Greece-Brazil

[OCFP]

Were only 4 days away and I can't wait...


Kafu, Roberto Carlos, and Ronaldo are out for Brazil...

It's going to be very tough and I feel if we get out of the first 15 minutes without giving up a goal well be fine.

[ARBANITAI]

Easy win for Brasil, not because i like to say it but because they are super team and are too far away from europeans in soccer, anyway im sure Greece wouldnt let them that easy and show their best against brasil.. :thumbsup:

[RaulMadrid7]

You said Kafu, Roberto Carlos and Ronaldo?

Actually it's Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Dida, Robinho, Roque Junior and many more.

I am looking forward for that game and many more in the FIFA Confederation Cup.

[OCFP]

You said Kafu, Roberto Carlos and Ronaldo?

Actually it's Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Dida, Robinho, Roque Junior and many more.

I am looking forward for that game and many more in the FIFA Confederation Cup.

I was watching soccer news last night and they were all there excet the ones I named.

[philipas]

I hate to say it, but i think Greece are going to get whipped by Brazil, even with all their great players out....I hope they don't, but the mighty Brazil has no shortage of great players... Some people say even if you pick unknowns on copa cabana beach to form a team, they could take on proffesional teams...
we'll see...we all know greece is full of surprises...although disappointments seem to be the play of the day lately....
GO HELLAS!

[SiN]

lol i cant wait to see this match...lets see how the so called European Champions match up to the might World Champions...if u are serioulsy the best team in europe lets see u beat the best team in the World...good luck...ull need it...lol

[philipas]

lol i cant wait to see this match...lets see how the so called European Champions match up to the might World Champions...if u are serioulsy the best team in europe lets see u beat the best team in the World...good luck...ull need it...lol

Who will you be supporting?....and please they are not 'so-called' THEY ARE...you know what.

[OCFP]

lol i cant wait to see this match...lets see how the so called European Champions match up to the might World Champions...if u are serioulsy the best team in europe lets see u beat the best team in the World...good luck...ull need it...lol

NO NEED FOR THIS

[SiN]

Who will you be supporting?....and please they are not 'so-called' THEY ARE...you know what.

LoL TURKIYE!!!!

[SiN]

no Need For This

Yes There Is And U Know It St00ge

[PAO_HELLAS]

Good news are that Zagorakis and Karagounis are free for their club teams and they joined the NT today :).

I fear this game with Brazil, not because Greece is a very low quality team compared to Brazil as Philipas says, but becaus the mentality of our players is very bad (after the Ukraine fluke). I saw on TV their faces at training -they were ready to cry... On the other side, the pressure is going to be on Brazil, after their lose to Argentina and they will want to prove their power. Greece has nothing to lose and we will have NO STRESS, like we have in WC qualifies.

[OCFP]

LoL TURKIYE!!!!


Turkey isnt in it moran

[OCFP]

Yes There Is And U Know It St00ge


?????????????

[SiN]

Turkey isnt in it moran
thts wat u call it...

[MegaPrime]

I hate to say it, but i think Greece are going to get whipped by Brazil, even with all their great players out....I hope they don't, but the mighty Brazil has no shortage of great players... Some people say even if you pick unknowns on copa cabana beach to form a team, they could take on proffesional teams...
we'll see...we all know greece is full of surprises...although disappointments seem to be the play of the day lately....
GO HELLAS!

If Greece plays the way they did during EURO 2004 then don't be suprised if Brazil loses the opening match.

Mentally they have to start fresh and I know King Otto will have a plan to defeat Brazil.

[Gennadios]

Guys, calm down. I doubt the game will be a blow-out or anything.

[OCFP]

Dont forget Greece will have home field advantage in Germany compared to every team in the tournament except Germany.

[philipas]

Good news are that Zagorakis and Karagounis are free for their club teams and they joined the NT today :).

I fear this game with Brazil, not because Greece is a very low quality team compared to Brazil as Philipas says, but becaus the mentality of our players is very bad (after the Ukraine fluke). I saw on TV their faces at training -they were ready to cry... On the other side, the pressure is going to be on Brazil, after their lose to Argentina and they will want to prove their power. Greece has nothing to lose and we will have NO STRESS, like we have in WC qualifies.

I didn't say they are a low quality team :silly:
I just said, and really this goes without saying, is that Brazil are an extremely high quality team...
Wouldn't you agree???

[Refeto]

Is there any channel showing the game in US? Anybody knows about this? and what is the exact date for it?

[Turkhooligan]

Greece-Brazil.. :D ..What are they thinking?? Defence with all the footballers?? :shocked:

[Refeto]

Turkey isnt in it moran
Lets not call others names!

and Greece wasnt in last year so as Germany while Turkey and France was in. France was first and Turkey was 3rd! Now this year is your turn to represent Europe with Germany!

[PAO_HELLAS]

OCFP this kind of words are not neccesary. This forum is not suitable for this kind of talk.

[SiN]

OCFP this kind of words are not neccesary. This forum is not suitable for this kind of talk.
yerp i think i was the target of some unneccesary provoking...lol...lets calm down..and talk football... :thumbsup:

[OCFP]

yerp i think i was the target of some unneccesary provoking...lol...lets calm down..and talk football... :thumbsup:


OK sorry Sin and Pao ill calm it down.

And yeah they are showing the game in the US. I know for a fact in NY and Chicago but I dont know about anywhere else.

[OCFP]

If you can read Greek this has when all the games are and every teams roster just click the country.. http://www.supersport.gr/default.asp?aid=101602

[OCFP]

Se dio meres sti Germania ferte mas ferte mas ti Brazilia.

Translation( in 2 days in Germany bring us bring us Brazil)

[PAO_HELLAS]

I don't know if they will show the game in the US, but if you find someone with satellite receiver the games will be broadcasted by Greek channel ERT sat. I know that Turkish TRT will broadcast them too. Sorry I can't help more.

[OCFP]

I don't know if they will show the game in the US, but if you find someone with satellite receiver the games will be broadcasted by Greek channel ERT sat. I know that Turkish TRT will broadcast them too. Sorry I can't help more.

They are showing it. It costs 20 bucks to watch but whatever its worth it.

[SiN]

OK sorry Sin and Pao ill calm it down.

And yeah they are showing the game in the US. I know for a fact in NY and Chicago but I dont know about anywhere else.

thanks mate... :ronaldo:

[Refeto]

FOX Sports in US will only show Brazil-Mexico game this week and nothing else!

[SiN]

FOX Sports in US will only show Brazil-Mexico game this week and nothing else!

i am not sure about fox sports here in australia ill have to check aswell!

[OCFP]

I cant wait 1 full day away!!!!!

Anyone know whos not playing for greece tom. (except for Dellas).

[OCFP]

HAHAHAH look at this shirt

http://www.sportarena.gr/proddetail.asp?prod=728496

[OCFP]

i am not sure about fox sports here in australia ill have to check aswell!

I love that you have rivaldo in your pictures.

[wolverine]

FOX Sports in US will only show Brazil-Mexico game this week and nothing else!

Telemundo is showing Mexico-Japan tomorrow.

Brazil-Greece would be a cake walk for Brazil unless they decide to xperiment drastically.

[OCFP]

Telemundo is showing Mexico-Japan tomorrow.

Brazil-Greece would be a cake walk for Brazil unless they decide to xperiment drastically.

All these wierd spanish channels show all the games in the US. And Wolverine go post this in another forum. We will talk after tom about this cake walk.

[PAO_HELLAS]

Telemundo is showing Mexico-Japan tomorrow.

Brazil-Greece would be a cake walk for Brazil unless they decide to xperiment drastically.

I guess you were one of the people were saying that Greece will leave Euro 2004 with 0 points.

[OCFP]

2:30 AM in NY and I cant sleep...
12 hours away
we have to prove to the world something they said last year to be luck...

I CANT WAIT

[PAO_HELLAS]

I heard they are going to be about 20.000 Greeks in the stadium.

And hopefully most of Germans will supporting us because of Rehaggel :).

[Aryan]

I can`t tell about the result, but what I know is that Greek supporters are crazy and will teach Brazillians lesson in supporting.

[ARBANITAI]

I heard they are going to be about 20.000 Greeks in the stadium.

And hopefully most of Germans will supporting us because of Rehaggel :).

Hmm I would like to see Brazil vs Greece and what time does the game play..?

[Aryan]

Hmm I would like to see Brazil vs Greece and what time does the game play..?
Tonight 20:45 middle European time.

[ARBANITAI]

Tonight 20:45 middle European time.

ok thanx.. :cap:

[SiN]

thanks i wantd to find out wen it is aswell

[Fener_05]

If you live in the UK the match will be live on Channal 5.
Just to let people know.:D

[OCFP]

Lets get cup crazy

[Refeto]

First half ended just now 1-0 to Brazil and hooooly shit what a goal Adriano scored man...

[Fener_05]

What a game, Brazil plays the best football.
What a goal too.

[Refeto]

47 seconds into second half and its 2-0

[Fener_05]

Another great play their by Brazil. Another good goal. :D

[Refeto]

hooly shit great free-kick...3-0

End the game finished 3-0...

[philipas]

geez...you guys are quick....
what can I say? the mighty Brazil...and like I thought what was going to happen - Greece got done!!
That first goal though, what the **ck...brilliance...

[Refeto]

geez...you guys are quick....
what can I say? the mighty Brazil...and like I thought what was going to happen - Greece got done!!
That first goal though, what the **ck...brilliance...
I know man, what the ***k was that? I didnt expect him to shoot at all. Hey what do you think about the Brazil's 4th goal but the refree said offsite. What I dont get is, when the pass served he wasnt offsite but one of the Brazilian player tried to shoot with his head and it just touched him then the other Brazilian scored the goal. Wouldnt be passive offsite? Because he is not passing the ball to another, he just trying to score but it just touches him. I always get confused about this..

And there was this offsite postion for Greece, I couldnt believe Greece miss that chance even though it was offsite. I was shocked!

[alb_warrior]

brasil could have scored 4-5 more goals if they wanted but they were just playing around. i watched the game entertaining....greece got beat even when the brasil coach took out the three best players - kaka, adriano, ronaldhinio.....also cafu, carlos was missing...brasil is going to take the next world cup for suree

[Refeto]

brasil could have scored 4-5 more goals if they wanted but they were just playing around. i watched the game entertaining....greece got beat even when the brasil coach took out the three best players - kaka, adriano, ronaldhinio.....also cafu, carlos was missing...brasil is going to take the next world cup for suree
Not that much but yeah they played very good! To be honest I was expecting Greece to give a hard time to Brazil in the defence but didnt happen!

[Ivan7637]

geez...you guys are quick....
what can I say? the mighty Brazil...and like I thought what was going to happen - Greece got done!!
That first goal though, what the **ck...brilliance...

That's Right! Adriano is King! Brilliant is a good way to describe that goal!;) :silly:

[plato-ny]

What can one say? Brazil are the best team in the world.

Now, Greece has to pick up at least 4 points against Japan and Mexico...

[poutismalakas]

What can one say? Brazil are the best team in the world.

Now, Greece has to pick up at least 4 points against Japan and Mexico...
what do you expect that is ALL brazilians do all day long JUST play soccer SO they better be the best in the world at it! :fangs:

I am just disenchanted after what happened last week, I am seriously worried about Greece's chances to qualifying for the World Cup!!

[plato-ny]

what do you expect that is ALL brazilians do all day long JUST play soccer SO they better be the best in the world at it! :fangs:

I am just disenchanted after what happened last week, I am seriously worried about Greece's chances to qualifying for the World Cup!!

The Confederations Cup is just an exhibition tournament so its premature to worry...

[plato-ny]

Brazil trounces Greece 3-0

LEIPZIG, Germany (AP) -- World Cup-holder Brazil gave European champion Greece a lesson in finishing in a 3-0 victory at the Confederations Cup on Thursday.

It was a night the upstart team that beat the European heavyweights a year ago couldn't master the biggest team of all as Adriano, Robinho and Juninho Pernambucano scored high quality goals before 42,506 fans in Leipzig.




"This Confederations Cup feels like the World Cup and it's good to play well here," said Brazil coach Carlos Alberto Parreira, whose team is close to qualifying for next year's World Cup in Germany. "It's important that we build to the final here. We felt the environment of the World Cup and it's good for the players to feel this.

"We had young players and I thought they performed well and gave us a lot of confidence for the future."

For the Greeks and coach Otto Rehhagel, it was a reminder they are a long way from doing well at Germany 2006. After losing to Ukraine a week ago they may not even qualify.

"The World Cup is far away for us and I have some problems to solve," said the German whose team is behind Ukraine and Turkey in its qualifying group.

"We don't have many opportunities to play Brazil and the challenge was something special. We had expectations but technically they were better than us."

Rehhagel fielded eight of the starting lineup that beat host Portugal in the Euro 2004 final in Lisbon almost a year ago, while a strong Brazilian side missed Cafu, Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos, who didn't make the trip to Germany.

The rival champions had plenty of support in the 44,000-capacity Centralstadium although there were far more Greeks than Brazilians. The ground has been built for next year's World Cup, constructed inside the cavernous old 100,000-seat stadium, yet leaving some of the former structure intact.

Greece tried to surprise the Brazilian defense from the kickoff with a long ball, and Sotirios Kyrgiakos should have put Rehhagel's team ahead with less than two minutes on the clock. He rose unchallenged to meet a free kick but glanced well wide of goal.

After that scare, the star-studded Brazilians set about trying to unravel the well organized Greek defense with Ronaldinho, Kaka, Ze Roberto, Adriano and Robinho all weaving patterns outside the penalty area without breaking through.

Antonis Nikopolidis pushed away a shot from Robinho and turned Kaka's drive for a corner before he was beaten by Adriano's stunner four minutes before halftime.

A well-timed through ball by Kaka put Adriano in sight of goal. Kyrgiakos did well to get in a tackle but the powerfully built Inter Milan striker won the ball back. There seemed no real danger but Adriano made room for himself by pushing the ball to his left and than unleashed a powerful left-footer that flew past the 'keeper and inside his near post.

The European champion almost hit back immediately when rightback Giourkas Seitaridis burst down the sideline only for Angelos Charisteas to turn his shot wide of the near post.

The second half was less than a minute old before Brazil went further ahead.

Gilberto broke down the left and, with three Greek defenders standing off him, he had time to cross to the far post. An unmarked Robinho did well from a tight angle to turn the ball into the net.

Parreira made three substitutions, and one of the replacements made it 3-0 with nine minutes to go.

Kyrgiakos was shown the yellow card for a needless trip on another substitute, Ricardo Oliveira, and Juninho stroked a 25-meter free kick inside the top left hand corner with the 'keeper making no effort to stop it.



Americas triumph as Olympus spurns Greek heroes



THE DAY REPLAYED - It was a day of celebration in the Americas. And especially pleasing to be able to claim roots in Sao Paulo, from where both Budweiser Man of the Match winners on the second day of the FIFA Confederations Cup were born. Robinho, a potential star of the biggest stage in the world in 12 months time, and Zinha, a less-heralded fellow citizen from that Brazilian city and now an artist wearing Mexican colours, followed on in the same dynamic style set by the match-winning performers of Argentina and Germany the day before.

But for Greece it was the time to reflect that the Gods who granted them the privilege of a sublime triumph in Europe 12 months previously, have now probably decided they are no longer worthy of their blessings. Otto Rehhagel, the veteran German coach enjoying an unexpected taste of celebrity status near the closing chapters of his career, had greeted that surprise victory in Portugal by claiming: “Bring on Brazil”.

A 3-0 defeat in Leipzig will have him reflecting on the wisdom of that boast. The Greeks had established a reputation for defensive obstinacy but for their inspirational manager, back in the land of his fathers, it was a painful sight as his grand design all fell apart.

The superpowers who were expected to dominate in Germany have flexed their muscles in an impressive fashion so far and the tournament has found its stride straight away. Argentina, Germany and now Brazil are all off to winning starts and Mexico as well. The less-celebrated teams need not necessarily be thinking that this is a forlorn mission just yet and Japan can count themselves unfortunate to lose out to two eye-catching goals in Hanover. Only Greece have been badly beaten so far.

But the overriding impression from the first Group B action was of the new generation whose destiny has been to inherit those famous yellow jerseys which is a great honour but also the heaviest of burdens to carry...so many shining stars have been there before you. And in Adriano, Robinho, Kaka, - oh, and we shouldn’t forget the FIFA World Player of the Year 2004, Ronaldinho, as well - they have a new generation equipped to wear the mantle with some ease and punch. The warning for the other seven teams out here and the 31 who will try to wrestle the FIFA World Cup™ away from them in twelve months time was clear for all to see.

No Ronaldo, Cafu or Roberto Carlos – all resting after a long season – but no matter. Carlos Alberto Parreira has other aces up his sleeve and fantastic talent to compensate for the absence of those established Brazilian icons. In midfield there is grace, strength, guile and mesmeric footwork in the shape of Kaka and Ronaldinho. In attack who is to say that Ronaldo will still be first choice when the world champions return to Germany to defend their crown in 2006?

It seems clear even at this early stage that an awful lot of newspaper pages will be sacrificed in the names of Adriano and Robinho in 12 months time. Adriano is already well known to European audiences through the awesome power he can summon at the head of the Inter-Milan attack.

He is no stranger to the art of clubbing dramatic goals and did not earn the title of most valued player at the Copa America 2004 for nothing. In the Zentralstadion came further confirmation that here is a man of the highest class.

Sotirios Kyrgiakos, Greece’s number five, did not do a great deal wrong. In fact he made a splendid recovery tackle after initially finding that Adriano had got in behind him. The problem was that even after the challenge Adriano was still in possession. And the ball was nestling on that ferocious left foot. One swing of the boot was enough to make the ball disappear from sight in a blur as it ripped a stunning path inside the right-hand post. Certainly Antonios Nikopolidis could not have seen it as he groped at thin air and the net bulged behind him. Stunning.

Before then Robinho had strutted his stuff and drawn gasps of appreciation from the crowd. There is nowhere near as much of him as there is of Adriano, a lightweight at 60 kg. But the 21-year-old consistently worked the goalkeeper hard and had his markers chasing shadows.

Not for nothing is he being compared to the legendary Garrincha and one exceptional piece of work around the penalty deserved a goal which finally arrived for him early in the second half after Gilberto had discovered a generous amount of room to reward his forward advance. Later the substitute Juninho added the coup de grace with an imperious free-kick.

In Hanover it was a Mexican victory with a strong Brazilian flavour. Zinha had been persuaded by the national coach Ricardo Lavolpe to take out Mexican citizenship and it was his goal that took them onto a level footing with Japan in Hanover after the Asian champions - the first team to qualify for Germany 2006 - had taken the lead through Atsushi Yanagisawa’s early strike.

Drawing inspiration that would certainly not have been out of place 260 km south in the Leipzig stadium, Zinha conjured a stunning equaliser from outside the penalty area, swerving the ball away from Yoshikatsu Kawaguchi. Mexican adventure was further rewarded later on when the aerial ability of Jose Fonseca bought them a precious three points. It was a magnificently-angled header that earned the spoils proving that you don’t necessarily have to be from Brazil to score memorable goals. But it certainly helps.

[Savicevic]

Somehow im not suprised that turks were posting alot when brazil won, it made them feel like they won, when really they didnt :p


All i can say. Greece at least u avoided a few extra goals, nice d for the most part. :thumbsup:

[lastdon]

i like how some people in here act
just because greece won the euro they expect them to win everything

Hmm Yum REMEMBER FRANCE world cup in Korea?
ring a bell.. defending champs as well..

the greek defence broke down
we are missing key players on the defence dellas and kapsis.

its alright though 3-0 it could of been worse but greece did defend at times
rhonolidhno couldn't even get through :)

anyway ..

kinda of disappointed in the ref at times.. during corners and free kicks the black guy on defence for brazil was hugging Charisteas and holding him like no tomorrow..
they showed it over and over here.. and on reply..

but if it was greece doing that to a brazilian or big name star forgetabout it.

[OCFP]

i like how some people in here act
just because greece won the euro they expect them to win everything

Hmm Yum REMEMBER FRANCE world cup in Korea?
ring a bell.. defending champs as well..

the greek defence broke down
we are missing key players on the defence dellas and kapsis.

its alright though 3-0 it could of been worse but greece did defend at times
rhonolidhno couldn't even get through :)

anyway ..

kinda of disappointed in the ref at times.. during corners and free kicks the black guy on defence for brazil was hugging Charisteas and holding him like no tomorrow..
they showed it over and over here.. and on reply..

but if it was greece doing that to a brazilian or big name star forgetabout it.


very good point about holding the shirt.. Whatever we didn't play bad. The 1st and 3rd goals were both uncatchable balls. The second goal was from sloppy play.. Whatever we'll see Brazil in the final after we take care of business starting Sunday against the JAPS..

[MegaPrime]

I thought we came out strong in the first half and shut them down. The first goal was a powerful shot from way out and I don't really blame our defence or Nikopolidis although some say he should have had his post covered better. Nonetheless they should have continued to play the way they did until the end of the game.

Instead, they come out flat at the start of the 2nd half and get scored on right away. Then they just gave up the rest of the way.

It was very dissapointing to see that the European Champions gave up so easily and really defeated themselves in the 2nd.

[MegaPrime]

Even though we lost the knowledge and data gained from today can be vital in making us a much stronger team.

First off, we should have never given up and become so demoralized the way we did.

Second, brazil is a high pressure team, they like to press up field, pressure the ball carrier. They can accomplish this easily because they are extremely fast, quick, and they hustle. We were to slow in everything we did. Too slow in passing, took to long in dribbling and holding on to the ball, and passes themselves were too slow. This allowed the brazilians to recover quickly defense.

In order to break this style you have to fight fire with fire. If they pressure that far up field as soon as we gain possession we have to quickly move the ball up field with quick passes leaving their midfielders trapped in our own end. And this is not easy to do.

Bottom line, if we don't learn from these mistakes and don't make some noise in this tournament then we were a one hit wonder in 2004. Not a fluke because it wasn't, but a one time deal we played at our best and won it all.

[philipas]

Brazil are a league above most teams and they proved it against Greece. They could of scored more and the off-side rule affected both teams...
Greece played well in the first half, but after that goal by Adriano i knew it was curtains...they showed a bit of lethargy in the second half as well.

For Brazil, playing Greece was like going for a walk in the park... :yawn:

[MegaPrime]

Brazil are a league above most teams and they proved it against Greece. They could of scored more and the off-side rule affected both teams...
Greece played well in the first half, but after that goal by Adriano i knew it was curtains...they showed a bit of lethargy in the second half as well.

For Brazil, playing Greece was like going for a walk in the park... :yawn:

You give them too much credit, Greece defeated themselves today.

[Refeto]

Somehow im not suprised that turks were posting alot when brazil won, it made them feel like they won, when really they didnt :p
what the heck you are talking about man? I would post even Greece won too...very unnecessary comment! I was just watching the game while I was on the computer, thats why I thought I would give live update! That was it...
Dont make me start talking!

[SiN]

the point is Greece got outplayd in every aspect..even thier controversial defence crumbled against the might of the brazilians...i dont think u can give turkey shit for losing against brazil in 2002 wen u just got hammerd 3 goals to nil..at least we scord a few and had many more chances than u...also wen we playd them in the Confeds Cup we put on a very good show...now we know that luck doesint get u far in the game of football...at times greece playd very well...they playd constructlivly but it didint hold up...sowie guys thats just the way it is...

i am sure uz will rise up and come out firing in ur next match..good luck!!

[PAO_HELLAS]

I was satisfied with our performance in most of the game. In the late first half, our performance was not so good. Brazil proved their superiority as a team. The goal of Adriano was incredible. Did you saw the face of Nikopolidis? :ronaldo: .

Well, I saw again what I have said in other games too, that our national team needs more training in finishing. We must improve this as we have done with set pieces. Brazil turned their 3 good chances into goals something we can't do easily. If the chance of Charisteas was a goal things could be different in the continue.

I also liked the Greek presence at the stadium yesterday.

All the team has to do now, is give their best and win the 2 remaining games with Japan and Mexico so we qualify.

[philipas]

I was satisfied with our performance in most of the game. In the late first half, our performance was not so good. Brazil proved their superiority as a team. The goal of Adriano was incredible. Did you saw the face of Nikopolidis? :ronaldo: .

Well, I saw again what I have said in other games too, that our national team needs more training in finishing. We must improve this as we have done with set pieces. Brazil turned their 3 good chances into goals something we can't do easily. If the chance of Charisteas was a goal things could be different in the continue.

I also liked the Greek presence at the stadium yesterday.

All the team has to do now, is give their best and win the 2 remaining games with Japan and Mexico so we qualify.


I agree with most points, but i don't think Charisteas is playing good enough and there is no killer instinct in front of goals...
Japan and Mexico won't be easy either...Greece needs to do better...they need better forwards...

[ARBANITAI]

Brazil had the game in their hands they simply show who they are first the long shoot from adriano and the goalkeeper only looked at it..
the second goal too and the 3rd from the free kick was amazing they show their amazing tricks i see it more as they was practice for their biggest opponent derby match between Argentina and Brazil...

cheerz

[ros]

there is no question that brazil outplayed us for the most part of the game. I did see some glimpses of what we could do but the urgency that was displayed at the euros was lacking. I hope its been a lesson to the greek players that we aren't quite at the level yet where we can play half heartedly and get a result especially against a brazil outfit. Dont forget that winning the euro was a positive start for greek inernational football, but we have a long way to go, today was just another lesson that we will learn from!!

[PAO_HELLAS]

I agree with most points, but i don't think Charisteas is playing good enough and there is no killer instinct in front of goals...
Japan and Mexico won't be easy either...Greece needs to do better...they need better forwards...

What do you think of Papadopoulos' performance? In his first matches with the national team he was bad. The stress was visible. But I think he was better yesterday.

[Turkhooligan]

:eek: 3-0 :eek: Zuluhebehabahioaahahahahahahahahanihahahahazuuhahahaha..Congrats! :dead:

[PAO_HELLAS]

:eek: 3-0 :eek: Zuluhebehabahioaahahahahahahahahanihahahahazuuhahahaha..Congrats! :dead:
What are you trying to say :D ?

[OCFP]

What do you think of Papadopoulos' performance? In his first matches with the national team he was bad. The stress was visible. But I think he was better yesterday.

He played ok and I believed should have started over Vryza...

We havent scored in over 3 matches...

Somthing got to be down.

[lastdon]

hmm

Did anyone forget ball possession was 50-50?
being outplayed would of been worse.

the Greek Defence fell apart. They didn't seem organized.

As for Charisteas.....................

How can he play? When he has a brazillian player hugging him like there is no tomorrow.. unless that brazillian just wanted to get a lil touch from charisteas..

:ronaldo:

[MegaPrime]

the point is Greece got outplayd in every aspect..even thier controversial defence crumbled against the might of the brazilians...i dont think u can give turkey shit for losing against brazil in 2002 wen u just got hammerd 3 goals to nil..at least we scord a few and had many more chances than u...also wen we playd them in the Confeds Cup we put on a very good show...now we know that luck doesint get u far in the game of football...at times greece playd very well...they playd constructlivly but it didint hold up...sowie guys thats just the way it is...

i am sure uz will rise up and come out firing in ur next match..good luck!!

This thread isn't about turkey VS brazil in 2002. Nobody asked and nobody cares. If you want to make a comparison between the two countries then make this one.

Greece has won a EURO Cup and Turkey has not won any international tournament to date.

[plato-ny]

Relax, dude. This is just an exhibition tournament. Its a cup winners festival. It was exciting for Greece, as the Euro champ, to play against Brazil, the world champ, in the FIFA Cup, even though we lost 3-0.

Since you're bringing it up for no reason other than to provoke, Turkey never competed in the FIFA Cup as a CUP WINNER and when they played against Brazil to a 2-2 tie, Brazil had LOST to Cameroon (ranked 18th at the time) 1-0 in the same division.

The 2-2 is impressive against Brazil and Cameroon's defeat against them was amazing. But, my point is, this is an exhibition tournament and its just for show. Australia scored 3 goals against Germany, in Germany, a few days ago and you know they are not a big team. I mean, they are ranked 57th in the world.

[Refeto]

I dont think you should think that way! Greece's last 3 games was all with though teams! Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesnt!

[lastdon]

e , whatever , every team loses and wins.
and some teams have losing streats, and some dont
it's park of the game

imagine if the same team kept winning over and over. it would get kinda of boring
brazil played great game.
very impressive style of football

in my opinion greece played well too, but lost formation.

[philipas]

What do you think of Papadopoulos' performance? In his first matches with the national team he was bad. The stress was visible. But I think he was better yesterday.


I think he made his mark...more than others. If I was going to pick an individual that really stood out it would be Stelios....as in Gianakopoulos...

[ros]

He played ok and I believed should have started over Vryza...

We havent scored in over 3 matches...

Somthing got to be down.


I would have prefered if the score would have been 5-2 utleast we have scored. Rahhagel would have to be a little nervous not a single goal in 270 mins. We've had chances but the style of game we play if we dont improve our strike ratio we are goin to be in trouble. I dont think we should start panicking, we were unlucky against ukraine, and the goals brazil scored would have beaten many defences.

[Panellinios]

our strikers are not game makers. wut i mean is that they are not the type of players who u give the ball to and they make their own game by deaking and dribbling and all that stuff. Charisteas and Vryzas need the ball ready for them to strike it. and that is a HUGE HUGE flaw for us. our defence is one of the best in the world, our halfs are strong, but our forwards got pretty much nothing. Papadopoulos needs to play more often, gain experience, and so does Gekkas. Vryzas has gotten old aswel.

we also have to consider the fact that Dellas is a big absence for us, Kapsis is injured, Seitaridis got injured and sat out the 2nd half, and even Kyrgiakos got hurt. our defence was not at it's full potential neither. we shouldn't only consider the players Brazil were missing.

i know we are not the greatest team in the world, even if we won the EURO, but i don't like the fact that people refuse to give Greece credit.

wut i got out of this game against Brazil was pure entertainment. i got to watch my 2 favorite teams play and i couldn't care less who won or lost. i got to watch Greece vs. Brazil.

the goals Adriano, Robinho and Juninho scored were more than extraordinary and it was not Greece's day. i'm talking about the kind of days that had our team play so organized where they actualy are able to shut down the greats like they did France, Czech Republic and Portugal.

well, on to the next one against Japan. we will be missing Zagorakis since he is off to play for his team Bologna for relegation in the Serie A in Italy. but, we'll do wut we can.

KALI DINAMI!!!

[plato-ny]

Greece hopeful of shaking off injuries for Japan clash



FRANKFURT (AFP) - European champions Greece were optimisic that two key defenders will shake off injuries in time to face Japan in the Confederations Cup.


Giourkas Seitaridis was substituted at half-time of Greece's 3-0 defeat by World Cup holders Brazil on Thursday but he could be fit for Sunday's clash, while Mihalis Kapsis could return to the defence after missing the opening match with a hamstring injury.

"If we can win against Japan it will set up a very special match against Mexico," Greek coach Otto Rehhagel said.

"The Japanese can run for 120 minutes. I know what mental strength they have. They will give us difficulties."

The return of Kapsis would boost a defence weakened by the absence of Greece's defensive pillar of strength, Traianos Dellas, who is not taking part in this eight-team event dubbed the 'mini-World Cup'.

Theo Zagorakis, the team's captain, returned to Italy to play for his club Bologna in their Serie A relegation playoff on Saturday so will not line up against Japan.

Having qualified for the 2006 World Cup last week, Asian champins Japan came back to earth with a 2-1 defeat to Mexico on Thursday in their Group B opener.

Coach Zico was upbeat after the Mexico game, but admitted his team were put under pressure by high crosses into the penalty area -- a weakness sure to be exploited by Greece and their lanky striker Angelos Charisteas.

"We weren't able to neutralise the balls coming at us from the air," Zico said.

"We're going to have to work to correct that for the next game."

In contrast to the Greek squad, the Japanese camp had no injuries to report after the Mexico match.

Zico faces an emotional match against Brazil, the country he represented with such flair in the 1970s and 1980s, in Japan's final group match in Cologne on Wednesday.

While the Asian champions know they will be returning to Germany next year for the World Cup finals, Greece are struggling and trailing behind Ukraine and Turkey in their qualifying group and are hoping to obtain a playoff spot.

PAO Hellas: I like your signature. Even though im an AEK fan, its good your showing PAO cup final appearance in 1971. We must show everybody that Greek soccer is not as bad as everyone thinks it is...

[Refeto]

I would have prefered if the score would have been 5-2 utleast we have scored. Rahhagel would have to be a little nervous not a single goal in 270 mins. We've had chances but the style of game we play if we dont improve our strike ratio we are goin to be in trouble. I dont think we should start panicking, we were unlucky against ukraine, and the goals brazil scored would have beaten many defences.
Isnt it funny? When I said the same things, I got bombared by others. They start to say that everytime Greece looses the Turks shows up! No, I told you guys the same thing before, if you dont improve, you are in big trouble. As same thing happens to Turkey!

[Fener_05]

True say bro.

[SiN]

hmmm wateva u guys think...uz have lost two matches in a row and thats wat it comes down to in the end...

[philipas]

Why are there so many Turks in a Greek thread??
Is it because you love to see us lose or is it because you are still envious of Euro 2004?
Do you see us in your threads being provocative??
Please, show some respect...