we are going to be fined!

[GROBARdoSMRTI]

yep close to a million francs is probably inevitable..i think we deserve it to be perfectly honest

"Noz Zica Srebrenica".... do i need to comment on that? which idiot sayss omething like that? those guys should be hanged

as far as the misconduct that is pretty much expected and if there wasn't harsh racial insults (especially srebrenica) we probably wouldn't get fined

once again, our own serbian stupidity will cost us money... with a worse reputation to go along with it

[soccer_fan]

is this for the bih v scg came????

if so , good they deserve it those racist pricks... behave like animals and should be hung.. As if you would do such a thing to people who you outnumber 30:1.
It's pathetic attacking kids and stuff like that but meh some people will never change, they just need to grow up and realise that they did the wrong thing in the past and need to apologize and be friends with their neighbouring countries.
Look at germany.. they got over it and they are doing fine now =D

shame to all the "normal" serbs, there country is being shamed by idiots... and the whole world sees it.

p.s they are lucky they didnt get DQ butt fifa are stupid and don't care about small countries, they just let it pass over cause they know not many people will see it or care.

[Milos_]

meh its a fine whatever our fans are idiots but we still won the game and thats all i care about,im not ashamed of anything this team has brought nothing but pride to me.samo napred plavi.

Soccer_fan you sound alot like a croat:D they need to grow up and realize that they did wrong in the past and apologize :rolleyes: please

[miladin]

is this for the bih v scg came????

if so , good they deserve it those racist pricks... behave like animals and should be hung.. As if you would do such a thing to people who you outnumber 30:1.
It's pathetic attacking kids and stuff like that but meh some people will never change, they just need to grow up and realise that they did the wrong thing in the past and need to apologize and be friends with their neighbouring countries.
Look at germany.. they got over it and they are doing fine now =D

shame to all the "normal" serbs, there country is being shamed by idiots... and the whole world sees it.

p.s they are lucky they didnt get DQ butt fifa are stupid and don't care about small countries, they just let it pass over cause they know not many people will see it or care.

you are definately biast, you cannot make those outragous accusations.
You cannot make it out that in these balkan wars and what not, it was one sides fault! there are wrong doings by everyone. Buy i'd like to know what nationality you are?

anyway, you were not at the game, you probably didn't even watch the game. So nobody wants to hear your worthless input :) go :blabla: in the mirror instead of typing it on this thread :D

[PartizanBeograd]

is this for the bih v scg came????

if so , good they deserve it those racist pricks... behave like animals and should be hung.. As if you would do such a thing to people who you outnumber 30:1.
It's pathetic attacking kids and stuff like that but meh some people will never change, they just need to grow up and realise that they did the wrong thing in the past and need to apologize and be friends with their neighbouring countries.
Look at germany.. they got over it and they are doing fine now =D

shame to all the "normal" serbs, there country is being shamed by idiots... and the whole world sees it.

p.s they are lucky they didnt get DQ butt fifa are stupid and don't care about small countries, they just let it pass over cause they know not many people will see it or care.

Buddy dont come here talking about u know all about the civil war.
What Germany did was completly different to what happened in the Former Yugoslavia. If u only did some reasearch, you would understand why Serbs resorted to war.

[soccer_fan]

i actually did a thesis on balkan conflicts in uni.. and i am not bias i think many serbs are bias and dont offer other balkan countires a fair go .. they just get straight into the racial abuse.. which is pretty low..

im american.. but grandfather is croatian.. but that doesnt automatically make me bias.. i just look at the facts buddy.. and anyway dont get me wrong.. its not like i have a hatred to serbs :rolleyes: not all.. many of you are nice and i have had serb friends in the past but .. what can i think when i see racial slogans as peoples sigs lol.. do you want me to think "serbia is the most civilised and toelrant country ever" when i see people suppourting cetniks who raped and killed children. pfft fat chance that will happen. Anyway it wasnt really a civil war. but i don't want to talk about the war and neither should you cause you weren't there you are just some kid who wants to be part of something that is horrific and wrong. I dont understand why ppl suppourt the killing of kids and stuff.. do you? are you proud of you countries past??

congrats on making it to wc as well..

p.s .. i dont understand how you can say it wasnt one sides fault.. thats like saying germany was blaming everything on the jews during ww2.. which they did.. i mean croats , slovaks and bosnians just wanted independence.. but also higher serbian officials were planning to take over bosnia to make "a greater serbia" and by doing that they would cleanse all muslims which is genocide. And also some of my croat friends say serbs were to scared to invade croatia so they only attacked certain outskirts and small towns. Anyway no more talk about war... i hate it..

Is it true that serbia is getting fined or just a rumour.. do you have a link to your source? :sleepy:

[Ravna Gora]

You are clearly misinformed. Where did u do ur research CNN :lol: The Chetnik movement ceased to exist in 1946, when Communism took its firm hold on Yugoslavia. As a researcher you would know that Chetniks did not exist in the recent Balkan wars, that was only a slang that Croats used for Serbs, as Serbs did for the Croats, by calling them the Ustase. Whenever Croats say that "Chetniks killed their family", they are wrong. Chetniks ceased to exist in 1946 and are now war veterans from WWII, being the only surviving fighters of the King's Guard. Get your facts straight and learn that every side did just as bad as the other, and that there were no Chetniks or Ustase in that war. Just Serbian and Croatian military forces, and the JNA (the Yugoslav National Army).

[miladin]

im american.. but grandfather is croatian..





well, there's the explanation guys :)

And stop bringing up the murders of innocent children and rapings of women. It happened to serbs just as much, so shut THE F***K UP cos u DONT HAVE A FKN IDEA OF WHAT SOME PPL HAVE GONE THROUGH.

GO SWIMMING WITH THE SHARKS, ur so bias its not even funny. As if you go to uni, you sound like a stupid twit.

[miladin]

And also some of my croat friends say serbs were to scared to invade croatia so they only attacked certain outskirts and small towns. Anyway no more talk about war... i hate it..



if you dont want to talk about it, how about you shut-the-FU#K-UP

[PartizanBeograd]

i actually did a thesis on balkan conflicts in uni.. and i am not bias i think many serbs are bias and dont offer other balkan countires a fair go .. they just get straight into the racial abuse.. which is pretty low..

im american.. but grandfather is croatian.. but that doesnt automatically make me bias.. i just look at the facts buddy.. and anyway dont get me wrong.. its not like i have a hatred to serbs :rolleyes: not all.. many of you are nice and i have had serb friends in the past but .. what can i think when i see racial slogans as peoples sigs lol.. do you want me to think "serbia is the most civilised and toelrant country ever" when i see people suppourting cetniks who raped and killed children. pfft fat chance that will happen. Anyway it wasnt really a civil war. but i don't want to talk about the war and neither should you cause you weren't there you are just some kid who wants to be part of something that is horrific and wrong. I dont understand why ppl suppourt the killing of kids and stuff.. do you? are you proud of you countries past??

congrats on making it to wc as well..

p.s .. i dont understand how you can say it wasnt one sides fault.. thats like saying germany was blaming everything on the jews during ww2.. which they did.. i mean croats , slovaks and bosnians just wanted independence.. but also higher serbian officials were planning to take over bosnia to make "a greater serbia" and by doing that they would cleanse all muslims which is genocide. And also some of my croat friends say serbs were to scared to invade croatia so they only attacked certain outskirts and small towns. Anyway no more talk about war... i hate it..

Is it true that serbia is getting fined or just a rumour.. do you have a link to your source? :sleepy:

Buddy u have no idea. Did u know that 70% of Serbia are Serbs, which means 30% of the population are others. What other country in Europe has such a multicultural population?
Why is it that the Isrealis can fight the Palestinian rebellion, but we cannot fight the albanian rebellion. Why is it that we are always labeled as killers, just becuase we want to defend our country. Why were the refeguees flooding out of Kosovo, when Nato started to bomb? WHY ? WHY?
so many missing links. Certainly CCN cannot explain these.
Why are the serbs so afriad of being ruled by Zagreb or Sarajevo?WHY?
do some research on ww2. and come back to us.

Or maybe there is only 1 true story, that Serbs love to kill others.
And we think of it as a sport? Or is it that all we want is to be left alone?
Know this the only truth u will get from the balkans is the lie.

[GROBARdoSMRTI]

well all this shit isn't related to my post! but anyway this guy clearly is biased and is a typical american as can clearly be seen (university educated which is even more unfortunate)

the world image about Serbs (not world actually, just American) is pretty negative, but that doesn't matter becuase if you actually hang around intellectual circles you will see that most people have nothing against Serbs in fact can sympathise with us to a large extent...

personally im sick of hate, towards americans croats or bosnians...i dont reall care anymore, im looking to make my life better as an individual...once i get my house and my BMW ill be set and people can dis Serbs all they want it really won't matter to me... thats in reality how you beat them, be successful and their ignorance will backfire

its too bad most intelligent serbs left Serbia because it really is hard to live there with the others because of their primitive attitude (the game is a classic example)

nothing will change for serbs until we change whats in our heads! thats our primary setback

[djani]

To relate back to your post , I agree with you to a certain extent.
We deserve to be fined for the completely unnecessary and irresponsible behavior , as does BiH for the broken chair damage done to Marakana. I could care less if any of you think I am being bias, you are entitled to your opinion. But I am sick and tired of this stupid arguing about politics and what not, don't bring the war into this... it is not necessary. For once people look at it from both sides, put your self in someone else's shoes... All we do is say how much the other side hurt us but we don't even bother to see how what we do may affect them. However I disagree that the intelligent Serbs have left Serbia, we have many people there that are striving to make a better future for our country. I do not expect you people to agree with me , you have your opinions and I have mine... But let's be respectful to each other and leave the name calling and politics aside and focus on the issue presented. Thank you for the intelligent post GrobardoSmrti.

[stuglue]

Away from the war of the '90's the Balkans(and to be fair many other eastern european countries)in a footbal sense still have terrible racist chanting.When teams from western europe travel to play Red Star or Partizan the black players are subject to a lot of monkey chanting,now that does'nt help Serbs at all and that's nothing to do with muslims or croats it's just plain simple racism.

[Milos_]

Away from the war of the '90's the Balkans(and to be fair many other eastern european countries)in a footbal sense still have terrible racist chanting.When teams from western europe travel to play Red Star or Partizan the black players are subject to a lot of monkey chanting,now that does'nt help Serbs at all and that's nothing to do with muslims or croats it's just plain simple racism.
that happened once in Serbia,2003 to Nathan Blake i think,red Star and Partizan have black players the fans dont make monkey noises at them so i dont get what your trying to say.Croatian fans also made monkey noises....once again serbs are the only ones doing bad things blah blah blah :rolleyes:

[GROBARdoSMRTI]

you guys gota realize no one is out there to get serbs
they arent saying it if it isnt true

for example: who cares if croatians are dissing blacks and making monkey noises? does that excuse our doing it?

just like most serbs when asked "Why do u agree with the poster about Srebrenica", will answer "well did anyone care about the poster that bosnians put about blah blah"...


see its that very mentality that has led to intelligent people leaving serbia

grow the ***k up serbia

[Milos_]

what he was saying wasnt true,he made it seem like monkey chants happen all the time in serbia,but in reality it only happened once,but whatever i just have problems with people dissing on Serbia,i wish i didnt care but i do :sad:

[Stojkovic10]

i mean croats , slovaks and bosnians just wanted independence..

Didn't know that Slovakia was a part of the Yugoslav war. :Peace:

[Ravna Gora]

Buddy u have no idea. Did u know that 70% of Serbia are Serbs, which means 30% of the population are others. What other country in Europe has such a multicultural population?
Why is it that the Isrealis can fight the Palestinian rebellion, but we cannot fight the albanian rebellion. Why is it that we are always labeled as killers, just becuase we want to defend our country. Why were the refeguees flooding out of Kosovo, when Nato started to bomb? WHY ? WHY?
so many missing links. Certainly CCN cannot explain these.
Why are the serbs so afriad of being ruled by Zagreb or Sarajevo?WHY?
do some research on ww2. and come back to us.

Or maybe there is only 1 true story, that Serbs love to kill others.
And we think of it as a sport? Or is it that all we want is to be left alone?
Know this the only truth u will get from the balkans is the lie.

Brother, i would buy you all the rakija you want if i met u. This is the smartest post anyone has put in here for a long time. Also Djani i agree with u 100000% for once ;) . If we kept posting like this no1 would complain about us :lol:

[miladin]

i think its fair.. that those who caused problems and vandalism should be fined. and those who did not should not be prosecuted.

Thats obvious but yeh, these riots will never finish.. and its just part of football.. and other problems that supporters go to the games to fight about..

As much as i dont agree with it, its a chance for people to go and support how they feel, and represent this to a mass community, i.e at a fudbal match.


If there are no offensive signs, but still there is the fire in the crowd, there is nothing wrong with fans being pumped up and shouting and cheering louder than their opponents, its what fudbal is all about.