as the highest level of football since it contains most of the Worlds stars and richest (greediest:censored: )clubs,Unfair maybe but thats life.

[los_ches]

Though some may dismiss results in the second division of a less "famous" European footballing nation, one should not underestimate the importance that Matsui's success at Le Mans could have on the future of Japanese football and, in particular, the prevalence of Japanese players in Europe. Up to now, it has been a well accepted principle that unless a Japanese player could get an offer from a top European team, or at least a small team in a top European League, the economics would not make the move worthwhile. Clubs in the French second division, Serie B, England's Division 1, or small leagues like Switzerland, Scotland, Belgium, Czech Republic, and the like, would not be willing to pay the sort of transfer fee that clubs demanded for a top Japanese player, but they would not consider a lesser-known Japanese player as worth signing in the first place. Matsui's success shows that even when a Japanese player is not "national team calibre", he may still be talented enough to make a strong contribution in Europe. This may open the market up for talented, but less well-known players from Japan to get an opportunity to play in Europe, even if it is in a less "glamorous" league. As Matsui has shown, this could be the first step towards a higher profile, and thus a useful career move for a young player.

Thats how most of the current Australians went about it. Most recent would be Tim Cahill from Milwall to Everton.

[Toke-E-Yo]

Ok maybe you have a point there as many talented young players from Brazil,Argentina & Africa are scouted and bought to Europe to play every year.I guess European Football is seen as the highest level of football since it contains most of the Worlds stars and richest (greediest:censored: )clubs,Unfair maybe but thats life.


but look how many of them are just signed as a publicity stunt, and then just benched, I mean, I would rather be a starter in the J-League than a 2nd string bench reserve for a team like Fulham. Right?

[purger]

Europe is the place where fame and glory awaits you..

For many players it's better to be "last in the city rather then first in the village"

[Toke-E-Yo]

Europe is the place where fame and glory awaits you..

For many players it's better to be "last in the city rather then first in the village"


No England, Spain and Italy is were the glory lies. How much do u hear about the Bundesliga, Li Ligue or the Eridivise on TV (on a regular sports show)?

[purger]

England, Spain, Italy, Germany and perhaps France with few their clubs are under that cathegory where glory lies and big money is earned..

[davor_suker]

Japan doesnt need European players. We only had Nakamura and Nakata when we beat Greece and tied Brazil (which we should have WON) as our foreign players. Japan doesnt need European baes players, we have a decent league at home, and Japan has the best passworkings in Asia (depending on whos on the field) becuase we cant use our height and weight. Other than that I cant really think of what advantage Australia and Croatia have on Japan.

I never said you guys werent a good team, but you are definitely the weakest on paper.

NAKATA is a benchwarmer, and a key player for you guys.

Your league is nothing compared to European major leagues, and you know that.

[davor_suker]

well USA did beat Japan in feburary fair and square.



1) Mistuo Ogasawara
2) Ono Shinji
3) Abe Yuki
All 3 have been offered numerous contracts from the EPL, Serie A, La Liga, Eridenvise, and Bundesliga. Abe isnt even on the Japanese NT (he should be instead of Fukunishi) Ono (when not injured) is better than Kovac IMO (I have never seen Bresciano play) There are a whole bunch of players I can think go overseas who didnt get called up to the Japanese NT who are doing fine in Europe

1) Matusi Daisuke is the top assister in the French League, and has somehow been left off the squad for Germany
2) Hirayama Sato: Scored 8 goals in 31 games in the Eredivisie, most of which he came on as a sub.

Im sick and tired of everyones "Europe is everything" attitude in here. Europe IS NOT EVERYTHING

Look at Nakamura Shunsuke. How many people in here knew who he was in 2000? Hell, how many ppl in here knew who he was in 2003? Nakamura dominated in Japan, but no body knows that fact. Then he goes to Scotland and dominates, and suddenly everyone sees him?

Do you see my point?
Its every footballers dream to play in the J-League right? I mean who would want serie a or EPL? Fact is they didnt go because theyd be benchwarming flops like Nakamura.

Ono better than Kovac? Are you insane? If Ono had an inch of Kovac's talent he would be in Europe. Remember, Croatia isnt in the EU so they have to be better than the domestic players to get in their clubs, just like some of the Australians and your players in Europe.

Kovac is a starter for a club which is renowned for having the best defence in the world. Bayern Munich coaches have called him one of if not the best man marker in the world. Ono plays for who?

You guys struggled to score against Bahrain FFS. Australias second string team raped them (as they should.)

Besides that guys supposed assist rate in the French league your stats arent impressive. Shitty teams in Ligue 1 and Eredivisie arent that great. We have one of the best midfielders in the eredivisie in terms of goals and assists and he didnt get a look in for us.

Nakamura went to Scotland because he was GOOD enough, unlike the other players in your league. You guys concede against some shitty teams and fail to score against many others, yet you think youre better on paper :S

Its not like your clubs dominate Asia either. Hasnt some shitty saudi team won your version of the CL twice in a row???

Check out Croatia and Australias squadlist, please. Just take note of the clubs they play for.

I get the feeling Japans dominance of Asia will soon end. Australia are improving and I dont see Japan keeping up with an Australia on the rise.

[kewell_RuLeS.]

Its every footballers dream to play in the J-League right? I mean who would want serie a or EPL? Fact is they didnt go because theyd be benchwarming flops like Nakamura.

Ono better than Kovac? Are you insane? If Ono had an inch of Kovac's talent he would be in Europe. Remember, Croatia isnt in the EU so they have to be better than the domestic players to get in their clubs, just like some of the Australians and your players in Europe.

Kovac is a starter for a club which is renowned for having the best defence in the world. Bayern Munich coaches have called him one of if not the best man marker in the world. Ono plays for who?

You guys struggled to score against Bahrain FFS. Australias second string team raped them (as they should.)

Besides that guys supposed assist rate in the French league your stats arent impressive. Shitty teams in Ligue 1 and Eredivisie arent that great. We have one of the best midfielders in the eredivisie in terms of goals and assists and he didnt get a look in for us.

Nakamura went to Scotland because he was GOOD enough, unlike the other players in your league. You guys concede against some shitty teams and fail to score against many others, yet you think youre better on paper :S

Its not like your clubs dominate Asia either. Hasnt some shitty saudi team won your version of the CL twice in a row???

Check out Croatia and Australias squadlist, please. Just take note of the clubs they play for.

I get the feeling Japans dominance of Asia will soon end. Australia are improving and I dont see Japan keeping up with an Australia on the rise.

great post man~!, i'll give you that one.

[caruiz93]

brasil and japan will aadvance from this group and australia will be beat on by every team in that group(they are so bad they might even beat on themselves.

[caruiz93]

either japan or croatia im not sure

[Toke-E-Yo]

I have ntohing to say. Y bad mouth Croatia and Australia, all they will do is gang up on me, since I am one of 3 consistnet fans that posts, even though Australia and Croatia are both worse on paper. I will let Japan's actions be my words.

annnd this is exactly y I hate this forum....


I get the feeling Japans dominance of Asia will soon end. Australia are improving and I dont see Japan keeping up with an Australia on the rise.

FOR ***KS SAKE! AUSTRALIA MADE IT TO THE WORLD CUP BECUASE THE URAGUAYAN KEEPER DOVE THE WRONG WAY!

A win is a win yes, but to it through PK's doesnt prove ne thing. You should know that. PK's are an unforunate way of ending a game.

[kewell_RuLeS.]

annnd this is exactly y I hate this forum....



FOR ***KS SAKE! AUSTRALIA MADE IT TO THE WORLD CUP BECUASE THE URAGUAYAN KEEPER DOVE THE WRONG WAY!

A win is a win yes, but to it through PK's doesnt prove ne thing. You should know that. PK's are an unforunate way of ending a game.


yeah um toke.........that game in sydney?.......australia won the game 1-0 in reg time? australia beat them.

[davor_suker]

annnd this is exactly y I hate this forum....



FOR ***KS SAKE! AUSTRALIA MADE IT TO THE WORLD CUP BECUASE THE URAGUAYAN KEEPER DOVE THE WRONG WAY!

A win is a win yes, but to it through PK's doesnt prove ne thing. You should know that. PK's are an unforunate way of ending a game.

he purpose of a forum is banter between fans...if you dont like that then what are you doing here :rolleyes:

Australia beat Bahrain 3-1 in Bahrain with their second team. You know Japans results against Bahrain right?

If Ono is as you say better than Kovac, shouldnt he be joining Real Madrid/AC Milan or something instead of going from Feynoord BACK to Japan?

[danster]

Right now I am going to predict...

If Australia loses to Greece, they will not score one goal in Germany.

[Toke-E-Yo]

yeah um toke.........that game in sydney?.......australia won the game 1-0 in reg time? australia beat them.


and the uraguayans also beats u 1-0 in Uraguay rite?

[los_ches]

Toke-E-Yo the whole reason we have these forums is to debate and talk about other teams. I'm sorry there aren't that many Japanese fans contributing to this thread but you can't post statements and expect none of us to reply.

Go and post that Japan has a stronger team on paper than Australia and Croatia in a neutral forum and you will get a similar response.

Australia is a team which is getter better and has defeated big teams when we had crap domestic competition and crap opponents in our confederation in times when Japan was just emerging as a football nation. I admire what Japan has done in the last 10-15 yrs domestically and internationally and we in Australia hope to replicate it. You on the other hand have shown complete disrespect and contempt for Australian Football. I know you don't like some of the Australian fans but don't let your emotions cloud your football judgement.

Once in a while you have a brain explosion but overall you post some good stuff such as your analysis of the Japanese football team and I hope to see more good posts like that.

[los_ches]

yeah um toke.........that game in sydney?.......australia won the game 1-0 in reg time? australia beat them.

He is right we did make to the WC on penalties because Mark Schwazer dove the right way to stop the Uruguay shot.:ronaldo:

[los_ches]

Right now I am going to predict...

If Australia loses to Greece, they will not score one goal in Germany.

Ummmm and I predict Australia beats Greece & will go on to score a 1000 goals.:rolleyes:P.S-It's not a prediction if you begin with 'IF'!!!lolz...

Greece defends like no tommorow and has a Counter attack which is like lightning. Thats how they won Euro 2004. It would be quite an achievement if we get more than 1 goal against them but realistically I predict a 1 all draw.

[Toke-E-Yo]

Australia is a team which is getter better and has defeated big teams when we had crap domestic competition and crap opponents in our confederation in times when Japan was just emerging as a football nation. I admire what Japan has done in the last 10-15 yrs domestically and internationally and we in Australia hope to replicate it. You on the other hand have shown complete disrespect and contempt for Australian Football. I know you don't like some of the Australian fans but don't let your emotions cloud your football judgement.


I live by the saying "Put up or shut up". All these Australians keep claiming how great there team is, and how well there gonna do in the World Cup. Of course there may be a surprise, but Australia has done nothing to show me that they are capable of bein gon the WOrld Stage. I will watch the Greece V Aussie game, and maybe my view will change. But remeber, Japan also beat Greece in the confed cup, so even if Austrlai beat them, it means nothing. Also, it pisses me off that Australians keep claiming how well they are gonna do in the Asian Cup, when they have no clue how they will preform, because they have never appeared in a Asian Cup. Who knows, maybe they will do alright.

Theres a difference between pride and arrogance. Pride is when you accomplish something, and you remember it. Arrogance is when you just think youve done something and then ride the high. Big differnce between the two.

[danster]

Ummmm and I predict Australia beats Greece & will go on to score a 1000 goals.:rolleyes:P.S-It's not a prediction if you begin with 'IF'!!!lolz...

Greece defends like no tommorow and has a Counter attack which is like lightning. Thats how they won Euro 2004. It would be quite an achievement if we get more than 1 goal against them but realistically I predict a 1 all draw.

No it is a prediction because I am stating that IF Australia loses, then they will not score any goals in Germany. They will not score any goals in Germany is my prediction, if my anticedent is affirmed.

[davor_suker]

I live by the saying "Put up or shut up". All these Australians keep claiming how great there team is, and how well there gonna do in the World Cup. Of course there may be a surprise, but Australia has done nothing to show me that they are capable of bein gon the WOrld Stage. I will watch the Greece V Aussie game, and maybe my view will change. But remeber, Japan also beat Greece in the confed cup, so even if Austrlai beat them, it means nothing. Also, it pisses me off that Australians keep claiming how well they are gonna do in the Asian Cup, when they have no clue how they will preform, because they have never appeared in a Asian Cup. Who knows, maybe they will do alright.

Theres a difference between pride and arrogance. Pride is when you accomplish something, and you remember it. Arrogance is when you just think youve done something and then ride the high. Big differnce between the two.

You act as if Japan is a powerhouse of world football. Ill repeat AGAIN the results Australia had against Bahrain, but youll probably just ignore this post like my other ones ;)

Australian fans have been arrogant, but I as a neutral can say AUSTRALIA is stronger than JAPAN on paper - but thankfully, the game isnt played on paper, is it?

[kewell_RuLeS.]

arrogant is my middle name!, my arrogance will turn into pride come world cup time, lets see if japan can shut me up?.

on a side note, i'll be the first to admit if australia gets out played, and i'll give full credit to croatia or japan! but until it happens......well i'll believe australia's better.

[davor_suker]

arrogant is my middle name!, my arrogance will turn into pride come world cup time, lets see if japan can shut me up?.

on a side note, i'll be the first to admit if australia gets out played, and i'll give full credit to croatia or japan! but until it happens......well i'll believe australia's better.

Theres a thin line between arrogance and disrespect. You have really disrespected my team, although you see in the posts above i show respect and actually stick up for you guys.

Please remove the sig, and lets approach this like civilised people who can debate without insults.

[Toke-E-Yo]

You act as if Japan is a powerhouse of world football. Ill repeat AGAIN the results Australia had against Bahrain, but youll probably just ignore this post like my other ones ;)

Australian fans have been arrogant, but I as a neutral can say AUSTRALIA is stronger than JAPAN on paper - but thankfully, the game isnt played on paper, is it?


Not a powerhouse of Wolrd Football. A Powerhouse of Asian Football, which those aussies presumed they could just walk in and get the top tier.

PS. How do u know Bahrain had their A Team? You dont seem to follow the Bahrain team. But we also won against Bahrain. Twice. Iran tied and won, so does that mean Australia is better than Iran to?

[Toke-E-Yo]

Theres a thin line between arrogance and disrespect. You have really disrespected my team, although you see in the posts above i show respect and actually stick up for you guys.

Please remove the sig, and lets approach this like civilised people who can debate without insults.


hes already changed it once, and thats good enough for me :rolling: :ronaldo:

[Sleeper]

1. Australia
2. Brazil
3. Croatia
4. Japan

Well, that's alphabethical order :)

FIFA's list says:
1. Brazil
2. Japan
3. Croatia
4. Australia

Using common sense:
1. Brazil
2. Croatia
3. Australia
4. Japan

And my heart is for:
1. Croatia
2. Australia
3. Japan
4. Brazil

And finally, rating by ignorance of fans:
1. Australia
2. Australia
3. Australia
4. Australia
:sad:

[Toke-E-Yo]

And finally, rating by ignorance of fans:
1. Australia
2. Australia
3. Australia
4. Australia
:sad:

agreed.

Getting to the World Cup is just gettin to the World Cup. from here the fun begins.

Winning the world cup is everything. somethign which i doubt the aussies will be able to do (but then again, probably neither will Japan and Croatia)

[tdr]

Australia is not as weak as people at SFN precieve them, but they don't stand a chance against Brasil.

[purger]

I got myself few crates of this for upcoming WC :D

And I'm not willing to share with anyone :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9OrejS-OYs&search=croatia

[Dado_Prso_09]

I got myself few crates of this for upcoming WC :D

And I'm not willing to share with anyone :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9OrejS-OYs&search=croatia
lol sweet video

[Toke-E-Yo]

yah im stokcin up on Asahi.

still need to deice on what kind of english beer tho.

[tdr]

Thats all we need more drunk fans.


@Purger: Are you a member of PHP (Pijmo Hrvatska Piva!)?

[tdr]

I'm watching the world cup with http://www.sarajevska-pivara.ba/images/products/large/23.jpg (0% Alcohol)

[purger]

Thats all we need more drunk fans.


@Purger: Are you a member of PHP (Pijmo Hrvatska Piva!)?

Of course I am :D

Zuja je zakon!!!

It's better to watch the game with few cold ones on reach of your hands then drinking lemonade..

[Vatreni!]

Not a powerhouse of Wolrd Football. A Powerhouse of Asian Football, which those aussies presumed they could just walk in and get the top tier.

PS. How do u know Bahrain had their A Team? You dont seem to follow the Bahrain team. But we also won against Bahrain. Twice. Iran tied and won, so does that mean Australia is better than Iran to?
Ha, Ha, Ha. Being a powerhouse of Asian football is nothing to be proud of. Let the Japanese national team that we appreciate them coming out to be a field filler for the tournament better luck in 2010!

Vatreni will shock the world June 13!

[Toke-E-Yo]

Vatreni will shock the world June 13!

who?

:lol:

[Vatreni!]

We are the most talented country in the world per head of population. We have 4million people yet have no trouble with most larger European teams.

To say we cannot produce our own talent, im sorry but that just highlights how dumb you really are and shows you know nothing of football.

Google these names, retard -

Davor Suker
Alen ***sic
Robert Prosinecki
Zvonimir Boban
Mario Stanic

We have a more complete team than Germany this year. Compare us man for man, besides some midfielders our team is better.


Word Brother!

[balun]

So the 7 'australian' players with Croatian heritage are now 'australian' and somehow 'better' than Croatia? Japan think that they are brazillian because they play 'brazillian style'? Does that make Australia like the 'Dutch' or 'Croatia'? This group will be entertaining, but that's about it. Croatia and Brazil will play maybe Italy (as over-rated as France) and Czech Republic, and both Brazil and Croatia will go on. Italy need to start playing soccer and visit their hairdressers and jewellers less often if they want to win the world cup again..

[Toke-E-Yo]

Japan think that they are brazillian because they play 'brazillian style'?

no, its becuase Zico is the coach, and the majority of the NT coaches are brazilians.

[balun]

Toke-E-Yo;Do you even know which football code we are all talking about here? Your arrogance and ignorance is very disrespectful to a team like Croatia, and I would even say Australia (yes, even Australia will kick the shit out of your Japanese arses). Stop reading fifa's ratings and thinking that they mean anything real, and stop deluding yourself that a brazillian coach will drag Japan further than fourth spot in group F. Sayonara Japan, thanks for coming!

[balun]

Japan, learn these Croatian names: enjoy your picnic in Germany - you're the breakfast, lunch and dinner!!!

Tomislav Butina (Club Brugge, Belgium)
Joey Didulica (FK Austria Wien, Austria)
Stipe Pletikosa (HNK Hajduk Split)

Robert Kovač (Juventus F.C., Italy)
Dario Šimić (A.C. Milan, Italy)
Josip Šimunić (Hertha BSC Berlin, Germany}
Mario Tokić (FK Austria Wien, Austria)
Stjepan Tomas (Galatasaray, Turkey)

Marko Babić (Bayer Leverkusen, Germany)
Niko Kranjčar (Hajduk Split, Croatia)
Niko Kovač (Hertha BSC Berlin, Germany)
Ivan Leko (Club Brugge, Belgium)
Jerko Leko (Dynamo Kiev, Ukraine)
Luka Modrić (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia)
Anthony Šerić (Panathinaikos FC, Greece)
Darijo Srna (Shakhtar Donetsk, Ukraine)
Igor Tudor (A.C. Siena, Italy)
Jurica Vranješ (Werder Bremen, Germany)

Boško Balaban (Club Brugge,Belgium)
Ivan Bošnjak (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia)
Ivan Klasnić (Werder Bremen, Germany)
Ivica Olić (CSKA Moscow, Russian Federation)
Dado Pršo (Rangers FC, Scotland)

Marijan Buljat (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia)

Jebo ti ja - (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia)
Mater Japansku - (Hajduk Split, Croatia)

[Sleeper]

Jebo ti ja - (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia)
Mater Japansku - (Hajduk Split, Croatia)
:lol: :lol: :lol:

To translate: Day-ne muty, na-karru-my-chy-chy.

[kewell_RuLeS.]

i have been told to change my sig! must of been the croatian mods having a cry!......what happened to freedom of speach?, i think the croatia team is shit.....get over it!

i hope japan smashes croatia! i really do,

and balun, lets trace back the heritage of the croatian players, they won't be croatian then will they.

[stralian]

Japan, learn these Croatian names: enjoy your picnic in Germany - you're the breakfast, lunch and dinner!!!

Tomislav Butina (Club Brugge, Belgium)
Joey Didulica (FK Austria Wien, Austria)
Stipe Pletikosa (HNK Hajduk Split)

Robert Kovač (Juventus F.C., Italy)
Dario Šimić (A.C. Milan, Italy)
Josip Šimunić (Hertha BSC Berlin, Germany}
Mario Tokić (FK Austria Wien, Austria)
Stjepan Tomas (Galatasaray, Turkey)

Marko Babić (Bayer Leverkusen, Germany)
Niko Kranjčar (Hajduk Split, Croatia)
Niko Kovač (Hertha BSC Berlin, Germany)
Ivan Leko (Club Brugge, Belgium)
Jerko Leko (Dynamo Kiev, Ukraine)
Luka Modrić (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia)
Anthony Šerić (Panathinaikos FC, Greece)
Darijo Srna (Shakhtar Donetsk, Ukraine)
Igor Tudor (A.C. Siena, Italy)
Jurica Vranješ (Werder Bremen, Germany)

Boško Balaban (Club Brugge,Belgium)
Ivan Bošnjak (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia)
Ivan Klasnić (Werder Bremen, Germany)
Ivica Olić (CSKA Moscow, Russian Federation)
Dado Pršo (Rangers FC, Scotland)

Marijan Buljat (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia)

Jebo ti ja - (Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia)
Mater Japansku - (Hajduk Split, Croatia)

It's funny how half of those players aren't regulars for their club.

[stralian]

but yeah, i agree. they're on some impressive payrolls

[balun]

C'mon aussies, have the decency to acknowledge Croatian contribution to soccer in Australia, or is that too much to ask? Go on, pleeeeaasseeee....

[Toke-E-Yo]

Toke-E-Yo;Do you even know which football code we are all talking about here? Your arrogance and ignorance is very disrespectful to a team like Croatia, and I would even say Australia (yes, even Australia will kick the shit out of your Japanese arses). Stop reading fifa's ratings and thinking that they mean anything real, and stop deluding yourself that a brazillian coach will drag Japan further than fourth spot in group F. Sayonara Japan, thanks for coming!


so Im just wondrin wat ur basing this on? it seems to be all personal opinion, and where have I made a arrogant post against croatians? I just said that I believe Australia needs to put up or shut up, and that just because the majority of Japanese players on the NT play in Japan, doesnt mean that they would be able to make it in Europe. Comparing my post to yours, mine comes out as Blair and you come out as Bush :usa2:

Also, show me were I said that a Brazilian coach will "drag Japan further than fourth spot"

Im tired of all these moron croatians and Australians ganging up on me becuase I disagree. Half you idiots dont even know what the Japanese NT's capability is, becuase you haven't watched any games, while on the other hand, I watched most of the World Cup Qualifier games (including Croatia VS Malta, Bulgaira, Hungary and Sweden) and also Australia's final qualifying against Uraguay.

Japan must have done something rite, becuase we made it to the World Cup and also at the top of our group, we won the Asian Cup in 2000 and 2004, as well as upsetting Greece (and brazil kinda, most of YOU said it would be an outrite win for Brazil) in the confed cup, and if memory serves, made it out of the Group Stages in 2002. Then again those mean nothing (ecept the WC Qualifying and the Asian Cup) so you wont mind me say anything when all y'all say "well...Croatia was 2rd in 1998..."

[stralian]

C'mon aussies, have the decency to acknowledge Croatian contribution to soccer in Australia, or is that too much to ask? Go on, pleeeeaasseeee....

You should be thanking us for teaching the best defender you have.

[stralian]

Viduka and Culina will probably be the only AUSTRALIAN (with Croatian roots) playing regularly at the world cup. we also have guys with Italian decent but you don't see the Italians getting all pissy because they're not a bunch of fags... well compared to you guys.

Viduka, Culina, Skoko, etc = Australian
Simunic, Seric, etc = Australians that wanted to play in the world cup.

[balun]

'stralilan' (in your case - 'yobbo')

You're happy to call everyone AUSTRALIAN when it suits you - until you get the crap beaten out of you - then you happily call us 'wogs' and 'fags' (although never to our face, that takes guts) - and that's the best you will ever be able to come up with.

You've never had, or will have the dignity to acknowledge Croatian contribution to this otherwise fine country, and I mean that - Australia is a great country and most Croatians will be happy for Australia to do well.. You, on the other hand are a moron, and an embarassement to yourself and Australia.

[balun]

Viduka, Culina, Skoko, etc = Australian
Simunic, Seric, etc = Australians that wanted to play in the world cup.[/QUOTE]

By the way, I'd love to see you send your caption (above) to the players you call 'australian'.. HA HA HA

Who's crying being the fag here?? You're nothing but a yobbo, and an embarrassment to all Australians.

[balun]

Toke yo - no need to compare anyone to Bush please, let's keep this above the belt.. You're all right though, maybe I was a little harsh on you - let's just leave Bush out of this ok?

[Tickets]

Toke yo - no need to compare anyone to Bush please, let's keep this above the belt.. You're all right though, maybe I was a little harsh on you - let's just leave Bush out of this ok?


WTF???? :loco:

[Tickets]

Tokes just flys the flag for his country - good on ya matey!

:thumbsup:

:fencing:

[balun]

[QUOTE=Tickets]Tokes just flys the flag for his country - good on ya matey!


Agreed... but has to understand other people flying their flag for their country too.. No need to insult anyone by comparing them to Bush..

[Tickets]

[QUOTE=Tickets]Tokes just flys the flag for his country - good on ya matey!


Agreed... but has to understand other people flying their flag for their country too.. No need to insult anyone by comparing them to Bush..

again - i repeat.....WTF :loco:



:fencing:

[kewell_RuLeS.]

'stralilan' (in your case - 'yobbo')

You're happy to call everyone AUSTRALIAN when it suits you - until you get the crap beaten out of you - then you happily call us 'wogs' and 'fags' (although never to our face, that takes guts) - and that's the best you will ever be able to come up with.

You've never had, or will have the dignity to acknowledge Croatian contribution to this otherwise fine country, and I mean that - Australia is a great country and most Croatians will be happy for Australia to do well.. You, on the other hand are a moron, and an embarassement to yourself and Australia.

get back in your hole balun!, you couldn't beat the crap out of my kitten!, stralilan keep fighting for australia champ! something this punk can't seem to do! sounds like another wannabe croatian! :boo:

tell me what has croatia done for australian football? it's only taken off since an aussie took over ( john o'neil) , and the mainstream is getting behind the game!

[kewell_RuLeS.]

and toke, keep fighting the good fight man, your out numbered........hell don't let that stop you! give as good as you get ;)

[Tickets]

:ronaldo:


naa - I got nothing left in the bag tonight!

g'night all and to all a g'night

:boxing:

[danster]

Don't worry Tokes, Danster has your back!

Samurai Blue will go all the way. Sensei Zico has done great things for this team, as shown by that pure sex passwork to put Kaji through on goal in the first moments of Japan V Brazil. Oh my god that passwork was so hot I don't know why it just turns me on. Can't wait for June 12 when Chef Nakamura makes sushi of Australia!

[kewell_RuLeS.]

sweet danster, i want a few more japenese guys around for when we beat you on june 12 lol, toke can't cop it all, lets just hope everyone beats croatia ;).

[Rowdy]

Australians with Croatian heritage along with many other ethnic groups (Greeks, Italians etc etc) have contributed a lot to Australian football. In many ways they kept the sport going for many years when the general public were not interested, and many have brought with them a wealth of football knowledge, and for that we owe them a huge debt. But they have also contributed to holding it back with the ethnic tensions and violence that they also brought to Australia eg the recent Bonnyrigg vs Sydney united clashes and many others over time. One of the most fustrating thing throughout my career playing and lifetime as a fan was the "old world" problems which marred the game and seems to hold back this forum as well. I played for some of these clubs and at times it was very uncomfortable being a "skip" with some surrounding incidents, but the players respected the football and my abilities which was all that was needed to become accepted. (opposing fans not so much :D ) Views may be different but respect of each other, their countries, opinions, and teams is all that is needed.
Now the game is possibly on the verge of catching the imagination of the whole country with the new non-ethnic clubs in the A-League giving Australians of all backgrounds teams whole city's can support not just ethnic groups. I will be at the Greece game with some Greek friends, they will be wearing blue and I will be wearing Gold but they will be there supporting football, the greek team and the Socceroos. Just like my parents do when Aust play New Zealand in anything!
Sermon over......

I do not agree with some of the Australian posters attitudes or some of the Croat or Japanese posters on here. I have high hopes for the socceroos and believe they can get out of this group, but am realistic to know that Croatia are a good team, Japan are capable (although I am pretty confident against them) and Brazil, well anything can happen :D

[balun]

Rowdy, its refreshing to read a civilised post in the forum. Thank you.

[nimesh0775]

For some reason, I think Australia will get through with Brazil. But will go out in the second round.

Japan are probably gonna finish bottom of the group. I think Aus will get past Croatia, because Croatia are way too defensive.

If Viduka can hit top form Aus should get through their group.

[Ero]

sweet danster, i want a few more japenese guys around for when we beat you on june 12 lol, toke can't cop it all, lets just hope everyone beats croatia ;).

i bet when you see a group of croatians in australia wearing their checkered jerseys, you dont say any of the crap you say here because they would kick your ass for saying they are australian and not croatian

australia's soccer team would suck without croatians so show some respect to their country

[Jian]

Brazil will come at the top in the group. The second slot seem to be open; anyone of those teams are capable of filling the slot. my bet is on Japan

[davor_suker]

Kewell, I didnt complain about your sig, I just appealed to you (see earlier post in thread) to be sporting and take it down.


It's funny how half of those players aren't regulars for their club.

Really? I suggest you do some Math, because theres no way half of those players arent regulars.

The only player who starts for us who doesnt start all his club games is Babic. I dont know how many times you have to be told about the Kovac situation, but ill let you know again - he was SIGNED as a REPLACEMENT for Thuram - Thuram was going to finish the season, and then be relegated to the bench. In preparation for NEXT season, Robert Kovac has been starting ALL the games since the CL exit. Understand man?

Simic is a benchie for Milan, but hes also a benchie for us. Hes had offers to play first team in the EPL for some midtable teams, but Milan is Milan. Just like Spider is considered equal competition to Schwarzer who plays every week for a worse club.


You should be thanking us for teaching the best defender you have.

Another post of wisdom from the ever brilliant stralian. You have obviously never seen a game of ours. Simunic is world class yes, and would be australias best defender, but he isnt our best. See Igor Tudor and your friend Robert Kovac.


Viduka and Culina will probably be the only AUSTRALIAN (with Croatian roots) playing regularly at the world cup. we also have guys with Italian decent but you don't see the Italians getting all pissy because they're not a bunch of fags... well compared to you guys.

Way to show your bigoted views. You're obviously some dumb convict who doesnt recognise the contribution of ethnic groups to football in Australia. Croatians are the best ethnic group at football in Australia, deal with it. I know theyre Australian, but im talking their ethnicity here.



Viduka, Culina, Skoko, etc = Australian
Simunic, Seric, etc = Australians that wanted to play in the world cup.

Heres an idea son, let them choose their own identity. They are proud of their roots (even the Australian-Croatians you mentioned) and all of those players you mentioned consider themselves Australian Croatians. We live in a multicultural society, its an identity, and they certainly arent convicts like yourself.


tell me what has croatia done for australian football? it's only taken off since an aussie took over ( john o'neil) , and the mainstream is getting behind the game!

:rolleyes::sick:

[OfTheJuNgle]

Like everyone said brazil will get the 1º spot easily
For the 2º spot well.. its pretty hard to assure anything but i think japan will go through.
Just one thing, no matter who will be the 2º on this group they will loose on the second round probably against czech rep. or italy

[stralian]

Kewell, I didnt complain about your sig, I just appealed to you (see earlier post in thread) to be sporting and take it down.



Really? I suggest you do some Math, because theres no way half of those players arent regulars.

The only player who starts for us who doesnt start all his club games is Babic. I dont know how many times you have to be told about the Kovac situation, but ill let you know again - he was SIGNED as a REPLACEMENT for Thuram - Thuram was going to finish the season, and then be relegated to the bench. In preparation for NEXT season, Robert Kovac has been starting ALL the games since the CL exit. Understand man?

Simic is a benchie for Milan, but hes also a benchie for us. Hes had offers to play first team in the EPL for some midtable teams, but Milan is Milan. Just like Spider is considered equal competition to Schwarzer who plays every week for a worse club.



Another post of wisdom from the ever brilliant stralian. You have obviously never seen a game of ours. Simunic is world class yes, and would be australias best defender, but he isnt our best. See Igor Tudor and your friend Robert Kovac.



Way to show your bigoted views. You're obviously some dumb convict who doesnt recognise the contribution of ethnic groups to football in Australia. Croatians are the best ethnic group at football in Australia, deal with it. I know theyre Australian, but im talking their ethnicity here.



Heres an idea son, let them choose their own identity. They are proud of their roots (even the Australian-Croatians you mentioned) and all of those players you mentioned consider themselves Australian Croatians. We live in a multicultural society, its an identity, and they certainly arent convicts like yourself.



:rolleyes::sick:

suck my ass, i have to go to work so i will argue with you later.

[purger]

suck my ass

Words of wisdom from our friend stralian..

[purger]

get back in your hole balun!, you couldn't beat the crap out of my kitten!, stralilan keep fighting for australia champ! something this punk can't seem to do! sounds like another wannabe croatian! :boo:

tell me what has croatia done for australian football? it's only taken off since an aussie took over ( john o'neil) , and the mainstream is getting behind the game!

I see they let you out from kindergarten earlier again

[tdr]

i can see Australians and Croatians are ready for the world cup

Will there be a AUS/CRO clash at the WC?

[kewell_RuLeS.]

i bet when you see a group of croatians in australia wearing their checkered jerseys, you dont say any of the crap you say here because they would kick your ass for saying they are australian and not croatian

australia's soccer team would suck without croatians so show some respect to their country


you seem to think australians are scared of ethnic groups? think again, were not the ones who have to run around in packs to feel safe and big!.

it really is sad that croatia need to claim australian players, such a small country........such big egoes! such little talent!, so little home grown talent :evil:

[tdr]

i heard of that
How many Australians are on Croatian team?

[kewell_RuLeS.]

Way to show your bigoted views. You're obviously some dumb convict who doesnt recognise the contribution of ethnic groups to football in Australia. Croatians are the best ethnic group at football in Australia, deal with it. I know theyre Australian, but im talking their ethnicity here.



Heres an idea son, let them choose their own identity. They are proud of their roots (even the Australian-Croatians you mentioned) and all of those players you mentioned consider themselves Australian Croatians. We live in a multicultural society, its an identity, and they certainly arent convicts like yourself.



:rolleyes::sick:

davor your like the only croatian fans here who i can stand!, but this post pissed me off! so i'm gonna tea off on your ass.

if your racist AGAIN! i will report you!
those dumb convict's built this country! the backbone that made this country what it is today!, the same country you enjoy......you ungreatful little punk!.

please i fail to see what ethnic groups did for football in this country? they tryed to claim it as theres? they keep the sport in the dark ages with all the ethnic bullshit.

[davor_suker]

suck my ass

Excellent response.


you seem to think australians are scared of ethnic groups? think again, were not the ones who have to run around in packs to feel safe and big!.

it really is sad that croatia need to claim australian players, such a small country........such big egoes! such little talent!, so little home grown talent :evil:

A lot of ethnic groups in Australia are dickheads, we all know that. But its stupid to generalise like that. Croatians arent the ones who go around in packs fighting Australians in front of pubs.

I dont know how many times you have to be told...they chose US. We didnt beg them to come, they chose off their own back. Deal with it, would you prefer to have them forced to play for Australia?

Mate I have lived in both countries, and played football in both countries and ill tell you now Australia has a long way to go with junior football. I could probably go around to all the parks in Zagreb and Split and form a team from those players that could beat a state league team here. Dont believe me? I played state league, do you ;)


if your racist AGAIN! i will report you!
those dumb convict's built this country! the backbone that made this country what it is today!, the same country you enjoy......you ungreatful little punk!.

I wasnt racist against all Australians, i called stralian a dumb convict. Theres a difference.

How do you know where I live? Take a glance to the left will you?

[balun]

To Kewell Rules - How would the real Harry Kewell feel if he knew what you stood for whilst hiding behind his good name?

Your problem is that your idea of national pride is based on hating other cultures, and unrealistic bias - you have said nothing in this forum that shows how or why you actually care about Australian soccer!

All Australian-Croatians cheered when Australian team qualified for the World Cup - you're just pissing Croatians off because it's easy to do when hiding behid bad writing!).
What is really pissing you off though?? Is it that most of your fellow Australians would also think you're a yobbo, and would probably be embarrassed by your very ordinary contribution to this forum? I think so!!

Difference between the Croatian supporters and you in this forum, is that they're stupid for expecting you to behave in a 'sporting' manner, but you just wanted to show what a racist yobbo YOU really are, and you have succeeded. You think you care for australia because you hate everyone who isn't australian - you need to wake up mate (and grow a spine, mostly everyone has one).

You will never stop any ethnic group being proud of their heritage and culture - know Croatians (Italians, Greeks, maltese, etc..) have earned that right!! Your contribution to this forum has been limited to showing how much of a racist yobbo you really are.

And another thing; for every one of us bothering to respond to you, think about how many others are reading your childish crap, and what opinion they get about you and your 'vision' of Australia!

Croatia - Great
Brazil - Great
Japan - Great
Australia - Great (without you in it).

Now go and feed your kitten and get a big L tatooed on your forehead - don't be embarassed, show the world what a loser you are, you yobbo.

[holicman]

Guys, lets Avoid racism and insults ok ?

This is the only warning i am giving on this.

[kewell_RuLeS.]

To Kewell Rules - How would the real Harry Kewell feel if he knew what you stood for whilst hiding behind his good name?

Your problem is that your idea of national pride is based on hating other cultures, and unrealistic bias - you have said nothing in this forum that shows how or why you actually care about Australian soccer!

All Australian-Croatians cheered when Australian team qualified for the World Cup - you're just pissing Croatians off because it's easy to do when hiding behid bad writing!).
What is really pissing you off though?? Is it that most of your fellow Australians would also think you're a yobbo, and would probably be embarrassed by your very ordinary contribution to this forum? I think so!!

Difference between the Croatian supporters and you in this forum, is that they're stupid for expecting you to behave in a 'sporting' manner, but you just wanted to show what a racist yobbo YOU really are, and you have succeeded. You think you care for australia because you hate everyone who isn't australian - you need to wake up mate (and grow a spine, mostly everyone has one).

You will never stop any ethnic group being proud of their heritage and culture - know Croatians (Italians, Greeks, maltese, etc..) have earned that right!! Your contribution to this forum has been limited to showing how much of a racist yobbo you really are.

And another thing; for every one of us bothering to respond to you, think about how many others are reading your childish crap, and what opinion they get about you and your 'vision' of Australia!

Croatia - Great
Brazil - Great
Japan - Great
Australia - Great (without you in it).

Now go and feed your kitten and get a big L tatooed on your forehead - don't be embarassed, show the world what a loser you are, you yobbo.

i tend to listen to davor more this crap!, because he brings up some good points, but you on the other hand :boo:........ my vision of australia? what the hell are you on about man?, how am i a racist? people use that word alot, do you even know the meaning >? shouldn't i want them to leave australia if i hated them so much? i wouldn't want them to be australian with the rest of us if i was racist bumb ass!

your the one lableing me a YoBBO.....is that racist?

and you forgot i really don't give a crap if people like me or not ;) :star: :lol:

mate you can be proud of your background all you want, but if you live in and enjoy this country, use it's resources, live on it's land, enjoy it's lifestyle, you should be loyal to that country first!, not somewhere that your parents
lived!, this is only a football game.....so it's only abit of fun!, go for whoever you like, but if croatian and australia were in a war, i would hope people born in this country would defend australia! see my point i'm trying to make!.

[kewell_RuLeS.]

Excellent response.



A lot of ethnic groups in Australia are dickheads, we all know that. But its stupid to generalise like that. Croatians arent the ones who go around in packs fighting Australians in front of pubs.

I dont know how many times you have to be told...they chose US. We didnt beg them to come, they chose off their own back. Deal with it, would you prefer to have them forced to play for Australia?

Mate I have lived in both countries, and played football in both countries and ill tell you now Australia has a long way to go with junior football. I could probably go around to all the parks in Zagreb and Split and form a team from those players that could beat a state league team here. Dont believe me? I played state league, do you ;)



I wasnt racist against all Australians, i called stralian a dumb convict. Theres a difference.

How do you know where I live? Take a glance to the left will you?

that's a fair enough post!,

but....... and you can have the australian born players who now call croatia home, we really don't care, we just use it to show how stupid the croatians argument is, you're the ones making fools of your selfs when arguing that point ;) :sad:

[balun]

Kewell Rulez - stop crying - How is calling you a 'yobbo' racist? It is not referring to your nationality or religion, or skin colour etc.. Trust you to get peeved off at that but your anti-ethnic banter is apparently ok?! You want to give, but cry when having to take it!!

Also, your back-tracking atempt is pathetic, and now - after all you've written , you think davor_suker or any other Australian/Croatian is going to stick up for you??

You were one of those bullies at school where you picked on little Croatians 'till they grew up and bitch slapped you around..

Talk about crying!! (Have you fed your kitten yet??)..

[kewell_RuLeS.]

Kewell Rulez - stop crying - How is calling you a 'yobbo' racist? It is not referring to your nationality or religion, or skin colour etc.. Trust you to get peeved off at that but your anti-ethnic banter is apparently ok?! You want to give, but cry when having to take it!!

Also, your back-tracking atempt is pathetic, and now - after all you've written , you think davor_suker or any other Australian/Croatian is going to stick up for you??

You were one of those bullies at school where you picked on little Croatians 'till they grew up and bitch slapped you around..

Talk about crying!! (Have you fed your kitten yet??)..

a good example kiddies........drugs are bad! :lol:

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I reckon the problem here is attitude and percieved self worth.
And the SFN supporters of Croatia have a hell of a lot of it, and this has a tendancy to rub everyone else the wrong way.
Still trying to convince them otherwise is like trying to :deadhorse:

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