Canada should apply for the WC tournament

[Toke-E-Yo]

Ok well hear me out at least, b4 you start criticising. Canada (although not the best nation) has major, MAJOR potential. Its not Canada lacks people, and facilites, espacially on the west coast. IMO football far surpasses the popularity of Rugby, baseball, and Hockey in Vancouver. Here are my reasons for why Canada should apply for the world cup

1. Boosts popularity of football in Canada. This would allow for more people to take football seriously and aim for a National Team spot, which in turn would make a better national team

2. Boosts economy Japan and Koreas torusit revenue went up (I believe) 35% when they held the tournament. the WC would allow for more people to see the beauty of Canada

3. More MLS clubs would move in to Canada thus again improving the popularity. after tghe Torornto expansion, it should move in to Vancouver, Montreal, and Calgary/Edmonton

4. Respect would be gained for Canadian football in general which would be recognised by everyone. Again, I turn to Japan/Korea 2002. The world has begun to respect these nations as up and coming powerhouses because of the good job that they did hosting the WC.

But hey, those are just my opinions, all opinions are wlecome. feel free to add on something good or bad...

[Joe MacCarthy]

Ok well hear me out at least, b4 you start criticising. Canada (although not the best nation) has major, MAJOR potential. Its not Canada lacks people, and facilites, espacially on the west coast. IMO football far surpasses the popularity of Rugby, baseball, and Hockey in Vancouver. Here are my reasons for why Canada should apply for the world cup
It amazes me about how little young people now about the history of this country. Nobody does a big event or project (Olympics, World Championship Events, Expositions, CPR, TCH, Seaway) better than Canada, that's what we do best. We have a proven history of it. It's just unfortunate that we've had a do nothing (re: big projects) government in power for most of the country's young people's lives so they've never seen an Olympics or Expo and seem to think we are not up to the task.

I assume you mean Canada is not the best soccer country as we were ranked by the United Nations the best country in the world to live 7 years in a row and I doubt if we've ever been out of the top ten in the last ten years.

I also assume by rugby you are mistaking that for Canadian football or are you not familiar with that. And no, soccer is not more popular than any of the sports you mention, that is sure folly. In terms of registration numbers soccer is the number one participation sport. In terms of viewership and popularity it barely registers.

You will see three MLS teams in Canada by 2012, likely sooner. That is in the works now.

You will also not see another WC bid like Japorea and the insane building of white elephants. Germany and SA are not following that model. Cost controls, security and safety are what is important.

The CSA already has a bid plan for the World Cup at their website. In my opinion it is too modest but our reputation for hosting world class events would make it look better. As I said in an earlier post there won't be any more 50,000 seat permanent stadiums built in Canada.

[chuncho_azul]

it might happen someday, but not anytime soon. canada does not have a big enough market to host the WC

[supersjd]

it might happen someday, but not anytime soon. canada does not have a big enough market to host the WC

it would be amazing .. hope it happens some day

[Joe MacCarthy]

it might happen someday, but not anytime soon. canada does not have a big enough market to host the WCThere is no tangible reason why Canada cannot host a World Cup should we decide.

There is a very short list of countries that have/will have hosted three Olympics and we're on it. We are a G7 nation involved in the largest trading relationship in the world. It's only a matter of present infrastructure.

We would have to choose to build and/or refurbish ten stadiums. I don't think at present the political will is there. If the will was to come we could bid and win. We are on a short list of countries that could realistically host and have not yet.

Here is the link to the CSA WC Feasibility Study from 2000. It is an extremely conservative bid but if we were to get serious about this it would be greatly enhanced. That was five years ago long before the following events, so it is outdated:
http://www.canadasoccer.com/eng/docs/wcstudy-eng.pdf

Canada is bidding for the 2014 Commonwealth Games, a bid that will most likely succeed, so there will be a new stadium in Halifax, Ottawa, York Region or Hamilton.

Montreal, Vancouver and Toronto will all have smaller SSS stadiums and possibly still have their larger stadiums available for refurbishment. If anyone thinks these facilities are too old check out the Berlin stadium photo Toke-E-Yo posted earlier which was built for the 1936 Olympic Games and refurbed and refurbed again for the WC.

Taylor Field in Regina has a renovation plan in the works and Winnipeg has also commissioned a study to build a new stadium below:

http://tinypic.com/fcu04n.jpg

It is a bare bones bid but I think if the political will was to get serious the bid would be greatly upgraded.

Let's not be under the illusion that big expensive stadiums will win a World Cup bid like Japorea. In these uncertain times in the world, it's about security, legacy, and safety as well as profit. Remember that the security costs for an event like this are astronomical but that is something that we would have in our favour over other bidders.

The Olympic movement is downsizing and the World Cup will likely do the same regarding the number of sites used (although not necessarily less teams)

[toronto_soccer]

the governments of old would just spend money as if there was a majical money tree and everything would be alright and it was the taxpayers who got the shaft as always. montreal is still in debt for their olympics of 76 and i'm so glad everytime toronto is denied their bid. as for a world cup it could happen but what to do whith the stadiums after? us taxpayers will be left with another debt. and not to even mention security, as canada is a haven for terrorists and organized crime as stated many times by csis.

[Joe MacCarthy]

the governments of old would just spend money as if there was a majical money tree and everything would be alright and it was the taxpayers who got the shaft as always. montreal is still in debt for their olympics of 76 and i'm so glad everytime toronto is denied their bid. as for a world cup it could happen but what to do whith the stadiums after? us taxpayers will be left with another debt. and not to even mention security, as canada is a haven for terrorists and organized crime as stated many times by csis.Not sure what you mean by what to do with the stadiums after. In Korea and Japan they are wondering that but they went nuts on their construction. We learned our lesson with the Big Owe and SkyDome.

What we would have would be 10 new/refurbished under 35,000 seat CFL and public stadiums that don't have retractable domes and movable pitches on cement slabs.

There is no safer country than Canada. Security here has never been an issue. You can bet CSIS and the Vancouver Olympic organizing commitee have already begun formulating their security plan.

I think it's a myth about being a haven for terrorists. Do we have lax immigration/travel laws? Probably. But we haven't had an internal act of terrorism IIRC since 1970 or have any terrorists originating from Canada committed any acts. The only exceptions I can think of are the guy who was caught at the border with the explosives and the not proven in court Air India bombers.

Don't think we need to worry about the Canadian organized crime scene and a World Cup.