Question about the AZZURRI history..

[The_RocK_21]

in all the matches played against the big teams in the world:
Brazil
Argentine
France
Germany
and England

what are the statistics (win\lose\draw) against the AZZURRI??


I`ll be greatful to know..

[soccerates]

in all the matches played against the big teams in the world:
Brazil
Argentine
France
Germany
and England

what are the statistics (win\lose\draw) against the AZZURRI??


I`ll be greatful to know..

In the World Cup between the "Big 4" it looks like this:

................P....W....D....L...Pts... Pct
Italy.........14....6....6....2....21....643
Brazil........10....5....2....3....17.....600
Germany.....9.....2...3....4.....9......389
Argentina...13....2....5...6....11......346


This can be broken down into:

Italy.................P...W...D...L
....v Brazil..........5...2....1...2
....v Germany.....4...2....2...0
....v Argentina....5...2....3...0

Brazil...............P...W..D...L
...v Italy..........5....2..1...2
...v Germany.....1....1..0...0
...v Argentina....2....2..1...1

Germany...........P...W..D...L
....v Italy..........4...0...2...2
....v Brazil.........1...0...0...1
....v Argentina....4..2...1...1

Argentina........P...W...D...L
...v Italy.........5....0...3...2
...v Brazil.........2...1...1...2
...v Germany....4...1...1...2


Overall It looks like this:

Italy................P...W...D...L...F....A
...v Brazil.........12...5...2...5...19..19
...v Germany.....27..12..8...7...39..32
...v Argentina....13...6...5...2...21..11

Vs Each Team Individually + all the results:


Italy vs England:

13 May 1933 Home D 1-1 Friendly
14 Nov 1934 Away L 2-3 Friendly
13 May 1939 Home D 2-2 Friendly
16 May 1948 Home L 0-4 Friendly
30 Nov 1949 Away L 0-2 Friendly
18 May 1952 Home D 1-1 Friendly
6 May 1959 Away D 2-2 Friendly
24 May 1961 Home L 2-3 Friendly
14 Jun 1973 Home W 2-0 Friendly
14 Nov 1973 Away W 1-0 Friendly
28 May 1976 USA L 2-3 US Bicent.
17 Nov 1976 Home W 2-0 World Cup Qual
16 Nov 1977 Away L 0-2 World Cup Qual
15 Jun 1980 Home W 1-0 European Ch
6 Jun 1985 Mexico W 2-1 Friendly
15 Nov 1989 Away D 0-0 Friendly
7 Jul 1990 Home W 2-1 World Cup
12 Feb 1997 Away W 1-0 World Cup Qual
4 Jun 1997 France L 0-2 MiniTmt
11 Oct 1997 Home D 0-0 World Cup Qual
15 Nov 2000 Home W 1-0 Friendly
27 Mar 2002 Away W 2-1 Friendly

Italy......9 W....6 D....7 L


Italy vs France:

15 May 1910 Home W 6-2 Friendly
9 Apr 1911 Away D 2-2 Friendly
17 Mar 1912 Home L 3-4 Friendly
12 Jan 1913 Away L 0-1 Friendly
29 Mar 1914 Home W 2-0 Friendly
18 Jan 1920 Home W 9-4 Friendly
29 Aug 1920 Belgium L 1-3 Olympics
20 Feb 1921 Away W 2-1 Friendly
22 Mar 1925 Home W 7-0 Friendly
24 Apr 1927 Away D 3-3 Friendly
29 May 1928 Netherlands W 4-3 Olympics
25 Jan 1931 Home W 5-0 Friendly
10 Apr 1932 Away W 2-1 Friendly
17 Feb 1935 Home W 2-1 Friendly
5 Dec 1937 Away D 0-0 Friendly
12 Jun 1938 Away W 3-1 World Cup
4 Dec 1938 Home W 1-0 Friendly
4 Apr 1948 Away W 3-1 Friendly
3 Jun 1951 Home W 4-1 Friendly
11 Apr 1954 Away W 3-1 Friendly
15 Feb 1956 Home W 2-0 Friendly
9 Nov 1958 Away D 2-2 Friendly
5 May 1962 Home W 2-1 Friendly
19 Mar 1966 Away D 0-0 Friendly
8 Feb 1978 Home D 2-2 Friendly
2 Jun 1978 Argentina W 2-1 World Cup
23 Feb 1982 Away L 0-2 Friendly
17 Jun 1986 Mexico L 0-2 World Cup
11 Jun 1997 Away D 2-2 MiniTmt
3 Jul 1998 Away D 0-0 World Cup aet W pen
2 Jul 2000 Netherlands L 1-2 European Ch aet

Italy 17 W.....8 D....6 L


Italy vs Holland:

13 May 1920 Home D 1-1 Friendly
8 May 1921 Away D 2-2 Friendly
2 Dec 1928 Home W 3-2 Friendly
6 Apr 1930 Away D 1-1 Friendly
20 Nov 1974 Away L 1-3 Euro Qual
22 Nov 1975 Home W 1-0 Euro Qual
21 Jun 1978 Argentina L 1-2 World Cup
24 Feb 1979 Home W 3-0 Friendly
6 Jan 1981 Uruguay D 1-1 Mundialito
16 Nov 1988 Home W 1-0 Friendly
21 Feb 1990 Away D 0-0 Friendly
26 Sep 1990 Home W 1-0 Friendly
9 Sep 1992 Away W 3-2 Friendly
29 Jun 2000 Away D 0-0 European Ch aet L pen

Italy 6 W....6 D...2 L


Italy vs Brazil:

16 Jun 1938 France W 2-1 World Cup
25 Apr 1956 Home W 3-0 Friendly
1 Jul 1956 Away L 0-2 Friendly
12 May 1963 Home W 3-0 Friendly
21 Jun 1970 Mexico L 1-4 World Cup
9 Jun 1973 Home W 2-0 Friendly
31 May 1976 USA L 1-4 US Bicent.
24 Jun 1978 Argentina L 1-2 World Cup
5 Jul 1982 Spain W 3-2 World Cup
14 Oct 1989 Home L 0-1 Friendly
17 Jul 1994 USA D 0-0 World Cup aet W pen
8 Jun 1997 France D 3-3 MiniTmt

Italy 5 W...2 D...5 L


Italy vs Argentina:

5 Dec 1954 Home W 2-0 Friendly
24 Jun 1956 Away L 0-1 Friendly
15 Jun 1961 Home W 4-1 Friendly
22 Jun 1966 Home W 3-0 Friendly
19 Jun 1974 West Germany D 1-1 World Cup
10 Jun 1978 Away W 1-0 World Cup
26 May 1979 Home D 2-2 Friendly
29 Jun 1982 Spain W 2-1 World Cup
5 Jun 1986 Mexico D 1-1 World Cup
10 Jun 1987 Switzerland W 3-1 Friendly
21 Dec 1989 Home D 0-0 Friendly
3 Jul 1990 Home D 1-1 World Cup aet L pen
28 Feb 2001 Home L 1-2 Friendly

Italy 6 W...5 D....2 L

[philipas]

In my humble opinion all the statistics of the past have very little value for the present. It is better to ask what are their chances for the future and unfortunately one can come to the conclusion that they are a spent force and will fail to impress in the upcoming WC...

[cannuman]

In my humble opinion all the statistics of the past have very little value for the present. It is better to ask what are their chances for the future and unfortunately one can come to the conclusion that they are a spent force and will fail to impress in the upcoming WC...

If you are not Azzurri fan, you should respect them, because they are good...maybe the only team who can stop Brazil next summer.

[philipas]

If you are not Azzurri fan, you should respect them, because they are good...maybe the only team who can stop Brazil next summer.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....Well obviously you have your bias. I don't think you know what you're talking about. The Azzurri are a SPENT FORCE, has beens, caput, finished, finito...There are at least ten teams that i can think of that are better including; Brazil and Argentina obviously, Germany, Mexico, Portugal, Croatia, Holland, Ukraine, Serbia and Greece. :rolling:
I'm sorry but if you expect much from them in the WC next year then you're deluding yourself....Only Germany more than likely has a chance of beating Brazil...
Sorry, but the truth hurts... :cry:

[soccerates]

I n my humble opinion all the statistics of the past have very little value for the present.

Then World Cup Victories of the past have very little value for the present, and we might as well clean the slate and start clean too?


It is better to ask what are their chances for the future

Any historian will tell you that if you want to make an acurate prediction for the future, you should know your history well. We, thus, cannot ignore history unless you want to pretend it's not important.


and unfortunately one can come to the conclusion that they are a spent force and will fail to impress in the upcoming WC...

"one" can have that ill informed opinion, or can actually look at the skill they have on their team. 4 / 5 top strikers in Seria A (hardest league to score in) are Italian, all ahead of Adriano and 3 of them played on teams with less competent midfielders...

We simply need the midfield to support them in attack, and Lippi to play with three forwards to make a mark. Italian intensity when going forward is second to none.

Anyhow....whatever you say Phil...they only have their best team since 1990, and a coach who isn't afraid to play progressively... + about 6 World Class players on the team. Arguably as competent as the Brazilian squad. But you keep believing they're spent at your own peril...

Ciao

[soccerates]

In my humble opinion all the statistics of the past have very little value for the present.

Also prefacing you comments with "in my humble opinion" is a false showing of confidence. It's like saying "to tell you the truth"...as if everything else that is not prefaced with that is a lie? Give me a break. Nonetheless, someone ASKED SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEIR STATS WITH, so why even bother with "history means nothing" shit like this?

Are you trolling again?


It is better to ask what are their chances for the future and unfortunately one can come to the conclusion that they are a spent force and will fail to impress in the upcoming WC...

You fail to recognize that he wasn't asking wha their chances were for the future, merely their stats vs the teams he mentioned, not inferring anything at all. You're making the ill informed inference...

Original Question:
"in all the matches played against the big teams in the world:
Brazil
Argentine
France
Germany
and England
what are the statistics (win\lose\draw) against the AZZURRI??
I`ll be greatful to know."

See...no implication whatsoever. So what kind of axe do you have to grind with Italians, Phil? You already said you have an Italian girlfriend, and you're Greek - current Euro Champions...clean up your own backyard before you lay the smack down unjustifiably against us Italians woodja!!

[philipas]

What I mean is that looking back to stats of 1938 are poitless. My opinion of the Azzurri is shaped by what I read and very few commentators seem to think they are a force to be reckoned with today, but oviously you think they are at the best since 1990. Hmmm, do recent that's RECENT NT games reflect this statement???

[soccerates]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....Well obviously you have your bias.

Says the man who followed me into this thread probably again more intent on trolling than anything else, and came to the conclusion that someone needed to ask better questions, then denigrated Italians.

No you have no bias, you're being hypocritical again. Is this going to degenerate into racial name calling like your last thread to me did? I hope you don't tread into racism again.


I don't think you know what you're talking about. The Azzurri are a SPENT FORCE, has beens, caput, finished, finito...

This is pure irony coming from a Greek supporter.

Let's talk World Class players, since a team is dependant on it's skill:

Italy:
Buffon
Nesta
Gattuso
Totti
Gilardino
and arguably Cassano

Greece:
Who?


There are at least ten teams that i can think of that are better including; Brazil and Argentina obviously, Germany, Mexico, Portugal, Croatia, Holland, Ukraine, Serbia and Greece. :rolling:

Ukraine, Serbia, Croatia and GREEECE?!?! We beat Portugal two times last year with their full squad. We beat Germany last year with our full squads. We haven't played Mexico recently. We tied Serbia in Toronto largly using our U21 squad, whereas the Serbs have used their full squad. Greece? Haven't played them for ages, but I think you need to pay attention to your own qualifying pal...Croatia? They've beaten less quality opposition lately than Italy has.

So, why don't you come up with some substance and show us specifically where Italy is "spent". Cite some games...You've already alluded to a loss to Slovenia, but so what...even good teams lose once in a while (ie; Brazil to Ecuador, Mexico, etc).

ROTFLMAO...you're trolling again...ho hum...


I'm sorry but if you expect much from them in the WC next year then you're deluding yourself....Only Germany more than likely has a chance of beating Brazil...Sorry, but the truth hurts... :cry:

What truth might that be? Your trolling? You are showcasing much ignorance by stating that a team which is chalk full of talent is a "spent" force. They've only not lost a game in their last tournament, been finalists a few short years before. Have only lost 7 games in the history of WCQ matches, and are consistently in the World Cup...

Rotflmao...go away you troll.

If you want to talk about delusional, please...let us see Greece qualify first.

For everyone else reading this thread, Philipas has a history of trolling. Read the chain of events here if you want to know the truth about this manic depressive idiot:

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=13961&page=21&pp=15

Philipas you have seriously disappointed me. This is the third time you've broken your word to me and again starting trolling when you said you wouldn't. What's your problem man? The guy asked what Italy's stats were, and you come in here and insult us again. Why don't you ***k off, like the serbs asked you to when you trolled them here:

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=30878


For everyone else. Here are some notably comments by the resident village idiot Philiputz. He is not one to take seriously, and watch how quick he degenerates into calling names and hurling racist Italian slurs...

"Are all Croats resentful, right wing catholic nazis." - disguising racist comments as rhetorical questions - this is shameful.

"Isn't the USTASA synonymous with NAZI persecution, atrocities and VIOLENCE"

"Sounds like you're a closet pom to me and probably a latent xenophobe, whose been brainwashed by the media." - Pom is a racist slur for the English...well done Philiputz.

Philipas said:
"Why are there so many Turks in a Greek thread?? " As If Turks have no right to post in a public thread...yeah right Philiputz

Philipas said:
"Would you like me to call you a curac glava, uncivilsed slavic barbarian who drinks plumb brandy and sings outdated nationalistic songs." - This is most definitely a racist slur disguised as a rhetorical question. Phil, you're fooling no one by pretending to be one-for-all, as proven by your hidden racism in many of your comments in this public forum.

Philipas said:
"Greece's glorious and historic victory at EURO 2004. A small country that crushed the traditional soccer powers. If anything there victory should be encouragement to other small countries, like Serbia, that it is also possible for them to reach such meteoric heights and perhaps if they use their 'heads' in more ways than one they'll be able to attain success. I doubt that will ever happen, but hey you can dream."

Philipas said:
"The only reason the ex-Yuogoslavia did well in soccer is because of all the other republics in their federation. Serbian team has a Balkan mentality and cannot beat European teams anymore." the term "balkan mentality" is a stereotype and bordering on racist.

Philipas said:
"Your father a highly educated academic painter?? wow, an academic Serb! That'll be a first...although there must be some famous Serbs like.....hmmmm.....ahhhh......geeeee...Yeah well let me get back to you on that one. As for infamous serbs....well there's no shortage of them.
and is that picture in the background one of your daddy's work. Looks very artistic....not.Rot in hell..."

Philipas said:
"I've been watching in the news lately that Serbs have been waking up to the atrocities they committed because of footage taken of murdering innocent teenagers during the Srebrenica massacre by your piss ant, cowardly army."

Philipas said:
"Greek students can be found throughout Europe and many go to countries like Serbia and Bulgaria BECAUSE IT IS SO EASY TO GET IN. Probably because there's a lack of Serbians enrolling."

[philipas]

Oh come on sox you're sooooo sensitive. I have no axe to grind with Italians, Serbs, Martians whoever and I'm not trolling. As you said once when you went into a thread that I complained about, it's a free forum and we are allowed to express our views.
I simply think the Azzurri are overrated at the moment according to what OTHERS, better informed commentators are saying. It's not like I hate them for no reason like others have shown against Germany (not you). Also you must admit that you are pro Azzurri at any cost and it seems like you refuse to take constructive critiscism when it is levelled at them....
Oh and I'm Greek-Australain, there is a difference...

[soccerates]

What I mean is that looking back to stats of 1938 are poitless. My opinion of the Azzurri is shaped by what I read and very few commentators seem to think they are a force to be reckoned with today, but oviously you think they are at the best since 1990. Hmmm, do recent that's RECENT NT games reflect this statement???

Yes, they're 4pts in the lead of their group. What are you talking about? a 1-0 loss to slovenia in November? Big deal, even Brazil drops games to lesser opponents like their 1-0 loss to Ecuador, and 1-0 loss to Mexico recently. One loss does not define a team. If that's the case, then please tell us how Greece is doing recently.

Italy is consistent, and overall stats are historically important. So piss off with your trolling.

Also, no one was looking back to 1938 stats, someone asked for stats vs other teams. Why follow me into this thread with your comments that prove you had no other intent than to troll me again? You're sticking your nose where it doesn't belong...degenerating to stalking...

[soccerates]

Oh come on sox you're sooooo sensitive. I have no axe to grind with Italians, Serbs, Martians whoever and I'm not trolling.

Your history is chalk full of racist comments and trolling, and you've demonstrated the dumb itch to be a nuisance again. Your word is worth shit. You're a pathological liar.


I simply think the Azzurri are overrated at the moment according to what OTHERS, better informed commentators are saying.

There are no other "better informed commentators" otherwise you could NAME them. I've used stats to back up my assertions while all you use is ill-informed opinions, and lies. Who are these "better informed commentators"? Name some names, instead of shamefully using "higher authority" as your focal point. It's a logical fallacy (failed logical tactic to cite anonymous authorities to augment your debate) nonetheless, but you seem to stubborn to get this.


It's not like I hate them for no reason like others have shown against Germany (not you). Also you must admit that you are pro Azzurri at any cost and it seems like you refuse to take constructive critiscism when it is levelled at them....

Problem is that racial slurs are not constructive criticism. When you have some, then present it. All you've done so far is denigrate them by claiming they are a "spent force" "ahahahah they suck" etc. That's not constructive. It's tolling, and you are a racist troll.

[philipas]

Oh my god are you for real...I don't like the fact that you've tried to taint me again soccerates. I was responding to someone else and you give me another rant...
i'm very disappointed soccerates. You are being reactive and unreasonable.

[philipas]

Please calm down. There is no need for this. Obviously it riles you when I am critical of the Azzurri.

[soccerates]

Oh my god are you for real...I don't like the fact that you've tried to taint me again soccerates.

There's nothing to taint, your actions speak clearly for themselves. You have major psychological problems pal...Go away...

Troll and a racist...that's what you are, and your history and comments prove it. I've just received 3 letters of support against you. You're not well liked around here are you Phil?

Go away you moron...just stop trolling and stalking me.

[soccerates]

Please calm down. There is no need for this. Obviously it riles you when I am critical of the Azzurri.

No it doesn't...and "rile" is a good word for your intent here? Trolls get a rise when they perceive to "rile" people. You're very transparent as all manic depressives are.

Prozac for a few months will help curb your tendencies from mania and depression.

[soccerates]

What makes you think I really care what you have to say about my supposedly "subjective" reviews? You ought to talk, Mr. "Neutral." You poster child for bi-polar disorder, you!



lol...well at least you have a critic that can act as your mentor...no, after a second read I can see that it was quite good...I'll edit it now... :thumbsup:

I just can't figure "philipas" out. This is what he sent me in response to that one message I sent to both of you, which in turn was in response to a not-very-kind review of my Confederations Cup Final post-game write-up. So I just checked that post again and he actually went back and did what he said he was going to do and edited out his mean comments and put nice ones in there instead! I'm not even sure he bothered to read the review when he first commented on it. I'm guessing that when he saw that I was the one who wrote it, he put less-than-charitable remarks on the web for me to see, but after actually reading it decided that it wasn't so bad after all! That, or he really IS bi-polar!!

Phil, even others have figured out that you have bi-polar tendencies...get some help...

You troll with racial slurs, then edit them out with nice comments after you feel remorseful for being an ass (a trait of manic depressives). What a fool you turned out to be.

[philipas]

soccerates, firstly I made a general post, not one to you specifically, then someone else answered it and then you came out with your rants. Now, you have taken comments way out of context and tainted me as a racist. I live in a multi-cultural country, I have an Italian g/f, I am doing cultural studies as part of my degree, including Aboriginal knowledges, I am very pro-active in social equity foundations and have had to live through discrimination myself. I DO NOT appreciate being tainted as a racist. Please retract from these comments. you have way overreacted. As you said to me once before, when I accused you of following me into a thread, that it's a free forum, where we can express our views.
I can also bring up instances where you can be accused of racism in relation to Serbs, Gypsies and Germans. But I am not going to bring them out of context like you have.
Ok. I'm not a genius when it comes to soccer, but that's why I'm here to find out more. Also you are the one using slurs and insulting me now. this has been totally uncalled for. We could of debated these points and perhaps you would have enlightened me.

[soccerates]

soccerates, firstly I made a general post, not one to you specifically, then someone else answered it and then you came out with your rants.

You're a jerk with an obsessive history of trolling, making racist remarks, and then asking for appologies just so you can sucker people in again. Congrats, Philiputz - I bit at another one of your trolls...slap me in the wrist, but what does that say about you...you're biggest accomplishment is pissing people off.

***k off.

[soccerates]

Also you are the one using slurs and insulting me now. this has been totally uncalled for. We could of debated these points and perhaps you would have enlightened me.

that's the problem with trolls, racists cowards, and pathological liars like you. I've never insulted your race which would = a slur, but you certainly have done so to others in these forums. Off the top of my head, Serbs, Croats, Albanians, Turks, Italians, and probably many others that I have missed. You supported the views of an online nazi named Aryan, which further highlights your poor character.

And I did offer you the chance to debate those points, by specifically asking you to put up some substance for your comments (ie; beliefs of why backed by certain results which make you see thigns that way), but instead you continue trolling and making half arsed statements.

You are a loser. I've given you 2 chances to prove you are not, but both times you ***k up. Go away.

[philipas]

Soccerates you're not always right. I have have made mistakes and tried to correct them. If people really want to know how I feel about other ethnic groups, they can go into the Australian forum and read my discussions about multi-culturalism etc. You said in a few previous posts that I would degenerate into swearing and racial slurs, but who is doing the degenerating, swearing and bringing up Greece in a derogatory way. Sure I'm of greek background but I still criticise Greeks and Greece as well. i'm not so pro-Greece as others are pro of their background. And i've also criticised Australia. Well anyway i'm not going to stoop low and go off on a tangent and you can bring up other people sending you messages about me, but i'm going to play detente...
Please edit those unsubstantiated and out of contexts statements you wrote.
take care, I know you're not well.

[soccerates]

Soccerates you're not always right.

My opinion about you is 100% acurate and shared by many. In any other debate I've had, I've already told you thick skulled neanderathal, that the puporse is NOT to be right, but to lay out your objectives and argue for them with facts and statistics. I've done this in every post I've made, whereas you've never done this. You've only been intent on making ill informed opinions that are never backed by stats. So ***k off, you're a troll.


swearing and bringing up Greece in a derogatory way.

Who's bringing up Greece in a derogatory way you liar? Not me. I've never made the slurs against Greeks that you have Italians, Serbs, Croats, Albanians, etc. ***k off.


Please edit those unsubstantiated and out of contexts statements you wrote.
take care, I know you're not well.

Unsubstantiated you simpleton, means "without substance" all my comments about you are backed by your actions. So ***k off, troll, racist scum bag, manic depressive asshole.

You've demonstrated 10/12 manic depressive characteristics. Irony is lost on you.

I gave you two seperate chances on two seperate forums to retract your poor character and behavior. You lost it. Your profile is complete. You are a pathological liar and a degenerate, and I stand by those words and will back them up with your own actions and words on these forums.

Now ***K OFF, I have no further interest in talking anythign with you.

But go ahead and respond with more trollish comments, showing you have no intent on ending this and would rather continue with your very sad behavior. Racism is not something to be proud of.

[soccerates]

Phil, stop private messaging me with your hate mail. You can pretend to be all sympathetic here, but emailing me with hate messages is not cool. You're a sad twat.

[philipas]

You know very well that i have not sent you any hate mail and you have just fabricated some now in my name. That is really low soccerates, obviously because you want to make yourself look good for the degenerating you are doing publicly. You are pushing it too far...

[soccerates]

You know very well that i have not sent you any hate mail and you have just fabricated some now in my name.

What are you lying about now, me fabricating some in your name? I can't post from your account you dipshit.


That is really low soccerates, obviously because you want to make yourself look good for the degenerating you are doing publicly. You are pushing it too far...

Even Stevie Wonder could see this one coming.

"degenerating in public", what are you talking about? Just because I've called you a racist and backed it up with words you said, doesn't mean I'm degenerating you...you did it yourself...

How didn't I know that you would lie about this too, the pm'ing hate mail and such?

I guess it's a mute point since you have now relegated to the private messaging, wth your racial slurs. And BTW, what the ***k is a "wife beater" outfit?

Nevertheless, if they continue I'm sure the moderators of these forums will enjoy receiving them. Hopefully it gets you banned, however it probably wouldn't stop you from creating another account to stalk me with. Seriously man, get a friggen life!!

[philipas]

Soccerates, can you actually respond by swearing to god that you or someone that you're collaborating with has fabricated those private messages. Perhaps those people that you said are supporting you against me. Swear to god soccerates...

[soccerates]

Soccerates, can you actually respond by swearing to god that you or someone that you're collaborating with has fabricated those private messages. Perhaps those people that you said are supporting you against me. Swear to god soccerates...

"Swear to God!" Ok Phil, whatever you say...

So are you denying that you made these comments to me in private messaging, because I have the message saved whereby you did, and will forward it to the moderators on this forum if you continue to follow me around, say anything racist again, or private message me any more hate mail:

Are you denying that you private messaged me the following:

Soccerates, you're definitely a mafioso cock sucking guido pimp asshole. Why don't you greese your hair back, get into your IROC, and go cruise the streets in your guido wife beating pasta stained outfit, with a toothpick hanging from your mouth, you penne eating prosciuto faced parmesan cheesed dick!

You're a fag, and my girlfriend thinks you have a small dick, and she's right...she dated another guido pimp mother***ker that was just like you until I rescued her. She says all Italians have small dicks, and I believe her. Now she's all mine, and you're jealous of the 19 year old hot bod babe that I get

Are you denying that this came from your account? That would be a big mistake on your part as I have it saved, dude. I do believe that the real moderators are able to see for themselves what exists in our mailboxes. I'll leave it there just in case they need to.

You've been warned, and I have now asked you 6X to stop messaging me. ***k off you sick and twisted little kid. I suppose pm'ing me your racial slurs was a step up from posting them on these forums huh Phil? That way you can deny it. Really, it doesn't matter what anyone else here thinks about you anyhow, because this is a virtual forum where racists like you can get away with that kind of shit and not real life where hate crimes like that might even be punishable by jailtime...you're lucky in that regard, you coward.

I'd love to see you repeat those very words to an Italian half your size. Be a man, why don't you?

[philipas]

Perhaps the real moderators are collaborating with you. Yes I deny that entirely, now swear to god because only god knows the truth with what is happening here soccerates or is that too frightening for you.

Soccerates that is very low and you have some serious karma coming your way. Now, swear to god that you did not fabricate that private mail, most likely in collaboration with the powers to be. If you swear to god I will leave this forum permanently...

[soccerates]

Perhaps the real moderators are collaborating with you. Yes I deny that entirely, now swear to god because only god knows the truth with what is happening here soccerates or is that too frightening for you.

You're a ***king liar, and I'm completely disgusted with you. Go away...seriously leave me alone would you, you little obsessive twat?!?!

If you swear to god I will leave this forum permanently...

Done, I swear to God...but since you lied about sending them, I bet you won't leave this forum permanently. I know you'll go back on your word as you constantly do...let's see...will you ***k off forever, or is this some new sick and twisted game?!?

[soccerates]

BTW, on your way out of this forum, I'd like you to post a public appology to me for being a racist scum bag, and retract the racist slurs (slur is a racial insult) that you've made to me and my nationality (Italian)...and promise that you'll never come back.

[soccerates]

I can also bring up instances where you can be accused of racism in relation to Serbs, Gypsies and Germans. But I am not going to bring them out of context like you have.

No you can't because you are lying. The penchant of a pathological lair like you is to preface comments like "i'm not going to bring them out" after making a false and dishonest statment. It's a grass-tool political tactic to discredit someone by "suggesting" they have done something that they have not. This is a low tactic by you Phil, you racist loser, pathological liar, and sick and twisted manic depressive.

[philipas]

No soccerates you must swear to god by stating: I swear to god that I did not fabricate that private message by myself or in collaboration with the powers to be.

My conscience is clean. I did not send any hate mail and you can see from the way i've been posting that it is out of vein. your conscience is not clean and you have to live with that. You can tell by the way you're reacting that it's all fabricated.
If by any chance this happened without you knowing by someone else, a power to be that supports you and has framed me than I understand, but I doubt it happened without you being a part of it.
I swear to god that I did not send you any hate mail and have not used any foul language in private messages. Anyway, the truth will eventually come out and it is only fair to get to the bottom of the truth. I don't even know what IROC means. You've gone too far soccerates, too low and god knows. I wouldn't want to be in your position now.

[soccerates]

No soccerates you must swear to god by stating: I swear to god that I did not fabricate that private message by myself or in collaboration with the powers to be.

"THE POWERS TO BE?!" What kind of ***king drugs are you taking?!? I never "private" messaged myself with your account. It clearly came from you. Also, I'm not going to play your game, I already "swore to God" and you have now backed on your word to go away.

You know what you ***king troll? I'm done playing your game. I knew that you wouldn't ***king stand by your word, and you're just playing me for a fool.

You're a pathalogical liar, and think that being racist is a joke?


My conscience is clean. I did not send any hate mail and you can see from the way i've been posting that it is out of vein. your conscience is not clean and you have to live with that. You can tell by the way you're reacting that it's all fabricated.
If by any chance this happened without you knowing by someone else, a power to be that supports you and has framed me than I understand, but I doubt it happened without you being a part of it.
I swear to god that I did not send you any hate mail and have not used any foul language in private messages. Anyway, the truth will eventually come out and it is only fair to get to the bottom of the truth. I don't even know what IROC means. You've gone too far soccerates, too low and god knows. I wouldn't want to be in your position now.

This whole persona by you is a fabrication. I know about your true characteristic as evident of the trolling you've done to Italians, Serbs, Croats, Turks, and the racist slurs you've hurled at all of them, siding with an online Nazi, etc.

You're actions paint you perfectly.

Now please, leave me alone for the 9th time...just piss off and stop following me around.

If you truly have a clearn conscience (lie) then you would, instead of continuing to follow up everything.

[philipas]

soccerates, you are getting off on this. You fabricate something up to make me out into someone who sends hate mail, but when you are faced with swearing to god properly, you can't. God knows soccerates, you will face his wrath, too bad.
Like I said my conscience is clean...

[soccerates]

soccerates, you are getting off on this. You fabricate something up to make me out into someone who sends hate mail, but when you are faced with swearing to god properly, you can't. God knows soccerates, you will face his wrath, too bad.
Like I said my conscience is clean...

you're sick...accusing me precisely of what you're doing...***k off already asshole.

[soccerates]

but when you are faced with swearing to god properly, you can't. God knows soccerates, you will face his wrath, too bad.
Like I said my conscience is clean...

ROTFLMAOOOOO...you are so sad "socerates look at me, I swear to god...swear to god..."

Ok how's this Philiputz:

"I swear to God that I didn't fabricate your hate mail to me!"

Now let's see you ante-up and leave this forum for good. You going to stick by your word you ***king loser?

[philipas]

"Swear to God!" Ok Phil, whatever you say...

So are you denying that you made these comments to me in private messaging, because I have the message saved whereby you did, and will forward it to the moderators on this forum if you continue to follow me around, say anything racist again, or private message me any more hate mail:

Are you denying that you private messaged me the following:



Are you denying that this came from your account? That would be a big mistake on your part as I have it saved, dude. I do believe that the real moderators are able to see for themselves what exists in our mailboxes. I'll leave it there just in case they need to.

You've been warned, and I have now asked you 6X to stop messaging me. ***k off you sick and twisted little kid. I suppose pm'ing me your racial slurs was a step up from posting them on these forums huh Phil? That way you can deny it. Really, it doesn't matter what anyone else here thinks about you anyhow, because this is a virtual forum where racists like you can get away with that kind of shit and not real life where hate crimes like that might even be punishable by jailtime...you're lucky in that regard, you coward.

I'd love to see you repeat those very words to an Italian half your size. Be a man, why don't you?


The post that soccerates has made includes a fabricated hate mail that he alleges I sent. I have worked out that it is possible to fabricate sent mail and if a moderator were to look in my inbox they'd see that there is no original record of it. Soccerates has fabricated that hate mail to discredit me, but all he has done is discredited himself and therefore all other claims he has made against me indicate that they are false.
Let it be known that i am not a racist and admire italian culture and calcio in italy specifically. I also have no personal gripe against soccerates and am willing to forgive if he edits and deletes the misleading posts he has put forth. It would be the fair and manly thing for him to do.
There is no need for this continual public mud slinging.

[soccerates]

We could of debated these points and perhaps you would have enlightened me.

I even requested you do so in messages #9

"So, why don't you come up with some substance and show us specifically where Italy is "spent". Cite some games...You've already alluded to a loss to Slovenia, but so what...even good teams lose once in a while (ie; Brazil to Ecuador, Mexico, etc)."

more proof that you have absolutely no intent on keeping it soccer-related and are a stalker and troll:
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=419478&postcount=9

You're so very pathetic it's not funny. I've proven about a half dozen times how you go against your word, how you troll others, how you've used racist slurs against others...all with proof coming from your own mouth. You've "suggested" that I did the same, which was the true fabrication on your part, following it up with "I don't want to dig them up..."...cuz you can't cuz they don't exist. You've emailed me hate mail, all in your campaign to deny it and blame it on me, all because I schooled you in a debate a few weeks back?

You're obsessed with me. I've simply only asked you about 1 dozen times to stop.

You then take it a step further and ask me to "swear to GOD" and you would leave...I did so, and you come back and continue your tirade.

I not only have the opinion that you are certainly manic depressive, and a pathological liar, but that you probably have some sort of variation of asperger's syndrome. Your character is proof and your actions here are proof.

Lastly calling me a "mario mother ***king Italian pimp daddy" in private messaging is all the proof I need that you're a stalking, racist, coward, lying asshole.

Now ***K OFF.

[soccerates]

The post that soccerates has made includes a fabricated hate mail that he alleges I sent. I have worked out that it is possible to fabricate sent mail and if a moderator were to look in my inbox they'd see that there is no original record of it.

Stevie wonder saw that coming a long time ago, you obviously deleted it but I have it saved, you pathalogical liar.


Let it be known that i am not a racist and admire italian culture and calcio in italy specifically.

"let it be known" another false assertion which can be proved a lie since I've documented YOUR VERY OWN quotes for anyone to see here:
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=419478&postcount=9

The other lie, you say "I admire italian culture and calcio":
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=419340&postcount=5

In the thread above you specifically said "hahahaah...Italy are a spent force, has beens, caput, finished, finito..."

I guess those are just more proof that your campaign here has failed, since I can document all your lies, and you have only allegations against me. Sad puppy you are...sad..sad...sad...

More manic depressive tendencies from you to make the assertion that you did not say that. Sad.

I doubt you have a girlfriend.


I also have no personal gripe against soccerates and am willing to forgive if he edits and deletes the misleading posts he has put forth. It would be the fair and manly thing for him to do.
There is no need for this continual public mud slinging.

Stopping this campaign would go a lot further, but it's clear you have no intention on doing so otherwise you would have lived up to your words and pissed off after I "swore to GOD" as you requested and said that you would disappear if I did:
Phil said: "If you swear to god I will leave this forum permanently..." in message # 28:
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=419563&postcount=28

I did so in message #36:
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=419618&postcount=36

Yet Phil is still here on his hate campaign, denying it, and obviously had no intent to leave...what a jerk.

Your actions disgust me...stop trolling and stalking me your obsessive little twat...

Other racial slurs that Philipas has made in other forums:



"Are all Croats resentful, right wing catholic nazis." - disguising racist comments as rhetorical questions - this is shameful.

"Isn't the USTASA synonymous with NAZI persecution, atrocities and VIOLENCE"

"Sounds like you're a closet pom to me and probably a latent xenophobe, whose been brainwashed by the media." - Pom is a racist slur for the English...well done Philiputz.

Philipas said:
"Why are there so many Turks in a Greek thread?? " As If Turks have no right to post in a public thread. This is so wrong it isn't funny......yeah right Philiputz

Philipas said:
"Would you like me to call you a curac glava, uncivilsed slavic barbarian who drinks plumb brandy and sings outdated nationalistic songs." - This is most definitely a racist slur disguised as a rhetorical question. Phil, you're fooling no one by pretending to be one-for-all, as proven by your hidden racism in many of your comments in this public forum.

Philipas said:
"Greece's glorious and historic victory at EURO 2004. A small country that crushed the traditional soccer powers. If anything there victory should be encouragement to other small countries, like Serbia, that it is also possible for them to reach such meteoric heights and perhaps if they use their 'heads' in more ways than one they'll be able to attain success. I doubt that will ever happen, but hey you can dream."

Philipas said:
"The only reason the ex-Yuogoslavia did well in soccer is because of all the other republics in their federation. Serbian team has a Balkan mentality and cannot beat European teams anymore." the term "balkan mentality" is a stereotype and bordering on racist.

Philipas said:
"Your father a highly educated academic painter?? wow, an academic Serb! That'll be a first...although there must be some famous Serbs like.....hmmmm.....ahhhh......geeeee...Yeah well let me get back to you on that one. As for infamous serbs....well there's no shortage of them.
and is that picture in the background one of your daddy's work. Looks very artistic....not.Rot in hell..."

Philipas said:
"I've been watching in the news lately that Serbs have been waking up to the atrocities they committed because of footage taken of murdering innocent teenagers during the Srebrenica massacre by your piss ant, cowardly army."

Philipas said:
"Greek students can be found throughout Europe and many go to countries like Serbia and Bulgaria BECAUSE IT IS SO EASY TO GET IN. Probably because there's a lack of Serbians enrolling."

Also calling me a "mario mother-***ker" a "Cheese ball Italian asshole who loves penne and meatballs" "An italian pimp daddy" etc, are racist slurs. I've never, EVER said anything in kind to you. These actions prove how sick and twisted you are.

[philipas]

soccerates you have exposed your lies. In the original hate mail that you fabricated you alleged that I called you a guido mother ***ker, but after I said to you that couldn't have been my words because in Australia a derogotary name for Italians is not guido, but mario. Now you are saying i called you a mario mother***ker but if anyone was to go back to number 27 of this thread they would see that the fabricated hate mail said guido. A term used in North america not here. Also i don't know what IROC means and i'm waiting for an explanation.
Enough of this soccerates. STOP, it is embaressing for both of us, can't you see that. I said I will move on, so please retract those posts and all is forgiven.

[soccerates]

soccerates you have exposed your lies. In the original hate mail that you fabricated you alleged that I called you a guido mother ***ker, but after I said to you that couldn't have been my words because in Australia a derogotary name for Italians is not guido, but mario. Now you are saying i called you a mario mother***ker but if anyone was to go back to number 27 of this thread they would see that the fabricated hate mail said guido. A term used in North america not here. Also i don't know what IROC means and i'm waiting for an explanation.
Enough of this soccerates. STOP, it is embaressing for both of us, can't you see that. I said I will move on, so please retract those posts and all is forgiven.

You are morally and ethically bankrupt. I've used your own words in my "rants" against you. Unlike yourself who is chalk full of lies, failed promisses, and contradictions. Tell me, who do you think actully beleives anything you write except for you - and even you know all about your pathological lies.

You think that playing me by calling me a "guido" then saying that this is not a derogatory name in Australia carries any weight?!? Really?!? This is ridiculous. It's just another example of how well you thought out your campaign, using foreign slurs instead of local ones. Pathetic.

Your campaign has failed. Putting on the persona of sympathy by asking me "please to retract" such and such that you ACTUALLY SAID, is more evidence that you are intent on continuing this fabrication rather than walking away and letting it go.

Stop being a troll, stop stalking me, stop pm'ing me (for the 12th time now) and just get a ***king life, loser.

Oh, and in an ensuing message you DID call me a "mario mother-***ker" furthering you own downfall, pathetic! Don't pretend that you didn't send me another 4 messages with your brand of hate mail. I'm not going to post any more of them unless you continue your lies and slander.

[SRBIJA]

Says the man who followed me into this thread probably again more intent on trolling than anything else, and came to the conclusion that someone needed to ask better questions, then denigrated Italians.

No you have no bias, you're being hypocritical again. Is this going to degenerate into racial name calling like your last thread to me did? I hope you don't tread into racism again.



This is pure irony coming from a Greek supporter.

Let's talk World Class players, since a team is dependant on it's skill:

Italy:
Buffon
Nesta
Gattuso
Totti
Gilardino
and arguably Cassano

Greece:
Who?



Ukraine, Serbia, Croatia and GREEECE?!?! We beat Portugal two times last year with their full squad. We beat Germany last year with our full squads. We haven't played Mexico recently. We tied Serbia in Toronto largly using our U21 squad, whereas the Serbs have used their full squad. Greece? Haven't played them for ages, but I think you need to pay attention to your own qualifying pal...Croatia? They've beaten less quality opposition lately than Italy has.

So, why don't you come up with some substance and show us specifically where Italy is "spent". Cite some games...You've already alluded to a loss to Slovenia, but so what...even good teams lose once in a while (ie; Brazil to Ecuador, Mexico, etc).

ROTFLMAO...you're trolling again...ho hum...



What truth might that be? Your trolling? You are showcasing much ignorance by stating that a team which is chalk full of talent is a "spent" force. They've only not lost a game in their last tournament, been finalists a few short years before. Have only lost 7 games in the history of WCQ matches, and are consistently in the World Cup...

Rotflmao...go away you troll.

If you want to talk about delusional, please...let us see Greece qualify first.

For everyone else reading this thread, Philipas has a history of trolling. Read the chain of events here if you want to know the truth about this manic depressive idiot:

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=13961&page=21&pp=15

Philipas you have seriously disappointed me. This is the third time you've broken your word to me and again starting trolling when you said you wouldn't. What's your problem man? The guy asked what Italy's stats were, and you come in here and insult us again. Why don't you ***k off, like the serbs asked you to when you trolled them here:

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=30878


For everyone else. Here are some notably comments by the resident village idiot Philiputz. He is not one to take seriously, and watch how quick he degenerates into calling names and hurling racist Italian slurs...

"Are all Croats resentful, right wing catholic nazis." - disguising racist comments as rhetorical questions - this is shameful.

"Isn't the USTASA synonymous with NAZI persecution, atrocities and VIOLENCE"

"Sounds like you're a closet pom to me and probably a latent xenophobe, whose been brainwashed by the media." - Pom is a racist slur for the English...well done Philiputz.

Philipas said:
"Why are there so many Turks in a Greek thread?? " As If Turks have no right to post in a public thread...yeah right Philiputz

Philipas said:
"Would you like me to call you a curac glava, uncivilsed slavic barbarian who drinks plumb brandy and sings outdated nationalistic songs." - This is most definitely a racist slur disguised as a rhetorical question. Phil, you're fooling no one by pretending to be one-for-all, as proven by your hidden racism in many of your comments in this public forum.

Philipas said:
"Greece's glorious and historic victory at EURO 2004. A small country that crushed the traditional soccer powers. If anything there victory should be encouragement to other small countries, like Serbia, that it is also possible for them to reach such meteoric heights and perhaps if they use their 'heads' in more ways than one they'll be able to attain success. I doubt that will ever happen, but hey you can dream."

Philipas said:
"The only reason the ex-Yuogoslavia did well in soccer is because of all the other republics in their federation. Serbian team has a Balkan mentality and cannot beat European teams anymore." the term "balkan mentality" is a stereotype and bordering on racist.

Philipas said:
"Your father a highly educated academic painter?? wow, an academic Serb! That'll be a first...although there must be some famous Serbs like.....hmmmm.....ahhhh......geeeee...Yeah well let me get back to you on that one. As for infamous serbs....well there's no shortage of them.
and is that picture in the background one of your daddy's work. Looks very artistic....not.Rot in hell..."

Philipas said:
"I've been watching in the news lately that Serbs have been waking up to the atrocities they committed because of footage taken of murdering innocent teenagers during the Srebrenica massacre by your piss ant, cowardly army."

Philipas said:
"Greek students can be found throughout Europe and many go to countries like Serbia and Bulgaria BECAUSE IT IS SO EASY TO GET IN. Probably because there's a lack of Serbians enrolling."



Serbia did not use anyof there full squad u ***king lying peice of shit ****.


WE had like the second team of the u-21, NO stars and yet we tied ur team that had a starter for Juventus.


Get ur facts straight.

[SRBIJA]

Tell me who are our full squad, and who played in the FRIENDLY IN CANADA?.


u stupid dick head.

[philipas]

You are morally and ethically bankrupt. I've used your own words in my "rants" against you. Unlike yourself who is chalk full of lies, failed promisses, and contradictions. Tell me, who do you think actully beleives anything you write except for you - and even you know all about your pathological lies.

You think that playing me by calling me a "guido" then saying that this is not a derogatory name in Australia carries any weight?!? Really?!? This is ridiculous. It's just another example of how well you thought out your campaign, using foreign slurs instead of local ones. Pathetic.

Your campaign has failed. Putting on the persona of sympathy by asking me "please to retract" such and such that you ACTUALLY SAID, is more evidence that you are intent on continuing this fabrication rather than walking away and letting it go.

Stop being a troll, stop stalking me, stop pm'ing me (for the 12th time now) and just get a ***king life, loser.

Oh, and in an ensuing message you DID call me a "mario mother-***ker" furthering you own downfall, pathetic! Don't pretend that you didn't send me another 4 messages with your brand of hate mail. I'm not going to post any more of them unless you continue your lies and slander.


ENOUGH. I've had it with you. Continuing to fabricate lies. you want me to use your foul language, but I won't. You can only push people so far soccerates and you are relentless, despicable and I dare not say more...I think the post above me describes you well...
I bet you are sitting there in glee, getting off on this...your morbid mind has no limits...shame on you...

[soccerates]

Serbia did not use anyof there full squad u ***king lying peice of shit ****.

WE had like the second team of the u-21, NO stars and yet we tied ur team that had a starter for Juventus.

Get ur facts straight.

I was under that impression, but you're obviously an idiot based on your comments. I will not be responding to any further shit by you.

Further, Blasi is a bench warmer at Juve...

[soccerates]

ENOUGH. I've had it with you. Continuing to fabricate lies. you want me to use your foul language, but I won't. You can only push people so far soccerates and you are relentless, despicable and I dare not say more...I think the post above me describes you well...
I bet you are sitting there in glee, getting off on this...your morbid mind has no limits...shame on you...

What is your problem? You are polluted.

[Hot Chick 9969]

Philippas,

I believe you are a disgusting person who must clean himself.

[philipas]

Philippas,

I believe you are a disgusting person who must clean himself.


Why is that because i'm using disgusting language...NOT...or because you believe his lies...
Anyway you are bias because you are an Azzurri fan and you are playing into his hands of getting people to dislike me through his character assasination of me.
Don't be so shallow, I don't hate Italians or the Azzurri...
Arivideici e va bene...

PS: Do you know him personally?? Hmmmm

[SRBIJA]

Philippas,

I believe you are a disgusting person who must clean himself.


Ppl who give themselves names like hotchick or cool guy often are the opposite...


As for soccerates, How can u say that serbia brought their a team to a FRIENDLY in TORONTO, When they didnt even have starters from u21 there, U guys are just looking for the best way to make urselfs look good.

Btw even if Blasi is a bench warmer hes still considerd good compared to u-21 players. And players that are benched arnt nessasarly bad.

So in general, Italians brought a juve player and their u-21 team while serbs brought in bench warmers from their u-21 and u-19 teams and still had the lead for most of the game.


ZIVELA SRBJIA

[philipas]

Ppl who give themselves names like hotchick or cool guy often are the opposite...


As for soccerates, How can u say that serbia brought their a team to a FRIENDLY in TORONTO, When they didnt even have starters from u21 there, U guys are just looking for the best way to make urselfs look good.

Btw even if Blasi is a bench warmer hes still considerd good compared to u-21 players. And players that are benched arnt nessasarly bad.

So in general, Italians brought a juve player and their u-21 team while serbs brought in bench warmers from their u-21 and u-19 teams and still had the lead for most of the game.


ZIVELA SRBJIA

I wouldn't be surprised if 'Hot Chic' is one of his latest fabrications. She doesn't seem to be around when he is and vice versa....I could be wrong but awfully sus....

[soccerates]

Why is that because i'm using disgusting language...NOT...or because you believe his lies...

I haven't lied about anything. Are you denying, against the mountains of evidence, that the quotes with your names in them in message #9 are false? They are specifically what YOU said to other people, and now you're crying or ashamed you said them? If you were truly ashamed you would stop threatening me and racially abusing me in private messaging, and on these forums. You'd simply ask for forgivness and never partake in such derogatory communique again, but you have not. You've gone against your word, especially when you promised to go away. You blamed "powers to be" on the slurs you sent to me, trying to convince me that a "moderator" was playing tricks on you? ROTFLMAO. When that failed you shoddily started blaming me. Well Einstein, how did I get access to your account to private message myself with? Explain that one.


Anyway you are bias because you are an Azzurri fan

Oh how incredibly weak Philipolluted. Your mind is polluted. Because someone who isn't morally and ethically bankrupt as you are takes issues with your trolling, racial slurs, etc, doesn't mean they are biased. It means they are rational and not demented like you.


and you are playing into his hands of getting people to dislike me through his character assasination of me. Don't be so shallow, I don't hate Italians or the Azzurri...Arivideici e va bene... PS: Do you know him personally?? Hmmmm

You are the liar, and you seem to be getting paranoid too...you proved you hate Italians with your many slurs against them. You're retracting now because I posted them all for people to see what a mean spirited person you are. Paranoia, btw, is a common side effect of people with manic depression (as you've aptly demonstrated).

And again you are continuing to PM me against all my requests for you to stop. You simply don't care do you? You probably think you're safe doing so because no one else can see them. Your two differing personalitie (here where you are in complete denial pretending to be sympathetic) and in pm, where you have completely crossed the line racially, are indications of your unstable psychology. The next step that I can forsee you taking is fabricating things I have not said to you. It would follow with all the dishonesty you've engaged in thus far.

Only the internet can provide a safe haven for disturbed people like you. Australia has a good mental care program, why don't you take advantage of it?

[soccerates]

I wouldn't be surprised if 'Hot Chic' is one of his latest fabrications. She doesn't seem to be around when he is and vice versa....I could be wrong but awfully sus....

Paranoia. Seems like you're talking from experience. Where did the "rock" character that started this thread disappear to? Was it one of your sock-puppets designed to get me to respond so you could troll? Makes me wonder some time.

Anyhow, the moderator of this forum can check the seperate IP addresses to confirm that I am the only person posting from this one, and not Hot Chick...I would know how to spell "chic" right, you intellectual crumb.

[soccerates]

Ppl who give themselves names like hotchick or cool guy often are the opposite...


As for soccerates, How can u say that serbia brought their a team to a FRIENDLY in TORONTO, When they didnt even have starters from u21 there, U guys are just looking for the best way to make urselfs look good.

I told you that I was under the impression that they did. I don't follow Serbian soccer so I don't know about their youth. I do know that they had Zigic and Vucinic who is Lecce's starter, and other than that - I EXPLAINED I was under the impression that they were. Now, what the ***k is your problem, calling me a **** and such? The whole Serbia situation wasn't even the main contention in this, it was Philipas and his racial issues against Italians.


Btw even if Blasi is a bench warmer hes still considerd good compared to u-21 players. And players that are benched arnt nessasarly bad.

I generally don't make it a habit of debating with people who resort to insulting others right off the bat. You did, so consider this a courtesy response. Blasi will never ever make first team on the real Azzurri unless there are injuries. He's not that good. Second, we had a complete experimental lineup...all the forwards are our bench warmers, even if they do well in Seria A...there are better players that were left home. Third, if you want to make an issue about starters, Vucinic IS a starter in Lecce. Last, this isn't a debate about Italy vs Serbia. I was under the impression that it was the Serb first team, so I made a mistake...no need to get hostile and angry with me. I did have more informed opinions about the Italians becuase I follow them more closely and knew it was a complete experiment by Lippi.


So in general, Italians brought a juve player and their u-21 team while serbs brought in bench warmers from their u-21 and u-19 teams and still had the lead for most of the game.

This is a bunch of b.s. Serbs had some starters in their lineup as I've already stated and proved...U19...lolololol

Besides I don't know what you're trying to prove. Serbia is struggling to qualify and even if they do, they'll probably get another spanking like the one the Dutch gave em in 2000.

[philipas]

I never sent any racial slurs in relation to Italians and you know it. Stop this game soccerates. We both know it is possible to fabricate messages, you said it yourself. I will end this once you delete the fabrications otherwise it will have to go to the moderators and administrtors to sort out.

[soccerates]

I never sent any racial slurs in relation to Italians and you know it.

You are lying, unless you went and editted them out, they're there for everyone to see.


Stop this game soccerates.

Who's continuing it? I'm not pm'ing you, but youcontinue to pm me, and continue to play along with your elaborate story. You're sick.

We both know it is possible to fabricate messages

Says the master of such activities...

I will end this once you delete the fabrications otherwise it will have to go to the moderators and administrtors to sort out.

Don't worry lil Phil. I have all your messages saved, and have forwarded them to the super moderator. He'll know about your activities soon enough. You'd be best to stop ***king around, and stop contacting me, you beligerent little troll.

[philipas]

your history mate...all self inflicted...too bad...little do you know how the source of messages can be retrieved...such a fool...

[soccerates]

your history mate...all self inflicted...too bad...little do you know how the source of messages can be retrieved...such a fool...


You're clearly not well. Source of messages being retrieved, rotflmao...please give it a rest, the jig is up philip....you shouldn't have said racist and derogatory things if you didn't want to be exposed.

[philipas]

signs of panic...lol...

[soccerates]

signs of panic...lol...

:sick:

you were trying hard, but you're so so so very desperate aren't you?

Obsessed with me is a better word.

[philipas]

:sick:

you were trying hard, but you're so so so very desperate aren't you?

Obsessed with me is a better word.


...LOL... :silly:

[SRBIJA]

Soccer rates, Serbia had no starters from their national team playing in the game .



you admit that u dont know anything about the serbian team and i doubt u ever will.

Secondly calling u a ***king **** is not a racial insult, more of a personal insult.

[philipas]

Soccer rates, Serbia had no starters from their national team playing in the game .



you admit that u dont know anything about the serbian team and i doubt u ever will.

Secondly calling u a ***king **** is not a racial insult, more of a personal insult.


you're absolutely right...

this is more of a racial slur from one of soccerates' freshest post..

Besides I don't know what you're trying to prove. Serbia is struggling to qualify and even if they do, they'll probably get another spanking like the one the Dutch gave em in 2000.

but soccerates only thinks other people give racial insults and then he brings things out of context or makes things up to prove his fabrications.

[soccerates]

Soccer rates, Serbia had no starters from their national team playing in the game.

Vucinic and Zigic are starters...


Secondly calling u a ***king **** is not a racial insult, more of a personal insult.

I already said it was personal, and it shows you have no class to take it to such levels without trying to be reasonalbe first. You're a degenerate.



You seem to be very nationalistic, and jingoistic:
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=31283

SRBIJA says that if they speak only serbian in the serbian forum then they can "speak their mind and not offend others"...sounds like SRBIJA here wants to be offensive as a matter of priority. It really says it all about this character doesn't it?

[soccerates]

you're absolutely right...

this is more of a racial slur from one of soccerates' freshest post..

Besides I don't know what you're trying to prove. Serbia is struggling to qualify and even if they do, they'll probably get another spanking like the one the Dutch gave em in 2000.

but soccerates only thinks other people give racial insults and then he brings things out of context or makes things up to prove his fabrications.


Something is seriously wrong with you, and I don't think anyone will deny it.

[philipas]

Something is seriously wrong with you, and I don't think anyone will deny it.

soccerates, you're the one who always points the finger...well, if you can't take it don't dish it out...

[soccerates]

soccerates, you're the one who always points the finger...well, if you can't take it don't dish it out...


Eh? Says the man who keeps asking me to stop showing everyone where he has been obviously racist. Sure...pot calling kettle black...please clean the egg off your face, and stop mailing me with your hate. And al Italians are not "pasta eating pisolino testa merda's"

[philipas]

see what I mean, you're doing the provoking, making things up and then you expect me to sit silently...man, you know what you are doing is wrong but you persist...and then brag that you're baiting me...Is this the actions of a grown man???
give it a rest will you...

[soccerates]

see what I mean,

You really really really need to get a hobby, because antagonizing people will one day come back to haunt you. You might be able to get away with it on this forum because it is anonymous, and that protects you, but I'd like to see a big tuff guy like you go and call an Italian half your size a "mario" or "mafioso pimp daddy" to his face and see how tuff you are then Phil.

Geez. Would you stop your corophilic orgy and move onto something more healthy for yourself. Even after 17 requests you've continued to private mail me. If you never respond to another one of my messages with derogatory hate inspired racist or bigoted comments, you'd never hear from me. Maybe that's what frightens you? Getting a response from troll bait is always something that energizes trolls like you. Maybe I'm just not clever enough and keep falling for your bait. You're so clever Philipoison, you keep getting me to bite your bait. My bad....

[SRBIJA]

Soccer rates if i heard correctly , u said Serbia had their entire national first squad, When we had two players that each relaxed on the bench for the most part. I watched the game i was there while ur reading from the net and looking at biased opionions from the italians.


Your ridiculous no one in this forum welcomes you, in my opinion ur a post whore, you have been hear for a month and u have almost 700 posts and which 90% are just arguments with others. You have to learn u cannot do shit on the internet.

[soccerates]

SRBIJA, what kind of problems do you have reading what I write correctly?

[soccerates]

Soccer rates if i heard correctly

This is a text-based forum. Does that clue you in any?

And, you clearly haven't 'read' me properly, otherwise you would have caught this (as I said it 3X now)
"I was under the impression that it was their full squad, and if I made a mistake it doesn't need for you to become hostile"


while ur reading from the net and looking at biased opionions from the italians.


You're missing a crucial point...I don't give a flying ***k about that game, it wasn't the 'highlight' of this thread, and your attitude was uncalled for. So piss off.


Your ridiculous no one in this forum welcomes you,

it's "you're"' not "your", also this is the ITALIAN forum, not the SERBIAN one, and I'd venture a good guess that most people accept me more than they would you and your behavior in this thread..."biased opionions from the italians" my ass.

And What's an "opionion" jr?


in my opinion ur a post whore, you have been hear for a month

"here" not "hear", "hear" is related to 'hearing' you intellectual dud.


and u have almost 700 posts and which 90% are just arguments with others. You have to learn u cannot do shit on the internet.

Excuse me? Debate is a part of life, and I've had as many debates as I've had one liner comments (which seem to be your specialty) sans the hostility that you've shown. I have to learn that I cannot "do shit" on the internet? What are you talking about "shit"? Are you the police for how one engages in debate around here calling people "****s" in the process?

You seem to be confused about rational argumentation (debate) and shit-talking (what you seem only capable of).

You're a small minded tyrant, and a weak foe. ***k off you cretin.

[SRBIJA]

I dont give a flying ***k about what you say. And i remeber you saying that you wouldnt respond to my posts. Well good job :silly:



Hearing all these insults by a post whore dosnt bother me, and your insults to philipas are so shit. o you have problems, O your terrrible derranged bla bla bla.


Your telling me that attitude like that isnt good while your telling me in your last post "piss off" "You're a small minded tyrant, and a weak foe. ***k off you cretin."


lol your such a post whore. Keep talking like your doing somthing on the internet thats so valuble.



btw you were the one that brought up the serbia italy game, and i dont watch my spelling when im writing to a bitch.

[soccerates]

I dont give a flying ***k about what you say. And i remeber you saying that you wouldnt respond to my posts. Well good job :silly:

Classic troll behavior to be proud of having their incomprehensible and demented postings followed up on.


btw you were the one that brought up the serbia italy game,

In an Italian forum, on a completely different topic. Can you read english at least? Cuz the title asks some questions about the Azzurri history, of which you interupted with your childish rants. Do you get beaten a lot by your parents by any chance?


and i dont watch my spelling when im writing to a bitch.

Nice excuse, but you're just too stupid to know how to spell better. In fact, I think you might have some brain damage. See your doctor soon :thumbsup:

[SRBIJA]

I am very sorry but your insults dont offend me, but apperently they offend you because you respond to every word i say :rolling: . In my opinon all you do is look for trouble and conflicts, dont cry the fact that Italy is losing their edge. Everyone knows that there losing their stars and classic players.



btw,,, In the last few pages of this thread has their been any questions about the azzuri history? apperntly not, because you made it into an argument thread.

[soccerates]

I am very sorry

Sorry for what?

but your insults dont offend me,

Do you think I care what an unusually angry person like you thinks? Guess again.


dont cry the fact that Italy is losing their edge. Everyone knows that there losing their stars and classic players.

Cry about what? We have our best team since 1990, especially in attack. There hasn't been an Italian striker like Gilardino since the days of Paolo Rossi. He's absolutely phenomenol. He is being chased by Milan,Chelsea (kuz they're goingto axe the flop Kezman) and Madrid currently, although critics think he'll go to Milan. Milan have Schevchenko and Crespo...why do you think they want Gilardino? Only because he's better and younger at 23.

Our youth situation is very good too. We just won the U21 Euro cup for the record 5th time against.....hmmm....er....Serbia (3-0), last year (http://www.figc.it/versione_inglese/club_italia/html/euro_u21_2004/europei_u21_2004.htm) :rolling:

http://www.figc.it/versione_inglese/club_italia/html/euro_u21_2004/img/foto_primo_piano_03.jpg

So how anyone can say Italy is a "spent" force like your pal Philipas has said, is ridiculous and proves they just don't know what they're talking about.

You can wish what you like, but I think Serbia should worry about qualifying. I watched their game vs Belgium with their (full squad) and was not impressed. You guys just tied Bulgaria, a team that Croatia absolutely demolished, what's up with that?

Stankovic is your best player. Vucinic IS a starter, and if you didn't know that then you're more clueless than I though.

Kezman is hype and even Mourinho at Chelsea knows, which is why he's trying to get rid of him. Apparently Athletico was going to buy him, but is thinking about old and aging Italian stiker Vieri instead. Vieri is about 5th or 6th on our depth charts. Lucarelli (24 goals in Seria A) Toni (22 goals) and Monetella (22) are all ahead of Vieri, and they will all be on the bench. Our attack is stacked.


btw,,, In the last few pages of this thread has their been any questions about the azzuri history? apperntly not, because you made it into an argument thread.


The irony of someone, who quite possibly is brain damanged, accusing me of making it into an argument thread after calling me a ****. :mad2: Whatever you say SRBIJA.

Why are you such an angry person?!? :confused:

[valdanito_10]

all 3 of yopu can consider urself warned.


one more thing of this and i will start banning!


i cant belive how imature some ppl can be


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