I'd like to know this as well.

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

Why this is allowed?

And Nachi, if you didn't want to bring me into this then you shouldn't have mentioned my name and said lies about me. Now answer the questions Nachi. Why are you lying about another member just because you don't like his debate or topics? Why have YOU started up again with him? Do you think everyone on this forum is a fool and can't see through your lies? You shouldn't have lied about me either.


w/e lady, ur hollow words dont mean anything. I havent been dishonest. It is
soccerates who has. I didnt call his family a mafia..

Hollow words? Like when you call someone racist with no quotes or links whatsoever. This is the fourth time someone has asked you to prove it with something real, instead of cheap rhetorical tricks. And you won't do it? Why is that? Because you are lying? :rolleyes:

What I'd like to know is why is Nachi88 allowed to racially insult someone then deny it blatantly and call the person he just racially insulted a racist? I'd like to know:

Why Nachi can deny saying this over and over when the proof is in his very words?
"if i have to swear at u.. like im doing now.. i dont shit talk ur whole ***king mafia family... i just shit talk u." (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=493299&postcount=124)

And don't go and try to edit it out now, because I have saved it just in case. And I'm complaining about your behavior. I don't like your defamation campaign to include MY NAME! If you didn't want me involved you shouldn't have lied about me! So, if you go edit it out now you'll prove to everyone even more how dishonest you are.

Well there it is. Now you are again lying below when you said you'd never do that. Either you are completely out of your mind, or you have no problem defaming someone. Either way, that's sick behavior.

Denying this again Nachi88?!? That's disgusting, and insultive, and i don't like being brought into your discussions with your defamation of me. So don't mention my name again.


i said i wouldnt do that. I never will. Its a fact about me.

But he did say some derogatory terms about my mom, and that was not appreciated or required. maybe, its ok for u, if ur freind does it. Its not ok, for the reciever.

This is another lie. I remember that discussion perfectly well. He never said
anything derogatory about your mom.

Here is what he actually said, which you tried to twist around. THAT'S COLD AND DISHONEST OF YOU NACHI!:

"Maybe get your mommy to warm you up a glass of milk. Go whine in the other threads." (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=476818&postcount=221)

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=476845&postcount=225

You are purposefully tring to defame him by pretending that it is an insult on your mom when everyone and their dog knows that it is not, it's about you. He, and I, think you are a baby and whiner.

Even Dutchfan (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=476905&postcount=231) and The Italian Bull (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=476915&postcount=233) realized the meaning that you are trying to twist around. Aren't you the slight bit emberrased about it?
Are you going to false accuse them of being Soccerates too, like you did with me just because I happen to agree with him about this.

I take you calling him a racist seriously, because I know what has happened to one of his friends regarding racial issues, and that I AM A COLORED BRAZILIAN FEMALE and have been subjected to everyday racialy undertones as well. Let's see your links for his racist remarks. Otherwise for the sake of this forum, why don't you come clean and stop lying for pete's sake?!?


You didnt answer my question?- how are maxim gerrard and crispy cutter.
I left u out of it, but u are passing judgements on me.

I'm passing judgements on YOUR behavior. But don't make me drag out the link where you DID include me. You did this to yourself. You made your bed, now sleep in in hunny! I don't like your behavior, but I doubt that you're always this dishonest. If you are, then you have problems!

Maxim Gerrad and Crispy Critter - I don't use those accounts, I settled on this one. Does that satisfy you now, enough to stop bothering other people false accusations, lies, defamation, and all other sorts of maniacal behavior?

[wolverine]

Needs To Be Closed A.S.A.P

[MarieL]

Okay, nachi can answer this, but I'm expecting something positive instead of negative and if that's not what I get, this thread is gone too.

[soccerates]

Well I'm not going to insult here, but I've been waiting for Nachi to back up those very large accusations about me too. Nachi, I am awaiting some sort of explanation.

[Toke-E-Yo]

I think that this seems just like a witch hunt against Nahi. He is a respectable poster, and i dont see why he would just attack someone unless he is attacked first. I have noticed mnay ppl have gone off edge starting to get tired of this forum, and takes constant risks insulting ppl, and other ban-able offnces. we need to a huge cleanup of this forum, and Omar isnt here to do it.

[soccerates]

Instead of making guesses, why don't you read the whole posting and the links in full and then answer the question as to why Nachi has slandered me with false accusations? He brough RRulz into the fold himself by accusing her of being me, but MarieL can tell you both (and anyone else who cares) that this is not the case. So as she said "he made his bed", and all three of us want an explanation for him calling me a racist and lying about me insulting his mother. Also, I've never used the sort of derogatory insults that he saw fit to use against me. Those are his actions and he needs to be respondible for them.

So at least have the respect of reading in full before commenting.

[Toke-E-Yo]

well there also must be a reason Nachi was chosen as a MOD and not you? no?

[Toke-E-Yo]

***K OFF!!

I never shit talked your family...why don't you post the link you ***king disgrace of a lying little puke? Seriously you dumb shit! I said to go back to your mommy and get her to make you a bottle of milk because you were acting like a baby. I never had any idea that your mother had passed, so it's not SHIT TALKING YOUR FAMILY you lying scum. I even pm'd you and explained that I wouldn't do that, and even Dutchfan and two other posters realized that it wasn't the case. You're such a manipulative little jerk off trying to paint me with that one...go rot.

If I'm a bastard for something you made UP, then what does that make you? A SCUMBAG!! now ***K OFF.

u also said this, right? lets just leave it at ur both wrong. now close this thread

[SiN]

nice to see that everyone is getting along :D

[Lance Knight]

u also said this, right? lets just leave it at ur both wrong. now close this thread
exactly i mean he is doing like he hasnt said anything

and Ronaldinho Rulz how the hell u come into this,

[soccerates]

u also said this, right? lets just leave it at ur both wrong. now close this thread

Yes I did because Nachi seems to believe it is alright to spread lies about me. It get's tiresome after a while. He did that, I believe, because I won't succumb to his extortion tactics and answer his question which is perfect TROLL bait since he can answer it himself. He wanted it to degenerate. And telling him to ***k off for lying is hardly as bad as being racially insulted and called a ***king ape incessantly. He brought it upon himself.

[soccerates]

exactly i mean he is doing like he hasnt said anything

and Ronaldinho Rulz how the hell u come into this,

Can't you bloody well read anything properly? Nachi mentioned her name and accused her of being me. MarieL has already cleared up that situation, and acknowledges that we use two seperate IP's. It's Nachi's way of trying to smear me just because he can't win an argument.

Nevertheless, you're questioning of her is ironic since YOU posted in the other thread that Nachi started flaming me and IB in without being drawn into it. So what gives you the right, if you think RR has none?

[soccerates]

well there also must be a reason Nachi was chosen as a MOD and not you? no?

What does that have to do with anything? And what have you got to say about a mod that breaks the rules so blatantly like that? Not a good way of setting an example now is it? :nono:

[EASports]

hahaha this is funny

Soccerates was at work today but hanging to get home so he could make a post. :lol:

BTW I know a bloke who does knee reconstructions cheap...PM me :p

[soccerates]

In this part of the world, it's not day time at the moment. And it was something like 12 hours between postings?

But anyhow, I had to rush from work....to soccer (indoor)....I get away from the computer, unlike you :heh: Sadly we lost...us geriatrics lost to kids your age probably (1st loss this season of 4 games) :sad: two things though:

1 - We made the ball move for us and had immense pressure in their end, while all they did was chase
2 - their goalie was phenomenal....ours wasn't. He robbed me from point blank. World Class, hehe
3 - Each time he made a save, he'd try to hoof it up to one of their ringers who friggen scored from something like 20 meters out 3X...yikes.

But that's the nature of playing for real, and not on your xbox ;)

And we'll crush them in the return leg when our real goalie is back! :evil:

[xXxI_HATE_UxXx]

:lol:

[Becks]

MY GOD! WE REQUESTED THAT YOU PEOPLE STOP, BUT YOU JUST CAN'T SEEM TO LISTEN!!! THE MATTER IS FINISHED!

Ronaldinho, consider this your warning!

[MarieL]

I'm opening this so we can finish this once and for all, but if I see a single insult or a swear word or any unpleasentness I'll close it again.

[soccerates]

Listen up Nachi88. I know we've had disagreements in the past but in our last one you have repeated ad nauseum some things about me that are NOT true, and I'd like for you to either ante-up and provide some facts, or retract what you have said and not delineate to those sorts of tactics again. I'll say this in point form:


1) I am not RRulz and those other names you have accused me of making are not mine. Understood? I have no multiple ID's that I troll this forum with, or engaged in poll cheating. It is why I made that last one public, so you can't accuse me of this again.

2) I have never been racist towards YOU or anyone else, but you have been towards me. Why are you denying this?

3) I never insulted your mother, so I'd appreciate if you stop saying this because it only works to increase tension on this forum. Please stop doing that and come to terms with what I really said. The original comment was about YOU not her or any member of your family.

4) If you cannot debate anything I have to offer in a rational and honest manner, then don't bother following up any of my postings.

5) If I refuse to answer your question on statistics because I know you are capable of figuring it out for yourself, then take it as that.

Lastly, for the good of everyone on this forum please come clean with your allegations of me, or in the very least refrain from making dishonest comments about me again.

Thank you, and now back to more fruitful topics.

Soccer-a-tease - a little teasing never hurt anyone Nachi! ;)

[MarieL]

Okay, now we are getting somewhere.
The factual information in the post above is correct. Nachi, if you want to respond then please do, if you have nothing to say then this matter is resolved.

[nachi88]

Listen up soccerates-

1) I was totally on topic in the 'la liga vs serie a' thread. I asked you a querry on what you had posted, you chose not to answer, and instead made some provocative statements, which I ignored twice, but then had enough of. Your refusal to answer it is fine( especially if you dont know what u've posted), but no need to reply with provocative nonsense.

2) Dont claim to rational and most of all honest, becuase you are not. Your flaw in ading up statistics has been pointed out to you 5 times in mannschaft vs azzuri thread. You, like everyone else make mistakes. Eat the humble pie.

3) Your selective vision conveniently leaves out the outright racist comments made by ur freind IB. Try and broaden your vision.

4) Your calling me names like - gay, rionche,etc are all untrue, and you owe me an apology.

If a little teasing never hurt, why make such a hue and cry over it.. why have ur 'freind' RRulz open many threads in your defense. Attorney?

Lastly, just hit the ignore button, its simpler that way. And do not tell me what is good or bad for this forum. I am very well capable of understanding that myself, and have been around longer than you have.

Thats all I have to say on this matter. No more replies to you, regardless of what you reply.

[nachi88]

Okay, now we are getting somewhere.
The factual information in the post above is correct. Nachi, if you want to respond then please do, if you have nothing to say then this matter is resolved.

What????? If I dont respond then this is settled, and if I respond this is not settled?

The factual information accoring to me should not change over time. If I remember right, just some days ago, you were claiming the opposite of the current 'factual' information to be true.

Thats all I have to say for now.

[MarieL]

What????? If I dont respond then this is settled, and if I respond this is not settled?

The factual information accoring to me should not change over time. If I remember right, just some days ago, you were claiming the opposite of the current 'factual' information to be true.

Thats all I have to say for now.
I was not claiming the opposite, I said I don't know. Well now I do and if you refuse to believe me then that's your problem.

And whether you had responded or not this would have been settled anyway, but thank you for responding.

Now... I see you both owe the other one an apology and since neither one is going to apologize, in a million years, why don't we just leave it at that.
We all make mistakes.

[valdanito_10]

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[Ronaldinho Rulz]

If a little teasing never hurt, why make such a hue and cry over it.. why have ur 'freind' RRulz open many threads in your defense. Attorney?

I'll answer the one about me since it's about me. Yes he is my friend and for good reason, and I opened the thread in his defense because what I saw was a very very poor attempt to ruin someone's reputation and characte, by you. Soccerates can and did insult you in many ways, and you to him. You took it to another level by lying about him being racist, lying about him making comments about your family, and finally lying about him and I being the same person after it had been explained to you a dozen times. I would have let him handle it fine, since he is obviously capable if you didn't mention my name. BUT YOU DID. SO I RESPONDED! Do you understand now? He can answer the rest, but I'd still like to know if you're ever going to produce evidence of these racist comments you said he made or going to finally admit it was total bs on your part? Both of you used unkind words and I recall Soccerates warning you that it was going to get ugly when you kept persisting on him answering your question when he said you already knew it. It's his right to not answer your question and if he wants to provoke you, who says you have to bite? I hardly bite at his teasing me about Ronaldinho or Ronaldingo as he calls it. So why are you blaming anyone else for your own replies to him? Don't do it if you don't like the interaction. One last thing, why are you complaining about me coming to his aid when you've had two others come to your aid here who were never mentioned? At least my name was mentioned, and it was mentioned by you, so please keep my name out of it and don't act like a saint either because you are mocking me in your pm's to me and even slightly in your message. Then you truly do get upset when someone mentions that behavior. Do you understand any of this, or can I expect some sort of rude response back?

[Mirko Mandic]

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the point of 8 links to same place is?
myb making it bigger size and font would have helped

[valdanito_10]

the point of 8 links to same place is?
myb making it bigger size and font would have helped
:D

Im just triying to gte a point across, Im sorry you wasted your time opening all of them... and i know you did :lol:

[Mirko Mandic]

the point of 8 links to same place is?
myb making it bigger size and font would have helped
Soccerates can and did insult you in many ways

is that say that Soc is above the law??
or did i read it wrong or is it a typo....

please explain (not taking at shot at anyone)

[Mirko Mandic]

:D

Im just triying to gte a point across, Im sorry you wasted your time opening all of them... and i know you did :lol:
i opend 2 then relised all had the same same on your post lol

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

is that say that Soc is above the law??
or did i read it wrong or is it a typo....

please explain (not taking at shot at anyone)

Please do not take my comments out of their full context because it changes their meaning. The full comment was:


Soccerates can and did insult you in many ways, and you to him. You took it to another level by lying about him being racist, lying about him making comments about your family, and finally lying about him and I being the same person after it had been explained to you a dozen times

and I do believe it explains itself just fine. If you really don't understand it's saying that I am not denying that Soccerates insulted Nachi. On the contrary it's quite obvious that it was not as ugly and it did not include anything racist. I could care less about the ugly part for that matter. What I care about is that Nachi was lying about him making racist comments, about me and him being the same, and about soc insulting his mother and family. None of them are true. I want to see him address that specifically and stop using such kinds of problematic ways to deal with a problem when he himself has said that soccerates can ignore him. He can also ignore soccerates and not use poor approaches like that. my questions are self explanatory. I wouldn't be making these comments if I wasn't mentioned. And i know soccerates personally and he is furthest thing from racist as one can be. He is effectively a white male and I'm a colored female. Again, if nachi has any sort of proof he should come forward with it, or appologize for lying about each of us.

How are you involved in this by the way?

[Lance Knight]

wasnt this thread closed???

[MarieL]

wasnt this thread closed???
I'm opening this so we can finish this once and for all, but if I see a single insult or a swear word or any unpleasentness I'll close it again. Trouble reading?

[RaulMadrid7]

http://www.bonafideimg.com/uploads/DESPERATE03_3000_112795752612.jpg
:D

[bob bob]

zsdv

[valdanito_10]

:lol; nice one RM7

[Lance Knight]

Trouble reading?
yes thank u very much, lol

[The Bishop]

I am offended by RaulMadrid7's reference to nipples. I had my nipples burned off in an horrific speed-reading accident and ever since then the whole area has been a sensitive one.

[valdanito_10]

dont get offended by stuff like that!

[Toke-E-Yo]

I am offended by RaulMadrid7's reference to nipples. I had my nipples burned off in an horrific speed-reading accident and ever since then the whole area has been a sensitive one.


you shouldnt have been speeding! :crutch:

[soccerates]

I am offended by RaulMadrid7's reference to nipples. I had my nipples burned off in an horrific speed-reading accident and ever since then the whole area has been a sensitive one.

speed reading :Pound:

good one...

[soccerates]

Listen up soccerates-

1) I was totally on topic in the 'la liga vs serie a' thread. I asked you a querry on what you had posted, you chose not to answer, and instead made some provocative statements, which I ignored twice, but then had enough of. Your refusal to answer it is fine( especially if you dont know what u've posted), but no need to reply with provocative nonsense.

1 - You made a query which I stated that you are able to answer yourself given that you proclaim yourself a master statistician, therefore I refused to answer.

2 - Pot calling the kettle black. You don't like to be provoked, but you provoke all the same. It's a little dose of what you put out. However I never lied about you.


2)Your flaw in ading up statistics has been pointed out to you 5 times in mannschaft vs azzuri thread.

1 - It was a demonstration that no one 'fell' for your change of subject in an argument that you had lost long before.

2 - The point was that you accused me of making a fallacy of logic, which you were also unable to prove.


3) Your selective vision conveniently leaves out the outright racist comments made by ur freind IB. Try and broaden your vision.

I don't speak for him.


4) Your calling me names like - gay, rionche,etc are all untrue, and you owe me an apology.

Those are insults, just like your calling me "***king ape" just because I refuse to answer one of your provocations. Like you said before, eat the humble pie.


Thats all I have to say on this matter. No more replies to you, regardless of what you reply.

That's fine because all you are declaring is that you are deceptive. You've been called out to defend your false allegations on me on three specific slandeous accusations, all of which were proven false by several posters and even one s moderator. Since you refuse to revoke your allegations, you are declaring that you don't mind being deceptive. That's fine...as you say "case closed!"

[Lance Knight]

mariel do u really feel they can work it out, lol
but hte thing is the german nt is still better than the italian nt

[nachi88]

mariel do u really feel they can work it out, lol
but hte thing is the german nt is still better than the italian nt

Apparently she is the only one beliving that. She must be a beliver in miracles. Thats rare for an athiest though. :)

On, a different note, a question to you MarieL, The last message i got from you, staes that the ids Crispy cutter and Maxim Gerrard are not of soccerates, but of RonaldinhoRulz. Is that true??

Your silence will be taken as a yes.

[MarieL]

Apparently she is the only one beliving that. She must be a beliver in miracles. Thats rare for an athiest though. :)

On, a different note, a question to you MarieL, The last message i got from you, staes that the ids Crispy cutter and Maxim Gerrard are not of soccerates, but of RonaldinhoRulz. Is that true??

Your silence will be taken as a yes. Yes. Like she has told you, he has told you and I have told you. Okay?

And it's Critter or not Cutter. Ahh, can't stand it when people misstype words... :D

[valdanito_10]

the neverending story :rolleyes:

[Toke-E-Yo]

ok here is my view. I have read way to many of Nachi88's posts and he does not seem to be the type to attack someone with insults unless someone realllly reallly agitates him. However, I have noticed that soccerates has a beef with half this forum (not half, but a few memebers), so (no offence) but I can see Soccerates taking the first attack and firing his mouth of first.

Just my 2 cents. now shall we end this? :closed:

[Lance Knight]

ok here is my view. I have read way to many of Nachi88's posts and he does not seem to be the type to attack someone with insults unless someone realllly reallly agitates him. However, I have noticed that soccerates has a beef with half this forum (not half, but a few memebers), so (no offence) but I can see Soccerates taking the first attack and firing his mouth of first.

Just my 2 cents. now shall we end this? :closed:
my sentiments exactly

[soccerates]

ok here is my view. I have read way to many of Nachi88's posts and he does not seem to be the type to attack someone with insults unless someone realllly reallly agitates him. However, I have noticed that soccerates has a beef with half this forum (not half, but a few memebers), so (no offence) but I can see Soccerates taking the first attack and firing his mouth of first.

Just my 2 cents. now shall we end this? :closed:

You should read all of our "debates"...I may provoke Nachi at times, but I only do it within reason as I noticed that he likes to provoke back. I never made him lose it...he can take responsibility for that himself.

And who are you to talk? How many threads have you started accusing American white folk of being racist on these forums?

I'm happy to know that Nachi pm'd all of you for support, it's cute since he can't defend his own actions.

[soccerates]

my sentiments exactly

Congrats, first post of yours that I read all the words spelt correctly :D

On a more relevant topic for you, Lance, I suppose your master league is not going to happen? Failed because of a lack of users? Darn, I was so looking forward to kicking your and Nachi's arse again :lol:

[soccerates]

mariel do u really feel they can work it out, lol
but hte thing is the german nt is still better than the italian nt

If you really believe that then why don't you open up a betting poll for our game on March 1? :smoking:

At any rate, it could possibly be a 50/50 opportunity for the Manshaft, since it is a friendly game and Germany usually only beats Italy in friendlies :lol:

Otherwise it's NO CONTEST :evil:

[nachi88]

Yes. Like she has told you, he has told you and I have told you. Okay?

She told me??? No she didnt.
He told me?? No he didnt.

Both denied it. Probably will still deny it.

Only you told me.


And it's Critter or not Cutter. Ahh, can't stand it when people misstype words... :D

I am sorrey.

[Toke-E-Yo]

hey soccerates, can u just make one long post?

[soccerates]

She told me??? No she didnt.
He told me?? No he didnt.

Both denied it. Probably will still deny it.

Only you told me.



I am sorrey.

We both told you. Time to give up the lies. Stick to the topic and don't use ad hominem or provocations UNLESS you can take it in return. In that case, use them all you want, just don't cry whenyou get it back.

You reap what you sow.

[nachi88]

We both told you. Time to give up the lies. Stick to the topic and don't use ad hominem or provocations UNLESS you can take it in return. In that case, use them all you want, just don't cry whenyou get it back.

You reap what you sow.

so you told me that ronaldinhorulz made multiple ids??

want to post a link, where you did that?
or did you tell me in pms???

a classic case of your sock puppet voting for you in all polls.

[soccerates]

so you told me that ronaldinhorulz made multiple ids??

Why are you on this topic, what does it prove really? I told you I didn't know all the names that she may or may not have registered with. Sheesh... Nachi, don't you think it's a bit obsessive? I don't think she had any ill intentions with them since she NEVER USED THEM, just registered them and probably changed her mind. I saw the pm she cc'd you dude, she sent me a copy of it. I think it explains it fine, and no super moderator is making as big a deal about it as you.


a classic case of your sock puppet voting for you in all polls.

huh? I made the last poll public for YOU and all to see so you can't accuse me of it, and I never made sock puppets. You insist on lying. You have no shame.
But anyhow, I thought you said you weren't going to respond anymore, since you have the orignal questions stand.

1 - Why did you call me racist when you were the only one with a racial insult?

2 - Why did you insult my family, deny it, then claim I insulted yours when no such thing existed?

If you can't out debate me with reason and logic, why do you even bother? There are at least 2 other threads where you made decisive statements about UEFA rulings, and certain quotes, then went quiet when I asked you to cite a source. That tells me that no such thing existed, ever. Sorry, but you have a bad habit of making stuff up.

[nachi88]

Why are you on this topic, what does it prove really? I told you I didn't know all the names that she may or may not have registered with. Sheesh... Nachi, don't you think it's a bit obsessive? I don't think she had any ill intentions with them since she NEVER USED THEM, just registered them and probably changed her mind. I saw the pm she cc'd you dude, she sent me a copy of it. I think it explains it fine, and no super moderator is making as big a deal about it as you.

Wel this issue was initially raised by MarieL. she used them in the 'sfn inaugral match' . In anycase, making many ids from the same pc is a bannable offense. One of our mods was banned for it once. I dont know why rrulz has been let off so easily.

Why are you defending her so much??



huh? I made the last poll public for YOU and all to see so you can't accuse me of it, and I never made sock puppets. You insist on lying. You have no shame.

Thats not the poll I was talking about. Nice try to change the subject. You have no brains, you misunderatand everything.

[soccerates]

Why are you defending her so much??

Cuz I don't know what she's done and MarieL has cleared her and I of any wrong doing. So....

Nice of you to change the topic here Nachi, nice try...but the original topic is below and you are still cowardly running from it. You have no brains, you misunderatand everything.

I see that you keep avoiding the real issues here which is a CLEAR CUT SIGN OF GUILT:

I'll repeat

You insist on lying. You have no shame.
But anyhow, I thought you said you weren't going to respond anymore, since you have the orignal questions stand.

1 - Why did you call me racist when you were the only one with a racial insult?

2 - Why did you insult my family, deny it, then claim I insulted yours when no such thing existed?

If you can't out debate me with reason and logic, why do you even bother? There are at least 2 other threads where you made decisive statements about UEFA rulings, and certain quotes, then went quiet when I asked you to cite a source. That tells me that no such thing existed, ever. Sorry, but you have a bad habit of making stuff up.

[soccerates]

Why this is allowed?

And Nachi, if you didn't want to bring me into this then you shouldn't have mentioned my name and said lies about me. Now answer the questions Nachi. Why are you lying about another member just because you don't like his debate or topics? Why have YOU started up again with him? Do you think everyone on this forum is a fool and can't see through your lies? You shouldn't have lied about me either.



Hollow words? Like when you call someone racist with no quotes or links whatsoever. This is the fourth time someone has asked you to prove it with something real, instead of cheap rhetorical tricks. And you won't do it? Why is that? Because you are lying? :rolleyes:

What I'd like to know is why is Nachi88 allowed to racially insult someone then deny it blatantly and call the person he just racially insulted a racist? I'd like to know:

Why Nachi can deny saying this over and over when the proof is in his very words?
"if i have to swear at u.. like im doing now.. i dont shit talk ur whole ***king mafia family... i just shit talk u." (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=493299&postcount=124)

And don't go and try to edit it out now, because I have saved it just in case. And I'm complaining about your behavior. I don't like your defamation campaign to include MY NAME! If you didn't want me involved you shouldn't have lied about me! So, if you go edit it out now you'll prove to everyone even more how dishonest you are.

Well there it is. Now you are again lying below when you said you'd never do that. Either you are completely out of your mind, or you have no problem defaming someone. Either way, that's sick behavior.

Denying this again Nachi88?!? That's disgusting, and insultive, and i don't like being brought into your discussions with your defamation of me. So don't mention my name again.



This is another lie. I remember that discussion perfectly well. He never said
anything derogatory about your mom.

Here is what he actually said, which you tried to twist around. THAT'S COLD AND DISHONEST OF YOU NACHI!:

"Maybe get your mommy to warm you up a glass of milk. Go whine in the other threads." (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=476818&postcount=221)

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=476845&postcount=225

You are purposefully tring to defame him by pretending that it is an insult on your mom when everyone and their dog knows that it is not, it's about you. He, and I, think you are a baby and whiner.

Even Dutchfan (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=476905&postcount=231) and The Italian Bull (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=476915&postcount=233) realized the meaning that you are trying to twist around. Aren't you the slight bit emberrased about it?
Are you going to false accuse them of being Soccerates too, like you did with me just because I happen to agree with him about this.

I take you calling him a racist seriously, because I know what has happened to one of his friends regarding racial issues, and that I AM A COLORED BRAZILIAN FEMALE and have been subjected to everyday racialy undertones as well. Let's see your links for his racist remarks. Otherwise for the sake of this forum, why don't you come clean and stop lying for pete's sake?!?



I'm passing judgements on YOUR behavior. But don't make me drag out the link where you DID include me. You did this to yourself. You made your bed, now sleep in in hunny! I don't like your behavior, but I doubt that you're always this dishonest. If you are, then you have problems!

Maxim Gerrad and Crispy Critter - I don't use those accounts, I settled on this one. Does that satisfy you now, enough to stop bothering other people false accusations, lies, defamation, and all other sorts of maniacal behavior?

This is the original question Nachi...YOU are changing the topic not anyone else, and your refusal to address these is a sign OF GUILT.

[Lance Knight]

If you really believe that then why don't you open up a betting poll for our game on March 1? :smoking:

At any rate, it could possibly be a 50/50 opportunity for the Manshaft, since it is a friendly game and Germany usually only beats Italy in friendlies :lol:

Otherwise it's NO CONTEST :evil:
cause it is shitting march 1st, is that not clicking in your head, thats months away almost 6 to be exact, helloooooo if u dont see something wrong with that, u need to see a shrink

[Lance Knight]

Cuz I don't know what she's done and MarieL has cleared her and I of any wrong doing. So....

Nice of you to change the topic here Nachi, nice try...but the original topic is below and you are still cowardly running from it. You have no brains, you misunderatand everything.

I see that you keep avoiding the real issues here which is a CLEAR CUT SIGN OF GUILT:

I'll repeat

You insist on lying. You have no shame.
But anyhow, I thought you said you weren't going to respond anymore, since you have the orignal questions stand.

1 - Why did you call me racist when you were the only one with a racial insult?

2 - Why did you insult my family, deny it, then claim I insulted yours when no such thing existed?

If you can't out debate me with reason and logic, why do you even bother? There are at least 2 other threads where you made decisive statements about UEFA rulings, and certain quotes, then went quiet when I asked you to cite a source. That tells me that no such thing existed, ever. Sorry, but you have a bad habit of making stuff up.
actually i remembered when u said something about nachi's mother, cant remeber where though

[Toke-E-Yo]

actually i remembered when u said something about nachi's mother, cant remeber where though


as do I. I think that soccerates is acting ***kin stupid, Nachi seems to be able to get over it, but soccrates keeps bringin it up over and over again. Would you blame someone for getting pissed off and mouthing u off aftr you numerous posts (in a row)? :mad2:

[Lance Knight]

thats waht i told mariel, but i dont know whats up with her lately, i think its lack of sleep or something

[soccerates]

actually i remembered when u said something about nachi's mother, cant remeber where though

You're full of shit. What I said in the Soccerates vs MarieL thread was that "Nachi should get his mother to warm him a glass of milk." I had no idea that his mother had passed and I even sent him a pm regarding that, which he ignored. That is NOT a comment about his mother. I know you don't spell well, but apparently you can't read well either. Give it a rest Lance.

[soccerates]

as do I. I think that soccerates is acting ***kin stupid, Nachi seems to be able to get over it, but soccrates keeps bringin it up over and over again. Would you blame someone for getting pissed off and mouthing u off aftr you numerous posts (in a row)? :mad2:


The only one acting stupid are the ones who have nothing to do with this. What imbeciles like you don't seem to understand is, if someone lies about another the onus of proof is up to them . Nachi called me racist, while he yelled racial slurs. Nachi accused me of insulting his family, while he was the only to insult mine. You see...it's the pot calling the kettle black. Something Nachi does over and over, and it's also HYPOCRISY. So calling Nachi a hypocrit is not an insult, it's the truth.

Nachi lied about me, now he has to eat the pie. His lies have been confirmed false by someone he respects too, a supermoderator.

Also, I'm not sure what beef you have with me since you're the moron who keeps starting posts claiming that the most ridiculous of acts (ie; innocent) by white folk are racist to colored or oriental folk. You're another dickhead to be added to the pile of dickheads on this forum. :red-card:

So what's your beef with me Toke? You and Lance both sound like you've been fed the same spoon of boooolsheeet from Nachi...fools.

[Toke-E-Yo]

Also, I'm not sure what beef you have with me since you're the moron who keeps starting posts claiming that the most ridiculous of acts (ie; innocent) by white folk are racist to colored or oriental folk.

such as..... well if I get defensive over something like this
You're yung, so do you deliver sushi?
is it really my fault? does that ring a bell? thats more "racist" than "your family is the mob" stop whining about stereotypes you do it all the time

and you even admitted that you keep bitching at him
Do I abuse him in return? As a matter of priority...absolutely YES. It's kind of like a sport to dominate lesser minds like him, but again, he cries wolf too many times

you pick fights with to many ppl and its catching up with u. Make a poll, ask ppl! it is a fact that more ppl repsect Nachi than they ever would you. your somewere inbetween Gennadios and KillaKrush in my books :ronaldo:

[holicman]

I like Pizza and beer :)

[MarieL]

Eh... somebody forgot the no insults rule! :annoyed: :rolleyes:

[Lance Knight]

I like Pizza and beer :)
i really like this guy's thinking, lol

[soccerates]

such as..... well if I get defensive over something like this

is it really my fault? does that ring a bell? thats more "racist" than "your family is the mob" stop whining about stereotypes you do it all the time

You're a dipshit Toke...truly...you've taken something I said out of context as it was in response to you saying that it is no more racist than someone proclaiming that "you are Italian so you must deliver pizza". Sorry there you debauched moron, but I responded in kind with an analogy that was to be humorous. I didnt think you were that ***ked as to try and twist it against me, and yes it's a defensive act on your part. Thankfully you have now been confirmed as another dickhead to be added to the mountains of dickheads.

Toke, you've entered this thread and have now picked a fight with me. Am I supposed to be worried about you nagging over me "picking fights with many people?" I can handle my own, unlike you.


you pick fights with to many ppl and its catching up with u. Make a poll, ask ppl! it is a fact that more ppl repsect Nachi than they ever would you. your somewere inbetween Gennadios and KillaKrush in my books :ronaldo:


I'm sure enough of the right people respect me on this forum, and I'm not here to win a popularity contest. Respect from morons like you doesn't interest me, sorry, but you have nothing worth while to offer me. I think it's time for you to go create another thread accusing all white American's of being racist again, moron.

And why don't YOU make that poll since you're so interested in somethign that you keep berating doesn't interest you. Contradict yourself much?

It's funny that you would say "Calling your family a ***king mafia family is no more racist than if I asked you whether you deliver Pizza or not" (or something of that nature) and then would find my response about sushi racist. It's completely contradictory and signals you to be someone who does have an axe to grind. But then the shameful Nachi put you up to it. You kids are hilarious.

[soccerates]

Eh... somebody forgot the no insults rule! :annoyed: :rolleyes:

MarieL you opened this thread to give Nachi a chance to ante-up and come clean with his lies, but he doesn't want to do that. Instead he has sent two morons to do his dirty work, and yes morons because 1 has lied and said I did insult his mother - bullshit, and the other has taken somethign I said out of context and tried to taint me with it. Yet, neither were involved in the original whereas Ronaldinho Rulz was named by Nachi. Either way, Nachi has basically said that he doesn't mind being guilty as charged, and that's good enough for me.

If the other two dopes want to continue, I'll oblige them. They actually think that I invest energy into the opinions of shitheads like them on this forum? :lol:

[MarieL]

Ohh gee...
I'm sure nachi did not send anyone, these 2 are just defending a friend who they think is under attack. That's what friends do, otherwise this thread wouldn't even exist.
They may not be right about certain things, but you can't really expect them to read every thread concerning this issue, can you? They're not gonna care that much. So they see things from nachi's point of view? That is up to them.
There is no need to call anyone names! Okay?

P.S. Lance is just confused as always.

[valdanito_10]

No need for insults kids. Lets remember that everyone has a different opinion, and that there are always better ways of expressing them.

[Toke-E-Yo]

No need for insults kids. Lets remember that everyone has a different opinion, and that there are always better ways of expressing them.


I have already stated my point of view. I do not believe that Nachi would make any sort innaprpriate comment unless provoked greatly by Soccerates, and I dont put it past him to do it, because he seems to always be picking fights with people.

[Dutchfan]

I have already stated my point of view. I do not believe that Nachi would make any sort innaprpriate comment unless provoked greatly by Soccerates, and I dont put it past him to do it, because he seems to always be picking fights with people."Toke-e-yo" - YOU need to pay better attention! Is that something you're capable of?

[valdanito_10]

i dont think it will take too long before I have to close this thread.

[Lance Knight]

close it now, i say

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

P.S. Lance is just confused as always.

That's obvious :lol:

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

I have already stated my point of view. I do not believe that Nachi would make any sort innaprpriate comment unless provoked greatly by Soccerates, and I dont put it past him to do it, because he seems to always be picking fights with people.

Well I've been around since June watchng soccerates do what he does best, out debate using civil arguments. the only time he insults is when he get's insulted, and he get's insulted by the variety of imbeciles that simply can't stay on topic.

I was brought into this by Nachi himself who wrongly accused me of being soccerates, but I don't see where Tokeyo has any involvement, and like soccerates says they both sound like they have the same nonsense to repeat. Tokeyo and Lance.

Soccerates doesn't pick fights with anyone, it's the other way around like what you just did tokeyo. He didn't come to you, you came to him. You picked the fight, now you have to live with the results.

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

i dont think it will take too long before I have to close this thread.

Well you might as well close it since Nachi has signalled by his silence that he doesn't mind lying and being deceptive to ruin someone's reputation since all his accusations have now been proven false.

And while you are at it, why don't you go to this link and see Philipas calling Dutchfan a Nazi. Since he's been warned to stay away from Soccerates, he's been chosing other people to bother. Don't you think it's funny that he only harrases the people who know something about the game?

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=21391&page=16&pp=15

[nachi88]

Well you might as well close it since Nachi has signalled by his silence that he doesn't mind lying and being deceptive to ruin someone's reputation since all his accusations have now been proven false.

And while you are at it, why don't you go to this link and see Philipas calling Dutchfan a Nazi. Since he's been warned to stay away from Soccerates, he's been chosing other people to bother. Don't you think it's funny that he only harrases the people who know something about the game?

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=21391&page=16&pp=15

Well rrulz....
take it point wise

1) I havent been 'warned' or anything of the sort to stay away from soccerates?? what 'stay away'?? is he so scared??

2) I havent 'harassed' Dutchfan. Read the thread carefully, see if there are any non football posts from me, until mentioned by me myself. I see ionly one post in that thread from you, which is a non sequitor

3) Thats a cariature of Hitler, philippas didnt call Dutchfan a 'Nazi'. I dont want to act teacher here, that too someone supposedly a decade elder to me, but Marx isnt considered a Marxist, Christ wasnt considered a Christian, and similarly Hitler isnt considered a Nazi. His followers are. ( Not defedning any one here, just letting you know the facts)

4) What has been proven 'false', Care to show me the links? Just in the previous page of this very thread, i see the 'non racist' soccerates making very racist comments about one of our Oriental posters. :boo:

My regards to Crispy critter and Maxim Gerrard.

[ItalianBoy]

Nachi, honestly, don't you think it would be a good idea if for a while, you and Soccerates do not reply to each other? I mean, some people are on your side, and some are on Soccerates side. I think that for fairness, you guys should just stop all the banters, and start from scratch. Do you agree?:)

[nachi88]

Nachi, honestly, don't you think it would be a good idea if for a while, you and Soccerates do not reply to each other? I mean, some people are on your side, and some are on Soccerates side. I think that for fairness, you guys should just stop all the banters, and start from scratch. Do you agree?:)

Agreeable, provided no provocations/ racist comments/ flase lies , like that of wc54 blood doping, or Frings deliberate handball etc are not propogated.

Neither should his multiple sock puppets, and their alias ids do the same.

Then it would be perfectly agreeable.

[ItalianBoy]

Well, that means that you too will have to stop accusing. I mean, maybe you do not see it but quotes like the last one can be provokatory. I mean just plain out stop posting to each other, even stopping wisecracks in other threads. Imagining that you two never met.

[nachi88]

Well, that means that you too will have to stop accusing. I mean, maybe you do not see it but quotes like the last one can be provokatory. I mean just plain out stop posting to each other, even stopping wisecracks in other threads. Imagining that you two never met.

we havent met :D

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

Well you might as well close it since Nachi has signalled by his silence that he doesn't mind lying and being deceptive to ruin someone's reputation since all his accusations have now been proven false.

And while you are at it, why don't you go to this link and see Philipas calling Dutchfan a Nazi. Since he's been warned to stay away from Soccerates, he's been chosing other people to bother. Don't you think it's funny that he only harrases the people who know something about the game?

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com...1&page=16&pp=15

Well rrulz....
take it point wise

1) I havent been 'warned' or anything of the sort to stay away from soccerates?? what 'stay away'?? is he so scared??

2) I havent 'harassed' Dutchfan. Read the thread carefully, see if there are any non football posts from me, until mentioned by me myself. I see ionly one post in that thread from you, which is a non sequitor

You have reading problems. Re-read what I said. You're either reading it wrong on purpose, or are truly english challenged. The reference was to Philipas not you.

Non sequitur? Are you trying to copy soccerates again? I'm pretty sure you don't even know what it is. In fact, by your improper use above, I'm absolutely positive!


4) What has been proven 'false', Care to show me the links?

the first message in this thread proves all of your accusations wrong. You even denied calling his family a "***king mafia" family when your words are clearly available in the liga vs seria topic for everyone to see, and referenced in many replies. You lied and got caught.


Just in the previous page of this very thread, i see the 'non racist' soccerates making very racist comments about one of our Oriental posters. :boo:

That's another lie and proves how idiotic you guys can be. I read those messages, and it's interesting how low you would go to ignore that it was a response to Tokeyo saying something about soccerates being a pizza boy delivery guy because he was Italian. You and tokeyo are sad and pathetic children trying to take things out of context to taint someone. You are a sore loser from everything I've read, a liar, and a pathetic little kid.


My regards to Crispy critter and Maxim Gerrard.

Then you have the audacity to say you don't provoke. Soccerates is right. You're a lying hypocrite!

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

Agreeable, provided no provocations/ racist comments/ flase lies , like that of wc54 blood doping, or Frings deliberate handball etc are not propogated.

Neither should his multiple sock puppets, and their alias ids do the same.

Then it would be perfectly agreeable.

You're one to talk about multiple id's, since someone else even caught you with them in other debates in the past.

What's wrong with mentioning Frings handball anyhow? it's true!

[MarieL]

Just cool it people! As long as you keep posting things in an offensive manner the other person is going stay defensive and we will get absolutely nowhere.

[nachi88]

You have reading problems. Re-read what I said. You're either reading it wrong on purpose, or are truly english challenged. The reference was to Philipas not you.

Non sequitur? Are you trying to copy soccerates again? I'm pretty sure you don't even know what it is. In fact, by your improper use above, I'm absolutely positive!

Re-read what you asked me to re-read. What is your contribution to that thread? Zero. Zilch.Null.Sifr.



the first message in this thread proves all of your accusations wrong. You even denied calling his family a "***king mafia" family when your words are clearly available in the liga vs seria topic for everyone to see, and referenced in many replies. You lied and got caught.
I idnt deny that. I said he overlooked racist comments by IB. Again, its you who has reading problems.



Then you have the audacity to say you don't provoke. Soccerates is right.


You are no judge or s mod. What makes you think you should come in the 'easiest way to wc ' thread, and small talk me on 'harassing' dutchfan. he replied to it responsibly, to which I re-replied. If he doesnt seem to have a problem, why do you?

You seem to have an agenda here.

[QUOTE=Ronaldinho Rulz]
You're a lying hypocrite!

Does that mean I am hypocritical only when I lie??? :lol:

[A3eMurderer]

I agree, this is becoming somewhat tiresome. The general confrontation and tension had been relaxed, but it seems that others are beginning to revive emotions and open pathways for new unecessary altercations. Just take it easy, and don't forget this is an internet forum for God's sake...

[nachi88]

You're one to talk about multiple id's, since someone else even caught you with them in other debates in the past.

Who is that someone? What were the ids called? Nice accusations.

You however have made crispy critter and maxim gerrard. MarieL confirmed that.

Someone however told me that you had earlier confessed to being a 'man' but now u are a woman. Sex change?? Did the doctors take away your brain too, during the operation? Sue them, you have the consumer services right, I think.


What's wrong with mentioning Frings handball anyhow? it's true!
go to world soccer fourm- open thread 'which big team will be out of the world cup first' and see alink i posted in which the referee of that match Dellas,himself said that neither he nor fifa felt it to be a deliberate handball, after watching replays.

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

Re-read what you asked me to re-read.

Nachi88, are you a little bit retarded?

I said:

Originally Posted by Ronaldinho Rulz
Well you might as well close it since Nachi has signalled by his silence that he doesn't mind lying and being deceptive to ruin someone's reputation since all his accusations have now been proven false.

And while you are at it, why don't you go to this link and see Philipas calling Dutchfan a Nazi. Since he's been warned to stay away from Soccerates, he's been chosing other people to bother. Don't you think it's funny that he only harrases the people who know something about the game?

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com...1&page=16&pp=15

and wrongly responded:


Quote:
Originally Posted by nachi88
Well rrulz....
take it point wise

1) I havent been 'warned' or anything of the sort to stay away from soccerates?? what 'stay away'?? is he so scared??

2) I havent 'harassed' Dutchfan. Read the thread carefully, see if there are any non football posts from me, until mentioned by me myself. I see ionly one post in that thread from you, which is a non sequitor

You took what I said about Philpas and responded as if I was saying it about you. That is why I said re-read it, otherwise you have problems with english.



I idnt deny that.

ahhhh, lying again my little weasel? You don't understand that with every lie the actual truth about you builds and builds. When I asked you why you were accusing him of being racist when you said the racist comment you denied saying it. Your words were: "I never said that..." and that was in response to you actually saying "***king mafia family" then accusing soccerates of insulting your family. You insult his family and make it a racist one all in one comment, then try to deny it. That's three strikes against you. You are the biggest liar on SFN. You have no remorse because it's impossible for liars like you to feel any. You just keep on twisting things around to suit your own needs, and then put people up to defending you.

Even after MarieL cleared soccerates of multiple id's you still lie and try to taint him with it, when you're probably the only one with them.
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=35090&page=2&pp=15


Again, its you who has reading problems.

I'm beginning to thnk that you actually believe this, in which case you are the dumb ape that you accused soccerates of being.



Then you have the audacity to say you don't provoke. Soccerates is right.


You are no judge or s mod. What makes you think you should come in the 'easiest way to wc ' thread, and small talk me on 'harassing' dutchfan.

I don't need to be a super moderator to be insulted by your lies and provocations. You, remember little weasel, brought me into this by accusing me of things I have not done. You made your bed, now you need to sleep in it. You also cannot control me or anyone else's behavior. So when you insult or provoke others you can expect me or someone else to remind you. If you don't like it, don't do it. Soccerates and others have told you the same many times before. You have no problem lying about others, but when they tell the truth about you you cry harder than anyone I've ever seen!

The only person with an agenda is you. You can't win a normal debate so you lie about people. One day you'll realize that is wrong. On a forum it might not make a difference but then you're the one with multiple id's voting in polls you created just so you can win something that is pointless.

[Lance Knight]

Nachi, honestly, don't you think it would be a good idea if for a while, you and Soccerates do not reply to each other? I mean, some people are on your side, and some are on Soccerates side. I think that for fairness, you guys should just stop all the banters, and start from scratch. Do you agree?:)
well said, now the problem is that soccerates and ronaldino whatever have been constantly saying how he is silence cause he was lying and stuff like that,

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

I agree, this is becoming somewhat tiresome. The general confrontation and tension had been relaxed, but it seems that others are beginning to revive emotions and open pathways for new unecessary altercations. Just take it easy, and don't forget this is an internet forum for God's sake...

You're right on one level, but then no one is forcing you or anyone else to read this at all. If you are then I think it's only because you are enjoying the drama as are the rest of the people. When Nachi stops lying about me then I'll let it go, otherwise I'll keep on proving him a liar by his own words. It's not hard. Next time he get's into a fight, that he brings upon himself with soccerates he'll leave my name out of it because Soccerates is already too much for him to handle never mind bringing me into it. As I said, he made his bed now he shouldn't cry that he has to sleep in it.

[nachi88]

Nachi88, are you a little bit retarded?



The answer to your question is no. A person who isnt sure if he/she/it is a man/woman or something else asking me this. hahahahaha

But you are retarded.

Now tell me the names of the alternate ids I have made.

Otherwise you lose whatever little credibility u have.

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

well said, now the problem is that soccerates and ronaldino whatever have been constantly saying how he is silence cause he was lying and stuff like that,

you obviously don't know how to read anything properly. i'm not the only one who has noticed this. The reason why I am responding here is because nachi saw no problem with trying to lie about my involvement when he couldn't handle soccerates by himself. He broght this upon himself. You were never involved in the beginning. What's your excuse?

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

Re-read what you asked me to re-read.

Nachi88, are you a little bit retarded?

I said:

Originally Posted by Ronaldinho Rulz
Well you might as well close it since Nachi has signalled by his silence that he doesn't mind lying and being deceptive to ruin someone's reputation since all his accusations have now been proven false.

And while you are at it, why don't you go to this link and see Philipas calling Dutchfan a Nazi. Since he's been warned to stay away from Soccerates, he's been chosing other people to bother. Don't you think it's funny that he only harrases the people who know something about the game?

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com...1&page=16&pp=15

and wrongly responded:


Quote:
Originally Posted by nachi88
Well rrulz....
take it point wise

1) I havent been 'warned' or anything of the sort to stay away from soccerates?? what 'stay away'?? is he so scared??

2) I havent 'harassed' Dutchfan. Read the thread carefully, see if there are any non football posts from me, until mentioned by me myself. I see ionly one post in that thread from you, which is a non sequitor

You took what I said about Philpas and responded as if I was saying it about you. That is why I said re-read it, otherwise you have problems with english.



I idnt deny that.

ahhhh, lying again my little weasel? You don't understand that with every lie the actual truth about you builds and builds. When I asked you why you were accusing him of being racist when you said the racist comment you denied saying it. Your words were: "I never said that..." and that was in response to you actually saying "***king mafia family" then accusing soccerates of insulting your family. You insult his family and make it a racist one all in one comment, then try to deny it. That's three strikes against you. You are the biggest liar on SFN. You have no remorse because it's impossible for liars like you to feel any. You just keep on twisting things around to suit your own needs, and then put people up to defending you.

Even after MarieL cleared soccerates of multiple id's you still lie and try to taint him with it, when you're probably the only one with them.
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=35090&page=2&pp=15


Again, its you who has reading problems.

I'm beginning to thnk that you actually believe this, in which case you are the dumb ape that you accused soccerates of being.



Then you have the audacity to say you don't provoke. Soccerates is right.


You are no judge or s mod. What makes you think you should come in the 'easiest way to wc ' thread, and small talk me on 'harassing' dutchfan.

I don't need to be a super moderator to be insulted by your lies and provocations. You, remember little weasel, brought me into this by accusing me of things I have not done. You made your bed, now you need to sleep in it. You also cannot control me or anyone else's behavior. So when you insult or provoke others you can expect me or someone else to remind you. If you don't like it, don't do it. Soccerates and others have told you the same many times before. You have no problem lying about others, but when they tell the truth about you you cry harder than anyone I've ever seen!

The only person with an agenda is you. You can't win a normal debate so you lie about people.

Now prove where soccerates and I are the same, prove where he insulted your family or where he said anythign racist, otherwsie you admit to being a lying fraud and a cheap shot artist, like almost everyone knows of you by now.

[nachi88]

Nachi88, are you a little bit retarded?





The answer to your question is no. A person who isnt sure if he/she/it is a man/woman or something else asking me this. hahahahaha

But you are retarded.

Now tell me the names of the alternate ids I have made.

Otherwise you lose whatever little credibility u have.

[A3eMurderer]

Ronaldinho Rulz você fala o inglês bem, de onde é você?

Have you not already established the fact that your IP differs with soccerates? Was that not the purpose of this thread? If not, instead of continuing the this meaningless argument - could you please state what exactly it is you would like to be explicitly stated, you never know - you might get what you want...

muito obrigado.

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

The answer to your question is no.

I see, so you admit to misreading things on purpose in order to misrepresent what someone has said and twist it around on them? Cool. That's what we all know already.

here's more proof:

Originally Posted by Ronaldinho Rulz
Well you might as well close it since Nachi has signalled by his silence that he doesn't mind lying and being deceptive to ruin someone's reputation since all his accusations have now been proven false.

And while you are at it, why don't you go to this link and see Philipas calling Dutchfan a Nazi. Since he's been warned to stay away from Soccerates, he's been chosing other people to bother. Don't you think it's funny that he only harrases the people who know something about the game?

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com...1&page=16&pp=15

And how you twisted it:



Originally Posted by nachi88

Well rrulz....
take it point wise

1) I havent been 'warned' or anything of the sort to stay away from soccerates?? what 'stay away'?? is he so scared??

2) I havent 'harassed' Dutchfan. Read the thread carefully, see if there are any non football posts from me, until mentioned by me myself. I see ionly one post in that thread from you, which is a non sequitor


now that this has been solved, shall we assume that the rest of your false accusations were also from the same motive, or are you going to post proof. You not posting proof is an admittance of guilt. You've already admitted you were guilty before, so why not just do it again and be done with it? :lol:

[nachi88]

Ronaldinho Rulz você fala o inglês bem, de onde é você?

Have you not already established the fact that your IP differs with soccerates? Was that not the purpose of this thread? If not, instead of continuing the this meaningless argument - could you please state what exactly it is you would like to be explicitly stated, you never know - you might get what you want...

muito obrigado.

you asking her what she wants??? I'll be suprised if you get an answer.

I doubt if she knows it herself. She creates multiple ids and cheats in polls. Verified by MarieL.

She also isnt too sure if she is a he. If a pm I recived by 'someone' is to be belived. :lol:

[MarieL]

Just shut up nachi!

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

Ronaldinho Rulz você fala o inglês bem, de onde é você?

I am in Canada, have been for many years.


Have you not already established the fact that your IP differs with soccerates? Was that not the purpose of this thread? If not, instead of continuing the this meaningless argument - could you please state what exactly it is you would like to be explicitly stated, you never know - you might get what you want...

That Nachi stops his misuse of misquoting other people in order to try and taint their reputation. That's been his only strategy from the beginning. I've witnessed it in his argument with soccerates in the initial topic, where I did not interfere because soccerates more than enough for simple Nachi. Then he lied about him and I, and that's where I take the exception. I and others have been demonstrating that if nachi can't debate someone cleanly then he should move on and not even bother, instead of making up lies. That is all. He is continuing this with his own sorts of provokers and such. That's his doing. So, he made his bed now he can sleep in it.


muito obrigado.

São você Brasileiro ou os Portuguêses?

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

you asking her what she wants??? I'll be suprised if you get an answer.

I doubt if she knows it herself. She creates multiple ids and cheats in polls. Verified by MarieL.

She also isnt too sure if she is a he. If a pm I recived by 'someone' is to be belived. :lol:

More lie from you. What you don't realize is that you are just digging your own grave.

[Toke-E-Yo]

Nachi I can see where tour comin from if u said that u believed that Ronaldhino Rulz is soccerates. Same sort of attack, same sort of posts, and the same length of not putting everything in one, but makin about 10 in a row :lol:

[nachi88]

More lie from you. What you don't realize is that you are just digging your own grave.

The correct grammartical construction would be 'more lies'.

anyways, the grave is for you. will 4x2x6 be enough , im tired of digging already.
or are u the fat types??

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

The answer to your question is no.

I see, so you admit to misreading things on purpose in order to misrepresent what someone has said and twist it around on them? Cool. That's what we all know already.

here's more proof:

Originally Posted by Ronaldinho Rulz
Well you might as well close it since Nachi has signalled by his silence that he doesn't mind lying and being deceptive to ruin someone's reputation since all his accusations have now been proven false.

And while you are at it, why don't you go to this link and see Philipas calling Dutchfan a Nazi. Since he's been warned to stay away from Soccerates, he's been chosing other people to bother. Don't you think it's funny that he only harrases the people who know something about the game?

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com...1&page=16&pp=15

And how you twisted it:



Originally Posted by nachi88

Well rrulz....
take it point wise

1) I havent been 'warned' or anything of the sort to stay away from soccerates?? what 'stay away'?? is he so scared??

2) I havent 'harassed' Dutchfan. Read the thread carefully, see if there are any non football posts from me, until mentioned by me myself. I see ionly one post in that thread from you, which is a non sequitor


now that this has been solved, shall we assume that the rest of your false accusations were also from the same motive, or are you going to post proof. You not posting proof is an admittance of guilt. You've already admitted you were guilty before, so why not just do it again and be done with it? :lol:

[A3eMurderer]

São você Brasileiro ou os Portuguêses?

Nah... I just know about 10 sentences tops in portuguese from my brasilian friends...

As for the general argument taking place here, I just think you are all taking it too personally... You are all going to be stuck on computer awaiting a response from the other so that the cycle will keep on continuing... just not worth it IMO...

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

Nachi I can see where tour comin from if u said that u believed that Ronaldhino Rulz is soccerates. Same sort of attack, same sort of posts, and the same length of not putting everything in one, but makin about 10 in a row :lol:

too bad that we aren't. That means double trouble for liars like you two. :p

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

Nah... I just know about 10 sentences tops in portuguese from my brasilian friends...

As for the general argument taking place here, I just think you are all taking it too personally... You are all going to be stuck on computer awaiting a response from the other so that the cycle will keep on continuing... just not worth it IMO...

I respect your opinion, and I think this thing is about to be shut down. I just wanted to prove a point that Nachi88 shouldn't feel comfortable or proud about lynig or tainting someone just because he lost a simple and stupid debate. I know soccerates personally, and i've posted how in about a dozen or so messages, and he's the wrong person for someone as immature as Nachi to argue with. Nach should just leave it alone, but he lied and this is where it's gone wrong for him.

[nachi88]

I respect your opinion, and I think ............. he lied and this is where it's gone wrong for him.

You think???? ur posts seem to indicate otherwise.

You should say something like 'i instigate'. That will be more realistic

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

SC just rang me and he's coming on. How about I stick around so you two losers Nachi and Tokeyo can see us posting at the same time?

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

You think???? ur posts seem to indicate otherwise.

You should say something like 'i instigate'. That will be more realistic

well you've just gone ahead and confirmed it for me, you are retarded. No one can possibly be that stupid to try and twist something like that around. :sad:

[nachi88]

SC just rang me and he's coming on. How about I stick around so you two losers Nachi and Tokeyo can see us posting at the same time?

get crispy and maxim too.

[Toke-E-Yo]

SC just rang me and he's coming on. How about I stick around so you two losers Nachi and Tokeyo can see us posting at the same time?


I never called you a liar, I just said that I could believe that you two are the same person or alike. If you guys r friends, doesnt that make u alike?

[soccerates]

Hello Children, I am here now :)

Nachi, listen up mate. We had a nice friendly conversation on MSN the other night with MarieL, Dutchfan and Davor Suker. Look, I forgave you for lying about me. We laughed about the stupid ape comments. We traded banana's with each other, :lol: and such. I think the point here is this; if we get into a soccer debate let's try to stay on topic. For example, in another thread you said a few things about UEFA's decisions and such. I challenged you to cite some sources, but you did not. I didn't accuse you of lying there, because it's quite possible than you might have made the inference from something else you heard and didn't have sources. It's also possible that you made it up but truly believed that it was accurate. I don't care which one of them it might have been, my point is that I kept it amicable and didn't accuse you of lying and you didn't go off center either. How about we keep it like that?

How about we keep it on-topic, with rationale debate and argumentation, avoiding the necessities to lie about me, my past behavior (your past behavior) etc?

What do you say?

I don't care about the lies said about me here anymore. It's water under the bridge. I understand why you might have resorted to them. I think that all in all the point has been made.

Next time I catch you on MSN, I'll invite RR online to chat with you too. And yes, maybe we can bring your crispy critter the rat and Gerard too, but I don't know who would want to play him, it's bad enough that Ang has used Ronaldinho's name, hahahaah :lol: Kidding Ang.

BTW Nachi, my name is not Sam. It's the monicker I used on planetworldcup.com Telling Phil it was Sam just made him pm me more and more. If it makes you happy, I'll respond to it.

Now enuf. Move on...let's talk about Turkey vs Germany ;) mmmm....turkey, stuffing, graaavyyyyyy.....

I must now leave because I have to have turkey dinner at the inlaws soon!

Ciao,
SC

[soccerates]

I never called you a liar, I just said that I could believe that you two are the same person or alike. If you guys r friends, doesnt that make u alike?


She lives with me sister Rope a Dope Toke....and like Nachi she can't win an argument with me either :Pound:. Kidding aside, she's one of the nicest people around.

That said, I take exception with you trying to paint my comments about delivering sushi as racist since it was an analogous response to your very own comments about stereotyping Italians as being pizza delivery boys just because they are Italian. You were being humorous (so I thought) and I was in return. Why did you take it out of context and try to embelish a different meaning? Don't you think that's pretty dishonest in and of itself?

Anyhow, I'm off. I'll try to get back on tonight while doing work related paperwork.

Happy Thanksgiving to all.


Mmmm Turkey.....

Turkey 2 - Germany 1 :lol:

Don't take it seriously Nachi, it's just a small provocation...all in good fun right? ;)

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

Well I hope that settles it for you Nachi88.

Stop the bullshit now.

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

I never called you a liar, I just said that I could believe that you two are the same person or alike. If you guys r friends, doesnt that make u alike?

No, sorry it does not. Maybe I've learned from him from years of debating soccer, even though for most things we see things similarly. He's just too stubborn to admit that ROnaldinho is better than Kaka :ronaldo: . Besides that, I'm female, he's male, I'm Brazilian, he's Italian. You see the natural rivarly. Despite all that, we are friends.

Maybe he and Nachi88 should try that too?

Just a thought.


Bye

[nachi88]

Well I hope that settles it for you Nachi88.

Stop the bullshit now.

well if u couldnt figure it out urself..

it was stopped... until u came to start flaming things again, accusing me of 'harassing' dutchfan, making multiple ids and other things, which exist only in ur head.

and soccerates- read the 'which big country is going to go out at an earlt stage in the wc' thread. I have posted a link, from the scottish referee, which more or less proves that Frings handball wasnt deliberate. FIFA feels the same too.

[Lance Knight]

you obviously don't know how to read anything properly. i'm not the only one who has noticed this. The reason why I am responding here is because nachi saw no problem with trying to lie about my involvement when he couldn't handle soccerates by himself. He broght this upon himself. You were never involved in the beginning. What's your excuse?
do u know u are just wasting our and your time, first of all u fighting with the top users here, in the end i wouldnt hold nothing against soccerates, but u are pushing it

[Lance Knight]

exactly why are taking this so seriously

and soccerates try and control your friend

[Dutchfan]

Nachi I can see where tour comin from if u said that u believed that Ronaldhino Rulz is soccerates. Same sort of attack, same sort of posts, and the same length of not putting everything in one, but makin about 10 in a row :lol:For your information "Toke" (do you know what "toke" means in the United States? If so, then I would submit that you've done a bit too much of it in your young life), I happen to KNOW that Ronaldinho Rulz is NOT soccerates! YOU need to start paying better attention!

[ItalianBoy]

we havent met :D

Duh...you know what I mean.

[Dutchfan]

well if u couldnt figure it out urself..

it was stopped... until u came to start flaming things again, accusing me of 'harassing' dutchfan, making multiple ids and other things, which exist only in ur head.

and soccerates- read the 'which big country is going to go out at an earlt stage in the wc' thread. I have posted a link, from the scottish referee, which more or less proves that Frings handball wasnt deliberate. FIFA feels the same too.Even I, an ardent anti-Mannschaft type, admit that Frings' handball in the World Cup 2002 match vs. the U.S. was not deliberate. (Shall I repeat that for you so you can refer to it later - the day I actually gave Die Farblosschaft the benefit of the doubt!) HOWEVER, and nachi88, and Toke-E-Yo, and Lance Knight, and ASG, and sinan1903, and "krazyrobus-whatever" if you can't admit this next thing, then it shows that you are more narrow-minded than I already think you are - however, you have to admit that on a different day, or with a different referee, or against a different opponent, that WOULD have been called a handball against Frings. Perhaps Pierluigi Collina or Kim Milton Nilson would have called that a handball. Or had Germany's opponent been a more high-profile and more-highly-regarded team, such as Italy, Argentina, The Netherlands, or Brasil, that call WOULD have been made. See my point? Probably not, so I'll spell it out for you - the "break" the Germans got that day is that they were playing the U.S., which is not very well thought of soccer-wise, by many around the world, and IS thought of badly by many because of the idiot in the White House (I'll let you debate whether or not feelings about a particular country, or its people, or its government, should have any bearing whatsoever on what is called on the soccer field), and that whoever that referee was chose not to call that a handball. Chile had a handball called against them in the 1998 World Cup against Italy that was NO MORE DELIBERATE than Frings' was, and THAT WASN'T EVEN ON THE GOAL LINE, as Frings' was (it came on a cross from Italy's right and was JUST BARELY in the penalty area!), and THAT play WAS called a handball - against Chile! So do I think handball should have been called on the play involving Germany and the U.S.? No. Do I believe that under different circumstances the call for handball WOULD have been made? Most definitely. You can either say that it was the correct call, or that the referee missed it. Either way, the Germans that day, YET AGAIN, had a call go THEIR way that many OTHER teams would NOT have had go THEIRS!

[Toke-E-Yo]

For your information "Toke" (do you know what "toke" means in the United States? If so, then I would submit that you've done a bit too much of it in your young life), I happen to KNOW that Ronaldinho Rulz is NOT soccerates! YOU need to start paying better attention!


uhhhhhhh no I dont actually? Ive just lived in New York and Canada and just made my name that way isntead of spelling it T-o-k-y-o because it soudns cooler....

[Dutchfan]

uhhhhhhh no I dont actually? Ive just lived in New York and Canada and just made my name that way isntead of spelling it T-o-k-y-o because it soudns cooler...."To toke" is to take a hit on a bong. Or is it simply to use a "joint"? See, I've never done that sort of thing myself, so I'm not certain. What I am certain of is that it is in reference to using marijuana in some form or another. Just thought you'd like to know.

[RaulMadrid7]

"To toke" is to take a hit on a bong. Or is it simply to use a "joint"? See, I've never done that sort of thing myself, so I'm not certain. What I am certain of is that it is in reference to using marijuana in some form or another. Just thought you'd like to know.

Yeah sure. :smoking: :D

[Dutchfan]

Yeah sure. :smoking: :DHey, do you think that if I had ever done that sort of thing that I'd be able to get so passionate about some of these topics concerning the best sport in the world? Nah. If I did that sort of thing, I'd mostly be lying around on my butt, watching the world revolve around me! Hehehe! Just call me, "No drugs Dutchfan," baby!

[Bosanac]

If somebody calls Dutch.. I'll kill ya







:lol:

[soccerates]

exactly why are taking this so seriously

and soccerates try and control your friend

why, she's doing just fine by herself. As for you, may I kindly suggest you start reading things through from start to finish before people start thinking you are seriously nuts? :D

[soccerates]

do u know u are just wasting our and your time, first of all u fighting with the top users here, in the end i wouldnt hold nothing against soccerates, but u are pushing it

Lance, read things thoroughly dude....trust me, it will save you a lot of headaches.

[Toke-E-Yo]

"To toke" is to take a hit on a bong. Or is it simply to use a "joint"? See, I've never done that sort of thing myself, so I'm not certain. What I am certain of is that it is in reference to using marijuana in some form or another. Just thought you'd like to know.

Im actually wel being...uh.....uh.....whats the word? 'Ik ben sarcastic?' Your dutch, Kunt u wat ik probeer om te zeggen begrijpen? En ik wedde u rookmarihuana al tijd! Ik weet ik als ik in Amsterdam leefde! Of zijn u één van die vervalst wie zeg hun van Nederland, alhoewel zij geboren waren en in de Verenigde Staten ophieven en enkel hebben Nederlandse erfenis? U beslist!

See I can speak a bit to....

:lol:


Nah just kidding usin a translate site :D

[Lance Knight]

Even I, an ardent anti-Mannschaft type, admit that Frings' handball in the World Cup 2002 match vs. the U.S. was not deliberate. (Shall I repeat that for you so you can refer to it later - the day I actually gave Die Farblosschaft the benefit of the doubt!) HOWEVER, and nachi88, and Toke-E-Yo, and Lance Knight, and ASG, and sinan1903, and "krazyrobus-whatever" if you can't admit this next thing, then it shows that you are more narrow-minded than I already think you are - however, you have to admit that on a different day, or with a different referee, or against a different opponent, that WOULD have been called a handball against Frings. Perhaps Pierluigi Collina or Kim Milton Nilson would have called that a handball. Or had Germany's opponent been a more high-profile and more-highly-regarded team, such as Italy, Argentina, The Netherlands, or Brasil, that call WOULD have been made. See my point? Probably not, so I'll spell it out for you - the "break" the Germans got that day is that they were playing the U.S., which is not very well thought of soccer-wise, by many around the world, and IS thought of badly by many because of the idiot in the White House (I'll let you debate whether or not feelings about a particular country, or its people, or its government, should have any bearing whatsoever on what is called on the soccer field), and that whoever that referee was chose not to call that a handball. Chile had a handball called against them in the 1998 World Cup against Italy that was NO MORE DELIBERATE than Frings' was, and THAT WASN'T EVEN ON THE GOAL LINE, as Frings' was (it came on a cross from Italy's right and was JUST BARELY in the penalty area!), and THAT play WAS called a handball - against Chile! So do I think handball should have been called on the play involving Germany and the U.S.? No. Do I believe that under different circumstances the call for handball WOULD have been made? Most definitely. You can either say that it was the correct call, or that the referee missed it. Either way, the Germans that day, YET AGAIN, had a call go THEIR way that many OTHER teams would NOT have had go THEIRS!
dude i was no where in that convo, where do u get off added me to that, show me where i taked about the hand ball incident

[Lance Knight]

Lance, read things thoroughly dude....trust me, it will save you a lot of headaches.
now what makes u think that i didnt read this from the start and every post that came along?, show me where in your quote shows that.

[soccerates]

now what makes u think that i didnt read this from the start and every post that came along?, show me where in your quote shows that.

"show me where in your quote shows that."

What are you asking for? A quote from me, or you?

Hahah, it's not a "quote", per se, but rather the blatant misunderstandings of the events the led up to this that make me question your sanity and your ability to follow things in proper sequence. Sorry Lance.

[Dutchfan]

dude i was no where in that convo, where do u get off added me to that, show me where i taked about the hand ball incidentBecause you're a clear nachi supporter, so I thought I'd add your name in there to "cover all my bases" so to speak - borrowing from baseball.

[nachi88]

Because you're a clear nachi supporter, so I thought I'd add your name in there to "cover all my bases" so to speak - borrowing from baseball.

Is being a 'nachi supporter', as you put it, wrong?

He is my friend, plain and simple. And whose supporter are you, if I may know?

[621380]

[QUOTE=Ronaldinho Rulz]

This is another lie. I remember that discussion perfectly well. He never said
anything derogatory about your mom.

Here is what he actually said, which you tried to twist around. THAT'S COLD AND DISHONEST OF YOU NACHI!:

"Maybe get your mommy to warm you up a glass of milk. Go whine in the other threads." (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=476818&postcount=221)

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=476845&postcount=225

You are purposefully tring to defame him by pretending that it is an insult on your mom when everyone and their dog knows that it is not, it's about you. He, and I, think you are a baby and whiner.

QUOTE]


its about psychologie too..... a person where lost familymembers react maybe more diffrent than persons where still has all of his parents.......the point is that soccerates indirect with his comments has touched a nerv of nachi (i think nachi feeled this way).... i think its a bit tasteless to bring in familymembers in a soccerdebatte the way soccerates did with his comment.......

the same did soccerates with me on the mannschaft vs. azzuri topic.......it wasnt about milk it was about me, my mommy and breakfast...so this wasnt uniqie from soccerates here on this forum..

i never have mentioned a familymember from soccerates here on this forum so in some points he must be more carefull with his comments .....my parents are both dead and my mom is dead since i was 11 years old ...its long ago , but i feeled it was a bit tasteless from soccerates too ..but diffrent to nachi i have ignored to post a response..i have no big problems if he call me arsehole or everything else, but somthing like this i dont like very much too..........

[soccerates]

its about psychologie too..... a person where lost familymembers react maybe more diffrent than persons where still has all of his parents.......the point is that soccerates indirect with his comments has touched a nerv of nachi (i think nachi feeled this way).... i think its a bit tasteless to bring in familymembers in a soccerdebatte the way soccerates did with his comment.......

Oh give me a ***king break Hans. You are a blockhead to believe that me telling Nachi to go get his mother to make him a warm glass of milk before bedtime (an indication that I think Nachi was being a :baby:) has anything to do with his mother. I didn't know his mother had passed, and he shamefully used that as a way to attempt to demonize what I said, because I doubt that he is as stupid as to believe that it was a shot at his mother. You on the other hand, I'm not sure of...in fact after all of this I'm not sure that either of you aren't that dumb.


i never have mentioned a familymember from soccerates here on this forum so in some points he must be more carefull with his comments .....my parents are both dead and my mom is dead since i was 11 years old ...its long ago , but i feeled it was a bit tasteless from soccerates too

It would be tasteless had I known ahead of time. I did not, and you are full of shit, a blockhead that has no capacity for rational thinking. You are shamelessly trying to take something I said out of context, because as with NACHI, you got roasted too many times.



..but diffrent to nachi i have ignored to post a response..i have no big problems if he call me arsehole or everything else, but somthing like this i dont like very much too..........

Well you are an arsehole for trying to take my comments out of context. You're also a pathetic liar.

I also find it hard to beleive that Nachi didn't put you up to this in order to create the illusion of solidarity. No one in their right mind believed it was a shot at anyone else but Nachi himself. If he can dish it out, he should be able to take it. Also, this issue is closed as far as I'm concerned, I've already stated as much in message 115 (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=499339&postcount=115)

That's the problems with the likes of yourselves. You can't stick to the topic when it's clearly over and shamelessly try to create a different angle of attack by taking quotes out of context. Then when you get busted you continue on the same broken line. Just like what Toke did earlier. That's shithead tactics.

[valdanito_10]

this thread is so so boring :boring:

[valdanito_10]

this thread is so so boring :boring:
We dont even have a smiley for that ;)

[Lance Knight]

Oh give me a ***king break Hans. You are a blockhead to believe that me telling Nachi to go get his mother to make him a warm glass of milk before bedtime (an indication that I think Nachi was being a :baby:) has anything to do with his mother. I didn't know his mother had passed, and he shamefully used that as a way to attempt to demonize what I said, because I doubt that he is as stupid as to believe that it was a shot at his mother. You on the other hand, I'm not sure of...in fact after all of this I'm not sure that either of you aren't that dumb.

-wait wait, not here is some increminating evidence, lol some one just called someone a baby, hmmm...

-and vald why double posting?, lol

-oh just for info dutchfan, this has nothing to do with nachi being my friend or not, the 3 of u, clearly opened out on plain sight an attack on nachi

-also soccerates i would appreiate it if u dont comment on my ability to follow something, cause coming form the guy who thinks Italy is the best in the world, or even atleast better than germany both on current form and past expriences, it just dont sound right

[Ronaldinho Rulz]

-wait wait, not here is some increminating evidence, lol some one just called someone a baby, hmmm...-oh just for info dutchfan, this has nothing to do with nachi being my friend or not, the 3 of u, clearly opened out on plain sight an attack on nachi

-also soccerates i would appreiate it if u dont comment on my ability to follow something, cause coming form the guy who thinks Italy is the best in the world, or even atleast better than germany both on current form and past expriences, it just dont sound right

I can't see how that is more 'incriminating' that being called '***king ape, dumbass, asshole, chimpanzee, ***king mafia' and that sort. If it's ok for a moderator to get away with that, then why are you crying about being called a baby?

and Lance, neither soccerates nor I would have to post on your inability to follow anything properly if you communicated things in a more user friendly way, or follow the chain of events. Here's a bit of history for you, Nachi opened up a thread in the anger forum attacking soccerates and italian boy, and myself. Since it was closed, i asked Nachi here why he lied about me and soccerates. Since you were never involved, what is your point of being here? You and Tokeyo even posted pm's out of context to try and incriminate, as you say, soccerates. I think it's obvious to everyone. We all know you were put up to it. Don't try to play us for fools. You're trying to make us all look dumb, which is not wise on your part. Not until you learn how to read properly. I don't care if you think that's provoking you either because it's a fact.

[Lance Knight]

well i must say that making u guys look dumb is no hard thing, lol

now lets just see something here, just becuase nachi is a mod he musten have a view but u guys can say waht u want cant u?

[A3eMurderer]

here we go again...

http://www.tatame.com.br/i_publisher/files/329358542005214172450_ring-girl.jpg

[soccerates]

well i must say that making u guys look dumb is no hard thing, lol

now lets just see something here, just becuase nachi is a mod he musten have a view but u guys can say waht u want cant u?

stop smoking dope :D

[Lance Knight]

never touch the stuff, just only the weed that grows in my back yard,
alittle off topic here, but u know how smoking like damages your lungs and u cant run for long and shit, so u get kinda shitty at football, i find that weed doesnt do anything to u really,

[Toke-E-Yo]

Is being a 'nachi supporter', as you put it, wrong?



hey does ne one else see the funny part of that? :lol:

nachi supporter---> sounds like "NAzi SUpporter", an no im not racist in ne way, I just think thats a bit ironic considering hes german...




:Pout: o..........


continue with your arguments gents.......:Pout:

[Toke-E-Yo]

stop smoking dope :D
hey some of the most respected ppl int he world smoke chronic and its brought them nothing but fame....



like Snoop :D

http://www.showbizireland.com/images/stars2/meteor-snoop3.jpg

Fa Shizzle?

[nachi88]

hey some of the most respected ppl int he world smoke chronic and its brought them nothing but fame....



like Snoop :D

http://www.showbizireland.com/images/stars2/meteor-snoop3.jpg

Fa Shizzle?

hahahah :lol: That was a good one toke-yo

621380, you are one of the most respectful and honourable posters I have seen. Do not even waste your time trying to make these people understand their mistakes and bad manners.

[soccerates]

hey some of the most respected ppl int he world smoke chronic and its brought them nothing but fame....



like Snoop :D

http://www.showbizireland.com/images/stars2/meteor-snoop3.jpg

Fa Shizzle?

Snoops a dirtbag. Anyone who respects a druggie shit selling moron like him is retarded. Sorry.

[soccerates]

621380, you are one of the most respectful and honourable posters I have seen.

Even though he lied? Hmmm...:confused:


Do not even waste your time trying to make these people understand their mistakes and bad manners.

Ohh the irony...supporting others who continue to propagate lies....talking about bad manner and the moutains of mistakes, ignoring all of yours... :rolleyes: ...how sad :sad:

Then you get upset when people notice your bias.