Fenerbahce Hate!

[Refeto]

I've been looking around in the forums, listening ppl and reading newspapers about Fenerbahce, Galatasaray and Besiktas. All I see is hate to Fenerbahce. What did Fenerbahce did to you? I see this as a jealouisy, nothing else. I mean Fenerbahce is getting bigger and bigger everyday. Especially Galatasaray trying to organize this.

Why do i say Galatasaray is trying to that? Here are some reasons. Hurriyet is one of the most biggest newspaper in Turkey, right? But through the SuperLig, we saw Fenerbahce beating certain team 7-0 and newspapers says Fenerbahce fans left the stadium sad. Later on Galatasaray plays with the same team and the score is 2-2 but the article's headline is "Galatasaray played superbly". Similar thing Fenerbahce beats another team 6-0 this season and the headline is "Buldular Garibani" which means "They found the poor"(not to mention we beat GS 6-0 as well). but later on Galatasaray beats the same team 1-0 with penalty(which has nothing to do with penalty) and the headline is "Hagi's superb tactic". And at the end of the season Galatasaray president telld media when we beat them 1-0 and won the SuperLig, he says"See Fenerbahce can win without the refree help. If there was no "refree mistakes" we could've win the championship by a big point gap" RIIIIIIIIIIGHT! YOU COULD...

All they do is trying to screw up Fenerbahce. After the game against Manshester United everbody is saying Fenerbahce recived 3 goals from a 19 years old blah blah…They were saying Sakaryaspor’s whole budget is equal to Fenerbahce’s couple players trasfer fee. That 19 years old Rooney’s transfer fee is 70 million dolar which is close to Fenerbahce’s budget which is 100 millon. But this is not even the trasfer budget of Fenebahce. The comments of the newspapers are very idiotic if you think about it that way. Galatasaray became champions 4 times in row and at the end they got UEFA cup. That’s what Fenerbahce is trying to do. We try, we try, we try, and finally get to the point, we have that experience. Fenerbahce is not the old Fenerbahce anymore. PUT THAT IN YOUR HEAD!! We are not looking for a one time UEFA cup final and just do nothing after that and also talk abou it next 100 years that saying “ we got the cup in Europe once, what did you do?”. We’re putting a system that will last looooong time. Aziz Yildirim and his crew said we will have a succes in the European Cups by 2007-2008 and slowly everything is getting there.

DON’T be scared!. Your player Ribery was about to leave because you couldn’t pay his money. Good luck to Galatasaray, with that kind of system. If I was GS fan, I would be crying, because of their board’s working sytem like I used to cry before for ours. Instead talking about Fenerbahce, talk about your team to make it better. Otherwise it will be very hard to catch Fenerbahce very soon.

Even though Daum makes mistakes, Im part of the Fenerbahce family and Republic of Fenerbahce ;) SO I SAY HEP DESTEK, TAM DESTEK(Always Support, Full Support).....If we brake his confidence, his gonna keep make mistakes. He needs our support to be succesful!

PS: DO NOT WRITE INSULTING MESSAGES, THIS IS A EARLY WARNING!

[SiN]

i know how u feel refeto...dont take these guys too seriously...its great too see such loyalty to ur club..u r doing ur best in supportin ur club im sure...the newspapers and media in turkey are out of control and the citizens that support football...(millions of them) are truly crazy about football and somtimes make these sort od comments once in a while and im am certain that Gala fans do it most of the time...we are not jealous just a bit tired of how we are being pressured...take last season for example...we beat uz twice very importantly then lost at the most crucial of times...we feel as if the league was taken away from us...but we dont come to reliase that Fener playd consistinly thorught out the league wherase Gala had many ups and downs throught the season...so wen Hagi quit as the coach and this new guy was appointd we are having even more pressure and the fans probably want to take it out on u guys since we a bitter rivals...dont get tooo upset about it mate...

[Fener_05]

I 100% agree with you Refeto. Thats the same way i think.
All i can say to this is that Fenerbahce should ignore all the newspapers, media etc and play and win their matches, win the league whatever and finally all the jealous people will crack and lose it.

Galatasaray are apprantly in 40 million dedt from wages and other things.(i heard this on a galatasaray forum from a galatasaray fan) Is this true.

[Aryan]

Can someone tell me what Fenerbahce means in English?

[Fener_05]

Fenerbahce is a Turkish team.:D

[Aryan]

Fenerbahce is a Turkish team.:D
Really? No, I asked for meaning of word Fenerbahce-like Crvena Zvezda means Red Star.

[philipas]

Really? No, I asked for meaning of word Fenerbahce-like Crvena Zvezda means Red Star.


Hello Aryan...how are you? Have you seen the film romper stomper??
I think fenerbahce means fener - from Phanari which means lighthouse in greek and fener is the ol'greek area of istanbul, while bahce means garden
So it's lighthouse gardens, perhaps...

[philipas]

does crvena mean red and zvezda mean star???

[philipas]

I have another question for you Aryan, that i think you can help me with my essay???
Are you willing to give advice???

[Aryan]

does crvena mean red and zvezda mean star???
I am fine, thank you 4 asking. Crvena=red, zvezda=star. And, yes I saw Romper about 10 times.Why do u ask?

[Aryan]

I have another question for you Aryan, that i think you can help me with my essay???
Are you willing to give advice???
Provoking or what? What about?

[philipas]

I am fine, thank you 4 asking. Crvena=red, zvezda=star. And, yes I saw Romper about 10 times.Why do u ask?

only because it's a great movie and it was filmed in my city...are you willing to help me with my essay...i'm being very serious here....I will not insult you or put anyone down and i didn't really mean what said about serbia, your dad or belgrade...i was just pissed off....after seeing pics of the babes in belgrade i'm hanging to go there now...
so what do you say???

[Aryan]

only because it's a great movie and it was filmed in my city...are you willing to help me with my essay...i'm being very serious here....I will not insult you or put anyone down and i didn't really mean what said about serbia, your dad or belgrade...i was just pissed off....after seeing pics of the babes in belgrade i'm hanging to go there now...
so what do you say???
Fair enuff. What`s it all about? BTW Romper`s not bad-but there aretons of better skinhead films and Clockwork Orange rules.

[philipas]

Fair enuff. What`s it all about? BTW Romper`s not bad-but there aretons of better skinhead films and Clockwork Orange rules.


yes i like clockwork orange...its by stanley kubrik i think...american history X is one of the best of that 'genre' if you can put them in the same bracket, but a reall hooligan film is football factory...very funny as well if you ask me...

anyway, i have an essay to write for cultural studies...it's about collective memory and how museums are sites where memories are contested...

I want to look at the holocaust and the memorials to them...some writers say, including jewish ones that they are inappropriate because they trivialise the issue and are used by one side to put the suffering forward while others are ignored...how how do you feel about this and do you have anything to add??
I am only asking you because i want a skinhead's opinion even if other people think it doesn't count...i think all opinions should be heard so we can hear different views...even if they're extreme...

personally i think it was a great human tragedy....but don't let that influence your beliefs and answers to me

i will have to reference you in my essay and my tutor will probably be glad i had the opportunity to get a varied opinion and opportunity to safely communicate with you...

I'm being serious and i'm not leading you down some dark alley...
you don't have to do it if you don't want to and I won't hold anything against you even if I disagree with your views...i will ask some questions though...

what do you think???

[Aryan]

yes i like clockwork orange...its by stanley kubrik i think...american history X is one of the best of that 'genre' if you can put them in the same bracket, but a reall hooligan film is football factory...very funny as well if you ask me...

anyway, i have an essay to write for cultural studies...it's about collective memory and how museums are sites where memories are contested...

I want to look at the holocaust and the memorials to them...some writers say, including jewish ones that they are inappropriate because they trivialise the issue and are used by one side to put the suffering forward while others are ignored...how how do you feel about this and do you have anything to add??
I am only asking you because i want a skinhead's opinion even if other people think it doesn't count...i think all opinions should be heard so we can hear different views...even if they're extreme...

personally i think it was a great human tragedy....but don't let that influence your beliefs and answers to me

i will have to reference you in my essay and my tutor will probably be glad i had the opportunity to get a varied opinion and opportunity to safely communicate with you...

I'm being serious and i'm not leading you down some dark alley...
you don't have to do it if you don't want to and I won't hold anything against you even if I disagree with your views...i will ask some questions though...

what do you think???
To be frank-I can`t aswer you the way I want-cuz this is football forum and I`ll probably get banned because of my words. I have personal and family reasons for being involved in whole NS story. But, my main beliefs are based on my own expirience-I was involved in recent wars-although it`s not best thing to remember(I was very young), I`m still proud for being given a chance to defend my country. If you wish I can give u my mail and discuss of it in private. And, being skin is what I am-I`m skin for about 12 years. But that doesn`t made me go to wrong direction-I worked very hard my whole life and now I have a good job that I`m satisfied with.

[philipas]

To be frank-I can`t aswer you the way I want-cuz this is football forum and I`ll probably get banned because of my words. I have personal and family reasons for being involved in whole NS story. But, my main beliefs are based on my own expirience-I was involved in recent wars-although it`s not best thing to remember(I was very young), I`m still proud for being given a chance to defend my country. If you wish I can give u my mail and discuss of it in private. And, being skin is what I am-I`m skin for about 12 years. But that doesn`t made me go to wrong direction-I worked very hard my whole life and now I have a good job that I`m satisfied with.

Fair enough, it sounds like you've had a rough past. What about if we go to the 'away from soccer thread'...and if you give me your personal email others may abuse it..
it's up to you and it's ok if you can't and even if you don't want to talk about this particular question that i've put to you. It would be interesting to hear your life story as well.
Whatever you like...i don't mind and thanks...

[Fener_05]

This is way too off topic. If you too want to chat, do it somewhere else please.
Somewhere like MSN or PM each other.
Thank you.

[Fener_05]

Hello Aryan...how are you? Have you seen the film romper stomper??
I think fenerbahce means fener - from Phanari which means lighthouse in greek and fener is the ol'greek area of istanbul, while bahce means garden
So it's lighthouse gardens, perhaps...
Yeah your right.
Fener= Lighthouse
Bahce= Garden

There was once a lighthouse in a garden....

[Refeto]

Thank you guys for changing the subject, it was way off-topic :D
Lets get back to our subject from now on!!!

[SiN]

i kno i was gonna tell them to move on..but i couldint be bothered..they were talkin about sum serious shit... :rolling:

[philipas]

You're right I shouldn't have brought this up in this thread, but I wanted to talk to Aryan who was in here after I answered his question on the meaning of Fenerbahce....what's the history of the club by the way?? and I suppose they're on the European side of the Bosphorus....Istanbul is a magic city!!!

[SiN]

You're right I shouldn't have brought this up in this thread, but I wanted to talk to Aryan who was in here after I answered his question on the meaning of Fenerbahce....what's the history of the club by the way?? and I suppose they're on the European side of the Bosphorus....Istanbul is a magic city!!!

thts ok mate... :D
i am not sure of the history mayb Refeto or Fener 05 can help u out...LoL they are loyal supporters hehe

[Refeto]

You're right I shouldn't have brought this up in this thread, but I wanted to talk to Aryan who was in here after I answered his question on the meaning of Fenerbahce....what's the history of the club by the way?? and I suppose they're on the European side of the Bosphorus....Istanbul is a magic city!!!

Fenerbahce is a Turkish football club from Istanbul. Its colours are yellow and navy blue. It plays on its Sukru Saracoglu Stadyumu that has a seating capacity of 52,000.

Fenerbahce was founded in 1907(2007 is the 100th year anniversiary) in the district of Kadikoy in Asian side of Istanbul. The founders were Nurizade Ziya Songulen (the first president), Osmanli Bank employee Mr. Ayetullah and Naval School student Necip Okaner, together with Hasan Sami Kocameme and Asaf Baspinar known as "Hintli". They met at the Besbiyik Street in Moda, in the basement of house number 3.

Fenerbahce's activities had to be conducted in secrecy until a change of Ottoman legislation in 1908, after which the club was officially registered.

The first football team joined the Istanbul League in 1909. The new team of the 1912-1913 season won the championship for the first time, and without a single defeat at that.

Fenerbahce Honours, Trophies & Awards
Turkish football league was officialy started in 1959 as a national competition. Fenerbahce was the first club to win the Turkey's national football league now its called SuperLig. Fenerbahce has won the SuperLig 16 times.

1959
1960-1961
1963-1964
1964-1965
1967-1968
1969-1970
1973-1974
1974-1975
1977-1978
1982-1983
1984-1985
1988-1989
1995-1996
2000-2001
2003-2004
2004-2005

[SiN]

see? i told u he can explain it...nice work refeto hehe :D

[aten2]

. Fenerbahce has won the SuperLig 16 times.

1959
1960-1961
1963-1964
1964-1965
1967-1968
1969-1970
1973-1974
1974-1975
1977-1978
1982-1983
1984-1985
1988-1989
1995-1996
2000-2001
2003-2004
2004-2005

i kno :16>15 :rolling:

[Miroglu]

I don't care, Fenerbahçe is just getting bigger with their hate,..

being hated is the fatal fact of being the biggest :rolling:

[Refeto]

I don't care, Fenerbahçe is just getting bigger with their hate,..

being hated is the fatal fact of being the biggest :rolling:
Nicely said Miroglu! :rolling:

[Fener_05]

Exactly! :)

[Aryan]

I don't care, Fenerbahçe is just getting bigger with their hate,..

being hated is the fatal fact of being the biggest :rolling:
Good one. :o

[SiN]

i dont hate Fener...i liv to support turkish football so it can grow stronger and with confiedence... ;) :D

[aten2]

i dont hate Fener...i liv to support turkish football so it can grow stronger and with confiedence... ;) :D


u like gs and you dont hate fenerbahce...lol :p

[Refeto]

yeah aten, SIN is nice GS fan. He doesnt like FB but he doesnt hate! There is a big difference.

[aten2]

yeah aten, SIN is nice GS fan. He doesnt like FB but he doesnt hate! There is a big difference.


i understand...and i congratulate he on his thinkin

[SiN]

thanks i believe in equal oppurtunity for both teams and all teams in turkey to grow strong and show the rest of the world what we are really are capable of...

[Fener_05]

Well said, now thats a true gala fan, SiN.

[SiN]

Well said, now thats a true gala fan, SiN.

LoL cheers...i try to do my best...:D :D

[Bosanac]

I've been looking around in the forums, listening ppl and reading newspapers about Fenerbahce, Galatasaray and Besiktas. All I see is hate to Fenerbahce. What did Fenerbahce did to you? I see this as a jealouisy, nothing else. I mean Fenerbahce is getting bigger and bigger everyday. Especially Galatasaray trying to organize this.

Why do i say Galatasaray is trying to that? Here are some reasons. Hurriyet is one of the most biggest newspaper in Turkey, right? But through the SuperLig, we saw Fenerbahce beating certain team 7-0 and newspapers says Fenerbahce fans left the stadium sad. Later on Galatasaray plays with the same team and the score is 2-2 but the article's headline is "Galatasaray played superbly". Similar thing Fenerbahce beats another team 6-0 this season and the headline is "Buldular Garibani" which means "They found the poor"(not to mention we beat GS 6-0 as well). but later on Galatasaray beats the same team 1-0 with penalty(which has nothing to do with penalty) and the headline is "Hagi's superb tactic". And at the end of the season Galatasaray president telld media when we beat them 1-0 and won the SuperLig, he says"See Fenerbahce can win without the refree help. If there was no "refree mistakes" we could've win the championship by a big point gap" RIIIIIIIIIIGHT! YOU COULD...

All they do is trying to screw up Fenerbahce. After the game against Manshester United everbody is saying Fenerbahce recived 3 goals from a 19 years old blah blah…They were saying Sakaryaspor’s whole budget is equal to Fenerbahce’s couple players trasfer fee. That 19 years old Rooney’s transfer fee is 70 million dolar which is close to Fenerbahce’s budget which is 100 millon. But this is not even the trasfer budget of Fenebahce. The comments of the newspapers are very idiotic if you think about it that way. Galatasaray became champions 4 times in row and at the end they got UEFA cup. That’s what Fenerbahce is trying to do. We try, we try, we try, and finally get to the point, we have that experience. Fenerbahce is not the old Fenerbahce anymore. PUT THAT IN YOUR HEAD!! We are not looking for a one time UEFA cup final and just do nothing after that and also talk abou it next 100 years that saying “ we got the cup in Europe once, what did you do?”. We’re putting a system that will last looooong time. Aziz Yildirim and his crew said we will have a succes in the European Cups by 2007-2008 and slowly everything is getting there.

DON’T be scared!. Your player Ribery was about to leave because you couldn’t pay his money. Good luck to Galatasaray, with that kind of system. If I was GS fan, I would be crying, because of their board’s working sytem like I used to cry before for ours. Instead talking about Fenerbahce, talk about your team to make it better. Otherwise it will be very hard to catch Fenerbahce very soon.

Even though Daum makes mistakes, Im part of the Fenerbahce family and Republic of Fenerbahce ;) SO I SAY HEP DESTEK, TAM DESTEK(Always Support, Full Support).....If we brake his confidence, his gonna keep make mistakes. He needs our support to be succesful!

PS: DO NOT WRITE INSULTING MESSAGES, THIS IS A EARLY WARNING!

I wrote a post some time ago kind of similar, stepping on exact same point. I come from footballderbies.com, a forum that has lots and lots of Galatasaray fans, and I'm the only Fenerbahce fan. I had experienced a 'Fenerbahce Hate' from all of the Galatasaray fans. Here's the link, if you have time, read the discussion that has turned into a war between the turkish rivals fans.
Link: http://www.footballderbies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=378

[SiN]

welcome to sfn!!

[Bosanac]

Hey thank you. That's a friendly attitude from a GS fan. I'm impressed. :-)

[ErGie]

Your a GUN!!! hahahahah in amongst 20 odd people your the only one who made sense......Im impressed!!!!

Them Gala fans didnt know what to say, and the resaon why is that there club is in turmoil!!!

When that happens you only bring up the past the glory days!!!!

Good on you bro!!

:fireball:

[SiN]

Hey thank you. That's a friendly attitude from a GS fan. I'm impressed. :-)

no problem my friend...

[Bosanac]

Your a GUN!!! hahahahah in amongst 20 odd people your the only one who made sense......Im impressed!!!!

Them Gala fans didnt know what to say, and the resaon why is that there club is in turmoil!!!

When that happens you only bring up the past the glory days!!!!

Good on you bro!!

:fireball:


Thanks :thumbsup:

[yeko]

you know why there is so many Fenerbahce Hate my friends??

because the other teams are jealous.

they have nothing to talk about than Fenerbahce's great singings, stadium, budget, chairman, team...

they buy ragıp while we buy appiah from Juve.

they buy volkan while we buy anelka.

they beg for help from everybody.

they are in a very bad position but instead of accepting that fact they always try to make Fenerbahçe fall down.

but they forget that we are FENERBAHCE REPUCLIC.

nobody can beat us!!!!!

i am sure that you will keep talking about your Uefa Cup and Super Cup when you are 60 years old and also Fenerbahce's 0 points once.

but it will be so hard to catch us in 5 years and you will see that.

now cry for 6alatasaray. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: