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Laury84

11-27-2006, 08:36 PM

As far as the 2nd paragraph, I could even agree (in terms) with you...

As far as the 1st, just found out you know absolutely nothing of football :lol: ...

Babe: you forgot the two last times Brazil and Argentina played?
4 x 1 ans 3 x 0!

In the first game, Adriano scored the 3rd goal after almost 3 minutes of ball possession in favour of Brazil...

In the second, Kaká scored against them a goal exactly like Maradona's against England in 86!...

You sound like a Chinese to me speaking of football! :ronaldo: ...
:lol: do u support Brazil even if he loses?I support Italy even if we lose.I support Argentina over Brazil even if loses.

and I probably know more things about football than u honey!coz if u say that the WCC is the most important cup in the world u don't really understand nothing about football.

And I still think that Argentina knows what is a team.Brazil doesn't.
The persons that don't agree with u are all persons the don't understand nothing about football?!?!:lol:

kingkong

11-27-2006, 09:13 PM

:lol: do u support Brazil even if he loses?I support Italy even if we lose.I support Argentina over Brazil even if loses.

and I probably know more things about football than u honey!coz if u say that the WCC is the most important cup in the world u don't really understand nothing about football.

And I still think that Argentina knows what is a team.Brazil doesn't.
The persons that don't agree with u are all persons the don't understand nothing about football?!?!:lol:

PITHAGORAS' THEOREM:

The World is the World (the whole)...

Europe and SA are simply parts of that whole...

The WCC deals with the whole World...

European CL and South American Libertadores just deal with parts of that whole...

So = WCC more important...

Maybe you know more football than me; my Geography, however, is waaay better! ;) ...

Laury84

11-27-2006, 09:28 PM

PITHAGORAS' THEOREM:

The World is the World (the whole)...

Europe and SA are simply parts of that whole...

The WCC deals with the whole World...

European CL and South American Libertadores just deal with parts of that whole...

So = WCC more important...

Maybe you know more football than me; my Geography, however, is waaay better! ;) ...
all right!I don't mind!
oh...Pithagoras...:lol: :lol:

maybe u are better even in history!

kramellio

11-27-2006, 09:53 PM

from now till 2010 WE ARE THE WORLD CHAMPIONS not u honey!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's my girl!!!!:star: :star: :star: :star:
Don't forget, just because Brazil has five stars, 2002 is seriously in question and Brazil has not been head and shoulders above the rest since 1970!

Chloe

11-27-2006, 09:58 PM

I hate Ronaldo.I would like to see him dead.

OMG that is such a hateful thing to say.

Chloe

11-27-2006, 10:00 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's my girl!!!!:star: :star: :star: :star:
Don't forget, just because Brazil has five stars, 2002 is seriously in question and Brazil has not been head and shoulders above the rest since 1970!

Your girl? And did not Brazil win the World Cup in 1994 and 2002? Hmmmm see ya!

Laury84

11-27-2006, 10:00 PM

OMG that is such a hateful thing to say.
yeah...I'm not serious serious..but he has hurted me.

kramellio

11-27-2006, 10:15 PM

Your girl? And did not Brazil win the World Cup in 1994 and 2002? Hmmmm see ya!

Douche pont sock Puppie!!!!

kingkong

11-27-2006, 10:33 PM

And I still think that Argentina knows what is a team.
Brazil doesn't.
:lol:

Yeah, I agree.

After that 4 x 1 (2005), Argentina finally got to know "what is a team"
(they already knew though, since Maradona's times: they simply refused to concede it...)

How about that as far as..."team work"?...

[Almost 2 minutes of ball possession, 21 uninterrupted passes, and...Adriano's 4th goal!...]:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjDOE2C0-yI

Very much like Brazil's 4th goal against Italy in 1970 (35 years ago, same play, same score: as far as "team work", doesn't that suggest to you even a historical trend?!)...:

Still downloading: wait before answering (want you savouring each second of those 2 marvels)

OK, there you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkR5Wb2KQs

The persons that don't agree with u are all persons the don't understand nothing about football?!?!:lol:

I love when people disagree with what I say, but one has to disagree supported by concrete arguments, and not just throw to the wind irresponsable statements:

"Brazil doesn't know what's a team, Argentina does..." :smoking:

[Pithagoras was a philosopher and mathematician, not a historian, and Adriano is your emperor] :D

kramellio

11-27-2006, 10:43 PM

Yeah, I agree.

After that 4 x 1, Argentina finally got to know "what is a team"
(they already knew though, since Maradona's times: they simply refused to concede it...)

How about that as far as..."team work"?...

[Almost 3 minutes of ball possession, 21 uninterrupted passes, and...Adriano's 4th goal!...]

Very much like Brazil's 4th goal against Italy in 1970 (same score!)...:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjDOE2C0-yI

Compare to Brazil's 4th goal in 1970:

Still downloading: wait before answering (want you savouring each second of those 2 marvels)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkR5Wb2KQs

Try as you will but your ego has taken too many salvos from the prophet of truth. You are done but you just have not CONCEDED it yet. Live in yesteryear where your ego can be warmed by the images of a bygone era. I would rather live in the present and smell the fresh coffee of Victory!:star: :star: :star: :star:

kingkong

11-27-2006, 10:54 PM

Careful not to choke!...

The coffee you consume in Italy usually comes from...Brazil!

:scared: :ranger:

kramellio

11-27-2006, 10:57 PM

Careful not to choke!...

The coffee you consume in Italy comes from...Brazil!

:scared: :ranger:
I could care less because I don't drink coffee or any other cafinated drinks!

Fenerliyim

11-28-2006, 01:32 AM

Laury84

11-28-2006, 06:31 AM

Ur saying i act like an american, huh? Maybe its cause i've actually lived here for my whole life.

Anyways, just cause something has world in it doesnt make it the best in the world. If u compare the world to europe, the only other continent which can even come close to Europe is S.America. All those other continents havent dont anything to do this day, so "the world" hasnt accomplished anything.
u'r right.

benfica64

11-28-2006, 06:35 AM

I could care less because I don't drink coffee or any other cafinated drinks!

Still jealous!!

:star: :star: :star: :star: :star:

kramellio

11-28-2006, 11:49 AM

Still jealous!!

Grow up!

kingkong

11-28-2006, 04:03 PM

Ur saying i act like an american, huh? Maybe its cause i've actually lived here for my whole life.

Anyways, just cause something has world in it doesn't make it the best in the world. If u compare the world to europe, the only other continent which can even come close to Europe is S.America. All those other continents havent don't anything to do this day, so "the world" hasn't accomplished anything.

Fener,

I didn't even know that you lived in US...
(if I ever knew it, I don't remember)

But, if there is one who might want to "come close" to us, that one is you, bud!...

What have you "accomplished"?...

We are 1st in the ranking, have more WCs - Brazil 5 x 4 Italy -, more WCCs (24 x 21); besides we gently run with the head up and the ball in the feet & not like wild bulls :ronaldo: ...

So you gotta respect what you pretensiously see as "the rest of the world", which is much bigger than you - & (see above) has "accomplished" more...

"Rest of the world" is Europe, bud...

By the way, your country - Turkey - is considered part of the "rest of the world" by the vast majority of the non-Muslim European countries...

Maybe if you had lived most of your life in Europe, you'd have felt that more harshly...

To them you are as "3rd world" as any Brazil, Argentina or Ivory Coast: don't join who is discriminating you, bud - COME TO THE (WINNING) SIDE!!!...:Peace:

Laury84

11-28-2006, 05:07 PM

kingkong

11-28-2006, 06:18 PM

1.u cant hav 24 WCCs,I think that u'r talking about the Intercontinental cup that is something different.
2.don't say shits about me that in my opinion turkey or Brazil or whatever other nation is "3rd world" coz u'r totally wrong.

1.ICCs, WCCs is all a matter of terminology: one was, and the other is, the top club's tournament in the world (the WCC is no more than an expanded ICC) - the total sum is 24 x 21 PERIOD.

2. I didn't say you personally tag Turkey as "3rd World", but the vast majority of Europeans do, and you know that!...

("edited" you again, but fixed it!...)

Laury84

11-28-2006, 06:33 PM

1.The Intercontintal Cup is a thing and the WCC is another thing.One thing is a match between the CL's winner and the C.Liber.'s winner and the other is make a cup with team that doesn't even know what football is.I used to love the IC and I'm very proud of the two that my team has won.

2.Maybe the majority,but NOT ME!

kingkong

11-28-2006, 07:18 PM

Laury84/ Fener,

TAKE A LOOK AT THE REST OF THE WORLD "ACCOMPLISHING" A LITTLE MORE:

(Today, Japan):

Brazil 3 x 0 Italy, in 2006 World Man's Volleyball Championship's Quarterfinal

(The Italian Man's Volleyball Team is the pride of Italian sport...

- even more than the Soccer NT)

(pictures are mine):

1. END OF SECOND SET TODAY:
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9233/braxitavley006jk5.jpg

2. THIRD AND DECISIVE SET ON ITS WAY:
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5831/braxitavley007ax8.jpg

3. BRAZILIAN SPIKE HITS THE FLOOR:
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1671/braxitavley009rd7.jpg

4. 20 X 14:
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/8408/braxitavley008ci8.jpg

5. 21 X 15:
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/516/braxitavley011eo5.jpg

6. 22 X 15:
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9047/braxitavley013gg0.jpg

7. ANOTHER BRAZILIAN SPIKE EXPLODES ON ITALIAN FLOOR:
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5206/braxitavley014fm9.jpg

8. 24 X 19 - MATCH POINT:
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2199/braxitavley015zo3.jpg

9. PREY AT MERCY!...
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2032/braxitavley018sg5.jpg

10. ROOTERS IN DELIRIUM ANTICIPATE:
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7280/braxitavley019pz4.jpg

11. MISERICORDY BLOW:
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2783/braxitavley020yi7.jpg

12. DONE!...
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/610/braxitavley021lp3.jpg

12. DISCREET COMMEMORATION NOT TO HUMILIATE THE ADVERSARY:
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/3646/braxitavley022eq1.jpg

SEE YOU IN TOKIO, BARÇA!!! :ronaldo: ...

Laury84

11-28-2006, 07:22 PM

f*** off kk!!I'm ungry 4 that match!!!Please...
And we're talking about football honey!!and if u hate Italy,ur f******* volleyball players should stay away from our teams of the A1.thx!

kingkong

11-28-2006, 07:38 PM

I used to love the IC and I'm very proud of the two that my team has won
WOW!

At last an earnest & fidedign Italian disallowing Normbar's idea that Europeans "don't give a monkeys" to the ICCs...

(or WCCs - it's all the same; what really matters, besides the "I" or the "W", are the "CC"s :ronaldo: ...)

kingkong

11-28-2006, 07:45 PM

f*** off kk!!I'm ungry 4 that match!!!Please...
And we're talking about football honey!!and if u hate Italy,ur f******* volleyball players should stay away from our teams of the A1.thx!

How could we hate Italy, honey? Your country gifted us with greatest joys of our entire lives!...

And...there is nothing prettier than a mad Italian girl! :heart: ...

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/2626/18435384ge3.jpg

Laury84

11-28-2006, 08:12 PM

WOW!

At last an earnest & fidedign Italian disallowing Normbar's idea that Europeans "don't give a monkeys" the ICCs...

(or WCCs - it's all the same; what really matters, besides the "I" or the "W", are the "CC"s :ronaldo: ...)
I told u that the IC was great in my opinion,coz it was a match between the 2 strongest clubs in the world.But now the WCC is ridiculous.

kingkong

11-28-2006, 08:47 PM

Tomorrow (Wed, Nov 29, 2:00 P.M. - Japan time):

Brazil x Bulgaria (only team that hasn't lost yet in the 2006 Volley Man's WC)...

See what happens...

Laury84

11-28-2006, 08:51 PM

I will see only Italy France...again...omg in all the sports!

kingkong

11-28-2006, 09:00 PM

I told u that the IC was great in my opinion,coz it was a match between the 2 strongest clubs in the world.But now the WCC is ridiculous.

But "the 2 strongest clubs in the world" are still there, Laura!...

I know you Europeans get insecure when face SAs, but feeling insecure towards Asian or Oceanian clubs? :lol: ...

Besides, I think it is a lot more democratic to give a chance to the other continents too, even if they, as you say, "know nothing about football"...

Remember (though) Korea eliminated Italy from 1966 WC in England...

What's the problem, if the "2 strongest" will meet anyway in the final?....

Besides, let them learn a little...

Laury84

11-28-2006, 09:07 PM

But "the 2 strongest clubs in the world" are still there, Laura!...

I know you Europeans get insecure when face SAs, but feeling insecure towards Asian or Oceanian clubs? :lol: ...

Besides, I think it is a lot more democratic to give a chance to the other continents too, even if they, as you say, "know nothing about football"...

Remember (though) Korea eliminated Italy from 1966 WC in England...

What's the problem, if the "2 strongest" will meet anyway in the final?....

Besides, let them learn a little...
I don't know if in S.America the leagues are still on in this period.But do u know what does it means 4 a team that has to play in the CL and in his league,play I don't know how many games against teams that....are...what?!?!One thing is a match,another thing is a lot of matches.

kingkong

11-28-2006, 09:07 PM

I will see only Italy France...again...omg in all the sports!

O babe,

Soo sweet!...

Promise won't be mean to you anymore!...

Cutie :heart: !..

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/2324/18435384ge3st1.jpg

kingkong

11-28-2006, 09:16 PM

I don't know if in S.America the leagues are still on in this period.But do u know what does it means 4 a team that has to play in the CL and in his league,play I don't know how many games against teams that....are...what?!?!One thing is a match,another thing is a lot of matches.

In SA clubs regularly play games with less than 72 hs interval: that's no excuse!...

The SulAmericana and the Brazilian/Argentinian/SA Championships are still on their way, and we arrive to a WCC as busy as you (no reason, however, if you are an athlete, to feel "tired" or "unmotivated")...

That's "talk to make turtles sleep"...

Life is simply...like that!

Laury84

11-28-2006, 09:19 PM

btw I don't mind of the WCC,maybe if the next year my team will play the WCC I'll watch it,but right now I don't give a f*** about that!

kingkong

11-28-2006, 09:25 PM

btw I don't mind of the WCC,maybe if the next year my team will play the WCC I'll watch it,but right now I don't give a f*** about that!

Think I'll start rooting for Inter Milano also!...

FORZA INTER!
FORZA AZZURRI!:star: :star: :star: :star: CAMPIONI DEL MONDO!!

kingkong

11-28-2006, 09:29 PM

Will you please tell me what are you gonna be doing in Dublin next month??? :mad2: ...

nachi88

11-28-2006, 09:44 PM

KK

Europe still leads 17-2 in Olypics Football tournament. I am sure the final of that football match has more viewership than the WCC tournament.
I havent heard you comment on a century of South American failures at the Olympics.

Fenerliyim

11-28-2006, 10:16 PM

kramaghetti

11-28-2006, 10:22 PM

Has this become a volleyball forum? Laury, don't mind him. He has that low budget Brazilian humor which is not very humorous at all. Just like Kennedy's low budget charm that screams of: " I am above being put in my place because I have some insane idea that I am automatically better than you by some unwritten birthright!"

kramaghetti

11-28-2006, 10:31 PM

Besides, let them learn a little...
Brazilians have not learned much since after 1970. So, I say, humble yourself and learn a little! Hopefully you learned from the 2006 WC that the image of Brazil is not enough to win you the cup!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

normthebarman

11-29-2006, 01:38 AM

WOW!

At last an earnest & fidedign Italian disallowing Normbar's idea that Europeans "don't give a monkeys" to the ICCs...

(or WCCs - it's all the same; what really matters, besides the "I" or the "W", are the "CC"s :ronaldo: ...)

As we say KingKong, one swallow does not a summer make.

Just as you hold firm to your belief about your comment that Europeans view Turkey as a third world country just because Laury does not, I also hold firm to my belief that Europeans dont give a monkeys about the WCC just because you think Laury does. And as Laury pointed out, she doesn't give a monkeys about the WCC. It's the IC she cares about. You may not notice the difference in the IC or WCC but we do.

To say that whether there's an I or a W doesn't matter, it's the C that matters, is nonsense. It's like saying the SPL (Scottish Premier League) is the same as the EPL (English Premier League)!!! I mean, we all know that the SPL is vastly superior.......;) :D

(And incidentally, I disagree completely with your view that the rest of Europe looks down on Turkey as a 3rd world country...)

kingkong

11-29-2006, 02:13 AM

olympics are bigger than the WCC

Absolutely correct.

But: careful not "to confuse the ass with the trousers"!
(that's a good one too, Norm! :lol:...)

From top to bottom, if we are to agree that it's all a matter of hierarchy:

A. As far as nations are concerned, the top world competitions are (and, in my opinion, have to be):

1. The Olympics, since it's the one that deal with all sports

2. The World Cups

3. The Continental Cups (Euro Cup, Copa América, African Cup, Asian Cup, etc)

B. As far as clubs are concerned, the top world competitions are (and, in my opinion, have to be):

1. The World Championships (ICCs, in the past; WCC, present & future)

2. The Continental Championships (CL, Libertadores, etc)

3. The National Championships (Premiership, J-League, Brazilian, Norwegian, Nigerian etc)

Of course, Olympics in general is in a superior sphere if compared to WCCs or even to WCs: as it was said, it deals with all sports...

Not all sports though take the Olympics as the most important competition, since, for their degree of professionalism, they are not allowed there - and consequently cannot - or don't want to - display their main teams & individual players...

Examples: pro football, basketball, rugby, tennis, baseball (?), etc, for which the most important are their own Federation's World Cups, Grand Slams, Leagues etc

The Olympics is the oldest, most encompassing and most genuinely European competition of all: it was invented and established itself by traditionally rich countries from the Old World whose financial conditions were good enough for their athletes to practice their favourite sports without any lucrative ends, just "for the sport's sake" - summing up, perfectly within the Baron of Coubertin's olympic amateur spirit...

Something unthinkable for the poor countries of Africa, Asia, or Latin America of those times...

No surprise then if Europe had way "more" football gold medals in the Olympics than Third World countries...

Don't you think so, Nachi?...

In my opinion, it's absolutely unfair to compare European's achievements to LA's in such a traditionally exclusive competition...

As far as Europeans considering their competitions more important than the others', and vice-versa, with SAs considering more the Lib's Cup than the CL, or Africans and Asians "not giving a monkeys" to both (learned the expression with great Normthebarman), those are all cultural distortions that don't resist a less impassionate analysis...

What's important is the ball rolling within those 4 magic white lines...

"SEE YOU IN TOKYO NEXT DECEMBER, BARÇA!" FIRMED: THE WORLD!...

kingkong

11-29-2006, 02:29 AM

May i just ask, y da hell would anyone want to watch volleyball. Its a bore. I mean i can understand beach volleyball with the girls but just normal volleyball is horrible. Thats y it probably never caught on with americans.

Wouldn't that be a cultural distortion too, Fener? Maybe you don't like it, because - I might be wrong - it's never been a popular sport in Turkey...

However, along with football and basketball, volleyball is among the 3 most popular ball sports on Earth...

By the way, the sport was invented in the States, which, in the 70s, had the most powerful volleyball of the world (Karch Kiraly is even universally considered as the Pelé of the sport)...

kingkong

11-29-2006, 03:01 AM

Europe still leads 17-2 in Olypics Football tournament. I am sure the final of that football match has more viewership than the WCC tournament.

Nachi,

"I am sure"...
I'm sure you'll agree "I am sure" is vague! :lol: ...

"That football match"
Which one???...

Fenerliyim

11-29-2006, 03:13 AM

Wouldn't that be a cultural distortion too, Fener? Maybe you don't like it, because - I might be wrong - it's never been a popular sport in Turkey...

However, along with football and basketball, volleyball is among the 3 most popular ball sports on Earth...

By the way, the sport was invented in the States, which, in the 70s, had the most powerful volleyball of the world (Karch Kiraly is even universally considered as the Pelé of the sport)...

Yep ur wrong about not being popular in Turkey cause its one of the biggest, they show the competitions all the time. But in America its not. Its only popular in High school with the girls.

And u know y its so popular with the rest, cause its cheap and the rest can afford to play it. Just like how baseball is becoming quite popular though i really find it horrible.

American football and hockey are quite fun to play, its just that the rest of the world cant afford it.

kingkong

11-29-2006, 03:13 AM

Besides, Nachi:

The Olympics started in Greece, in VIII th BC...

The WCC started in the Western World, in 1960...

Of course, the Olympics historically has to be more prestigious; furthermore, encompasses all sports (and, because of that, a greater variety of countries)...

In that sense, it's way more popular than the CL too, or the EuroCup :sad: ...

Not being fair, bud...:redeyes:

kingkong

11-29-2006, 03:19 AM

However, along with football and basketball, volleyball is among the 3 most popular ball sports on Earth...

Any comments, Fenerlyim?...

Besides - based on what you said about volleyball in Turkey - I'm glad to learn people there have more imagination and openness towards sports than in US...

Fenerliyim

11-29-2006, 03:21 AM

Read the last 2 paragraphs in my post

Mr.Ka

11-29-2006, 05:04 AM

Kingkong,
Give it up. You are done. Concede it and let it go. Your beloved Brazil is not the center of the world!:lol: :lol:

kingkong

11-29-2006, 05:15 AM

Looks like there are no more defeatless teams in the 2006 Man's World Volleyball Championship in Japan :lol: ...

Hour of truth...
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7861/braxbulvlei013jv6.jpg

Awkward hand-shake, no? :mad2: ...
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3553/braxbulvlei016if9.jpg

Brazil 3 x 1 Bulgaria in cold numbers :smoking:...
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7246/braxbulvlei029wx7.jpg

Vipaman

11-29-2006, 05:40 AM

AUSTRALIA?!?!?!? :lol: u call it soccer so u'll never be great! :lol:

ya ya ya :p .... but we played well in this World Cup!! There's still too many ignorant fans out this way though, and it needs to change for us to get better, but sadly I don't think it will because other sports dominate.

Vipaman

11-29-2006, 05:47 AM

If you are so much better, why don't you just go there and WIN!?...

Well this one is easy...not enough money for Euro clubs maybe? I don't get it though, you're the biggest instigator in this thread with regards to superiority. My psych 100 class tells me that sometimes that sort of attitude arises from inferiority complex?

No offenses intended.

kingkong

11-29-2006, 05:47 AM

Yep ur wrong about not being popular in Turkey cause its one of the biggest, they show the competitions all the time. But in America its not. Its only popular in High school with the girls.

I'm sure you have nothing against girls...

You seem though to get along quite well with the patriarchal American way of thinking, which sees women as eternal adolescents and disdains their preferences in sports.

I mean i can understand beach volleyball with the girls but just normal volleyball is horrible. Thats y it probably never caught on with americans.

Yeah, in the beach it's OK cuzz you can see those luscious thighs, huh "smartso"?! :evil: ...

Funny this vision of volleyball as "a girl's sport"...

Because it's precisely in US that football is seen as a "woman's thing"...

normal volleyball is horrible

Notwithstanding billions of masochists play and watch that "horrible" thing only because it's an unexpensive sport?...

P.S.:As far as being a cheap sport, though, it's more expensive than soccer, that doesn't need a net to be played (two oranges will do it for the goals, another orange for the ball, and that's it)...

normthebarman

11-29-2006, 05:54 AM

Oranges!?!? You don't even need that.

In some of our public parks it's a large pile of dog sh*t for one and used condom for another....;) :D

kingkong

11-29-2006, 05:59 AM

Well this one is easy...not enough money for Euro clubs maybe? I don't get it though, you're the biggest instigator in this thread with regards to superiority. My psych 100 class tells me that sometimes that sort of attitude arises from inferiority complex?

No offenses intended.

Won't perhaps the "inferiority complex" come from you, instead, who saw a club from "tiny" New Zealand to classify for the WCC, but none from your "big" Australian continent? :lol: ...

So you want money...: go to work Barça!...

(Piece of advice: no pooping in the trousers, please, when you see a team in red in Japan - its name? Internacional de Porto Alegre, the 2006 Champion of Libertadores de America Cup...)

No offenses intended - either.

Vipaman

11-29-2006, 06:02 AM

Wow, that was a quick response. Do you monitor this thread all day long?

Won't perhaps the "inferiority complex" come from you, instead, who saw a club from "tiny" New Zealand to classify for the WCC, but none from your "big" Australian continent? :lol: ...

I didn't even realize that, go figure...

So you want money...: go to work Barça!...

(Piece of advice: no pooping in the trousers, please, when you see a team in red in Japan - its name? Internacional de Porto Alegre, the 2006 Champion of Libertadores de America Cup...)

No offenses intended - either.

Ok good, none taken. I don't want money in this context by the way, though I will admit that I want money, but my point was that even in Australia with limited soccer or futebol ;) coverage we know that the European clubs don't care about the WCC because of money and schedule. Why is it hard to understand, unless you're just provoking fun at the Europeans?

kingkong

11-29-2006, 06:06 AM

Oranges!?!? You don't even need that.

In some of our public parks it's a large pile of dog sh*t for one and used condom for another....

Grosss!!!...
:Puke:

Laury84

11-29-2006, 06:12 AM

Will you please tell me what are you gonna be doing in Dublin next month??? :mad2: ...
omg I'm going there 4 a journey...I don't know what's so strange..I'll go there 4 the New Year..

Laury84

11-29-2006, 06:13 AM

o nachi got u there, olympics are bigger than the WCC.

May i just ask, y da hell would anyone want to watch volleyball. Its a bore. I mean i can understand beach volleyball with the girls but just normal volleyball is horrible. Thats y it probably never caught on with americans.
HORRIBLE?!?!?no Fener it's my fav sport after football...it's great!!And even Italy is great...We've got the best league...:lol:

Laury84

11-29-2006, 06:16 AM

As we say KingKong, one swallow does not a summer make.

Just as you hold firm to your belief about your comment that Europeans view Turkey as a third world country just because Laury does not, I also hold firm to my belief that Europeans dont give a monkeys about the WCC just because you think Laury does. And as Laury pointed out, she doesn't give a monkeys about the WCC. It's the IC she cares about. You may not notice the difference in the IC or WCC but we do.

To say that whether there's an I or a W doesn't matter, it's the C that matters, is nonsense. It's like saying the SPL (Scottish Premier League) is the same as the EPL (English Premier League)!!! I mean, we all know that the SPL is vastly superior.......;) :D

(And incidentally, I disagree completely with your view that the rest of Europe looks down on Turkey as a 3rd world country...)
yeas norm...I know that the SPL is better!!! :lol:

Laury84

11-29-2006, 06:18 AM

Yep ur wrong about not being popular in Turkey cause its one of the biggest, they show the competitions all the time. But in America its not. Its only popular in High school with the girls.

And u know y its so popular with the rest, cause its cheap and the rest can afford to play it. Just like how baseball is becoming quite popular though i really find it horrible.

American football and hockey are quite fun to play, its just that the rest of the world cant afford it.
American football is only s***

Laury84

11-29-2006, 06:21 AM

ya ya ya :p .... but we played well in this World Cup!! There's still too many ignorant fans out this way though, and it needs to change for us to get better, but sadly I don't think it will because other sports dominate.
I know that u played excellent..I'm just joking coz I really don't like the word soccer.u've got very talented players.I really love Bresciano.

Vipaman

11-29-2006, 06:29 AM

I know that u played excellent..I'm just joking coz I really don't like the word soccer.u've got very talented players.I really love Bresciano.

Ok sorry, I will try to say football from now on although it's hard because we call our team the socceroo's :) Bresciano is great isn't he!! We love him and Palermo fans do too!!

kingkong

11-29-2006, 06:31 AM

omg I'm going there 4 a journey...I don't know what's so strange..I'll go there 4 the New Year..

OK, ;) then you can go ...

Laury84

11-29-2006, 06:51 AM

OK, ;) then you can go ...
all right! thanks dad!

Laury84

11-29-2006, 06:51 AM

Ok sorry, I will try to say football from now on although it's hard because we call our team the socceroo's :) Bresciano is great isn't he!! We love him and Palermo fans do too!!
yeah bresciano is great...u've got some excellent players..

Vipaman

11-29-2006, 07:11 AM

yeah bresciano is great...u've got some excellent players..

My favorite is Kewell, but Bresciano is close behind!

Laury84

11-29-2006, 03:16 PM

My favorite is Kewell, but Bresciano is close behind!
Yeah even Kewell is great..the only one that I really don't like is ur GK Kalac!

Fenerliyim

11-29-2006, 04:14 PM

HORRIBLE?!?!?no Fener it's my fav sport after football...it's great!!And even Italy is great...We've got the best league...:lol:

thats cause ur a girl, its a girl sport.

American football is only s***

Rigght, u keep thinking that, y dont u try playing it.

Fenerliyim

11-29-2006, 04:16 PM

Wow, that was a quick response. Do you monitor this thread all day long?

I didn't even realize that, go figure...

Ok good, none taken. I don't want money in this context by the way, though I will admit that I want money, but my point was that even in Australia with limited soccer or futebol ;) coverage we know that the European clubs don't care about the WCC because of money and schedule. Why is it hard to understand, unless you're just provoking fun at the Europeans?

KK has just found something which he can use for his S.America vs. Europe argument and is upset that we dont take that competition seriously cause that just weakens his argument.

kingkong

11-29-2006, 05:00 PM

kingkong

11-29-2006, 05:00 PM

kingkong

11-29-2006, 05:00 PM

Laura,

A FEW FRAGMENTS OF FENER'S VISION ON VOLLEYBALL:

(VOLLEYBALL) HORRIBLE?!?!? no Fener it's my fav sport after football...it's great!! And even Italy is great...We've got the best league...:lol:

thats cause ur a girl, its a girl sport.

in America(...)its only popular in High school with the girls.

Fener,

I'm sure you have nothing against girls...

You seem though to get along quite well with the patriarchal American way of thinking, which sees women as eternal adolescents and disdains their preferences in sports.

I mean i can understand beach volleyball with the girls but just normal volleyball is horrible. Thats y it probably never caught on with americans.

Yeah, in the beach it's OK cuzz you can see all those luscious thighs, huh "smartso"?! :evil: ...

Funny this vision of volleyball as "a girl's sport" though...

Because it's precisely in US that football is seen as a "woman's thing"...

So volleyball as a prestigious sport is in good company in the US, and you should also consider football as "girlish" sport......

normal volleyball is horrible (...) And u know y its so popular with the rest, cause its cheap and the rest can afford to play it.

Notwithstanding, billions of masochists play and watch that "horrible" thing only because it's an unexpensive sport?...

P.S.:As far as being a cheap sport, though, it's more expensive than soccer, that doesn't need a net to be played (two oranges will do it for the goals, another orange for the ball, and that's it)...

And Normthebarman closes the coffin:

Oranges!?!? You don't even need that.

In some of our public parks it's a large pile of dog sh*t for one and used condom for another....;) :D

Fenerliyim

11-29-2006, 05:39 PM

hey kk u cant fight the truth, it is wat it is

kingkong

11-29-2006, 05:43 PM

And incidentally, I disagree completely with your view that the rest of Europe looks down on Turkey as a 3rd world country...

That one you lost, Norm:

Read carefully the whole thread in which this post can be found:

THREAD: Turkey must not join the EU!

Turks in Turkey, you should not want to desire to join a club full of chauvinistic, racist, christians. They don't want you in, not due to any real reason other than your religion and the size of your country( economy is not valid because Turkey's economy is much more powerful and larger than Poland's, the largest new member and economic growth results in 6% a year). You all know of your glorious Turkic ancestry, why do you want to illusion yourself with ideas of Europeanism. It's true that we may have quite a bit of European genes in us, but we originated from Central Asia( as did most of the Germanic peoples and slavs, but we kicked their asses out lol) so that is where our culture lies, and we managed to preserve our culture much more than the early Europeans did who settled down unlike us nomads. We're genetically hybridized with mongoloids and so we don't match most of the EU's peoples( ok maybe Hungary) and the bastards will not hesitate to point this out when they run out of excuses.

Why do you want to be in a Union with bureaucrats dictating your policy in Brussels? Should your country lose its great military might? Should the heroic Turkish troops pull out of Cyprus and stop protecting the Turkish Cypriot community and lose a valuable strategic position? Should we raitfy the treaty of Sevres, an outrageous proposal made by a far-right French MP. That would give us Turks kapadokya, and give Kurds, Greeks, and Armenians land within the Anadolu, and give Italians, French and British colonies( what an openly imperialistic proposal, I would break off all diplomatic ties with the EU if they made such a suggestion to me). Should we give in to these foreigners trying to break up the Turkish motherland? Should Kurds be allowed to terrorize our country then make us seem as aggressors and force us to make concessions to them? Should Armenians with their tall tale of genocide and strong lobbies be allowed to taunt us even more and make us accept their false ploys( I would never want to consent to pro-Nazis and Anti-Semites like Armenians)? Should we enter the EU( if by miracle) and be blamed for the economic regression and high inflation rate?

The answer is NONONONONONO!

The best solution is special partnership( would bring us some economic benefits). It would be good to have Switzerland's status, but we should turn to Turan and Central Asia and think about creating our own union. The Turan economic and politicial unionm, which would be fronted by us, the mother nation.

Take a look now at another thread of this Forum:

THREAD: http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/images/icons/icon13.gif Is European Soccer Racist???

Europe has no right to bash Turkey (though admittedly they have done wrong) when the obviuos racist Arian behavior leads them. This is not just a Turkish issue but an issue that is and will eat the european soccer community as well as the social community from the inside out. If you can not face the fact that the mojority of Europe is led by racists (Blatter and the likes) you are all in for a serious awakening.

We have seen much much worse things happen in european stadiums (anyone remember Roma v Galatasaray a few years ago when Turkish players were beaten, on tape in front of millions and Roma got a 1 game away penalty that was later dropped.) Ofcourse no one will want to admit that there is racism in such FINE establishments like FIFA, UEFA or the EU. Dream on Europe, some day you will wake up and wish things had been treated much differently.

People make judgements even at the highest levels based on prejudice and racism. There are many that know what happened during that game (TURKEY v SWISS) and the penalty is not near what the books call for. A penalty is ofcourse expected, even a heavy one, but not this type of punishment that has no basis. I ask you all to look into previous punishmenst and look at what REALLY happened in Istanbul. You will find a huge discrepency.:mad2: :mad2:

First of all Turkey is not a European country, so they should have never been playing Switzerland in a WC Qualifier in the first place.

And, just take a look at the MEMBERS COUNTRIES thread :evil: ...

C'mon, Norm, do you insist? :lol: ...

Laury84

11-29-2006, 05:44 PM

all right.

1.me trying 2 play ur football?no thanks,it's a men sport!and it's only a "bad rugby"..u should watch a rugby match...it's better!

2.a girlish sport volleyball?!?!no...it's a sport 4 men and 4 women.and it's a great sport.but f*** off we're out!I support Brazil in the semifinal.

3.I don't remember why we started to talk about volleyball! :lol:

Fenerliyim

11-29-2006, 06:05 PM

1. Rugby is horrible, its just a disorganized american football.

2. Yes it is

3. kk brought up

Laury84

11-29-2006, 06:14 PM

1. :lol: disorganized?!u should watch the 6 nations...

2.No it isn't

3. thx

kingkong

11-29-2006, 06:36 PM

1. Fenerlyiym's dream is to be accepted someday as an American in America and get a Social Security Loan :lol: ...

2. "Volleyball?!?! No...it's a sport 4 men and 4 women. And it's a great sport..." Great Laura!

3. You're wellcome, Laury...
(5 x 1, 5 x 4, & 3 x 0; do those numbers say anything to you?) :ronaldo: ...

Laury84

11-29-2006, 06:46 PM

What they should say to me?I really don't know...mmm...maybe I can understand the 5 x 4...

Fenerliyim

11-29-2006, 06:47 PM

yes but it is played predominatly by women, and its a girl sport.

Laury84

11-29-2006, 07:11 PM

I don't think so...maybe in the US,but not in the rest of the world!

kingkong

11-29-2006, 07:14 PM

yes but it is played predominatly by women, and its a girl sport.

Tell that, in person, to the Bulgarian 1 of the picture:

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4074/72974d753c7vs2.jpg

...and not behind a PC screen! :lol: ...

Laury84

11-29-2006, 07:21 PM

:lol:

kingkong

11-29-2006, 07:29 PM

Or to Karch Kiraly, the best Volleyball player of all times: an AMERICAN, Fener...

AN AMERICAN...!

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/3948/karchkiraly2e3a4dbpp8.jpg

You live there, and you don't know it! :sad: ...

kingkong

11-29-2006, 07:37 PM

Learn a bit about one of the main sports of the country you chose to live in:

KARCH KIRALY AND THE US OLYMPIC TEAM:
http://images.beijing-2008.org/66/94/Img212019466.jpg
DOES THAT LOOK A BUNCH OF GIRLS TO YOU???...

Volleyball legend and three-time Gold Medalist, Karch Kiraly is synonymous with the sport of Pro Volleyball. Clearly the 'winningest' player in the history of the sport, Karch has earned more than three million dollars playing volleyball and has become one of the most recognized sports figures today.

At age 45, Kiraly is considered the "Michael Jordan" of pro volleyball as he is the oldest player to compete in the sport and continues to perform at the highest level --- beating competitors literally half his age. He has won at least one tournament in 24 of the 27 seasons he has played, spanning four different decades. He has claimed a title in 24 different states with 13 different partners. In domestic events, he has finished lower than ninth place only four times and has been in the semifinals over 80% of the time.

Kiraly and partner Mike Lambert were named 2004 AVP Team of the Year after capturing three titles, then won in Huntington in 2005 to give him win number 148. Kiraly finished the 2005 season ranked fourth on the Tour in both kills (1,243) and digs (805).

Kiraly is the only volleyball player in Olympic history to win three Gold medals, having been part of the United States' Gold Medal indoor teams in 1984 and 1988, and winning the Gold Medal in beach volleyball at the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games with Kent Steffes.

In 1992, Kiraly was inducted into the UCLA Hall of Fame and had his jersey retired after an All-American volleyball career with the Bruins. While in school, he led his team to three NCAA Championships (1979, 1981 and 1982) and earned All-American honors all four years. In his four years, the Bruins compiled a 123-5 match record, with undefeated seasons in both 1979 and 1982.

Kiraly grew up in Santa Barbara and learned volleyball from his father, Dr. Laszlo Kiraly. He graduated from high school third in his class with a 3.96 grade-point average.

Throughout his career, Kiraly has earned countless accolades including: AVP Best Defensive Player (2002), AVP Best Offensive Player (1990, 1993, 1994), AVP Comeback Player of the Year (1997), AVP Most Valuable Player (1990, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1998), AVP Sportsman of the Year (1995, 1997, 1998) and most recently AVP Outstanding Achievement (2004). The FIVB has named Kiraly "Best Player in the World" twice, in 1986 and 1988. He was inducted into the 2005 AVCA Hall of Fame Class.

Kiraly currently resides in San Clemente, California with his wife Janna and his two sons Kristian and Kory.

ARE YOU KIDDING, FENER?...

After that, start singing the "Stars Spangled Banner", "BUD"! :usa2: ...

kingkong

11-29-2006, 08:01 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol: ...I'm gonna!... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ...gonna!... :lol: :lol: :lol: ...crack up!... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I'm...I'm...I'm...:lol: :lol: :lol:...getting... :lol: :lol: :lol: ...really... :lol: :lol: :lol: histericaaaaal! :lol: :lol: :lol: ...

Laury84

11-29-2006, 09:01 PM

let's go back to the original discussion.Europe is better than S.America! :lol:

Laury84

11-29-2006, 09:02 PM

kingkong

11-29-2006, 09:12 PM

omg honey...do u need some help?

Wow! Only you to calm me down! Thanks, Laury!...
Yeah: :focus: : S. America is better than Europe! :ronaldo: ...

Laury84

11-29-2006, 09:19 PM

:lol: whenever u want!! ;)

s.america is better than europe?all right...what do u think about rugby? :lol:

Fenerliyim

11-29-2006, 10:28 PM

it doesnt matter, if guys play it or not, i said its dominated by women though. More girls than boys play. In most high schools there is a girls volleyball team but no boys.

Laury84

11-29-2006, 10:35 PM

it doesnt matter, if guys play it or not, i said its dominated by women though. More girls than boys play. In most high schools there is a girls volleyball team but no boys.
Yeah maybe...BUT U'RE TALKING ABOUT THE US!!!Maybe in the US it's a girlish sport,but not in the rest of the world!!!u should look out of the US a little bit...

football123

11-29-2006, 10:47 PM

it doesnt matter, if guys play it or not, i said its dominated by women though. More girls than boys play. In most high schools there is a girls volleyball team but no boys.

i cant believe your ignorance really.. first of all volleyball is REAL FUN, i was very good at blocking and ok at spikes. man most of the volleyball players are REALLY buff compared to many sports. it develops your shoulders,arms and legs quite a lot.

and people spiking balls i dont know whats girlish about that really..

and yes soccer is better than volleyball...but volleyball is fun as hell.

football123

11-29-2006, 10:50 PM

And just wanna say that soccer players look almost like girls in terms of muscle compared to volleyball players.. and dont get me wrong i love soccer.

kingkong

11-29-2006, 11:08 PM

:lol: whenever u want!! ;)

s.america is better than europe?all right...what do u think about rugby? :lol:

Don't know about rugby...

But Am Foot?...

Nor girlish nor manlike!...

Most likely "in between": man grabbing man in those tight coloured trousers, others picking an oval "ball" from within the quarterback pelvis*, while he gives his back to them & still offers them a little tiny towel for wiping their hands, piles of men on top of each other...

The audience shouting "go" "go" "go" while they keep "coming" "coming" "coming"...

And this thing of "touching...down", I don't know...

Hmmm: at least suspicious! :ronaldo: ...

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/25/257148.jpg

* (Sorry, it's the quarterback that grabs the oval ball between his companion legs, but's all the same, ain't it, even the tiny little towel appears well in the picture)...

Fenerliyim

11-29-2006, 11:40 PM

i cant believe your ignorance really.. first of all volleyball is REAL FUN, i was very good at blocking and ok at spikes. man most of the volleyball players are REALLY buff compared to many sports. it develops your shoulders,arms and legs quite a lot.

and people spiking balls i dont know whats girlish about that really..

and yes soccer is better than volleyball...but volleyball is fun as hell.

i have never said it was boring to play. It gets quite competitive when we played it in Gym Class. I just said i cant believe anyone actually watches it.

Fenerliyim

11-29-2006, 11:40 PM

And just wanna say that soccer players look almost like girls in terms of muscle compared to volleyball players.. and dont get me wrong i love soccer.

soccer players dont need big muscles, they need speed and agility, when ur real buff u tend to slow down quite a bit

Fenerliyim

11-29-2006, 11:43 PM

Yeah maybe...BUT U'RE TALKING ABOUT THE US!!!Maybe in the US it's a girlish sport,but not in the rest of the world!!!u should look out of the US a little bit...

Ahem, r we not the world super power. We own at everything.

lol i just had to say that.

Panathinaikos2

11-30-2006, 12:11 AM

Ahem, r we not the world super power. We own at everything.Typical American mentality :rolleyes:

kramazzi

11-30-2006, 01:23 AM

Yes, Fener, I have to say that you are one of the mods that I have liked the most lately but in this day and age I would not go around bragging about that. We, the U.S. are not well liked around the world. We have to be carefull about bragging about those things. There are a lot of people that have a direct interest in making sure that our superpower status is "revoked".

Laury84

11-30-2006, 05:08 AM

Ahem, r we not the world super power. We own at everything.

lol i just had to say that.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

u own?!?!?! :lol: :lol: u're really funny Fener!!

Laury84

11-30-2006, 05:09 AM

Don't know about rugby...

But Am Foot?...

Nor girlish nor manlike!...

Most likely "in between": man grabbing man in those tight coloured trousers, others picking an oval "ball" from within the quarterback pelvis*, while he gives his back to them & still offers them a little tiny towel for wiping their hands, piles of men on top of each other...

The audience shouting "go" "go" "go" while they keep "coming" "coming" "coming"...

And this thing of "touching...down", I don't know...

Hmmm: at least suspicious! :ronaldo: ...

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/25/257148.jpg

* (Sorry, it's the quarterback that grabs the oval ball between his companion legs, but's all the same, ain't it, even the tiny little towel appears well in the picture)...
I really really hate american football and I think that Rugby is so much better...u have to watch it...less violence...

tdr

11-30-2006, 05:17 AM

I really really hate american football and I think that Rugby is so much better...u have to watch it...less violence...
it depends how you define violence i personally think football players are sissies

nachi88

11-30-2006, 08:00 AM

Volleyball? American Football? Where am I?

KK, post a current South America 11.We can do this for all time too, but I dont think any of the European supporters here have seen many games from the 60's and 70's. I will post a corresponding Europe 11. Then we can compare the two, player for player, and strategy wise.

dexboii

11-30-2006, 08:32 AM

Europe: Heart of football.

correction! england: heart of football
end of.

kingkong

11-30-2006, 12:11 PM

Europe: Heart of football.

correction! england: heart of football
end of

100%!...

But Brazil feet & head :lol: of football

kiss in the

:heart:

kingkong

11-30-2006, 12:55 PM

Volleyball? American Football? Where am I?

Just a little digression, Nachi: but you're right, back to topic!...

KK, post a current South America 11.We can do this for all time too, but I dont think any of the European supporters here have seen many games from the 60's and 70's. I will post a corresponding Europe 11. Then we can compare the two, player for player, and strategy wise.

Nachi,

Deal!...

SA current 11: São Paulo F. C.

Laury84

11-30-2006, 03:56 PM

correction! england: heart of football
end of.
:lol: :lol:
Europe : heart of football
Italy : heart of football

Laury84

11-30-2006, 03:56 PM

yeah back to topic!!!!

Laury84

11-30-2006, 03:57 PM

it depends how you define violence i personally think football players are sissies

:lol: :lol: sissies?!?!?! all right...I really don't like that sport!

Port Wine

11-30-2006, 06:25 PM

This thread has 41 pages of posts.
:faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2:

Laury84

11-30-2006, 08:37 PM

This thread has 41 pages of posts.
:faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2:
yeah...41...u're speachless...:lol:

Port Wine

11-30-2006, 09:00 PM

yeah...41...u're speachless...:lol:

Not really speechless. It's more like this: :jaw:

Laury84

11-30-2006, 09:15 PM

Not really speechless. It's more like this: :jaw:
:lol: and why u're like that? :lol:
too many pages? :lol:

kingkong

12-01-2006, 01:20 AM

2 truths: i love laury (independently of the stupidities she says) and...

Brazil!!!:

Forever mine, yours, ours (and hers),...

PENTACAMPEÃO!!!...
PENTACAMPEÃO!!!...
PENTACAMPEÃO!!!...

:Peace:

Yeah, I'm drunk. So what?!!!...

tdr

12-01-2006, 01:39 AM

:lol: :lol: sissies?!?!?! all right...I really don't like that sport!
i beat up a 300 pound lineman he didn't even throw a punch :lol:

football (real football) players are much tougher (at least the european ones)

Panathinaikos2

12-01-2006, 02:06 AM

i beat up a 300 pound lineman he didn't even throw a punch :lol:

football (real football) players are much tougher (at least the european ones)I agree. American football is just a bunch of people running around with pads and armour etc..

Laury84

12-01-2006, 06:33 AM

all right...so I think that only the americans like that horrible sport..:lol:

Fenerliyim

12-01-2006, 05:58 PM

the british play it as well, and some universities in turkey are starting to make teams as well.

U guys are just being close minded. Whenever u cant beat us at a sport u just call it stupid. :lol:

Laury84

12-01-2006, 06:12 PM

the british play it as well, and some universities in turkey are starting to make teams as well.

U guys are just being close minded. Whenever u cant beat us at a sport u just call it stupid. :lol:
Oh yeah...it's the most popular sport in Britain!! :lol:
and as u said: USA,Canada,(turkey?),(britain?)....wow...a lot of coutries!!!
That shows to u how much is beautiful this sport!

I don't mind if u can beat us in ur football coz I think that NOBODY in Italy plays that sport...so who do u beat?!NOBODY?!?! :lol:

Fenerliyim

12-01-2006, 06:15 PM

we cant do anything about other countires being too pussy to play it.

Laury84

12-01-2006, 06:21 PM

:lol: wow...that's typical 4 the americans...

kingkong

12-01-2006, 07:12 PM

I myself sometimes catch me making fun of Am Foot, but just to tease Fener and all that traditional & pointless "American"* bragging :lol: ...

Americans used to brag more though before Gagarin and Vietnam, or before "unprobable" sports countries - Brazil (Indianapolis PanAm Games) and USSR (Rome Olympics) - ended their basketball dinasty in the world...

Their chin (although many won't concede, like Fenerlyiym, who not even a real American is, but strives to be), their chin is progressively lowering: beautiful to see it...

Because of that, nowadays, even playing with their Dream Teams, they've been losing the last Olympics basketball gold to nations like Croatia and Argentina :ronaldo: ...

However, I think that any sport can be great if you are into it and you are able to play it well (even Am Foot, golf, cricket or baseball, which we in our case tend to dislike simply because they are not part of our sports tradition).

Am Foot however, although is a bit ridiculous (with those piles of men one on top of the other), can be be very exciting indeed (has lots of great tactics and moves)...

What must be humiliating to them however is that the world (and how they love that word!) doesn't give a monkeys about those so 2 cherrished girls of their eyes: Am Foot and Baseball...

Worse: they have to concede (although reluctantly) that real football, which they despectively call soccer - & even basketball and volleyball (either man's or women's) - are way - but WAY! - more popular than them in the planet...

_______________________________________________________________
* Putting "American" into quotation marks 'cuzz not even the word that expresses their nationality is for real: the word America designates not only 1 but 3 continents: North, Central and South...

Besides, the 1st time the word America appeared in a map in History (early XVIth century) was on a map of South America, more specifically in the region where could already be found at that time a country named...Brazil!

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1276/1507waldseemuller2l2688ul7.jpg

Click in the link below so you can have a larger version (use the arrows): & there you can see the word America for the 1st in History inserted in a map - and placed exactly in the middle of South America, more precisely...Brazil!

http://www.gulfbase.org/exploration/1507Waldseemuller_2l.jpg

Take a look also at the Library of Congress link, from which that image was taken, and where all I'm saying can be confirmed:

http://www.loc.gov/today/pr/2001/01-093.html

They didn't only rob Mexico - Texas, California, New Mexico, Florida, Arizona, Colorado - their lands: even the name of their country is a theft...

And our Fener is proud of "what"?...

Laury84

12-01-2006, 07:20 PM

I myself sometimes catch me making fun of Am Foot, but just to tease Fener and all that traditional & pointless American bragging :lol: ...

Used to brag more though before Gagarin and Vietnam, or before unprobable countries Brazil (Indianapolis PanAm Games) and USSR (Rome Olympics) ended their basketball dinasty in the world...

Their head (although they don't concede) is progressively lowering: beautiful to see it...

Because of that, nowadays, even playing with their Dream Teams, they've losing in the last Olympics gold to teams like Croatia and Argentina :ronaldo: ...

However, I think that any sport can be great if you are into it and you can play it well (even Am Foot, golf, cricket or baseball, which in our case we Brazilians tend to dislike simply because they are not part of our sports tradition).

Am Foot however, although is a bit ridiculous (with those piles of men one on top of the other), can be be very exciting (has lots of great tactics and moves)...

What must be humiliating to them however is that the world (and how they love that word!) doesn't give a monkeys about those so 2 cherrished girls of their eyes: American Football and Baseball...

Worse: they have to concede (although reluctantly) that real football, which they despectively call soccer - & even basketball and volleyball (either man's or women's) - are way - but WAY! - more popular in the planet...
and even the name...how can a country outside the US play a sport that is called "AMERICAN FOOTBALL"???I'd never play a sport that is american 4 definition...:lol:
and I really don't know why they don't call their football with another name and the real football not soccer but football....omg...too many football!!:lol:

kingkong

12-01-2006, 08:12 PM

One interesting thing to see too is how Europe at the time was so much "bigger" than America - and placed in the CENTER of the world......

http://www.loc.gov/today/pr/images/middlemap.jpg

America by then was only a narrow strip of land...

And probably that's STILL the map of the world most Europeans in this Forum have in their heads, when they fill their chest with their Euro, CLs and UEFA's cups :lol: ...

They still think they are they are the bigger and are in the center of the world...

Is that also why the World Clubs Championship is "not important" for them? :boo: ...

[SOMETIMES "THINKING BIG" JUST REVEALS NARROWMINDEDNESS :sad: ...]

Fenerliyim

12-01-2006, 10:04 PM

kingkong

12-01-2006, 11:12 PM

haha looool, we took land, u wiped out 3 of the biggest civilizations on earth when u went there. The incas, Mayans, and the Aztecs.

I suggest u read an account much abbreviated of the destruction of the indies bartolome de las casas

Never been to high school, man?!...

Who wiped those civilizations were the Spanish, "Old Worlders" just like you!...

Besides you (Fenerliyim) didn't "take" any land at all - you lost one: your Turkey - that very soon - if you don't stop George W. Bush - is going to be wiped out from the Earth map by US atomic threats :ronaldo: ...

Besides you keep confusing Mexico (N.America) with Brazil (S. America) - Brazil had never ancient Indian civilizations within its fronteers...

You are the "Aztech" here! ;) ...

Fenerliyim

12-01-2006, 11:16 PM

kingkong

12-01-2006, 11:43 PM

Dont tell me u brazilians think ur actually pure decendents of those tribes.

The Portuguese/Spanish they all settled their, u guys are just Europeans.

OMG which would then mean u got ur skill from europeans.

Nor "descendants of tribes" (not those, at least), nor Europeans...

Both.

Add the Africans - and a little formula I won't teach you because it's innate and cannot be "learned" (one's just born with it, and scientists call it "talent") - shake it well, and you'll have the best football of the planet! ;) ...

As far as football, Europeans only invented the rules...

WE INVENTED...THE GAME! :ronaldo: ...

So we (Europeans) are the best.

"We"?...

I was absolutely sure you were "american" and an American Football "deffensive tackler" for the Pennsylvania Pandas...

AMRK

12-02-2006, 12:12 AM

kingkong

12-02-2006, 05:01 AM

and even the name...how can a country outside the US play a sport that is called "AMERICAN FOOTBALL"???I'd never play a sport that is american 4 definition...:lol:
and I really don't know why they don't call their football with another name and the real football not soccer but football....omg...too many football!!

To what Kram responds:

You are so full of Brazilian shit! I don't follow American football myself, but nonetheless, your sad thread is just another example of your Brazilian shit!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Laury,

This guy seems to see me everywhere; even in your posts...

Poor! Got crazy!...

You know, he could even sue SFN for brain damage (and i'd have an important participation in that mental disaster)!

I'm worried with him...:crazy:

Could anybody tell me: is it Parkinson or Alzheimer???...

Panathinaikos2

12-02-2006, 05:22 AM

Panathinaikos2

12-02-2006, 05:28 AM

This argument is useless. Europe and South America are the best football continents in the world and that is that. Whats the need to compare?

Laury84

12-02-2006, 06:55 AM

Dont tell me u brazilians think u r actually pure decendents of those tribes. The Portuguese/Spanish they all settled their, u guys are just Europeans.

OMG which would then mean u got ur skill from europeans. So we are the best.

Bush can not take Turkey even if he tried. And Bush's aim is not turkey, its iran.
even the americans are just europeans....

Laury84

12-02-2006, 06:57 AM

To what Kram responds:

Laury,

This guy seems to see me everywhere; even in your posts...

Poor! Got crazy!...

You know, he could even sue SFN for brain damage (and i'd have an important participation in that mental disaster)!

I'm worried with him...:crazy:

Could anybody tell me: is it Parkinson or Alzheimer???...
I think that maybe he loves u....;)

kingkong

12-02-2006, 01:38 PM

I think that maybe he loves u....;)

No, no no, Laury!!!...
:hurt:
I promise I forget about Brazil, South America, Flamengo, WCC, will root forever for Inter Milano, but, don't, don't do that to meee!...

Laury84

12-02-2006, 02:19 PM

No, no no, Laury!!!...
:hurt:
I promise I forget about Brazil, South America, Flamengo, WCC, will root forever for Inter Milano, but, don't, don't do that to meee!...
I'm sorry Kingkong...but u know that what is done is done....

and the reality is that he loves u....:lol:

Chileno

12-02-2006, 04:44 PM

what the hell is going on in this thread...:lol:

kingkong

12-02-2006, 11:11 PM

what the hell is going on in this thread...:lol:

OK Chileno, Kram is all yours! :D ...

kingkong

12-02-2006, 11:25 PM

I'm sorry Kingkong...but u know that what is done is done....

and the reality is that he loves u....:lol:

"Done"? No-no-no-no!......

:nono: ...

Not me :ronaldo: !!!...

Heard though, when posts to Fener, Kram stays like that:

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

Chileno

12-02-2006, 11:42 PM

:bolt:

Laury84

12-03-2006, 07:49 AM

"Done"? No-no-no-no!......

:nono: ...

Not me :ronaldo: !!!...

Heard though, when posts to Fener, Kram stays like that:

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:
Fener is the past,U ARE THE FUTURE!!!!!! :lol: :lol:

btw :focus: or chileno will probably die. :)

kingkong

12-03-2006, 06:49 PM

Fener is the past,U ARE THE FUTURE!!!!!! :lol: :lol:

btw :focus: or chileno will probably die. :)

Ok, back to topic (I know it's volley, but's still "Europe vs S. America" - and the situation is special):

BRAZIL 2006 MAN'S VOLLEYBALL WORLD BI-CHAMPION IN JAPAN
(where is Thierry?)

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/2865/placarfinal108oj4.jpg
Best team of the world (3 x 0 on defeatless Poland, last set: 25 x 12 :ronaldo: ...)

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/2245/placarfinal115pw5.jpg
Giba, Best Player of the Planet Award...

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7918/placarfinal113qm9.jpg
What are you looking at? :lol: ...

Now, the WCC in Tokio (READY BARÇA?)...

Laury84

12-03-2006, 06:58 PM

all right...we should talk about how much Kram loves u....:hug:
:lol: :lol:

Port Wine

12-03-2006, 07:57 PM

:lol: and why u're like that? :lol:
too many pages? :lol:

More than 41 pages and still no conclusions. ;)

Laury84

12-03-2006, 08:53 PM

More than 41 pages and still no conclusions. ;)
Yeah...I've got a conclusion.EUROPE IS BETTER!!!!!!;)

Port Wine

12-03-2006, 09:48 PM

Yeah...I've got a conclusion.EUROPE IS BETTER!!!!!!;)

Well, I guess I can't argue with that. ;)

A fine display from the "old" continent and mother countries. :D

Laury84

12-03-2006, 10:07 PM

We're of course better than anyone in everything,not only in football.;)

kingkong

12-04-2006, 01:05 AM

We're of course better than anyone in everything,not only in football.;)

Yeah,

Even "in queers" :lol: !...

:flypig:

CONGRATULAZIONNI!...

:ronaldo:

Laury84

12-04-2006, 05:53 AM

Yeah,

Even "in queers" :lol: !...

:flypig:

CONGRATULAZIONNI!...

:ronaldo:
Honey...congratulazioNi...only 1 N. :)

kingkong

12-04-2006, 11:10 AM

Honey...congratulazioNi...only 1 N. :)

"Honey":

(sigh)!...
Loved that!

:heart: ...

Only 1 N? OK!:

"Krigh-ah-bandolo,
Me, King Kog"!... :Party:

(ain't that sweet?)

kingkong

12-04-2006, 11:26 AM

As far as you calling me "honey" you can use as many "n"s as you wish OK?...:love:

Laury84

12-04-2006, 12:48 PM

As far as you calling me "honey" you can use as many "n"s as you wish OK?...:love:
:lol: all right....HONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEY! :lol: ;)

kingkong

12-04-2006, 02:10 PM

:lol: all right....HONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEY! :lol: ;)

:faint2: :heart: :faint2: :heart: :faint2: :heart: :faint2: :heart: :faint2: :heart: :faint2: :heart: :faint2:

And :Party: = BraziliaNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNs...

The Bessst!...

:couch: ...

Laury84

12-04-2006, 02:12 PM

:faint2: :heart: :faint2: :heart: :faint2: :heart: :faint2: :heart: :faint2: :heart: :faint2: :heart: :faint2:

And :Party: = BraziliaNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNs...

The Bessst!...

:couch: ...
no honey...ITALIANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNS ARE THE BEST! :lol:

kingkong

12-04-2006, 02:30 PM

all right....HONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEY!

That's heavennn!... :angel:

Happinnness to the Nth potency!...

But Brazil is 5... :first:

:couch: = 1st in the rankinnng!...

& Italy just 4... :second:

:mad2:

Will need a lot of effort to at least tie us :lol: ...

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!:croc: ...

Laury84

12-04-2006, 02:49 PM

mmm...NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNO!
innnnnnnnn 2010 we'll hav 5 cups like u!! :)
and from nnnnnnnnow unnnnnnnntil 2010....WE ARE THE WORLD CAMPIONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNS!

Fenerliyim

12-04-2006, 03:20 PM

another hijacked thread :(

Laury84

12-04-2006, 03:25 PM

no fener...we're talkiang about who is better between S.America and Europe...what's ur opinion about that?

Fenerliyim

12-04-2006, 03:33 PM

ofcourse Europe. I have been trying to get into KKs head for the past month but he wont listen

Laury84

12-04-2006, 03:36 PM

all right...nice to know that...EUROPE IS BETTER...but it's normal that a brazilian thinks that s.america is better...:)

kingkong

12-04-2006, 03:39 PM

ofcourse Europe. I have been trying to get into KKs head for the past month but he wont listen

If that means I have to agree with you, why didn't you tell me?!...

OK, folks!...

Hear me well: EUROPE IS BETTER! :ronaldo: ...

Good enough for you? Happy? Glad for you! :Party: ...

Snake

12-04-2006, 03:41 PM

;) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ;)

Laury84

12-04-2006, 03:45 PM

If that means I have to agree with you, why didn't you tell me?!...

OK, folks!...

Hear me well: EUROPE IS BETTER! :ronaldo: ...

Good enough for you? Happy? Glad for you! :Party: ...
all right...u should tell me:

1.If we're talking about the league or the nts or the players

2.The reasons why do u think that S.america is better.

honey....;)

Snake

12-04-2006, 03:51 PM

The natianal teams are better, the players are better, but the eurpean leagues are better cause their full of south americans

Laury84

12-04-2006, 03:56 PM

The natianal teams are better, the players are better, but the eurpean leagues are better cause their full of south americans
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

the european leagues are better coz they are full of EUROPEANS and they hav EUROPEANS coach.

Snake

12-04-2006, 04:41 PM

No cause they have $$$$$

kingkong

12-04-2006, 04:44 PM

all right...u should tell me:

1.If we're talking about the league or the nts or the players

2.The reasons why do u think that S.america is better.

honey....;)

C'mon Laury:

If there is somebody that when states something in this Forum, states it totally backed with (solid) argumentation, that someone - with a few honorable European exceptions & sorry for my frankness - is me!...

And not only that: it's solid argumentation that invariably takes in consideration opposite opinions, as I always do towards yours, Fener's or anybody else's in this Forum! - and you are the ones who don't listen, and just keep repeating like parrots: Europe is better! Europe is better!, as if that would solve your problems!..

You're last post to Leo07 is a perfect example:

the european leagues are better coz they are full of EUROPEANS and they hav EUROPEANS coach

On the other hand, even when I'm just kidding, like in my last post to you, the arguments are there: for instance, Brazil 5 x 4 Italy in 76 years of brilliantly won World Cups - in my opinion, and, although you will deny, in your opinion too! - is WAY more important than a "last WC" (a temporary 4-year condition), won mediocherly in PKs...

That's so much true (and I keep reasoning, as always) that you've just won a WC, and were not even able to salvage a 2nd place in the world rankings!...

Why? Simply because (among a number of other reasons), right after that "epic conquest", in the very first game of the Euro Cup the glorious Italian champs lost to Albania (or Letonia)...

On the other hand, Brazil has always maintained itself on the top of the ranking for decades and decades, even when eventually losing WCs - right after the Cup, on its turn, Brazil crushed Argentina in Sweden 3 x 0 and in the sequence kept beating European teams in the next 3 games - and that's what determines the dominance of South America in the sport (with the precious help of Argentina and Uruguay): not only the unmatchable brilliance of its game, but the consistency with which it maintains itself on the top - sorry if that hurts your European pride...

As far as your "leagues issue", the thread's theme is "Europe vs S. America", and way more determinant to establish who is ahead are real, actual, concrete results, and not debatable considerations about "who has the best league"...

If you historically have the best leagues (and, because of that, accordingly to you, the best football) why don't you have - NT & clubwise - better records than us?...

Oh, because football is unpredictabe? If it were to consider a 4-year span I'd be the 1st to agree with you...

But...76 years???...

That blatant truth has been put forth by me since I entered this Forum in March 2005 - and it has never been contested (shall I assume there are no arguments against it?)!...

And I'm the one who won't listen! :lol: ...

C'mon Fener, tell us all what you want "to put in my head"!...

Tell us that secret never revealed to SFN before!...

Laury84

12-04-2006, 05:00 PM

kingkong

12-04-2006, 06:03 PM

are u saying that I didn't tell u the reason why I think that the WCC sucks?cmon...u should read all this 45 pages...

1.did u remember the WC that u won against us at the PKs?I do...coz Baggio's ball arrived in Milano...(:lol:)

2.u know better than me that the FIFA rankings are ridiculous...coz before the WC USA was better than Itlay..and please don't say that they're better than us!

3.u should know,but if u don't I'll tell u,that those match agains Lit and France were in sept when the Serie A wasn't started,and the players were not at their top-form.

4.I know that Brazil is the best nt in the world...u won 5 cups...congrats!!And it doesn't hurt me...coz my team is the best in europe.

5.Yeah we've got the best league,and ur players come to Europe coz they LIKE our football.u should ask them why.

And now don't say that I don't give solid argumentations.thanks.

At last, you started producing real honey! :ronaldo: ...

1. The WCC "sucks" to you because you keep losing to SA teams all the time, and that just exposes the weakness of your "powerhouses" :lol: and "famous" leagues; if you won, you'd be throwing it in our faces!...

2. We won a WC in PKs, but won other 4 in normal time (& the score was Brazil [SA] 14 x 4 Europe); you won 3 in normal time (and the score was Italy [EU] 0 x 0 S. America, since you just faced Euros)

That means:

In the finals we became champions we scored 14 goals against you; in the finals you became champions you never scored a miserable goal against us!...

You never had the pleasure to score against SA in a final and cry "we are the Champs"! :ronaldo: ...

3. Do you know why Baggio's ball flew to Milano? Simply because of TRADITION: the best Italian player of history...trembled when he saw Taffarel's yellow-green jersey in front of him! :D (certainly had in his mind that 4 x 1 in Mexico's 1970 WC)...

4. Who mentioned FIFA's rankings? Brazil is N.1 in any world ranking!...

5. On top form or not, no World Champions are allowed to lose an official game to...Lituania!

6. Brazil is the best nt in the world...it doesn't hurt me...my team is the best in europe.

Again the parrotlike "Europe is best" talk again!..."Even better than the world"! OOO-WOW!...

7. ur players come to Europe coz they LIKE our football.u should ask them why

What they like in your football is MONEY - if money were in Afghanistan, not even Europeans would "like" to play in Europe! :sad: ...

At last - it's true - we got some "argumentation" from you!...

Not too solid though, I guess! :boo: ...

Laury84

12-04-2006, 06:15 PM

kingkong

12-04-2006, 07:45 PM

omg I'm really angry now. :mad2:

1.Tell me when my TEAM lost a WCC against ur team.We played 2 IC (i told u before that in my opinion they are 2 different things) and won 2 IC.I speak only about my team.stop.And I don't give a f*** about the others.But when I saw Boca winning over Milan I was the happiest person in the world.

2.so in ur opinion my cups are less important than urs?

3.of the 1970 WC the only thing that I remember is the match Italia vs West Germany 4-3.and u know...u don't hav a match like that in ur f******* history.

4.coz the FIFA ranking is the most important?!?!and please explain to me why USA is better than Italy if u know so many things.

5.We never lost against Lituania.

6.tell me where I wrote in that post that Europe is better.thx.

7.no honey,it's not ONLY 4 the money...and u know that!!

not too solid?f*** off.

Laury,

Don't try to run:

1. I said:

"(...) The WCC "sucks" to you because you keep losing to SA teams all the time, and that just exposes the weakness of your "powerhouses" :lol: and "famous" leagues"

To what you responded:

Tell me when my TEAM lost a WCC against ur team

The conversation was not around "your team" - Inter, I already know - but about European teams in general vs SA's in WCCs... Not about Inter x The World, understood? (you are really sweet though as a fanatic Inter rooter!) ;) ...

2. You said:

Brazil is the best nt in the world...u won 5 cups...congrats!!And it doesn't hurt me...coz my team is the best in europe

Again: nobody was speaking of "our" cups [in SA] vs "your" cups[in EU], but of World Cups and Euro Cups, and of course WCs are extremely more important than Euro Cups - don't you think so?

3. You said;

Italia vs West Germany 4-3...u don't hav a match like that in ur f******* history.

Now you're "bullshitting", Laury!...

Can cite several to you:

Brazil 6 x 1 Spain (1950 WC), Brazil 7 x Czechs 0 (1950 WC), Brazil 6 x 5 Poland (1954 WC), Brazil 5 x 2 France (1958 WC), Brazil 5 x 2 Sweden (1958 WC final), Brazil 2 x 1 Spain (1962 WC), Brazil 3 x 0 England (1962 WC), Brazil 4 Czechs 1 (1970 WC), Brazil 1 x 0 England (1970 WC), Brazil 3 x 1 Uruguay (1970 WC), Brazil 4 x 1 Italy (1970 WC final), Brazil 3 x 1 Argentina (1974 WC), Brazil 3 x 1 Italy dispute 3rd place (1978 WC), Brazil 3 x 1 Argentina [Maradona playing] (1982 WC), Brazil 2 x 0 Russia (!994 WC), Brazil 3 x 2 Holland (1994 WC), Brazil 1 x 0 Holland (1998 WC), Brazil 2 x 1 England (2002 WC), Brazil 2 x Germany 0 (2002 WC final), and many and many others...

4. the FIFA ranking is the most important?!?!and please explain to me why USA is better than Italy if u know so many things.

Once more you're conveniently trying to make things confuse: never said FIFa's was the most important ranking; I said " Brazil is 1st in any ranking"; neither I said USA was better than Italy (did you drink, babe? and didn't offer me a cup? :mad2: )...

5. We never lost against Lituania.

You had said before:

u should know,but if u don't I'll tell u,that those match agains Lit and France were in sept

So you didn't lose to Lituania, OK, maybe it was a tie (which is the same as a defeat); or you lost (or tied) to Liechenstein, which is even worse...

6. tell me where I wrote in that post that Europe is better

You said:

Brazil is the best nt in the world...it doesn't hurt me...my team is the best in europe.

You're obviously implying that if "your team is the best in Europe", my affirmation won't "hurt you" because in your opinion "being the best in Europe" is "better than being the best in the world"

Besides this thread is full of ridiculous affirmations you made that go like that:

the european leagues are better coz they are full of EUROPEANS and they hav EUROPEANS coach.

7. no honey,it's not ONLY 4 the money...and u know that!!

It hurts doesn't it? You wanted it to be real love, right?...

Maybe if you tell me though it's because of your beautiful eyes, then I will particularly believe! :heart: ...

We South Americans used to be so sentimental!...

Not anymore though!...

8. not too solid?f*** off

Was gonna post the picture of that pretty pretty pretty mad Italian girl again (don't want to abuse though); but, in that aspect, Laury, Brazilian women are a distant second to you!...

P.S.: Forgot to talk about Baggio's "trembling" legs in 94 :lol: ...

Laury84

12-04-2006, 08:04 PM

kingkong

12-04-2006, 08:44 PM

omg I know that I don't speak english very well,but f*** off,why u don't understand me?!it's not so difficult...if u understand italian I'll tell u that in italian or spanish...unfortunately I know only the word obrigado in portuguese...
btw

1.I TOLD U MORE ORE LESS 3 THOUSAND OF TIMES THAT I DON'T SPEAK ABOUT THE OTHER EUROPEAN CLUBS HONEY,I SPEAK ONLY ABOUT INTER WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE WCC COZ I REALLY DON'T GIVE A F*** ABOUT THE OTHER TEAMS.THAT'S ALL.SO STOP TELLING ME THAT THE SA TEAMS WIN EVERY F****** SINGLE WCC AGAINST "MY" TEAMS,COZ I DON'T CARE!!!

2.U didn't understand me,I was not talking about the SA cups vs the Euro cups.follow me:
Brazil = 5 cups
Italy= 4 cups
Germany= 3 cups
ur team is the best in the world and my team is the best in Europe.do u understand?????

3.I think that u hav never seen that match honey...NEVER...ask to Nachi...search something about that and then we can talk about that match.

4.I didn't say that u said that USA is better than Italy,but u love these ranking so much,so please explain to me the reason why in every f****** ranking before the WC USA was better than Italy.

5.Liechenstein?!?! :lol: :lol: u don't know so much about our games...

6.I hav never said that my team is the best of the world coz we're the best in Europe.so please u should read better.

7.cmon when u don't know what to say (coz u know that u're wrong) u start to say those things? yeah...it's 4 my beautiful eyes...

8.Why u're talking about women now??????

Well,

Putting US in front of Italy, obviously, more than an injustice, is probably some cheap and localized political provocation...

Rankings in other aspects though are fair: they have to consider not only present facts (Italy 2006 World Champion, what they evidently didn't consider), but also recently historical ones (in the last 4 WCs, Brazil was World Champion in 2, 2nd in 1, and 5th in another 1 [2006]); of course that weighs for Brazil still to be 1st in the ranking (in my biased opinion, with justice)...

But putting US in front of Italy can only be a stupid provocation...

Of course I know (don't i "know" everything? :ronaldo: ) that Italy x Germany in 1970 was probably the best game in History (if not, one of the best...)

But let's not fight!...I like you truly & think you're a genuine person.

Besides having excellent humour, you also display considerable knowledge of football, and it's great posting to people like that!...

Really great when you (I deserve) ironically say that "honey" to me!...

P.S.: Anyway (oh my God, it's going to start all over again! :lol: ), this year you did lose (or tied) against a country starting with "Lit", 'cuz you said:

u should know, but if u don't I'll tell u,that those match against Lit and France

[Da capo...]

Laury84

12-04-2006, 09:00 PM

kingkong

12-04-2006, 09:54 PM

All right....I'm happy that u know that US is NOT better than us (u know I read in some americans websites before the WC that US was better than us coz of the ranking)..
Nice to know that u think (and that u know) that Italy West Germany in 1970 was the best game in history.

Thanks,u're a genuine person too.and yeah...I can say that u know "something" about football (just joking).:lol: ;)
I don't wanna fight,I was angry only coz u didn't understand me.that's all.

P.S.Lit was Lituania,and yes that match ended 1 - 1.that sucks,but I told u why we didn't play well.

HONEY.....;)

Bella,

(I just melted now!...)

There is whole ocean separating SA from EU:
sending you a song which title is precisely 'Ocean", by
Brazilian singer & composer Djavan:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZpWLm-bMMY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZpWLm-bMMY)
Hope you like it...

Thnx for forgiving this grumpy Brazilian...

:Party: But...

Back to war again!!!...

:rant:

South-Ame-ri-ca-is-be-tt-er!!! ...

Panathinaikos2

12-04-2006, 10:28 PM

BellaSouth-Ame-ri-ca-is-be-tt-er!!! ...Only Brazil and Argentina are major powerhouses from South America while the rest are just decent.

kingkong

12-04-2006, 10:49 PM

Only Brazil and Argentina are major powerhouses from South America while the rest are just decent.

"Only"?...

"Only" the 2 together have 7 WCs (almost as much as the whole Europe, 9 titles)...

Besides, it's totally unjust to "forget" Uruguay (the "rest"?!), that conquered 2 hardly fought WC titles & 2 Olympic Golds, and brilliantly helped us to "tie" that match...

Remember, if Europe has 4 highly ranked WC nations, we, with at least half the number of nations, have 3 (with an expressive detail: all of them with at least 2 titles, so no one can say: "they won because were lucky")!...

On our turn - because we know football - we would never commit the injustice of tagging as merely "decent" fabulous Hungary (in the 50's) and Holland (in the 70's), which (along with the glorious Uruguayan "Celeste" of the 30's and 50's), without even winning a title, taught us all how to play football...

If Europe were "only" made out of "decent" Hungary and Holland, that fact by itself would already represent a serious threat to "the kings of football" (us, of course!) :ronaldo: ...

kingkong

12-04-2006, 11:20 PM

Only Brazil and Argentina

Remember, also, that, in Europe, if there are more countries, the average population of a nation is way lower than in SA (there is a great number of countries with 7, 5, 3, or even less millions of inhabitants): on the other hand, try to divide the population of Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Peru, Venezuela into independant countries, and see if SA wouldn't have a considerably bigger number of countries disputing with you the WCs!...

Only in Brazil - 200 million inhabitants - we would have at least 4 very strong "nations" in football (Rio, São Paulo, Minas and Rio Grande do Sul states, plus the considerable strength of the North and Northeastern regions that could easily form a 5th "stronghold")...

Easely, about 5 to 7 European "powerhouses" would have to give in their captive "seats" to SA countries in the World Cup! :lol: ...

We could easily have as much quality as quantitity in the WCs, if we had the same stratification of countries you have in Europe!...

So - way more than you imagine - you have to take seriously our quality as opposed to your quantity...

Laury84

12-05-2006, 05:49 AM

Bella,

(I just melted now!...)

There is whole ocean separating SA from EU:
sending you a song which title is precisely 'Ocean", by
Brazilian singer & composer Djavan:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZpWLm-bMMY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZpWLm-bMMY)
Hope you like it...

Thnx for forgiving this grumpy Brazilian...

:Party: But...

Back to war again!!!...

:rant:

South-Ame-ri-ca-is-be-tt-er!!! ...
;)
the song is great,I really like it.thx...and are u starting to speak italian?????
:) ;) :)

Laury84

12-05-2006, 05:54 AM

Remember, also, that, in Europe, if there are more countries, the average population of a nation is way lower than in SA (there is a great number of countries with 7, 5, 3, or even less millions of inhabitants): on the other hand, try to divide the population of Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Peru, Venezuela into independant countries, and see if SA wouldn't have a considerably bigger number of countries disputing with you the WCs!...

Only in Brazil - 200 million inhabitants - we would have at least 4 very strong "nations" in football (Rio, São Paulo, Minas and Rio Grande do Sul states, plus the considerable strength of the North and Northeastern regions that could easily form a 5th "stronghold")...

Easely, about 5 to 7 European "powerhouses" would have to give in their captive "seats" to SA countries in the World Cup! :lol: ...

We could easily have as much quality as quantitity in the WCs, if we had the same stratification of countries you have in Europe!...

So - way more than you imagine - you have to take seriously our quality as opposed to your quantity...
u can't tell this kind of things,coz u'll never know what will happen..btw

Brazil + Argentina = 7 WC

Italia + Germany = 7 WC

so...the south american best NT won the SAME NUMBER OF WC that the european best NT won.....u should get ur conclusion...:)

kingkong

12-05-2006, 01:11 PM

u can't tell this kind of things,coz u'll never know what will happen..btw

Brazil + Argentina = 7 WC

Italia + Germany = 7 WC

so...the south american best NT won the SAME NUMBER OF WC that the european best NT won.....u should get ur conclusion...:)
Yeah?

But we don't have teams that won a WC only once like England or France just because they comfortably played...at home!

The minimum SA countries won was 2 WCs...

Even Uruguay is better ranked than your glorious France & England, with 2 WCs :lol: ...

In the same way, Italy and Germany have that number of WCs (7) just cuz they won at least once at home (as far as all the Europeans, 4 WCs won at home), which is way easier, let's convene...

In the total just Italy and Germany played 4 WCs at home (!!!)...

Practically 1/4 of all WCs!...

European nations, of a total of 18 WCs, played 6 at home, 1/3 of all WCs!...

As if it were little, 11 WCs were held at the European continent, 60% of the whole competition!...

In South America, only 2 times (Uruguay 30, Argentina 78) WCs were played and won at home - & only 3 in the total were played in the SA continent...

As if it were little, in the specific cases of Italy (38), England (66), when you played at home, you scandalously ROBBED your guests (don't have shrieks, Laury, the whole soccer community knows that)...

As you see all the odds, advantages and briberies were in your favour, and you still say you're "tying" us?...

Even with that unsurmountable 5 x 4 advantadge to us?!...

In the last 50 years Europeans have been swimming, swimming, and invariably die at beach - and that's what will keep happening...

As you see, that "7 x 7" (or "9 x 9") tie with us is more of a mirage...

An European dream :ronaldo: ...
the european best NT
I know you're referring to number of titles, but the best European NTs were not Italy and Germany, and never won any WC...

Their names: Hungary and Holland (& they played a lot - but a lot - more football than you)...

They undoubtedly are the true representatives of the most sophisticated European school of any epoch: compared to which (Puskas, Cruyjff etc), Italians and Germans* look more like hillybilly jerks...

http://www.bakersnurseryllc.com/Hillybilly%20Son%20in%20Law.jpg

And it's not me who says that: ask any impartial European who understands a little bit of football...

* (with individual exceptions, of course, Fritz Walter, Beckenbauer, Breitner, Overath, for the "teutonic", and, in the Italian side, Rivera, Baggio, Baresi)

Laury84

12-05-2006, 02:33 PM

kingkong

12-06-2006, 12:09 AM

Know this kid?...

http://www.internacional.com.br/imagens/noticias/uniformemundia_lancamento_5.jpg

It's Alexandre Pato, 17 year-old Internacional de Porto Alegre new number 10, who is being prepared as a bad surprise to Ronaldinho's Barça in the 2006 WCC to start this December 13 in Japan...

So you see: you buy "all" the Brazilians, and Brazil still keeps coming with new geniuses...

To you who "consume" all: careful not to choke...

Await, Barça :evil: ...

P.S.: Published on FIFA's site:

FIFA Club World Cup (http://www.fifa.com/en/comp/index/0,2442,CWC2005,00.html?comp=CWC&year=2005)
Internacional set to unleash 'the Duck' in Japan
(REUTERS) 29 Nov 2006

South American champions Internacional have unearthed a 17-year-old prodigy they believe may steal the show in next month's FIFA Club World Cup. The player popularly known as Pato Alexandre - 'Alex the Duck' - made an extraordinary professional debut last Sunday away to Palmeiras which has already got the critics talking about another great Brazilian discovery.
The quietly-spoken teenager scored after 94 seconds with his first touch of the ball, set up two more - including one with a disconcerting dribble - and headed against the post in a hectic 57 minutes before being substituted with his team 4-0 ahead.
They went on to win 4-1.
"We had believed something like this would happen, he's a sight for sore eyes," said Internacional president Fernando Carvalho.
"But I didn't expect such a mature and natural approach. That's why he had such a great game."
Internacional, who won the South American Libertadores Cup in August, are seen as Barcelona's main challengers at next month's tournament in Japan.
The emergence of Alexandre - full name Alexandre Rodrigues da Silva - is a major boost for Inter, who will be trying to keep the trophy in South America after Sao Paulo's win last year.
The Porto Alegre-based club have seen several key players, including defender Bolivar, midfielder Tinga and striker Rafael Sobis, depart for Europe since their Libertadores win.
On leaving the club in August, Sobis said he believed Alexandre would be his natural successor.
With European clubs snapping up promising South American teenagers at an ever-younger age, Inter have taken extreme caution in nurturing Alexandre who hails from the town of Pato Branco - White Duck - in the southern state of Parana.
Alexandre was only allowed to make his debut after being given a new contract with a fivefold wage increase that keeps him at the club until the end of 2009.
Inter have also inserted a $20 million penalty clause for any foreign club which wants to sign him before then.
"Our caution with the Duck has been justified," said Carvalho. "He's an exceptional forward, phenomenal."
The club are also confident that instant success will not go to the player's head.
"He's an exceptional player and he's got his head in the right place," said team captain Fernandao.
(http://www.fifa.com/en/comp/index/0,2442,CWC2005,00.html?comp=CWC&year=2005)

[click on the text to access FIFA's site]

kingkong

12-06-2006, 12:14 AM

kingkong

12-06-2006, 12:51 AM

1.I totally agree with u: England and France are only s****!!! :lol:

2.so in ur opinion Italy didn't win NOTHING?!?!?!oh..or maybe u can remember WC82....ah....sweet memories...

3.u're showing that u don't like italian players only coz they are italians.I tell u some names...please think about them:
Meazza
Giacinto Facchetti
Sandro Mazzola
Valentino Mazzola
Baresi
Bergomi
Maldini
Oriali
Buffon
Pirlo
Totti
Zoff
Tardelli
Riva
Baggio
Zenga
Berti
Mancini
Zola
Boninsegna
Picchi
and I can go on...

4.are u saying that I don't understand nothing about football?!?!?!?!?!:mad2:

1. I wouldn't be that radical: they produced players individually way better than the Italians (UK: Stanley Matthews, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, George Best etc; France: Juste Fontaine, Raymond Kopa, Michel Platini, Zinedine Zidane etc)...

2. Never said that: Italy is the 2nd greatest winner of WCs - how could I possibly declare such a thing (putting words in my mouth)...

3. You just save there Meazza, S. Mazzola, Gigi Riva, Rivera Maldini, Baresi, Baggio, and that's it...

The rest are "hillybillies"...

As compared to Puskas or Cruyjff, of course: in the average, they were no more than good players......

Don't worry, though, they are in good company...

Ronaldo "Fenômeno", Rivaldo, Dunga, Cerezzo, Leonardo, Paulo Isidoro and several others who've even been world champions for Brazil, compared to those Dutch and Hungarian "animals", were as "hillybillies" as the Italians you mentioned...

4. Never said that either: you know quite a bit about football...

But patriotism let you enraged with what I said about Hungary and Holland as historically having more importance than your Italy - and that doesn't have anything to do with "not liking Italian players" nor is any novelty...

That's a fact, unanimously accepted by all experts...

Patriotism (and that happens to me too sometimes) which produces a sort of "temporary blindness" towards the eternal truths of football...

kingkong

12-06-2006, 12:55 AM

Don't "Forget" To Comment On My 2 Posts Above About The Wcc!...

Panathinaikos2

12-06-2006, 01:27 AM

This thread has become a joke now. The only people debating on this topic is Laury and King Kong.

kingkong

12-06-2006, 01:39 AM

Thanks for joining! :rockon:...

:grouphug:

kingkong

12-06-2006, 01:53 AM

This thread has become a joke now. The only people debating on this topic is Laury and King Kong.

Thanks for joining! :rockon:...

:grouphug:

Funny:

"joke", "joining", "jealousy"...

All starting with "j"...

So, feel free, Panat, to...

"jump" in the debate! :D ...

kingkong

12-06-2006, 01:55 AM

Don't "Forget" To Comment On My 2 Posts Above About The WCC!...

Or you're going to say I am "out of topic" because you "don't care about it"? :evil: ...

Laury84

12-06-2006, 05:57 AM

1. I wouldn't be that radical: they produced players individually way better than the Italians (UK: Stanley Matthews, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, George Best etc; France: Juste Fontaine, Raymond Kopa, Michel Platini, Zinedine Zidane etc)...

2. Never said that: Italy is the 2nd greatest winner of WCs - how could I possibly declare such a thing (putting words in my mouth)...

3. You just save there Meazza, S. Mazzola, Gigi Riva, Rivera Maldini, Baresi, Baggio, and that's it...

The rest are "hillybillies"...

As compared to Puskas or Cruyjff, of course: in the average, they were no more than good players......

Don't worry, though, they are in good company...

Ronaldo "Fenômeno", Rivaldo, Dunga, Cerezzo, Leonardo, Paulo Isidoro and several others who've even been world champions for Brazil, compared to those Dutch and Hungarian "animals", were as "hillybillies" as the Italians you mentioned...

4. Never said that either: you know quite a bit about football...

But patriotism let you enraged with what I said about Hungary and Holland as historically having more importance than your Italy - and that doesn't have anything to do with "not liking Italian players" nor is any novelty...

That's a fact, unanimously accepted by all experts...

Patriotism (and that happens to me too sometimes) which produces a sort of "temporary blindness" towards the eternal truths of football...
1. Do u know the difference between England and Great Britain?I don't think so...George Best has NEVER played 4 the english nt...he played only 4 N.Ireland....
they're better than italians???????:lol: :lol:

2.all right,but u said that we won a cup 4 one reason,another one 4 another reason and stuff....4-1-1-1-1 = 0.....

3.u're showing that u don't understand nothing about football if u say that u don't think that FACCHETTI was simply a genius.if it wasn't 4 him u wouldn't hav ur Cafu or R.Carlos now....u should learn a lot....

4.and u are showing that u hate italian football.nothing else.

Laury84

12-06-2006, 06:01 AM

Inter rooters at the airport this morning saying good-bye to the team in the departure to Japan...

http://www.internacional.com.br/imagens/noticias/EMBARQUE_JAPAO_2.jpg

Don't let escape the sublime view of 2005 CL Champ Barça coffin in the back :lol: ...
:lol: u don't hav even ur own ideas....

u're late with the coffin idea...we made it before...

and what I should say about that and about Pato?
He will come in Europe and GOOD LUCK 4 THE WCC...I know that u think that is the best cup in the world....:lol:

tdr

12-06-2006, 06:01 AM

Don't "Forget" To Comment On My 2 Posts Above About The WCC!...

Or you're going to say I am "out of topic" because you "don't care about it"? :evil: ...
Europe rules futbol :smoking:

we are invincible :D

Panathinaikos2

12-06-2006, 06:11 AM

Don't "Forget" To Comment On My 2 Posts Above About The WCC!...

Or you're going to say I am "out of topic" because you "don't care about it"? :evil: ...No but I will answer your posts later.

kingkong

12-06-2006, 07:01 AM

1. Do u know the difference between England and Great Britain?I don't think so...George Best has NEVER played 4 the english nt...he played only 4 N.Ireland....
they're better than italians???????:lol: :lol:

2.all right,but u said that we won a cup 4 one reason,another one 4 another reason and stuff....4-1-1-1-1 = 0.....

3.u're showing that u don't understand nothing about football if u say that u don't think that FACCHETTI was simply a genius.if it wasn't 4 him u wouldn't hav ur Cafu or R.Carlos now....u should learn a lot....

4.and u are showing that u hate italian football.nothing else.

1. You right: Best was Irish and not Brittish, and I'm wrong (not that much wrong though, since he was rooted in the English school, as Wales, Eire & Scotland's players also were)...

Point for you, though! :mad2: ...

2. Italy might not be the main European school, but I have to concede is a WC titles devourer: satisfied? ...

Point for us! ;) ...

3. Fachetti was a great player, but was very, very far from being a genius. "Geniuses" were: Moreno, Meazza, Leônidas, Zizinho, Puskas, F. Walter, Pelé, Beckenbauer, Platini, Baresi, Maradona, Cruyjff etc...

Cafu & RC needing Fachetti? For what? They had, at home, to mirror themselves, REAL geniuses, like Djalma Santos, Nilton Santos, Carlos Alberto, Marinho Chagas, Junior, Leandro, all of them much better than him!...

Point for me! :ronaldo: ...

4. And, last but not least: how can I hate Italy if I love...you?! :heart: ...

Point for SFN! :lol: ...

(Nothing else to declare either)

kingkong

12-06-2006, 07:08 AM

Europe rules futbol :smoking:

we are invincible :D

Tell you WHO rules:

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9358/kingkong4nu5.jpg

Laury84

12-06-2006, 07:10 AM

1. You right: Best was Irish and not Brittish, and I'm wrong (not that much wrong though, since he was rooted in the English school, as Wales, Eire & Scotland's players also were)...

Point for you, though! :mad2: ...

2. Italy might not be the main European school, but is a WC titles devourer: satisfied? ...

Point for us! ;) ...

3. Fachetti was a great player, but was very, very far from being a genius. "Geniuses" were: Moreno, Meazza, Leônidas, Zizinho, Puskas, F. Walter, Pelé, Beckenbauer, Platini, Baresi, Maradona, Cruyjff etc...

Cafu & RC needing Fachetti? For what? They had, at home, to mirror themselves, REAL geniuses, like Djalma Santos, Nilton Santos, Carlos Alberto, Marinho Chagas, Junior, Leandro, all of them much better than him!...

Point for me! :ronaldo: ...

4. How can I hate Italy if I love...you?! :heart: ...

Point for SFN! :lol: ...

(Nothing else to declare either)
1.I'm not saying that he was irish,but he wasn't ENGLISH!!!!

point 4 me ;)

2.all right,point 4 us ;)

3.Facchetti was the best player,the best human being in football and don't say no.RIP.

point 4 me ;)

4.all right point 4 sfn!

my points: 1+1+1 = 3
ur points: 1 = 1

I WINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!

PS.I love u too....:lol: :lol:

kingkong

12-06-2006, 07:17 AM

No but I will answer your posts later.

Waiting anxiously, Panat!...

:boxing:

Sema

12-06-2006, 07:34 AM

Tell you WHO rules:

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9358/kingkong4nu5.jpg

:lol:

kingkong

12-06-2006, 08:30 AM

the song is great,I really like it.thx...and are u starting to speak italian?????

Love...

simply operates miracles, bella!...

"Ti voglio, capisce, amore mio"? :love: ...

"Volare O-O,

Cantare O-O-O-O!"

:ronaldo: ...

kingkong

12-06-2006, 08:43 AM

Some day, you and me, Laury:

http://zu.meltonfoundation.org/%7Esure/blog/wp-content/photo/kingkong.jpg

Can you imagine: an Ape declaring himself to you...in Italian?

Laury84

12-06-2006, 03:11 PM

Love...

simply operates miracles, bella!...

"Ti voglio, capisce, amore mio"? :love: ...

"Volare O-O,

Cantare O-O-O-O!"

:ronaldo: ...
it's not capisce but capisci....

nel blu dipindo di blu!

Laury84

12-06-2006, 03:12 PM

Some day, you and me, Laury:

http://zu.meltonfoundation.org/%7Esure/blog/wp-content/photo/kingkong.jpg

Can you imagine: an Ape declaring himself to you...in Italian?
mmm....mmm...are u like an ape? :lol:

kingkong

12-06-2006, 09:27 PM

mmm....mmm...are u like an ape?

A few more KB's than the original one :lol: ...

tdr

12-06-2006, 09:35 PM

damn you still have game??

way to go old man way to go

kingkong

12-06-2006, 11:45 PM

damn you still have game??

way to go old man way to go

Still have game?

Prove you, Stace, who is Laury's boss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTl2aKNJl4

Got it?...

tdr

12-06-2006, 11:50 PM

Still have game?

Prove you, Stace, who is Laury's boss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTl2aKNJl4

Got it?...
yeah??

i shoot you down :smoking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXl8NYRT-ZU

kingkong

12-06-2006, 11:59 PM

Too late, Stace: before you shoot me, I end with at least 10 of your teeny tiny flying toys! :ronaldo: ...

Besides, watch like Laury desperately climbs the firestairs to declare she's madly in love with Kong!...

Not content with that, and envious of my irresistible KB's, you try, in a more recent version of the film, to take my role as KINGKONG:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOY9L2jvv-I

kingkong

12-07-2006, 12:10 AM

But that's all fiction, Stace:

While in your version you spend more than 10 minutes - since I had to keep my legs spread - earnestly trying to hit my unprotected GigaBytes with your teeny tiny toys, just watch what - in between the takes - the main characters of the movie sweetly entertain themselves with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3E9uyggX5E

:couch:

kingkong

12-07-2006, 12:46 AM

Gonna face it?...
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5349/kingkongyp2.jpg

KARM

12-07-2006, 01:12 AM

KK,
You really are a stuffed shirt full of hot Brazilian air! BTW, King Kong is a great old classic film that I was always facinated with as a child and all the years that I was growing up. Please don't poison my image of it by associating yourself with it!

kingkong

12-07-2006, 01:19 AM

kingkong

12-07-2006, 01:36 AM

King Kong is a great old classic film that I was always facinated with as a child and all the years that I was growing up

"KingKong", you?...Culture?...Great cinema?...

Too much earth to your little truck, bud...

You're more to "Pinocchio", http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/8263/kramzk9va9.jpg :lie: "Alice in Wonderland"*, or "Lethal Weapon 4": :laser: :car: ...

* (Walt Disney versions obviously; Lewis Carrol or Collodi have nothing to do with it!...)

kingkong

12-07-2006, 01:51 AM

Happy Birthday, my sometimes sweet Laury! ;) ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIjpRStEiL0

emode

12-07-2006, 04:16 AM

What is this thread about? ...... its up to 48 pages of worthless crap!!! :D

Laury84

12-07-2006, 07:31 AM

Happy Birthday, my sometimes sweet Laury! ;) ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIjpRStEiL0
Thanks Kingkonggggggggggggggggggggggg!!!!!!!

:hug: :) :)

Laury84

12-07-2006, 07:32 AM

but why "sometimes sweet"??? :lol:

Laury84

12-07-2006, 07:33 AM

btw I hav never SAW King Kong (the movie) in all my life....I've got the DVD...maybe I should see it!!

Laury84

12-07-2006, 07:34 AM

What is this thread about? ...... its up to 48 pages of worthless crap!!! :D
maybe if u read all the 48 pages u'll understand what this thread is about...

kingkong

12-07-2006, 10:34 PM

What is this thread about? ...... its up to 48 pages of worthless crap!!! :D

You too, emode?...

I clearly notice in the underlines a veiled criticism to the WCC - what you really want is to wickedly characterize it as the Worthless Crap Club's Cup, isn't it? :redeyes: ...

If that's true, just remind you that as far as letters are concerned CL and UEFA can mean lots of wicked things too :lol: ...

kingkong

12-07-2006, 10:51 PM

btw I hav never SAW King Kong (the movie) in all my life....I've got the DVD...maybe I should see it!!

Gotta see it in order to understand...us!

For ex: why you're "sometimes sweet" :), & I'm sometimes CRUEL :redeyes: (and vice-versa)...

It's really complex...

Fenerliyim

12-07-2006, 11:02 PM

good one emode

emode

12-08-2006, 12:07 AM

You too, emode?...

I clearly notice in the underlines a veiled criticism to the WCC - what you really want is to wickedly characterize it as the Worthless Crap Club's Cup, isn't it? :redeyes: ...

If that's true, just remind you that as far as letters are concerned CL and UEFA can mean lots of wicked things too :lol: ...

You understand me so well kingkong :lol: WCC = Worthless Crap Club :smoking: which just about summed up this thread b/c its so off-topic!! Are you the mod of this section Kingkong? You should have just lock this thread before it's gone this far :D.

To get back to the original topic of this thread Europe has a better chance to qualify for the world cup b/c they have 13 qualification spots as opposed to 8 for South American countries according to FIFA quota.

kingkong

12-08-2006, 05:14 AM

You understand me so well kingkong :lol: WCC = Worthless Crap Club :smoking: which just about summed up this thread b/c its so off-topic!! Are you the mod of this section Kingkong? You should have just lock this thread before it's gone this far :D.

To get back to the original topic of this thread Europe has a better chance to qualify for the world cup b/c they have 13 qualification spots as opposed to 8 for South American countries according to FIFA quota.

Off-topic???...

Ok, so now you tell me what to discuss :ronaldo: ...

I know very well what's off-topic or not!...

The title of the thread is "Europe vs S. America" (in the "World Soccer" section): it doesn't specify if it's WC, WCC, Olympics, Sub-21, Sub-17, Juniors or Kindergarten...

Lock? Why? Because CL's "champ" Barça's day is arriving? :lol: ...

Sincerely, at 1st I thought you're kidding: really like you Emode, but you're wrong, and, as far as "worthless crap", your contribution to this thread now was just priceless...

(Hope E-mod doesn't finnish with emode) ;)...

emode

12-08-2006, 06:07 AM

Off-topic???...
Ok, so now you tell me what to discuss :ronaldo: ...
I know very well what's off-topic or not!...
Yes when i started to see kingkong pic all over the thread so i thought this is so off topic :lol: I want to see lukas podoski pic not kingkong that why its off topic to me :p ...see now i'm going off topic too!

The title of the thread is "Europe vs S. America" (in the "World Soccer" section): it doesn't specify if it's WC, WCC, Olympics, Sub-21, Sub-17, Juniors or Kindergarten...
Now that u mentioned it yeah whats up with that? something wrong with the title there. But it was stated in the first post its about qualifying to the WorldCup is it not?

Lock? Why? Because CL's "champ" Barça's day is arriving? :lol: ...
yes, lock it so we can discuss something else & i'm looking forward to Barca CL :D

Sincerely, at 1st I thought you're kidding: really like you Emode, but you're wrong, and, as far as "worthless crap", your contribution to this thread now was just priceless...
I really like u too, no i'm a very serious person i never kid around & i don't write worthless crap :p ;)

(Hope E-mod doesn't finnish with emode) ;)...
I hope not too b/c wouldn't u miss me if i'm not around ;)

kingkong

12-08-2006, 06:35 AM

it was stated in the first post its about qualifying to the WorldCup

Ok, cutie!...

This was October 2005 (had just left adolescence by then)...

If the thread kept eternally discussing that very 1st question, it simply wouldn't arrive to the 2nd page (exaggerating a bit), and now, thanks to relevant diggressions (specially my pics :lol: ), we are arriving to 50.

The initial theme just revealed itself to be too limited, and the general theme "Europe vs S. America" proved itself to offer much wider and interesting questions...

Besides, "being hard or not to qualify" for WCs had relevance up to June 2006, when the WC started; so, after that, other themes naturally started being discussed...

OK, if you want to close the thread, it' all right with me:...let's have a beer by the beach! :rockon: ...

emode

12-08-2006, 07:05 AM

Ok, cutie!...
This was October 2005 (had just left adolescence by then)...
OK, if you want to close the thread, it' all right with me:...let's have a beer by the beach! :rockon: ...
Ok, hottie!....
wow so this this thread is so old ...didn't realized that.
Anyway i'm not the mod of this section so i can't lock it. Since i can't lock it lets continue this worthless chit-chatting & go to the beach :p :rockon:

kingkong

12-08-2006, 07:32 AM

Yeah, this is off-topic, Russian basketball:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2116/pic04827kz8.jpg

But that's on-topic (shows what Brazil will do to Italy in 2010):

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5425/pic02995wv6.jpg

Isn'it , Laury?...

Laury84

12-08-2006, 08:34 AM

ah ah kk......not so funny HONEY.....
it's u in the pic with my tower?

Laury84

12-08-2006, 08:35 AM

there are so many site with pic or Podolski...u should go there emode....:)
joking...

Laury84

12-08-2006, 01:35 PM

btw kk we'll meet ur team in the 2018 WC...and u'll win that match!!!:sad:

that's what happens every 12 years...but in 2030 we'll win the WC again!!! :)

so yeah...in 2010 we'll NOT WIN the cup....I think that Brazil will win...

Laury84

12-08-2006, 01:39 PM

and I really like the fact that u think that the WCC is better and most important that the WC.....:lol:

btw I think that we shouldn't talk about Olympics coz u know...it's not so important in football!!!btw we won the 3rd place in 2004...:):):):):):):):):)

kingkong

12-08-2006, 03:10 PM

Laury,

I know you and some SFN members are desperate with the fact that even some Europeans in this Forum are already starting to give me reason as far as the importance of the WCCs, but you don't have to lie in order (to try) to ridicule me...

When did I say that...

the WCC is better and most important that the WC...?

You're desperate, Laura, because Barça's day is arriving, and many people in SFN (fangs dripping with sadistic pleasure) are already buying the popcorn to witness the slaughter on TV*!...

*Although won't admit it...

("Barça is not my team, I want the rest to f***k off", already know, Laury, but that doesn't disguise your Euro frustration with SA dominance in the main soccer tournaments of the world).

It's only you who gets ridicule with lies like that...

(Message not short enough to you, right)?...

Period.

Laury84

12-08-2006, 05:56 PM

1.so if a lot of people of SFN will watch the f****** WCC I should do the same?!?!?!to watch...BARCA?!?!?!NOT ME HONEY!!!
and I told u thousand of times y I don't watch it.

2.I know that u didn't say that...but hey I was joking cmon...open ur mind a little bit...;)

3.And I was joking even when I said that u shoul write shorter post...u can do whatever u want honey...I don't give a f***.

4.I don't lie honey...I only say what I think...maybe we've got different points of view...

benfica64

12-09-2006, 09:03 AM

kingkong

12-09-2006, 05:13 PM

where did you find this pic?? cracked me up!!!

Great Benfica64,

Good to see you back: you're one of the smartest posters of the whole Forum, and deserves it (a friend sent it to me, gonna ask him)...

Laury84

12-09-2006, 05:14 PM

I'm the smartest...;)

kingkong

12-09-2006, 06:02 PM

I'm the smartest...;)

Sure babe,

You are my favourite poster in the whole Forum, my hell and my heaven, my poison & medicine, genesis and armaggedon, the pebble within my shoe, the fly that fell in my soup etc etc...

Pp'll think I'm in love.period.

Laury84

12-09-2006, 06:46 PM

Sure babe,

You are my favourite poster in the whole Forum, my hell and my heaven, my poison & medicine, genesis and armaggedon, the pebble within my shoe, the fly that fell in my soup etc etc...

Pp'll think I'm in love.period.
yeah...I know that u love me...;)

without me u're nothing...;) :lol:

Xikunahity

12-12-2006, 05:47 PM

Laury84

12-12-2006, 05:54 PM

the wcc must be respected, at least said one of the best player in the world (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6171655.stm)

one more reason i d like to point out ,as i ve done before, is that its the ultimate slap in the face of those so fond of their leagues that feel so much better saying how SA leagues and clubs are shit and how EU forge the best players, but when the time comes, its proven that the best sides in SA could play in any league in EU to win it, and most important, without any player with the so called EUROPEAN EXPERIENCE OR PLAYERS FORGED IN THE GLORIOUS FIELDS OF EU and ITS GREAT LESSONS

if barcelona and internacional reach finals, the field is gonna be packed of SAns. EU must not care about it.

the point is, SAns dont care if other ppl dont care about WCC, specially if its ppl from non traditional nations that happened to learn football in EU cable channels and can only find ppl to chat about it on internet, this ppl have no idea how little footaball they know.

PS. so now you are modding here, kk?nice
I think that I know a lot of things about football coz I live in the country where this sport is the most important...I'm Italian..

and I'll tell u the same things that I said thousand of times.
I used to love the Intercontinental Cup coz I think that one of the best things in the world is a match between the CL winner and the Copa Libertadores winner.But why in the WCC there are teams of nations that don't know NOTHING of what football really is and what this sport means 4 us?
That's the reason why don't like the WCC.

Xikunahity

12-12-2006, 09:44 PM

But why in the WCC there are teams of nations that don't know NOTHING of what football really is and what this sport means 4 us?
probably politics, votes and that kind a crap fifa loves

one thing that really suck is an amateur team taking part like the kiwi team

WCC TIME BARCELONA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjTUSnL30hQ)

kingkong

12-13-2006, 01:22 AM

probably politics, votes and that kind a crap fifa loves

one thing that really suck is an amateur team taking part like the kiwi team

WCC TIME BARCELONA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjTUSnL30hQ)

Sure there is politics etc, as in anywhere.

ICC and WCC, though, it's all basically the same!...

Doesn't change the confrontation essentially - just the format.

The goal is the same - the World Cup.

What matters is that the 2 best clubs of the world will be facing each other in the final...

And what decides who is the best is not their bank account, but what happens inside the four lines...

That's the pond where the panther drinks its water...

Laury84

12-13-2006, 07:43 AM

probably politics, votes and that kind a crap fifa loves

one thing that really suck is an amateur team taking part like the kiwi team

WCC TIME BARCELONA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjTUSnL30hQ)
yeah that sucks!!!FIFA is ridiculous...they all sucks!!They're doing only s****.
We've got the leagues in Europe...who cares about playing against the asian champion???????Nobody I think....

Xikunahity

12-13-2006, 03:35 PM

We've got the leagues in Europe...who cares about playing against the asian champion???????Nobody I think....

ok, but i still think thats obvious SAan sides throught out history have got enough tradition to be respected by an EUan team and be considered like a legitimate challenge

as kk said, the essence of the competition is the same

Laury84

12-13-2006, 04:15 PM

ok, but i still think thats obvious SAan sides throught out history have got enough tradition to be respected by an EUan team and be considered like a legitimate challenge

as kk said, the essence of the competition is the same
no it's not...we can't do stupid games against stupid teams...I want the IC back and play only against the CLibert winner...stop.I don't wanna play against sjhòfhòhòfiòso....

kingkong

12-13-2006, 09:48 PM

no it's not...we can't do stupid games against stupid teams...I want the IC back and play only against the CLibert winner...stop.I don't wanna play against sjhòfhòhòfiòso....

Yeah?...

And how about the "sjhòfhòhòfiòso" teams that you play in your dear CL (listed below)?...

They are all right to you just because they belong to distant and folkloric Europe, isn'it? :lol: ...

· København (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=52709/competition=1/index.html)
· Levski (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=50044/competition=1/index.html)
· Shakhtar (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=52707/competition=1/index.html)
· Chievo (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=77904/competition=1/index.html)
· Crvena Zvezda (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=50069/competition=1/index.html)
·
· Hearts (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=50120/competition=1/index.html)
· Legia (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=50146/competition=1/index.html)
· Liberec (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=64385/competition=1/index.html)
· M. Haifa (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=59045/competition=1/index.html)
· Mladá Boleslav (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=88134/competition=1/index.html)
· Rabotnicki (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=69601/competition=1/index.html)
· Ružomberok (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=64319/competition=1/index.html)
Clubs eliminated in second qualifying round

· B36 (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=57476/competition=1/index.html)
· Cork (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=52803/competition=1/index.html)
· Debrecen (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=52958/competition=1/index.html)
· Djurgården (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=52809/competition=1/index.html)
· Ekranas (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=59035/competition=1/index.html)
· Gorica (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=60403/competition=1/index.html)
· Hafnarfjördur (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=59329/competition=1/index.html)
· Metalurgs (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=59881/competition=1/index.html)
· MyPa (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=59012/competition=1/index.html)
· Sheriff (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=69606/competition=1/index.html)
· Sioni (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=64470/competition=1/index.html)
· Široki Brijeg (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=73387/competition=1/index.html)
· Vålerenga (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=52318/competition=1/index.html)
Clubs eliminated in first qualifying round

· Aktobe (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=79973/competition=1/index.html)
· Apollon (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=52741/competition=1/index.html)
· Baku (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=68201/competition=1/index.html)
· Birkirkara (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=62171/competition=1/index.html)
· Dudelange (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=59028/competition=1/index.html)
· Elbasan (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=50048/competition=1/index.html)
· Linfield (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=50134/competition=1/index.html)
· Pyunik (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=77431/competition=1/index.html)
· Shakhtyor (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=64375/competition=1/index.html)
· TNS (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=60457/competition=1/index.html)
· TVMK (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=70208/competition=1/index.html)