Group D

[stuglue]

Please discuss your team and the group here

Teams
Mexico
Iran
Portugal
Angola

[stuglue]

This should be interesting with Mexico and Portugal at a similar level,but don't rule out Angola trying their hardest to beat former colonial leaders Portugal

[brazuca5copas]

1° Mexico
2° Portugal

[stuglue]

This won't be as clear cut as it looks.Iran have to beat Mexico in the first match to stand any chance of progressing.

[unam_mx]

Pretty easy group to pronosticate...unless some crazy, miraculous, weird surprise happens it should be Mexico and Portugal advancing.I think the only question is who will advance first in the group.

[Ronni]

I also don't see any chances for Iran and Angola.
But I think Portugal should get the first place.
Anyway the next round will be very, very hard - probably for both the end of the tournament getting most likely Argentina and Holland ...

[masterfigo]

I also don't see any chances for Iran and Angola.
But I think Portugal should get the first place.


Well, I also think that portugal should be in 1st place... and mexico 2nd. But... Iran isn't a weak team, they play a beautiful football. You should see. They are terrific!

all the groups are difficult to prognosticate this year... that should be a great WC.

[soniq]

iran will surprise yall,we will get a draw from portugal and beat mexico and angola and we will advance to the round of 16

[toronto_soccer]

portugal
iran

[supersjd]

portugal better not mess this up. Portugal is expected to make it through with ease which puts more pressure on them. hopefully they can play well and pull through. just watch out for iran.

[frankie0006]

1st portugal
2nd angola

[only123123]

portugal
iran


I think Mexico is stronger than Iran

[Ronni]

In my opinion Iran is one of those teams that are excellent when they play easy opponents, but show all their problems when they are in front of some tactically and technically stronger team.
Imo they could hold Portugal and Mexico for a while, but they don't have much chances of getting a point from any of both.
Mexico and Portugal will be deciding the first place on the group among themselves, and possibly the goal difference from the matches against Angola and Iran could make it possible to face a Serbia or an Ivory Coast that were able to throw Argentina or Holland out of the tournament. If both Argentina and Holland go through, it will be really hard for both Portugal and Mexico, and it won't be important to be 1st or 2nd.

[stuglue]

I've never quite been convinced by Mexico they are far too inconsistent.They can give very good matches against good opposition and then collapse against supposed weak teams.

[supersjd]

I've never quite been convinced by Mexico they are far too inconsistent.They can give very good matches against good opposition and then collapse against supposed weak teams.

it's true mexico is very inconsistent. i hope that trend continues.

[stuglue]

The opening game for Portugal could be a real battle as they play Angola.By the time they come to the 2nd match Iran may well have no points but Portugal with the midfielders they have should be able to give the shaky Iranian defence a torrid time.By the 3rd game both Portugal and Mexico could be playing for top spot.

[soniq]

I think Mexico is stronger than Iran
think again!

[supersjd]

think again!

both teams are strong. it's going to be great when they play together. very hard to say who would win.

[unam_mx]

Are u guys kidding?Comparing Iran to Mexico and not knowing who will win?So I guess they'll give problems to Portugal as well right...cause they arent much better (if at all) then Mexico.

This is ridiculous, Im still amazed at how much Mexico is getting disrespected...I cant wait till they prove all these doubters/haters wrong.Im going to say it right now--they will atleast reach the quarterfinals.I know they will likely get Holland/Argentina but Im still sticking with it.They may not be as good as those teams but they have the capability to sneak up and beat them, this team will not accept another 2nd rd exit.

[stuglue]

The question is will Meixico EVER get past the quarter final stage.Nobody would realistically bet on them to be a contender to win the tournament

[unam_mx]

The question is will Meixico EVER get past the quarter final stage.Nobody would realistically bet on them to be a contender to win the tournament

Yes, probably in 4-12 yrs...when the guy on my sig will be tearing it up for Barca and the Mexican NT and when some of those other U-17 world champs mature enough.Im aware that not all of them will grow up to be as good professionally as they were as amateurs but there's some that have star written all over them.

I think Mexico's golden generation (atleast compared to what theyve had so far) is on its way, and for now a quarterfinal would be good enough.

[Lion Heart]

I think Iran and Mexico will make it from this group. IMO Portugal will choke again like in 2002.

[Ronni]

Yes, probably in 4-12 yrs...when the guy on my sig will be tearing it up for Barca and the Mexican NT and when some of those other U-17 world champs mature enough.Im aware that not all of them will grow up to be as good professionally as they were as amateurs but there's some that have star written all over them.

I think Mexico's golden generation (atleast compared to what theyve had so far) is on its way, and for now a quarterfinal would be good enough.
Don't count on this.
A U-17 title doesn't necessarily mean at all a "golden generation". I'll give you an example: Brazil won this title in 1997 and 1999. These guys should be right now all about 25, i.e., old enough to be famous, being playing in the best teams in the world etc. I'll give you the entire list of both teams, with the names how they're well known. The ones I'm quite sure you know are bold:

Fabio, Andrey, Rogerio, Fernando, Abel, Jorginho, Diogo, Ferrugem, Fabio Pinto, Ronaldinho, Matuzalem, Raniere, Flavio, Henrique, Carlos Gaviao, Adiel, Geovani, Anailson, Rubinho, Leite, Marquinhos, Ricardo, Eduardo, Anderson, Leo, Walker, Souza, Caca, Leandro, Diego, Carlos Henrique, Matheus, Wellington, Leonardo, Andrezinho, Adriano

Besides these two, do you know any of the others? There are more than hundred young brazilian players in Europe right now. Is any of these playing there? I recognize a few of these in some brazilian teams, playing not really an important role.

Only exceptional players are already at such a high level from the time they're U-17. Most of the others come out later.
Don't forget that teams like Germany and Italy don't mean anything at U-17 level. But you know what they present at adult level. While the mexican "U-17 golden generation" was winning the WC, the italians and germans who will beat them in 10 years were perhaps "good to have" boys in their local youth leagues. But they will come out when it counts.

U-21 is already a more realistic promise. But still no guarantee.

Don't dream too high.

[unam_mx]

Don't count on this.
A U-17 title doesn't necessarily mean at all a "golden generation". I'll give you an example: Brazil won this title in 1997 and 1999. These guys should be right now all about 25, i.e., old enough to be famous, being playing in the best teams in the world etc. I'll give you the entire list of both teams, with the names how they're well known. The ones I'm quite sure you know are bold:

Fabio, Andrey, Rogerio, Fernando, Abel, Jorginho, Diogo, Ferrugem, Fabio Pinto, Ronaldinho, Matuzalem, Raniere, Flavio, Henrique, Carlos Gaviao, Adiel, Geovani, Anailson, Rubinho, Leite, Marquinhos, Ricardo, Eduardo, Anderson, Leo, Walker, Souza, Caca, Leandro, Diego, Carlos Henrique, Matheus, Wellington, Leonardo, Andrezinho, Adriano

Besides these two, do you know any of the others? There are more than hundred young brazilian players in Europe right now. Is any of these playing there? I recognize a few of these in some brazilian teams, playing not really an important role.

Only exceptional players are already at such a high level from the time they're U-17. Most of the others come out later.
Don't forget that teams like Germany and Italy don't mean anything at U-17 level. But you know what they present at adult level. While the mexican "U-17 golden generation" was winning the WC, the italians and germans who will beat them in 10 years were perhaps "good to have" boys in their local youth leagues. But they will come out when it counts.

U-21 is already a more realistic promise. But still no guarantee.

Don't dream too high.

Guzman, Vela, and especially Dos Santos look like they can be future stars...Im almost willing to guarantee that Dos Santos is a sure future star.Mexico has always lacked the real desequilibrating (dont know if its a word in English)/technically gifted,fast,brain of a team--Dos Santos has the potential to be that...with so many foreign forwards in Mexico they also havent been able to develope exceptional strikers.Guzman and Vela can be that.

Im aware that most of them from that squad wont be as good professionally as they were as amateurs...but the main players from that squad look like they can be special.You cant overlook how dominant they were, they looked like men amongst boys.I probably am being too optimistic but hey thats just my opinion, from what I saw from them they look like they can be a big part of Mexico's future.

[Orgulho Judeu]

Portugal
Angola
(i hope)

[Orgulho Judeu]

think again!
this group might be the hardest group, all hte teams are good, but i think Mexico edges Iran

[supersjd]

I think Iran and Mexico will make it from this group. IMO Portugal will choke again like in 2002.

in my opinion portugal have a better squad than in 2002. they are more complete and work well together as a team. i hope they don't choke because people are expecting a lot from them in 2006.

[supersjd]

Are u guys kidding?Comparing Iran to Mexico and not knowing who will win?So I guess they'll give problems to Portugal as well right...cause they arent much better (if at all) then Mexico.

i know mexico is a great team but iran is also very good. yes mexico is better than iran but both can win and do a lot of damage. in the end it's hard to say who would win between the two. both have great teams.

[karimi8]

all teams have a good chance of qualifying.

possible qualifiers from our group:

Portugal & Mexico (predicted by most)
This is what most of the world is betting on. I have a strong feeling this will not happen. I really think one of the two qualifiers will be "underdogs" Iran or Angola. I know both favourites will not take is easy, but neither will the other two. Portugal and Mexico will be seeing the best of Iran & Angola so its not going to be an easy job for them.

However, if both of them win their first 2 games then this is the result of the group! So, we better be careful of not loosing our first game to Mexico or else Portugal will be playing their best to knock us out.

Mexico & Iran
That implies Portugal has screwed up again. This looks unlikely to me since Portugal will be cautious after their WC 2002 mistakes.

Portugal & Angola
Well, this could be very possible, if both Angola and Portugal work hard after they play each other in their first game. If Portugal win their first 2 games, they will most likely want to defeat Mexico in their last match to help Angola. If i see these two make it through, it wont be a shock to me!


Mexico & Angola
That means, Iran and Portugal are out :D
This combination would be the most disappointing one for me. It's actually a nightmare if i see my country and a big team Portugal miss out again!

Iran & Angola
Who dares to bet on this? :D
That will happen if both teams win their first 2 games! and their last match against each other will be for the first spot. You never know, but this would be one of the biggest upsets of the World Cup!

Portugal & Iran
This is the most likely result if its not Mexico & Portugal. I say if Iran makes it to the second round, Portugal is coming along them.

It's not the easiest group, but it could have gotten much harder. after all, its not mission impossible but as for my team Iran..our first game against Mexico is the crucial decider!

[Stryker06]

yeah, you could be right. if iran manages to get a win over mexico, it might set them up nicely to qualify for the 2nd round. are you sure angola are gonna be the easy beats of this group? i don't know anything bout them. maybe u know a bit.

[supersjd]

very nicely done karimi8. put together very well.

[Lusitânia Power]

all teams have a good chance of qualifying.

possible qualifiers from our group:

Portugal & Mexico (predicted by most)
This is what most of the world is betting on. I have a strong feeling this will not happen. I really think one of the two qualifiers will be "underdogs" Iran or Angola. I know both favourites will not take is easy, but neither will the other two. Portugal and Mexico will be seeing the best of Iran & Angola so its not going to be an easy job for them.

However, if both of them win their first 2 games then this is the result of the group! So, we better be careful of not loosing our first game to Mexico or else Portugal will be playing their best to knock us out.

Mexico & Iran
That implies Portugal has screwed up again. This looks unlikely to me since Portugal will be cautious after their WC 2002 mistakes.

Portugal & Angola
Well, this could be very possible, if both Angola and Portugal work hard after they play each other in their first game. If Portugal win their first 2 games, they will most likely want to defeat Mexico in their last match to help Angola. If i see these two make it through, it wont be a shock to me!


Mexico & Angola
That means, Iran and Portugal are out :D
This combination would be the most disappointing one for me. It's actually a nightmare if i see my country and a big team Portugal miss out again!

Iran & Angola
Who dares to bet on this? :D
That will happen if both teams win their first 2 games! and their last match against each other will be for the first spot. You never know, but this would be one of the biggest upsets of the World Cup!

Portugal & Iran
This is the most likely result if its not Mexico & Portugal. I say if Iran makes it to the second round, Portugal is coming along them.

It's not the easiest group, but it could have gotten much harder. after all, its not mission impossible but as for my team Iran..our first game against Mexico is the crucial decider!

good analysis karimi8, you said it all, it is going to be hard although many people may think the opposite.

PORTUGAL IS MY LOVE :)

[karimi8]

thanks guys..


however our group's only problem is that we have a very slim chance of passing the second round, since were going to face top 2 of group C!

unless s&m or CIV do something, second round is where our group winners will likely stop

im hoping for argentina to miss out, cuz this team is the REAL KILLER in midfield AND attack! trust me if their defense and gk were solid theyd be better than brazil.

[Lusitânia Power]

Even if Portugal reaches the final 16, the teams from group C, are going to be very hard...I wished for these 2 teams only in the 1/4 finals, but it's impossible...

[masterfigo]

for me, Iran isn't an underdog.

Moreover, Karimi is potentially a new star who will emerge from this world cup.

[masterfigo]

thanks guys..


however our group's only problem is that we have a very slim chance of passing the second round, since were going to face top 2 of group C!

unless s&m or CIV do something, second round is where our group winners will likely stop

im hoping for argentina to miss out, cuz this team is the REAL KILLER in midfield AND attack! trust me if their defense and gk were solid theyd be better than brazil.

Greece won the euro 2004 beating, France, Czech Republic and portugal 2 times... We don't have to be affraid of the opponents... that's the beauty of the game. If the players think like you... we will certainly lose, but if you have confidence, everybody can win. I bet on Portugal because I know they have everybody to do the big thing.

[ricoo9]

It will be like this, Lets be Realistic

Portugal 3 - 1 Angola
Iran 1 - 0 Mexico
Portugal 1 - 1 Iran
Angola 2 - 1 Mexico
Portugal 2 - 0 Mexico
Iran 1 - 0 Angola

1.Portugal
2.Iran
3.Angola
4.Mexico

Portugal & Iran will advance

[Stryker06]

someone's got a grudge against mexico it seems.

[kmu]

mexico 3- 1 iran
portugal 3-2 angola
mexico4-1angola
portugal 2-1 iran
mexico 1-1 portugal
iran 0-0 angola

that means:
1-mexico
2 portugal
3- iran
4- angola

mexico will shut all those ignorants that say mexico is a crap!
remember this... mexico will be the black horse..

[Ese_Guy]

Great posting karimi8 (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/member.php?u=12857)!

Given the inconsistencies, I too feel this is difficult group to predict.
Mexico does play well against worthy opponents, and poorly against teams most wouldn't expect much from.

All teams need to take nothing for granted.
This group is quite intresting.

[chaymin]

all teams have a good chance of qualifying.

possible qualifiers from our group:

Portugal & Mexico (predicted by most)
This is what most of the world is betting on. I have a strong feeling this will not happen. I really think one of the two qualifiers will be "underdogs" Iran or Angola. I know both favourites will not take is easy, but neither will the other two. Portugal and Mexico will be seeing the best of Iran & Angola so its not going to be an easy job for them.

However, if both of them win their first 2 games then this is the result of the group! So, we better be careful of not loosing our first game to Mexico or else Portugal will be playing their best to knock us out.

Mexico & Iran
That implies Portugal has screwed up again. This looks unlikely to me since Portugal will be cautious after their WC 2002 mistakes.

Portugal & Angola
Well, this could be very possible, if both Angola and Portugal work hard after they play each other in their first game. If Portugal win their first 2 games, they will most likely want to defeat Mexico in their last match to help Angola. If i see these two make it through, it wont be a shock to me!


Mexico & Angola
That means, Iran and Portugal are out :D
This combination would be the most disappointing one for me. It's actually a nightmare if i see my country and a big team Portugal miss out again!

Iran & Angola
Who dares to bet on this? :D
That will happen if both teams win their first 2 games! and their last match against each other will be for the first spot. You never know, but this would be one of the biggest upsets of the World Cup!

Portugal & Iran
This is the most likely result if its not Mexico & Portugal. I say if Iran makes it to the second round, Portugal is coming along them.

It's not the easiest group, but it could have gotten much harder. after all, its not mission impossible but as for my team Iran..our first game against Mexico is the crucial decider!


Good post! Did you see where I underlined? Why would Portugal want to help Angola?

I agree Mexico has its inconsistencies. But when it comes to an actual tournament... they're a completely different team. Look at what Mexico has done in previous World Cups, Confederations Cup, Copa America, Gold Cup, etc.

Portugal and Mexico are who I think will make it past the first round. Although for some reason I have a feeling Iran or Angola will surprise...

[chaymin]

It will be like this, Lets be Realistic

Portugal 3 - 1 Angola
Iran 1 - 0 Mexico
Portugal 1 - 1 Iran
Angola 2 - 1 Mexico
Portugal 2 - 0 Mexico
Iran 1 - 0 Angola

1.Portugal
2.Iran
3.Angola
4.Mexico

Portugal & Iran will advance


Let's be realistic? You think Mexico will lose all 3 matches? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[unam_mx]

It will be like this, Lets be Realistic

Portugal 3 - 1 Angola
Iran 1 - 0 Mexico
Portugal 1 - 1 Iran
Angola 2 - 1 Mexico
Portugal 2 - 0 Mexico
Iran 1 - 0 Angola

1.Portugal
2.Iran
3.Angola
4.Mexico

Portugal & Iran will advance

Yet u swear u have nothing against Mexico :rolleyes:

Realistically:
Portugal 2 - 0 Angola
Iran 1 - 2 Mexico
Portugal 1 - 1 Iran
Angola 1 - 3 Mexico
Portugal 1 - 1 Mexico
Iran 1 - 0 Angola

1.Mexico
2.Portugal
3.Iran
4.Angola

[ricoo9]

Yet u swear u have nothing against Mexico :rolleyes:

Realistically:
Portugal 2 - 0 Angola
Iran 1 - 2 Mexico
Portugal 1 - 1 Iran
Angola 1 - 3 Mexico
Portugal 1 - 1 Mexico
Iran 1 - 0 Angola

1.Mexico
2.Portugal
3.Iran
4.Angola

Realistically? ur not gonna tell me that mexico is better than portugal now r u?

[mawin312]

Realistically? ur not gonna tell me that mexico is better than portugal now r u?

We finished on top of Italy last wc...doesnt make Mexico better than Italy.

[chaymin]

We finished on top of Italy last wc...doesnt make Mexico better than Italy.

:grouphug:

[supersjd]

Let's be realistic? You think Mexico will lose all 3 matches? :lol: :lol: :lol:

that is pretty much impossible. but anything can happen in the world cup.

[ricoo9]

We finished on top of Italy last wc...doesnt make Mexico better than Italy.

if they do it once its luck but if they do it often than it would mean that they r better so if they get first in their group again i guess u can say mexic is better than portugal which wouldnt make sense

[tronxz28]

In 1994 mexico finished first of its group... ahead of Italy ...

Still that does not make mexico better than italy, but also it is not just luck.

[chaymin]

if they do it once its luck but if they do it often than it would mean that they r better so if they get first in their group again i guess u can say mexic is better than portugal which wouldnt make sense

http://www.scottwax.com/rice/videos/smilies/gtfo.gif

[ricoo9]

In 1994 mexico finished first of its group... ahead of Italy ...

Still that does not make mexico better than italy, but also it is not just luck.

I want u to explain how it isnt luck ??? :rolleyes:

[ado10]

I want u to explain how it isnt luck ??? :rolleyes:
hello there!
one thing that I want to say is there is no luck in soccer! better team always win somehow... but they win! I mean look at the Greece! I was talking about them all the way in the Euro 2004 that it was just a luck that they got that far and what happend then they even became euro champs... and I was like creazy because I was for portugal all that time and they even beat them 2 times! and there is none of us that could bet on Greece beating the big Portugal 2x!(without couting the fans of Greece)!!! that don't make Greece better then Protugal but still they somehow get to win the 2 matches.

[chaymin]

I want u to explain how it isnt luck ??? :rolleyes:

Okay... let me try to understand your reasoning. Mexico totally sucks and any cup or match that they have won is total and complete luck?

You're form of thinking is whacked.

[tronxz28]

well rico,

After this one I will not answer to your posts. It is good to debate with people and show different points of views, but...

it is pointless to discuss or talk with a racist or a hater.


You really cannot classify in a world cup group to the next stage as first of your group if you dont have some sort of worthy skills. Maybe if you are the local team and u have an easy team but in this case in 94 mexico was in a group with 3 euro teams. In 2002 mexico was with 2 euro and 1 from south america.

You can be lucky at 1 game but please, it cannot be just luck in the 3 games.

We are talking about a world cup here. The teams play to death each match !!!

Is it true u r from Peru ??? Before u go promoting that a team sucks why dont u first analyze ur own team ? What have u done, what have u achived? What about new players from the u17 team , any promises ??/?

[chaymin]

well rico,

After this one I will not answer to your posts. It is good to debate with people and show different points of views, but...

it is pointless to discuss or talk with a racist or a hater.


You really cannot classify in a world cup group to the next stage as first of your group if you dont have some sort of worthy skills. Maybe if you are the local team and u have an easy team but in this case in 94 mexico was in a group with 3 euro teams. In 2002 mexico was with 2 euro and 1 from south america.

You can be lucky at 1 game but please, it cannot be just luck in the 3 games.

We are talking about a world cup here. The teams play to death each match !!!

Is it true u r from Peru ??? Before u go promoting that a team sucks why dont u first analyze ur own team ? What have u done, what have u achived? What about new players from the u17 team , any promises ??/?


Very well put! :clap2:

[ricoo9]

well rico,

After this one I will not answer to your posts. It is good to debate with people and show different points of views, but...

it is pointless to discuss or talk with a racist or a hater.


You really cannot classify in a world cup group to the next stage as first of your group if you dont have some sort of worthy skills. Maybe if you are the local team and u have an easy team but in this case in 94 mexico was in a group with 3 euro teams. In 2002 mexico was with 2 euro and 1 from south america.

You can be lucky at 1 game but please, it cannot be just luck in the 3 games.

We are talking about a world cup here. The teams play to death each match !!!

Is it true u r from Peru ??? Before u go promoting that a team sucks why dont u first analyze ur own team ? What have u done, what have u achived? What about new players from the u17 team , any promises ??/?

What has Mexico won at the end?Nothing, Im not sayin that they completly suck but they r not as good as the mexicans swear they r... they r just decent team i expect mexico to live up to their rep in this cup, and imo they will not advance to the 2nd round. And btw no its not true im not from peru, I was born here and i have italian/peruvian background, I go every year to italy and all my family is there, but i follow south american futbol alot as u can see and it gets annyoin when u mexicans go talk alot of shit like if ur the champs of the world or something, mexico hasnt won anything and i really doubt they ever will. Also I am not racist or anything, I have gone to Mexico twice and i enjoy it there, so no i am not a hater or a rascist, u ppl just make excuses for when others talk the truth :mullet:

[Orgulho Judeu]

1st portugal
2nd angola
i hope so :worried:

[chaymin]

What has Mexico won at the end?Nothing, Im not sayin that they completly suck but they r not as good as the mexicans swear they r... they r just decent team i expect mexico to live up to their rep in this cup, and imo they will not advance to the 2nd round. And btw no its not true im not from peru, I was born here and i have italian/peruvian background, I go every year to italy and all my family is there, but i follow south american futbol alot as u can see and it gets annyoin when u mexicans go talk alot of shit like if ur the champs of the world or something, mexico hasnt won anything and i really doubt they ever will. Also I am not racist or anything, I have gone to Mexico twice and i enjoy it there, so no i am not a hater or a rascist, u ppl just make excuses for when others talk the truth :mullet:

I have never said they are the best in the world and other Mexicans on this forum have said the same thing. But I find it highly offensive when you put down my team. There is a difference in giving your opinion and looking for a fight. Most of the time it feels like you're looking for a fight. :boxing:

Just my 2 cents.

[ricoo9]

I have never said they are the best in the world and other Mexicans on this forum have said the same thing. But I find it highly offensive when you put down my team. There is a difference in giving your opinion and looking for a fight. Most of the time it feels like you're looking for a fight. :boxing:

Just my 2 cents.

alright dude, my bad if u took it the wrong way ;)

[supersjd]

alright dude, my bad if u took it the wrong way ;)

there it's all settled.

[karimi8]

Good post! Did you see where I underlined? Why would Portugal want to help Angola?


why not.. these 2 teams like each other rather than hate each other. after all, portugal have nothing to loose in their last match against mexico, it will only increase their image if they beat mexico.

but to be honest, like one of the guys said.. it will depend on their consistency, because all 4 of them are solid teams when it comes to consistency. though only Angola have a disadvantage of World Cup experience, which is one of the reasons why Iran missed out the second round in France 98

if you're more interested in our group teams, you can check out my article, on behalf of irankicks.com here http://www.footballmedia.net/articles.asp?id=190

[tronxz28]

really cool information karimi !!! very interesting to read what the media over Iran thinks about the group.

Here in Mexico the media has been very consistent on mentioning that Mexico cannot understimate any of the teams. When Mexico does that we got bad surprises.

The members of the team have been already mentioning that they will not understimate any of the teams.

Also the media mentions that we have to be careful with Iran. They have some players at the bundesliga.

The main concern here is the little knowledge about Angola and Iran. We do not know their real level and potential.

Mexico will send people to "spy" those teams during the next months to gather all the information about them that we need to know them better ;)

[Orgulho Judeu]

mexico goes down 3-1 :D

[Rayo_Dorado]

Look u guys are all putting Mexico down...maybe portugal has star players and their players play almost all in good or better teams than the Mexican ones...but Mexico has surprised before...confederations cup...Mexico 1- Brazil 0...we've beaten Argentina and Italy...So Mexico is almost 90 percent sure that it will pass ...yea iran has a possibility....i doubt angola will do anything...portugal is also about 90 percent sure that it will pass...we shouldn't put any teams down if the National Selections haven't played against them....but stop putting my country down...MEXICO

[ricoo9]

Look u guys are all putting Mexico down...maybe portugal has star players and their players play almost all in good or better teams than the Mexican ones...but Mexico has surprised before...confederations cup...Mexico 1- Brazil 0...we've beaten Argentina and Italy...So Mexico is almost 90 percent sure that it will pass ...yea iran has a possibility....i doubt angola will do anything...portugal is also about 90 percent sure that it will pass...we shouldn't put any teams down if the National Selections haven't played against them....but stop putting my country down...MEXICO

Mexico has never beaten Italy :mmph: and even ecuador has beaten brazil, no big deal :D

[jesuslomas15]

just shut ur f*gget ass up ricoo go stick a c*ck in ur mouth cuase thats what mexico is gona do to whetever team u go for f*cking team hopper

[Stryker06]

:lol: :rockon: :lol:

[ricoo9]

just shut ur f*gget ass up ricoo go stick a c*ck in ur mouth cuase thats what mexico is gona do to whetever team u go for f*cking team hopper

i guess u realize that mexico sux, thats why u gettin all mad, btw Yo mama bitch :kiss:

[Ronni]

Mexico has never beaten Italy :mmph: and even ecuador has beaten brazil, no big deal :D
In the last WC they "just" tied Italy, but they still finished in front of Italy.
Ecuador can beat anybody at home - at over 6,000 feet high. Mexico beat Brazil exactely where the WC will be played next year: in Germany. And no matter how Brazil played against Mexico this is a big deal, since nobody likes to be defeated.

[stuglue]

Let's give Mexico the credit they deserve,they are a team that won't win the WC,i think we ALL agree on that.They seem to be perpetual quarter finalist's and that's about as good as they get.

[Lusitânia Power]

well, historically Mexico never passed the quarter-finals, and they were playing at home, outside their country, they never passed the last 16, but this coach that Mexico has now...mmm, if I were you, I do not understimate him, because the teams that will face Mexico will have many difficulties :sad:

[supersjd]

do not underestimate mexico.

[ricoo9]

I think Mexico is too overrated, They r better than Japan though and brazil had trouble with beatin japan so i wouldnt make a big deal out of it, they wont go farther than 2nd round, and mexico has never beaten Italy and never will either :ranger:

[chaymin]

i guess u realize that mexico sux, thats why u gettin all mad, btw Yo mama bitch :kiss:

Let me remind you that Peru isn't going to the World Cup. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[chaymin]

I think Mexico is too overrated, They r better than Japan though and brazil had trouble with beatin japan so i wouldnt make a big deal out of it, they wont go farther than 2nd round, and mexico has never beaten Italy and never will either :ranger:

:blah:

[ricoo9]

Let me remind you that Peru isn't going to the World Cup. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Neither is Urugay, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela, Bolivia etc :p

[chaymin]

Neither is Urugay, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela, Bolivia etc :p

Nope. Neither did Canada, Panama, Jamaica, etc.

But what does that have to do with anything?

[ricoo9]

Nope. Neither did Canada, Panama, Jamaica, etc.

But what does that have to do with anything?

That some of those teams r better than Mexico but didnt make it to the WC cuz their not in concacrap

[chaymin]

That some of those teams r better than Mexico but didnt make it to the WC cuz their not in concacrap

The only teams that you can compare to Mexico from your list are Uruguay and Columbia. They had their chance... especially Uruguay against Australia... but they choked.

[stuglue]

Why don't FIFA amalgamate Concacaf with Conmebol.You could have a 16 team Copa America and an all American qualifying section for WC.

[Lusitânia Power]

Why don't FIFA amalgamate Concacaf with Conmebol.You could have a 16 team Copa America and an all American qualifying section for WC.

ALELUIA!!! Finally somebody who agrees with me in the totality about this subject, I always thought that way, join all the American teams, and do a America Cup and American Qualifying Zone in the WC, to see more interesting matches, especially in the final stage or something...

[supersjd]

Why don't FIFA amalgamate Concacaf with Conmebol.You could have a 16 team Copa America and an all American qualifying section for WC.

this would be perfect. i hope somebody from fifa sees this!!! it has to be done.

[ricoo9]

Me and other ppl have been sayin this for a very long time now, Mexico has been invited already but turned it down... i guess they know they have a sure spot if they keep it the way it is and will keep livin the lie that they live right now. Even Australia has agreed to play in the Asia group. If this was to happen in the AMericas Mexico might still make it to the Wc but barely if they do and teams like URugay, CHile, COlombia, PEru would go more often for sure.

As for Making One 16 team America cup, how bout this, the winner from the Gold cup plays the winner from the COpa America, that seems more suitable cuz after all America is 2 different continents i think it should stay the way it is now

[stuglue]

If you had a 16team Copa you could have the 10 S American nations and the 6 teams from CONCACAF who reached the final qualifying stage for the WC.So you would have US Mexico T&T Costa Rica Panama Guatemala.This would be great experience for the lesser teams of Concacaf

[ricoo9]

If you had a 16team Copa you could have the 10 S American nations and the 6 teams from CONCACAF who reached the final qualifying stage for the WC.So you would have US Mexico T&T Costa Rica Panama Guatemala.This would be great experience for the lesser teams of Concacaf

This wouldnt be fair for the other concacrap teams like canada, panama etc, unless they keep the gold cup which would make the gold cup even crappier then what it already is ...

[RojINeGrO5051]

mexico will come up 3rd in the qualifications if it happen but that is my opinion :ronaldo:

[ricoo9]

mexico will come up 3rd in the qualifications if it happen but that is my opinion :ronaldo:

maybe 3rd in group D but not in a qualifying games :ronaldo:

[RojINeGrO5051]

how will peru do in the world cup :ronaldo:

[ricoo9]

how will peru do in the world cup :ronaldo:

Peru beat Mexico 3-1 last time ....hahaha :ronaldo:

[tronxz28]

Rico,

You mentioned that Mexico was invited to participate in the Conmebol classifications rounds to the world cup.

Do you have any links, or more information about it ? I would like to read that information. For me it would be great that the concacaf and conmebol are finally merged.

Please let me know where did you read that information.

Thanks.

By the way, Australia moved to Asia so they can have more chances to classify to the world cup. It was for their own benefit and not because they wanted to help anybody. Ocenia has only 1/2 spot. Asia has 4. Now that Australia will play with the Asian teams they will be a regular assistant to the WC.

Oceania should be merged in Asia and Concacaf with conmebol.

So bad none of us are FIFA members to implement this ideas :D

[ricoo9]

Rico,

You mentioned that Mexico was invited to participate in the Conmebol classifications rounds to the world cup.

Do you have any links, or more information about it ? I would like to read that information. For me it would be great that the concacaf and conmebol are finally merged.

Please let me know where did you read that information.

Thanks.

By the way, Australia moved to Asia so they can have more chances to classify to the world cup. It was for their own benefit and not because they wanted to help anybody. Ocenia has only 1/2 spot. Asia has 4. Now that Australia will play with the Asian teams they will be a regular assistant to the WC.

Oceania should be merged in Asia and Concacaf with conmebol.

So bad none of us are FIFA members to implement this ideas :D


well no i dont have a link to that but i heard it some time ago in gol tv.

I got this one from another forum, This guy is Mexican and is explainin why u guys would never play against conmebol:

"Lo mejor que podría hacer México, si de verdad quisiera superarse, es dejar Concacaf e integrarse a Conmebol. Se sacrificarían dos de cada tres mundiales, pero lograríamos un nivel competitivo estupendo.

Lamentablemente, los intereses económicos de Televisa y de la Femexfut jamás nos van a permitir salir de las facilidades de Concacaf, aunque nos aburramos en los partidos de esta región. "


Do any of u guys think we can do something about it? maybe make a petition and send it to Fifa :worried:

[chaymin]

well no i dont have a link to that but i heard it some time ago in gol tv.

I got this one from another forum, This guy is Mexican and is explainin why u guys would never play against conmebol:

"Lo mejor que podría hacer México, si de verdad quisiera superarse, es dejar Concacaf e integrarse a Conmebol. Se sacrificarían dos de cada tres mundiales, pero lograríamos un nivel competitivo estupendo.

Lamentablemente, los intereses económicos de Televisa y de la Femexfut jamás nos van a permitir salir de las facilidades de Concacaf, aunque nos aburramos en los partidos de esta región. "


Do any of u guys think we can do something about it? maybe make a petition and send it to Fifa :worried:


If you're gonna quote, you should follow it by a link to back you up.

[chaymin]

Why don't FIFA amalgamate Concacaf with Conmebol.You could have a 16 team Copa America and an all American qualifying section for WC.

I would totally go for that.

[MADRIDCF8]

as half mexican and half iranian i will have no problem predicting non biased.
mex-ira (the big game for me) 2-1
por-ang 2-1
mex-ang 2-0
por-ira 2-1
ang-ira 0-2
por-mex 2-1
this means...
1 portugal
2 mexico
3 iran
4 angola
this would be sad for me obvisouly, id rather have mexico and iran not lose, lol but i think this is what will happen.
i think angola is good but not good enough to beat ne of the teams, maybe jus stay close and tie a game or 2.
basically same with iran, our coach and defence/goalkeeper will be our doom, if we had better in all three i think wed have a great chance of qaulifying
imo, mexico is like a good european team, or a good south american team. this meaning were eqaul to teams like croatia, uruguay, colombia, switzerland. something we forget about is mexico tied greece (meangingless game) went to et against with germany, beat brazil and easily beat japan without marquez and 'temo arugably our two best players. i think marquez is definently our best player.
and portugal has obvisouly the most talent, figo or ronaldo who ever is on the right is gonna smoke the left side of iran. and the gamewith mexico will be meaningless.

[ado10]

as half mexican and half iranian i will have no problem predicting non biased.
mex-ira (the big game for me) 2-1
por-ang 2-1
mex-ang 2-0
por-ira 2-1
ang-ira 0-2
por-mex 2-1
this means...
1 portugal
2 mexico
3 iran
4 angola
this would be sad for me obvisouly, id rather have mexico and iran not lose, lol but i think this is what will happen.
i think angola is good but not good enough to beat ne of the teams, maybe jus stay close and tie a game or 2.
basically same with iran, our coach and defence/goalkeeper will be our doom, if we had better in all three i think wed have a great chance of qaulifying
imo, mexico is like a good european team, or a good south american team. this meaning were eqaul to teams like croatia, uruguay, colombia, switzerland. something we forget about is mexico tied greece (meangingless game) went to et against with germany, beat brazil and easily beat japan without marquez and 'temo arugably our two best players. i think marquez is definently our best player.
and portugal has obvisouly the most talent, figo or ronaldo who ever is on the right is gonna smoke the left side of iran. and the gamewith mexico will be meaningless.
;) it could easly go that way... and it'S too bad for iran that hey don't have a stronger team they play a great football but...it's not gonna be enough I think!:sad:

[chaymin]

as half mexican and half iranian i will have no problem predicting non biased.
mex-ira (the big game for me) 2-1
por-ang 2-1
mex-ang 2-0
por-ira 2-1
ang-ira 0-2
por-mex 2-1
this means...
1 portugal
2 mexico
3 iran
4 angola
this would be sad for me obvisouly, id rather have mexico and iran not lose, lol but i think this is what will happen.
i think angola is good but not good enough to beat ne of the teams, maybe jus stay close and tie a game or 2.
basically same with iran, our coach and defence/goalkeeper will be our doom, if we had better in all three i think wed have a great chance of qaulifying
imo, mexico is like a good european team, or a good south american team. this meaning were eqaul to teams like croatia, uruguay, colombia, switzerland. something we forget about is mexico tied greece (meangingless game) went to et against with germany, beat brazil and easily beat japan without marquez and 'temo arugably our two best players. i think marquez is definently our best player.
and portugal has obvisouly the most talent, figo or ronaldo who ever is on the right is gonna smoke the left side of iran. and the gamewith mexico will be meaningless.


Half Mexican half Iranian? How did that happen? I've never met anyone with that mix. Just curious...

[MADRIDCF8]

my mom is mexican and my dad is iranian and they met at a college in the us.
i have 2 cousins that are also half mexican and half iranian so i think theres three in the world lol.

[chaymin]

my mom is mexican and my dad is iranian and they met at a college in the us.
i have 2 cousins that are also half mexican and half iranian so i think theres three in the world lol.

:lol: Yeah... must be pretty rare.

:rockon:

[Ronni]

as half mexican and half iranian i will have no problem predicting non biased.
mex-ira (the big game for me) 2-1
One of my tickets turned out to be for that match. As much as I respect both teams, I'd like to exchange it against a different match. I heard that FIFA should be opening something for enabling people to exchange tickets - I'm not sure about this information (does anyone know about it?). If you are interested, or if you know anyone is interested, send me a private message! Note: I'm not selling my ticket (it won't probably be possible nor I would like to do it). If I don't manage to get any match that interests me more than that one, I'll be happy also to see Mexico vs. Iran.

[stuglue]

my mom is mexican and my dad is iranian and they met at a college in the us.
i have 2 cousins that are also half mexican and half iranian so i think theres three in the world lol.
Imagine the women,a mixture of latino and the dark looks of the Iranian's.....hey buddy you got a sister?:kiss: ;)

[chaymin]

One of my tickets turned out to be for that match. As much as I respect both teams, I'd like to exchange it against a different match. I heard that FIFA should be opening something for enabling people to exchange tickets - I'm not sure about this information (does anyone know about it?). If you are interested, or if you know anyone is interested, send me a private message! Note: I'm not selling my ticket (it won't probably be possible nor I would like to do it). If I don't manage to get any match that interests me more than that one, I'll be happy also to see Mexico vs. Iran.

Wow. I would kill to watch that match live!

[chaymin]

my mom is mexican and my dad is iranian and they met at a college in the us.
i have 2 cousins that are also half mexican and half iranian so i think theres three in the world lol.
Imagine the women,a mixture of latino and the dark looks of the Iranian's.....hey buddy you got a sister?:kiss: ;)

I was thinking the exact same thing! :lol: But thought he wouldn't like it if I asked.

[Fenerliyim]

1st Portugal
2nd Mexico

[MADRIDCF8]

I was thinking the exact same thing! :lol: But thought he wouldn't like it if I asked.
hahaha geez guys i feel violated and i dont even have sister haha.

[culooche]

Iran will be either 2nd or first if they play there game....

[Stryker06]

iran'll finish 3rd if they're lucky. seriously, on paper alone, iran so much less than portugal or mexico. iran have never, and i mean never shown anything at the world cup before. and their route enroute to the world cup is amazingly simple.
what should anyone expect anything other than 3rd or 4th place from iran?

[supersjd]

iran'll finish 3rd if they're lucky. seriously, on paper alone, iran so much less than portugal or mexico. iran have never, and i mean never shown anything at the world cup before. and their route enroute to the world cup is amazingly simple.
what should anyone expect anything other than 3rd or 4th place from iran?

it's true iran will be very lucky if they finish 2nd but it's not impossible. mexico and portugal are top teams and are expected to beat iran. angola will also be fighting and has a good chance of beating iran. but on the other hand iran is capable of beating every country in this group. once again, anything can happen in the world cup.

[Stryker06]

they're not capable. so sad you didn't even provide any arguments as why they might be capable. then again, it'll have little chance of convincing me.

[culooche]

I seriously question your intelligence, you can't say Iran will get 3rd or 4th , you don't even know anything about the team. They have the potential of advancing from Group D. You piss me off.....You should give up in life......

[masterfigo]

they're not capable. so sad you didn't even provide any arguments as why they might be capable. then again, it'll have little chance of convincing me.

Nobody knew what US were in football before WC 2002.
Nobody knew what Greece were in football before Euro 2004.

Football is full of underdogs giving us surprising moments every year.

Iran, could do the same. But let's see... the difference here is that Iran got a great and talented team. They play a good football (I saw some qualification matches). Karimi is a GREEEEAT player, I'm sure that a big european team will buy him after WC. Iran can do a lot in this WC, I'm sure about that.. they've got the potential.

[Davebr]

Iran will get beat easily by every team in this group,
I think Angola can surprise the 2 big ones

[chaymin]

I've heard great things about Iran and Angola... it will be a great fight... but I still feel like Mexico and Portugal have the best chance to advance.

[MADRIDCF8]

well iran has a chance you shouldnt right them off, if u believe s korea and japan can go to the second round well than iran can to.
the difference is slim, but with people who dont follow asian football they think it is a huge difference after some good showins by the two other teams.
iran has some good players, however thier coach and goalkeeper are there downfall.
but like others said suprises happen, even if we dont come to the second round we could beat mexico or portugal and give all the teams a run for thier money.


not sying iran will qauilfying but they arent gonna be a team that u can beat up on (4-0 or 5-0)

[Stryker06]

I seriously question your intelligence, you can't say Iran will get 3rd or 4th , you don't even know anything about the team. They have the potential of advancing from Group D. You piss me off.....You should give up in life......

maybe if i orignally came from such a craphole that iran is i would consider ending my life.
they have 1-2 players that play with respectable teams in europe. the rest play in anonymous leagues outside europe and bottom dwelling teams in europe.
they're opposition enroute to the cup is next to nothing while in friendlies do powerhouse teams rarely field their strongest 11 if they're not playing anohter powerhouse.
besides iran wasn't even at the cup last time while in 98 they sucked.
give some reasons why these amateurs should be taken seriously.

[Stryker06]

Nobody knew what US were in football before WC 2002.
Nobody knew what Greece were in football before Euro 2004.

Football is full of underdogs giving us surprising moments every year.

Iran, could do the same. But let's see... the difference here is that Iran got a great and talented team. They play a good football (I saw some qualification matches). Karimi is a GREEEEAT player, I'm sure that a big european team will buy him after WC. Iran can do a lot in this WC, I'm sure about that.. they've got the potential.

with karimi you name their one only really good player. in 98 they had the great ali daei and razor estili. and they didn't produce jack shit. what makes you think they'll do anything this time?
yeah, theoretically, anything is possible before a ball's been kicked. sure togo can win the cup. but realistically, portugal and mexico are sure bets.
and in 02 the usa was lucky it was such a "f'ed up" world cup. do you really think france, argentina, and portugal won't make it out of the group this time?

[stuglue]

I think you are being a bit harsh on Iran.The main problem they have and it's the same one they had at France 98 is a weak defence.Midfield attack options are good for them although upfront they have yet to settle on a definite strike force.I hear from someone who has seen quite a few games by Angolan that he reckons they could be one of the worst teams next summer with Trinidad so maybe they will be the whipping boys.Personally Mexico V Portugal could be a very interesting match as on their day the Mexicans are a very well organised resiliant team.If you look at Portugal they have a strong defence great attacking midfield options in Deco and Ronaldo but upfront they look very very average.This group is'nt as obvious as first thought.

[juanca]

you guys shouldnt underestimate iran.

i was watching mexican tv on satelite the other day, and even THEY recognize that iran have a very strong team, perhaps there best squad ever, and that it will be very tough to beat them. most papers and online sites agree too.


i still mexico and portugal classifying however.

[Maxpayne]

Mexico doesn't seems much of threat for me so i will say:

1.Portugal
2.Iran
3.Mexico
4.Angola

[el chingon]

This is what i think is going to happen


mexico vs iran 2-2 portugal vs.angola 3-1
mexico vs angola 2-0 portugal vs iran 2-1
mexico vs portugal 1-1 iran vs angola 0-0

FINAL STANDINGS.......
1.portugal-7 points
2.mexico-5 pints
3.iran-2
4.angola-1

[masterfigo]

with karimi you name their one only really good player. in 98 they had the great ali daei and razor estili. and they didn't produce jack shit. what makes you think they'll do anything this time?
yeah, theoretically, anything is possible before a ball's been kicked. sure togo can win the cup. but realistically, portugal and mexico are sure bets.
and in 02 the usa was lucky it was such a "f'ed up" world cup. do you really think france, argentina, and portugal won't make it out of the group this time?

Their football is much more consistent than it was, don't doubt about it. Karimi is their star, but primordialy, Iran is not only one player but a Team. They evolved a lot since 1998. But well... I agree it will be too hard to beat portugal and mexico... I'm portuguese myself and I don't want to see it :)

[supersjd]

they're not capable. so sad you didn't even provide any arguments as why they might be capable. then again, it'll have little chance of convincing me.

you didn't provide any arguments that iran isn't capable. don't act like a dumbass just because you don't like iran. i'm not saying there going to come in the top two but they have a good chance. you can't compare iran's chances of finishing in the top two with togo winning the cup.

[chaymin]

asdf

[ado10]

I can't wait till June! We'll be able to put an end to all these discussions...
I love those discussions because there are some of those that are really stupide and having no knowledge about soccer and still right thinking like if there were pros!!:lol:

[culooche]

????/

[culooche]

maybe if i orignally came from such a craphole that iran is i would consider ending my life.
they have 1-2 players that play with respectable teams in europe. the rest play in anonymous leagues outside europe and bottom dwelling teams in europe.
they're opposition enroute to the cup is next to nothing while in friendlies do powerhouse teams rarely field their strongest 11 if they're not playing anohter powerhouse.
besides iran wasn't even at the cup last time while in 98 they sucked.
give some reasons why these amateurs should be taken seriously.

Do not call Iran team an amateur team, there ranked in the top 20 in the world. You would be a dumbshit to call any top 20 teams "amateurs". Iran are a top quality team, if they play there game, and it shouldn't be a problem for them to advance through to the next round. You piss me off alot, i think your a little faggot who has grudges against teams with no reasons, your a disgrace.

[chamillionaire]

portugal
iran
your crazy!!!!! what do canadians know about soccer???!!!!! iran doesnt have a chance maybe Angola instead of portugal but Mexico has an easy group

[chamillionaire]

I've never quite been convinced by Mexico they are far too inconsistent.They can give very good matches against good opposition and then collapse against supposed weak teams.
i agree with you but in the world cup everything is different. Mexico has had problems with easy teams but thats because players like rafael marquez, jared borgetti, cuautemoc blanco, and alot more players werent there. im sure they will have their full team ready to go at least to the semifinals.

[chamillionaire]

Are u guys kidding?Comparing Iran to Mexico and not knowing who will win?So I guess they'll give problems to Portugal as well right...cause they arent much better (if at all) then Mexico.

This is ridiculous, Im still amazed at how much Mexico is getting disrespected...I cant wait till they prove all these doubters/haters wrong.Im going to say it right now--they will atleast reach the quarterfinals.I know they will likely get Holland/Argentina but Im still sticking with it.They may not be as good as those teams but they have the capability to sneak up and beat them, this team will not accept another 2nd rd exit.
i cant believe how mexico is being disrespected eather. i agree with you.

[Stryker06]

you didn't provide any arguments that iran isn't capable. don't act like a dumbass just because you don't like iran. i'm not saying there going to come in the top two but they have a good chance. you can't compare iran's chances of finishing in the top two with togo winning the cup.

too bad you don't have anything to back-up your f'up conclusion that i "don't like iran". i simply don't understand these people, okay they're from iran, to see that they've got little chance in this group. it's hard to stay objective when the iranian amateurs are your superheroes, but realistically there's karimi, and that's it. name me other player that i might think of as "yeah, you're right, he's actually pretty good". before the cup has started, yeah anything is possible. trinidad could beat england and top the group etc etc, but stop making a dick outa yourself kid. iran'll merely be there to make up the numbers. nothing more.

[Stryker06]

Do not call Iran team an amateur team, there ranked in the top 20 in the world. You would be a dumbshit to call any top 20 teams "amateurs". Iran are a top quality team, if they play there game, and it shouldn't be a problem for them to advance through to the next round. You piss me off alot, i think your a little faggot who has grudges against teams with no reasons, your a disgrace.

read my post above. and anyone who takes the rankings seriously is in fact the person who's nothing short of a dumbshit.

[chamillionaire]

mexico 3- 1 iran
portugal 3-2 angola
mexico4-1angola
portugal 2-1 iran
mexico 1-1 portugal
iran 0-0 angola

that means:
1-mexico
2 portugal
3- iran
4- angola

mexico will shut all those ignorants that say mexico is a crap!
remember this... mexico will be the black horse..
this is exactly how its gonna be !!!!

[vojvoda]

1. Portugal
2. Iran:worried:

[chamillionaire]

both iran and portugal are way behind from the class that mexico has
mexico has players in some of the best teams in europe

[Mani]

but realistically there's karimi, and that's it. name me other player that i might think of as "yeah, you're right, he's actually pretty good".
Here is a name for you Mehdi Mahdavikia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehdi_Mahdavikia), the top assister in th history of Bundesliga.

I'm sorry but you don't know jack about football buddy.

[Ronni]

both iran and portugal are way behind from the class that mexico has
mexico has players in some of the best teams in europe
:jaw:

[Ronni]

Here is a name for you Mehdi Mahdavikia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehdi_Mahdavikia), the top assister in th history of Bundesliga.

I'm sorry but you don't know jack about football buddy.
As far as I know, Iran is bringing a lot of history to the World Cup. Their key players seem to be the same ones as in their last appearence, 8 years ago! How old are they?

[besiktas1903]

to start with, i do not think that the quality of the remaining teams match that of portugal's. that is, portugal seems to be very likely to top the group after a hard-fought win against iran, a somewhat more comfortable win against the newcomers angola and most probably in the worst case a draw against mexico. mexico, on the other hand, is literally a master in terms of shutting down mediocre-below mediocre teams, leaving few doubts about making their debut into the next round, as something that they have always done in the last couple of wc's. although they don't possess enough quality to be considered as a powerhouse (like portugal), which makes their offensive end efficiency somehow unadequite, they can pretty well rely on their teamwork and good defence -which worked well for a 1-0 victory over brazil- and shall overcome iran -with whom they will probably tie, in the worst case- and angola by a margin of one, or two at the most.
apart from this, their chance of overcoming portugal seems to be pretty low again due to their offensive problems, since most of the time they cannot produce more than one goal -quite unfrequently two-, in these levels, as well as their chance of topping the group since portugal is more likely to obtain a better gf-ga difference in the case of a tie in pts at the top of the group.

[chaymin]

to start with, i do not think that the quality of the remaining teams match that of portugal's. that is, portugal seems to be very likely to top the group after a hard-fought win against iran, a somewhat more comfortable win against the newcomers angola and most probably in the worst case a draw against mexico. mexico, on the other hand, is literally a master in terms of shutting down mediocre-below mediocre teams, leaving few doubts about making their debut into the next round, as something that they have always done in the last couple of wc's. although they don't possess enough quality to be considered as a powerhouse (like portugal), which makes their offensive end efficiency somehow unadequite, they can pretty well rely on their teamwork and good defence -which worked well for a 1-0 victory over brazil- and shall overcome iran -with whom they will probably tie, in the worst case- and angola by a margin of one, or two at the most.
apart from this, their chance of overcoming portugal seems to be pretty low again due to their offensive problems, since most of the time they cannot produce more than one goal -quite unfrequently two-, in these levels, as well as their chance of topping the group since portugal is more likely to obtain a better gf-ga difference in the case of a tie in pts at the top of the group.


Very good post. You mention your thoughts ang provide detailed reasons to back you up.

I'm a fan of Mexico and will root for them all the way... but you're very right about them not being able to produce goals and become a powerhouse...

[vojvoda]

1. PORTUGAL
2. IRAN (surprise of the group!):sad:

[ado10]

1. PORTUGAL
2. IRAN (surprise of the group!):sad:
it could really happend but it'S going to be a hell of a fight with Mexico!

[chaymin]

1. PORTUGAL
2. IRAN (surprise of the group!):sad:

5 more months until we find out! :)

[Stryker06]

As far as I know, Iran is bringing a lot of history to the World Cup. Their key players seem to be the same ones as in their last appearence, 8 years ago! How old are they?

daei and estili won't be there. while mehkdekvia or how ever the hell it's spelled, is on his last wheels. i don't expect crap from him. and what i do know is that he is certainly not the leading assist giver this season.

[ado10]

Portugal3-0Angola
Iran1-1Mexico

Portugal2-1Iran
Mexico2-0Angola

Mexico0-2Portugal
Angola1-3Iran

1.Portugal 9 pts 7-1
2.Iran 4 pts 5-4
3.Mexico 4 pts 3-3
3.Angola 0 pts 1-8
:ronaldo: :ronaldo: :rolleyes: bet all your money on this you guys!!;) ;) :D

[chaymin]

Portugal 2 - 1 Angola
Iran 0 - 2 Mexico

Portugal 2 - 1 Iran
Mexico 2 - 0 Angola

Mexico 2 - 2 Portugal
Angola 1 - 2 Iran

Portugal 7 pts.
Mexico 7 pts.
Iran 3 pts.
Angola 0 pts.

[supersjd]

both iran and portugal are way behind from the class that mexico has
mexico has players in some of the best teams in europe

:lol:

[MADRIDCF8]

daei and estili won't be there. while mehkdekvia or how ever the hell it's spelled, is on his last wheels. i don't expect crap from him. and what i do know is that he is certainly not the leading assist giver this season.
mahdavikia has been gr8 for hamburg man, and no not alot of thier players will be playing from 98, they have a lot of younger players that well be playing.

[culooche]

daei and estili won't be there. while mehkdekvia or how ever the hell it's spelled, is on his last wheels. i don't expect crap from him. and what i do know is that he is certainly not the leading assist giver this season.

What nationallity are you from? If your Persian you would be the biggest f**k up i've ever known. If your not Persian, then you would still be the biggest F**k up i know. You have so much hate for Iran, your a true faggot....

[chaymin]

:lol:

Hey Supersjd. Not all Mexicans think like that. I'm Mexican and I think Portugal has a 75% chance of beating Mexico in the 1st round.

[RojINeGrO5051]

both iran and portugal are way behind from the class that mexico has
mexico has players in some of the best teams in europe
this person clearly doesnt know bout mexican futbol:yuck:

[Stryker06]

What nationallity are you from? If your Persian you would be the biggest f**k up i've ever known. If your not Persian, then you would still be the biggest F**k up i know. You have so much hate for Iran, your a true faggot....

don't be so emotional my little plum pudding. soon you'll be ready to fly the plane into the building. i know how much a camel humper such as you hates being in the usa. but it's not time yet. soon my friend, have patience.

[culooche]

don't be so emotional my little plum pudding. soon you'll be ready to fly the plane into the building. i know how much a camel humper such as you hates being in the usa. but it's not time yet. soon my friend, have patience.

???????????? DUDE, HOW AM I BEING EMOTIONAL? IM JUST TELLING YOU THE TRUTH, YOUR A f**K UP..... FACE IT........YOUR A TRUE F**K......HAHAHA........YOUR SUCH A DUMBSHIT...IT'S SO FUNNY.....YOU START SO MUCH SHIT, AND YOUR REPLIES ARE THE GAYEST SHIT I'VE EVER READ.....'Camel humper'.... AND 'PLUMB PUDDING'? ARE YOU A FAGGOT?......wow....YOU DUMB F**K....HAHAHAA.....WHAT A FAT BITCH.

EXCUSE FOR MY BAD LANGUAGE

[Stryker06]

not excusable. neither is what you're gonna do. go to paradise son, it's there, where iranian soccer players aren't useless dicks, it's paradise, just fly in the building first son, killing hundreds of innocent people is what you do best.

[behdad]

not excusable. neither is what you're gonna do. go to paradise son, it's there, where iranian soccer players aren't useless dicks, it's paradise, just fly in the building first son, killing hundreds of innocent people is what you do best. you can better watch your mouth you little bastard

[chaymin]

not excusable. neither is what you're gonna do. go to paradise son, it's there, where iranian soccer players aren't useless dicks, it's paradise, just fly in the building first son, killing hundreds of innocent people is what you do best.

Dude. That's messed up. Don't be saying that kind of stuff. Totally racist. :red-card:

[chaymin]

Red carpet treatment


México: Finished behind the USA in CONCACAF qualifying but were seeded above the USA in the draw. Jared Borgetti has been ineffective since his move to Bolton but is deadly with the national team. Will the fiery Cuahtemoc Blano return?

Iran: Ali Daei is all you need to know — they depend on him to score. Improving but they play such weak opposition in the Middle East that true development eludes them.

Angola: Talented but inexperienced, Angola's hero Akwa leads a squads of unknowns wiith talent. Benfica forward Mantorras; Figueirido, Joao Pereira and Ze Kalanga are players to watch. It'll be tough to get past Portugal, however.

Portugal: Coach Luis Felipe Scolari has a team with talent but deep insecurity about their own talents. Cristiano Ronaldo and Luis Figo lead a squad that has disappointed on every stage, most memorably in the Euro 2004 finals. But the talent is inarguable: Deco, Pauleta and Ricardo Carvalho are but a few of their big names.

[5timeschamp]

Do not call Iran team an amateur team, there ranked in the top 20 in the world. You would be a dumbshit to call any top 20 teams "amateurs". Iran are a top quality team, if they play there game, and it shouldn't be a problem for them to advance through to the next round. You piss me off alot, i think your a little faggot who has grudges against teams with no reasons, your a disgrace.

Okay now your sounding alittle dumb!! If they play there game it shouldn't be a problem for them to advance!!! Your kidding right. IF they advance which is not in the realm of the impossible it would be considered a major upset in the world of soccer. I'm not saying it's impossible. after the euro2004 I don't think any thing is impossible.

[behdad]

Okay now your sounding alittle dumb!! If they play there game it shouldn't be a problem for them to advance!!! Your kidding right. IF they advance which is not in the realm of the impossible it would be considered a major upset in the world of soccer. I'm not saying it's impossible. after the euro2004 I don't think any thing is impossible. just keep your mouth! go to school

[bernardo8]

I dunno about u guys but i remember most people thinking that on, WC02 group G, everybody thought that italy was going to end up on first place and croatia and mexico fighting for the second place. Well look how that ended up 1 Mexico 2 Italy 3 Croatia 4 Ecuador, the same happened in france 98, everybody thought that it was going to be the netherlands and belgium, but it ended up being the netherlands and mexico (and it was only goal difference that defined who was first and second). Dont get me wrong im not saying that mexico is the best of the best or that theyll be in first place in their group. But what i said its the truth, Mexico has done more than expected in the GROUP STAGE of the last two world cups, I reaffirm that, THE GROUP STAGE. But remember, its the world cup, anything can happen, senegal beating france in 02, and france not getting past the group stage. Cameroon beating argentina in 90, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.

[bernardo8]

Even though i mentioned that, i think that the group is going to end up like this Portugal Mexico Iran Angola, i dont get it why people underestimate Iran, wtf not even Portugal and Mexico are underestimating them, i think that people talking shit about Iran are saying it because they dont know Iran that well, thats what mexican coach and his assistants said, that we need to get more knowledge on Iran and Angola. i think African nations cup is going to be a great opportunity for teams to be able to have more information on their african opponents, since all of them are first timers.

[Stryker06]

true that, but that still doesn't help them on iran. since they aren't playing in the african cup. but i seriously doubt this group is not gonna be a breeze for mexico and portugal.

[chaymin]

I dunno about u guys but i remember most people thinking that on, WC02 group G, everybody thought that italy was going to end up on first place and croatia and mexico fighting for the second place. Well look how that ended up 1 Mexico 2 Italy 3 Croatia 4 Ecuador, the same happened in france 98, everybody thought that it was going to be the netherlands and belgium, but it ended up being the netherlands and mexico (and it was only goal difference that defined who was first and second). Dont get me wrong im not saying that mexico is the best of the best or that theyll be in first place in their group. But what i said its the truth, Mexico has done more than expected in the GROUP STAGE of the last two world cups, I reaffirm that, THE GROUP STAGE. But remember, its the world cup, anything can happen, senegal beating france in 02, and france not getting past the group stage. Cameroon beating argentina in 90, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.

:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

[supersjd]

not excusable. neither is what you're gonna do. go to paradise son, it's there, where iranian soccer players aren't useless dicks, it's paradise, just fly in the building first son, killing hundreds of innocent people is what you do best.

this just proves you don't like iran and that's why your saying shit about them. you should get banned from this forum racist. :red-card:

[chamillionaire]

this person clearly doesnt know bout mexican futbol:yuck:
i know more than u puto!!!viva aguilas del america cabron!!!!!:lol:

[culooche]

true that, but that still doesn't help them on iran. since they aren't playing in the african cup. but i seriously doubt this group is not gonna be a breeze for mexico and portugal.

OMG......WHAT DID I TELL YOU MY CHILD.......YOUR A TOTAL ***K UP.......JUST GO JUMP OFF A CLIFF OR GO DIE IN A CORNER, NOBODY LIKES YOU........AND DON'T BE SAYING THAT KIND OF RACIST SHIT, IM HALF PERSIAN. STILL, YOU SHOULDN'T SAY THAT TO ANYONE, THATS JUST SERIOUSLY WRONG.........YOU FAT f**KING HOE. GIVE UP IN LIFE. IM THINKING YOU SHOULD BAN THIS BITCH

EXCUSE ME FOR MY LANGUAGE, AGAIN

[culooche]

Okay now your sounding alittle dumb!! If they play there game it shouldn't be a problem for them to advance!!! Your kidding right. IF they advance which is not in the realm of the impossible it would be considered a major upset in the world of soccer. I'm not saying it's impossible. after the euro2004 I don't think any thing is impossible.

How am i sounding dumb????? I didn't get your point man.....?????? Just like you wrote, anything can happen......

[chaymin]

1-0. Angola, derrotada por Jaen, de la Segunda División española

04/01/2006 - 23:01(GMT)

Jaén (España), 4 ene (EFE)- El Real Jaén, de la Segunda División española, superó a la decepcionante selección de Angola, rival de Mexico en el Mundial de Alemania 2006, y se adjudicó por decimoquinta vez en su historia el Trofeo del Olivo, que en esta ocasión se disputó en el mes de enero, cuando habitualmente se juega durante la pretemporada.

La primera parte no tuvo nada destacado. Sobre el campo no hubo fútbol. El Real Jaén llevó la iniciativa y se acercó en algunas ocasiones a la meta rival, pero sus tiros fueron inocentes y carentes de peligrosidad. Joao Ricardo apenas tuvo que intervenir, al igual que Noé Calleja, que fueron simples espectadores.

El segundo periodo arrancó con el gol de Javi Moyano, que fue una de las pocas acciones destacadas del partido. Los jiennenses mantuvieron el control del juego y la iniciativa del mismo, y no tuvieron problemas para conservar la ventaja en el marcador.

Angola, que por la mañana se enfrentó, en Marbella, al Málaga, vino a cumplir el trámite y ni siquiera dejó un detalle de brillantez.

1. Real Jaén: Noé Calleja, David Llano, Gavilán, Galera, Gurrutxaga, Germán, Manolo Herrero, Navarro (C), Panadero, Luque y Javi Moyano. También jugaron Miguelín, Lara (ps), Francis, Dani Martínez, Chemi y Mutiu.

0. Selección de Angola: Joao Ricardo, Jamba, Marco Abreu, Figuerelo, Gilberto, Camata, Flavio, Loco, Kali, André Macanea y Titi Buengo. También jugaron Lebo Lebo, Simao, Miloy, Love, Lama, Goliath, Delgado, Arosa y Joao Zinho.

Gol: 1-0. m.46: Javi Moyano.

Arbitro: Pablo Sánchez López, del colegio jiennense. Estuvo auxiliado por Bonoso Criado y Carrasco Ponce. Muñoz Piedra hizo las funciones de cuarto árbitro.

Incidencias: Encuentro correspondiente a la vigésima quinta edición del Trofeo del Olivo, disputado en el Estadio de La Victoria ante unos quinientos espectadores. EFE gm/og

And some are saying Mexico wont beat this team? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[culooche]

They lost to a Segunda team??????????
hahahha

[el chingon]

mexico is definetely going to kill this team:smoking:

[chaymin]

mexico is definetely going to kill this team:smoking:

Preach on brotha :) :)

[Stryker06]

this just proves you don't like iran and that's why your saying shit about them. you should get banned from this forum racist. :red-card:

how is this racist? thing is, if i were talking bout norwegians or uruguayans, we wouldn't even be discussing this race thing. shortsightedness is still you're biggest virtue.

[Stryker06]

OMG......WHAT DID I TELL YOU MY CHILD.......YOUR A TOTAL ***K UP.......JUST GO JUMP OFF A CLIFF OR GO DIE IN A CORNER, NOBODY LIKES YOU........AND DON'T BE SAYING THAT KIND OF RACIST SHIT, IM HALF PERSIAN. STILL, YOU SHOULDN'T SAY THAT TO ANYONE, THATS JUST SERIOUSLY WRONG.........YOU FAT f**KING HOE. GIVE UP IN LIFE. IM THINKING YOU SHOULD BAN THIS BITCH

EXCUSE ME FOR MY LANGUAGE, AGAIN

there, there, take a deep breath, and don't exhale.

[culooche]

My son, you do not make sense. You sound very unintelligent with your 'calm down sentences'. Again, for the tenth time, you are a dumb piece of shit, can't you understand that? Tell me, why is it that you are a ***k up, IN LIFE? What is the reason that you talk so much shit about Iran? Also, what is up with your replies? Are you ***ked up in the mind? Well my friend, you are pretty much a fat bitch, aren't i right? Your a funny little guy, aren't you?

Truly yours, Culooche

[culooche]

how is this racist? thing is, if i were talking bout norwegians or uruguayans, we wouldn't even be discussing this race thing. shortsightedness is still you're biggest virtue.

Dude, thats why i'm saying your stupid and ***ked up in the mind. Jesus man, your so dumb, it makes me laugh. 'shortsightedness is still you're biggest virtue', hahahha, wow, do you even know what your writing, you dumb shit, you make me crack up with laughter. Oh, and also your little sentences 'here, there, take a deep breath, and don't exhale.'.... HAHHAHaa, you know what you are, so i won't bother writing it. Chao

[ado10]

Dude, thats why i'm saying your stupid and ***ked up in the mind. Jesus man, your so dumb, it makes me laugh. 'shortsightedness is still you're biggest virtue', hahahha, wow, do you even know what your writing, you dumb shit, you make crack up with laughter. Oh, and also your little sentences 'here, there, take a deep breath, and don't exhale.'.... HAHHAHaa, you know what you are, so i won't bother writing it. Chao
:amen: to that my friend!
:Pray: THX GOD I AM NOT ALONE FINDING THAT THIS GUY IS A ***KTOP IN HES MIND!(AND MORE OF THAT WITHOUT A KNOWLEDGE FOR SOCCER)AND HE'S STILL INSULTING SOME OF GUYS WITHOUT ANY REASON...WTF!!:mad2:

[ado10]

mexico is definetely going to kill this team:smoking:
2-1 that'S all! u'll see!

[culooche]

:amen: to that my friend!
:Pray: THX GOD I AM NOT ALONE FINDING THAT THIS GUY IS A ***KTOP IN HES MIND!(AND MORE OF THAT WITHOUT A KNOWLEDGE FOR SOCCER)AND HE'S STILL INSULTING SOME OF GUYS WITHOUT ANY REASON...WTF!!:mad2:

Yeah, he's pretty much stupid, he has no respect......:boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo:

[ado10]

Yeah, he's pretty much stupid, he has no respect......:boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo:
you should read sometimes in the forum group C :crazy: :crazy:

[culooche]

yeah i read......:boo: :boo: :boo: :confused: :confused:

[supersjd]

:amen: to that my friend!
:Pray: THX GOD I AM NOT ALONE FINDING THAT THIS GUY IS A ***KTOP IN HES MIND!(AND MORE OF THAT WITHOUT A KNOWLEDGE FOR SOCCER)AND HE'S STILL INSULTING SOME OF GUYS WITHOUT ANY REASON...WTF!!:mad2:

anyone with common sense could see this guy is screwed up. at least we all know that and we can continue to ignore everything he has to say.

[culooche]

very true.....:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[chaymin]

Can't wait till June. That's all I got to say.

[Stryker06]

me too, when we'll see how iran won't make it out of the group and mexico will qualify, but gets smashed in the next round. nobody's gonna miss those two amateurs. or their fanbase of 30 that'll be cheering them on in germany.

[ado10]

me too, when we'll see how iran won't make it out of the group and mexico will qualify, but gets smashed in the next round. nobody's gonna miss those two amateurs. or their fanbase of 30 that'll be cheering them on in germany.
...:) (I don't know but you just can't stop!):worried:

[superpars01]

:smoking: Lets all cut the bullshit! we cant understimate any teams in this group, however IMO Mexio is overrated and they are too sure of themselves. I cant wait till Iran plays Mexico. Well just prove the world wrong. Having Karimi, Mahdavikia, zandi, kaebi, and not any sure about Daei. That fool pisses me off whenever he plays, but hopefully hell be in decent shape for the worldcup. Anyways, this worldcup will be just like France 98 when US was talking mad shit before the game and they got hammered. We have hell alot better players then 98. I know team melli will play their best if the ***king Iranian government leave them the ***k alone!!!!:smoking:

[Iranfan06]

Holy s***, this kid is a fing faggot. WHAT A BITCH!! He doesn't know jackshit about Iranian football. F*** you. No Iranian ever flew a plane into any building and they never will, you bastard. Shut your mouth before you get kicked out of the forum

[Iranfan06]

Here's what will happen
Mexico has a good team, but it's way to overrated. Portugal has an amazing, star-studed team. Iran has a strong offense with a couple of bundesliga-based players(mahdavikia, karimi, zandi). Angola has a slim chance, but they could pull an upset or two, and they're on their way to getting smashed by argentina or holland.

[el chingon]

mexico is going to beat iran:) :) iranians think that they're team is going to beat mexico:D :D they arent going to score on oswaldo sanchez

[Stryker06]

Here's what will happen
Mexico has a good team, but it's way to overrated. Portugal has an amazing, star-studed team. Iran has a strong offense with a couple of bundesliga-based players(mahdavikia, karimi, zandi). Angola has a slim chance, but they could pull an upset or two, and they're on their way to getting smashed by argentina or holland.

angola smashed by holland or argentina? that's a good one. i think mexico'll be the ones to get smashed in the next round. after they caned iran and finished 2nd.
btw, mahdavikia has been completely outshone by van der vaart at hsv. the iranian is on his last legs.

[supersjd]

:stop:

[bernardo8]

ive already mentioned it in the other thread abou group d predictions
1 Portugal 2 Mexico 3 Iran 4 Angola

and yes im serious about angola tying mexico hahah yes no kidding, thats just what i think

[culooche]

angola smashed by holland or argentina? that's a good one. i think mexico'll be the ones to get smashed in the next round. after they caned iran and finished 2nd.
btw, mahdavikia has been completely outshone by van der vaart at hsv. the iranian is on his last legs.

Naaa, Mahdavikia is improving more and more....

[superpars01]

"Iran Mexico cheh karesh mikoneh? soorakh soorakhesh mikoneh!!!" Oswaldo Sanches, ooohhhhh, you actually think that?? Karimi will score on his ass with ease! Again underestamating us! too bad!!!!!!!!!!!!

[culooche]

Baba...bezar hameen began team melli mibaze, behtar, bad mogheyi ke ma bordeem as meksik va portegal, haha, bad meebeenan iran josve behtareen teamast, badam dige kir bazi dar nemeeyaran.

[stuglue]

Should Mexico underate Iran(which i very much doubt as ALL team's will do their homework)then they will be punished.Mexico are a side that on their day can beat any team but they never maintain that level.They tend to struggle against teams that play a fast tempo pressing game giving little time on the ball.As for Iran the most critical time for them will be the opening 15mins of most games,if they can survive this they can start to impose themselves on the opposition.They do tend to need at least 20mins to settle into matches.Portugal of course have a talented team but they still are some way short of a world class forward.I know nothing of Angola so you never know they might surprise us all.

[Iranfan06]

I don't think Angola will surprise. Iranians, let's be realistic. Mexico has a great team. Iran will have a tough time playing against them, although, they can beat them.

[superpars01]

Hell yeah. its just the ignorance that fool has! that fool lucky its online! khodaya Iran bezaneh mekziko do hich bebareh

[superpars01]

Iran wont have a hard time beating them, they got over***king rated buggeti and he will be choked by karimi! I aint ignarant, mexico is a good team but not good enough. they never played well in worldcup. The only team to worry is in fact the purtugal. They are in the top shape European teams and the game with them is the one to really worry about!

[bernardo8]

Iran wont have a hard time beating them, they got over***king rated buggeti and he will be choked by karimi! I aint ignarant, mexico is a good team but not good enough. they never played well in worldcup. The only team to worry is in fact the purtugal. They are in the top shape European teams and the game with them is the one to really worry about!

well.. :boo:, first if all u say ur not ignorant and u spell buggeti, go to car forums and talk about bugatti, haha its borgetti, ive never overrated him, hes a very good striker thats all, i think the only one overrating here is you, with karimi, ive seen him hes also a good player but not as good as u mention it, also oswaldo is one of the best goalkeepers currently in the world, seriously im just placing him behind buffon, casillas, cech, kahn (i think hes a bit overrated, hes old), VDS(well hes old too), i dunno if im forgetting someone, but the point is that hes an excellent goalie. dude ive never underestimated iran, ive mentioned that theyre a very good team in which mexico can get past them but with tough time. and ur saying all u need to worry is about portugal, i think mexico will tie with portugal and mexico beats iran by a minimum difference, but i think portugal beats iran by at least 2 goals.

[jesuslomas15]

Iran wont have a hard time beating them, they got over***king rated buggeti and he will be choked by karimi! I aint ignarant, mexico is a good team but not good enough. they never played well in worldcup. The only team to worry is in fact the purtugal. They are in the top shape European teams and the game with them is the one to really worry about!

I think we havent done good is because we always get a hard ass teams to play but this is not hard or easy because i dont know the teams and just because we dont have all are squad playing in europe doesnt mean were not good that why coach is going to send people to watch angola and iran play and he will watch videos of portugal no one should be talking shit untill the world

[Stryker06]

Iran wont have a hard time beating them, they got over***king rated buggeti and he will be choked by karimi! I aint ignarant, mexico is a good team but not good enough. they never played well in worldcup. The only team to worry is in fact the purtugal. They are in the top shape European teams and the game with them is the one to really worry about!

as if iran have done anything but pish all in the cup. they're walkovers cum lightweights. nothing more.

[bboy treble]

Yes, probably in 4-12 yrs...when the guy on my sig will be tearing it up for Barca and the Mexican NT and when some of those other U-17 world champs mature enough.Im aware that not all of them will grow up to be as good professionally as they were as amateurs but there's some that have star written all over them.

I think Mexico's golden generation (atleast compared to what theyve had so far) is on its way, and for now a quarterfinal would be good enough.

you are basing this on mexico's u-17 world championship win??

well african nations have been doing really well in youth chamipionships too for yrs

and they still haven't won a WC

so youth titles dont matter

also mexico is not at the level of portugal but higer than iran

it should be

1. portugal
2. mexico
3. iran
4. angola

then again there is always the fact that mexico always does good in group rounds

unforunatly after that they usually get knocked out

[culooche]

as if iran have done anything but pish all in the cup. they're walkovers cum lightweights. nothing more.

Dude.....English......faggot....

[el chingon]

mexico is going to kill iran...... karimi isnt going to score against oswaldo sanchez:ronaldo: :ronaldo: :ronaldo:

[bernardo8]

I think ricardo lavolpe should take giovanni dos santos to the WC, maybe not give him the opportunity to play but, taking him to the world cup will make him mature a lot, in 2002 it was ronaldos 3rd world cup, in 94 he didnt play but was part of the squad. Giovanni even mentioned it once, he would love to go to the WC, and he would still love it even if he didnt play. I agree with him, Pele was given this opportunity in 58, of course there is no one like Pele
but well just look at this, i took it from a post from El Kapitan on another thread.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/spanish/mis...00/4300116.stm

[Iranfan06]

Guys, don't be so sure about Iran winning against mexico. This is what iran always does. They never get prepared enough. Mexico is playing 8 teams to prepare and what are we doing? nothing. The only friendly we have coming up is Perspolis v. Bayern Munich (Go Perspolis!!). If we go to the world cup with this unpreparedness, we will get our asses kicked by these mexicans.

[stuglue]

Yes but remember before France 98 they play a few warm up matches against some low Serie A teams and got hammered 8-0.Then they played in the final and pushed the Slavs beat the US and faired ok against the Germans

[Iranfan06]

Stryker 06, you're a piece of shit. You are truly an idiot. I gathered some of the quotes Stryker has said over the forums. DOES THIS KID HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO BUT BE RACIST?? and on the internet. You know if you actually said that to any of us, you'd get ur ass kicked. That's why you have to say it on the internet.

" I were a fan of the Iranian soccer team, maybe i'd think of jumping. or if my english was as retarded as ado's."----------Get a life, kid

"don't be so emotional my little plum pudding. soon you'll be ready to fly the plane into the building. i know how much a camel humper such as you hates being in the usa. but it's not time yet. soon my friend, have patience."--------"Camel humper"? Seriously? i guess you're a hummer humper then.

"we know how demented your mind is. fighting is what your grew up with. you don't know any better."---------Concerning the whole Serbian nation

"korea sucks."----------You suck, my friend

"there, there, take a deep breath, and don't exhale."------What?

"not excusable. neither is what you're gonna do. go to paradise son, it's there, where iranian soccer players aren't useless dicks, it's paradise, just fly in the building first son, killing hundreds of innocent people is what you do best."----------awww... is someone pissed that their country lost to iran?

"maybe if i orignally came from such a craphole that iran is i would consider ending my life"-------Iran-a craphole? What the f*** do you know?

Seriously, does this kid have a life? DO you have anything better to do?
I'd strongly recommend getting a girlfriend SOOON.
Anyways, that's all i had time finding, there's probably more stupid thing this kid has said, and if he has, please add. WHAT A RETARD!!

[stuglue]

He lives in a very small world,population one

[ricoo9]

I think ricardo lavolpe should take giovanni dos santos to the WC, maybe not give him the opportunity to play but, taking him to the world cup will make him mature a lot, in 2002 it was ronaldos 3rd world cup, in 94 he didnt play but was part of the squad. Giovanni even mentioned it once, he would love to go to the WC, and he would still love it even if he didnt play. I agree with him, Pele was given this opportunity in 58, of course there is no one like Pele
but well just look at this, i took it from a post from El Kapitan on another thread.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/spanish/mis...00/4300116.stm


LOL dude the kid is 16 yo, take him to a wc? maybe u guys should so u can stop nationalizin argentinans and brazilians. but either way the kid is 16 yo, and hes no pele

[RojINeGrO5051]

id take giovanni over zinha or gaitan {if lavolpe decides to take them}

[Stryker06]

Stryker 06, you're a piece of shit. You are truly an idiot. I gathered some of the quotes Stryker has said over the forums. DOES THIS KID HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO BUT BE RACIST?? and on the internet. You know if you actually said that to any of us, you'd get ur ass kicked. That's why you have to say it on the internet.

" I were a fan of the Iranian soccer team, maybe i'd think of jumping. or if my english was as retarded as ado's."----------Get a life, kid

"don't be so emotional my little plum pudding. soon you'll be ready to fly the plane into the building. i know how much a camel humper such as you hates being in the usa. but it's not time yet. soon my friend, have patience."--------"Camel humper"? Seriously? i guess you're a hummer humper then.

"we know how demented your mind is. fighting is what your grew up with. you don't know any better."---------Concerning the whole Serbian nation

"korea sucks."----------You suck, my friend

"there, there, take a deep breath, and don't exhale."------What?

"not excusable. neither is what you're gonna do. go to paradise son, it's there, where iranian soccer players aren't useless dicks, it's paradise, just fly in the building first son, killing hundreds of innocent people is what you do best."----------awww... is someone pissed that their country lost to iran?

"maybe if i orignally came from such a craphole that iran is i would consider ending my life"-------Iran-a craphole? What the f*** do you know?

Seriously, does this kid have a life? DO you have anything better to do?
I'd strongly recommend getting a girlfriend SOOON.
Anyways, that's all i had time finding, there's probably more stupid thing this kid has said, and if he has, please add. WHAT A RETARD!!

that's a heck of a lot of quotes. did i really say all those great things? hey, why've you got so much time to gather all those quotes? how ironic, i think you're the one who hasn't got a life.
just worry bout your going nowhere team that's gonna get spanked by angola kid. don't waste your time being jelous of my great form of literature.

[bernardo8]

LOL dude the kid is 16 yo, take him to a wc? maybe u guys should so u can stop nationalizin argentinans and brazilians. but either way the kid is 16 yo, and hes no pele

dude im not saying get him into a game, just take him as part of the squad, seriously, only like 16 players out of the 23 that go to the world cup see any action during the whole tournament, if lavolpe could take him he wouldnt be taking another players position, i also said that there was no one compared to pele, ronaldo was 17 when he went to USA 94, so will be gio; it will certainly help him a lot, maturing and stuff.

and people, please stop all the hating, its a soccer forum

[Iranfan06]

It doesn't really take all that much tiem gathering quotes. I just typed in your name in the search box and all these quotes came up and i found out about your mental and emotional problems. and second of all, who's the one with the 234 posts? i only have maybe 19 or 20. DUDE, YOU HAVE NO LIFE.

[Stryker06]

by your definition, the more posts, the less of a life. ronnie, bboy, omar et al, you might be mods and/or respected posters, but you have no life.
well, according to this half-wit.

[culooche]

Seriously......your a dumb shit, I really feel bad for you and your family...can't believe your family has piece-of-shit son like you....did your parents teach you morals and manners or did they just abuse and rape you???? I bet you've been growing up in a wrong type of family, you disrespect alot of people and races......YOU GET ASS RAPED BY YOUR PARENTS...HAHAHAHHA....WHAT A FAT BITCH....I don't want hear from your faggot-ass again....understand bitch?????

[superpars01]

If I could get a hold of this ignorant little brained mother ***ker I would break his neck in ***king ten places. dahanesho gaeedam, koskesheh madar jendeh. I cant wait until wc. In less then six months everything gonna get straight the ***k up!

[Stryker06]

anyone else get the idea yuey and dewey above are the same person? i guess you're just missing louie from your deranged schizophranic defective and (most of all)dysfunctional mind.
i can't believe they give these nutjobs internet access over at the santa clara psychiatric intstitute.

[chaymin]

LOL dude the kid is 16 yo, take him to a wc? maybe u guys should so u can stop nationalizin argentinans and brazilians. but either way the kid is 16 yo, and hes no pele

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[culooche]

anyone else get the idea yuey and dewey above are the same person? i guess you're just missing louie from your deranged schizophranic defective and (most of all)dysfunctional mind.
i can't believe they give these nutjobs internet access over at the santa clara psychiatric intstitute.

Dude????? Did you read the comments??????? wow, ***king dumbass.....you didn't answer my question, do you have a ***ked up family????

[superpars01]

stryker06 is a bitch ass mother ***ker! talking shit online! thats cool though its funny how you think you some shit! I would ***king break your mother ***king ass in half!culooche is right! you must grow up in a ***ked up family! I wonder if I could get a hold of you, no never mind that would not be right! Ill ***king whip your bitch ass so bad and put your ass in the hospital?

[Iranfan06]

I'm happy my quotes helped everyone to realize what an idiot stryker really is.

[PalancaBranca06]

Who thinks that Angola can be one of the first two of this group?
I think it is possible! For Cote d'Ivoire in group C and for Gana in group E it's almost impossible, but our group is not so difficult!

[Stryker06]

sure angola'll put a couple past irania-land. if these idiots above are anything to go by. iran has a crap defence so angola's amateur strikers could probably dance past them.

[stuglue]

Shut up Nelson Munce no one likes you

[el chingon]

Who thinks that Angola can be one of the first two of this group?
I think it is possible! For Cote d'Ivoire in group C and for Gana in group E it's almost impossible, but our group is not so difficult!

i think they have a small chance, ive watched a couple of angola games like a game or two, they got some good, fast players

[culooche]

Shut up Nelson Munce no one likes you

Yeah Seriously....

[Iranfan06]

haha, "angola can put a couple past Iran". Are you kidding me?

[bernardo8]

Iran wont have a hard time beating them, they got over***king rated buggeti and he will be choked by karimi! I aint ignarant, mexico is a good team but not good enough. they never played well in worldcup. The only team to worry is in fact the purtugal. They are in the top shape European teams and the game with them is the one to really worry about!

are u kidding me?

[chaymin]

are u kidding me?

He's in for a surprise... :D :D

[superpars01]

are u kidding me?
I aint kidding you at all! I know that you think mexico is in top 10 but in fact we have a totally different style football and with the bad ass players we have now (except couple) we will put a good show! It will be a fenominal game and full of surprises! you'll see!

[el chingon]

mexico is going to beat iran for sure............especially if bofo has the ball in the penalty box, his a good actor:D :D

[PalancaBranca06]

haha, "angola can put a couple past Iran". Are you kidding me?
I bet that you have never seen any match of Angola and you are talking like this because you overestimate Iran and underestimate Angola.
Come on, Iran and Angola are the underdogs in this group, and the one of us that beat the other and tie one of Portugal or Mexico has a chance. And this can be Angola too.

I bet that if it was Nigeria you wouldn't talk like this. But you are forgetting that we eliminated Nigeria.

I suggest you to see the African Cup, and observe Angola. And let's talk in february.

[Iranfan06]

I'm not gonna be cocky like some of these mexicans or stryker, saying that we can beat angola easily: but you have to face it. Iran has more of a chance than Angola.

[ricoo9]

I bet that you have never seen any match of Angola and you are talking like this because you overestimate Iran and underestimate Angola.
Come on, Iran and Angola are the underdogs in this group, and the one of us that beat the other and tie one of Portugal or Mexico has a chance. And this can be Angola too.

I bet that if it was Nigeria you wouldn't talk like this. But you are forgetting that we eliminated Nigeria.

I suggest you to see the African Cup, and observe Angola. And let's talk in february.

didnt Angola just lose to some second division club of spain like 3-0? do u really expect them to do well after they lose to a club like that?

[superpars01]

You got a point there!

[superpars01]

I'm not gonna be cocky like some of these mexicans or stryker, saying that we can beat angola easily: but you have to face it. Iran has more of a chance than Angola.
Hell yeah they do! You know how Iran plays! Angola has very slim chance against Iran! But I always respect african football! They are very quick and Irans defense has to watch out, especially yahya! He is one of the 3 players that should not be playin along with Grandpa Daei!!:smoking:

[vojvoda]

Gentlemen take it easy! THis is the world cup and everybody has a chance to progress to the next stage. Of course that Mexico and Portugal are clear favourites to advance but you never know. I think both Iran and Angola and especially Iran are capable of upseting anybody so nobody can say for sure who is going to win! Many people are underestimating the Africans and that is wrong approach since every tournament they introduce a surprise package or two and this time around I hope it is Ghana and Tunisia! As of Angola, I think they are the big time underdogs and need divine intervention to pass the group but as I said earlier impossible is nothing!
My prediction is this
1. Portugal
2. Iran

Mexico is a solid team but I think they might slip up! That is just my opinion!:Pound:

[el chingon]

no mexico will advance and probably in 1st in their group

SI SE PUEDE!!!!!!!

[ricoo9]

no mexico will advance and probably in 1st in their group

SI SE PUEDE!!!!!!!

do u seriously believe that? Mexico is alright but Portugal is better

[el chingon]

do u seriously believe that? Mexico is alright but Portugal is better

yes hoe, i belive that

mexico, mexico!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bernardo8]

Hell yeah they do! You know how Iran plays! Angola has very slim chance against Iran! But I always respect african football! They are very quick and Irans defense has to watch out, especially yahya! He is one of the 3 players that should not be playin along with Grandpa Daei!!:smoking:
youve also got to face it, hell yea mexico has more chances than iran

[ricoo9]

yes hoe, i belive that

mexico, mexico!!!!!!!!!!!!

well mexico is known for gettin good results in the first round but after their known for showing their true colors....USA 2 - mexico 0

[Stryker06]

i still can't believe mexico couldn't even get past the us in that game.

[superpars01]

well mexico is known for gettin good results in the first round but after their known for showing their true colors....USA 2 - mexico 0
LOL:lol: Hell yeah Iran going to beat mexico! Iran 2 mexico 1:laugh:

[superpars01]

They lost to US like I think 3-1! now thats ***king sad:faint2: :sad:

[el chingon]

dont worry mexico is going to be 1st in their group

[chaymin]

LOL:lol: Hell yeah Iran going to beat mexico! Iran 2 mexico 1:laugh:

Not even in your dreams. :sleep: :sleep:

[chaymin]

10 de enero de 106, 15:17
Pide Scolari espiar a México

Técnico brasileño de Portugal enviará ayudantes no sólo a analizar los partidos del Tricolor, sino también a Angola en la Copa de África. Junto con Irán, las cuatro selecciones conforman el Grupo D para Alemania 2006.

AP
El técnico de Portugal desea mantener de cerca el desarrollo futbolístico de sus rivales previo a la Copa del Mundo
Lisboa.- Arnaldo Cunha, del departamento técnico de la selección lusa, será el encargado de "espiar" al combinado mexicano con vistas al Mundial de Alemania, informó hoy la Federación Portuguesa de Fútbol (FPF) en un comunicado.

La nota aclaró que Cunha viajará a Estados Unidos para asistir al partido amistoso que México tiene previsto disputar ante Noruega el próximo 25 de enero en Los Ángeles.

El técnico de la FPF aprovechará el viaje para acudir, cuatro días después, al partido entre las selecciones de Estados Unidos y Noruega en San Francisco.

El seleccionador portugués, el brasileño Luiz Felipe Scolari, enviará a su ayudante, Flavio Murtosa, a Egipto para seguir la Copa de África, en especial los partidos de la selección de Angola.

Scolari viajará a Egipto para presenciar el partido entre la selección africana y Togo, el próximo 28 de enero.

El ayudante del seleccionador luso dedicará atención a los combinados de Ghana y Costa de Marfil, también clasificadas para el Mundial de Alemania 2006.

Portugal forma parte del grupo D en la primera fase de clasificación para el Mundial 2006, junto a las selecciones de México, Angola e Irán.

[Iranfan06]

In English, fag. so we can all understand.

[bernardo8]

In English, fag. so we can all understand.

its not our fault ur ***king ignorant, if u dont know spanish then go learn some or get someone to translate it