View Full Version : Your thoughts on Michael Owen's season at Madrid?
peace786
05-23-2005, 04:01 PM
Personally I think that he has been fantastic, it's been a very good debut for sure, his finishing has been clinical and british strikers are notorious for taking time to settle in in Europe but not Owen. The sad thing is Raul was the stumbling block, had Owen and Ronaldo started (instead of Raul and Ronaldo) earlier on then things could have been different. In no way shape or form is Raul a better striker than Owen, Raul maybe holds the ball better but as a striker he is poor. Raul is slow, an unreliable finisher and allround overrated for me. In any other club in the world Owen would have dispalced Raul, but not at Madrid.
In all honesty Madrid would be the biggest losers if Owen leaves, God knows why Real keep on buing stiker after striker, and then they scratch their heads as to why they dont win any silverware. Real dont deserve to win anything if htey carry on like this - they have 3 strikers, Ronaldo, Owen and the over rated Raul. Adding another one will mean that Owen will have to go (realy Raul should go). Why do Real find the need to buy surplus strikers? You dont win leagues like this im afraid.
Anyway back to Owen - a great season in my opinion - it will be a shame if he leaves.
Rickster
05-23-2005, 04:32 PM
Yes Owen was very gud at madrid, i doubt he will leave cos luxemburgo has found the perfect lineup to fit the three strikers in. owen has played fantastic and scored the goals which were vital to us. he does merit to start every game along with ronaldo n raul. raul is getin his form bak, n he is one of the best forwards tat can play in any attacking positions, his passing n vision to create goals, and his first touch and finishing are excellent, eventhough he isnt the best in all the skills, he is very all rounded which is gud aswell.
so both raul n owen n ronaldo next season are goin to be deadly
ForcaMadrid
05-23-2005, 04:40 PM
I agree with some of your points.
yes, Owen's first season has been very good. Better than Raul's, though I would not say better than Ronaldo's, but maybe more consistent.
Yes, I also do not understand why Real wants another striker (if they really want this). We have three of the best strikers/forwards in the world (I still consider Raul as a great forward just one season off-form). Three maybe already too many. In normal conditions a club would want three good strikers to rotate, but given the egos of the three of them (especially Raul and Ronaldo) I think it is going to be difficult bench an of them.
If Lux can andle this then i would say keep all of them and don't get an new striker. Otherwise one has to go, and despite poor form of Raul, i would say that better sell owen. Owen went through horrible 2 seasons (I think) at Liverpul. What guarantees that the same will not happen at Madrid?
RealMadrilismo
05-23-2005, 06:21 PM
I heard a rumor that Owen might be traded for van Nistelrooy (Manchester United). If it happens it would't be a bad trade, but Owen is great and should stay in Madrid.
Rickster
05-23-2005, 06:39 PM
its a bad trade, first of all v.nistelrooy is playing badly he hasnt scored much since he got injured. v.nistelrooy can only score inside the box meaning that we need to do alot of crosses n currently beckham doesnt hav the chance to do many crosses. also since we already hav 3 top strikers who are playin well together y do we want to rebuild our squad again in that area?
Ronaldo15
05-23-2005, 07:47 PM
:thumbsup: great season by owen, i hope he stays. If not, bring on Cristiano Ronaldo.
peace786
05-23-2005, 08:12 PM
Some very good posts with some very good points, however I still feel that Raul isn't a great striker, a good skilled footballer maybe but nothing more and nothing else. Raul doesnt have the pace nor the clinical finishing ability of Owen.
I am from the UK and according to sky sports Robinho is definetely coming to Madrid, where will this leave Owen? Robinho or any other striker is not needed at all, but Robinhos arrival will mean that Owen will become surplus sadly. I honestly feel that if Owen doe stay he MUST be given a regular sport next season and if this is the case Real will benefit. Let us not forget it has been his first seasom in a foreign land and he been fantastic in my opinion he has exposed Raul as an over rated striker.
Minof
05-23-2005, 10:07 PM
I thought that he had a great season that could have been better if he had got more chances, whatever happens to him at the end of the season he can be proud of himself and his achievments this campaign. :)
Rickster
05-24-2005, 12:52 AM
i dunt believe u sed raul isnt a gud finisher. mayb slow in pace. but isnt a gud finisher, im sure every1 will definately say raul can finish much beta than owen. hes got all the different types of finishes, from header, placement, chips, volleys, power shots and bi footed. owen is so right footed and he cant header the ball. i can say tat owen had a way much beta season than raul. but how can a striker who has won many tings be overrated, hes already been proven. but yes owen has had a fantastic season and much beta than raul, but dunt go on sayin hes overrated.
btw robinho is goin to go on loan if he cums. he can play almost anywhere on the pitch, so theres no problem fittin him on the pitch. ive seen him play in santos he plays slightly behind deivid
Minof
05-24-2005, 02:44 AM
btw robinho is goin to go on loan if he cums. he can play almost anywhere on the pitch, so theres no problem fittin him on the pitch. ive seen him play in santos he plays slightly behind deivid
Nice one for the Robinho info. :thumbsup:
Cant wait for the summer and see what happens with owen will he stay or will he go??? :confused:
RaulMadrid7
05-24-2005, 05:00 AM
peace786, you talk alot about Raul not being a critical finisher and Owen being much better than him.
I respect your opinion but, Raul has not been doing very well this past season although he still holds the record for most goals in Champions league and other records.
Owen is a great player and is a very good finisher, but Raul in my opinion doing alot more than he is on the pitch in terms of assists and distributing the ball while Owen is silent for almost the whole game. But the good part about Owen is that he might be silent for almost the whole game but then suddenly his first or second touch can be a goal. But you have to remember that this first or second touch is not created by Owen most of the time, but it is created by players like Raul, Ronaldo, Beckham, etc...
In my view I don't think you have watched much of the latest Real Madrid games, so please take a better look before you listen to the media, because the media cares more about goals than the work put into making them.
I think Robinho should definately come to Real Madrid even if it means that Raul, Owen or any other player should be benched, because I have watched Robinho's goals on the Santos website and with teh assists etc... he is an amazing talent.
Next season should be exciting for Real Madrid, hopefully. :D
Becks
05-24-2005, 05:35 AM
I was in awe after seeing Raul's 3 defender run in their most recent match. All the while, he was getting fouled. He deserves to be captain.
As for Owen,
He has done wonders for a struggling Madrid. If not for him, the league fight would not have been near as close. He barely missed the goal in their match against Atl. Madrid.
Leon of Silvren
05-24-2005, 06:16 AM
I think Owen's season was great considering the little time he had on the field......the problem with him here I think is that he plays better with Raul than with Ronaldo, Owen is a supporting striker, because of his abilities and his low points he needs someone to be by his side, unlike the ones such Adriano or Ronaldo, who can create goals all by themselves. You ask where is the problem there? 1.)Raul is not playing quite well 2.)Ronaldo won't be benched and right now shouldn't.
That's why he needs to start on the bench and then come out from there. The best would be if he Ronaldo gets replaced by him on the minute 65-70 at least....but the problem is -and I don't know why, he comes in 5-10 minutes left to the final.
Probably next season will be better for him, maybe -and hopefully he gets more time on the field because he deserves it. But he can't be a starter, sad to say that but his records are better when he comes out from the bench than when he starts on the field. Maybe on the future he'll have more room and play as starter, but right now with Ronaldo and Raul as competition it'll be very hard for him.....
Rickster
05-24-2005, 10:18 AM
i tink the formation currently is great. owen and ronaldo up front while raul and zidane supports them. and beckham givin those long ball for support. we juz gota keep working hard and not concede any goals even if it means we draw 0-0. and draw is beta than a lost. once we get our defense right then attack is no problem
hezri
05-24-2005, 12:50 PM
I still think that Owen has much to do about his ball control and quick passing . He is already a great finisher , why dont improve more so that he can become more useful .
Aryan
05-24-2005, 01:05 PM
He was great-how much chance he`s been given. It`s shame for player like him to sit on the bench. I think he should move to some club where he will be first team regular.
peace786
05-24-2005, 01:41 PM
Owen shouldnt be on the bench, a player like Owen doesnt deserve to sit on the bench. Raul should have been on the bench, the reason why Real didnt win the league was because Raul played and Owen was left on the bench for many matches. The rule is simple, the player that doesnt peform has to sit on the bench and that player was Raul, but due to his egoe and past record he started and poor Owen had to make way.
Raul isnt a better striker than Owen, I really believe that. Owen has a good header, and Rauls right foot is worse than Owens left. Real lost the league due to them presisting with a woeful Raul. Yes Raul has skill and take on players, but with his slow pace he isnt frightening enough. Owen doest have to take on paleyrs as his positional play is so good. Next season will be very interesting.
I have seen the last few matches of Real live from start to finish and yes Raul played well but so what? playing well in 2 matches (lost causes at that) is no conolation for being so awful in the other 30+ matches.
Rickster
05-24-2005, 04:35 PM
i tink if owen actually comes down to the attacking midfield he mite get the ball more often, make himself more composed. he still has to prove himself next yr though
Becks
05-24-2005, 09:27 PM
I like the current formation as well. Having all 3 of the strikers play is better. I think Raul is better suited for attacking mid anyways.
Lance Knight
05-24-2005, 10:37 PM
yea i totally agree, and raul has been florishing more there too
zidane
06-04-2005, 10:34 AM
Ronaldo---Owen
------Raul------
That is a good attacking formation, if it remains (next season)
Rickster
06-04-2005, 12:38 PM
plus raul gave a relly gud assist to roberto carlos in zAragoza match
Leon of Silvren
06-05-2005, 08:20 AM
Ronaldo---Owen
------Raul------
That is a good attacking formation, if it remains (next season)
I disagree, the three of them can't play together.....at least not with the formation Luxa was using.....
Lance Knight
06-05-2005, 09:07 AM
well what do u suggest, i think this is the best way to go
----------------roanldo-----------owen--------
--------------------------raul-------------------
Robinho/Zindane---------------------Beckham/Zindane
-----------------------Graveson/Helegara-------------------
R.Carlos/Bravo---Samuel-----Woodgate/Helegara--Salgado/Mejia
Leon of Silvren
06-05-2005, 09:11 AM
Simple:
------Ronaldo----Raul
------------Zidane---
--Solari--------------Beckham/Figo
Lance Knight
06-05-2005, 10:11 AM
so what u saying is gett rid of owen from the starting line up...
i would like nothing more, i think he is alittle punk, but owen and beckham just signed extensions to their contracts
Rickster
06-05-2005, 12:33 PM
owen has saved us so many times... n hes listed in the top goal scorers chart aswell.... so definately goin into the startin 11
Leon of Silvren
06-06-2005, 06:51 AM
What are you talking about Lance?? Owen played great this season, I do want him out of the starter line-up but I want him as a fixed sub in the minute 60-70'.....
Lance Knight
06-06-2005, 08:45 AM
it think owen should star with this line up
---------Owen----------Roanldo
----------------Raul------------
Zindane----------------------Beckham
and then later bring in robinho for zindane,
Leon of Silvren
06-07-2005, 08:06 AM
I don't like having Raul playing there, I stick to the idea that he should play ahead of Ronaldo.....also, Zidane must be placed in the centre of the field.
Lance Knight
06-07-2005, 09:43 AM
nah i dont think raul infront of ronaldo would work, then ronnis would fall back to much and the lazy bum would hardly ever make it close to goal, but Zindane can play as a Left mid, he played there offend when figo used to do his tricks and kept switching sides, and the Carlos would be running up the left flank helping him
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