Lavolpe or hugo? que piensan?

[juanca]

well.....who and why?

its simple, and im sure we all know the question.

who should be el DT of the mexican NT?

personally, id like to see Lavolpe leave for the sole reason that HE said he would.


i dont think hugo would do any better.

but i think mexico needs a new coach either way.


and C. blanco needs to be called damnit!:p

JC

[Calif]

Yo creo que la volpe debe de estar con la seleccion hasta despues del mundial despues tal vez hugo y si no pues Que tal Jesus Ramirez el que hizo campeon ala Sub-17 de mexio?

[aguilas]

The question is simple and so is the Answer, Hugo Sanchez. Lavolpe has always been a loser, and he will always be a loser. He said that there is no talent in Mexico, how the hell can the coach of the our NT say that? To top it off he has been spewing all this BS about a proseso and he dosen't even have a base for the NT, and now he is calling foreigners!! He has been the coach for 3 years and we have absolutly nothing to show for it.

Hugo on the other hand is a born winner. He was triumphed everywhere. In his short career as a coach, he already has more titles than Lavolpe had in his 20+ years as a coach in Mexico. That is beyond pathetic. Hugo would never say that we don't have talent.

[Ese_Guy]

I like La Volpe much better than I like Hugo.
The players seem to like La Volpe. Of course no one is perfect but I think they've performed pretty well under him.

Hugo is/was an awesome player. I think he needs to concentrate on getting his Pumas to get some victories before he goes blabbing about the NT. In my eyes, all he's done so far is make himself look bad.

As far as La Volpe "bad-mouthing" the NT is concerned, I think he had a point there - he needed to light a fire under the NT. Most of the players didn't seem to mind the comment.

[evilmact]

Totally agree with Ese

I can't find any strong reason to fire Lavolpe right now until the end of the WC. Doing that will be stupid, and then what? Hugo to the NT? And what if he fails? Everybody will be askingo for Lavolpe :rolleyes:

The guy knows what he's doing, in the Confed Cup he demonstrated it, so let's trust him..

[aguilas]

The guy knows what he's doing, in the Confed Cup he demonstrated it, so let's trust him..
yes, I was really impresed by the 4th place out of 8 teams :boo:

Lavolpe has failed in every tournamet we have played in. He calls nothing but his friends to the NT and that is unnaceptable.

[Detenator]

I'm in favor of Lavolpe. Hugo Sanchez was successful in his career... but he never did much for the National Team. He might of been league scorer in foriegn leagues, won several titles with the Pumas, but he did nothing with the National Team. Who are Mexico's All time top scorers? Hermosillo, Hernandez, Borgetti... no Sachez! I think he want to be the DT for the NT because he want to redeem himself.

As far as Lavolpe calling on other players to play in the NT, I think that as long as they have enough talent, then they should be allowed. It would be like me (Mex/Braz..but born in the US), not being able to play for the US simply because I am not 100% "American". If that were the case, then a lot of teams would suck because many NT have black players.. should they go back to africa and play for them??? They would be unbeatable!!

Lavolpe has done a good job with the NT. Placing fourth out of eight in the Confed Cup was pretty good!! We didn't get our butts kicked! We lost to powerful teams and we went toe to toe till the last minute!! Creating a good team takes time and patience. Nothing great developes over night. Brazil have awesome players, but even they have trouble beating some weaks teams at times. Mexico beat Brazil in the Confed Cup... what more can be said of that??? Brazil had Ronaldinho, Kaka, Rubinho... damn.. I have no clue what more you guys want out of Mexico!!! Lavolpe has found strong players to play for the NT... Salcido, Lozano, Perez, Zinha. Lavolpe puts in "El Venado" for several games and he don't do shit. Then he puts in Franco... scores a goal and puts up several assists!! If I were the coach, I would definately choose Franco over Venado. Other coaches might of just gone with the old favorites to be starters like: Morales, Brown, Arellano, Blanco, Palencia, and Perez. I think Lavolpe had enough balls to test new players and call out the old. Some of the regular NT players didn't really put any effort into games. When the new ones came, they ran like hell and demonstrated that they wanted a shot at the team. Now that some of the regualrs are not their.. they criticize Lavolpe.

Hugo could be jealous and envious of Lavolpe's job on the teams. He just want to take over what Lavolpe has constructed. Hugo was a good player and is somewhat good of a coach, but he didn't do sh** for the NT. Not that Lozano and Kikin have left... where are the Pumas???????? I'm pretty sure Blanco might be called back into the team. He has improved a bit and is pretty much trying to show people that he SHOULD be in the team. I think Lavolpe is trying to push Blanco to do his best to step up his game even more to improve Mexico. Imagine Blanco a bit faster and more creative?? Blanco can be awesome when he wants to, but he also can have a big head and that's when the team can fall. Mexico will definately be a power to be recon with at the World Cup.. and I will be there!!!!!!

[evilmact]

yes, I was really impresed by the 4th place out of 8 teams :boo:


:lol: It's not about which place but the performance of the team.... we should had gone to finals but lucky Argentina damn it! :mad2: But the team played very well and the prove is that every country congratulated us for that.

BTW, good post Detenator! :thumb:

[Calif]

Imagine Blanco a bit faster and more creative?? Blanco can be awesome when he wants to, but he also can have a big head and that's when the team can fall.


Yo creo que Blanco can be awesome pero pues no se deve de dejar provocar con cosas como las que ocurrieron contra jaguares que trato como de golpear aun fotografo. Imaginen que imagen daria jugando en un juego en la copa del mundo y que haga algo como lo que hizo contra jaguares creo que Cuauthemoc Blanco deveria de controlarse y no reaccionar asi. Pero en otra cosa creo que otro que si se aplicara y no fuera tan inconsistente tal vez tuviera un lugar en la seleccion es Adolfo Bautista "El Bofo" pero pues es un jugador muy inconsistente pero eso si es muy creativo tambien ustedes que creen?

[juanca]

lo siento, pero ese bofo es muy muy malisimo.

no hace nada en chivas y es horrible. solo llama la atencion con sus estilos ridiculos y nada mas.

tb, buen post eseguy, buen punto.

JC

[aguilas]

I like La Volpe much better than I like Hugo.
The players seem to like La Volpe. Of course no one is perfect but I think they've performed pretty well under him.

As far as La Volpe "bad-mouthing" the NT is concerned, I think he had a point there - he needed to light a fire under the NT. Most of the players didn't seem to mind the comment.
Lavolpe is not well liked by the players. Haven't u noticed he only calls his personal friends?

I don't see what fire was lit. Mexico still sucks balls.

[aguilas]

I'm in favor of Lavolpe. Hugo Sanchez was successful in his career... but he never did much for the National Team. He might of been league scorer in foriegn leagues, won several titles with the Pumas, but he did nothing with the National Team. Who are Mexico's All time top scorers? Hermosillo, Hernandez, Borgetti... no Sachez! I think he want to be the DT for the NT because he want to redeem himself.
Lavolpe did even less for his NT, I don't thinkhe even played a game in the Wrold Cup.

As far as Lavolpe calling on other players to play in the NT, I think that as long as they have enough talent, then they should be allowed. It would be like me (Mex/Braz..but born in the US), not being able to play for the US simply because I am not 100% "American"
That was a really bad analogy. El guille and Zinha were not born in Mexico and to make matters worse el guille has only been in Mexico for 3 years. You on the other hand are a full American citizen that was born in the United States.

Lavolpe has done a good job with the NT. Placing fourth out of eight in the Confed Cup was pretty good!! We didn't get our butts kicked! We lost to powerful teams and we went toe to toe till the last minute!!

Theres the mediocre Mexican mentality.

Mexico beat Brazil in the Confed Cup... what more can be said of that??? Brazil had Ronaldinho, Kaka, Rubinho... damn.. I have no clue what more you guys want out of Mexico!!!
Mexico scored and then defended the enitre game, great game huh!!

Lavolpe has found strong players to play for the NT... Salcido, Lozano, Perez, Zinha. Lavolpe puts in "El Venado" for several games and he don't do shit. Then he puts in Franco... scores a goal and puts up several assists!! If I were the coach, I would definately choose Franco over Venado.

First off Luis Perez has demonstrated many times that he sucks with the NT. He can't carry the team and much less win a game for us. You mention Lozano and Salcido, but why don't you mention el maza, chato, mendez, and el chiquis??? Maybe it's because they all suck.

Other coaches might of just gone with the old favorites to be starters like: Morales, Brown, Arellano, Blanco, Palencia, and Perez. I think Lavolpe had enough balls to test new players and call out the old. Some of the regular NT players didn't really put any effort into games. When the new ones came, they ran like hell and demonstrated that they wanted a shot at the team. Now that some of the regualrs are not their.. they criticize Lavolpe.
You really think it is good to have balls at this point?? We are less than a year from the world cup and the idiot dosen't even have a base for the team yet.

Hugo could be jealous and envious of Lavolpe's job on the teams. He just want to take over what Lavolpe has constructed.

What the hell has Lavolpe constructed???? A mediocre team that can't even beat the United States? Oh yeah Hugo is super jelous of Lavolpes amazing team.

Hugo was a good player and is somewhat good of a coach, but he didn't do sh** for the NT.
What did Lavolpe do for Argentina?? I demand an answer

Not that Lozano and Kikin have left... where are the Pumas????????
Pretty much where all of Lavolpes teams were when he was a coach

I'm pretty sure Blanco might be called back into the team.
You're sure that he might get called back??? What the hell does that mean
He has improved a bit and is pretty much trying to show people that he SHOULD be in the team. I think Lavolpe is trying to push Blanco to do his best to step up his game even more to improve Mexico

Very doubtful. They have fist fought before and they hate each other, that is why the best Mexican player isn't on the NT

Imagine Blanco a bit faster and more creative?? Blanco can be awesome when he wants to, but he also can have a big head and that's when the team can fall. Mexico will definately be a power to be recon with at the World Cup.. and I will be there!!!!!!
Hope you have fun watching Mexico go 3 and out.

[evilmact]

That was a really bad analogy. El guille and Zinha were not born in Mexico and to make matters worse el guille has only been in Mexico for 3 years. You on the other hand are a full American citizen that was born in the United States.


Agree with you, I agree about naturalizados but I doubt el Guille feels a true mexican with only 3 years living here.



Theres the mediocre Mexican mentality.


It's not about the place we won, but the performance of the team.... I think we all agree they played really good in the Confed



Mexico scored and then defended the enitre game, great game huh!!


Defending is also part of football, I'd like to know how many teams would also had stopped Adriano, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Robinho and company



First off Luis Perez has demonstrated many times that he sucks with the NT. He can't carry the team and much less win a game for us. You mention Lozano and Salcido, but why don't you mention el maza, chato, mendez, and el chiquis??? Maybe it's because they all suck.


About Perez I think he has played very good in the NT, Mendez and chiquis they both sucked, but Maza and Chato can do it..... at least in the bench


You really think it is good to have balls at this point?? We are less than a year from the world cup and the idiot dosen't even have a base for the team yet.


Lavolpe has said he has 80% of the base


What the hell has Lavolpe constructed???? A mediocre team that can't even beat the United States? Oh yeah Hugo is super jelous of Lavolpes amazing team.


We beat them here.... but let's admit it, USA knows how to play against us and that's why we always suffer with them :rolleyes:

[Calif]

Entonces Aguilas crees que La Volpe should Quit and let Hugo take over the National Team?

[aguilas]

Entonces Aguilas crees que La Volpe should Quit and let Hugo take over the National Team?
No ya no. Es muy tarde para que Hgo entre pero yo creo que fue un error poner a Lavolpe.

[Ese_Guy]

Lavolpe is not well liked by the players. Haven't u noticed he only calls his personal friends?

I don't see what fire was lit. Mexico still sucks balls.
Por eso, the players on the team.
Most every article I read & interview I saw on TV when he made those comments, had to do with motivating the players. The only people hyping his comments were the media and obvioulsy people like Hugo Sanchez that dislike La Volpe. In the same interviews, the players didn't seem "attacked" or "insulted" by the comments. They seem to understand where he was coming from; which was pretty much to motivate the players to play for the love of the jersey.

[Ese_Guy]

No ya no. Es muy tarde para que Hgo entre pero yo creo que fue un error poner a Lavolpe.
I can't find any strong reason to fire Lavolpe right now until the end of the WC. Doing that will be stupid, and then what? Hugo to the NT? And what if he fails? Everybody will be askingo for Lavolpe :rolleyes:

At least you guys agree on one thing :).

[juanca]

saben que, despues de oir el chucho ramirez hablar en contacto deportivo ayer, creo que deberian poner al chucho y olvidarze de hugo y lavolpe.

oyeron como hablo este hombre? hablo como un campeon! no solo porque lo es y lo logro, pero porq tiene la mentalidad de ganar y se le OYE.

JC

[Ese_Guy]

I saw the interview.
I honestly think he should be the next NT coach . . . after WC06 though.
LaVolpe and the team already have some sort of chemistry going.

[San Oswaldo]

Im A Man Of Few Words So Simply: ***k Hugo Sanchez

[aguilas]

Im A Man Of Few Words So Simply: ***k Hugo Sanchez
He might be Chivas' new coach so you better rethink that.

[Wordsmyth]

I might be unaware of some issues regarding the Sanchez-Lavolpe controversy but most of the media in South America treats it as if it's a Mexican-Non Mexican problem. After seeing some statements by Sanchez, I have a hard time believing nationalism doesn't have something to do with it.