Turkey-Greece

[PAO_HELLAS]

Here we can talk about the upcoming Turkey-Greece game on June 4.

I hope that Greece wins but I see draw as the most possible result. I predict 1-1.

Provocative messages here will be deleted immediately.

[Turkhooligan]

Turkey or Greece could win 1-0..

[Metroplex]

Turkey or Greece could win 1-0..

What you meant to say was Greece will win.

[Anti-Fenerbahce]

What you meant to say was Greece will win.

STOP PROVOKING DAMN IT!!!! :( :grumpy: :

[_TURK_]

it will be an easy match for us..

[plato-ny]

it will be an easy match for us..

Yeah, an easy match for you to lose...

[Anti-Fenerbahce]

STOP PROVOKING DAMN IT!!!! :( :grumpy: :

I did not provoke man!! I have no idea what you'r talkin about. :mad:

[poutismalakas]

I did not provoke man!! I have no idea what you'r talkin about. :mad:
Maybe I overreached a little ok!

[Turkhooligan]

it will be an easy match for us..But it can be too..For example 3 or 4-0 with our hoolies help.. :nerd:

[Metroplex]

But it can be too..For example 3 or 4-0 with our hoolies help.. :nerd:

Thanksgiving will be held on June 4th this year because that's the day we roast a turkey.

[Petalideos]

This is gearing up for a memorable match between the 2 sides.

A Greek loss and we are still in the hunt for 2nd even 1st place. Turkey loses and it will an uphill battle...5 points out of second and they must travel to the Ukraine and then play Denmark at home.

The stress will be on who? Expect Turkey to come out flying...an all out attack....we have seen this before...Greece was patient and then capitalize on their opportunities.

[SRBIJA]

Thanksgiving will be held on June 4th this year because that's the day we roast a turkey.


hehehe hahhahaha :rolling: :cool: :)

[Antonis]

Thanksgiving will be held on June 4th this year because that's the day we roast a turkey.

LOL good one!!

[plato-ny]

But it can be too..For example 3 or 4-0 with our hoolies help.. :nerd:

Your hoolies will help Turkey...not score 3 or 4 goals but get punished 3 or 4 points beacuse of the hoolies.

[Anti-Fenerbahce]

Thanksgiving will be held on June 4th this year because that's the day we roast a turkey. :nerd: :smallpig: :nerd: :smallpig: :nerd: :smallpig: :nerd: :smallpig: [/IMG]http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/Images/035_ComicPope2.jpg

The only thing that will be roasted on June 4th is 11 Greek goats, called football players in Grease. :)

[Turkhooligan]

hehehe hahhahaha :rolling: :cool: :)How are you my broken friend.. :cool:

[_TURK_]

ı am sure she is,sorry,he is a bit painful :kiss: :kiss:

[poutismalakas]

The only thing that will be roasted on June 4th is 11 Greek goats, called football players in Grease. :)
Or even better 11 turkeys posing as crappy football players fried in greek olive oil?? HUUMMM delicious!! :smoking:

[plato-ny]

A recipe thats easy to follow.

[Hasan_Lukum]

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[SiN]

hahaha...nice...grease goats... :smoking: Lets smoke them...we will win 2-0


TURKIYEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

[plato-ny]

Here's Turkey before the game:

http://www.huntstats.com/images/Wild_Turkey_Tom.jpg



Heres' Turkey after the game:

[Turkhooligan]

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[nachi88]

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see, there is no need for all this nonsense here. Greeks are also a relegious people, and not a satan as you say. Dont post such provocative nonsense here.

[PAO_HELLAS]

Nachi, what are you trying to explain to him? lol...

And guys I opened this thread to talk about the football match between Turkey and Greece. This is not a gastronomy forum, please don't make us close this thread too.

[plato-ny]

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[SiN]

u opend it so we comment on the game and we are sayin TURKiYE will win... :D

[VANCITY 21]

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[Turkhooligan]

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[Anti-Fenerbahce]

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[Turkhooligan]

no he wasnt, but I'll tell you who was a fag and a child molester: Alexander the "Great" (the FAG), Platon, Sokrates, Aristoteles, Achilles, Leonidas....and in fact ALL ancient Greeks were fags and child molesters. :boo:

Thats a FACT!

That could be also the reason, why the greeks are so hairy, stupid, swarthy and just mutant looking. HAHAHAHAHA ;) ;) ..

[poutismalakas]

no he wasnt, but I'll tell you who was a fag and a child molester: Alexander the "Great" (the FAG), Platon, Sokrates, Aristoteles, Achilles, Leonidas....and in fact ALL ancient Greeks were fags and child molesters.
YOU forgot the BIGGET GAY AND PEDOPHILE OF ALL TIME Mekmet the so-called conqurer!!!!!!

Anyways back to soccer! I believe Greece will WIN cause we are playing HOT right now!!!!!BUT it will be close 2-1 or 1-0 against Turkey!! My prediction!!!
Hopefully the match will be played well and with honor on both sides!

[PAO_HELLAS]

In my opinion that is the most difficult game remaining. If we win this we can win the others too, we have Ukraine and Georgia at home. And Denmark away but Denmark is a team with better tradition at away matches so I think we can take a win there if we need it. I see as a fact the win against Kazakhstan :D.

[plato-ny]

Stathis Tavlaridis has been named by Mr. Rehhagel -along with other players who play abroad- for the matches against Turkey and Ukraine (2006 World Cup preliminaries). Tavlaridis has played in international matches with Youth teams and this is the first time he has been called up to the A´ National Team. The other foreign-playing players named by the National Head Coach are: Kostas Chalkias, Panagiotis Fyssas, Theodoros Zagorakis, Zissis Vryzas, Georgios Seitaridis, Ioannis Amanatidis, Georgios Karagounis, Angleos Charisteas, Michalis Kapsis, Sotiris Kyrgiakos, Stelios Giannakopoulos, Vassilis Lakis, Vassilis Tsiartas.

Zago will play against Ukraine. No Dellas for either game.

[plato-ny]

Read this article about Dellas from a few days ago:

To Ï€Ï?όβλημα στη μΪση που ταλαιπώÏ?ησε από τον ΦεβÏ?ουάÏ?ιο τον ΤÏ?αϊανό ΔΪλλα, δεν υποχώÏ?ησε και ο «κολοσσός» της Εθνικής μας ομάδας θα το λÏ?σει μια και καλή το Σάββατο στην Αθήνα σε μια επΪμβαση σχεδόν Ï?ουτίνας που θα την αναλάβει ο διακεκÏ?ιμΪνος χειÏ?ουÏ?γός (ειδικευμΪνος σε εγχειÏ?ίσεις στη σπονδυλική στήλη) καθηγητής Θανάσης ΣεφεÏ?λής. Η επΪμβαση αφοÏ?ά σε αφαίÏ?εση κήλης μεσοσπονδÏ?λιου δίσκου. Κατά Ï„ άλλα, ο ΤÏ?αϊανός ΔΪλλας αποχαιÏ?Ϊτησε τους συμπαίκτες του στη Ρόμα και ετοιμάζεται μετά την αποθεÏ?απεία του να ταξιδΪψει στη Σκοτία. Η Ï€Ï?όταση των ΡΪιντζεÏ?Ï‚ και το ενδεχόμενο να αγωνιστεί δίπλα στον ΣωτήÏ?η ΚυÏ?γιάκο στο κΪντÏ?ο της άμυνας της σκοτσΪζικης ομάδας, δείχνει να συναÏ?πάζει τον ΔΪλλα ο οποίος βÏ?ίσκεται πολÏ? κοντά στο να πει το «ναι» στον τεχνικό των «ΤζεÏ?ς» Αλεξ ΜακΛις.

What do you think? He'll play? Or will Tavlaridis call up mean that he'll replace Dellas, even though he's inexperienced? He plays for Lille in France and is a defender.

[PAO_HELLAS]

Difficult for Dellas to play. Goumas can take his place too exept Tavlaridis.

[PAO_HELLAS]

Bad news... Dellas out for 2 months. He loses the matches with Ukraine, Turkey and the Confederations cup. I read at contra.gr.

[Goki]

Idk who will win but i hope Turkey wins.

[plato-ny]

Bad news... Dellas out for 2 months. He loses the matches with Ukraine, Turkey and the Confederations cup. I read at contra.gr.

Without Zago and Dellas, our 2 Macedonian spears, Greece will have a hard time in Turkey. But, somebody has to step up!!!

[plato-ny]

Tavlaridis will take Dellas' place for the next 2 months:

Greece defender Traianos Dellas will miss his side's next two FIFA World Cup qualifiers after undergoing a hernia operation in Athens on Saturday.

Two months out

The AS Roma centre-back, who has scored once in 25 appearances for Greece, is expected to be out for the next two months, ruling him out of important World Cup qualifiers against Turkey and Ukraine in June as well as the Confederations Cup in Germany between 15 and 29 June.

Long-term problem

It is hoped the surgery will help Dellas recover from a persistent sciatic nerve problem which also caused him to miss Greece's qualifying games against Georgia and Albania in March.

Tavlaridis chance

Greece coach Otto Rehhagel has called up LOSC Lille Métropole centre-back Efstathios Tavlaridis for the first time in Dellas' absence. Rehhagel is already without captain Theodoros Zagorakis who is supended for the crucial match against Turkey.

Good run

After a poor start to their qualifying campaign the European champions have won their past four matches to move into second place on 14 points, three behind leaders Ukraine.

[plato-ny]

Greece coach Otto Rehhagel named Thursday a 22-man squad for the upcoming key FIFA World Cup 2006 qualifying matches against Turkey away (June 4) and Ukraine home (June 8).

Goalkeepers: Antonis Nikopolidis (Olympiakos)
Costas Halkias (Portsmouth/ENGLAND)

Defenders: Michalis Kapsis (Bordeaux/FRANCE)
Giorgos Seitaridis (Porto/PORTO)
Panayiotis Fissas (Benfica/PORTO)
Sotiris Kyrgiakos (Rangers/SCOTLAND)
Stathis Tavlaridis (Lille/FRANCE)
Lukas Vyntra (Panathinaikos)
Yiannis Goumas (Panathinaikos)

Midfielders: Theodoros Zagorakis (Bologna/ITALY) *will play June 8
Stelios Giannakopoulos (Bolton/ENGLAND)
Vasilis Tsiartas (Koln/GERMANY)
Vasilis Lakis (Crystal Palace/ENGLAND)
Giorgos Karagounis (Inter Milan/ITALY)
Ioannis Amanatidis (Kaiserslautern/GERMANY)
Costas Katsouranis (AEK)
Angelos Basinas (Panathinaikos)
Pantelis Kafes (Olympiakos)

Strikers: Zisis Vrizas (Celta/SPAIN)
Angelos Haristeas (Ajax/NETHERLANDS)
Dimitris Papadopoulos (Panathinaikos)
Fanis Gekas (Panathinaikos)

Recently, Liberopoulos from AEK was called up as a striker and might play.

[philipas]

it will be an easy match for us..


Easy match..lol...Well you better hope you win because you're history if you don't, whereas Greece can afford to lose.
Zagorakis and Dellas are out so you have that advantage, but it will never be easy beating the European champions.

[philipas]

;) ;) ..


You should be banned dirty mouth. Was Sinan the ottoman architect gay?

[PAO_HELLAS]

Greece coach Otto Rehhagel named Thursday a 22-man squad for the upcoming key FIFA World Cup 2006 qualifying matches against Turkey away (June 4) and Ukraine home (June 8).

Goalkeepers: Antonis Nikopolidis (Olympiakos)
Costas Halkias (Portsmouth/ENGLAND)

Defenders: Michalis Kapsis (Bordeaux/FRANCE)
Giorgos Seitaridis (Porto/PORTO)
Panayiotis Fissas (Benfica/PORTO)
Sotiris Kyrgiakos (Rangers/SCOTLAND)
Stathis Tavlaridis (Lille/FRANCE)
Lukas Vyntra (Panathinaikos)
Yiannis Goumas (Panathinaikos)

Midfielders: Theodoros Zagorakis (Bologna/ITALY) *will play June 8
Stelios Giannakopoulos (Bolton/ENGLAND)
Vasilis Tsiartas (Koln/GERMANY)
Vasilis Lakis (Crystal Palace/ENGLAND)
Giorgos Karagounis (Inter Milan/ITALY)
Ioannis Amanatidis (Kaiserslautern/GERMANY)
Costas Katsouranis (AEK)
Angelos Basinas (Panathinaikos)
Pantelis Kafes (Olympiakos)

Strikers: Zisis Vrizas (Celta/SPAIN)
Angelos Haristeas (Ajax/NETHERLANDS)
Dimitris Papadopoulos (Panathinaikos)
Fanis Gekas (Panathinaikos)

Recently, Liberopoulos from AEK was called up as a striker and might play.

About the same squad is to be sent at Confederations cup. Only a 3rd goalkeeper is going to be added to the squad for the . It will be Abaris or Sifakis.

The NT members will meet on Sunday, they will train at Agios Cosmas athletic centre till Thursday and at Friday they are leaving for Turkey. They will visit the partiarchio there too.

[philipas]

Can't wai for that game. It will be full of tension. What do you think will be the outcome PAO?

[PAO_HELLAS]

Can't wai for that game. It will be full of tension. What do you think will be the outcome PAO?

As I have said again I believe this is the most difficult match for us that remains at WC qualifies. I see the most possible result a draw, but we can win if the team shows the good face and have no fear.

[philipas]

how can they have fear? They are riding on success and besides they showed little fear in Portugal. With King Otto in charge I have faith.

[PAO_HELLAS]

I said that because we expect the Turkish fans to make hot atmosphere. But most of our NT players have played many times in hot atmosphere and so it is difficult to fear because of this.

[philipas]

I agree. vlepis synfoname ya polla

[PAO_HELLAS]

What club do you support? :D

[plato-ny]

I see a 0-0- draw.

[ARBANITAI]

I see a 0-0- draw.

:rolleyes: What happened with you guys why you dont predict a better score for Greece anymore like 2-1 or 1-0 as you did before...? :sealed: :silly:
Are you guys starting to be afraid of losing it all or feel the Attention now before the 4th june game !!
its good to be real.. :silly:

[plato-ny]

A tie would be great for us. A win would put us one foot in the second place spot. What one wants and what one thinks will happen are totally different. I would love a win but I think it'll be a draw because 1) Injuries on both sides are even and 2) Greece will be the underdog road team and Turkey will have all the pressure on them at home. It evens out. Just my opinion.

[philipas]

What club do you support? :D


PAOK is my club, even though they haven't done much in a while, but can't change your club. :cool: :sleepy:

[PAO_HELLAS]

:rolleyes: What happened with you guys why you dont predict a better score for Greece anymore like 2-1 or 1-0 as you did before...? :sealed: :silly:
Are you guys starting to be afraid of losing it all or feel the Attention now before the 4th june game !!
its good to be real.. :silly:

I was always predicting a draw for this game.

[Refeto]

PAOK is my club, even though they haven't done much in a while, but can't change your club. :cool: :sleepy:
Philipas, I heard that POAK just trasfered Turkish defender Fatih Aykel from VfL Bochum. Dude, POAK made the biggest mistake of their life. He doesnt play good anymore. He was playing in Fenerbahce this season and he couldnt find a chance to play and the coach gave him a chance in Manchester Undited game and he made so many mistakes and we conceded 2 goals because of him. Of course after that in the middle of the season we sold him. Obvousily Bochum wasn't happy too. As a POAK fan, dont expect anything from him!

About the game, I think Turkey has better chance then Greece but you never know what would happen in a game like this. As prediction, I say Turkey will win 2-1 or 1-1 draw...

[plato-ny]

Head coach Otto Rehhagel gave an interview to «K» magazine («Kathimerini» newspaper inset) in which he spoke among other things about winning Euro 2004, his instructions to the players and Greece΄s odds for qualification to the World Cup finals in Germany:

EURO 2004:

In Portugal we managed to maintain a very high level of play, regardless of the opponent we faced in each match. Greece were like a rocket launched in space and it was perfectly natural for their performance to bend a little following their exerting themselves to win the European Championship. It΄s very difficult to always make it, but we try to keep our performance on a high level.

As to Greece΄s odds for qualifying in the 2006 World Cup:

Surely, we΄ll have to fight hard during the next two matches, against Turkey and Ukraine, but I have faith in my players΄ potential and I think that with a bit of luck we can make it.

As to his instructions to the players ahead of the matches against Turkey and Ukraine:

The same thing I told them in our first time together when I assumed duties with the national team: The need to co-operate as best as possible so that the team can give their best performance. Apart from the team-spirit which should be guiding us, I remind each player that they should make an effort to eliminate mistakes and never to be influenced by personal emotions once they get on the field; particularly in June matches it is very important not to let what΄s happening on the stand influence us and to maintain our composure and professionalism.

As to his relations with his players:

One of the things that makes me very happy is that over than 90% of the players I have coached are still my friends. This is very important for me because life goes on after the end of the game.

As to what he has changed in the national team:

I believe that the players have become a little German and I a little Greek. After I assessed the special capabilities of all the players I shaped our play based on this. Initially there was some hesitation on their part to adopt to it, but once the successful outcomes kept coming, they were all more than eager to do so!

His choices for the A΄ National Team:

All my players are important to me and all of them have a very important part to play in setting up a strong team. I have focused on creating a strong core, a block of players, who have reached a certain degree of automatism in the way they function by now and have proved their effectiveness on the field.

Finally, Mr. Rehhagel offers his suggestions for the improvement of the picture in Greek football:

To transform the quality of the display every Sunday, the Greek sides will have to systematically improve their grassroots. They should tend new talents much more than they are today, including them in their rosters from a very young age. Of course, that΄s not an easy task since Greece is not a 80 million people country like Germany, where many new talents emerge every year because of the large number of children taking up football.


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A΄ National Team had their first training session ahead of the qualifiers against Turkey (4/06/05) and Ukraine (8/06/05) for the 2006 World Cup on Sunday 29 May at Agios Kosmas Sports Center. Following Mr. Rehhagel΄s decision the training sessions of Wednesday 1/06/05 and Thursday 2/06/05 will be closed.

Players΄ statements:

Angelos Charisteas: Turkey are a strong team but we can win in Constantinople. The hosts will be under stress and we have to take advantage of it. We are looking to win in every match and that΄s what we are going to do on Saturday.

Angelos Bassinas: We know it΄s a difficult match in Turkey but we are always aiming at victory. Dellas and Zagorakis absence will be important, since we are used to have them with us on the field.

Ioannis Goumas: We have two difficult but also crucial matches ahead of us. We know very well that in Turkey there is going to be a heavy atmosphere for us. Turkey need those points as much as we do. We are prepared to give it our best shot in the forthcoming matches. I think that a draw in Turkey would be a very positive result. We hope this June to be as lucky as the previous one has been for Greece. But we have to be as determined and focused as we were back then.

Kostas Katsouranis: The ideal would be two wins but to be realistic this is hard to do. I think that if we win the match at home and don΄t lose the one in Turkey we΄ll be satisfied. We know there is going to be a hot atmosphere in Turkey but I don΄t think we΄ll be influenced by that. All the players are used to perform in difficult conditions. Of course, it΄s not a good thing to have players absent but we will all try to cover for them.

[plato-ny]

Greece reached the finals of the UEFA European Under-19 Championship for the first time as a third successive victory wrapped up first place in Elite round Group 5.


Christodopoulos conversion

Greece - who lasted reached these finals in 1999, when the tournament was played as a U18 event - went into their final game at the Vöcklabruck stadium knowing that a point would prove sufficient to earn a berth in this summer's final tournament in Northern Ireland. Lazaros Christodopoulos went close to opening the scoring in the 17th minute, but did manage to break the deadlock seven minutes later, rounding off fine work by Stylianos Iliadis on the left wing.

Clinching second

Needing a win to keep their qualification hopes alive, Slovakia pressed forward as the second half got under way, but Erik Jendrisek's cross-shot went narrowly wide and Greek goalkeeper Alexandros Kasmeridis denied Jakub Rondzik to keep his side in front. The points, and a finals place, were secured by Dimitris Kiliaras four minutes from time, capitalising on another assist by Iliadis to set off Greek celebrations.

I know this is a thread for the Turkey game but this recent success gives us more insight into the celebrations that will follow after Saturday... :rolling:

[plato-ny]

Greece see chance to shut door on neighbours

The last time Greece were preparing to face Turkey, in September last year, coach Otto Rehhagel and his assistant Ioannis Topalidis got caught in the Athens traffic en route to a pre-match press conference.

Drivers in the vehicles around caught sight of Rehhagel, and one cry of support fast became a clamour for the man who had just guided Greece to the European crown. The German responded with a smile and asked: "What will happen if we lose against Turkey?" The response was unanimous: "We don't care, you gave us the European Championship, you will always be in our hearts."

With another match against Turkey looming, there is no doubt the sentiment among Greek supporters remains the same, but nearly 12 months on from UEFA EURO 2004, Rehhagel and his men are only looking forwards. Midfielder Stelios Giannakopoulos this week described the FIFA World Cup finals as being "the biggest experience a player can have in his career", underlining the desire in the Greece squad to build on last summer's success by qualifying for Germany 2006.

They will do their prospects of achieving that goal the power of good if they take something from their 4 June trip to Turkey. Greece are presently in second place in Group 2, three points behind leaders Ukraine and two ahead of Turkey.

With Ukraine due to visit Piraeus on 8 June, a victory against Turkey would not only open a five-point gap on their neighbours but – presuming Ukraine win their home game against Kazakhstan on the same day – would also mean that they would then enter that second match knowing victory would draw them level with Oleg Blokhin's side at the top of the group. For this reason, Giannakopoulos told FIFAworldcup.com: "A draw would be a great result but it would be better to win."

Greece are certainly in a healthier position than they found themselves in after Turkey came away from the Giorgios Karaiskakis stadium with a 0-0 draw in September. That stalemate followed the European champions' 2-1 defeat in Albania in their opening qualifier but since then Rehhagel's men have been on a roll: since drawing in Ukraine in October they have collected four consecutive wins.

Tough assignment awaits

Still, as Giannakopoulos acknowledged, a tough assignment awaits against a Turkey team not short on motivation either – and whose own hopes were revived by two victories in March. "It is going to be a big battle for us because Turkey are just one win away from overtaking us," he said. "Apart from that it is a great derby, like the Albanian one – they also want to win for national reasons as well."

Greece will go into the game with two notable absentees in captain Theodoros Zagorakis, who is suspended, and central defender Traianos Dellas, who is sidelined after a hernia operation. The consolation for Rehhagel is that he can at least call on two in-form replacements in Konstantinos Katsouranis, who has excelled in the AEK Athens midfield this season, and defender Sotiros Kyrgiakos, who has just helped Glasgow Rangers win the Scottish league.

The one new face in the squad is defender Efstathios Tavlaridis, a reward for his efforts for high-flying Lille in France. "I have played at all junior levels for the national team and it's a honour for me to be called to the senior squad,� he said of his first call-up. A first cap in Istanbul would be some baptism of fire but at least he is not short of confidence. After four straight wins, the same can be said of the whole Greece squad.

Greece breakdown:

Get the balance right After their brilliant success at the UEFA European Championship, Otto Rehhagel's troops must have expected a more routine FIFA World Cup qualifying campaign than the one they find themselves in. Struggling to cope with the added pressure perhaps, it took Greece four games to record their first victory.

That came in the form of a 3-1 win over Kazakhstan, and it set the Greeks right back on track for Germany 2006. Rediscovering the form that made them the surprise package in Portugal last year, they immediately took maximum points from their matches against Denmark (2-1), Georgia (3-1) and Albania (2-0). Currently second in Group 2, Greece now entertain serious hopes of booking a FIFA World Cup ticket that would understandably mean so much to their German coach.

But their position is not as straightforward as it may seem. A draw in Istanbul would obviously suit their cause, but the Greeks will also be aware that a win would take Turkey out of the equation altogether, not to mention a Danish side lying another five points further back. The order of the day, therefore, will be striking the right balance between rigour and pragmatism.

Key to the match:

The Greek goalie will of course be aided by the four defenders in front of him, but as Turkey pour forward and leave gaps at the back, the focus could quickly shift on to the scavenging work performed by Angelos Charisteas and Zisis Vryzas at the other end of the pitch.

The stakes:

Three crucial points

In the case of the Greeks, victory would be even more decisive. Practically eliminated, Turkey and Denmark would be forced to watch the fireworks as Ukraine and Greece played for the automatic qualification spot four days later.

[poutismalakas]

I CAN'T wait for this game to start!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:

[PAO_HELLAS]

I CAN'T wait for this game to start!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:

It is not only you... :D

[bitsakos]

I CAN'T wait for this game to start!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:
defenitly not the only one!!

[Turkhooligan]

Hi guys..How is the waiting going??I am in Konstantinapoli now :evil: ..There was a big voyage Antalya to Konstantinapoli..We are together now(www.turkhooligans.com friendable flowers :heart: )You know There is a big party about :D :heart: :rolling:

Watch the words you use sometimes.

[Turkhooligan]

Personally i am believing that it will be good ceramony and you will see again**Ä°f turks believe,oppenent is not important for them** :rolling:

[OCFP]

Personally i am believing that it will be good ceramony and you will see again**Ä°f turks believe,oppenent is not important for them** :rolling:

All the pressure is on you baby.. We only need the tie but I see the future......

Turkey1-2Greece
Giannakopoulos 6'
Someone 44'
Giannakopoulos 87'

Edited to delete a racist message

[plato-ny]

Greece coach: team must start well



ATHENS (AP) - Greece coach Otto Rehhagel said his team must start well in Saturday's World Cup qualifying match against rival Turkey if it's to succeed in the hostile atmosphere of Istanbul's Inonu Stadium.

European champion Greece has recovered from a poor start in qualifying - when it lost 2-1 at Albania and drew 0-0 at home with Turkey - to sit in second place in Group 2 with 14 points. Ukraine leads the group with 17 points, while third-place Turkey has 12 points. All have played seven of 12 matches.

"We should be careful at the start of the game," Rehhagel said Wednesday. "We don't want a repeat of what happened in Albania - 10 minutes into the game, we were trailing by two goals.

"All of our team have played in Europe and are accustomed to such an atmosphere."

Tension between the two countries is such that a television advertisement - featuring Greek midfielder Stelios Giannakopoulos - has screened in Greece and Turkey urging fans to be calm.

Rehhagel said that, although he will be without suspended captain Theodoros Zagorakis - player of the tournament at last year's European Championship - and injured defender Traianos Dellas, the rest of the squad remains intact.

"This cannot be an excuse. We must have a good performance and cover the gap created by those absences," he said. "The players are in a very good condition and spirit."

Rehhagel could call on Glasgow Rangers defender Sotiris Kyrgiakos, who missed the European Championship through injury, or rookie Stathis Tavlaridis to replace Dellas.

Lille defender Tavlaridis is the sole debutante in the Greek squad.

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Rehhagel: "Have to Overcome the Pressure"


As per the coach of the Greek National Team, Otto Rehhagel, the aim of the Greek National Team is to secure four points in the two upcoming matches against Turkey and the Ukraine. During a Press conference held on the occasion of the two crucial matches coming up, the German coach was tight-lipped, as per usual, but his remarks were to the point, since he noted that both matches are very tough. However, he noted that the players are in great from and are ready to try their hardest for a positive result in Istanbul. With regard to what they have to be careful of, Mr Rehhagel pointed out that Turkey would play to win, since a tie does not help them, so as a result the Greek team will be pressured right from the start. Therefore, in order to reach a positive result, the Greek team would have to overcome this pressure, as well as not be fazed by the intense atmosphere in Inonu Stadium, which will be packed with Turkish fans, and relive the game with Albani, where they received two quick goals.





Crucial Games


Mr Rehhagel also noted that both games are very crucial for Greece and the squad would have to win at least four points if they want to remain in second place in their group, as well as increase their chances of finishing on top.

"Following these two games, there will be three matches left, so it would be difficult to cover the gap created by possible negative results against Turkey and the Ukraine," he noted.

Referring to the absences of Dellas and Zagorakis, Mr Rehhagel believes that their replacements would rise to the challenge in Inonu’s pitch, covering all the gaps.

Finally, he announced that his request to the Italian Football Federation to grant a short leave to Karagounis and Zagorakis was accepted in part.

Karagounis will only play with Inter during the first final, while after that he will be included in the Confederations Cup squad.

On the other hand, Zagorakis will play as per normal for Bologna, and as a result will miss the first two matches against Brazil and Japan.

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June 2 (Reuters) - Turkey face a highly-charged encounter with historic rivals Greece on Saturday that could have a major bearing on their chances of reaching next year's World Cup finals in Germany.

European champions Greece are second in Group Two with 14 points, two ahead of Turkey and three behind leaders Ukraine.

If Greece were to beat Turkey -- and Ukraine beat Kazakhstan as expected on the same day -- it will leave Turkey eight points behind Ukraine and five behind Greece with just four matches left to play.

Greece and Turkey drew 0-0 in their first ever competitive match in Athens last September.

The Aegean neighbours slipped up at the start of qualifying, with Greece losing in Albania while Turkey drew at home with unfancied Georgia. However, they have both recovered their poise and are still in contention to reach the finals.

"Nobody should worry. We have done our homework very well," Turkey coach Ersun Yanal told local media.

"All matches in the group are critical... At the moment none of us has the luxury of being able to lose against each other."

Turkey will be without Real Sociedad forward Nihat Kahveci and Fenerbahce defender Servet Cetin who are injured.

Yanal has called up Trabzonspor defender Erdinc Yavuz and Denizlispor midfielder Guven Varol for the first time for the match at Besiktas' Inonu Stadium which overlooks the Bosphorus strait.

Galatasaray striker Hakan Sukur has again been overlooked despite scoring regularly for his club but Yanal's attacking options include Hakan's team mate Necati Ates, Fenerbahce duo Tuncay Sanli and Serhat Akin and Trabzonspor's Fatih Tekke.


ZAGORAKIS OUT

Greece will be without inspirational captain Theodoros Zagorakis, whose one-match suspension means he will miss his first international after 101 consecutive appearances.

Injured defender Traianos Dellas is also sideliend and will miss the qualifying match against Ukraine next Wednesday as well so Rehhagel has to reshuffle his defence.

He is likely to bring in Loukas Vyntra or Stathis Tavlaridis on the right and move Yourkas Seitaridis into central defence.

"It is important that we maintain the two-point lead we have over Turkey," said Greece coach Otto Rehhagel. "We must strengthen our grip on second spot in the group and after that mathematically everything is possible, even first place."

Asked if a draw with Turkey would be a good result he said: "Yes it will, because we will hold on to our lead over Turkey."

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Everything seems to be ready for the Greek Men’s Football team, which will play in Turkey on Saturday for the preliminary round of the FIFA World Cup. Among the good news is that Kostas Chalkias is back in action after today’s last training in Athens at the sports facilities of Agios Kosmas. The Greek goalkeeper completed his training as per normal and was thus included in the delegation that will travel for Turkey tomorrow in view of Saturday’s match.





Plans for the Lineup


From then onwards, Otto Rehhagel is thinking of the lineup at the quite difficult match against Turkey on Saturday. By the looks of it, the German coach has probably already made up his mind for Saturday.

Antonis Nikopolidis will be standing under the post, while Basinas will replace injured Dellas with Kyrgiakos and Kapsis by his side in defence. Seitaridis and Fyssas will undertake the tasks of right and left back half respectively, Karagounis and Katsouranis will be playing at the centre, Giannakopoulos will take the place of left half, Charisteas of right and Vryzas will be at the heart of the offense.

[OCFP]

it will be an easy match for us..


LOL

[Gennadios]

The Greek team should drink some Ouzo before the game, get loose a bit.

[philipas]

Philipas, I heard that POAK just trasfered Turkish defender Fatih Aykel from VfL Bochum. Dude, POAK made the biggest mistake of their life. He doesnt play good anymore. He was playing in Fenerbahce this season and he couldnt find a chance to play and the coach gave him a chance in Manchester Undited game and he made so many mistakes and we conceded 2 goals because of him. Of course after that in the middle of the season we sold him. Obvousily Bochum wasn't happy too. As a POAK fan, dont expect anything from him!

About the game, I think Turkey has better chance then Greece but you never know what would happen in a game like this. As prediction, I say Turkey will win 2-1 or 1-1 draw...


Well I must say I didn't know that, but lets give him a chance. Also it's good to see a Greek club avoiding political divisions and taking on a Turkish player. There should be much more of it. SPORT over politics is the go.

As for the Greece-Turkey game, it's going to be a cracker. I really can't predict a winner, but Turkey have the home advantage, but Greece are in a better position. I think it will be a real good game any which way and not easy for both sides to take three points.

Take care

[Turkhooligan]

,you know yesterday we tried to find any Greek but there was no :cool: ..Hmmm Braveheart Greeks.. :thumbsup:

[ARBANITAI]

,you know yesterday we tried to find any Greek but there was no :cool: ..Hmmm Braveheart Greeks.. :thumbsup:

turkhooligan keep searching maybe you find some one :D

[Emrah]

23.04.1948 Athens - Friendly 3 - 1
28.11.1948 Ä°stanbul - Friendly 2 - 1
15.05.1949 Athens - The Mediterranean Games 2 - 1
21.09.1988 Ä°stanbul - Friendly 3 - 1
29.03.1989 Athens - Friendly 1 - 0
08.09.2004 Athens - World Cup 2006 Group Match 0 - 0

you will never win again :rolling:

Turkey 4 eva! :thumbsup:

[ARBANITAI]

turkey won 5 games and greece only tie one !!

[aekgate21]

Greece never won a competative game before they went to portugal and look at what happened there we won the whole tournament so statististics does not really mean much to me but if you look at the club level record

PANATHINIAKOS 1 FENERBACHE 1
FENERBACHE 1 PANATHINIAKOS 4
AGG 5-2

OLYMPIAKOS 0 GALATASARAY 1
GALATASARAY 0 OLYMPIAKOS 3
AGG 3-1

GENCLERBIRLIGI 0 AIGEILEO 0
AIGELEO 1 GENCLERBIRLIGI 0
AGG 1-0


AND ALL THEASE RESULTS ARE WITHIN 2 YEARS WHICH ARE PREETY RECENT MOST OF THEM ARE CONVINCING VICTORIES WOULDN'T YOU AGREE :) :) :)

[PAO_HELLAS]

Greece never won a competative game before they went to portugal and look at what happened there we won the whole tournament so statististics does not really mean much to me but if you look at the club level record

PANATHINIAKOS 1 FENERBACHE 1
FENERBACHE 1 PANATHINIAKOS 4
AGG 5-2

OLYMPIAKOS 0 GALATASARAY 1
GALATASARAY 0 OLYMPIAKOS 3
AGG 3-1

GENCLERBIRLIGI 0 AIGEILEO 0
AIGELEO 1 GENCLERBIRLIGI 0
AGG 1-0


AND ALL THEASE RESULTS ARE WITHIN 2 YEARS WHICH ARE PREETY RECENT MOST OF THEM ARE CONVINCING VICTORIES WOULDN'T YOU AGREE :) :) :)

You forgot these are competive matches not friendlies :D.

[PAO_HELLAS]

Today is the game between the under23 teams at Ali Sami Yen.

The game is at 21.00 time of Greece, and will be broadcasted by alpha.

[SiN]

Today is the game between the under23 teams at Ali Sami Yen.

The game is at 21.00 time of Greece, and will be broadcasted by alpha.

turkeys younger squads have also been performing very well so i expect that we will win...

[PAO_HELLAS]

Charisteas: I want to score against Rustu

«I want to score against Rustu who is a very good and experienced goalkeeper; nevertheless, I believe I will.» Angelos Charisteas has stated on CNN Turk, adding: «Turkey are a very strong team with a full complete roster. They have no gaps in their lines, since there are players to cover every position. We are on a difficult mission. All Turkey players need to watch over but we have to pay special attention to Basturk. He is in excellent form and can create many problems to us. We also think about the atmosphere in the stadium. But I believe that the spirit of Fair-Play will prevail on the stands. It΄s going to be a thrilling match.»

from epo.gr

[PAO_HELLAS]

turkeys younger squads have also been performing very well so i expect that we will win...

About 10 minutes ago the game was 0-0 a little after the start of the second half. I am going back to living room to watch the rest :D.

[ARBANITAI]

About 10 minutes ago the game was 0-0 a little after the start of the second half. I am going back to living room to watch the rest :D.

So who won betwean u21 turkey - greece u21 ??

[OCFP]

So who won betwean u21 turkey - greece u21 ??


0-1 ELLLLLLAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Gennadios]

Greece U-21 won, 1-0.

But, im itching to see the senior level resultt

[OCFP]

Possibly the same happens tonight :heart:

[poutismalakas]

Greece U-21 won, 1-0.

But, im itching to see the senior level resultt
Hey from the look of your baby passport, are you sure your NOT a chick????? :rolling:

[TURK_TS]

Turkiye will take the 2ndplace no 2006 for you guys!!!

[Gennadios]

Hey from the look of your baby passport, are you sure your NOT a chick????? :rolling:
Nah man, I was just a beautiful baby. Everybody thought I was a girl when I was little.

[TURK_TS]

Goalkeepers
Rustu Recber...fenerbahce
Omer catkic...genclerbirligi
Volkan Demirel...fenerbahce

Defenders
Tolga Seyhan...Trabzonspor
Erdinc Yavuz...Trabzonspor
Umit Ozat...fenerbahce
Serkan Balci...fenerbahce
Cihan Haspolatli...galatasaray
Ibrahim Toraman...besiktas

Midfielders
Tuncay Sanli...fenerbahce
Sergat Akin...fenerbahce
huseyin Cimsir...Trabzonspor
Emre Belozoglu...Inter
Yildiray Basturk...Hertha Berlin
Gokdeniz Karadeniz...Trabzonspor
serhat Akin...fenerbahce
Ayhan Akman...galatasaray
Okan Buruk...besiktas
Koray Avci...besiktas
Guven Varol...denizlispor
Hamit Altintop...Schalke 04

Strikers
Fatih Tekke...Trabzonspor
Halil Altintop...Kaiserslautern
Necati Ates...galatasaray

[Gennadios]

Im guessing Hamit and Hamil Altintop are brothers?

[plato-ny]

Make us proud, Hellas!!!



"The sweetest fairy tale of our lives had the best ending," declared the Greek newspaper Sportime on the morning of 5 July 2004. The night before, Greece had been crowned champions of Europe and a whole country was celebrating a success that defied belief.
Otto Rehhagel's team of unsung players had captured the UEFA European Championship but even at their moment of glory, midfielder Stelios Giannakopoulos told reporters at Lisbon's Estadio da Luz that "the hard part of the story" would be "staying in the same place". For their exploits in Portugal to really mean something, Giannakopoulos said, they had to make sure they were "present at the next big event" - namely the FIFA World Cupâ„¢ in Germany next summer.

Instant credibility

To build on their success, it was vital that coach Otto Rehhagel remained and within days of their triumph, he had declined overtures from the German Football Association and confirmed he would stay on for another two years. If Rehhagel was the man of the moment, instant credibility was bestowed on his footballers too. Greece went into EURO 2004 with seven foreign-based players in their squad. Now that number stands at over 20, with Greek internationals playing in eight countries around Europe.

Of course, some have fared better than others in the year since EURO 2004. Traianos Dellas, the rock in Greece's defence, has struggled with injuries at Roma and will depart on a free transfer this summer. Those with more to smile about include Panagiotis Fyssas and Sotirios Kyrgiakos, league champions with Benfica and Rangers respectively, and Zisis Vryzas, who helped Celta win promotion in Spain. At home, Konstantinos Katsouranis, has excelled in AEK Athens' midfield and will have a key role to play in Saturday's key Group 2 qualifier in Turkey with captain Theodoros Zagorakis suspended.

'Respect from the opposition' Giannakopoulos himself has had a productive season, helping English side Bolton Wanderers qualify for the UEFA Cup for the first time and he believes EURO 2004 brought "at least 40 per cent" extra to his game. He tells FIFAworldcup.com: "I feel stronger, I feel more confident, I have more respect from the opposition. You can see it in the eyes of everybody around you - their behaviour in terms of what they feel about you and what they expect from you has changed a lot. It is a very, very good feeling."
It was not such a good feeling when Greece lost their first Germany 2006 qualifier away against Albania last September. Zagorakis claimed afterwards that "the team was not completely ready" but Giannokopoulos argues: "No matter what had happened at the EURO, the atmosphere and the passion and the aggression would have been the same. Albania always want to beat us."

If there was a post-Portugal hangover, the Greeks had to get it out of their systems and fast with a second fixture against Turkey following days later. A squad insider admits: "After that defeat the players understood they were on the edge and in four days they managed to sort themselves out." They may have only drawn with Turkey but there was no sense of panic.

After all, Greece lost their two opening qualifiers for EURO 2004 before winning six games in succession. That run ensured a deep-rooted confidence within the squad even before events in Portugal. And outside the camp, 'Rehhagel knows best' remained the prevailing attitude among the previously impatient Greek public.

Rehhagel has made few changes to the team who won in Portugal. Efstathios Tavlaridis' efforts for Lille, who finished second in France's Ligue 1, earned him a first call-up for this month's qualifiers but the only other new faces have been Giannis Amanatidis, Theofanis Gekas and Loukas Vintra. Instead the boys of summer 2004 have resumed their winning habit.

Greece have climbed to second place in Group 2, three points behind leaders Ukraine, after four straight victories. Further wins against Turkey and Ukraine this month could put them top of the section. And unlike in the past, this is now what is expected of them. Giannakopoulos says: "It is good because we are taken more seriously by the opposition, by the media, by the fans.

"Everyone wants to beat Greece and maybe the pressure that we have is better. Before the European Championship in Portugal nobody paid attention to the team and the expectations were not so high, but now everybody expects our team to do something."


Training sessions attract over 1,000 fans while the brand-new 33,000-capacity Giorgios Karaiskakis stadium is sold out for every home match. And whether the squad's popularity would withstand their failure to reach next summer's FIFA World Cup is a question Giannakopoulos insists will not need answering. The Greeks may be heading to the FIFA Confederations Cup in Germany this month but it is Germany 2006 that remains their focus.
"Of course we're going there soon for the Confederations Cup but we also want to go to the World Cup because it is the biggest experience a player can have in his career," he says. "But we have to give 100 per cent and perform well in our matches if we're going to get there. The particular goal is next summer, not this summer." Results over the next few days will go a long way to deciding if that goal is met.

[PAO_HELLAS]

Turkey U21-Hellas U21 0-1

Goal: Lagos 58'

76' : Tziolis sent off with second yellow card.

The road for the first team has opened :)...

[Turkhooligan]

Today we couldnt find any Greek again..Do you think where are they??WEe started to get bored.. :rolleyes:

[SiN]

Today we couldnt find any Greek again..Do you think where are they??WEe started to get bored.. :rolleyes:


hhahaha...they will neva turn up my frend...if they are they are hiding...LOL

[PAO_HELLAS]

Today we couldnt find any Greek again..Do you think where are they??WEe started to get bored.. :rolleyes:

Aren't any Greeks going to see the game? That is sad because so many Turks have came to the game at Pireas :silly:.

[SiN]

Aren't any Greeks going to see the game? That is sad because so many Turks have came to the game at Pireas :silly:.

iam sure greek fans will b there...its so close now...i cant wait...im so excitd

COME ON TURKEY!!

[PAO_HELLAS]

First half ended a few minutes ago. Turkey pressed a lot at the first 15 minutes, then the game continued wit hteams being equal. Greece had some good attacks at the last minutes of the first half. I am going for the second half now.

[Gennadios]

Man, its 88th minute, and still no goal.

I DON'T WANT A DRAWWWW!

[Gennadios]

0-0 Full time.

Darnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[poutismalakas]

So it is a Draw DAMN IT :mad: OH WELL
We'll WIN on the in the 8th!!!!!

[PAO_HELLAS]

0-0, well you can see this positive this was the most difficult game remained to us.

Did you saw the game? I can't believe these two lost chances, especially the post of Giannakopoulos.

I think the team needs a bit training in the tet-a-tets. They are doing a lot at the set-pieces like they do now :yawn: :D.

[Goki]

where did u guys watch it i just listened from the radio we should of won :dontcare:

[poutismalakas]

0-0, well you can see this positive this was the most difficult game remained to us.

Did you saw the game? I can't believe these two lost chances, especially the post of Giannakopoulos.

I think the team needs a bit training in the tet-a-tets. They are doing a lot at the set-pieces like they do now :yawn: :D.
DIDN'T SEE THE MATCH :boo: :mad2: I live in southern California the ONLY matches for free is Mexican, MLS and some English league soccer :boo: :boo:
I tried to get the Turkish guy owns my fav pizzaria to buy the match BUT he says it would be TOO much$$$ :boo: :boo:
I saw the a turkish player got a red card where the turks playing dirty??? or just too aggressive??

[PAO_HELLAS]

DIDN'T SEE THE MATCH :boo: :mad2: I live in southern California the ONLY matches for free is Mexican, MLS and some English league soccer :boo: :boo:
I tried to get the Turkish guy owns my fav pizzaria to buy the match BUT he says it would be TOO much$$$ :boo: :boo:
I saw the a turkish player got a red card where the turks playing dirty??? or just too aggressive??

:robot: Man, I understand completely how you feel I know how I feel when I am not going to see this kind of matches....

Basturk received a second yellow card because he handballed, the first one was by foul. At the start of the game Turkey played with a lot of passion as I said but their game wasn't dirty at all.

where did u guys watch it i just listened from the radio we should of won

What do you mean? I watched it on ALPHA chanel.

[plato-ny]

Its a good result for us. Turkey, which kept boasting about their attack style, scored no goals in 2 games against us. That post at the 54th minute...!!! I dont understand why some of you think its a bad result. The result is much worse for Turkey than it is for us and they are our main competition for second place. I dont expect Greece to get first place based on schedule comparison to Ukraine's but we are still in good shape.

Now, we must beat Ukraine to hold our lead...

[OCFP]

Very good result, Cali man thats sux i live in NY and I see everything here but yea we didn't play excellent but got the draw which is what we needed. Greece 1 huge step closer to Germany.

[go!ua]

0-0 Full time.

Darnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
0-0 Full time

Yessssssssssssssssss :thumbsup: :):):)

[lastdon]

here we are trying to get two countries to be friendly to eachother

and then we have turkey wanting to come into the EU..

what happend to the security during the game?
how can these like this be let in?

http://www.sport24.gr/ast/cov/tu/turhel3_b.jpg
http://www.sport24.gr/ast/cov/tu/turhel2_2005_6_4_22_13_7_b.jpg
http://www.sport24.gr/ast/cov/tu/turhel4_b.jpg

what kinda of b.s is this?

will this get deleted by a mod? maybe why cause no one wants to see the truth.
I won't delete this cause this was part of the game!

[poutismalakas]

0-0 Full time

Yessssssssssssssssss :thumbsup: :):):)
MY friend Ukraine is SO DEAD come the 8th my prediction Greece 2- Ukraine 1 :rolling: :rolling:

[philipas]

Today we couldnt find any Greek again..Do you think where are they??WEe started to get bored.. :rolleyes:


Go away little boy! Why don't you take up oil wrestling, so you can put your hand down your opponents pants. I bet you'd like that.

[philipas]

here we are trying to get two countries to be friendly to eachother

and then we have turkey wanting to come into the EU..

what happend to the security during the game?
how can these like this be let in?

http://www.sport24.gr/ast/cov/tu/turhel3_b.jpg
http://www.sport24.gr/ast/cov/tu/turhel2_2005_6_4_22_13_7_b.jpg
http://www.sport24.gr/ast/cov/tu/turhel4_b.jpg

what kinda of b.s is this?

will this get deleted by a mod? maybe why cause no one wants to see the truth.
I won't delete this cause this was part of the game!

lol...gee didn't see any such politically provocative banners like that in Piraeus. It's people like that who are preventing Turkey joining the EU and like the Northern Cypriots say; we're not Greeks, we're not Turks, we're Cypriots. These people are keeping Northen Cypriots in isolation and poverty, no wonder they want to distance themselves from being called Turkish.

[philipas]

Greece has virtually SLAMMED THE DOOR SHUT ON TURKEY!
Interesting writeup: http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/050604/1/3sib.html

[SiN]

oh god..greece playd like shit as we all know they are...turkey had most of the position, most oppurtunities, man we hit the post like 5 times, the greeks are sooo lucky we cud have won so easily all of those shots cud have gone in...the ref was a gay poofta...

[philipas]

oh god..greece playd like shit as we all know they are...turkey had most of the position, most oppurtunities, man we hit the post like 5 times, the greeks are sooo lucky we cud have won so easily all of those shots cud have gone in...the ref was a gay poofta...

LOL...Well that's what you think but the pundits said otherwise. You obviously didn't read the link I posted. Your comments smack of jealosy.
Now, you don't think Turkey can qualify now, after that menial effort, with two of Greece's best players out.
Stick to oily wrestling, that may satisfy your 'gay poofta' agenda.
Now for being such a spoil sport I want you to write 500 times:
Greece are the EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS and I will refer to them as such UNTIL THE YEAR 20081lol...lol...lol...

Seeya wouldn't want to beya!

[Fener_05]

Turkey is a better team than Greece and you all know.
Turkey had a missing link in their team, which is a stricker (Nihat). If he were there he would of been the target man and he would of scored. I don't know why Serhat didn't play either, he was in form too.

Anyway good luck on wednesday!

[SiN]

Turkey is a better team than Greece and you all know.
Turkey had a missing link in their team, which is a stricker (Nihat). If he were there he would of been the target man and he would of scored. I don't know why Serhat didn't play either, he was in form too.

Anyway good luck on wednesday!

yer u tell em Fener 05...
we playd better than u...most of the possesion...how many chances did u guys have on goal...1? that one where u shot and hit the upper post...wow...well done..u couldint even string a few measly passes together...if u guys were sooo good and deservd the european championshit why didnt uz proove it and beat us...u cant score more than 2 goals in any match...we are not provoking u just voicing our opinoins coz we have been pushd far enuf...we are not jealous...jealous of wat? what is there to be jealous of?

im glad u guys won the euro cup! i really am...good on uz...but come back to reality...turkey plays exciting football...sum of the passing moves by yilidray, emre and hamit in that game was soo impressive...we controlld the ball...we are a strong team and we are not out of the competition...only 2 points behind uz and if u slip up against urkrain and we win against kazak which we will cing as we beat them 4-0 last time, we will overtake uz by 1 point...

peace..

[PAO_HELLAS]

lol...gee didn't see any such politically provocative banners like that in Piraeus. It's people like that who are preventing Turkey joining the EU and like the Northern Cypriots say; we're not Greeks, we're not Turks, we're Cypriots. These people are keeping Northen Cypriots in isolation and poverty, no wonder they want to distance themselves from being called Turkish.

Greeks who tried to pass provocative banners in the stadium at Pireas game, were not allowed by the police. Even a banner of Kolokotronis was not allowed to be taked in.

[PAO_HELLAS]

yer u tell em Fener 05...
we playd better than u...most of the possesion...how many chances did u guys have on goal...1? ..

It is true that at the second half Turkey controlled the game, but you hadn't a chance like the two great chances we had. (With Giannakopoulos and Lakis). Lakis had a long time to play and his bad form was visible. If a Turk had this chance he would score.

[PAO_HELLAS]

Turkey is a better team than Greece and you all know.
Turkey had a missing link in their team, which is a stricker (Nihat). If he were there he would of been the target man and he would of scored. I don't know why Serhat didn't play either, he was in form too.

Anyway good luck on wednesday!

Can you explain us who exactly knows that Turkey is a better team than Greece? OK, you are one of the best team in Eastern Europe but you need still some time to reach us. And we were missing too, 2 of our best players Zagorakis and Dellas.

[Karadjordje]

Can you explain us who exactly knows that Turkey is a better team than Greece? OK, you are one of the best team in Eastern Europe but you need still some time to reach us. And we were missing too, 2 of our best players Zagorakis and Dellas.


Im suprised they couldnt beat your team while you were missing them. lol shows how good your defence is. :thumbsup:

[lastdon]

Yep I think if Zagorakis and Dellas were on the field i think the results would of been different in greece's favour..

greece might of been playing defence but only at our side of the field we were not playing man to man coverage like turkey.. three four players like on charisteas etc..

[Panellinios]

i gotta hand it to Turkey man, they played real well. especialy Tuncay, dude is a secret weapon or something. we did have out chances hitting the crossbar and all that, but overall, the game was all Turkey. first ones to the ball with a Greek player coming in too late to challenge cause the ball was gone already. and our first touch was horrible. everytime we made a pass, the receiver's first touch to control the ball was bad. the Turks were all over them by the time they made their 2nd touch.

i hand it to Turkey, u guys played a great game.

P.S. u babies can all argue about banners and some fans, altho i agree that stuff is not classy, but the game is in the field and that's we should all talk about. it's 22 guys on a field chasing a ball, not shooting at each other trying to kill the opposition, so keep it at soccer!!!

[Fener_05]

i gotta hand it to Turkey man, they played real well. especialy Tuncay, dude is a secret weapon or something. we did have out chances hitting the crossbar and all that, but overall, the game was all Turkey. first ones to the ball with a Greek player coming in too late to challenge cause the ball was gone already. and our first touch was horrible. everytime we made a pass, the receiver's first touch to control the ball was bad. the Turks were all over them by the time they made their 2nd touch.

i hand it to Turkey, u guys played a great game.

P.S. u babies can all argue about banners and some fans, altho i agree that stuff is not classy, but the game is in the field and that's we should all talk about. it's 22 guys on a field chasing a ball, not shooting at each other trying to kill the opposition, so keep it at soccer!!!
There you go PAO_HELLAS, theres my point. From a greek view also.
What im trying to say is that Turkey didn't have a good stricker in that game, as you can see we got past your defence but couldn't finish. So if we had Nihat, who can finish really good we would of scored.

We controled the whole game, you attacked maybe twice by counter attacks. How comes you played defencely, why didn't you play normal because you knew that if you didn't play defencely then we would of had more chances at goal.

AND thank you Panellinios, for expressing your true feelings. :thumbsup: Instead of Pao. :boo:

[OCFP]

yer u tell em Fener 05...
we playd better than u...most of the possesion...how many chances did u guys have on goal...1? that one where u shot and hit the upper post...wow...well done..u couldint even string a few measly passes together...if u guys were sooo good and deservd the european championshit why didnt uz proove it and beat us...u cant score more than 2 goals in any match...we are not provoking u just voicing our opinoins coz we have been pushd far enuf...we are not jealous...jealous of wat? what is there to be jealous of?

im glad u guys won the euro cup! i really am...good on uz...but come back to reality...turkey plays exciting football...sum of the passing moves by yilidray, emre and hamit in that game was soo impressive...we controlld the ball...we are a strong team and we are not out of the competition...only 2 points behind uz and if u slip up against urkrain and we win against kazak which we will cing as we beat them 4-0 last time, we will overtake uz by 1 point...

peace..


EXCELLENT FOOTBALL ISN'T LOSING 3-1 TO UKRAINE AT HOME. WE HAD ARGUABLE OUR BEST DEFENDER OUT "DELLAS" AND BEST PLAYER "ZAGORAKIS" AND YOU STILL COULDN'T SCORE.

[poutismalakas]

EXCELLENT FOOTBALL ISN'T LOSING 3-1 TO UKRAINE AT HOME. WE HAD ARGUABLE OUR BEST DEFENDER OUT "DELLAS" AND BEST PLAYER "ZAGORAKIS" AND YOU STILL COULDN'T SCORE.
You have a POINT there
WOULDA, COULDA, SHOULDA!!!! :cry: :cry: :cry:
The game IS OVER and Turkey couldn't score!
BOTH Greece and Turkey need to worry about the Ukraine NOW and nOT each other!

[Savicevic]

You have a POINT there
WOULDA, COULDA, SHOULDA!!!! :cry: :cry: :cry:
The game IS OVER and Turkey couldn't score!
BOTH Greece and Turkey need to worry about the Ukraine NOW and nOT each other!


Are you guys gonna close this thread because all it really did was make braggers shut their mouths at the end of the game.. :D


But good job Hellas, you fought hard i heard and you had the upper hand.



Cheers :thumbsup:

[poutismalakas]

Are you guys gonna close this thread because all it really did was make braggers shut their mouths at the end of the game.. :D


But good job Hellas, you fought hard i heard and you had the upper hand.



Cheers :thumbsup:
I am leaving it up to pao on weither or not this thread will be closed? That is unless fighting starts because of this thread?

[MegaPrime]

This result wasn't the worst but it was bad for us. We should have finished them off once and for all. We just gave ukraine qualification to the World Cup.

If latvia can beat turkey then we should have done the same. We played too defensively and that's why we didn't generate many scoring chances. A hadfull of players didn't play well for us either, specifically our forwards. We'll have to wait for another oppurtunity to prove that we are better than them.

[plato-ny]

man we hit the post like 5 times

??? Can anybody justify this fictional sentence ???

Sour grapes!!! 2 games against us = no goals. Your "high powered offense" could not score on us...again. Defense wins championships!!!

[OCFP]

-edited-

[aekgate21]

I think everyone is missing the point that rehaggel objective is to get 4 points from thease two games and by the looks of it he is on course.

Of course greece played defensively and in a way i expected that. We were missing two of our best players zagorakis was a big loss and i actually consider him a better player than nihat. Even if turkey had nihat and we had
our two best players i can honestly say we would have won.

What the turks really need to ask themselves is can not cope with pressure too easily and i think greece is starting to cope with being european champions a little better. Here are some examples.

when turkey needed to beat england to automatically qualify for euro 2004 they drew when they needed to win, and we all know what happened with latvia. there home record in this qualifing for 2006 is 2wins 2draws and 1 3-0 drumming by ukraine, and thats nothing to be proud of, and here they are telling us that they are better than us. Please dont embarrese yourselves if cant beat us with our two best players out i dont think you ever will. And furthermore i am interested to see how turkey will fare against ukraine away now thats going to be interesting because to be quite honest i cant see winning that game.

The draw is better for us we are 2 ponits clear and we are still second its time to deal with reality instead of whinging all the time.

[lastdon]

something i found on the net..
not sure if this seems right..
with is to do with the GAME BY THE WAY

:shocked:

http://img244.echo.cx/img244/3222/***kgreece4gz.jpg

letters that are missing are f... u... c ..

[SiN]

i gotta hand it to Turkey man, they played real well. especialy Tuncay, dude is a secret weapon or something. we did have out chances hitting the crossbar and all that, but overall, the game was all Turkey. first ones to the ball with a Greek player coming in too late to challenge cause the ball was gone already. and our first touch was horrible. everytime we made a pass, the receiver's first touch to control the ball was bad. the Turks were all over them by the time they made their 2nd touch.

i hand it to Turkey, u guys played a great game.

P.S. u babies can all argue about banners and some fans, altho i agree that stuff is not classy, but the game is in the field and that's we should all talk about. it's 22 guys on a field chasing a ball, not shooting at each other trying to kill the opposition, so keep it at soccer!!!

thank-you panellinios your comments come as a relief to most right minded people in this forum..we shud forget the past..but unfortunatly sum peopl cant...and Hellas it is tru that u guys were missin ur best players but we were also missing our best players...Nihat and Hakan Sukur for staters...Ersun Yanal (turkish coach) mad some wise choices about the starting 11 and the subs that followd but he also was neglagent to inlcude these star players...we cud have easily won and u know it...

peace

[SiN]

??? Can anybody justify this fictional sentence ???

Sour grapes!!! 2 games against us = no goals. Your "high powered offense" could not score on us...again. Defense wins championships!!!

i dont see u guys coring any goals..wen did uz have a chance??...all ur defence did was shove their 4 or 5 denfenders in the box and smother every shot that came from a turk...

[SiN]

edited

[lastdon]

Won?
I dont think so

U can't depend on four players or three to win..

We shut down
FIGO
RONALDO
ZIDANE
HENRI
SOME OF THE CHECZ TEAM some stars there
SPAIN..

the greeks have shut these big start players and teams
and the truth ..
I bet greece Could of beaten Turkey.

And the truth 60% possession second half for turkey and NOT one goal.. how could of EASILY u guys won then?
if u can't score with that much possession .. something is going right for the greeks

and that is their DEFENCE

[Fener_05]

Look, it's fine by me. You lot keep playing with this denfence mentality then one day when luck doesn't come your way, you'd realise that football isn't played like this.
Say your in a world cup final, how are you gonna play.....denfencively, let it go to penalties, what?

[SiN]

Look, it's fine by me. You lot keep playing with this denfence mentality then one day when luck doesn't come your way, you'd realise that football isn't played like this.
Say your in a world cup final, how are you gonna play.....denfencively, let it go to penalties, what?

i kno they cant even score more than 2 goals a game.. :evil:

[ARBANITAI]

i kno they cant even score more than 2 goals a game.. :evil:

I was disapointed about turkey I find turkey a better team than i thought they will win..but even though thats right about greece even in euro04 their score was allways 1-0 :rolleyes:...

[PAO_HELLAS]

There you go PAO_HELLAS, theres my point. From a greek view also.
What im trying to say is that Turkey didn't have a good stricker in that game, as you can see we got past your defence but couldn't finish. So if we had Nihat, who can finish really good we would of scored.

We controled the whole game, you attacked maybe twice by counter attacks. How comes you played defencely, why didn't you play normal because you knew that if you didn't play defencely then we would of had more chances at goal.

AND thank you Panellinios, for expressing your true feelings. :thumbsup: Instead of Pao. :boo:

Do you read my posts? Did I say that Turkey was bad in this game? I said that you controlled the game but you hadn't a chance like these two we had.

But when you say ''Turkey is a better team than Greece and you all know.'', you remind me joung kids that fight about football.

[BUCEPHALUS]

Look, it's fine by me. You lot keep playing with this denfence mentality then one day when luck doesn't come your way, you'd realise that football isn't played like this.
Say your in a world cup final, how are you gonna play.....denfencively, let it go to penalties, what?

WE WILL CONTINUE TO PLAY THE WAY WE LIKE.

We have the best defence in the world and we will use that to our advantage.

As far as your comment about luck,it goes to shopw HOW JEALOUS YOU LITTLE TURKS REALLY ARE.

In case you havent noticed tourkalaki we are EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS,something Turkey have never been or can never hope of being.

You should be honored to get a draw against EUROPES CHAMPIONS.

Oh and about your banner on Cyprus,Its great to see the Greek part of CYPRUS UNITED WITH GREECE IN EUROPE while the turk side remains poverty stricken,isnt it???? :ronaldo: :ronaldo: :ronaldo: :ronaldo: :ronaldo:

Hellas-cypros-enosi has already happened and theres nothing you can do..

[plato-ny]

i dont see u guys coring any goals..wen did uz have a chance??...all ur defence did was shove their 4 or 5 denfenders in the box and smother every shot that came from a turk...

Our rep is defense, not offense. Turkey kept bragging about their offense. No goals in 2 games against Greece's defense.

In the game, Greece had the best scoring chances with the post and the tet-a-tet at the 78th minute. You had the ball for so long yet you couldnt score. Greece's defense shut down Turkey offense again.

[plato-ny]

I was disapointed about turkey I find turkey a better team than i thought they will win..but even though thats right about greece even in euro04 their score was allways 1-0 :rolleyes:...

Why are you criticizing our euro 2004 triumph? Greece defeated Portugal 2-1 and tied Spain 1-1? Always 1-0?! Albania has NEVER qualified for anything ever. At least, Turkey has had recent success and they can brag about it. But what does the Albanian national team have to brag about?

[ARBANITAI]

Why are you criticizing our euro 2004 triumph? Greece defeated Portugal 2-1 and tied Spain 1-1? Always 1-0?! Albania has NEVER qualified for anything ever. At least, Turkey has had recent success and they can brag about it. But what does the Albanian national team have to brag about?

same to greece... greece was never good at football Turkey allways was much better in football than Greece and Albania i saw the GAMES between turkey vs Greece turks won 6-7 games you only won One so u were so law in football before you were just like Albania we beat you home you beat us back !!!in 2004 you qualifed and even won 2004 cup thats suprise thats good job by greece im happy for u...Albania didnt qulify but we are trying like u for years and who know maybe next time we qualify and even won an eurocup or something u never know nothing is impossible Albania is doing much better in football last ten years so we are no more chance less...

[plato-ny]

same to greece... greece was never good at football Turkey allways was much better in football than Greece and Albania i saw the GAMES between turkey vs Greece turks won 6-7 games you only won One so u were so law in football before you were just like Albania

Turkey and Greece played 2 official matches. both 0-0 ties. The other games were meaningless friendly matches. Dont tell me you actually count those??? You watched all those friendly matches??? Just to root against Greece???

Greek soccer was just like Albania??? Greece, before euro 2004, were in the Euro 1980 and WC 2004, better than albania. Our clubs in the Euro tournamnents have done much better than the Albanian clubs. The Albanian clubs have never even been to a quarterfinal phase.

http://www.sport.gr/football/wc2006/050604/turgre3.asp

[ARBANITAI]

Turkey and Greece played 2 official matches. both 0-0 ties. The other games were meaningless friendly matches. Dont tell me you actually count those??? You watched all those friendly matches??? Just to root against Greece???



Friendly games are games too and ofcourse I count on them everyone doez im not Rooting anything against greece actually i dont have anything against greece but it seems u have so much to talk against albania..
Greece was not better than albania in soccer thats a fact even you won euroCup u lost to us.. LEts forget about this my friend I know we have so much to talk and wer not getting anywhere with it.. :)

Peace out :thumbsup:

[PAO_HELLAS]

Friendly games are games too and ofcourse I count on them everyone doez im not Rooting anything against greece actually i dont have anything against greece but it seems u have so much to talk against albania..
Greece was not better than albania in soccer thats a fact even you won euroCup u lost to us.. LEts forget about this my friend I know we have so much to talk and wer not getting anywhere with it.. :)

Peace out :thumbsup:

Albania and Russia are the only teams Greece lost to the last 2 years or maybe 3. Albania must be the best team in Europe then :).

[ARBANITAI]

Albania and Russia are the only teams Greece lost to the last 2 years or maybe 3. Albania must be the best team in Europe then :).

Hehe Pao anyway thanx Man :silly: When did you Lose to Russia ??

[PAO_HELLAS]

Hehe Pao anyway thanx Man :silly: When did you Lose to Russia ??

At Euro 2004 group phase we lost to Russia 2-1.

[Fener_05]

Listen People, you'll soon realise that football shouldn't be played like this and luck won't always be in your favour. And when that day comes, please think of me.

[PAO_HELLAS]

hehe :)

[Fener_05]

Yep:D

[plato-ny]

Listen People, you'll soon realise that football shouldn't be played like this and luck won't always be in your favour. And when that day comes, please think of me.

Its helped us so far...good teams create their own luck...it takes skill to play solid defense...otherwise, everybody would be doing it, but they cant do it like Greece right now...

[lastdon]

The Point of Football is to score goals, and NOT to allow any on ur net..

Football is not just a scoring game .. ..

to BUILD a solid defence is not an easy task to do, as even to build an offence.

U have seen high scoring games when the defence sucks and they can't defend

IF football was not about defence as well, then there should be not defending done, and the goalie should be the GOALIE/DEFENDER as he would be the only one to do the defending and goal keeping.

MANY teams in the euro 2004 just scored 1 goal or enough to WIN and sat back in defence. and this HAS been doing for centuries..

i'd rather see the whole team work as a team to make their team come out on top

then 7-0 games

[lastdon]

Its helped us so far...good teams create their own luck...it takes skill to play solid defense...otherwise, everybody would be doing it, but they cant do it like Greece right now...

exactly man

u can't just throw a few guys and hope they defend

IT takes chemistry. skill, etc etc. Greece in world cup in the USA didn't score a goal but got scored on cause we lacked a defence and offence

OTTO has built that for us

a SOLID DEFENCE and an offence to score enough to win

THAT is all that matters

[lastdon]

unless u guys want to see 14-20 scoring games

that's just dumb..

[SiN]

Scoreless draw satisfies no one
Saturday, 4 June 2005
Greece achieved a well earned goalless draw away in Turkey's Inönü stadium in FIFA World Cup qualifying, in the process keeping two points ahead of their rivals in second place in Group 2.



Greece's Michail Kapsis (left) tries to control under pressure from Gökdeniz Karadeniz


Missed opportunities
Both sides had sufficient opportunities to break the deadlock, with Bolton Wanderers FC midfield player Stelios Giannakopoulos coming the closest when he hit the Turkish upright, while Tuncay Sanli went close for the hosts late on.

Zagorakis missed
Ersun Yanal's side looked the more promising of the two teams at the start, with Emre Belözoglu firing into the side-netting inside two minutes after his initial strike had been parried by Greece custodian Antonios Nikopolidis. The UEFA EURO 2004™ winners appeared to be struggling in the absence of suspended captain Theo Zagorakis, as the home team dominated the first half and should have been rewarded with the lead two minutes into the second period. Fatih Tekke found himself unmarked in the Greek box only to send his header straight at the goalkeeper.

Woodwork scare
Turkey goalkeeper Rüstü Reçber had been reduced to a virtual spectator in the first half, but he was given a scare on 54 minutes when Angelos Charisteas squared the ball to Giannakopoulos in a rare Greek breakaway, but the Bolton player's effort smashed against the crossbar. The chance seemed to revitalise Otto Rehhagel's men, with Rüstu forced into action a minute later to turn away a low drive from Georgios Karagounis.

Bastürk dismissed
The latter stages of the game saw chances for both sides to snatch what would have been three valuable points. Substitute Tuncay unleashed a first-time shot that flew just wide of the motionless Nikopolidis, while for Greece Vassilios Lakis miscontrolled a through-ball with 12 minutes remaining after being put through on goal by Charisteas, and his ensuing lob was easily dealt with by the Turkish defence. The home team were reduced to ten men in the last minute when Yildiray Bastürk was sent off for a second bookable offence, as the game ended all-square.

Wednesday meeting
The result means Turkey remain two points adrift of Greece who occupy second place. However, both sides have now fallen further behind leaders Ukraine, who defeated Kazakhstan 2-0 to open up a five-point lead. Greece have the chance to reduce that deficit when they play host to the Group 2 leaders in Athens on Wednesday.

[SiN]

unless u guys want to see 14-20 scoring games

that's just dumb..

congrats on ur 300th post mate! well done

[plato-ny]

http://www.uefa.com/fanzone/polls/index.htmx

This link shows that the UEFA poll site was hacked by a Turkish hacker.

What a disgrace!!!

[PAO_HELLAS]

http://www.uefa.com/fanzone/polls/index.htmx

This link shows that the UEFA poll site was hacked by a Turkish hacker.

What a disgrace!!!

Did you saw something unusual at this link? It is maybe fixed now.

[aekgate21]

Greece has never scored more than goal to win games, haha ;) but i do remeber greece beating Kazakhstan 3-1 in athens not too long ago

Our losses in the last 2.75 years have been 2 and thats not including friendlies that some people consider to be of importance.

Furthermore if we look at club level in the last 2 years the record between the countries have been

Galatasaray 1 Olympiakos 0
Olympiakos 3 Galatasaray 0
AGG 3-1

Panathiniakos 4-1 Fenerbache
Fenerbache 1-1 Panathiniakos
AGG 5-2

Genclerbirligi 0-0 Egaleo
Egaleo 1-0 Genclerbirligi

AGG 1-0
Preety impressive dont you think and they were not friendlies either. Also what did you think of the under 21's beating turkey 1-0 on home soil. Any comments.

[PAO_HELLAS]

It was not only the game with Kazakhstan that we scored more than one goal. It was too with Georgia, Albania, Denmark etc.

And a correction the Genclerbiligi-Egaleo match was 1-1 I think.

[Fener_05]

Oh my dear lord, so you can score more than 1 goal BUT against Georgia, Albania, Denmark. Well Done.:D

@Laston, I understand what your saying but football shouldn't be played only with defence. It should be played with attacking too. Where was that in Turkey apart from the 3 counter-attacks you done.

[lastdon]

congrats on ur 300th post mate! well done


thanks man i didn't even notice !

[lastdon]

Oh my dear lord, so you can score more than 1 goal BUT against Georgia, Albania, Denmark. Well Done.:D

@Laston, I understand what your saying but football shouldn't be played only with defence. It should be played with attacking too. Where was that in Turkey apart from the 3 counter-attacks you done.

yeh man dont get me wrong

Even at the club we saw that game at, I know that turkey out did greece I ain't afraid to admit that.

first half i think it close on each end. though Second half turkey dominated..

but the truth to be said what the Heck was greece supposed to do?? just sit back and not defend

It just shows that greece has good defence.

they were caught of their heals

[aekgate21]

We can go on, on what might have happened at the end of the day turkey may have dominated the second half, but thier chances were not as clear cut as ours. And for the 10th time we were missing some key players which also had a big impact on our playing style, thats why we are happy with the draw, and most of the turkish public are asking for yunal resignation, because all the games at home are supposed to be won not drawn. Lets how yous play against ukraine away now that will be interesting. ;)

[go!ua]

Its helped us so far...good teams create their own luck...it takes skill to play solid defense...otherwise, everybody would be doing it, but they cant do it like Greece right now...
:D

[bitsakos]

I was disapointed about turkey I find turkey a better team than i thought they will win..but even though thats right about greece even in euro04 their score was allways 1-0 :rolleyes:...
Damn that's it. I heard this too many times now!
...In CL when juventus won FIVE games 1-0 ..oh "it was a sign of high class soccer. oh they really know how to win blah blah blah. Then Greece win THREE 1-0's in portugal and the whole world is crying about it. ...being too defensive. What iss this?? what's the difference. Why is it oh so beautiful come ant tell me when juventus, or any italian side for that matter, win 1-0?

yea that's what i thought

[plato-ny]

...In CL when juventus won FIVE games 1-0 ..oh "it was a sign of high class soccer. oh they really know how to win blah blah blah. Then Greece win THREE 1-0's in portugal and the whole world is crying about it. ...being too defensive. What iss this?? what's the difference. Why is it oh so beautiful come ant tell me when juventus, or any italian side for that matter, win 1-0?

yea that's what i thought

The Italians and Germans are known for playing defense but they dont criticized for it. Because we are not a "big" team, therefore, we get criticized for it

[Refeto]

To be honest guys, I dont critize it but as a person I love attacking football and hate defensive football but I always said that if you win a game like that, you should play like that. Turkey is used know by their creative mid-field and so so forward and bad defence. But know attackers are geing better still good and creative mid-field only thing we have to approve is our defence. So, Im sure Greece slowly will improve on their attacks and mid-field so they dont have to play defensive. But currently they have to because if they play attacking they are screwed! Thats what I saw from the games that I watched.

[Fener_05]

Same here buddy, Greece can't play attacking and defence at the same time. Only Defence.

[Wolfsblood]

WE WILL CONTINUE TO PLAY THE WAY WE LIKE.

We have the best defence in the world and we will use that to our advantage.

As far as your comment about luck,it goes to shopw HOW JEALOUS YOU LITTLE TURKS REALLY ARE.

In case you havent noticed tourkalaki we are EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS,something Turkey have never been or can never hope of being.

You should be honored to get a draw against EUROPES CHAMPIONS.

Oh and about your banner on Cyprus,Its great to see the Greek part of CYPRUS UNITED WITH GREECE IN EUROPE while the turk side remains poverty stricken,isnt it???? :ronaldo: :ronaldo: :ronaldo: :ronaldo: :ronaldo:

Hellas-cypros-enosi has already happened and theres nothing you can do..

ok one you dont have the best defence in the world, if anyone does its the italians, you didnt win the world cup, you won the European cup, so you could say maybe best in Europe.
But that mentality would make us the the third best team in the world :)

actually, if Greece can win the Euro cup, im sure we would have no problem in believing that we could lift the world cup :)

and please remember that Greece has NEVER EVER EVER beaten Turkey in any international game. Go do your history.

Enosis with cyprus will never happen, keep dreaming, Northen Cyprus will remain Turkish, nothing you can do about it !!! we dont care if you are rich, Turks have the most beautiful side of the island and rememeber as we say "Stay pure, stay poor, less is more"

[Wolfsblood]

The Italians and Germans are known for playing defense but they dont criticized for it. Because we are not a "big" team, therefore, we get criticized for it

actually the italians get criticised for it all the time, they also play boring football.

its just that they have won so much more than greek teams that people seem to overlook it nowadays.

[philipas]

Same here buddy, Greece can't play attacking and defence at the same time. Only Defence.

That's a contradiction in terms. You have to play defence and attack (goals) at the same time, to win. You know, like we all know Greece did with their amazing success in Portugal . Something that you and your other jealous friends cannot get over.

Qualifiers and singular games are one thing, but having the silverware is what matters in the end, because that's what all these games are for. Greece can claim prestigious silverware FOREVER, as their name is etched on the cup, YEAH BABY!......So show them the respect they deserve, we would if Turkey ever won a prestigious tournament.
I just feel so fortunate that it happened in my lifetime. If only you could experience national victory...ahhh alas. :D :D :D It's a feeling beyond description. Perhaps your great grandchildren will???

It isn't over yet for Greece - in fact it's more exciting if you ask me, because it's going to be a real tussle for second place.
Ukraine on their ground isn't going to be a walk in the park and you have to do better than getting smashed 3-0 on home ground. The game could decide the points for second place. :smoking:

Take care

[Fener_05]

Well you still have Denmark away, so who knows.

[Refeto]

That's a contradiction in terms. You have to play defence and attack (goals) at the same time, to win. You know, like we all know Greece did with their amazing success in Portugal . Something that you and your other jealous friends cannot get over.

Qualifiers and singular games are one thing, but having the silverware is what matters in the end, because that's what all these games are for. Greece can claim prestigious silverware FOREVER, as their name is etched on the cup, YEAH BABY!......So show them the respect they deserve, we would if Turkey ever won a prestigious tournament.
I just feel so fortunate that it happened in my lifetime. If only you could experience national victory...ahhh alas. :D :D :D It's a feeling beyond description. Perhaps your great grandchildren will???

It isn't over yet for Greece - in fact it's more exciting if you ask me, because it's going to be a real tussle for second place.
Ukraine on their ground isn't going to be a walk in the park and you have to do better than getting smashed 3-0 on home ground. The game could decide the points for second place. :smoking:

Take care
We are no jealous about your cup, all Im saying its boring but if thats the way you can win, you should play that way. I just told you guys my personal thought about defensive football and Fener05 agreed with me.

Another thing is I have never compare the Turkish NT in 2002 with the NT right now. There is only 2-3 players remaining. Thats why I have never said anything bad about Turkish NT because they fairly young team even he coach. So I think ppl should little fear becasue if you are having a draw with our new team as a Europea champions and this team is still giving you a hard time, if this team can win the bronze medal in Confederation Cup in France that means there is something big coming up. Plus you see the 88 generation being a European champions. Now sit down and think about it.

Nobody is jealous about Greece. FOR THE 100th TIMES CONGURATS! You guys think this as a one general. If you guys know little bit football or if you guys think logic you could see what Im saying.

PS: This is not a pick a fight post, I just wanted clear things up and I did not post this because Im mad or anything!!!!!

[plato-ny]

ok one you dont have the best defence in the world, if anyone does its the italians, you didnt win the world cup, you won the European cup, so you could say maybe best in Europe.
But that mentality would make us the the third best team in the world :)

actually, if Greece can win the Euro cup, im sure we would have no problem in believing that we could lift the world cup :)

and please remember that Greece has NEVER EVER EVER beaten Turkey in any international game. Go do your history.



The third best team in the world got knocked out by Latvia a year ago.

Lift the World Cup? If you play against Senegal, Costa Rica, and the Asian teams, sure its possible!!!

Turkey and Greece played in only 2 matches. The rest were meaningless friendlies...

[OCFP]

Fener fans why dont u see any Galatas fans in here who outnumbers who fan wise?? And no reason to fight about whos qualifing it can go either way and there is nothing a greek or a turkey can say to disagree with that. We had a must win on wednesday and didn't do. it not being a bad team but just bad luck and I believe some bad referee calls but what can you do. till September.

[SiN]

im a gala fan :rolling:

[Wolfsblood]

The third best team in the world got knocked out by Latvia a year ago.

Lift the World Cup? If you play against Senegal, Costa Rica, and the Asian teams, sure its possible!!!

Turkey and Greece played in only 2 matches. The rest were meaningless friendlies...

yeah and the "champions of Europe" got beaten by Albania, couldnt score against us, and are now looking like they wont qualify for the world cup (maybe:))

as far as i remember Senegal were and still are a fantastic team, they are pretty much the French B team. Anyways

one last thing, ANY football game between Greece and Turkey is and never could be "meaningless" if you really think so i feel sorry for you :-

23 April 1948 - Turkey win 1 - 3 against Greece in Athens, with 2 goals from legendary Turkish striker Lefter Kücükyonadis who yes was of Orthodox origin. 2 fanatik Greek fans commit suicide off the acropolis as a result. Go look it up in the papers if you dont believe me. This was the extent of the passion that ran through those matches.

Its good to know your history.

[soccerates]

The Italians and Germans are known for playing defense but they dont criticized for it. Because we are not a "big" team, therefore, we get criticized for it

Actually Italy are the most heavily criticized, even though they play some spectacular attacking football when needed. It's part of the game, and I agree with you - criticism for defensive strategies is outdated. No one said anything about Brazil playing counter-attack against Turkey and Germany in the last cup, and when England play hyper-defense like they did vs Argentina there was nothing but praise. They tried the same tactics vs Portugal in the Euro but it failed as Portugal equalized and went ahead shortly after. Liverpool too played very defensive soccer and won the CL after defending their way past Juve and Chelsea.

Nothing wrong with defense at all, it's part of the game and can be just as exciting to watch a team shut down another as it is when sloppy and wide-open play result in high scoring games. It's a matter of taste.

[philipas]

yeah and the "champions of Europe" got beaten by Albania, couldnt score against us, and are now looking like they wont qualify for the world cup (maybe:))

as far as i remember Senegal were and still are a fantastic team, they are pretty much the French B team. Anyways

one last thing, ANY football game between Greece and Turkey is and never could be "meaningless" if you really think so i feel sorry for you :-

23 April 1948 - Turkey win 1 - 3 against Greece in Athens, with 2 goals from legendary Turkish striker Lefter Kücükyonadis who yes was of Orthodox origin. 2 fanatik Greek fans commit suicide off the acropolis as a result. Go look it up in the papers if you dont beli