Real offer for Lampard??

[havok]

i heard that real offered owen plus solari..for lampard...but that chelsea brushed it off? anyone hear anything else? correct me if im wrong..

[realmadrid289]

i never heard smthn like dat, real need owen n solari, lampard is not important, the best english man played 4 real was McMANAMAN, i will nvr think of lampard replacing him

[Boko]

Real Madrid offer Owen, Solari for Chelsea ace Lampard
tribalfootball.com - June 26, 2005

Real Madrid have made a sensational mega offer to Chelsea for midfield star Frank Lampard.

The News of the World says Real are offering £20 million cash, plus striker Michael Owen and midfielder Santiago Solari, for Lampard.

Lampard's agent Steve Kutner confirmed: "It's very flattering for Frank to be wanted by a club as big as Real Madrid.

"But Frank has just participated in an incredible season at Chelsea and so long as they continue to want him, he'll be giving everything he can to help them win more and more trophies."

Madrid's move for Lampard, flatly rejected by Chelsea, underlines how the England ace has become one of the greatest midfielders in the world since his Ј11m switch to Stamford Bridge from West Ham.

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This is what I found. There was some others articles but they had no big difference at all

[Minof]

All, shit talk id say.
Papers have no Real transfers to talk about. :sealed:

[Maxpayne]

Why real hates Owen so much?? owen is doing wonderful! 13 goals in 1-st season and don't beign in the field each game.... Beckhams pass and owen's shot's is the best attacking power for real , not Some kinda Raul!

[Lance Knight]

hey stop blaming the strikers its the midfield's fault, they cant get the ball up the field, and beskham hardly ever touches the ball, i guess he cant keep up with the spanish football anymore,

[Maxpayne]

hey stop blaming the strikers its the midfield's fault, they cant get the ball up the field, and beskham hardly ever touches the ball, i guess he cant keep up with the spanish football anymore,
I got mine opinion that's it. It just Raul is not even 1% better than Owen and everybody want to sell Owem in 1-st place

[shado]

Why real hates Owen so much?? owen is doing wonderful! 13 goals in 1-st season and don't beign in the field each game.... Beckhams pass and owen's shot's is the best attacking power for real , not Some kinda Raul!

//Why real hates Owen so much??

The reason is that he is a direct threat for Raul... At the current point of time owen is playing much better than Raul..

But in my personal opinion i would like to see all three of the strikers to play..I really hope Raul finds his magical touch again...

[cheongsteron]

hey shado i'm behind u...i really hope raul find his touch again...i oso agree tat midfielders r not producing enough...morientes could hav benefited more with beckham...but not raul n ronaldo...owen played with beckham...tats y he score goals...raul may b playin off position..but he claimed tat hes happier juz to stilll stay in first team...ya owen is better...but they r all gd....Raul may b goal drought...but he'll b back...d 4-3-3 position..is so effective...raul starts scoring..owen scores ronnie scores...juz wait for d season to start....if they continue tis way...they'll b back....as for lampard...real doesnt need him....he is redundant...not suitbable to play in la liga....he is complete...but not tat a playmaker or something...he is gd...he assist he scores..hes gd...ok but real don need him...

[Mirko Mandic]

u cant except this many goals in one season 4-3-3 usual has one or 2 fowards as wingers or attickive mids that drop bak just a bit what real need is to play the dimond system

-----OWEN-----ROBINHO-----
----------ZIDANE------------
-SOLARI-------------BECKHAM
---------SHREK(or sum ada def. mid if one is bought)
-CARLOS-WOODGATE-HELGURA-SALGADO
----------CASILAS----------

or drop the wingers and move them as central mids and swap solari for a mid.

[Minof]

u cant except this many goals in one season 4-3-3 usual has one or 2 fowards as wingers or attickive mids that drop bak just a bit what real need is to play the dimond system

-----RONALDO-----ROBINHO-----
----------ZIDANE------------
-???????-------------BECKHAM
---------SHREK(or sum ada def. mid if one is bought)
-CARLOS-WOODGATE-HELGURA-SALGADO
----------CASILAS----------

or drop the wingers and move them as central mids and swap solari for a mid.

Swap Owen for Ronaldo, A new LW as Solari is on his way F*ck Lampard we have Zidane and there you have a good team.

[lallan]

gerrard, lampard or ballack, if any1 of these 3 comes 2 real, many problems will be solved, these players run the entire field, score a lot of goals & defend very well, there is not a single player in real wich such characteristics, gravesen is defensive, zidane is offensive but there isnt 1 player who is both, thats why real is trying 2 get 1 of those, and in my opinion since gerrard & lampard r almost impossible 2 get, real should get ballack who will come easy...he is a galactico 100%

even pablo garcia is a defensive player.......

[Minof]

gerrard, lampard or ballack, if any1 of these 3 comes 2 real, many problems will be solved, these players run the entire field, score a lot of goals & defend very well, there is not a single player in real wich such characteristics, gravesen is defensive, zidane is offensive but there isnt 1 player who is both, thats why real is trying 2 get 1 of those, and in my opinion since gerrard & lampard r almost impossible 2 get, real should get ballack who will come easy...he is a galactico 100%

even pablo garcia is a defensive player.......

True, We would all like to see Ballack at Real, some player.
He is a Galactico by a mile and would certainly help out the whole team. ;)

[Lance Knight]

the thing that pisses me off a bit, is the fact that the team was finally glueing back together and now some transfers may shit it up again

[lallan]

I think the team needs some new players, because even if they did play well at the end of last season, that team cant survive by itself an entire season competing 4 all trophies, i think ballack & robinho r a must, and they can get some substitutes who come in and give their 100%.......

[Dado_Prso_09]

they got the best strikers but not the best mid fielders yes beckham is good but he doesnt create well reall need a top notch midfielder like ballack , gerrard , Ronaldinho, cchristiano someone who sees the field well and can create chances
i dunno why they keep buying strikers when they have the best ones if they get 1 or 2 mid fielders that are world class then real will be unstopable
p.s watch out or robinho when he comes :cap: :thumbsup:

[Mirko Mandic]

Swap Owen for Ronaldo, A new LW as Solari is on his way F*ck Lampard we have Zidane and there you have a good team.
i dont like ronaldo so no solari damn u guys got mo more LFT Wingers you gona have to go shopping unless u play Robinho there wen he arrives cause he can play Lft wing

[Lance Knight]

i agree , and i actually think that ballack is the glactico that should be signed if any at all, he can bring to the team what zindane used to give in his younger days

[lallan]

i am really surprised how on earth arrigo sacchi is not going seriously after ballack!!!!

[cheongsteron]

i hav a quite ridiculous 1 but he is a gd buy~~ juAn pAblo AimAR!!! isnt he gd...playmaker...everything...used to la liga's style...ya...i will miss solari...he is all rounder...he play so hard...LB LW Forward...n everything...haiz...too bad...we need somebody who is willing to sit d bench n play anytime lk him... now we no longer hav...earlier on was cambiasso..ok he isnt tat fantastic.. but tis ppl add depth to d team...i agree tat it is now vv bad to break them up as they hav picked themselves up from such low morale...1 or 2 replacement signings is gd enuf...n a few complete player n youngsters as dEpth of d team

[Boko]

I don't think Ballack, Gerrard or Lampard are kind of players we need. We need Defensive Defensive Midfielders :) we don't have any one of that sort right now. Gravesen was more like playmaker in Everton before arriving in Madrid (he's now different but we will need a sub for him or someone better) and Guti is the same, Helguera is more defender. So if we buy some one of the trio we can't play him towards Zidane (it looks like he'll be with us for at least a season) in midfield it's too much offensive and we'll be at the point we started last season looking for DM again. Ballack and Lampard are always all out of attack, Gerrard is more complex player but he's not the best option IMO.
According to the ratiocination: Owen is better than Raul that's why he's his biggest enemy... or smt of that sort. I just want to tell you before comparing players try to put them in similar positions not only on the pitch but even mentally. If you put owen behind Raul and Ronaldo and try make him support them with passes who you think will score more? And yes this is his 1st season so he's good for his performance but what about player that is in madrid for 10 or more years and he's seeing his team mates stugling in defence and even worst as he's the captain of the team the player that everyone look at not only to score but also to help the team when it's in difficult position. So do you think it's esyer to stay upfront and wait you're time to score while watching 4 players (5 in the best occasion) playing against 10 in defence or get back and help them? If you can't decide yet I'll help you. Now think about the same situation but + another 2 or 3 players around you in the attack so what now ? someone has to go back who will be ? and my answer is the player who care most about the team and less about his goal account ! (RAUL)
I don't want to attack anyone or praise Raul. This is just my opinion on the topic obout comparing Raul to other attackers and saying he's crap just because he's not scoring regularly anymore :)

[Lance Knight]

I agree with u excapt for the part of more defensive midfielders

First we need to get rid of ronaldo, Figo, Zindane, Woodgate, Pavon, and Baul Bravo

Get Ballack for Zindane,
Shevenko for Ronaldo, (this could happen as AC Milan really want ronaldo and we have been offered Shev in the past)

Robinho for the left wing,

and probably Metzehelder of some bigass defender

if we have 2 steady centre backs then there would be no need for a defnesive mid,

[Mirko Mandic]

i like that plan u missed out on best FREE CB in world in R.KOVAC u will see what he will do ad JUVE only reason perez would not have lookd at him is he is a "Quite player" does his job well hell wonderfuly and doesnt barg "IM THE BEST" that is team spirit he always says "THE TEAM PLAYED WELL TODAY SO I LOOKED GOOD" but in acctual fact he played awsome and myd bayern look good.

[hezri]

There is something wrong terribly in our defence . Our possession is the best ine world but when it comes to opponent attacking us . All the players obviously got very hard time . It is painful to see them being toyed .

I wonder what is the real problem in the defence . Maybe .. no excellent DM . No pacey cantrehalf . Helguera is not even a normal defender . It's Ok to have Helguera there when zidane and figo were not old , when raul was a demon , but now .... we need a stable defence .

[Raulwillbeback]

I agree with u excapt for the part of more defensive midfielders

First we need to get rid of ronaldo, Figo, Zindane, Woodgate, Pavon, and Baul Bravo

Get Ballack for Zindane,
Shevenko for Ronaldo, (this could happen as AC Milan really want ronaldo and we have been offered Shev in the past)

Robinho for the left wing,

and probably Metzehelder of some bigass defender

if we have 2 steady centre backs then there would be no need for a defnesive mid,

Why are you a Ronaldo Hater, he is the best striker in the world, who creates for himself. Shevcenko isn't as good as ronaldo. He relies on support from the midfield. He is a another owen, and we already have owen, so it worthless to get him. Anyway i think Shevcenko would cause more problems because he is not tested in the la liga

[RaulMadrid7]

I agree with u excapt for the part of more defensive midfielders

First we need to get rid of ronaldo, Figo, Zindane, Woodgate, Pavon, and Baul Bravo

Get Ballack for Zindane,
Shevenko for Ronaldo, (this could happen as AC Milan really want ronaldo and we have been offered Shev in the past)

Robinho for the left wing,

and probably Metzehelder of some bigass defender

if we have 2 steady centre backs then there would be no need for a defnesive mid,

Lance, I'm gonna have to disagree wtih you on the Zidane part, Zidane was the main reason why Real Madrid got as far as they did in the Champions League last season, and as shown in the game against Juventus, right when he was subbed the Real midfield waas taken over.

If you think Ballack can replace a player like Zidane, then I must remind you that he it will be one of the greatest mistakes Real would ever do in terms of player transfers.

Shevchenko for Ronaldo? lol... no Serie A and AC Milan and La Liga and Real Madrid are a whole different stage for strikers, and if Sheva comes to Real Madrid, it wouldn't be a bad transfer, but to replace a player like Ronaldo it would be disasterous.

We are on a verge on transfering Figo to Liverpool, I personally think it's a sad but good decision that is being made.

Oh and by the way one of the best centre backs on earth has just left Real Madrid to Inter Milan(Samuel) and with 2 new defenders that are very exciting to wait for, it wasn't a very bad decision.

Zidane and Ronaldo, obviously 2 of the best players in the world should not be touched, because they are still the most effective players at Real Madrid, and with these new transfers they are bound to perform much better, I mean seriously Ballack would be a terrible decision not only because he simply can't replace Zidane, but because he wouldn't have the chemistry which is what Luxemburgo has been working so hard at building here at Real Madrid.

[Lance Knight]

u guys are crazy, ronaldo is a flop, and only players his best when it suits him, that lazy bastard doesnt work like how in fact any player does, and shevenko is the orginal hitman, the best striker in this age, and ballack and Zindane are exactly the same, its just ballack doesnt get as much media coverge and recongination because he plays in germany,
so what we still lost to juventus, Zindane helped a bit in that 1 game Ballck can do that for every game

[shado]

u guys are crazy, ronaldo is a flop, and only players his best when it suits him, that lazy bastard doesnt work like how in fact any player does, and shevenko is the orginal hitman, the best striker in this age, and ballack and Zindane are exactly the same, its just ballack doesnt get as much media coverge and recongination because he plays in germany,
so what we still lost to juventus, Zindane helped a bit in that 1 game Ballck can do that for every game

Shev is a good stiker , but putting him in Ronaldos shoes will be a big mistake... In my opinion playing in SerieA and playing in La leque is completely different... Ronaldo and Zidane are pure magic...and replacing Zidane with Ballack must be a joke..

[realmadrid289]

Shev is a good stiker , but putting him in Ronaldos shoes will be a big mistake... In my opinion playing in SerieA and playing in La leque is completely different... Ronaldo and Zidane are pure magic...and replacing Zidane with Ballack must be a joke..
yea rite, only who can replace zizo n roni r young playerz who r willing 4 trophies

[Lance Knight]

right ballack is only 26 think, and shev is the kinda person who can fully anyone shoes, hell ronaldo shoes is too small for shev

[shado]

right ballack is only 26 think, and shev is the kinda person who can fully anyone shoes, hell ronaldo shoes is too small for shev

That is what we are saying Ronaldos shoes wont fit for shev...

Ronaldo is pure magic and the bottom line is he is a Galactico.. :)

[Raulwillbeback]

lance you seem to be the only one who thinks ronaldo is not a good player. last season he had 21 in league, shevcenko had 16 i think. i would like to add that was ronaldo's lowest goal output for a long long while when he has played a full season, he would have to 30 + in the season before, if he didn't get injured.

[RaulMadrid7]

lance you seem to be the only one who thinks ronaldo is not a good player. last season he had 21 in league, shevcenko had 16 i think. i would like to add that was ronaldo's lowest goal output for a long long while when he has played a full season, he would have to 30 + in the season before, if he didn't get injured.
Exactly, Lance you gotta understand even when Real weren't doing good last season at the end we were winning big time because of Luxemburgo, even Ronaldo who scored more goals then Shevchenko wasn't playing his best football.

Now imagine this season coming up where Luxemburgo has planned and is getting ready for the new season with a very very powerfull line up, now why would be destroy that with players like Lampard, Ballack, and Shevchenko who would not have the chemistry or even the skill level to perform in the La Liga as they do in other leagues.

I can tell you right now if Ronaldo was playing with AC Milan, he would score a crazy amount of goals with players like Kaka and Cafu assisting those beautifull passes.

Ronaldo has more speed, skill and goalscoring ability period, Zidane has more skill than Ballack although Ballack is still one of the best midfielders in the world and is Germanys best player but still he would definetly not replace Zidanes spot without a doubt.

Lampard is another story, without Lampards beloved Makelele who got his back in every Chelsea game, Lampard would show that he is just another player at Real Madrid.

I personally think Lampard for his own good should stay with his homecountry club, the same goes for Ballack, and the same goes for Shevchenko. And also each one of those players is the most crucial for thier club so why would they be sold, if they were to be sold it would be a ridiculous amount of money that I hope Real Madrid won't be fooled with.

Lance just watch what happens this season coming up, Real Madrid will be the club to watch out for, once again.

[shado]

I can tell you right now if Ronaldo was playing with AC Milan, he would score a crazy amount of goals with players like Kaka and Cafu assisting those beautifull passes.

Ronaldo has more speed, skill and goalscoring ability period, Zidane has more skill than Ballack although Ballack is still one of the best midfielders in the world and is Germanys best player but still he would definetly not replace Zidanes spot without a doubt.

Lance just watch what happens this season coming up, Real Madrid will be the club to watch out for, once again.
Adis ABABA :)
Whatever Iam trying to convey, You have said it in just two lines...

Last season with all the troubles, Coach/manager changes, injuries etc., etc... Real Madrid trailed Barcelona by a hairline margin...In the later part of the season we gave Barcelona a hell of a scare...

For the present season with all the planing and preparation by Luxemburgo and with the likes of Ronaldo, Raul, Owen, Zidane, Beckham in the team..we are going to dominate the soccer world. We will once again be the most dreaded and most poweful Team.

Beware GAlacticos will be Back...

[RaulMadrid7]

Adis ABABA :)
Whatever Iam trying to convey, You have said it in just two lines...

Last season with all the troubles, Coach/manager changes, injuries etc., etc... Real Madrid trailed Barcelona by a hairline margin...In the later part of the season we gave Barcelona a hell of a scare...

For the present season with all the planing and preparation by Luxemburgo and with the likes of Ronaldo, Raul, Owen, Zidane, Beckham in the team..we are going to dominate the soccer world. We will once again be the most dreaded and most poweful Team.

Beware GAlacticos will be Back...

Hey, are you a new member?

Glad to see another Real Madrid supporter here. :thumbsup:

You will learn alot here about Real Madrid than the media thinks.

[Lance Knight]

i like ronaldo to extent, it is just he doesnt work to get the ball, if he gets it he does some great things, but he doesnt want to work to get it, he is just lazy, now lux's forrmation would be

-----Ronaldo-----------------Owen
-------------------Raul--------------

this way raul will always be in the position to feed him the ball so things got better, i dont want him gone, all i was saying is that he needs to work to get the ball more,

[RaulMadrid7]

i like ronaldo to extent, it is just he doesnt work to get the ball, if he gets it he does some great things, but he doesnt want to work to get it, he is just lazy, now lux's forrmation would be

-----Ronaldo-----------------Owen
-------------------Raul--------------

this way raul will always be in the position to feed him the ball so things got better, i dont want him gone, all i was saying is that he needs to work to get the ball more,

Yeah, I have to admit you're right about Ronaldo being a little more lazy in terms of coming back and helping the defensive side, but that is only because he is waiting for that one pass that if he stays up front no one can outrun him to get it. But still he should come back and help a little more, but still his job is to score goals and he is very talented at that.

And that formation you wrote is not a good one at all because first of all Raul never does well behind 2 forwards, Raul in his glory days at Madrid always used to be upfront and running towards goal, not assisting all the time.

Remember that game in the Champions League final, Real Madrid vs Leverkusen, and R.Carlos had a free throw thrown towards Raul and that was the winning goal of the game when Raul finished it. That is what Raul is good at, finishing effective passes, and putting him behind Ronaldo and Owen won't be a wise decision, it was even shown last season where nothing good came out of it. But I understand right now Ronaldo and Owen are much more effective in those positions so my best bet would be to play with 2 forwards not 3 for now.

My prefered formation with the current players we have is this for the new season. Pablo Garcia is a defensive midfielder along Graveson which will make our midfield very solid, especially with Zidane and Beckhams attacking power, this will probably be one of the strongest midfield formations in European club football. Ronaldo and Owen 2 of the best goalscorers on earth, alongside a very strong defense with a new talented defender, Carlos Diogo. Carlos Diogo is very talented and strong minded young guy, Salgado as we all know is a good defender, Helguera will hold the middle and Roberto Carlo's defensive + attacking strenght is a big boost. Casillas, arguably the best goalkeepr in the world right now alongside Buffon, what more can we ask for?

--------------------Ronaldo------------Owen-----------------

---------Zidane------PabloGarcia----Graveson-----Beckham----

----RobertoCarlos----CarlosDiogo----Helguera------Salgado---

------------------------------Casillas-------------------------------

This is truly a formation that will become a big threat to every club in Europe.

Lux and Sacchi have definately created a secret weapon, all that remains is to pull the trigger.

When I made this line up it made me look at it in a very interesting way, let me share it with you guys with colours:

RED = more of a defensive player
GREEN = more of a offensive player

--------------------Ronaldo------------Owen-----------------

--------Zidane------PabloGarcia----Graveson-----Beckham----

----RobertoCarlos----CarlosDiogo----Helguera------Salgado---

------------------------------Casillas-------------------------------

[shado]

Hey, are you a new member?

Glad to see another Real Madrid supporter here. :thumbsup:

You will learn alot here about Real Madrid than the media thinks.


Thanks for the welcome....

And about hte starting lineup, I like last seasons more offensive formation (Diamond formation, Raul heading the offfensive midfield )better..

-----Ronaldo-----------------Owen
-------------------Raul--------------

In the second half we can switch to this formation:

--------------------Ronaldo/Raul/owen------------Owen/Raul/Ronaldo------

--------Zidane------PabloGarcia----Graveson-----Beckham----

----RobertoCarlos----CarlosDiogo----Helguera------Salgado---

------------------------------Casillas-------------------------------

[Lance Knight]

shado u got 23 players on the field, lol

but raulmadrid playing with two defensive mids is what was the whole lack of offensive that was a complete failure of the 2003-2004 season,

aslo raul is now longer a striker, he has returned to his rightful place in midfield

[Raulwillbeback]

yea i dont get why people say raul doesn't play well in the postion behind owen and ronaldo. he scored more goals and played a lot better last season in that position. remember it all started in the real-barca game, no one can say he played bad then.