View Full Version : Fergies Biggest Mistake
nachi88
07-18-2005, 02:46 PM
We all know that Sir Alex Fergusson, is probably one of the biggest coaches in modern football. He has won it all in club football. But he too has his share of errors.
which of the following do you think was his biggest mistake-
1) Selling away Jaap Stam to Lazio- Jaap stam was the central figure in the united defense. When he left, United had to manage with oldies like irwin, and no gooder silvestre for the season. Wes brown also couldnt live up to the hype.
2) Selling Beckham to real madrid- Beckham was very frustraed after the shoe in the head incident, and also Beckham was a main contributor of crosses for Man UTD.
3) Buying Veron- need I even say more. He cost 27 m and did absolutely nothing. A zero impact player.
4) Other mistake you guys think should be pointed out.
Vote now
AstonVillafan3
07-18-2005, 06:50 PM
Veron was talented really talented how'd he know it wasn't gonna work??
To be honest selling Beckham was kinda bad....Stam.... ummmm
I guess selling Beckham was the worst thing...
RaulMadrid7
07-18-2005, 08:27 PM
Veron was talented really talented how'd he know it wasn't gonna work??
To be honest selling Beckham was kinda bad....Stam.... ummmm
I guess selling Beckham was the worst thing...
You say selling Beckham was the worst thing, but I'm the only one on that list that voted for the Beckham move and there are 2 votes for Stam, and Nachi and you are the other 2.
So if you guess something, then why pick the opposite?
nachi88
07-18-2005, 08:45 PM
You say selling Beckham was the worst thing, but I'm the only one on that list that voted for the Beckham move and there are 2 votes for Stam, and Nachi and you are the other 2.
So if you guess something, then why pick the opposite?
relax raulmadrid...
probably aston didnt vote, and just made the post, and some one else voted, but didnt make a post. That why we see 2 for stam, and one for beckham.
:ronaldo:
Giggsy11
07-18-2005, 09:36 PM
1- Selling Beckham. ( He will never be replaced, IMO)
2- Selling Yorke and Cole. ( Cole alone is better than Ruud , IMO)
3- Selling Stam. ( replacing a monsterous defender who's got the built and strength is very hard, IMO)
AstonVillafan3
07-18-2005, 10:13 PM
Didn't vote Raul jesus u jump the gun.
Lance Knight
07-18-2005, 10:19 PM
selling yorke before he got shitty and making a 11mil profit on him was the best thing fergie did,
the worst was selling beckham
then stam
penalty_20
07-18-2005, 10:53 PM
the worst was when he sold becks but he always has reasons when he sells players and ruud is just as good as cole
Jam Master
07-19-2005, 12:00 AM
Alex Ferguson hasnt had many bad decisions but these are bad decisions but IMO the worst is not putting the extra million to sign IMO the best player in the world Ronaldinho.
Now what football club wouldnt put that extra million to sign the best player in the world.
I was really pissed off when I found out that we didnt sign him I was on holidays the news started thar we were trying to sign him and I didnt have any contacts to find out the news so when I got home I had to watch sky sports news, sky news, home news, tele text, the internet and all my friends to start to believe that this happend.
Giggsy11
07-19-2005, 08:43 AM
I think Yorke got shitty because of certain reasons...I don't think "Sheva" will be as great as he is now if he moves from a giant club like "ac milan" to another smaller club like "fulham" or " Man city" etc...
The player has won major titles with UTD and he got used to play to win titles ..so having been at the top and suddenly seeing yourself nearing the bottom is definitely gonna kill the strongest hope and will destroy any player no matter who it is, IMO.
Automatic steps downward can worsen the suituation..when steps forward can enhance it... The same thing with Cole...
And Cole was a better striker than Ruud and had a better striking sense. I don't think Ruud is flexiable enough to "scissor" (double-kick) the ball and score, like Andy used to do. Plus most of Cole's goals with united were amazing and wonderous, when %70 of Ruud's goals are penalty kicks.
Well they're all different opinions at the end ...
Mirko Mandic
07-19-2005, 09:43 AM
Cole and Yorke were class at UTD worst mistake made breaking up them two and killing off beckhams service, hell becks arint to good of player imo but he had great service and set piece.
Jam Master
07-19-2005, 12:44 PM
Yeah but they were together at Blackburn and they werent half as dominent there as they were with United.
Mirko Mandic
07-19-2005, 01:16 PM
and blackburn had the same service coming to them sure duff and dunn but who else no player like a Scholes or Keane
penalty_20
07-19-2005, 01:49 PM
I think Yorke got shitty because of certain reasons...I don't think "Sheva" will be as great as he is now if he moves from a giant club like "ac milan" to another smaller club like "fulham" or " Man city" etc...
The player has won major titles with UTD and he got used to play to win titles ..so having been at the top and suddenly seeing yourself nearing the bottom is definitely gonna kill the strongest hope and will destroy any player no matter who it is, IMO.
Automatic steps downward can worsen the suituation..when steps forward can enhance it... The same thing with Cole...
And Cole was a better striker than Ruud and had a better striking sense. I don't think Ruud is flexiable enough to "scissor" (double-kick) the ball and score, like Andy used to do. Plus most of Cole's goals with united were amazing and wonderous, when %70 of Ruud's goals are penalty kicks.
Well they're all different opinions at the end ...
we all have different opinions but IMO ruud is just as good cuz who cares how they score the goals one team doesnt win just because they scored better goals than the other team its the scoresheet that matter and i have seen some pretty amazing goals by van nistelrooy
nachi88
07-19-2005, 04:25 PM
I am suprised you guys rate Yorke so highly. He was a one season wonder... and he was very predictable..
it was allways like this...
keane in the centre with the ball.. back passes to gary neville who overlaps, and give a good pass to beckham , who fakes a cross, and then side steps and crosses in side the box... yorke jumps and scores...
apart from the 98/99 season when he scored lots of goals, i never saw have that much of an impact on united.
Another thing, I forgot to add fergies other mistake, of not using forlan to the maximum. Look what he's doing in la liga now... forlan surely is better than both saha and alan smith.
penalty_20
07-19-2005, 06:51 PM
it wasnt fergies fault about forlan it was forlan he just wasnt perfoming for man united he was in a slump he left got out of the slump and became amazing it happens to lots of players
RaulMadrid7
07-19-2005, 10:06 PM
I think Forlan just didn't somehow fit in in the EPL with Manchester United, he is argueably one of the best strikers in the world scoring more goals than Ronaldo and Eto'o in La Liga while playing for Villarreal.
And that's why he is on my Master League squad(Real Verde). :D
penalty_20
07-19-2005, 10:40 PM
I think that his style of play just didnt suit man united
DKulla
07-20-2005, 02:52 AM
selling beckham could be replaced easier...they got c ronaldo which i don't think is as big as peiople make him out to be....but then again neither was beckham.
Stam on the other hand, is a superb defender. I thikn he was the best defender for milan last season....i was very impressed. manu shuold not have sold him to lazio or in Italy for that matter.
penguin_007
07-20-2005, 08:24 AM
according to beckham's autobiography, ferguson sold becks because during that time, beckham was putting more emphasis on the national team, he was also shooting some commercials with his wife in asia, and lastly he did not show strong objection to going to real madrid. he phoned his agent from thailand saying that he wants to go to real madrid.
penalty_20
07-20-2005, 09:03 PM
Becks not getting along with ferguson doesnt help either
Lance Knight
07-20-2005, 09:31 PM
i change my mind, breaking up the Andy Cole and Yorke partnership was the worst thing ever done in the histroy of football, i was watching this show and the had the top ten best striking partnerships or all time, and they got first place
penalty_20
07-20-2005, 09:34 PM
yes their partnership was amazing but ruud helps alot maybe if they could form a trio lol
Lance Knight
07-20-2005, 09:48 PM
amm how could they form a trio, that all ready happen, hell they arent even a duo anymore
penalty_20
07-20-2005, 09:51 PM
lol i know if i were a manager from any team id buy them as a pair but sell them separate
Mirko Mandic
07-21-2005, 05:48 AM
it wasnt fergies fault about forlan it was forlan he just wasnt perfoming for man united he was in a slump he left got out of the slump and became amazing it happens to lots of players
its the managers job to bring the player out of a slump.
Look at Rafa he works wonders as the saying goes "Any man who can lead a team with Djimi Traore and Igor Biscan(he dont get enough credit great player) (as key players mind you) Is a miricle worker!!"
holicman
07-21-2005, 12:08 PM
Massimo Taibi, that goalkeeper that lasted for 3 games..............probably a big mistake Ferguson was able to identify earlier than he would care to admit.
penalty_20
07-21-2005, 07:26 PM
nah it wasnt that big of a mistake players come and go
Becks
07-22-2005, 02:24 AM
Fergie DID use Forlan, but Forlan could never deliver a worthy performance.
Yorke made the 98/99 season possible.
penalty_20
07-22-2005, 02:52 AM
Fergie DID use Forlan, but Forlan could never deliver a worthy performance.
Yorke made the 98/99 season possible.
thankyou becks u nailed it perfectly about forlan
nachi88
07-22-2005, 09:22 AM
Fergie DID use Forlan, but Forlan could never deliver a worthy performance.
Yorke made the 98/99 season possible.
i agree on forlan...
but what did yorke do after the 98/99 season.. he wn in the background and older strikers like sheringham totally took over his place.
Becks
07-22-2005, 10:19 AM
But at least for one season Yorke proved he was worthy for United.
Something Forlan did not accomplish.
Lance Knight
07-22-2005, 10:50 AM
agreed it seemed that forlan wasnt fitting well witht he team,
Becks
07-22-2005, 11:06 AM
Of course he didn't fit well. The English style did not fit him, so he could not progress.
Mirko Mandic
07-22-2005, 01:21 PM
its all about a change from playing free flowing football with possesional play and then going to........ long balls :boring: and if the manager had movitated him enough he would have scored 15+ a season ie. look at Biscan if Rafa never came his talent which to people who had seen him play before (in CM no CB stupid houlier buys 5m CM to play him as CB) was not such a suprise turned out some match winning performances in CL were he felt comfortable so if Diego Forlan felt more accustom to the team and 'THIER STYLE OF PLAY' he would have done better and your Gaffer didnt ensure that from him.
penalty_20
07-22-2005, 01:25 PM
u dont know what the gaffer tried we dont sit in on their training sessions
Mirko Mandic
07-22-2005, 01:29 PM
if the gaffer tried something there would be some kind of result.
penalty_20
07-22-2005, 06:16 PM
oh yeh i dont doubt fergies ability at all i think its just forlan
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