Seria A Team Comparation

[Sebastian]

...the Transfer campaigne of INTER...MILAN and JUVE is gettin frenzy...:evil:...and it's pretty obvious which player will come after those official ones...but we'll discuss and analise the curent teams and the official players that arrived in these three TITANS...it seems that JUVE surprised everyone when the signed one of the best central mid fielders VIERA...they have made their central mid field arguably the est in the footall...

-------EMERSON----VIERA-----
CAMORANESI-------------NEDVED---

....:shocked:....i cant believe this...:confused:...

and MILAN are gonna sign GILARDINO these days wich will made them the most offansive squad in seria A...they wil be offansively superiour to us....they have the est forwards you can imagine...

----------KAKA---------
SHEVA------------GILARDINO--

...:confused:....this cant get any better...this is the best forward in the world...+they have INZAGHI and VIERI on the bench...it's not that i envy that they got VIERI...but the guy can e pretty deadly when inserted from the bench...

their defenders are extremely powrefull and reliable+ damn consistent...it is obvious that if we dont sign a world class forward...we'll be far bihind MILAN'S firepower...ADRIANO is the best..but alone he cant do much...and dont preach me aout MARTINSand how fast he can be...:rolleyes:...just dont lie you're self the way we did in the past pre seasons...:rolleyes:...

our mid field will be damn cool...but i think JUVE have made it the best...it's so obvious...perhaps ours it'll be better than MILAN'S but as a team and with their strikers i think they will be better than INTER...ofcourse if we sign CASSANO all that will change..but like this i canallready imagine ADRIANO strugling like he did last season when he was partnered by MARTINS...cos this second didnt made space for ADRIANO at all...now if there's RECOBA in the picture things might work damn cool...but here i speak without reflection as it's certain that MANCINI doesnt fancy him at all...
...it was a mistake when we didnt sold VIERI last season...and not replaced him with another world class high profile ass kicker...:mad2:...now there's a lot of players that we lack on various positions and getting another world class striker is pretty unlikely as we allready have to sign defenders and mid fielders...when you'll realise the cash we spended so far you'll came to the conclusion that this isnt that much...and that everything must e done to sign a world class striker who will be worthy of ADRIANO'S high profile and stile...

JUVE have too world class strikers...IBRA and TREZEGUET...although i wouldnt clasify this first as a world class...but he's regarded like that...they have DEL PIERO and MUTU...this is pretty awesome forward arsenal...

as for MILAN'S i wont even comment...

...now look at ours....ADRIANO...:smoking:..CRUZ...RECOBA and MARTINS....somehow it cant be regarded as world class arsenal...i think this is the first time that we have an average forward arsenal(ofcourse except ADRIANO)...and im so damn glad that we didnt signed MAKINWA...

...as you can see...things wont be easier next season for US...+ MILAN and JUVE have wayyy better coaches than INTER...:rolleyes:...it seems that MILAN and JUVE will be better than us...butwe'll have to wait till the last day in the transfer market...who knows maby MORATTI will bring RONALDO...;)...who knows..but so far we're bihind our arch rivals...this is pretty realistic opinion...without those empty and pointless phrases"THIS IS THE YEAR...WE'RE THE BEST...WE'RE FINALY COMPLETE"...:rolleyes:...

[GiorgioII]

Inter:
Defence 7/10
Midfield 9/10
Attack 9/10
Total: 25/30

Milan:
Defence 10/10
Midfield 9/10
Attack 10/10
Total: 29/30

Juve:
Defence 9/10
Midfield 9.5/10
Attack 8.5/10
Total: 27/30

I guess that is a bit of a simplistic way of looking at things, but that clearly shows that we are the weakest of the Scudetto challengers in terms of personnel available. However form also plays a large part and hopefully we can gain the advantage there. If we can sign Samuel our defence will be a 9/10. Cassano is a tough player for me to decide on. I would prefer Recoba to be given one last chance as Adriano's partner. If he is played regularly I have no doubt that he can be the most crucial factor in the race for the title :evil: .

[chu_chu]

Inter:
Defence 7/10
Midfield 9/10
Attack 9/10
Total: 25/30

Milan:
Defence 10/10
Midfield 9/10
Attack 10/10
Total: 29/30

Juve:
Defence 9/10
Midfield 9.5/10
Attack 8.5/10
Total: 27/30

I guess that is a bit of a simplistic way of looking at things, but that clearly shows that we are the weakest of the Scudetto challengers in terms of personnel available. However form also plays a large part and hopefully we can gain the advantage there. If we can sign Samuel our defence will be a 9/10. Cassano is a tough player for me to decide on. I would prefer Recoba to be given one last chance as Adriano's partner. If he is played regularly I have no doubt that he can be the most crucial factor in the race for the title :evil: .

i don't think samuel's arrival would immediately boost our defense into 9.... its not that i don't trust samuel... i still couldn't imagine how cordoba and samuel work the defense together.... but to be fair i would give 8... coz it would take time for them to form the best partnership in defense...

[Ryan27]

Rating teams on paper doesn't mean anything. If they did, Inter would have been winning the scudetto these past years. Also, Greece wouldn't have won Euro 2004 and so forth....

[chu_chu]

whatever juve or milan pull in transfer market... inter have very big chance to win the scudetto... i'm pretty sure... and giorgio's banner says it all... very cool!!! :thumbsup: i just saw it... didn't notice it was there ;)

[evilmact]

In favour of Inter I'll say they were the team that played the best football last season, it took a while for the players and the coach to stabilize the team, but now they have one year of experience, the coach knows very well the players, their virtues and deficiencies, now is important to keep in that line.

Reinforcements have been made where they were needed, we are still missing a CB but we are getting one for sure. Figo is also arriving... I'm not going to discuss here if this is good or not, but I think we also need a true winger to play in the right and he is an option.

We have good players and that's important, but more important will be to play like what they are, a team. If they do (like they been doing recently) they'll be able to defeat anyone, no matter if they're playing against Pele or Maradona. :thumbsup:

[devious]

They say that Juve will win the next year no doubt cause they signed Vierra and they will have this:
-------EMERSON----VIERA-----
CAMORANESI-------------NEDVED---

And others say that Milan will win cause they will sign Gila and also they have this:
Cafu----Stam---Nesta---Maldini

but Unfortunatly..
On paper Inter have been the best team in the world for 10 years, 10 years we had most of the biggest signings in the world of football, and every time we were decived by our good looking, and we always say that we will win every thing! but we didnt win even the small trophies.. you know why?, because we were in a hurry, we make too many changes and buying new players every year and changing player`s position, we werent stable, we were lost.. a coach every 6 months was a big prove.
NOW.. Inter didnt make big changes like they always do, old Interistis only will recognize this and that`s what I call that we are learning, Moratti is learning.. after 10 years I belive this man knows exactly what he is doing in Inter, bringing a new youngster coach that for sure have a great and awsome future in the coaching business.. he is still young and he is winning countless trophies, and everyday he wins or loses he learn.. even we Inter fans, we are learning more than any fan on the planet, Ive learn that stability is the soul of the team, the loyality is the heart of the team, Ive learned that big names and money dont give anything without the heart and the soul of the team.. the carcase of a big team is Resourses + Experiance + luck, they have it all.. but the carcase of a succeful is the heart and soul of the team and we have it all, football have been changed now.. Liverpool have won an impossible win over a team that have better Resourses + Experiance + luck becasue Liverpool had the soul and the team heart, same with Greece in Euro, and Porto in CL and the list will go on and on.. the problem that some of us is still decived by the big names, but if they look in the first place, they will find that those big names were made when they played by thier souls and heart.. then they became big names.. but once they forget that.. they will become nothing (Real Madrid is a realistic prove).
I can see a complete stable team in Inter, that have been learning and building for a future that will never ends.. Inter`s golden age is coming no doubts, Milan and Juve will go through a big trap of illusion that Inter have just scaped away from.. and now Inter is ready to kick ass, Inter is the one that actuly 1000% ready while you will fall in the deap dark hole of illusion.
oh btw.. say hello to Real when you find them down.

[Sebastian]

...if SAMUEL arrive the defense wont be ideal...there's the need of a left back...i dont have any doubts that SAMUEL and CORDOBA duo wont succeed...they will be awesome....it's just the forward thats worries me...

[GiorgioII]

it's just the forward thats worries me...

Let's put our faith in Recoba and Martins. If they can find their best form they can both bring something different to the attack alongside Adriano.

[Ryan27]

Let's put our faith in Recoba and Martins. If they can find their best form they can both bring something different to the attack alongside Adriano.
Just watch the highlights from the Sampdoria match :smoking: . Recoba assisted on Martins, then Martins did all the work for the Vieri goal, and then that fabulous Recoba blast. Those two were brilliant and did it all after Adriano had been subbed off. Or the Juve comeback...Recoba set up Vieri and Martins crossed to Adriano...How could anyone not want to give those guys their shot? In our trio of Adriano, Recoba, and Martins, we have an attack that is capable of beating you in every way possible.

[nismo]

When Milan won in 1999, no one expected it with such a strong Lazio. The same with Valencia in Spain. I think if Inter have some self-belief and rely on each other's strengths, we could do it. There's no reason why. The transfer market is not over yet, so anything can still happen. But right now, we're definitely behind our rivals on paper

[GiorgioII]

Like you have all said the strongest team on paper does not always win the titles. However, for a team to win the title they do need to be solid in all areas and have no weaknesses. So even if Milan do end up with a stronger squad as long as we have the right components we can work together to beat them to the title. The same applies to Juve. The solidity factor is a defender. Chivu, Samuel or Kompany. Any will do.

[Sebastian]

Just watch the highlights from the Sampdoria match :smoking: . Recoba assisted on Martins, then Martins did all the work for the Vieri goal, and then that fabulous Recoba blast. Those two were brilliant and did it all after Adriano had been subbed off. Or the Juve comeback...Recoba set up Vieri and Martins crossed to Adriano...How could anyone not want to give those guys their shot? In our trio of Adriano, Recoba, and Martins, we have an attack that is capable of beating you in every way possible.

...man it's so frustrating to see RECOBA on the bench cos when ever he plays he allways imresses the crowd...and scores the most biutifull goals...i dont unsertand why MANCINI doesnt play with them three up front....:confused:....it's not that i love RECOBA...the guy is created for trequartista or FANTASISTA if you preffer....you need a guy who can score goals from distance while the two strikers confuse the defenders...this is the best possible way to beat strong defenses...like MILAN and JUVE'S....he always inserted RECOBA when his ass was burning...that imbecil...why???becouse all thier differences didnt mattered in those last moments when he couldnt faced the fact that he could lose and he could lose his job as well...when ever he played RECOBA he saved his ass and the game against SAMPDORIA????...RECOBA proved how psichologicaly strong he is and how well he can perform under preassure...when we lost the SCUDETTO 02' ALVARO and DI BIAGIO were the only players who played and fought hard till the end while the others were just walking arround like junkies....
...that triangle would be magical...we know ho deadly ADRIANO-RECOBA thandem can be....they've scored like nuts...until this idiot ruined that....now if MANCINI signs CORRADI or DI VAIO...he'll just prove how ignorant and stupid he can be...these two are worst strikers we can sign...you need a creative striker to partner a demolition man like ADRIANO...who will probably become the best striker in HISTORY...:smoking:...

[GiorgioII]

Rumours linking us to those two make me feel sick. If anyone it has to be Cassano. Other than that there is no need to sign another striker.

[Sebastian]

When Milan won in 1999, no one expected it with such a strong Lazio. The same with Valencia in Spain. I think if Inter have some self-belief and rely on each other's strengths, we could do it. There's no reason why. The transfer market is not over yet, so anything can still happen. But right now, we're definitely behind our rivals on paper

...i dont think that MILAN or JUVE will underatimate us...they will just destroy us completely...we shouldnt forget that JUVE beside that nuclear team has the best coach in the business and MILAN have a crowned tactitian with all eminent titles too....unlike ours who won the coppa...:rolleyes:...he might lose it again...last season we were better than bouth of our rivals and still we got screwed...the defense could've been better and we had the players...MATERAZZI and CORDOBA allmost won the scudetto so the problem is in the coach who didnt knew which player to pick...:confused:...and he lost it he isolated some the best players we had and his season turned to crap....if we're not better then these two and we know that MANCINI is insicure and hasty...then how can we hope of victory..unless we strenghten the teaM with world class ass kickers...

[chu_chu]

btw how come our squad were better than juve and milan last year when we didn't have world class defense and just signed a less experience coach...? juve had everything covered and we don't... well if ancelotti and capello were geniuses when they played too defensively.. i think you could also put cuper in that list, mind you we almost won scudetto with cuper's defensive tactic... how could such geniuses like ancelotti and capello were beaten by liverpool's coach? btw liverpool, at least, have better defense than ours... and we also kicked juve butt last season... and inter were facing a perfect team with the best coach in the world... i think you'd better not underestimate mancini's ability.

the reason why mancini isolated some players coz he tried to find which players were made for his tactics... some coach also did that on their first year... you forgot that we were the most solid team in the 2nd half of last season without world class defensive line-up.... once we win scudetto this year, i think you can simply forget the mistakes he made.... ^^

[Ryan27]

I believe Mancini will give Recoba his chances early on. I don't see why Mancini wouldn't give him a clean slate to start with.

AND PLEASE! NO CORRADI OR DI VIAO!

[Ryan27]

the reason why mancini isolated some players coz he tried to find which players were made for his tactics... some coach also did that on their first year... you forgot that we were the most solid team in the 2nd half of last season without world class defensive line-up.... once we win scudetto this year, i think you can simply forget the mistakes he made.... ^^
Yup, this is the year to truly evaluate Mancini. Inter have always been too quick to give managers the sack.

[chu_chu]

I believe Mancini will give Recoba his chances early on. I don't see why Mancini wouldn't give him a clean slate to start with.

AND PLEASE! NO CORRADI OR DI VIAO!

corradi no... but i think di vaio deserve an inter shirt...

[Sebastian]

btw how come our squad were better than juve and milan last year when we didn't have world class defense and just signed a less experience coach...? juve had everything covered and we don't... well if ancelotti and capello were geniuses when they played too defensively.. i think you could also put cuper in that list, mind you we almost won scudetto with cuper's defensive tactic... how could such geniuses like ancelotti and capello were beaten by liverpool's coach? btw liverpool, at least, have better defense than ours... and we also kicked juve butt last season... and inter were facing a perfect team with the best coach in the world... i think you'd better not underestimate mancini's ability.

the reason why mancini isolated some players coz he tried to find which players were made for his tactics... some coach also did that on their first year... you forgot that we were the most solid team in the 2nd half of last season without world class defensive line-up.... once we win scudetto this year, i think you can simply forget the mistakes he made.... ^^

.....if you call ZEBINA...OLIVERA...APPIAH...TACHINARDI and BLASI a quality cover up on the positiones that they occupy...then i dont know what's quality...:confused:...EMERSON was alone in the central mid field while NEDVED worked his ass there....we had 10 times better mid field then JUVE and a better forward...

the forward was fearsome...we had better forward than any other seria A team...only REAL could matched ours...the bench was awesome and it was better too...i couldnt believe that we finished third...if you want to build a team arround the defense go ahead...but the team was complete FAVALLI and COCO for the left...JAVIER and ZE MARIA for the right and a shit load of central...sure there wasnt NESTA or STAM but they were good...you say that JUVE were complete???...so i guess ZEBINA is a great defender eh????all INTER defender are better then him....

....the defense wasnt as good as MILAN'S but it was good to all defansive standards...last months everything worked pretty cool....we had COCO...and GAMARA who are great players...aspecially this second...:rolleyes:...
...Mancini lost him self and did a whole bunch of crap...while CAPELLO and ANCELOTTI played all their players aspecially the forwards...would they leave a player like DAVIDS and RECOBA on the tribines????...:ronaldo:....

(the reason why mancini isolated some players coz he tried to find which players were made for his tactics... some coach also did that on their first year... you forgot that we were the most solid team in the 2nd half of last season without world class defensive line-up.... once we win scudetto this year, i think you can simply forget the mistakes he made.... ^^[/QUOTE]

...It's extremely unwise for an INTERISTA to predict that INTER will win the scudetto next season...dont you know???...havent we embarassed our selves enough????if severus was arround he would've laughed at you...

...this is a tipical optimistic perspective from a frustrated INTERISTA...like we all are...:rolleyes:....why CAPELLO didnt isolated anyone????sure DEL PIERO didnt played as offten as he did...but he's an arrogant person and doesnt want to see someone else playing in his place...as if he's gonna life forewer....CAPELLO won the scudetto with JUVE in his second...in his first he was stubborn and arrogantly degraded the players who mean something in football....:mad2:....:mad:....and ANCELOTTI came in half of the season....he needed half a season to prepare the team and WIN the C.LEAGUE in his first and the SCUDETTO in his second season...you know how much it takes to compare soemone with these two????MANCINI????he's a baby compared with these two....he was the reason why we failed...not the team...we had brilliant team.....
...i liked MANCINI a lot...but he behaved like a MORON hiding bihind his coach bench like a pussy....

are you kiddin me???you're being sarcastic or what..:confused:...put CUPER on the list???....you're kiddin pla arent you...i mean i joke a lot perhaps this is a joke...ANCELOTTI played defansively????...:confused:....????

is this defansive?????-----------KAKA----------
CRESPO----------SHEVA

....:confused:....4-3-1-2 formation is everything BuT defansive....
as for CAPELLO.....he didnt wasted his team energy becouse he knew that he doesnt have the second squad like MILANESE giants...:rolleyes:...CAPELLO isnt a defansive coach...perhaps by spanish standards he is when he caoched REAL...but when he was in ROMA there wasnt more offansive team on the planet.....
...how did they lost from LIVERPOOL coach???....yeah i wonder too/...i mean that guy appeared from thin air...the guy was anonimous...and that was the first time a saw him.....that LIVERPOOL guy won two LA LIGA titles in a row and with the secong together the UEFA CUP....that is damn hard dont you think????...regardles of the fact that ANCELOTTI and CAPELLO lost from RAFA they are some of the best coaches in the business....and there arent many of them...if you want to add someone in their list then he better win the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE....otherwise he will look ridiculous...you cant be on of the best coaches if you dont have that CROWN....and LIVERPOOL did a trick...they were 30 points bihind CHELSEA+ they didnt qualified for the C.LEAGUE...so they begged UEFA to let them defend their title while everyone thrashed their asses in EUROPE and in their domestic leagues....this is also crucial for winning the C.LEAGUE...having a team who doesnt play ambitiously and hard in their domestic league and having a fresh team for the C.LEAGUE....

[Sebastian]

Yup, this is the year to truly evaluate Mancini. Inter have always been too quick to give managers the sack.

...i dont want INTER to sack MANCINI...but he should get all the negative credit for the failures and embarassment...he completely blew it...i newer thought that he will be so awfull...and he doesnt deserve the slightest sympathy or defending his policy...i got so pissed when he fielded
KILY-VDM on the wings and left ADRIANO alone against MILAN in the second leg...while we needed to catch up those 2:0 from the first leg.....he completely missed his tactics and he showed how stupid and ignorant he can be...and when he left ADRIANO against MILAN in the seria A?????...should i say more????VIERI was in better shape ofcourse....he's not only played with our nerwes but he risked ADRIANO'S future in INTER while he was receiving offers from the best teams in the world....WISE eh?????

[Ryan27]

Gotta love these elcino rants... :)

man I can't stand Zebina either, he is terrible. If I'm Capello, I'm switching Zambrotta to the right (to make room for Chiellini) or moving Thuram to fullback again, even if Thuram wants to stay in the center.

Anyway, chu chu did have a point...Ancelotti had better players than Rafa and his team outclassed Liverpool that night, but still didn't win. Milan simply choked in that second half stretch. Is that Ancelotti's fault or the fault of veterans like Maldini and Nesta for losing control? Hard to say...

Mancini's tactical experiments with playing only one forward was worrying for me too. We went from possibly playing 3 attackers to only playing with one. Of course, Ancelotti has also only played with one forward at times, and Berlusconi gets on his ass every time he does it lol ...

Mancini will now have had two summers to mold his team (poor Zac never got one). He's had an opportunity to learn a lot from the past season. Mancini's job should NOT be in jeopardy, but its clear that he has no excuses should the team have another terrible run like the one that saw all those damn draws.

[chu_chu]

true zebina, blasi, appiah, etc aren't world classes... but zebina is pretty much like favalli of the left... most of his jobs are helping cannavaro and thuram defending the box.. anyway... that's not my point... central defenders
have been always our biggest problem in the last couple years... you see even juve couldn't compete with milan the year before coz they didn't have world class defense like milan... (don't bring me about cannavaro discussion.... it was the most stupid move we made... we didn't get a right partner for cordoba when chivu or nesta was there...) last season we were very much like juve when they stuck with legrotagglie and montero partnership.. but we were better... but it showed you that to compete with a team like milan you need superb defense... do you think by bringing a lot of midfielders could solve that? or maybe you think liverpool also had solid line-up of midfield? compare that to ours you know we were better.... but when you compare the defensive line-up... you will find out they were better than ours as a team... and i dunno why they couldn't compete with chelsea or at least arsenal... (don't ask me about that.. coz i'm not on epl anymore....)

btw its the first time that i predict inter will win big trophy this year... not a room decoration like coppa... how many times did i predict inter would win something in the past? none.... this time i'm pretty sure... if we get a young and solid defender it would be better.... but that's not really a problem... 1 thing coz inter found the continuity at 2nd half of the season... against big and giant forwards mancini usually switched to matrix-mihaj partnership with cordoba move to the right flank and favalli as the left back this add more advantage at aerial combat... that was why in the rest of the last game we saw more of matrix - mihaj partnership... (i couldn't believe why mancini stick to 4-5-1 against milan 2nd leg.... maybe he thought that way would be the best to stop all moves in milan midfield....)
add that with a new and quick settled defender... dunno who... i'm so sure inter will win if they also can bring the consistency of 2nd half 2004/2005... but those are the only two things left for inter to solve as someone already declared we are still the third best team... ;p


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Costacurta takes Inter swipe Sunday 17 July, 2005

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Milan veteran Billy Costacurta has warned city rivals Inter that they are still only the third best team in Italy.

The Nerazzurri have hopes of finally winning the Scudetto next term but Costacurta believes Milan and Juventus are on another platform.

"Juventus have made an excellent signing in the form of Patrick Vieira," said the 39-year-old defender.

"With his arrival, I think they and can now be considered on the same level as us in terms of quality.

"Inter? If they sign either Walter Samuel or Christian Chivu then they could be viewed as good as us.

"However, they lack the faith in their own qualities which Milan and Juventus don’t after our success over the recent years."

Inter, who have won just one UEFA Cup and a Coppa Italia during the last decade, haven’t won the Italian title since 1989.

The San Siro outfit have brought in the likes of David Pizarro from Udinese and Real Madrid’s Santiago Solari, but they still need a central defender.

Talks over Samuel’s transfer have stalled even though it had seemed likely that the former Roma man would arrive.

Current Roma defender Chivu, who can play both as a central defender and a left-back, is also being strongly associated with the sleeping giants.


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okay this guy like others only judge the squad from player list comparison as the quality comparison.... i hope we can crush them this time... btw since when we never beat milan? but saying that juve just become as strong as theirs are a silly joke... so if they were stronger.. shouldnt they win scudetto last season... (or i'm the only one sleeping in my dream watching juve won scudetto...) but that doesn't mean they both are unbeatable... i just hope we bring consistency from last season... and we will surely capable to win against them... anyway that's my problem to be so optimistic so mind yours if you don't like... you can laugh all you want but i'm always an optimistic interista unlike others who are always desperate and never believe that his team could win something each season.... you know who are... i wouldn't even like to start... ;)

[chu_chu]

Gotta love these elcino rants... :)

man I can't stand Zebina either, he is terrible. If I'm Capello, I'm switching Zambrotta to the right (to make room for Chiellini) or moving Thuram to fullback again, even if Thuram wants to stay in the center.

Anyway, chu chu did have a point...Ancelotti had better players than Rafa and his team outclassed Liverpool that night, but still didn't win. Milan simply choked in that second half stretch. Is that Ancelotti's fault or the fault of veterans like Maldini and Nesta for losing control? Hard to say...

Mancini's tactical experiments with playing only one forward was worrying for me too. We went from possibly playing 3 attackers to only playing with one. Of course, Ancelotti has also only played with one forward at times, and Berlusconi gets on his ass every time he does it lol ...

Mancini will now have had two summers to mold his team (poor Zac never got one). He's had an opportunity to learn a lot from the past season. Mancini's job should NOT be in jeopardy, but its clear that he has no excuses should the team have another terrible run like the one that saw all those damn draws.

if mancini couldn't win continously... we would see moratti sack him in the middle of the season.... ^^

[Sebastian]

true zebina, blasi, appiah, etc aren't world classes... but zebina is pretty much like favalli of the left... most of his jobs are helping cannavaro and thuram defending the box.. anyway... that's not my point... central defenders
have been always our biggest problem in the last couple years... you see even juve couldn't compete with milan the year before coz they didn't have world class defense like milan... (don't bring me about cannavaro discussion.... it was the most stupid move we made... we didn't get a right partner for cordoba when chivu or nesta was there...) last season we were very much like juve when they stuck with legrotagglie and montero partnership.. but we were better... but it showed you that to compete with a team like milan you need superb defense... do you think by bringing a lot of midfielders could solve that? or maybe you think liverpool also had solid line-up of midfield? compare that to ours you know we were better.... but when you compare the defensive line-up... you will find out they were better than ours as a team... and i dunno why they couldn't compete with chelsea or at least arsenal... (don't ask me about that.. coz i'm not on epl anymore....)

btw its the first time that i predict inter will win big trophy this year... not a room decoration like coppa... how many times did i predict inter would win something in the past? none.... this time i'm pretty sure... if we get a young and solid defender it would be better.... but that's not really a problem... 1 thing coz inter found the continuity at 2nd half of the season... against big and giant forwards mancini usually switched to matrix-mihaj partnership with cordoba move to the right flank and favalli as the left back this add more advantage at aerial combat... that was why in the rest of the last game we saw more of matrix - mihaj partnership... (i couldn't believe why mancini stick to 4-5-1 against milan 2nd leg.... maybe he thought that way would be the best to stop all moves in milan midfield....)
add that with a new and quick settled defender... dunno who... i'm so sure inter will win if they also can bring the consistency of 2nd half 2004/2005... but those are the only two things left for inter to solve as someone already declared we are still the third best team... ;p


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Costacurta takes Inter swipe Sunday 17 July, 2005

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Milan veteran Billy Costacurta has warned city rivals Inter that they are still only the third best team in Italy.

The Nerazzurri have hopes of finally winning the Scudetto next term but Costacurta believes Milan and Juventus are on another platform.

"Juventus have made an excellent signing in the form of Patrick Vieira," said the 39-year-old defender.

"With his arrival, I think they and can now be considered on the same level as us in terms of quality.

"Inter? If they sign either Walter Samuel or Christian Chivu then they could be viewed as good as us.

"However, they lack the faith in their own qualities which Milan and Juventus don’t after our success over the recent years."

Inter, who have won just one UEFA Cup and a Coppa Italia during the last decade, haven’t won the Italian title since 1989.

The San Siro outfit have brought in the likes of David Pizarro from Udinese and Real Madrid’s Santiago Solari, but they still need a central defender.

Talks over Samuel’s transfer have stalled even though it had seemed likely that the former Roma man would arrive.

Current Roma defender Chivu, who can play both as a central defender and a left-back, is also being strongly associated with the sleeping giants.


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okay this guy like others only judge the squad from player list comparison as the quality comparison.... i hope we can crush them this time... btw since when we never beat milan? but saying that juve just become as strong as theirs are a silly joke... so if they were stronger.. shouldnt they win scudetto last season... (or i'm the only one sleeping in my dream watching juve won scudetto...) but that doesn't mean they both are unbeatable... i just hope we bring consistency from last season... and we will surely capable to win against them... anyway that's my problem to be so optimistic so mind yours if you don't like... you can laugh all you want but i'm always an optimistic interista unlike others who are always desperate and never believe that his team could win something each season.... you know who are... i wouldn't even like to start... ;)

...i newer liked CANNAVARO...i mean the guy had a world class status...but when i saw that MILAN signed NESTA in the last minute of the transfer window i couldnt believe how idiotic INTER menagment is....:shocked:....there's no comparation with NESTA the guy was just a breath away from INTER and everything crushed...:confused:...it waS similar like the GILARDINO'S case...it was just a matter of days....that was the most contraversial decision i've ever seen...it's politics...INTER cant just sign CANNAVARO when there's NESTA allready in the pocket....BERLUSCONI is BERLUSCONI...:evil:...as for the optimism...i'll tell you an aphorism...the PESSIMIST and the OPTIMIST are standing on the TITANIK'S deck...The PESSIMIST spots the ICEBERG and he tells to the OPTIMIST.."dude were screwed what are we going to do"....and the OPTIMIST replies"relax man...relax even GOD cant sink this baby"...the PESSIMIST listens to his concept of Reason while the OPTIMIST lives in a SWEETLAND where evrything is pink and soft like a pussy...and agrees with the rest of the HONKY TONK fellows who share his "pussy" theory that everything will going to be all right...they will live happily ever after and that life is a happy END(although all logic argues against it :confused:..)the PESSIMIST is allready in the boats for aborting the ship while the OPTIMIST and the rest of his ignorant moody company are down in the bar drinkin WHISKEY and RUM...the moral of this analogy is that the PESSIMIST is catching sun on COPPACABBANA and squezeeng some cool tits while the OPTIMIST is still in the BAR and defining his ridiculous journey through the OCEAN as toothpicks for the ORCAS and the GREAT WHITE SHARKS....the PESSIMIST isnt a negative individual...he just knows his chanses and knows what the hell is going on...he has a perception for the world arround him while using to most noble essence WISDOM...WISDOM combined with LOGIC is a TIME MACHINE and you can predict the future with that...the OPTIMIST doesnt have WISDOM cos he's HAPPY and SMILING at everything...as if his optimism is gonna save TITANIK'S ass...:rolleyes:...the PESSIMIST just cant go arround and say this will be like that that will be like this...:confused:...he keeps everything for him self as far as the future is concerned...SOCRATES died becouse of his pessimistic philosophy...becouse he said things that were unpleasent to the OPTIMISTS...but when he dranked that glass with poison the OPTIMISTS converted in to PESSIMISTS...:ronaldo:...
...being an INTER fan and predicting the SCUDETTO is like farting in a baloon...soon the baloon will blow up and evryone will puke their Livers....:silly:...dont get me wrong pal...i said those things long time ago...and im still waiting for that "THIS SEASON"....
...now im sorry for this PESSIMIST vs OPTIMIST stuff...but when ever i perceive a philosophical aspect i Destort Reality...;)...im not gonna smile at you i can smile at something that i said in the past...that would be like laughing at someone who masturbated through his puberty(perhaps some used more sophisticated tools,but the trick is the same)...:ronaldo:...

[Sebastian]

Gotta love these elcino rants... :)

man I can't stand Zebina either, he is terrible. If I'm Capello, I'm switching Zambrotta to the right (to make room for Chiellini) or moving Thuram to fullback again, even if Thuram wants to stay in the center.

Anyway, chu chu did have a point...Ancelotti had better players than Rafa and his team outclassed Liverpool that night, but still didn't win. Milan simply choked in that second half stretch. Is that Ancelotti's fault or the fault of veterans like Maldini and Nesta for losing control? Hard to say...

Mancini's tactical experiments with playing only one forward was worrying for me too. We went from possibly playing 3 attackers to only playing with one. Of course, Ancelotti has also only played with one forward at times, and Berlusconi gets on his ass every time he does it lol ...

Mancini will now have had two summers to mold his team (poor Zac never got one). He's had an opportunity to learn a lot from the past season. Mancini's job should NOT be in jeopardy, but its clear that he has no excuses should the team have another terrible run like the one that saw all those damn draws.

...ANCELOTTI in his Arrogance just underastimated RAFA...just like HITZFIELD underastimated FERGUSON in that unforgetable finale...:evil:...it doesnt matter with how manny goals you lead the match...it's the final whistle that matters...;)....these two LOSERS...thought that it's over aspecially the first one...and he weatnessed the biggest comeback in history of the Champions League....:silly:...im glad that i wasnt a MILANISTA....:silly:...we thought that they were the luckiest fans on the planet...but they proved us wrong...:D....

[chu_chu]

well at least that makes many types of interista in this world.
i'm the one who is always optimist that his team could win something but in the end he find out the team go home with empty handed... but he never regret of living this way.
the other types... well you figure yourself... ;)

if we don't win anything this season.. i won't regret of my statement... its already in my blood... maybe you think i could join your club... sorry i wont ^^
even if this season we are going to see adriano move to madrid...we'll see in these next couple days.... i'm still confident that we can win something big... :)

[GiorgioII]

......that would be like laughing at someone who masturbated through his puberty(perhaps some used more sophisticated tools,but the trick is the same)...:ronaldo:...

:lol: . eLcino that was a histerical post :D .

[Sebastian]

well at least that makes many types of interista in this world.
i'm the one who is always optimist that his team could win something but in the end he find out the team go home with empty handed... but he never regret of living this way.
the other types... well you figure yourself... ;)

if we don't win anything this season.. i won't regret of my statement... its already in my blood... maybe you think i could join your club... sorry i wont ^^
even if this season we are going to see adriano move to madrid...we'll see in these next couple days.... i'm still confident that we can win something big... :)

...regret is a state of mind...and a point of wiev...;)....there are well informed people and happy people...it's philosophicaly proven...you will newer find a philosopher laughing and smiling...cos they smile with their mind and thoughts...:smoking:....join my club????my club is INTER and it cant be joined...:silly:....well at least not on INTERNET...INTER can win an important title this season...but reality doesnt subbordinate to our demands and wishes...it's up to them...not us...but one thing is for sure...optimists allways end up empty handed....;)....

[Sebastian]

:lol: . eLcino that was a histerical post :D .

...you need to spice the philosophical descussion with a juicy humor...dont you think....:silly:....

[GiorgioII]

...you need to spice the philosophical descussion with a juicy humor...dont you think....:silly:....

I agree. Inter can be one of the most depressing and repetitive teams to discuss. Humour like that breaks up the constant debating on this forum :smoking: .

[Sebastian]

I agree. Inter can be one of the most depressing and repetitive teams to discuss. Humour like that breaks up the constant debating on this forum :smoking: .

...im Glad that you find my Philosophical Blubbing that interesting...;)....you should go and check our RELLIGIOUS vs SCIENTIFICALLY-PHILISOPHICAL debate with nimmesh in the about RELIGION and SCIENCE thread in away from football forum...:ronaldo:...

[chu_chu]

optimists allways end up empty handed....;)....

you mean all of them... ^^
it doesnt make sense.... how do you know they always end up empty handed... did you do the survey around the world...... its just based on paper that all optimists are always empty handed.... i bet you can find a lot of optimists are success people.... i dunno what to call them... but in my mind there are two kind of optimists... unhealthy: one who relies on luck... healthy: one who loves to do thing in sense....

the healthy works like this....
you'll get punished because your plan isn't well prepared... but if your plan is well prepared.. you'll be rewarded in the end... sth like that.....

and the unhealthy... basically relies on pure luck....but not all of them are always empty handed... the best word to use is most of them

but you can be both.... it depends on what situation you're in... like in this case i'm optimistic that inter can win something big this year.... its like a bet you know... (in this case... it doesn't really do much in my life.... if the team i favour lose... its not a big loss in my life) but in my workplace... i handle things differently as an optimist... empty handed or not... it depends on how you prepare everything... :)

[Ryan27]

Optimism is healthy. The only drawback is that you set yourself up for potential disappointment. But still, its better to strive and hope for great things than to go through life expecting things to go wrong. Life can be tough and its far from perfect, but you're better off being the person who can see the bright side of things. Often, pessimism is just an excuse for those who are afraid to live.

Anyway, Inter fans have the right to be skeptical (as do fans such as myself of the Chicago Cubs, who haven't won their respective championship since 1908!). But still, its that eternal hope that the team will break through that keeps us in love with Inter. Besides...Inter fans have it easy...imagine being a fan of Venezia or some club like that.

[Sebastian]

you mean all of them... ^^
it doesnt make sense.... how do you know they always end up empty handed... did you do the survey around the world...... its just based on paper that all optimists are always empty handed.... i bet you can find a lot of optimists are success people.... i dunno what to call them... but in my mind there are two kind of optimists... unhealthy: one who relies on luck... healthy: one who loves to do thing in sense....

the healthy works like this....
you'll get punished because your plan isn't well prepared... but if your plan is well prepared.. you'll be rewarded in the end... sth like that.....

and the unhealthy... basically relies on pure luck....but not all of them are always empty handed... the best word to use is most of them

but you can be both.... it depends on what situation you're in... like in this case i'm optimistic that inter can win something big this year.... its like a bet you know... (in this case... it doesn't really do much in my life.... if the team i favour lose... its not a big loss in my life) but in my workplace... i handle things differently as an optimist... empty handed or not... it depends on how you prepare everything... :)

...pal you're a pleasent person to chat with...i was just kiddin..i wanned to see you're philosophical platform and point of wiev...:silly:...it's like the YING-YANG...black and white...death and life...water and ice...male and female..:evil:...everything has it' oposite...they're in a constant conflict but they lose all sense without each other and they can not egsist...it's the principles of the Dialectics my favorite philosophical department...;)....pessismism and optimism are like the sides of the coint...and they can be the same...there has to be a days when you will feel pessimistic and days for optimism...pesonaly im quite happy indvidual but i dont want to be carried away by that happines...cos the world isnt a pleasent place to live in...nor it is a dimension where everything depends from us...were as fragile as a buterrfly...so we must prepare ourself for the worst...those optimistic extremists (as i call them..:silly:...)...dont want to think of this...instead they preffer to live in a universe where reality has no effect...that's the worst thing you can do....Chu Chu i dont believe that you're a memebr of that OPTIMISTIC EXTRAMISM...;)....you jyst have to face up reality...no matter how cruel it is...wieving things from the dark side is just excepting the lawof nature that anything can happen...that dark side isnt the one like in the STARWARS...we live in that dark side...i watch every day thousands of slaughtered children...i love animals i addore them...and when i see on ANIMAL planet what is going on with them...and how people behave i just cry...i cant ignore that just becouse that's happening in some GOD forsaken place or corner from the world...that's reality...we watch the news see all those murdered people...and act as if it's a movie damn it...:confused:...EARTH isnt an optimistic place my friend...i can pretend that i dont care about that living HELL in IRAK...but i know what's going on...and i cant be indifferent about those stuff...when u see all those polititians smiling and laughing burtsing with optimism that the killing will stop...but that doesnt work like that...there are situations where you need to put you're shit together get serious and act...not just talk that everything is going to be allright and dream about the future...cos the FUTURE is NOW....

[Sebastian]

Optimism is healthy. The only drawback is that you set yourself up for potential disappointment. But still, its better to strive and hope for great things than to go through life expecting things to go wrong. Life can be tough and its far from perfect, but you're better off being the person who can see the bright side of things. Often, pessimism is just an excuse for those who are afraid to live.

Anyway, Inter fans have the right to be skeptical (as do fans such as myself of the Chicago Cubs, who haven't won their respective championship since 1908!). But still, its that eternal hope that the team will break through that keeps us in love with Inter. Besides...Inter fans have it easy...imagine being a fan of Venezia or some club like that.

...that which leads to desapointment cant be healthy my friend....there's perhaps right in you're words that pessimist find excuses becouse that they're afright to live...but it's also true that extreme optimists dont want to face up reality that's why they need to dream an them...regardless of this matter optimism or pessimism...people are afright to leave...that's why the need to stimulate them selves with coffee..to get up in the morning...to lighten up and relax with a ciggarette or two...and to chear up when they go out in some bar or disco with alchohol..and in those extreme cases use drugs...which is getting to most ususal way to have fun...:confused:...there's a lot of pretty happy people i know who are using all of those habbuts...and a lot of frustrated people too...people are a paradox...if you give everything to a ma...he'll commit a suicide becouse he had everything and had no reason to live...he have seen it all...if you dont give a damn thing to a man...he'll kill him self too cos he didnt had nothing...and if you give him half of that he'll fall in to depression why he didnt had that second half....like the most percentage of the world's inhabitants...that's why facing reality and excluding those nasty habbits makes you a strong character...who wont be afright to refine him self through this madness...

[Ryan27]

...that which leads to desapointment cant be healthy my friend....there's perhaps right in you're words that pessimist find excuses becouse that they're afright to live...but it's also true that extreme optimists dont want to face up reality that's why they need to dream an them...regardless of this matter optimism or pessimism...people are afright to leave...that's why the need to stimulate them selves with coffee..to get up in the morning...to lighten up and relax with a ciggarette or two...and to chear up when they go out in some bar or disco with alchohol..and in those extreme cases use drugs...which is getting to most ususal way to have fun...:confused:...there's a lot of pretty happy people i know who are using all of those habbuts...and a lot of frustrated people too...people are a paradox...if you give everything to a ma...he'll commit a suicide becouse he had everything and had no reason to live...he have seen it all...if you dont give a damn thing to a man...he'll kill him self too cos he didnt had nothing...and if you give him half of that he'll fall in to depression why he didnt had that second half....like the most percentage of the world's inhabitants...that's why facing reality and excluding those nasty habbits makes you a strong character...who wont be afright to refine him self through this madness...
:) There is a lot of truth in your thoughts elcino. Words of a wise man... :rockon:

[Sebastian]

...perhaps...

[chu_chu]

...pal you're a pleasent person to chat with...i was just kiddin..i wanned to see you're philosophical platform and point of wiev...:silly:...it's like the YING-YANG...black and white...death and life...water and ice...male and female..:evil:...everything has it' oposite...they're in a constant conflict but they lose all sense without each other and they can not egsist...it's the principles of the Dialectics my favorite philosophical department...;)....pessismism and optimism are like the sides of the coint...and they can be the same...there has to be a days when you will feel pessimistic and days for optimism...pesonaly im quite happy indvidual but i dont want to be carried away by that happines...cos the world isnt a pleasent place to live in...nor it is a dimension where everything depends from us...were as fragile as a buterrfly...so we must prepare ourself for the worst...those optimistic extremists (as i call them..:silly:...)...dont want to think of this...instead they preffer to live in a universe where reality has no effect...that's the worst thing you can do....Chu Chu i dont believe that you're a memebr of that OPTIMISTIC EXTRAMISM...;)....you jyst have to face up reality...no matter how cruel it is...wieving things from the dark side is just excepting the lawof nature that anything can happen...that dark side isnt the one like in the STARWARS...we live in that dark side...i watch every day thousands of slaughtered children...i love animals i addore them...and when i see on ANIMAL planet what is going on with them...and how people behave i just cry...i cant ignore that just becouse that's happening in some GOD forsaken place or corner from the world...that's reality...we watch the news see all those murdered people...and act as if it's a movie damn it...:confused:...EARTH isnt an optimistic place my friend...i can pretend that i dont care about that living HELL in IRAK...but i know what's going on...and i cant be indifferent about those stuff...when u see all those polititians smiling and laughing burtsing with optimism that the killing will stop...but that doesnt work like that...there are situations where you need to put you're shit together get serious and act...not just talk that everything is going to be allright and dream about the future...cos the FUTURE is NOW....

no worries mate... ^^

after i read what you wrote... i believe i'm in the category you described.... i think i'm too simple as a person in life...in childhood... i always gave a full thought about poor people in my country... there were a lot of em (until now)... i wished I could play part in govt to help them (in the future)... but I stop trying further after I realize it is a quite impossible dream coz life is huge and there are plenty of big events happened around my life that prevent me to move around too much... maybe I'm afraid to sacrifice my whole life (try to spend more of my life to be active in social works) ....sometimes i always think it works like a fate... fate where some people are already assigned certain missions to do... you know ^^
to me.... my mission is just simple like most of people around... to spend and contribute what I can do best in my whole life for my family happiness... for now maybe that's all what I can do... maybe I'm not too mature or wise enough to see more of this life and do more thing about it... in years something could happen... i only hope i prepare myself enough to face huge changes in my life especially if they all are painful... :)

[chu_chu]

i like how elcino criticizes inter... all of them are funny and full of desperate words in different approach ;)

what i can do best in inter community is try to encourage every inter fans... even if i know that inter will never do much in each season... i know inter isn't enough to compete their rivals... its fun i think...
being inter optimist is also fun... coz when they win you are in heaven.... but if they lose... you know... can be a lot of dissapointing but i usually swear a lot against our opposition and the referee and inter most useless player on the pitch while watching inter so I think I always pay for the dissapointment if they lose... by doing that it wont be frustrating if they lose ^^

[Sebastian]

...we'll if you want to be succesfull...you'll have to be a litlle bit selfish...:confused:...but on teh other hand the consciousness just screams at you when you do something like that...it's from you to decide...and yeah...we're too irrelevant to make an impact on world's mizery...:rolleyes:...:(...there's too much hypocrits and byrocrates that are 99% in allmost every administration...with that kind of antics...you,me and every ordinary human on this planet can hardly contribute for a noble cause...when i see all those stars and their "charity"concerts i want to puke...:mad2:...that is so pathetic and useless...and if i ever meet BONO i will break his skull...the other members of U2 are against his involvment in to politics...they all just want to make their names appear on teh headlines nothing else...there's a saying...THE SAINT IS NO LONGER THAT WHEN HE FOUND'S OUT...:silly:...but if we cant make the world a better place then we shouldnt make it a worst place as well...if you cant help to someone at least dont do anything that might hurt that someone...it's frusrating to see how VISIBLE and OBVIOUS their Lies are..they all want to make a possitive impression in the media...but they're all asick-ambitious perverts...who are being whipped by some SADDOMAZZO babe dressed in LETHER and CHAINS...as there's a lot of repports of this...:shocked:...fr'instance the MACEDONIAN delegation in TAIAN made a scandal when the were visited by some "ESCORT" babes and they were so embarassed...:silly:...they're all just a scared people who want to get layed....:ronaldo:....chu chu...there's nothing we can do except watch and absorb the pain...