Hello Aussies!! We Meet Again!!

[URUGUAY_RULES]

I Really Didn´t Want Things To Be This Way.

I Like Australia, I´ve Got Friends There, Lots Of Uruguayans Live There And They Say Australians Are Very Friendly.

But This Is Soccer, There´s No Place For Friendship And I Want My Country To Qualify For Germany 2006.

I Think It´s Unfair For You To Play Against Us. You Should Have A Direct Place In Germany.

But I Also Think It Would Be Unfair For Us To Be Out Of The World Cup. C´mon, We Have Won It 2 Times Already, We Don´t Deserve This.

Fate Has Put Us In The Same Situation Again, 4 Years After We Qualified For World Cup 2002, After Beating You In Our Legendary Centenario.

I Think You´ve Got A More Mature Team Than In 2001, With Awesome Players And An Excellent Coach. But We Also Have Great Players, Unequaled Supporting Fans And Lots Of Trophies And Victories In Our Back.

It Will Be Hard, But I Hope Uruguay Will Win. I Also Hope You Can Earn A Direct Place For World Cup 2010, So You Don´t Have To Play With Southamerica´s Fifth Team Anymore.

Y A Vos Chileno Eterno Perdedor, Mirá El Mundial Por Tv Como Toda Tu Fracasada Vida, Nunca Le Ganaron A Nadie Y Nunca Lo Van A Hacer, No Existen, Son Horribles Y Muy Cagones Como Para Ir A La Copa Del Mundo, Encima Tienen De Técnico Al Vendepatria De Acosta, Un Traidor Que Se Fue A Dar Lástima A Chile Porque Acá Lo Echaron Como Un Perro. Me Imagino Que Vas A Hinchar Por Australia, Como Buen Resentido Que Sos... Ta Bien, Toda La Vida Fueron Así, Hinchando Por Los Demás Porque Uds Nunca Le Ganaron A Nadie...

[ELLAS_OLE]

were gonna smash use... go u aussiessssssss culina will ***kn kill every single player of urs

[Lance Knight]

well amm... dont u think u should have had the whole post in english, austrilla is an english speacking country, lol waht a dumby, lol

but yea, lol just glad we dont have to face u, instead we facing some wierd named asian side, lol

[Alex_M]

Even though Australia has matured and improved greatly since last time i still see no way of them getting past Uruguay. I watched them play against Argentina and I don't think the aussies are gonna be able to match them physically.
But anyway we will see in a couple of months time.

[soccerates]

, lol waht a dumby, lol

lol, a "dumby"

:lol:

[AusFootball]

It Will Be Hard, But I Hope Uruguay Will Win. I Also Hope You Can Earn A Direct Place For World Cup 2010, So You Don´t Have To Play With Southamerica´s Fifth Team Anymore.

:red-card: We are moving into Asia on January 1 2006, therefore you guys wont have to play us again... Maybe New Zealand or something instead???

and your going down uruguay this year. Its our destiny to go to the World Cup in Germany next year... just like we did 32 years ago

[Lance Knight]

lol, a "dumby"

:lol:
yea i like to make up words, lol

[URUGUAY_RULES]

The spanish part of my message was for Chileno to read it, I think you know that in Chile people speak spanish, so he will understand.

Uruguay going down? Come on aussies, I know you´ve got your chances to qualify, but you´ve got to admit that in 2001 you chickened out in Centenario stadium... I don´t blame you, our classic rivals (Brazil and Argentina) do it all the time, we are the most feared fans in South America, ask anyone... You were hoping not to face us again, wanting peaceful Chile or laid back Colombia to rank fifth, but once again Uruguay it´s on your way to a World Cup, and you know it will de difficult for you to beat us...

Guus Hiddink is a great coach, but he´s always had problems with Uruguay... let´s take 1988 European South-American Cup in Japan for an example, when he coached PSV Eindhoven against Nacional... Hiddink had Romario, Koeman and other stars in the team, but uruguayan guts were too much for him... 2-2 in extra time with two goals from Ostolaza, 7-6 in penalties and Nacional winning the trophy for the third time (by the way, of the five teams that share this privilege, two are from Uruguay). He´s having nightmares with that game until today, please help him to get over it. To make sure he remembers us, we will be expecting him at the airport to give him a "pleasant welcome".

Believe me, if you were playing against any south american team I would be supporting you... but it´s us again, so, like my countrymen said, good luck... in 2010.

P.S. I´m already playing the matches in Winning Eleven 9 (PS2)... Kewell and Viduka are outstanding, but Real Madrid´s Pablo García and our strong defenders can control them (taking no prisoners, of course).

[AusFootball]

hahahhaha you better not ***k us over at the airport like you thugs did last year!

we will be flying in on a charterd flight hopefully so this problem will not arise again, however i read today that FIFA rules mean you at least have to stay one night in the country prior to the match...

And yes, Kewell and Viduka will destroy your defense, especially in the home leg as it is known Uruguay do not travel very well at all. And new PSV sensation Jason Culina will also destroy Uruguay and we will go through because we are not going to back down physically no way.

[hardssa]

hahahhaha you better not ***k us over at the airport like you thugs did last year!

Haha i know what you mean, put them in cages!

Yeah its time. Uruguay are in for a surprise. And honestly im more scared of Colombian fans. They kill people and players. Even they're own :mad2:

We learned from our mistakes last time. Expect a team stronger and fueled on revenge. How sweet it will be :kiss:

[URUGUAY_RULES]

Viera (Villarreal) or Carini (Cagliari);

Diogo (Real Madrid), Montero (San Lorenzo -ex Juventus-), Lugano (Sao Paulo -Libertadores 2005 champions-) and Darío Rodríguez (Schalke 04);

Varela (Schalke 04), Pablo García (Real Madrid) and Recoba (Inter Milan);

Forlán (Villarreal, spanish liga top scorer), Zalayeta (Juventus) and Richard Morales (Málaga).

Subs: Diego López (Cagliari), Vicente Sánchez (Toluca), Darío Silva (Sevilla), Estoyanoff (Cádiz), etc.

This is the starting line up for the Argentina match... You´ve got to be honest: we´ve got better players... Besides Viduka, Kewell, Aloisi and this new guy Culina, nobody knows your players...

Please pray not to panic here in Uruguay, if we go to Sydney with a 3-0 like in 2001, it will be impossible for you to come back from that disadvantage...

Uruguayans in Australia will support our team, like they did it in 2001... Australians in Uruguay?? Hahaha I don´t think so, last time only eight aussies made it to the Centenario stadium, and they ended up partying with us in the streets of Montevideo, talking about how you guys admire our soccer... as we admire your Wallabies... your Foster´s beer... the Simpson´s going to Australia episode... Kylie Minogue!!!!!!!! hahahahahahaha You should dedicate to those activities, soccer is for the pro´s like Uruguay, we´ve been playing since forever, you are just rookies...

P.S.: "it is known Uruguay do not travel very well at all" Hahahaha, you´re right, we only beat Brazil in their own Maracaná stadium in a World Cup final with a record attendance of 200,000, coming from behind to win 2-1... I guess maybe we´ll be scared of the australian fans in the Telstra stadium of Sydney... Hahahahahahahaha.

[sonofrecoba]

Kewell and Viduka will destroy our defense?

Are you out of your mind, little kangaroo?

Think about the core of the defense:
2- Montero is Montero and you dont stay 10 yrs at Juventus for nothing.
3- Lugano is an idol in Sao Paolo and voted on the BRazilian Leagues top11.
5- Garcia is a starter on Real Madrid

As a unit these guys play against:
- Ronaldo, Dinho, Kaka & co.
- Crespo, Tevez & Riquelme
- Santa Cruz (Bayern Munich)
- Guerrero & Farfan

Viduka & Kewell are nothing. They were great players but they're careers are running on fumes. Do you seriously think that they pose a threat?

C'mon Kangaroo!! You can do better than that.

Also, you think that because you held Salomon Islands to 1 goal its the same as facing Recoba, Forlan & Zalayeta?

The only things you have in your favor are:
- Hiddink (who, it was pointed out, still has a Uruguay phobia)
- The flight
- Uruguayan over-confidence

Otherwise..your screwed and might as well start planning the games in Asia (where I hope you get a chance).

[sonofrecoba]

Uruguay doesnt travel well? Your mistaken, if anything we play badly at home. You see, Montevideo is a pressure cooker and even our players suffer...I can only imagine poor Kewell thinking it was just another outing against Middlesborough or something.

C'mon.

You guys should start learning something about futbol in general and Uruguayan futbol in particular. We might not be world powers anymore but when the chips are very fierce.

[muji]

I think you Uruguayians rely alot on History.. Trust me, you might think Australia are the same but with hiddink in charge and a few new young faces, they have improved very much.. So don't expect to win 3-0 like you did last time. CARN THE SOCCEROOS!!

[VietnameseAussi]

Ok, lets not get too cocky here. Im an australian supporter, but i do know that Uruguay is a good team. But still, Australia has improved alot. Im not saying that Australia will kick Uruguays butt, but i know they will be more tougher then they were 4 years back. It was pretty unfair how the Aussies were unfairly treated in Uruguay though, i must say. Anyway, we'll just have to wait and see within a month! Sadly i've got my exams during that time :sad: but... go the SOCCEROOS!!!

[AusFootball]

Since you only know a few of our players, I will post some of our team up here and see what clubs they are at and their abilty...

Goalkeepers:
Zelko Kalac (AC Milan), Mark Schwarzer (Middelsbrough)

Defenders:
Craig Moore (Newcastle United), Tony Popovic (Crystal Palace), Lucas Neill (Blackburn), Lljubo Milicivic (FC Thun), Michael Thwaite (National Bucheresti) thats about it... not our strongest area...

Midfielders:
Jason Culina (PSV Eindhoven), Mark Bresciano (Parma), Vince Grella (Parma), Brett Emerton (Blackburn), Josip Skoko (Wigan), Scott Chipperfield (Basel), Harry Kewell (Liverpool), Tim Cahill (Everton), Ahmad Elrich (Fulham)

Forwards:
Mark Viduka (Middlesbrough), John Aloisi (Alaves), Joel Griffiths (Neuchatel Xamax), Archie Thompson (Melbourne) :ronaldo:

thats all i can think of right now. I look forward to Uruguay coming to Australia and watching them play.
goodluck Uruguay~!

[VietnameseAussi]

hehe yup! =] ! great players we have

[quenonino]

C'mon Uruguay!You'll do it again!
Only some arrogant-ignoramous can under-estimate the skills and courage of uruguayans.

Don't give uruguayan people that staff about being thugs-cavepeople etc...that only shows the absolute ignorance of some people.

Learn a little bit about other people before judging.Some aussies put us on the map because of soccer but Uruguay is a country you could learn much from in many areas:Education for example!

Your arrogance=ignorance!Uruguay is a little country but huge in terms of the spirit of its people.We have made huge contributions to humanity and not only in the field of sports.-History will judge us oh yeah.

C'mon aussies c'mon you have much to learn! We will meet again! Be ready for the lesson! First one:1) respect the adversary.

Vamos Uruguay que no ni no!!!
Arriba la celeste aunque le cueste!

If you dont understand we can give you a Spanish lesson for free.(ah yeah we speak Spanish in Uruguay because it was discoverded and conquered by the Spaniards).We can give you a Historiy lesson if you wish too.Most uruguayans are bilingual and understand English as well....We have been learning to communicate as well as kicking the ball.. :smoking:

[sonofrecoba]

Listen. I have heard a lot about Australia getting better. OK. Valid point. Hiddink is a great coach.

Now, dont you think that we have gotten better? W/out even going to teh actual quality of the players, dont you think that having a core group of players that already went through this and a WC is better? I think you agree as this is your same argument.

So...if both of us went thru this...it is not an advantage for AUS. Yes, if you had been playing COL. But not agains us. So..here is AUS pro:
- Hiddink is a good coach
- Have some nice young players

URU pro
- Has the same spinal column, playing better than before
- Has added world class players (see Forlan & Lugano)
- Has a fantastic group

These are all intangibles.

Now..for you that say we are getting too confident. Its not confidence. ITs pointing out the reality. Or wouldnt an arg or a brz point out their laurels? Eh? So we should just shut up and say..yes AUS is a powerhouse and we are shit?

Cmon guys!

[VietnameseAussi]

quenonino <--- are u saying that Australians are ***ken dumb or something? We contribute to other stuff too.. and WE DO have education..

And we never said Australia was a powerhouse, we are just being supportive to our players... like u are being supportive with your players.. though i know you do have an advantage. But at the moment we cant really say anything until we actually WATCH THE GAME! .. things happen in soccer, even unexpected things..! it'll be interesting

[URUGUAY_RULES]

Son of Recoba, I think you´re being too cocky, that´s not how we uruguayans are... Hablando en criollo, no nos vamos a agrandar al pedo, ese no es nuestro juego, las veces que ganamos siempre fuimos de callados (de punto y no de banca, como en el 50), cuando hablamos mucho terminamos mal, es claro que tenemos muchas chances de ganarles a los australianos, pero mientras más nos llenemos la boca más difícil va a ser... Acordate cómo terminó Carrasco con Venezuela acá en el Estadio... La soberbia no es nuestro estilo... Vamo arriba Uruguay loco, el 12 de Noviembre llenamos el Estadio y el partido lo empezamos a ganar desde la tribuna... Un fuerte abrazo.

As some aussies said here, anything can happen, the only truth is the result of the match... I hope Uruguay will win, but I respect Australia and I know it will be difficult to beat them...

I´m really looking forward to see Guus Hiddink in Montevideo, I want hime to autograph my Nacional flag (www.decano.com)... Hahahahaha I don´t think he will acceed to sign it...

[VietnameseAussi]

yup, the truth will only be the end results of the match, which should be interesting. Uruguay_Rules <-- i respect your opinion that u hope ur country will win, ur a uruguayan, so of course ur goin to cheer for ur country. Its like myself, I'm hoping Australia will win, and it will mean alot for Australia.

lol, whats the point of making him sign ur national flag? i dont think he would though.

[quenonino]

Vietnamese-aussie: I answered to you in another forum and explained why I said what I said.I did not imply that all Australians are ignoramous or that Uruguayans are educated and Australians are not.

My comments were in response to outrageous-insulting comments made here and in the media where Uruguayans have been label and portrait as being "thugs" "mob" cave-people- third-world savages- etc etc.

I agree with Uruguay Rules when he confirms that Uruguayans in general: players and fans alike are not arrogant-show offs-cocky- disrespectful individuals.We are passionate yes! We are emotional yes! and proud of it! It's our latin blood! but we are not arrogant!

We play the game in the field and show what we are capable of there.Of course we support our players but we are not blind when analising our strenghts and weaknesses and we do not take the oppportunity to insult a whole nation just because of the action of some "thugs" as it was done to Uruguay when the aussies were "abused" at the Carrasco Airport.

Australian media insulted us! and how! and that can only be seen as ignorance and arrogance.

Uruguayans will not tolerate to be labelled as Third World savages.Not if we can help it because we are not!

There are fans that are "thugs" but that not only happens in Uruguay..Don't we have them in Australia too?

We thank soccer because due to soccer Uruguay is now known by more Australians.Australia should thank the game too for giving them the knowledge of a country like Uruguay.Globalization demands knowledge and knwoledge is power...in soccer too.

We meet again and let's hope it will be an enjoyable game.

[hardssa]

There are fans that are "thugs" but that not only happens in Uruguay..Don't we have them in Australia too?
Sure we do have some here, but never would you see Australian fans attack visiting countries here to play football.

We meet again and let's hope it will be an enjoyable game.
I think it will be :)

[quenonino]

Correction:I meant to say :Have been labelled and portraited-Sorry if I made a mistake in grammar...It doesn't count in soccer o does it?
I'm an :alien: but I do my self evaluation and recognise my mistakes..I am uruguayan! ;)-------Almost an own goal but...saved! :p

[quenonino]

Hardssa: Hope you are right and we will never see something so regrettable happening in here.

Let me share a Spanish say with you though:"Never say never..."One never can be so sure about that or anything like that not happening here or anywhere else.

We can only hope it doesn't happen or maybe try to prevent it from happening.

I have seen worse abuses in Australia...but then again that would be another topic of discussion.

I also think it will be a great game-that's why I'll make sure I get my ticket!

Cheers mate!

[hardssa]

Hardssa: Hope you are right and we will never see something so regrettable happening in here.

Let me share a Spanish say with you though:"Never say never..."One never can be so sure about that or anything like that not happening here or anywhere else.

We can only hope it doesn't happen or maybe try to prevent it from happening.

I have seen worse abuses in Australia...but then again that would be another topic of discussion.

I also think it will be a great game-that's why I'll make sure I get my ticket!

Cheers mate!
Your right never say never. However when it comes to international sport here im pretty sure in the past 10 years we haven't had any incedents. And i think its due to the fact we have hugely different cultures. Yours is obviously on a huge passion that can get out of hand. Ours is probably more suttle, still highly passionate but most know when to draw the line.

And dont get me wrong. Violence in sport happens here . Riots etc. But its restricted to a local level. Let's just hope for the best next month :)

[quenonino]

Thank you for the dialogue Hardssa.You have given me food for thought regarding the international incident we have been talking about.

Let me tell you that I far as I know that was the first incident of the kind that happened in Uruguay and we have been receiving foreign delegations for decades.
History tells that when Uruguay won the World Cup in 1950 in Brasil-our players had to be escorted by police to the airport for fear they would be attacked by uncontrolable fanatics but they were not.Let me tell you as well that we regard Brasilians as being much more passionate and hard to control than uruguayans.As you can see it is a matter of perceptions.

Maybe incidents like the one we are referring to have happened in other Southamerican countries but not in Uruguay.There is not precedent that I am aware of.If you can prove otherwise I would appreciate you refer me to the records.

Some people tend to see us as a whole continent and what happens in Colombia o Argentina for example could be taken as a general rule for every country in South America and that is unfair.

Regarding your opinion that the behaviour of a small group of antisocial people could be explained by cultural differences-I would like to say that I would not think the analisis could be that simple.Emotion and passion could play a role yes but it seems to me that there could be other variables we might not be aware of behind incidents like this.

I have read that the whole episode was orchestrated.By who? With what purpose? Who knows?

One thing is for certain:it almost ended up in a diplomatic problem between Uruguay and Australia and that was the dangerous part.

I find interesting what you say about the difference between Uruguayan culture and Australian culture.I am not quite sure what u mean by that.
I think I do know something about both cultures because I have lived in both societies.I don't find extreme differences between them as to support your argument.Our system of values and our laws are very similar.

Were you referring to the fact that while we have latin ancestry Australia has AngloSaxon?(English ancestry?) and therefore the big difference lies on that?....hmmm we would be getting into deep discussion if so because I do believe Australia is a multicultural society and although we share the "Australian way of life"...I would not say Australia is representative of a pure "Anglo" way of life (if there is such a thing)... that point made to contest your acertion that most Australian are not that emotional or/and uncontrolable and "know where to draw the line".

In soccer maybe they do draw the line...but not necessarily because of a particular cultural characteristic.

In regard to international sporting hosting Uruguay has a sound record as good as Australia's.

Uruguayans are peaceful and friendly people.We are a democratic country.(with the exception of the period of a deplorable dictatorship in the last century) Uruguay has been an example of democracy and peace.A neutral country Uruguay has welcomed migrants from all over the world when it was economically attractive to migrants.

Soccer is our passion and through sports we have established friendly ties with nations all around the world..that's why I insist with this topic.Our international image is important and it is good to see that we have Uruguayans in Australia willing to dispell the misconceptions some people have about Uruguay.

[URUGUAY_RULES]

I want Hiddink to sign Club Nacional de Football flag (the most popular and glorious soccer team in my country, the one that beat PSV in 1988 when Guus was the coach), not Uruguay´s flag... I hope this will clarify your confusion between NaCional flag and Uruguay´s naTional flag...

I know that aussies have a good image of Uruguay... I´ve got friends there and they really respect us... Once again, the media played an important part in this topic of thugs, cave people and all that bulls**t.

It´s a matter of knowledge and information. Only ignorants can say that uruguayans are savages. The same ignorants that asked how many vaccines they needed to go to Australia when the Olympic Games in Sydney in 2000.

We don´t have to defend our country... our history speaks for itself... the same with Australia... how can anyone say that aussies are ignorants of other cultures when they received thousands of immigrants in the last century (as we did in the 1800´s)? They are also an example of how to deal with the "aborigin issue", how to include natives in society with an active participation (something that USA and other countries should learn).

Fortunately, the match between us and the socceroos is the clash of two open-minded, peaceful and tolerant countries, so I think we should keep the discussion to soccer topics... the other aspects cannot be denied by anyone..

After this philosophical and political speech, let me tell you something aussies: I can´t wait to kicn your ass in November... hahahaha.

Hooroo. See you... Vamos Uruguay carajo!!!

[stoyo1337]

Since you only know a few of our players, I will post some of our team up here and see what clubs they are at and their abilty...

Goalkeepers:
Željko Kalac (AC Milan), Mark Schwarzer (Middelsbrough)

Defenders:
Craig Moore (Newcastle United), Tony Popović (Crystal Palace), Lucas Neill (Blackburn), Ljubo Miličević (FC Thun), Michael Thwaite (National Bucheresti) thats about it... not our strongest area...

Midfielders:
Jason Čulina (PSV Eindhoven), Mark Bresciano (Parma), Vince Grella (Parma), Brett Emerton (Blackburn), Josip Skoko (Wigan), Scott Chipperfield (Basel), Harry Kewell (Liverpool), Tim Cahill (Everton), Ahmad Elrich (Fulham)

Forwards:
Mark Viduka (Middlesbrough), John Aloisi (Alaves), Joel Griffiths (Neuchatel Xamax), Archie Thompson (Melbourne) :ronaldo:

Na *********** what´d u do without the cro´s on the team? :rolleyes: :lol:

[miladin]

The spanish part of my message was for Chileno to read it, I think you know that in Chile people speak spanish, so he will understand.

Uruguay going down? Come on aussies, I know you´ve got your chances to qualify, but you´ve got to admit that in 2001 you chickened out in Centenario stadium... I don´t blame you, our classic rivals (Brazil and Argentina) do it all the time, we are the most feared fans in South America, ask anyone... You were hoping not to face us again, wanting peaceful Chile or laid back Colombia to rank fifth, but once again Uruguay it´s on your way to a World Cup, and you know it will de difficult for you to beat us...

Guus Hiddink is a great coach, but he´s always had problems with Uruguay... let´s take 1988 European South-American Cup in Japan for an example, when he coached PSV Eindhoven against Nacional... Hiddink had Romario, Koeman and other stars in the team, but uruguayan guts were too much for him... 2-2 in extra time with two goals from Ostolaza, 7-6 in penalties and Nacional winning the trophy for the third time (by the way, of the five teams that share this privilege, two are from Uruguay). He´s having nightmares with that game until today, please help him to get over it. To make sure he remembers us, we will be expecting him at the airport to give him a "pleasant welcome".

Believe me, if you were playing against any south american team I would be supporting you... but it´s us again, so, like my countrymen said, good luck... in 2010.

P.S. I´m already playing the matches in Winning Eleven 9 (PS2)... Kewell and Viduka are outstanding, but Real Madrid´s Pablo García and our strong defenders can control them (taking no prisoners, of course).

:lol: i really cant wait to see your face when your pride and joy is taken away by our country haha enough of your fans already.. We arent scared of anything that you have!
We will see soon and then i hope you still have pride to post on this forum :lol: :D

[miladin]

You should dedicate to those activities, soccer is for the pro´s like Uruguay, we´ve been playing since forever, you are just rookies...


I will tell you this, because im sure you have no idea.. but most of the players in the australian team.. their background and football history is not FROM australia.. most of them are european and i think its fair to say, we european australians KIK YOUR ASSSS HAHAHAHA :lol: so, its in the australian teams blood just as much as it is in yours.

And for the purebread australians! It has nothing to do with how far back they go!.. just like asian teams, soccer has never been that big, but it is getting so big lately and they are really improving.. with china's population and japan etc.. and their love for the game, i can tell you now, those teams will start making their mark in the game!

Just like in australia, soccer is becoming bigger and bigger!

so you have no advantages.. just your mouth which goes :blabla: :blabla: :blabla: :loco: cheers!

[miladin]

C'mon Uruguay!You'll do it again!
Only some arrogant-ignoramous can under-estimate the skills and courage of uruguayans.

Don't give uruguayan people that staff about being thugs-cavepeople etc...that only shows the absolute ignorance of some people.

Learn a little bit about other people before judging.Some aussies put us on the map because of soccer but Uruguay is a country you could learn much from in many areas:Education for example!

Your arrogance=ignorance!Uruguay is a little country but huge in terms of the spirit of its people.We have made huge contributions to humanity and not only in the field of sports.-History will judge us oh yeah.

C'mon aussies c'mon you have much to learn! We will meet again! Be ready for the lesson! First one:1) respect the adversary.

Vamos Uruguay que no ni no!!!
Arriba la celeste aunque le cueste!

If you dont understand we can give you a Spanish lesson for free.(ah yeah we speak Spanish in Uruguay because it was discoverded and conquered by the Spaniards).We can give you a Historiy lesson if you wish too.Most uruguayans are bilingual and understand English as well....We have been learning to communicate as well as kicking the ball.. :smoking:



well, we speak english and abororiginal! i bet you didnt know that one!~ :lol:

[URUGUAY_RULES]

Miladin, people like you are the reason why I want Uruguay to kick your cocky ass in November...

I think you´re the one that is talking too much bullsh*t... At least I talk about trophies, victories, a winning history... you, on the other hand, are making predictions about an uncertain future...

If we don´t go to Germany ´06 (or the next ten World Cups), we still are one of the greatest soccer teams in the game´s history... only Brazil, Argentina, Italy and Germany can be compared with us... thant´s something you can´t change... We were winning World Cups since the times you didn´t know if the soccer ball was round or square... so please show some respect... you still have a long way to go... Australia or Serbia...

In fact, Croatia (your classic rival), with only two world cups played, has already made it to the third place... and Serbia??? Please, dedicate to basketball...

[miladin]

Miladin, people like you are the reason why I want Uruguay to kick your cocky ass in November...

I think you´re the one that is talking too much bullsh*t... At least I talk about trophies, victories, a winning history... you, on the other hand, are making predictions about an uncertain future...

If we don´t go to Germany ´06 (or the next ten World Cups), we still are one of the greatest soccer teams in the game´s history... only Brazil, Argentina, Italy and Germany can be compared with us... thant´s something you can´t change... We were winning World Cups since the times you didn´t know if the soccer ball was round or square... so please show some respect... you still have a long way to go... Australia or Serbia...

In fact, Croatia (your classic rival), with only two world cups played, has already made it to the third place... and Serbia??? Please, dedicate to basketball...

:blabla: :blabla: here you go again!... lets not talk so much about the past mate. Good im glad to see you want to kick our ass... its good to have that enthusiasm.

i dont need to talk about the (many :lol: ) other things serbia are good at.. or our (classic rival) we are talking about australia and uruguay. :lol: and if PPL like me are the reason you want to win.. u have to get your priorities straight. I want to win, becuase i want australia/serbia to win for their countries! not to just beat the other team because of cocky supporters!

and ur fans dont have SHIT on serbias M*****f****R :loco:

[miladin]

and UR SIGNUTARE .. it actually made me laugh bahahhahahah :lol:

[AusFootball]

We were winning World Cups since the times you didn´t know if the soccer ball was round or square

have u ever won a rugby world cup? a cricket world cup? an olympic gold medal for that matter? Football is a religion to you guys over there and here we play all types of sport, so your history is irrelevant at this point of time. The only thing that is important is the 12th and 16th of November.

[quenonino]

So Australians speak English and Aboriginal Languages Miladin?

You say:

"well, we speak english and abororiginal! i bet you didnt know that one!~"

How "hilarious" :rolleyes: Not!! :mad2:
__________________

Now that u mention it-it's interesting that the Australian team doesn't have any aboriginal player.Or does it? What could be the reason? Give us some insight Miladin-please! :confused:

There isn't any player in the Australian team with Southamerican background either.Interesting indeed!

Maybe Uruguay Rules has the explanation.You said in other forum that aborigines in Australia have the same opportunities as everyone else. :confused: Maybe they don't like soccer. :confused:
Don't you know any player in Australia with aboriginal background or Uruguayan background good enough that could help the aussies Uruguay Rules? : :worried:
I do know good Southamerican aussies that could be in the Australian Team but they are not! :confused:

C'mon boys contribute with some brainy analysis! I'm willing to learn!
In soccer I am torn in my allegiance between Australia and Uruguay.. :confused: :worried: :sad: NOT!! :D

Vamo arriba Uruguay carajo! Que no ni no! :lol: :lol:

[URUGUAY_RULES]

Miladin: Please stop talking bulls*it in this forum, people in Serbia need you to support tyranic dictators like Slobodan Milosevic, or to kill people like you did in Srebrenica... you fu**ing murderers of innocent people, call your friends and start killing some muslims or croatians, that´s your number one sport in Serbia: cruel murder of civilians, women and children... that´s the only activity in which your country is the worldwide undisputed leader... and that´s not something to laugh about... in fact, you should be ashamed...

***********: No, we´ve never won a rugby World Cup or a cricket World Cup, but this forum is about soccer, so let´s talk about that... Oh, I´m sorry, I forgot that you aussies don´t have anything to say about soccer, because you haven´t won anything... I understand now why you need to talk about other sports... but you should try to shut up and listen to the pro´s... that´s the only way to learn... last time you were talking a lot of cr*p, don´t you remember? but the 3-0 in Montevideo shutted your mouth for a long time...

Let´s see if this example can help you to understand my point... In 1900, british teams came to Montevideo and Buenos Aires to play against Uruguay and Argentina, south-america´s most powerful teams at that time... Newspapers of that year show how our ancestors were sure of the victory over the europeans, but, as it was said here, the only truth is the result of the match... it turned out that the british kicked both uruguayan and argentinian´s asses, and our ancestors learned a valuable lesson: don´t mess with the guys that invented the sport... try to learn from them... 50 years later we had won two world cups and two olympic gold medals in soccer...

I think you must act like we did a century ago... show some respect, try to learn and don´t talk bul*shit before the match, specially if the team you´re messing with is the one that kept you out of the last World Cup!!

It´s the same for us in rugby... I can´t discuss about that sport with you... I have to learn from you... I would be out of my mind if I said: "Teros are going to beat Wallabies in the next IRB World Cup"... as you´re out of your mind if you say that the socceroos are favourites against Uruguay for the matches in November... Come on mate, use you common sense...

[sonofrecoba]

Che...URUGUAY_RULES, no era que lo nuestro es la humildad y que calladitos haciamos la nuestra!!?!? Te sacaron de la jaula fiera!! Vistes lo que yo te decia, estos locos se cagan en nosotros como si fuesemos un Guatemala mas. No saben, ni les importa la historia...mucho menos la nuestra.

Listen, I think the point is that you are ignoring years of history. Has that history helped us in the last few years, sadly no. There are reasons that are outside the scope of this forum but are basically financial. The piont is that the same way that our history and 3m fanatics helped chenque and el chino push 3 past you...it will hapen again. In these games, history counts a lot.

If not, why do you think that only 7 teams have won the WC in its histrory?
1 - England
1 - France
2 - Argentina
2- Uruguay
3 - Italy
3- Germany
5 - Brazil

Urguay comes in 5th because over a span of 18 mo. it is very difficult to create a team, train it, practice tactics, get it geled and working when the entire squad plays in europe. I understand that Croatia (for example) has this same problem, but one thing is a cup (elimination) format and another is 2 yrs of qualification.

You are judging Uruguay because of its 5th seed and ignoring everything else.

This is one of the reasons I think Uruguay wins:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=346077&root=europe&cc=5901

[uruguay]

you aussies are so lost....

[URUGUAY_RULES]

Tenías razón son of recoba...

Estos tipos están de vivos... yo pensé que no, pero el gil este de Serbia me sacó mal... Te juro que no puedo esperar para romperles el orto en Noviembre...

Me enteré por un amigo que están planeando llevar una bandera que diga Uruguay = U R gay, como dijo Homero en aquel capítulo de los Simpson que nos busca en el mapa y se caga de la risa... ( www.inthemix.com )

Me están viniendo ganas de zarparme con estos tipos que, en el fondo, no son más que una colonia británica... Acordate que todavía le chupan la pija a Isabel II (sino mirá lo que es su bandera)...

Vamos a tener que estar más unidos que nunca, por favor que los planchas se junten y les destuyan el avión en el aeropuerto... jajajaja... Un abrazo.

Aussies: prepare for your own Irak: November 16th: Uruguay invades Australia

[philipas]

Well well well, all these cocky Uruguayan guests in the Aussie forum...

You think it will be easy beating Australia? HAHAHAHAHA...

You're in for a rude awakening. :mad2:

[miladin]

So Australians speak English and Aboriginal Languages Miladin?

You say:

"well, we speak english and abororiginal! i bet you didnt know that one!~"

How "hilarious" :rolleyes: Not!! :mad2:
__________________

Now that u mention it-it's interesting that the Australian team doesn't have any aboriginal player.Or does it? What could be the reason? Give us some insight Miladin-please! :confused:

There isn't any player in the Australian team with Southamerican background either.Interesting indeed!

Maybe Uruguay Rules has the explanation.You said in other forum that aborigines in Australia have the same opportunities as everyone else. :confused: Maybe they don't like soccer. :confused:
Don't you know any player in Australia with aboriginal background or Uruguayan background good enough that could help the aussies Uruguay Rules? : :worried:
I do know good Southamerican aussies that could be in the Australian Team but they are not! :confused:

C'mon boys contribute with some brainy analysis! I'm willing to learn!
In soccer I am torn in my allegiance between Australia and Uruguay.. :confused: :worried: :sad: NOT!! :D

Vamo arriba Uruguay carajo! Que no ni no! :lol: :lol:


I think this is all getting a bit much for you.. u seem to be a bit confused? well from ur emoticons i can see that hahahha. Why would we want south americans in our team? and aboriginals do have rights, but it is very hard to make it to the national team, im sure they are playing the game though for fun, not everything is about being the best to some people.

But like *********** said.. 12th and 16th, the only dates YOU need to WORRY about hahahahhaha cya there sa puto :smoking:

[miladin]

Miladin: Please stop talking bulls*it in this forum, people in Serbia need you to support tyranic dictators like Slobodan Milosevic, or to kill people like you did in Srebrenica... you fu**ing murderers of innocent people, call your friends and start killing some muslims or croatians, that´s your number one sport in Serbia: cruel murder of civilians, women and children... that´s the only activity in which your country is the worldwide undisputed leader... and that´s not something to laugh about... in fact, you should be ashamed...

***********: No, we´ve never won a rugby World Cup or a cricket World Cup, but this forum is about soccer, so let´s talk about that...


man you are a fu*king arsehole. dont bring that fu*king shit here ok, i dont want to hear you talk shit about shit you dont know what your fu*king talking about.

one minute you give me that abuse.. the next you tell him that 'the forum is about soccer, so lets talk about that???"

you are scum, i hope your children are born walking in reverse you fkn pig.

[SiN]

times have changed since 2001 and i think that australia is a even stronger team now...australia will really show the world how capable they are, we have great players such as: Viduka, kewell, Emerton, breciano, aloisi etc etc...dont underestimate us because we have confidence and more fire power heading into the match, we beat england 3-1, jamaca 5-0 and many other countries with high scores...please dont turn this inot a hatred thread we shud all talk like humans not abuse each other

[SiN]

Come On Aussie Come Onnn!!!

[URUGUAY_RULES]

Miladin: I treat people the way they treat me.

You were making fun of my country and my countrymen here in the forum. I don´t think you´ve got the authority to do that. You said that serbians were pretty good in a lot of sports. I just remembered you one of them (Milosevic thinks of killing as a sport, and believe me, I know what I´m talking about, I´ve got croats ancestors and they have suffered serbian opression since ages).

I won´t bring up the subject anymore, but please show some respect for Uruguay and my countrymen. Take the example of ***********. He knows how to keep the discussion to the soccer issue and, like the turkish guy said, talk like human beings, "citizens of the world" if you prefer.

Let´s not follow the example of other forums where aussies and uruguayans are treating each other like cr*p. We are civilised people and I know we can get along pretty well. Afterall, we are both downunder countries, don´t we?

Greetings from Uruguay.

Aussies: Prepare for your own Irak. November 16th: Uruguay invades Australia

10.000 fans will make the Telstra Stadium look like our legendary Centenario!!!

[davor_suker]

Doesnt Walter Pizarro of Inter play for Uruguay too?

Personally I think Australia will struggle but its not beyond their reach. Australia will be outsupported in both Uruguay and Australia by their passionate supporters so I hope the team is prepared for this. Australians work very very well as a team, and I think its this spirit and the backing of the nation that could push them over the line. Australia will have to be aggressive and will need a bit of luck, and i predict this game will be very high scoring - 4-3 or something similar, both teams appear to be top heavy.

Earlier i read about some uruguay player starting for Real Madrid. That is false. Starting for Inter? They have perhaps the worst defence out of the top teams in serie A. Im not saying theyre bad players, but hey theyre not highly regarded.

The game will be won and lost in the midfield. This is thankfully Australias strong point. I want Kalac to start in goals, hes better than Schwarzer.

Good luck Australia, we will certainly need it. Make sure those who are privileged enough to go to the game scream their lungs out and take lots of photos. Be controversial, thats what we need for the game here.

[quenonino]

Where are my other messages?????????????
How tolerant and open minded are some "aussies" :redeyes:
If they cannot give good arguments then they shut people up!

C'mon "bad" aussies demonstrate your chivalry and sportmanship!!

And you call Uruguayan "thugs"!! Shame on you!

[davor_suker]

Where are my other messages?????????????
How tolerant and open minded are some "aussies" :redeyes:
If they cannot give good arguments then they shut people up!

C'mon "bad" aussies demonstrate your chivalry and sportmanship!!

And you call Uruguayan "thugs"!! Shame on you!

You said yourself that theyre going to teach us more than soccer, meaning theyre going to be thugs on the field, you said it mate not me.

[sonofrecoba]

Great player by the way.

Listen, the starter for Real Madrid is Pablo Garcia. He is the 5 (holding defensive midfielder) for Real Madrid. Check marca or as. He took Graveson's starting spot 2 games into the season.

Here is the list of role players and where they play:
GK
Carini - Cagliari - ITA
Def
Diogo - Real Madrid (sub) - SPA
Lopez -Cagliari - ITA
Lugano - Sao Paulo - BRZ
Montero - San Lorenzo -ARG
D.Rodriguez - Shcalke 04 - GER
G.Rodriguez - Atlas - MEX
Midfield
Varela - Schalke 04 (sub) - GER
Pousso - Danubio - URU
Garcia - Real Madrid - SPA
Delgado - Sparta - RUS
Regueiro - Valencia (sub) - SPA
Recoba - Inter (sub) - ITA
Olivera - Juventus (sub) - ITA
Nunez - Cruz Azul - MEX
Sanchez - Toluca - MEX
Forwards
Morales - Malaga - SPA
Forlan - Villarreal - SPA
Zalayeta - Juventus (sub) - ITA
Estoyanoff - Cadiz (sub) - SPA
Chevanton - Monaco - FRA


This is the core of players the coach uses. I tried to give you a sense also if they were regulars or not. I might be wrong on some (I dont think so as I follow their careers religously) but for sure Garcia is starter and the midfield general of RM.

[davor_suker]

Great player by the way.

Listen, the starter for Real Madrid is Pablo Garcia. He is the 5 (holding defensive midfielder) for Real Madrid. Check marca or as. He took Graveson's starting spot 2 games into the season.

Here is the list of role players and where they play:
GK
Carini - Cagliari - ITA
Def
Diogo - Real Madrid (sub) - SPA
Lopez -Cagliari - ITA
Lugano - Sao Paulo - BRZ
Montero - San Lorenzo -ARG
D.Rodriguez - Shcalke 04 - GER
G.Rodriguez - Atlas - MEX
Midfield
Varela - Schalke 04 (sub) - GER
Pousso - Danubio - URU
Garcia - Real Madrid - SPA
Delgado - Sparta - RUS
Regueiro - Valencia (sub) - SPA
Recoba - Inter (sub) - ITA
Olivera - Juventus (sub) - ITA
Nunez - Cruz Azul - MEX
Sanchez - Toluca - MEX
Forwards
Morales - Malaga - SPA
Forlan - Villarreal - SPA
Zalayeta - Juventus (sub) - ITA
Estoyanoff - Cadiz (sub) - SPA
Chevanton - Monaco - FRA


This is the core of players the coach uses. I tried to give you a sense also if they were regulars or not. I might be wrong on some (I dont think so as I follow their careers religously) but for sure Garcia is starter and the midfield general of RM.

No Pizarro?

What about Nelson Valdez does he ever get games for you guys? Hes young but hes pretty talented.

Thats one hell of an attack. I forgot all about Chevanton. Credit to you guys, 3.5 million people and to have such a team, you remind me of Croatia :ronaldo:

Chevanton is a little man but hes classy, Zalayeta is tough on the ball and has a great shot, whilst Forlan is just skillfull. Can you please post the starting team + formation?

Hows Montero going these days? I havent watched him since his Juve days. Does he last full games hes what now 35? Man was that guy hard on the tackle, he was like a Kevin Muscat, only good.

[sonofrecoba]

Pizarro from Inter is Chilean. 25 and he already quit the national team.

Valdez? No, there is a Carlos Valdez defender but I doubt you've seen him. Dont know who it could be.

Its funny you say about Croatia. In my mind I make the same comparison, and when we, Uruguayans, make excuses about the economy, or too many internationals or whatever...I think that Croatia probably has the same problems yet is a classy side.

Montero is in Argentina. He wanted to continue playing so he moved to ARG (San Lorenzo). He is the absolute leader of the team. Watch out for Lugano, a stud, he will take over as the defensive key for the next 10 yrs. Look for him to make a move to a big European club in December.

Starting Line-Up...this is the one he likes using, at home w/ no injuries:
AGGRESSIVE
Carini/Viera;
Diogo-Lugano-Montero-D.Rodriguez;
Varela-Garcia;
Recoba;
Forlan-Zalayeta-Morales
CONSERVATIVE
Carini/Viera;
Diogo-Lugano-Montero-D.Rodriguez;
Varela-Garcia-Reguiero;
Recoba;
Forlan-Zalayeta/Morales

Fossatti loves Chenque Morales. He is a bit clumsy but he fights like mad and can hold the ball or bring it down for the other forwards. For his height he is a bad header.

[miladin]

Miladin: I treat people the way they treat me.

You were making fun of my country and my countrymen here in the forum. I don´t think you´ve got the authority to do that. You said that serbians were pretty good in a lot of sports. I just remembered you one of them (Milosevic thinks of killing as a sport, and believe me, I know what I´m talking about, I´ve got croats ancestors and they have suffered serbian opression since ages).

I won´t bring up the subject anymore, but please show some respect for Uruguay and my countrymen. Take the example of ***********. He knows how to keep the discussion to the soccer issue and, like the turkish guy said, talk like human beings, "citizens of the world" if you prefer.

Let´s not follow the example of other forums where aussies and uruguayans are treating each other like cr*p. We are civilised people and I know we can get along pretty well. Afterall, we are both downunder countries, don´t we?

Greetings from Uruguay.

Aussies: Prepare for your own Irak. November 16th: Uruguay invades Australia

10.000 fans will make the Telstra Stadium look like our legendary Centenario!!!

yeah right u fkn piece of shit, il never forgive you for saying that shit. iknew u were a fkn ustasa. ur country is a piece of sh*TTTT U POOR FUK

[URUGUAY_RULES]

Davor_Suker: Nelson Valdez is Nelson Haedo Valdez, he plays for Werder Bremen in Germany, but he is from PARAguay, not URuguay... I understand your confusion, is very common... Pizarro, as son of recoba said, is from Chile... Go Hrvatska!!! I´ve got relatives there, near Zagreb, there are about 3.000 croats and croat descendants here in Uruguay, greetings!

Miladin: Relax man, what´s your problem this time? You and your serbians friends couldn´t rape a five year old muslim girl? Or is it that you couldn´t exterminate the ancient harmless people of a whole village in Croatia? Or maybe your relatives died trying to cross the Adriatic sea in a cheap boat when going to Italy to find a job as bathroom cleaners and so you´re pissed off, you poor underpaid innocent people killer?

Aussies: Prepare for your own Irak. November 16th: Uruguay invades Australia

[miladin]

Davor_Suker: Nelson Valdez is Nelson Haedo Valdez, he plays for Werder Bremen in Germany, but he is from PARAguay, not URuguay... I understand your confusion, is very common... Pizarro, as son of recoba said, is from Chile... Go Hrvatska!!! I´ve got relatives there, near Zagreb, there are about 3.000 croats and croat descendants here in Uruguay, greetings!

Miladin: Relax man, what´s your problem this time? You and your serbians friends couldn´t rape a five year old muslim girl? Or is it that you couldn´t exterminate the ancient harmless people of a whole village in Croatia? Or maybe your relatives died trying to cross the Adriatic sea in a cheap boat when going to Italy to find a job as bathroom cleaners and so you´re pissed off, you poor underpaid innocent people killer?

Aussies: Prepare for your own Irak. November 16th: Uruguay invades Australia

thats funny cos its not me that lives a 3 world piece of sh%t country ahhahaha i have more money than you.

u should be our slaves over here ahhaha ok. over it now :D

[chacal7]

Hello everybody. I see that most of you australians fans are talking about how much your team has improved their football since "that" game in 2001.
And that's fine. I mean, they better have! If no, what have you been doing these last four years! But anyway, don't you think that the uruguayan game has also improved? And believe me it has! In october 2004 we lost a match against Argentina, since then, besides one friendly match against Spain we haven't lost any other match for an entire year. And we have not played against Western Samoa or something like that. We have played against Bolivia at 3.600 meters height in La Paz and against Ecuador. We have beaten Paraguay, Colombia and Argentina and we should have beaten Brazil and we would have if it weren't for a lineman who didn't saw three brazilians players in offside.
Lads, we are talking about Brazil and Argentina! Brazil can not beat us since 1999. Brazil!!
Sometimes I would like to kill our coach, Fossati, but I have to proudly recognize that we have a world class team, that has nothing to do with the team that first started the word cup qualifiers.
I don't think that is going to be easy. I don't think that we are going to kick some serious kangaroos butts, but I really think that if these matches were played 10 times, at least 9 of them would end with an uruguayan victory.
I'm sorry, but I can not see a reality where we can be pulled out from the world cup by Australia. We have a much more better team than you guys. Talking about technics, experience, will, tradition and any other topic you want to talk about.
Sorry lads, it's just the way it is. Maybe in 2010 you can play against Chile, and they are not big deal. See yah...

[Milos_]

Davor_Suker: Nelson Valdez is Nelson Haedo Valdez, he plays for Werder Bremen in Germany, but he is from PARAguay, not URuguay... I understand your confusion, is very common... Pizarro, as son of recoba said, is from Chile... Go Hrvatska!!! I´ve got relatives there, near Zagreb, there are about 3.000 croats and croat descendants here in Uruguay, greetings!

Miladin: Relax man, what´s your problem this time? You and your serbians friends couldn´t rape a five year old muslim girl? Or is it that you couldn´t exterminate the ancient harmless people of a whole village in Croatia? Or maybe your relatives died trying to cross the Adriatic sea in a cheap boat when going to Italy to find a job as bathroom cleaners and so you´re pissed off, you poor underpaid innocent people killer?

Aussies: Prepare for your own Irak. November 16th: Uruguay invades Australia
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: this has the one of the stupidest things i have ever read,now go kill yourself :) ,im realy intrested to find out were you learned all those things about Serbs :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: o i wanna hear this

GO Australia

[URUGUAY_RULES]

Serbians (or cold blooded assasins if you prefer): the funny thing is that Uruguay is not a Third World country, in fact, all the economical rates show that we are a richer nation than Serbia. But that´s not something to be proud of... money is something that goes and comes, wealthy is not eternal...

However, values are something different... you either have them or not... and the most important value is life, the one that you killers never respected... another important value is tolerance, one that you´ll never have, as you think of different people as some kind of object that should be eliminated, and not as human beings...

So maybe you have more money than me (which is not true, but it could be someday, if you stop making weapons to kill bosnians and spend your resources in feeding your hungry people), but the whole world knows that you and your countrymen are one of the worst things that happened to humanity in the last century, with your slaughter of women and children throughout the 90´s, serving a cruel dictator like Milosevic and being proud of it... So don´t waste your time posting in this forum, you´ve got a job to do, a job in which your country is the worldwide undisputed powerhouse: massive murder of innocent people, endless rapes of girls and adult women, careless destruction of entire villages, etc.

You know this is the truth, that´s the reason why it hurts so much... as it hurts that Croatia is a far more civilsed country than Serbia... and with better soccer players too.

Aussies: Prepare for your own Irak. November 16th: Uruguay invades Australia

[Ravna Gora]

My mission in life now is to find you and personally kick the shit out of you for saying something in which you have no knowledge. You dumb villager dont you understand that you cant generalise like that??? I want AUSTRALIA TO WIN and they WILL WIN, if they dont Serbia will show u village idiots how to play FOOTBALL and we will beat u at least 2-0, as there is no chance for your shitty team to make it through our defense, and your defenders will give away one penalty because they are cheap faggots and also Kezman will put one more in the net to make you shut your village scum mouth.
GO AUSTRALIA, i will go to the game and support my 2nd country and make sure they leave u in ur shithole of a country, you dont deserve to see the beauty of Europe.
GO AUSTRALIA!!!!!!
Game 1: Aus 1 URUGAY 0 Aloisi 41'
Game 2: Aus 3 URUGAY0 anyone who wants to score will score as URUGAY is shit.

[AusFootball]

Who is the clown that said "stop talking about other stuff, only talk about soccer" yet Uruguay_Rules continues to set a bad example of the Uruguay people by bombarding the thread with insults. I wish it would stop, i really do.

Anyways back to the football - now I have done a bit of researching on Uruguay myself and have come across some valuable information that is very important - both for uruguay and Australia:

Point Number 1: Since the marathon, everybody-plays-everybody format was introduced for the 1998 qualifiers, Uruguay have played 27 World Cup matches away from home, winning only three. The conclusion is clear – and made more so by all that tiring travelling time between the two play-off matches; the pressure is really on Uruguay to build up a lead in Montevideo.

Point Number 2: Uruguay will be without three players in Montevideo. Midfield brawler Omar Pouso should not be missed, right sided flyer Gustavo Varela can be replaced. Lugano is the big loss. (He is suspended for the first leg)

Point 3: Montero and co. will struggle, with their age to play 2 games in three days.

Point 4: Javier Ernesto Chevanton, their undoubted star in the early rounds, has recently announced that he will not play under Fossati.
Diego Forlan, who pipped Chevanton to be the side’s top scorer in qualifying, made a similar declaration a few months ago, but was coaxed back. Montero was the same - the players obviously dont see eye-to-eye with your coach.

Point 5: Central midfielder Pablo Garcia is an excellent player, who positions himself well to win the ball, and tries to knit the side together with his cultured left footed passing. But there are times when he is clearly being asked to do too much.
Fossati admitted after the Argentina game that the balance in his midfield was not ideal, but added that the risk had to be taken because his side were chasing the game.
This, then, is a risk that will almost certainly present itself again in Montevideo, because Uruguay will surely be chasing the game once more.

Point six: The fullbacks Diogo and Rodriguez will be expected to push up - this in turn, may well create space on the wings - especially when Dieogo is a better attacker than he is defender

and all this talk about 10 000 there at Sydney - maybe 5 000 but Australia will overpower Uruguay anyways with the green and gold army!

[valdanito_10]

Some of you guys have to clearly change your behaviour.

this is a warning to all of you.

[davor_suker]

Davor_Suker: Nelson Valdez is Nelson Haedo Valdez, he plays for Werder Bremen in Germany, but he is from PARAguay, not URuguay... I understand your confusion, is very common... Pizarro, as son of recoba said, is from Chile... Go Hrvatska!!! I´ve got relatives there, near Zagreb, there are about 3.000 croats and croat descendants here in Uruguay, greetings!

Miladin: Relax man, what´s your problem this time? You and your serbians friends couldn´t rape a five year old muslim girl? Or is it that you couldn´t exterminate the ancient harmless people of a whole village in Croatia? Or maybe your relatives died trying to cross the Adriatic sea in a cheap boat when going to Italy to find a job as bathroom cleaners and so you´re pissed off, you poor underpaid innocent people killer?

Aussies: Prepare for your own Irak. November 16th: Uruguay invades Australia

Shit sorry thats my bad, pardon my ignorance i didnt really check up on it.

Miladin, show some class, not all Croats are Ustase. Also stop this third world bullshit when you clearly have no idea what youre talking about, if we compare Uruguay to Serbia -

Uruguay

GDP (purchasing power parity):
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/dictionary.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html#2001) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/listing.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2001.html) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/rankorder.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2001rank.html)
$49.27 billion (2004 est.) GDP - real growth rate:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/dictionary.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html#2003) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/listing.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2003.html) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/rankorder.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2003rank.html)
10.2% (2004 est.) GDP - per capita:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/dictionary.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html#2004) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/listing.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2004.html) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/rankorder.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html)
purchasing power parity - $14,500 (2004 est.)

Serbia

GDP (purchasing power parity):
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/dictionary.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html#2001) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/listing.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2001.html) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/rankorder.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2001rank.html)
$26.27 billion (2004 est.) GDP - real growth rate:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/dictionary.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html#2003) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/listing.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2003.html) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/rankorder.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2003rank.html)
6.5% (2004 est.) GDP - per capita:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/dictionary.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html#2004) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/listing.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2004.html) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/rankorder.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html)
purchasing power parity - $2,400 (2004 est.)


Look at that...Uruguay shits all over Serbia economically, so cut the bullshit please.

[miladin]

Shit sorry thats my bad, pardon my ignorance i didnt really check up on it.

Miladin, show some class, not all Croats are Ustase. Also stop this third world bullshit when you clearly have no idea what youre talking about, if we compare Uruguay to Serbia -

Uruguay

GDP (purchasing power parity):
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/dictionary.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html#2001) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/listing.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2001.html) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/rankorder.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2001rank.html)
$49.27 billion (2004 est.) GDP - real growth rate:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/dictionary.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html#2003) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/listing.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2003.html) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/rankorder.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2003rank.html)
10.2% (2004 est.) GDP - per capita:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/dictionary.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html#2004) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/listing.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2004.html) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/rankorder.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html)
purchasing power parity - $14,500 (2004 est.)

Serbia

GDP (purchasing power parity):
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/dictionary.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html#2001) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/listing.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2001.html) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/rankorder.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2001rank.html)
$26.27 billion (2004 est.) GDP - real growth rate:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/dictionary.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html#2003) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/listing.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2003.html) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/rankorder.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2003rank.html)
6.5% (2004 est.) GDP - per capita:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/dictionary.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html#2004) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/listing.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2004.html) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/graphics/rankorder.jpg (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html)
purchasing power parity - $2,400 (2004 est.)


Look at that...Uruguay shits all over Serbia economically, so cut the bullshit please.


man i have cro friends! and btw i live in australia.. but yeh i dont want to continue this shit... ok?

[miladin]

Who is the clown that said "stop talking about other stuff, only talk about soccer" yet Uruguay_Rules continues to set a bad example of the Uruguay people by bombarding the thread with insults. I wish it would stop, i really do.

Anyways back to the football - now I have done a bit of researching on Uruguay myself and have come across some valuable information that is very important - both for uruguay and Australia:

Point Number 1: Since the marathon, everybody-plays-everybody format was introduced for the 1998 qualifiers, Uruguay have played 27 World Cup matches away from home, winning only three. The conclusion is clear – and made more so by all that tiring travelling time between the two play-off matches; the pressure is really on Uruguay to build up a lead in Montevideo.

Point Number 2: Uruguay will be without three players in Montevideo. Midfield brawler Omar Pouso should not be missed, right sided flyer Gustavo Varela can be replaced. Lugano is the big loss. (He is suspended for the first leg)

Point 3: Montero and co. will struggle, with their age to play 2 games in three days.

Point 4: Javier Ernesto Chevanton, their undoubted star in the early rounds, has recently announced that he will not play under Fossati.
Diego Forlan, who pipped Chevanton to be the side’s top scorer in qualifying, made a similar declaration a few months ago, but was coaxed back. Montero was the same - the players obviously dont see eye-to-eye with your coach.

Point 5: Central midfielder Pablo Garcia is an excellent player, who positions himself well to win the ball, and tries to knit the side together with his cultured left footed passing. But there are times when he is clearly being asked to do too much.
Fossati admitted after the Argentina game that the balance in his midfield was not ideal, but added that the risk had to be taken because his side were chasing the game.
This, then, is a risk that will almost certainly present itself again in Montevideo, because Uruguay will surely be chasing the game once more.

Point six: The fullbacks Diogo and Rodriguez will be expected to push up - this in turn, may well create space on the wings - especially when Dieogo is a better attacker than he is defender

and all this talk about 10 000 there at Sydney - maybe 5 000 but Australia will overpower Uruguay anyways with the green and gold army!


nice post, go the green and gold!!!!!

[davor_suker]

man i have cro friends! and btw i live in australia.. but yeh i dont want to continue this shit... ok?

Ok peace man, i have nothing against Serbs so im obviously not an Ustase.

See you in Germany, both of us qualified top of our groups, quite an achievement. Im looking forward to being able to watch Zigic a bit, from what i hear hes class.

[philipas]

Who is the clown that said "stop talking about other stuff, only talk about soccer" yet Uruguay_Rules continues to set a bad example of the Uruguay people by bombarding the thread with insults. I wish it would stop, i really do.

Anyways back to the football - now I have done a bit of researching on Uruguay myself and have come across some valuable information that is very important - both for uruguay and Australia:

Point Number 1: Since the marathon, everybody-plays-everybody format was introduced for the 1998 qualifiers, Uruguay have played 27 World Cup matches away from home, winning only three. The conclusion is clear – and made more so by all that tiring travelling time between the two play-off matches; the pressure is really on Uruguay to build up a lead in Montevideo.

Point Number 2: Uruguay will be without three players in Montevideo. Midfield brawler Omar Pouso should not be missed, right sided flyer Gustavo Varela can be replaced. Lugano is the big loss. (He is suspended for the first leg)

Point 3: Montero and co. will struggle, with their age to play 2 games in three days.

Point 4: Javier Ernesto Chevanton, their undoubted star in the early rounds, has recently announced that he will not play under Fossati.
Diego Forlan, who pipped Chevanton to be the side’s top scorer in qualifying, made a similar declaration a few months ago, but was coaxed back. Montero was the same - the players obviously dont see eye-to-eye with your coach.

Point 5: Central midfielder Pablo Garcia is an excellent player, who positions himself well to win the ball, and tries to knit the side together with his cultured left footed passing. But there are times when he is clearly being asked to do too much.
Fossati admitted after the Argentina game that the balance in his midfield was not ideal, but added that the risk had to be taken because his side were chasing the game.
This, then, is a risk that will almost certainly present itself again in Montevideo, because Uruguay will surely be chasing the game once more.

Point six: The fullbacks Diogo and Rodriguez will be expected to push up - this in turn, may well create space on the wings - especially when Dieogo is a better attacker than he is defender

and all this talk about 10 000 there at Sydney - maybe 5 000 but Australia will overpower Uruguay anyways with the green and gold army! Good post Aus...you've given a much clearer picture of what is at hand.

[miladin]

Ok peace man, i have nothing against Serbs so im obviously not an Ustase.

See you in Germany, both of us qualified top of our groups, quite an achievement. Im looking forward to being able to watch Zigic a bit, from what i hear hes class.

yeh definately! should be good, and yeh zigic is good but kezman is better :D lol.. who r ur best players?

[davor_suker]

yeh definately! should be good, and yeh zigic is good but kezman is better :D lol.. who r ur best players?

Kezman gets on the scoresheet but technically Zigic is better.

Klasnic (8 goals already in bundesliga this season) Srna, Prso, Olic (before his knees went :sad: ) our best section would be defence, with Robert Kovac (Juve) SIMUNIC:D and Tomas. Tudor is also a gun but needs to get his career back on track.

[Ravna Gora]

from what i have seen Klasnic is a fantastic player, i havent seen much of Prso though, our best player is Zigic hands down

[davor_suker]

from what i have seen Klasnic is a fantastic player, i havent seen much of Prso though, our best player is Zigic hands down

Zigic has potential but he isnt your best, in my opinion your best player is Stankovic.

[sonofrecoba]

This post is about Uruguay-Australia. Europe has nothing to do with it.

Philipas,

Good Research. I'd like to address some of your points:
1) Since the 18 game format, Uruguay has had like 9 coaches. Look at Fossattis record since Copa America. The story goes like this:
- At the beginning of Qualifiers, we name a young coach with very ofensive-minded philosophy. Ends up playing w/3 in the back and naming a lot of friends from playing days, not necessarily the best at the positions. We lose 3-0 to Veni at home (after 3-4 games) and he is sacked.
- Fossatti grabs a hold of the reins. We lose 3-0 and 5-0 to PEru and Colombia as he clearly hasnt understood the team yet and also makes some bad decisions.
- Copa America gives him 1 mo to work with team. Since then, in official games we lost one game against ARG in BA (4-2). The rest we've been unbeaten.
- Don't compare an away let in Australia to the places we usually have to go. Barranquilla, Quito, La Paz are impossible due to weather and bullshit like this. Sao Paulo, BA and Asuncion are impossible due to strenght of squads. The only places one can seriously steal points are Santiago, Lima & Caracas. So, that record isnt the best indicator.
- The travelling b/w game 1 and game 2 will kill URuguay. But Australia has to do the same travelling. Since the majority of players on both sides play in europe, its a draw.

2) 3 missing players. I agree that Lugano is a loss. But if I have to have him for only 1 of the 2 games, I'd prefer it be in AUS. D.Rodriguez will probably tuck himself into his spot and G.Rodriguez will take the 'lateral' (dont know how to say it in english). Lugano is great, but in a final like this, its not make or break.

3) Montero, Chengue & D.Rodriguez are the oldest players. Montero is diesel. I agree though that that 2nd game will be tough...Luckily he is a player that relies 75% on the mental aspect. Chengue & D. Rodriguez are physically monsters and they shouldnt havd a problem. I have never seen them have a subpar performance physically w. the national side.

4) Chevanton is fantastic. He is not playing bec. Fossatti prefers Forlan, Zalayeta & Recoba. Chevanton fits in the mold of Forlan and in everyone's mind Diego is first choice.

He and Fossatti have cleared things up. But it doesnt matter for this game. He is not a top4 choice for the coach...given his tactics.

I disagree, one of teh beauties of Fossatti is the amount of importance he gives to the comradrerie in the group. That is why the Copa America helped. He brought Montero back out of retirement bec. he knew how important he is. There were a lot of internal struggles from the WC team that he had to resolve. Big task. So I would actually say, one of Fossatti's strengths is working the group.

5) No offense. One thing is being overextended against ARG, another against any other team. Not a slight on AUS. I don't think he is going to play the 4 attacking formation. He recently also said that if you analyze the ARG game, that set up worked well for only like 10 minutes in teh 2nd half. He put in Pousso in the 2nd half.

6) Remember, for the 1st round it will be G. rodriguez on the flank. What you say is true about every team that plays with 4 in the back. At home, any team w/ 4 defenders is expected to get projections form the flanks. The same will be said about AUS in the 2nd leg. Even more so if Monte. is an unfavorable score.

In general, these are the things that worry me about AUS:
- Pace. AUS is a European team in that sense. The pace creates two problems: (i) tags your defense w/ cards, (ii) presents opportunities in counter attack.
- Montevideo Fans: If you guys come liek a Bolivia and hang from the goalposts like vampires, the public and players may get impatient.
- Freak Goal:If you guys score in the first 30m off a freak goal. Here the players may lose focus.

The X factor is huge. Uruguay last time won because above everything else, they had their backs to the wall (given the 1-0 1st leg loss) and their spirit and the stadium atmosphere energized them. That same feeling can have a negative effect. But in general, Uruguayan teams respond very well against adversity. And especially so in an elimination format.

QUESTION: Granted, 4 yrs later, the AUS players wont get frazzled with the noise and what not. What about the pressure of taking over a game? Lets say the first leg ends 1-0 or 2-0 or somthing (I don't expect more). In AUS, you need to win the game. Something you are not used to at home. How will they (plyrs) handle that stress?

[Mirko Mandic]

Zigic has potential but he isnt your best, in my opinion your best player is Stankovic.
yeah Dejan is a true playmaker and ZIGIC is ONE TALL mofo, like he HUGE!
i think he 202cm(Peter Crouch is 197)
i consider him the Serb Ibrahimovic.

[stuglue]

Whoa this thread has thrown up some real venom!Anyway i see Uruguay drawing in Oz and winning at home.Australia as far as i am concerned HAD the good players 4 years ago and could'nt do it Kewell at Liverpool has been non-existent(injuries and no form)Viduka has been in and out of the Middlesborough team whilst David Moyes at Everton has had to rest Tim Cahill due to tiredness.Emerton at Blackburn is'nt the player that was at Feyenoord,Lucas Neill is just a cynical hack 'n'slash player.Guus Hiddink had 6 months continuous preparation with the Koreans,he won't get that with Australia.

[hardssa]

Whoa this thread has thrown up some real venom!Anyway i see Uruguay drawing in Oz and winning at home.Australia as far as i am concerned HAD the good players 4 years ago and could'nt do it Kewell at Liverpool has been non-existent(injuries and no form)Viduka has been in and out of the Middlesborough team whilst David Moyes at Everton has had to rest Tim Cahill due to tiredness.Emerton at Blackburn is'nt the player that was at Feyenoord,Lucas Neill is just a cynical hack 'n'slash player.Guus Hiddink had 6 months continuous preparation with the Koreans,he won't get that with Australia.
Even though we couldnt do it with them then you gotta look at the positives now. Bresciano, CULINA, Thompson in great form. Nows a better time than ever really. Better coaching, better cohesion between the players. This years the year.

And again lets keep abuse and swearing to an absolute minimum. :)

[miladin]

from what i have seen Klasnic is a fantastic player, i havent seen much of Prso though, our best player is Zigic hands down

he is better but wen ever kezman scores it gets me much more happy than anything! haha

[nachi88]

Davor_Suker: Nelson Valdez is Nelson Haedo Valdez, he plays for Werder Bremen in Germany, but he is from PARAguay, not URuguay... I understand your confusion, is very common... Pizarro, as son of recoba said, is from Chile... Go Hrvatska!!! I´ve got relatives there, near Zagreb, there are about 3.000 croats and croat descendants here in Uruguay, greetings!


Which Pizzaro are you talking of here. The Claudio Pizzaro of Bayern Munich is from Peru. nelson valdez of Werder Bremen is from Paraguay

[chacal7]

I'm in Montevideo and I'm reading in today's paper some things that this guy John O'neill, who seems to be the president of the australian federation has been saying. And believe me man, this sucks. How do you think you would be treated if you were going to play a definite match against, for example Italy or England or Argentina? And I'm not talking about a confederations cup or a friendly match. I'm talking about one position in the world cup! Now, without meaning to be disrespectful with all the aussies, this guy is an idiot. He has no clue on what he is talking about. Thats the best way to be sure that there is going to be a hostile enviroment in both matches. He is boiling too much water and the steam will burn him at some point!
We know about this. We have been playing football against other countries since 1901. The rivality we have against Argentina and Brazil is something completly beyond the understanding of a people who is just starting to enjoy professional football. He is doing the worst thing possible. If he continues with this behave I tell you for sure that the stadium will be a hell for your players.
Believe me, Australia has never played for something really important, and you don't know what a hostile crowd is. Trust me, you don't.

[Mirko Mandic]

Which Pizzaro are you talking of here. The Claudio Pizzaro of Bayern Munich is from Peru. nelson valdez of Werder Bremen is from Paraguay
dude the Pizzaro who play for Inter is from Chile.

[AusFootball]

Believe me, Australia has never played for something really important, and you don't know what a hostile crowd is. Trust me, you don't.

what are u talking about, our whole time since 1974 has been trying to qualify, which is something really important - and apparetly the crowd in Iran in 96 was worse than Montevideo but we got a draw over there.

I agree that John O'Neill shoulnt be talking too much about the treatment of the players as this will more likeley stir up the Uruguayan's, however, maybe some of his comments have been taken out of context in the press and at the end of the day all he is really asking is for some "fair play" between the two teams - not spitting on ppl at the airport. :boo:

[miladin]

hey "aus footbal" i dont know where to find any pictures of the crowd support for A-league but if you have some good pictures... of fans... come and post them at SCG forum.. under PHOTOS... everybody reading this site, wherever you are from... come and post also the fotos of the support for you team!

its good to have a look at how people from all over the world support their favourite teams! :ronaldo:

[quenonino]

URUGUAYOSSSSSSS!! PAREN LA MANO!!-No sigan dandole amunicion a estos individuos!-No den informacion sobre nada:Mira si todavia se avivan-nos descubren la estrategia y nos ganan! :lol: :lol: :lol:


En serio gente:Ya lei por alli que hay un espia chileno pasandoles todos los bemoles... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Y por que sera que un chileno quiera quedar bien con los aussies?? :loco:

Tambien lei a un hincha brasilero cantandoles la justa de lo que somos capaces y advirtiendoles que estan perdidos pero no dandoles informacion.

Si no conocen la "mentalidad" aussie muchachos mejor no entren en proveerlos con demasiados detalles:factor sorpresa que le llaman-suele dar resultado.

Que? Ahora vamos a pecar de ingenuos tambien???

[miladin]

URUGUAYOSSSSSSS!! PAREN LA MANO!!-No sigan dandole amunicion a estos individuos!-No den informacion sobre nada:Mira si todavia se avivan-nos descubren la estrategia y nos ganan! :lol: :lol: :lol:


En serio gente:Ya lei por alli que hay un espia chileno pasandoles todos los bemoles... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Y por que sera que un chileno quiera quedar bien con los aussies?? :loco:

Tambien lei a un hincha brasilero cantandoles la justa de lo que somos capaces y advirtiendoles que estan perdidos pero no dandoles informacion.

Si no conocen la "mentalidad" aussie muchachos mejor no entren en proveerlos con demasiados detalles:factor sorpresa que le llaman-suele dar resultado.

Que? Ahora vamos a pecar de ingenuos tambien???

hey man, its not cool to speak a diff language in another forum.....

im sure there are many others who speak all different languages and can do the same, but dont becuase this forum is AUSTRALIA... so it should be in english not spanish.

[sonofrecoba]

Para, loco. Si dependemos de un secreto de estado para pasar el repechaje estamos todos en bolas y mejor dedicarse a otra cosa.

Si Hiddink depende de un foro de futbol para recibir informacion sobre su adversario...es un pelotudo. Y ese Holandes no tiene un solo pelo de nabo.

Yo les digo lo que quieran...para eso esta el foro. Pero estoy tratando de sacarles el razonamiento sobe sus predicciones. PQ piensan que Viduka (un fracasado que no juega bien) va a complicar a tipos como Lugano o Montero cuando todos los fines de semana juegan contra cracks brasileros y argentinos.

Decirles que nos respeten y que somos charruas y todo eso no es pasarles secretos. Estamos reclamando el respeto que merece nuestra seleccion. Decirles que ponemos huevos y que en las justas sacamos chapa de campeon no es darles una ventaja.

Tranquilo loco. Disfruta que en un mes estamos en el mudial, papa!!

[Mirko Mandic]

Tranquilo loco. Disfruta que en un mes estamos en el mudial, papa!!

loco means crazy and mundial is hte WC im sure thats all i got lol.

[quenonino]

Tenes razon Sonofrecoba:Lo mio fue en joda...para aflojar la tension que me produce el ambiente que se respira aca en Australia y en este foro.

Si has leido alguna otra intervencion mia veras que coincido contigo.

Me gusta ver que se interesan y se calientan y por supuesto que su tecnico no es tan boludo como para informarse aca.Te digo mas..aca hay gente muy enterada de lo que es nuestro futbol y nuestro equipo;esos nos respetan y por supuesto que son los que asesoran al equipo australiano...pero por lo visto en este foro la mayoria habla porque les encanta hacerse ver.

Lo que no me banco es que se nos humille y estamos consiguiendo que por lo menos mas de algun cara de loco la pare o se entere de una buena vez de quienes somos y como somos!

Mira si no este tipo que me dice que no es cordial hablar en otro idioma..y bueh joderse y tomar quina que ellos tambien lo hacen....y ademas....Sabes las ganas que tengo de hablar en "uruguasssssho" che?...y de futbol! Hablar de futbol en Ingles para mi es un sacrificio---No me pega ni con cola-pa que te voy a mentir?:Donde viste un charrua chamuyando o gritando un gol en Ingles??? :red-card: :mad2:

Tranquilidad sobra pero me gustaria que les dieramos una leccion de futbol y de civismo ahi: Somos Uruguayos y a mucha honra! Y somos gente no basofia!-Como basofia se nos pinta!! y eso harta y frustra!

[quenonino]

Miladdin: I am sorry if I have offended your sensibility by speaking in Spanish with another person who also speaks Spanish----Uruguayans speak Spanish...did u know that? (my message was for some Uruguayans present in this forum)-
I agree with you that is not cool....not only is not cool in reality is not polite ...I would say that u would be right in affirming that is plainly rude! to speak a language when other people don't understand it.

I have commited another "sin":rudeness...and for that I say:"sorry"...

Notice though that I am not the only one...I haven't seen u complaining about other messages in other languages in this forum though...so..."2 wrongs don't make a right" ;) Let's agree to disagree or apply the same criteria to everybody not only to Uruguayans..(Spanish Speakers)

Allow me the freedom to communicate in my own language in a forum where we are discussing my country of origin-at least to communicate with my
fellow countrymen.

And no !!here we are not in Australia!! We are in an Australian forum but we are using the internet.....and some participants in this forum are not in Australia.

Do the rules of this forum prohibit the use of a language that is 'foreign ge" to aussies??? If so let me know! I wouln't like to be sued or sent to jail for that! or again be labelled as a 'thug" or part of the "mob" ;)

Ole ole ole! Viva la vida loca! Bet u know that one...or "arriba arriba" andale andale...or our name: U-are-gay.. (made in North-America where they speak English).......In short: if u can learn things to insult us u could learn more to end the Myths u believe in...understand us....and could stop WHINGING!

Kind regards mate!

[chacal7]

"Tranquilidad sobra pero me gustaria que les dieramos una leccion de futbol y de civismo ahi: Somos Uruguayos y a mucha honra! Y somos gente no basofia!-Como basofia se nos pinta!! y eso harta y frustra!"


Dales un mes y despues miralos por arriba del hombro, fiera.

URUGUAY CARAJOOOO!!!!

[miladin]

Miladdin: I am sorry if I have offended


(thankyou)

ej its cool ur forgiven.. but you can prob send him a private msg..

its better dont you think... if we can all discuss matters and everybody is envolved... thats why its a forum.. not a private discussion in code language lol.

:ronaldo: but i wasnt just saying it to you, sorry mate.

[miladin]

Miladdin: I am sorry if I have offended your sensibility by speaking in Spanish with another person who also speaks Spanish----Uruguayans speak Spanish...did u know that? (my message was for some Uruguayans present in this forum)-
I agree with you that is not cool....not only is not cool in reality is not polite ...I would say that u would be right in affirming that is plainly rude! to speak a language when other people don't understand it.

I have commited another "sin":rudeness...and for that I say:"sorry"...

Notice though that I am not the only one...I haven't seen u complaining about other messages in other languages in this forum though...so..."2 wrongs don't make a right" ;) Let's agree to disagree or apply the same criteria to everybody not only to Uruguayans..(Spanish Speakers)

Allow me the freedom to communicate in my own language in a forum where we are discussing my country of origin-at least to communicate with my
fellow countrymen.

And no !!here we are not in Australia!! We are in an Australian forum but we are using the internet.....and some participants in this forum are not in Australia.

Do the rules of this forum prohibit the use of a language that is 'foreign ge" to aussies??? If so let me know! I wouln't like to be sued or sent to jail for that! or again be labelled as a 'thug" or part of the "mob" ;)

Ole ole ole! Viva la vida loca! Bet u know that one...or "arriba arriba" andale andale...or our name: U-are-gay.. (made in North-America where they speak English).......In short: if u can learn things to insult us u could learn more to end the Myths u believe in...understand us....and could stop WHINGING!

Kind regards mate!


btw you can tell everyone what you were saying in short if you want....

maybe see if we agree with you...

or are you scared of the aussies ripping you up! haha :blabla:

[chacal7]

Last FIFA ranking:


URUGUAY - 17
SERBIA - 42
AUSTRALIA - 54

luck in a battery (suerte en pila)

[AusFootball]

FIFA rankings mean nothing - especially in one off qualifying matches. The weird thing is that we just beat Jamaica 5-0 who are or at least were ranked above us, yet we still go down 4 places.

[chacal7]

***********: you're missing the big picture here. Of course it's a big matter to go the the world cup. But do you think that we remember that match in 2001 when we fairly kicked your ass, as a hughe milestone in uruguayan football history?
NO!!!
It is not a great achievement of our football. It's just what we are supposed to do!!!

WE HAVE TO PLAY THE WORLD CUP!! WE DEMAND THAT TO OUR PLAYERS!!! THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BEAT AUSTRALIA JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE URUGUAYANS AND ARE WEARING AN SKY-BLUE SHIRT

Imagine this picture, and of course I know that you would prefer Australia to go to the wc, but just imagine that the two games come to be the best two the games in history of the sport. Imagine that both teams plays with guts and passion, with lots of goals situations and at the end Uruguay wins the key by a minnimum difference and doing a desperate defence up to the last minute.
Woudn't you be proud of your NT effort? Woudn't they deserve your applause? Wouldn't you think that you have won the respect of your rivals?

Well man, we wouldn't.
Imagine the picture the other way around, with Australia winning after a superb match with a great effort of the uruguayan players. Well that sucks and it doesn't matter at all how well they might have played if they don't win at the end.

Ausfoo man, there is no way to you and me think about what's important or not in the same way, when talking about football. It has to do with the 4 starts stamped in our sky-blue shirt.

And btw when the appropiate ocassion comes we smoke really good stuff down here.
Bye.

[Ravna Gora]

Last FIFA ranking:


URUGUAY - 17
SERBIA - 42
AUSTRALIA - 54

luck in a battery (suerte en pila)

SERBIA, directly qualified to the WC. Uruguay, has to play against countries from other continents as they werent good enough in their own. End of story, rankings dont mean shit. If Serbia is ranked so low, you would expect Spain to have qualified ahead of us wouldnt you??? Well look where Spain is now :lol:

[URUGUAY_RULES]

The guys at the FFA are talking way too much... it will be worst for them... it won´t be like a peaceful cricket game here in Centenario, believe me...

Miladin: You cut the crap not because you wanted to, because you didn´t have anything else to say... so stay silent and listen to the masters of the game, that´s the only way to learn...

The other serbian guy: I´ll be expecting you, but try to come down here on a plane, not in a cheap boat like your poor Adriatic sea-crossers relatives, remember how they ended up. And also remember this: we are not harmless albanese four year old girls for you to rape, we know how to defend ourselves.

***********: Mind your own business. This is between the serbians and me. I respect you, so respect me, and please stay out of this.

If you guys don´t like the fact that we post in Spanish, there´s nothing we can do about it... it´s our first language, so we can use it between us... Besides, who said English is the international official language? Come on, we are not talking code language, it´s just spanish, relax.

Vamo arriba Uruguay hermano, vamo a llevar a la Celeste al Mundial de nuevo, está duro hablar de "fubol" en inglés, si a estos giles no les gusta el español que se jodan... va a estar duro contra Australia, tengo miedo de que la presión de la gente acá nos juegue en contra, pero confío a muerte en este plantel y sobre todo en la gente... Me cansé, ya no voy a hablar en uruguayo, voy a empezar a hablar en plancha, eguro muclaco, más firmamento, arrancandonga palas casas los serbios estos, vamo a comer esos canguro el 12 que están a la mano muñaño. Saludos a todos compatriotas, cada vez que los leo da orgullo ser uruguayo, cómo defienden al pago a muerte, en donde sea y contra quien sea dejando bien en el alto el nombre del país... Un fuerte abrazo.

Translation:

Aussies: Prepare for your own Irak. November 16: Uruguay invades Australia.

You didn´t sell us the tickets... you forced us to invade the stadium... you were the ones that wanted things to be this way... believe me... 1.000 tickets is not enough for us...

[philipas]

The guys at the FFA are talking way too much... it will be worst for them... it won´t be like a peaceful cricket game here in Centenario, believe me... Oooh intimidation. We can handle it.

Miladin: You cut the crap not because you wanted to, because you didn´t have anything else to say... so stay silent and listen to the masters of the game, that´s the only way to learn...

The other serbian guy: I´ll be expecting you, but try to come down here on a plane, not in a cheap boat like your poor Adriatic sea-crossers relatives, remember how they ended up. And also remember this: we are not harmless albanese four year old girls for you to rape, we know how to defend ourselves. No need to talk shit like this coward... :boo: Yeah, real tough on an internet forum.

***********: Mind your own business. This is between the serbians and me. I respect you, so respect me, and please stay out of this. No, you mind your own business and stop bringing irrelevant shit into it. You earn respect when you talk like a man, not a :baby:

If you guys don´t like the fact that we post in Spanish, there´s nothing we can do about it... it´s our first language, so we can use it between us... Besides, who said English is the international official language? Come on, we are not talking code language, it´s just spanish, relax.. Well go to a Spanish-speaking forum then. You won't be missed from here.

Vamo arriba Uruguay hermano, vamo a llevar a la Celeste al Mundial de nuevo, está duro hablar de "fubol" en inglés, si a estos giles no les gusta el español que se jodan... va a estar duro contra Australia, tengo miedo de que la presión de la gente acá nos juegue en contra, pero confío a muerte en este plantel y sobre todo en la gente... Me cansé, ya no voy a hablar en uruguayo, voy a empezar a hablar en plancha, eguro muclaco, más firmamento, arrancandonga palas casas los serbios estos, vamo a comer esos canguro el 12 que están a la mano muñaño. Saludos a todos compatriotas, cada vez que los leo da orgullo ser uruguayo, cómo defienden al pago a muerte, en donde sea y contra quien sea dejando bien en el alto el nombre del país... Un fuerte abrazo.

Translation:

Aussies: Prepare for your own Irak. November 16: Uruguay invades Australia.

You didn´t sell us the tickets... you forced us to invade the stadium... you were the ones that wanted things to be this way... believe me... 1.000 tickets is not enough for us... You're arrogant and cocky...

What if you lose? You're going to look foolish as well. :caked:

Don't speak too soon hombre... :mad2:

[miladin]

Oooh intimidation. We can handle it.
No need to talk shit like this coward... :boo: Yeah, real tough on an internet forum.
No, you mind your own business and stop bringing irrelevant shit into it. You earn respect when you talk like a man, not a :baby:
Well go to a Spanish-speaking forum then. You won't be missed from here.
You're arrogant and cocky...

What if you lose? You're going to look foolish as well. :caked:

Don't speak too soon hombre... :mad2:

thankyou.. you are on noones side in this forum and even you think this guy is a DI#KHEAD

[philipas]

thankyou.. you are on noones side in this forum and even you think this guy is a DI#KHEAD No, I'm on Australia's side and yes, he's sfn's biggest...

[VietnameseAussi]

yup! =]

well... at least u guys dont see any aussies saying we will trash uruguay or anything.... saying we will 'invade' uruguay or any crap like that!

well... go australia! =]...

[quenonino]

That is true VietnameseAussie:

We do not see HERE in this forum any "aussie"(what background are we talking about here? just for the sake of argument) saying Australia is going to invade Uruguay or crap like that...which is healthy because with all the crap some Australians continue giving Uruguayans in the papers-news etc etc ..we UruguayanAussies are getting fed up!!---------Talking about intimidation...and creating a hostile atmosphere for the games...here and there in Uruguay...

In Uruguay people read the Australian newspapers u know? and many people have cable TV...so...there are ways and ways of intimidating -provoking and abusing people.It's no good news mate.

I hope we will have something to celebrate and not to regret.After all we are talking about sports not about politics.(but politics and other interests usually spoil everything!)

By the way VietnameseAussie...Have u watched the news lately?

There was a rally of AsianAussies demonstrating against racist remarks made about the way they drive..(apparently it was stated AsianAussies can't drive)

The pancards read :"Don't be Racist"...What is your opinion if u have one?

I know we are supposed to be discussing soccer and soccer only but...I take the opportunity if u don't mind me asking about that one.(just in a break from soccer..for a few minutes :)

You said that some Uruguayan talk crap....some do indeed...

Was that rally crap in your view?

[quenonino]

Chacal7!! : :lol: Te juro que hacia tiempo y no me reia tanto de esto que posteaste:Nooo no del ranking pero de tu traduccion de suerte en pila juaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

I'm telling Chacal7 that he made me laugh so hard he wouln't have an idea...
The poor thing tried to be polite and translated our slang expression of :"Good luck"(piles of luck as "luck in a battery"----That for me was hilarious!! I don't know if we share the same sense of humour but the translation is for me hilarious!! :lol:

Last FIFA ranking:


URUGUAY - 17
SERBIA - 42
AUSTRALIA - 54

luck in a battery (suerte en pila)----This is the Riplay!! for the Guinness World Records! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey Chacal..jugale a la quiniela! :lol: por ahi le embocas!! el 17 es mi numero de suerte asi que metelo a la cabeza :lol: :lol: No sabes como timbean aca--estos foros sirven para apostar (loteria deportiva) no te creas y estos muchachos no pierden oportunidad de hace guita....Si queres hacemos un pozo comun...yo pongo la apuesta y nos llenamos che.

I'm talking about bets now...Sports lottery bettings....We might get rich..who knows.. :shocked: :lol:

[VietnameseAussi]

hrmm! damn.. well i havent watched the news lately, been only too busy revising for my exams~ and... watching the sports news instead~ anyways~... well yeah it does offend me... but hrmm~ i dont know what to saY~ lol~ I think they only predict that by the crash tolls~ and maybe a majority of those happen to be asian! since... there are alot of asians that drag and all.. and end up crashing.. bleh.. i dont know.. i know they shouldnt say things like that though..!

but.. yeah back to soccer~ hrmmm shouldnt be too confident saying uruguay will win that easy though, can u imagine how bad it would be for u if australia won? tell me... if australia did win, would u support them? this is to all u uruguayans~

[sonofrecoba]

We're cocky?

We are saying Uruguay will win a soccer game. We are givin our arguments. We are consistent.

You, the austalians, are:
- Serbians & Vietnamese that are attacking URguauy as a world power. Miladin, this is Australia-Uruguay mate, Serbia has nothing to do with this. Where do you think uruguayans came from? Thin air? I have Portuguese, Spanish & German blood...do you want me to be a Figo, Raul & Ballack fan? Or do you want me to say that Germany is better than Serbia?

Man, Serbians should love us. WE are the ultimate underdog story and all small countries should respect us and hope to emulate us. We should be friends. Instead you shit on us. So ***k you. Go watch premiership and think Kezman is the next maradona.

- You are attacking us calling us thugs. VietnameseAussie, didnt' you post that article of the AUS reporter saying it was bullshit. Like I said before, if a guy like Viduka gets intimidated by a pack of 12yr olds spitting...he has worse problems than going or not going to the WC

- I am starting to get pissed off. You guys are saying...'won't you be mad when we win'...and I have yet to hear how you guys plan to win when you have:
- 2stars on the decline (viduka /kewell)
- your moral captain crying bec. he wont make the game (moore)
- a part-time coach that has nothing to lose, if he doesnt make the WC he'll just go snorkling in the carribean.
- your only striking threat a 3rd rate player on a small spanish team (Aloisi) who used to be the SUB for a player on our team
- no history or track record
- A diminishing premium over shitty teams as you don't score 30-2 like you used to

So...can some australian use his ***king brains and stop talking giberish...

Uruguayos - Estos kanguros me estan rompiendo los huevos mal. Resulta que nosotros somos los agrandados cuando ellos se la pasan hablando de que nosotros somos indios y no que nuestra sociedad es un amugre. Mira lo chivados que quedaron que ni empezo el partido y ya no tiraron dos lanzas:
- No adelantaron el partido
- Se cagaron en los URU-Australianos