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Feras
09-30-2005, 05:50 AM
hi folks,

prior to Robinho's arrival, there was a huge propaganda and media talk wheather Robinho was goin to Real or not,, everyone considered him to be the PeLe of this generation .. bla bla bla

now Robinho is in Real, and we saw that hes skillful and all that.. however,, isnt he a bit overrated? I mean he didnt bring magic with him .. so far he scored one header (its all Beckham's work in that one), other than that we didnt see anything except making some unhelpful tricks.

before I get some ppl arguing,, look at ronaldinho and what he does for Barca ... very accurate free kicks, amazing sets and passes ..etc meanwhile robinho :S

Bigpapa42
09-30-2005, 08:00 AM
Actually, the comparison to Ronaldinho is pretty valid, but not how you make it. When Ronaldinho first moved from Gremio to PSG, and even when he first moved to Barca, many people criticized him as a great individual player, but nothing more. That all his great moves and such were just individual accomplishments and that he couldn't really play as part of a squad. But he's proven that wrong in Barca, where he doesn't seem so selfish or individualistic anymore. But it took him time to learn that. Right now, that seems similar to what Robinho is going through - he's not playing enough as part of the team. But that doesn't mean he never will or that he's incapable of it.

Most of all, its just too early. He's been with Real about a month. You have to realize that adapting to any new league can take time, and he hasn't had that yet. If he's continuing to struggle several months down the line, or through into next season, maybe its time to question whether he's overrated.

Everyone said that Robinho is going to become a great talent, that he has the potential to develop into one of the best in the world. But I didn't see too many who realistically expected to the 21 year old to step in and be one of the finest in the world immediately. You really don't buy 21 years old players, no matter how talented, with that idea. You buy 25-28 year olds if you want a finished product who doesn't still need time to develop and grow into their ability.

realmadrid289
09-30-2005, 10:30 AM
Robinho said, dont compare us, juss watch our match against barca in november

bojabjab
09-30-2005, 12:22 PM
ppl stop comparing anyone to ronaldinho....ronaldinho is the maradona or pele of this century...stop trying to compare ppl to him cuz we all know that hes the best there is...the only reason y u compare him to other players cuz u wish that u had him in ur team or something close to him in ur team....ronaldinho is incomparable...stop it...robinho is not even close to being as good as ronaldinho nor is kaka.....just think b4 u write something like that again

Elia.A.
09-30-2005, 12:39 PM
ppl stop comparing anyone to ronaldinho....ronaldinho is the maradona or pele of this century...stop trying to compare ppl to him cuz we all know that hes the best there is...

agree :sad:

Elia.A.
09-30-2005, 12:41 PM
And about Robinho, he was overrated, yes. IMO that is not wat i expected from him

Lance Knight
09-30-2005, 12:50 PM
i wouldnt say that he is overrated but the fact that he isnt as phyiscally ready to play in such a tough league as this, if u realise alot of defenders just want a shot at him cuase of all the hype, and i say they should

Feras
09-30-2005, 02:28 PM
my post isnt about comparing Robinho to Ronaldinho .. read before u speak ppl for God's sake!!

I mentioned Ronaldinho as an example of a very effective tool to his club, I could have used Riquelme, Zidane, Cheva, Adriano ..etc those guys were crucial turning points to their teams and were able to make a difference

I dont see that coming from Robinho .. he didnt play the role of playmaker, nor scored that many goals!

Lance Knight
09-30-2005, 02:33 PM
i know, i am just stating another fact

plumTree
09-30-2005, 03:07 PM
Maybe u all just should give him some time? how long have he played in RM? he wasnt even on the big sparing tour RM did.. easy guys he will show his worth, if not this, next season.. im sure

Raulwillbeback
09-30-2005, 03:42 PM
Yea but i think he is overrated, as for a striker, his finsihing has sucked. Isnt it funny some people thought he had a chance to be our top scorer. Anyway he has a lot of work to do, before he can actually be a great, cause right now he has a lot of flaws. His dribbling is good but apart from that, he is average in the other stuff.

Feras
09-30-2005, 04:46 PM
Yea but i think he is overrated, as for a striker, his finsihing has sucked. Isnt it funny some people thought he had a chance to be our top scorer. Anyway he has a lot of work to do, before he can actually be a great, cause right now he has a lot of flaws. His dribbling is good but apart from that, he is average in the other stuff.

thats exactly my point .. thank you

Lance Knight
09-30-2005, 05:27 PM
Maybe u all just should give him some time? how long have he played in RM? he wasnt even on the big sparing tour RM did.. easy guys he will show his worth, if not this, next season.. im sure
that is what i was saying, give him some time, hell becks took a year and a half

Raulwillbeback
09-30-2005, 05:45 PM
yea but that is beckham, most people dounted him anyway, plus he came from the english game, which is on another planet compared to spanish football, but robinho came from brazil, which is very similar. what will time do? we already know his pros and cons, he has already adapted to spanish football, but he cant finish. That is an error in his skill not where he is playing. He was never known for finishing, so the best we can do is stick him on the left, cause there if he loses the ball, it wont cost the team too much. Hope his finishing gets better as he gets older, but that is not one of his strong points, driblling is.

Xikunahity
09-30-2005, 05:50 PM
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Ronaldo15
09-30-2005, 05:57 PM
I thought the Kid played good if not great for the time he was here, which is just a month. However, his finishing was lacking, otherwise you'all be singing his name right now.

Xikunahity
09-30-2005, 05:57 PM
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Ronaldo15
09-30-2005, 06:01 PM
Exactly, Raul hasnt played any football in the last 2 year, is he overrated?

actually, i know why Real fans think he's kind of overrated and thats because he doesnt score goals..but let me tell you this, there is more to futbol than just goals. Robinho helped Real Madrid without even scoring goals if you ask me.

Lance Knight
09-30-2005, 06:08 PM
actually its 4 good games, lol

Xikunahity
09-30-2005, 06:10 PM
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Ronaldo15
09-30-2005, 06:14 PM
actually its 4 good games, lol

Well i think so too, but how many games has he already played for us, 5 right?

Then that makes it only 1 bad game but hey no one is perfect, not even Ronaldo :D

Raulwillbeback
09-30-2005, 08:57 PM
right that down in front your computer, he is in real to teach not learn

He can only do if he is the best player we got but he is isnt. He isnt that great yet, he might be one day.

Raulwillbeback
09-30-2005, 09:02 PM
Ronaldo15, i never said robinho is crap, i am just saying he isnt as big as everyone is making him out to be. I will say this once, there will never be another pele. You are saying i am judging him too early, i might be, but if he is really that great of a player, why isnt he having the same impact ronaldo did? you are a ronaldo fan u should know. Remember ronaldo was younger than robinho when he became one of the world's best players ever. So right now, robinho is so far behind ronaldo. All i am saying if robinho will become a legend like ronaldo, there is still a lot of work to do. Right now i think he is over-rated, because all he does is tricks, when he starts scoring, which i hope is soon, then u can justify the great comments he gets.

Raulwillbeback
09-30-2005, 09:06 PM
Exactly, Raul hasnt played any football in the last 2 year, is he overrated?

actually, i know why Real fans think he's kind of overrated and thats because he doesnt score goals..but let me tell you this, there is more to futbol than just goals. Robinho helped Real Madrid without even scoring goals if you ask me.

Yea but that is not his job, the last time i checked he is a striker, so finishing is something he supposed to be able to do. He is not a midfielder. not a playmaker. oh yea if u check the stats, how many assists does he have? not as many as ronnie, who by the way is our top scorer in the league.

P.S what do u mean raul is over-rated? he has been insulted by almost all of you over the last 2 years, just cause he finally lost his form for the first time in his carrier. what was he over-rated for? werent there enough insults?

Xikunahity
10-01-2005, 01:07 AM
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Ronaldo15
10-01-2005, 02:57 AM
Yea but that is not his job, the last time i checked he is a striker, so finishing is something he supposed to be able to do. He is not a midfielder. not a playmaker. oh yea if u check the stats, how many assists does he have? not as many as ronnie, who by the way is our top scorer in the league.

P.S what do u mean raul is over-rated? he has been insulted by almost all of you over the last 2 years, just cause he finally lost his form for the first time in his carrier. what was he over-rated for? werent there enough insults?

Hold on buddy lol, I only gave you an example and asked you, was he overrated?

Robinho is in good form right now and still trying to get used to the Spanish futbol, yet because he cant finish some of the chances he gets and creates! people assume he's overrated.

Now what about Raul? who has been on poor form for the last 2 years and only scored few goals obviously due to his lack of finishing as well and ineffectiveness during games. Nonethless, we hear this from Raul fans! "he's not scoring goals because he's helping the defense, creating chances for his teamates etc. etc. But THATS not his job cuz he's a striker, right? see thats what you have said about Robinho, so was Raul too overrated?

notice, im using your logic here ;)

Hsain85
10-01-2005, 04:42 AM
Patience.. Patience..Patience
It's not a computer game.. it's not about soccer inside the field..
IT'S TOTALLY A NEW LIFE
you saw what he did in his first match.. and that's because he was very enthusiasm to prove himself.. but you should know that he's struggling to adapt, not in the field only.. but in the spanish life.
I am confident that roby will prove that he's No.1 in Madrid few weeks ahead of this week.
Robinho isn't overated, but we don't have any player that do 100% of his performance all the time. But you should observe.. wait and see.
( acctually that's what you can do ;) )

shado
10-01-2005, 06:32 AM
Hold on guys.....

Just because Raul had two good games after a long, long ...........long time.....U people want to to snub other players and project Raul at the expense of them.... Hope after he gets some more good games, you wont say are these players (Ronaldo and Zidane) are overrated????? :ronaldo: :ronaldo: :ronaldo: :ronaldo: :ronaldo:

That kid is Magic....and definetly a prize catch for Real Madrid, he is the future of Real.. because after Ronaldo, Zidane and Becks gone..he is the one who is going to take RM farword.

He might not become the next pele...but noticable thing is that the king (Pele) himself said .....Robinho is his sucessor...... He is a better judge that us.... But it will be a different matter if Robinho does not carry on from here..

Lance Knight
10-01-2005, 09:44 AM
people can we stick to robinho here please, lol

Raulwillbeback
10-01-2005, 12:01 PM
i am saying he wont be the next pele, get it? i am saying everyone is saying he is too good, eventhough he isnt. He will be a great player, but he will not rise to he level of zidane, pele or maradona, cause those players were just on a different planet compared to everyone else. I never said robinho should be kicked out of the team, all i am saying he shouldn't be rated as a future legend, because you never know how much he can improve, maybe this is his best u never know, look at denilson, also he shouldnt be classified as a striker. There is no way he is a striker, i think he would better in the midfield, where he can create for others, as we seen his finshing. Ronaldinho had this problem too when he arrived at barca. I think we should shape him as a playmaker, not a striker. I think of him as a replacement for zidane, as zidane is retiring at the end of this season.

Raulwillbeback
10-01-2005, 12:03 PM
To all ur question, about raul being over-rated. i will say yes, he was over-rated over the last 2 years, because he just wasnt doing his job. This season he is, so isnt anymore.