Aboriginies = Australians

[Majid]

I think australians descents are aboriginies... correct me if Im wrong !

[hardssa]

Ok.....

Aboriginies have inhabited the land for thousands of years. In 1788 James Cook from England settled Australia while looking for land to dump convicts from overcrowded jails in England. So in a way the aborigines land was taken. So whats your point? :confused:

[ema_scg]

Ok.....

Aboriginies have inhabited the land for thousands of years. In 1788 James Cook from England settled Australia while looking for land to dump convicts from overcrowded jails in England. So in a way the aborigines land was taken. So whats your point? :confused:

I think he was trying to ask whether Australians descend from Aboriginies? Is that what you're trying to say Majid?

[davor_suker]

I think australians descents are aboriginies... correct me if Im wrong !

Youre wrong.

Australia is just like the USA - a multicultural country, except Australia was settled as a place to dump convicts as Hardssa has said already. Its like the Indians in America - you arent all decended from them are you?

[Majid]

Ok.....

Aboriginies have inhabited the land for thousands of years. In 1788 James Cook from England settled Australia while looking for land to dump convicts from overcrowded jails in England. So in a way the aborigines land was taken. So whats your point? :confused:

yes actually you do agree that the land was taken from the aboriginies which was autoctone people in Australia..

[Majid]

Youre wrong.

Australia is just like the USA - a multicultural country, except Australia was settled as a place to dump convicts as Hardssa has said already. Its like the Indians in America - you arent all decended from them are you?

yes australia is a multicultural country now but before the english invanted australia the land belonged to another race Aboroginies !

[davor_suker]

yes australia is a multicultural country now but before the english invanted australia the land belonged to another race Aboroginies !


Whats your point? Same can be said with the Indians and the US. Its pointless arguing that we "invaded" them because without "invading" these places two of the best nations in the world (Australia and the USA) Wouldnt exist.

[Majid]

I think he was trying to ask whether Australians descend from Aboriginies? Is that what you're trying to say Majid?

yea you guees right :D

[Majid]

Whats your point? Same can be said with the Indians and the US. Its pointless arguing that we "invaded" them because without "invading" these places two of the best nations in the world (Australia and the USA) Wouldnt exist.


nothing bad only that i want be sure it wasnt english land but they invandet it and now the country speaks english.. ur either not australian ur croat :D

[wolverine]

I think australians descents are aboriginies... correct me if Im wrong !

Nope, aborigines are the original native people that inhabited Australlia. They had a nomadic kind of culture. Majority of them were killed when the European settlers took over. It's similar to the story of the native people in the what is now called USA. Cruel bloody lessons from the past ... but thats history.

Infact during the period 'when the sun ne'er set on the British empire', Britain used Australlia a jail for their prisoners (something like Siberia). Then there was a period of gold rush in Australlia which again brought in Europeans (mainly British) and laborers. So as of now its a multicultural society. But they are mostly of British descend.

[philipas]

Whats your point? Same can be said with the Indians and the US. Its pointless arguing that we "invaded" them because without "invading" these places two of the best nations in the world (Australia and the USA) Wouldnt exist. Two of the best nations for 'white' people maybe, but not for Aboriginal people in Australia, who suffer from higher incarceration (prison sentences), infant mortality rates, unemployment, suicide rates, general health and poverty. But, Australians have been trying to change this unacceptable situation and this country has done much more to address the issues of Indigenous people than other countries, but still needs to do more. We're all still waiting for our weasal, right wing prime minister to say sorry, but doesn't look like he's man enough to do it.

By the way Majid, where are you from, if you read this, which I assume you will, since you started this thread???

[philipas]

Nope, aborigines are the original native people that inhabited Australlia. They had a nomadic kind of culture. Majority of them were killed when the European settlers took over. It's similar to the story of the native people in the what is now called USA. Cruel bloody lessons from the past ... but thats history..Yeah, I would tend to agree with most of this, but you can't group all Aboriginal people into one basket. An Aboriginal from Northern Queensland is totally unrelated to one from Victoria. In fact, there are over 500 different groups with 250 different languages. I'll just add to this that Aboriginal people find it offensive for them to be reffered to as 'aborigines' with the A in lower case, as if they are artefacts or something, but I understand how most people are not aware of this, because until lately we learnt very little about their history and issues.

Infact during the period 'when the sun ne'er set on the British empire', Britain used Australlia a jail for their prisoners (something like Siberia). Then there was a period of gold rush in Australlia which again brought in Europeans (mainly British) and laborers. So as of now its a multicultural society. But they are mostly of British descend. This is mainly true, although a bit simplistic. There were other migration periods than the gold rush days and after WWII many non-British migrants were invited to come to Australia because Australia needed manpower to build its industries and it felt threatened by a perceived 'Asian invasion' the so-called 'Yellow Peril" and the belief that it needed to 'Populate or Perish'. Australia is a very multicultural country now, with the largest groups coming from Italy, Greece and Vietnam.

[wolverine]

But I guess most ppl pretend to be ignorant of this and prefer to bask in the present day's glory. As I said the clock cannot be reversed but good to hear that something is being done but it'll be good if guys know their stuff (like u).

Anyway two good posts philipas :thumbsup:

[hardssa]

And remeber this isn't just an Australian issue... through the ages people have killed for land and provided injustices on inhabitants of land. Its just been a way of progressing the human race. However the idea that the original inhabitants of this land were killed and given diseases from overseas is disgusting. But i wouldn't be here if Australia wasn't settled by the English.

[QuicK Silv3r]

So what does this have to do with soccer ROFL :D.

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[PAO_HELLAS]

yes australia is a multicultural country now but before the english invanted australia the land belonged to another race Aboroginies !

Yes, that is the subject in just 2 lines :D.

[ARBANITAI]

I think australians descents are aboriginies... correct me if Im wrong !

yes the australian first inhabitants were aborigines before english invanted Australia thats what i learned in school..lol

[tikica8]

Haha it's funny how the word "invaded" keeps being used..the proper term is "settled". And yeah most aussie's decended from english convicts, so if you come here for a visit...WATCH YOUR HANDBAG!

hehe jjks!

[ARBANITAI]

oh you may sorry me :evil:

[hardssa]

Haha it's funny how the word "invaded" keeps being used..the proper term is "settled". And yeah most aussie's decended from english convicts, so if you come here for a visit...WATCH YOUR HANDBAG!

hehe jjks!
Not if you come to Adelaide... only city settled without convicts :lol:

[PAO_HELLAS]

Haha it's funny how the word "invaded" keeps being used..the proper term is "settled". And yeah most aussie's decended from english convicts, so if you come here for a visit...WATCH YOUR HANDBAG!

hehe jjks!

For me ''settling'', is making settlement at a land which was not inhabited before. I believe conquering a land is an ''invasion''. What strange do you see :D ?

[AusFootball]

Oh and guys, their not Aboriginies, their the Indiginous People of Australia as they would like to be called.

[philipas]

Oh and guys, their not Aboriginies, their the Indiginous People of Australia as they would like to be called. You're right, or at least Aboriginal people with a capital A.

[dingoyank]

Ok, I'm living here with a bunch of ignorant seppo's and constantly have to put up with there F$#%ing ignorance about Australia, then I go to find out news about our beloved socceroos......... and find this useless tripe!!!!!
For starters Captain Cook did not settle Australia in 1778, he discovered the east coast in 1770, Capt. Arthur Phillip, R.N. was commissioned as the first Governor of New South Wales. He set sail on May 13th, 1787 from
Portsmouth with 11 vessels. He arrived in N.S.W. with 717
convicts of whom 180 were women, guarded by 191 marines under 19
officers. These are not Aborigines, as if anybody bothered to pickup a dictionary Aborigine means the original inhabitants or natives, just like indigenous. Captain Cook was killed on a return visit to Hawaii in 1780, long before the First Fleet Landed. Go socceroos..... lets put our efforts into something we know and care about shall we????

[AusFootball]

lets put our efforts into something we know and care about shall we????

agreed. who's the clown that started this random topic in the first place?? :brick:

[hardssa]

agreed. who's the clown that started this random topic in the first place?? :brick:
Read the first post and you'll understand how a topic like this was brought up :ronaldo:

[Yorugua]

Hey, i´m from Uruguay and i´ve been reading this thread for a while now, since we beat Argentina and knew we have to play the WC play-offs with Australia.

This thread got my attention more than others though, i think you aussies don´t realize how lucky you are that your society is formed by inmigrants and natives, you probably don´t know much about Uruguay so let me fill you in.
One of our forefathers, a very ignorant and stupid one, back around the 1800´ had all our native population slaughtered because they couldn´t control them, this is something that every uruguayan is sooooooooo ashame of, it´s a huge embarassment for us, so much that we call ourselver "Charruas" (the name of the indian tribe that inhabited our land before the spanish came), nowadays there are no Charruas left, we call ourselfves Charruas in honor to them, we try to keep their memory alive as much as we can, we have accquired many of their ways, every uruguayan likes to think, eventhough we know it´s impossible, that we have at least a bit of Charrua blood, we still thing their spirit is alive in us, thats why everybody calls the way of Uruguay of playing football "garra Charrua" (Charruas warrior spirit).

We are a country in wich all of its people are direct descendants from europeans, mostly spanish and italian, and you can bet all of us would love to have also Charrua descendance, so.................yes aboriginies=australians, it was their land first than yours, now it´s yours also of course, and you should all consider yourselves as one mixing your cultures to form only one...................the Australian culture............they should be part as you british descendants as well as you should form part of their aboriginies descendance...............afeter all..............YOU´RE ALL AUSTRALIANS!!!!!

[AusFootball]

sometimes we feel the same way...

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[quenonino]

Hey, i´m from Uruguay and i´ve been reading this thread for a while now, since we beat Argentina and knew we have to play the WC play-offs with Australia.

This thread got my attention more than others though, i think you aussies don´t realize how lucky you are that your society is formed by inmigrants and natives, you probably don´t know much about Uruguay so let me fill you in.
One of our forefathers, a very ignorant and stupid one, back around the 1800´ had all our native population slaughtered because they couldn´t control them, this is something that every uruguayan is sooooooooo ashame of, it´s a huge embarassment for us, so much that we call ourselver "Charruas" (the name of the indian tribe that inhabited our land before the spanish came), nowadays there are no Charruas left, we call ourselfves Charruas in honor to them, we try to keep their memory alive as much as we can, we have accquired many of their ways, every uruguayan likes to think, eventhough we know it´s impossible, that we have at least a bit of Charrua blood, we still thing their spirit is alive in us, thats why everybody calls the way of Uruguay of playing football "garra Charrua" (Charruas warrior spirit).

We are a country in wich all of its people are direct descendants from europeans, mostly spanish and italian, and you can bet all of us would love to have also Charrua descendance, so.................yes aboriginies=australians, it was their land first than yours, now it´s yours also of course, and you should all consider yourselves as one mixing your cultures to form only one...................the Australian culture............they should be part as you british descendants as well as you should form part of their aboriginies descendance...............afeter all..............YOU´RE ALL AUSTRALIANS!!!!!

Well said Yorugua! Vamo arriba los charruas!(Eso si no les cuentes lo de Solis porque por ahi la quedamos.. :evil: Nos han tratado de todo no te olvides con esto del soccer-No les vayas a decir que somos capaces de "comernoslos crudos" :evil: :lol: (Exchanging some historical facts with my compatriot...saying the "warrior spirit of Uruguayans in soccer" is alive and well. ;) ...Regarding the "mixing of cultures" to form one(fusion?asimilation? )...We Australians are trying hard...but this "mixing pot" is hard to cook (and I for one support multiculturalism).....Sometimes this melting pot is pure aroma and celebration and others..well it smells like stew :rolleyes: :lol:as u could notice in some interventions.
What a topic that of an Australian identity!