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plato-ny
03-18-2005, 03:09 AM
Greens pair earn Greece call
Thursday, 17 March 2005
By Vassiliki Papantonopoulou

Uncapped Panathinaikos FC duo Loukas Vintra and Theofanis Gekas have been selected by Greece for the forthcoming FIFA World Cup qualifiers against Georgia and Albania.

Leading scorer
Defender Vintra and striker Gekas - the 14-goal leading scorer in the Alpha Ethniki - will replace the injured Olympiacos CFP pair of Stylianos Venetidis and Georgios Georgiadis for the away game in Georgia on 26 March and the visit of neighbours Albania four days later.

'Great honour'
The 24-year-old Vintra said of his call-up: "I'm very happy because it's every player's dream to be called into this national squad, the champions of Europe. I will do my best and hope that we win both matches." Gekas, also 24, was similarly upbeat. "It's a great honour, I'm very proud," he said.

FC Köln playmaker Vassilios Tsiartas is included too after overcoming the calf injury which caused him to miss February's 2-1 defeat of Denmark. The victory moved Greece up to second place in Group 2, six points behind Ukraine with a game in hand.

Greece squad
Nikopolidis (Olympiacos CFP), Chalkias (Portsmouth FC), Dellas (AS Roma), Goumas (Panathinaikos FC), Seitaridis (FC Porto), Fyssas (SL Benfica), Kapsis (FC Girondins de Bordeaux), Kyrgiakos (Rangers FC), Vintra (Panathinaikos FC), Katsouranis (AEK Athens FC), Basinas (Panathinaikos FC), Zagorakis (Bologna FC), Kafes (Olympiacos CFP), Lakis (Crystal Palace FC), Tsiartas (1. FC Köln), Giannakopoulos (Bolton Wanderers FC), Karagounis (FC Internazionale Milano), Papadopoulos (Panathinaikos FC), Vryzas (RC Celta de Vigo), Charisteas (AFC Ajax), Amanatidis (1. FC Kaiserslautern), Gekas (Panathinaikos FC).


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Hellas40
03-18-2005, 09:37 AM
the 2 new boys probably wont even get a run.

dutch_hrvat
03-18-2005, 01:12 PM
They can call up who ever they want, but the Greeks will F A I L to qualify, once they got absolutely lucky at a Championship and now they think they can beat the world. L O L

PAO_HELLAS
03-18-2005, 01:40 PM
They can call up who ever they want, but the Greeks will F A I L to qualify, once they got absolutely lucky at a Championship and now they think they can beat the world. L O L

Even lucky I have a championship. How many do you have?

LOL

Winning a championship by luck... Go tell this to a mature person....

baggy
03-18-2005, 02:17 PM
Even lucky I have a championship. How many do you have?

C'mon, don't talk nonsense....
The Nehterlands and Croatia have always been doing good, or at least better than Greece:
Netherlands got a European Championship and two lost World Cup finals, and Croatia got the third place in France '98, which I think wasn't luck at all.... :D

plato-ny
03-18-2005, 05:10 PM
They can call up who ever they want, but the Greeks will F A I L to qualify, once they got absolutely lucky at a Championship and now they think they can beat the world. L O L

Hey dutch, Holland has just as many euro cups as Greece. They've blown big games in World Cups (thats because they can't take on the world, using your own words) and Euro Cups past, especially in penalty time, with the only exception being Sweden this past Euro 2004. Speaking of which, Holland lost in Portugal 2-1 in Euro 2004. Greece won in Portugal TWICE. Also, in Euro 2004, Holland lost to Czech Republic 3-2, a game where Holland was winning winning 2-0. Greece DEFEATED the Czech Republic 1-0. Greece is ranked #13 and Holland is ranked #6 in the world rankings. Not bad for a "lucky" team, as you put it.

As for Croatia, in Euro 2004, they tied France 2-2, a game where Croatia was winning 2-1. Greece DEFEATED France 1-0. By the way, how many cups do Croatia have? Or better yet, how many cups did the former Yugoslavia ever win? Also, Greece is ten spots higher than Croatia (#23) in the world rankings. Thats very impressive for a, as you put it, "lucky" team.

And don't talk about Greece being lucky. You cannot win a major soccer tournament on luck. Greece has become the international soccer inspiration for small teams who feel they can't win a tournament.

Here's what Greece accomplished in Euro 2004: By the way, these "Firsts" also include World Cup as well as Euro cup history: First team to win with the highest odds (100-1). First team to defeat the host nation (Portugal - ranked #7 and a semi-finalist of Euro 2000) and the defending champions (France - #2) in the same tournament. First team to win their last three games (Quarterfinals, Semifinals, and Finals) with straight shutouts, and against the defending champion, France, the Final Four Favorite, Czech Republic - ranked #5, and the host nation, who were a Euro 2000 semi-finalist . First team to defeat host nation in the opening match. First team to win with a foreign coach. The oldest coach to win a soccer tournament. First team to defeat host nation twice in the same tournament. Fist Balkan national team to win a soccer championship.

Greece can, indeed, take on the world. So, even though this has nothing to do with the topic at hand, don't come into this forum and start trouble, because Greeks have no problems with the Dutch or the Croats and highly respect their national teams.

baggy
03-18-2005, 05:55 PM
Hey dutch, Holland has just as many euro cups as Greece. They've blown big games in World Cups (thats because they can't take on the world, using your own words) and Euro Cups past, especially in penalty time, with the only exception being Sweden this past Euro 2004. Speaking of which, Holland lost in Portugal 2-1 in Euro 2004. Greece won in Portugal TWICE. Also, in Euro 2004, Holland lost to Czech Republic 3-2, a game where Holland was winning winning 2-0. Greece DEFEATED the Czech Republic 1-0. Greece is ranked #13 and Holland is ranked #6 in the world rankings. Not bad for a "lucky" team, as you put it.

As for Croatia, in Euro 2004, they tied France 2-2, a game where Croatia was winning 2-1. Greece DEFEATED France 1-0. By the way, how many cups do Croatia have? Or better yet, how many cups did the former Yugoslavia ever win? Also, Greece is ten spots higher than Croatia (#23) in the world rankings. Thats very impressive for a, as you put it, "lucky" team.

And don't talk about Greece being lucky. You cannot win a major soccer tournament on luck. Greece has become the international soccer inspiration for small teams who feel they can't win a tournament.

Here's what Greece accomplished in Euro 2004: By the way, these "Firsts" also include World Cup as well as Euro cup history: First team to win with the highest odds (100-1). First team to defeat the host nation (Portugal - ranked #7 and a semi-finalist of Euro 2000) and the defending champions (France - #2) in the same tournament. First team to win their last three games (Quarterfinals, Semifinals, and Finals) with straight shutouts, and against the defending champion, France, the Final Four Favorite, Czech Republic - ranked #5, and the host nation, who were a Euro 2000 semi-finalist . First team to defeat host nation in the opening match. First team to win with a foreign coach. The oldest coach to win a soccer tournament. First team to defeat host nation twice in the same tournament. Fist Balkan national team to win a soccer championship.

Greece can, indeed, take on the world. So, even though this has nothing to do with the topic at hand, don't come into this forum and start trouble, because Greeks have no problems with the Dutch or the Croats and highly respect their national teams.

I don't want to hold one or another's side and I don't really want to be offensive, and if, by any extends I show to be so, please tell me to edit my post:

It's not about statistics, the numbers are just dead figures. A match is decided on the pitch and not on the paper. I really think that, past the numbers, both the Netherlands and Croatia can beat Greece at the present time. To talk sincerely, Greece had luck in winning the EC, but it wasn't only luck, but a decisive and strong defence, and a fast counter-attack. Still, those weapons are not functioning as well now, so Greece's level has clearly fallen since then. Greece beat all those Portugal, France and Czech Republic nine months ago. In nine months a lot of things can change, and truly a lot have changed. Just try to play again versus the ones you beat nine months ago.....

plato-ny
03-18-2005, 06:07 PM
I don't want to hold one or another's side and I don't really want to be offensive, and if, by any extends I show to be so, please tell me to edit my post:

It's not about statistics, the numbers are just dead figures. A match is decided on the pitch and not on the paper. I really think that, past the numbers, both the Netherlands and Croatia can beat Greece at the present time. To talk sincerely, Greece had luck in winning the EC, but it wasn't only luck, but a decisive and strong defence, and a fast counter-attack. Still, those weapons are not functioning as well now, so Greece's level has clearly fallen since then. Greece beat all those Portugal, France and Czech Republic nine months ago. In nine months a lot of things can change, and truly a lot have changed. Just try to play again versus the ones you beat nine months ago.....

Tell that to Dutch who came here and started opening his mouth about something that has nothing to do with this thread and discrediting Greece's Euro 2004 triumph.

baggy
03-18-2005, 06:11 PM
Tell that to Dutch who came here and started opening his mouth about something that has nothing to do with this thread and discrediting Greece's Euro 2004 triumph.

I will....
....but still, he was just giving his opinion in here, which, I think, is not denied :question:

plato-ny
03-18-2005, 06:17 PM
I don't want to hold one or another's side and I don't really want to be offensive, and if, by any extends I show to be so, please tell me to edit my post:

It's not about statistics, the numbers are just dead figures. A match is decided on the pitch and not on the paper. I really think that, past the numbers, both the Netherlands and Croatia can beat Greece at the present time. To talk sincerely, Greece had luck in winning the EC, but it wasn't only luck, but a decisive and strong defence, and a fast counter-attack. Still, those weapons are not functioning as well now, so Greece's level has clearly fallen since then. Greece beat all those Portugal, France and Czech Republic nine months ago. In nine months a lot of things can change, and truly a lot have changed. Just try to play again versus the ones you beat nine months ago.....

How can you say that Greece's level has clearly fallen when they are in second place in the division, six points behind Ukraine with one less game played and currently have their highest FIFA ranking ever? They have recovered well since their slow start and will continue to roll the ball...

baggy
03-18-2005, 06:23 PM
How can you say that Greece's level has clearly fallen when they are in second place in the division, six points behind Ukraine with one less game played and currently have their highest FIFA ranking ever? They have recovered well since their slow start and will continue to roll the ball...

The ranking doesn't matter, I told you not to look at the numbers.
If you were as good as you were in June-July 2004, at least you had to beat us in Tirana, and Turkey in Athens.

plato-ny
03-19-2005, 12:22 AM
If Albania was as good as they said they were after they defeated the European champions, they would have played as well afterwards. But what has happened since then: Georgia-Albania 2-1, Albania-Denmark 0-2, Albania-Ukraine 0-2, Kazakhstan-Albania 0-1 (congratulations, you defeated a team that still has zero points). Its not surprising because Albania get so pumped up when they play against Greece and don't take the other games seriously. They do the same against Serbia. Wait til March 30th!!!

Greece is in second place and rebounded nicely from a slow start, the way a champion is supposed to (which you refuse to acknowledge). Greece is ahead of your Albania, even though you beat us, and in the running for a World Cup spot. Can't say the same for Albania, who only care about diminishing our World Cup aspirations rather than trying to qualify for the World Cup.

baggy
03-19-2005, 04:13 AM
If Albania was as good as they said they were after they defeated the European champions, they would have played as well afterwards. But what has happened since then: Georgia-Albania 2-1, Albania-Denmark 0-2, Albania-Ukraine 0-2, Kazakhstan-Albania 0-1 (congratulations, you defeated a team that still has zero points). Its not surprising because Albania get so pumped up when they play against Greece and don't take the other games seriously. They do the same against Serbia. Wait til March 30th!!!

Greece is in second place and rebounded nicely from a slow start, the way a champion is supposed to (which you refuse to acknowledge). Greece is ahead of your Albania, even though you beat us, and in the running for a World Cup spot. Can't say the same for Albania, who only care about diminishing our World Cup aspirations rather than trying to qualify for the World Cup.

What??? We're tryin' to dimish you what??? You're never gonna get to that World Cup!!! You're just two points ahead of us, which is nothing!!! It doesn't mean that we lost to all those teams, we're just proud that we beat the European Champions!!! And who knows, there are still a lot of matches to go, we still can overpass you....

plato-ny
03-19-2005, 07:13 PM
* You're 2 points behind us, even though you beat us. (BAD SIGN)

* Albania, in 3 meaningful road games against Greece, has lost 3 times and never scored a goal. (BAD SIGN)

* You lost at home twice in the division. (BAD SIGN)

* Since the Greece game, your team has yet to get points against a team that has, at least, one point (Kazakhstan-zero points) (BAD SIGN)

* Albania has been punished at home for one game (BAD SIGN)

* Albania will never qualify because all they care about is beating Greece rather than actually qualifying (BAD SIGN)

* Albania has never qualified for anything ever (WORST SIGN OF ALL)


You know what Greece has going for them:

* Second place in the division (GOOD SIGN)

* Are six points behind having played one less game than Ukraine (GOOD SIGN)

* Defeated Denmark at home and tied in first-place Ukraine (GOOD SIGN)

* Have found their rhythm since the slow start and have had only positive results since then (GOOD SIGN)

* THE CURRENT EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS!!! (BEST SIGN OF ALL)



If Albania ties or win in Greece, let them EARN it by playing well and by not getting lucky.

Gennadios
03-19-2005, 08:19 PM
Im glad Vyntra has been called up, maybe one for the future as Venetidis and Fyssas are old, and he will add youth to the left back side. As for Gekas, I don't think it was neccasary to call him up, as we have good strikers as it is. He probably won't start anyway :dontcare:

Hellas40
03-20-2005, 10:12 AM
C'mon, don't talk nonsense....
The Nehterlands and Croatia have always been doing good, or at least better than Greece:
Netherlands got a European Championship and two lost World Cup finals, and Croatia got the third place in France '98, which I think wasn't luck at all.... :D

Croatia can have third, and holland can have 2 runner ups at the WC, bu they mean shit all bacuase they didnt win. no one cares about 2nd place or 3rd place they care about winning the championship.
Yes Holland won the EC in 88, but dont forget only 8 teams competed in those finals, and they got through the semi vs germany with a dubious penalty decision so dont talk to me about luck you idiot.

Hellas40
03-20-2005, 10:21 AM
They can call up who ever they want, but the Greeks will F A I L to qualify, once they got absolutely lucky at a Championship and now they think they can beat the world. L O L

Once again we try to open a thread about Greek soccer on the Greek forum and you get jealous pricks ruining it.
How did Croatia go in Euro 2004, or Holland for that matter???? You already back 2 teams how bout you support a third team and see how they go???

Croatia got third in 98...wow. they played "quality" teams like Japan and Jamaica to get through the prelimenaries, then had to dig deep against "powerhouse" Romania, before beating a 10 man German side.
If you can serioulsy compare that effort with Greeces then you are a moron.
And if any of your loser friends(like baggy) can tell me where Luck helped Greece win im all ears. we didnt need a penalty shootout to progress at all, thats what i consider luck in big tournaments.

baggy
03-20-2005, 07:25 PM
dont talk to me about luck you idiot.
And if any of your loser friends (like baggy)

Watch out your words, we're just discussing in here. Or you want any fights? I want to avoid it, but if you really want it..... I'm ready.

ARIANIT_C
03-20-2005, 10:03 PM
Watch out your words, we're just discussing in here. Or you want any fights? I want to avoid it, but if you really want it..... I'm ready.

Hellas40 ? whatch ur f...dirty big mouth !! this soccer forum !!

Hhm no fights with hellas 40 please beggy he still only a child ! :ronaldo:

baggy
03-20-2005, 10:08 PM
Hellas40 ? whatch ur f...dirty big mouth !! this soccer forum !!

Hhm no fights with hellas 40 please beggy he still only a child ! :ronaldo:

I can imagine that from the way he talks, man! :thumbsup:
He's always tried to be a bit offensive :yellow:

ARIANIT_C
03-20-2005, 10:14 PM
They can call up who ever they want, but the Greeks will F A I L to qualify, once they got absolutely lucky at a Championship and now they think they can beat the world. L O L

hahahaha and yes ur totally right dutch_hrvat :D after the lucky win at euro champions those greekish ass holes think they can beat everyone :D :ronaldo: they are the weakest eurochampions in the history ever they win by luck this title but dont deserve it cuz their weak...

baggy
03-20-2005, 10:19 PM
hahahaha and yes ur totally right dutch_hrvat :D after the lucky win at euro champions those greekish ass holes think they can beat everyone :D :ronaldo: they are the weakest eurochampions in the history ever they win by luck this title but dont deserve it cuz their weak...

Exactly, that's what I'm tryin' to do: to make up greeks' minds that they are the luckiest and weakest "champions in whichever competition in the world" ever!

Hellas40
03-21-2005, 12:33 PM
Watch out your words, we're just discussing in here. Or you want any fights? I want to avoid it, but if you really want it..... I'm ready.

ok baggy,
i want to hear where Greece got lucky thats all.
fights?? what are you gonna do throw your keyboard at me??
dumb ass!

baggy
03-21-2005, 06:40 PM
ok baggy,
i want to hear where Greece got lucky thats all.
fights?? what are you gonna do throw your keyboard at me??
dumb ass!

look who's talking.... The typical guy who ALWAYS hides behind his computer.... Just know that I'm not that kind of, it's not about keyboards, when I say fight I mean KICK ASS, and I'm not afraid about it, since I'm a real ALBANIAN, you should have heard of....

RonaldoD08
03-21-2005, 06:49 PM
look who's talking.... The typical guy who ALWAYS hides behind his computer.... Just know that I'm not that kind of, it's not about keyboards, when I say fight I mean KICK ASS, and I'm not afraid about it, since I'm a real ALBANIAN, you should have heard of....

don't fall as low as hellas40 level...it's not worth it...:D

ARIANIT_C
03-21-2005, 09:33 PM
don't fall as low as hellas40 level...it's not worth it...:D


Hellas40 = stupid :boo:

hellas40 are u so damn stupid man :shocked: how in earth can u say greece
is a damn strong team GOD DAMN IT I reapet one more time GREECE is the weakest euroChampions ever !!! and we all know that!
And u dont have any arguments to hide or tell us that you are a favorit team cuz if u werent weak so would you win all the games than.. greece were incredibley WEAK you got beaten by Albania drawing Turkey draw with ukraine and just win teams like KASAKSTAN and denmark in ur own ground :silly:
SO to be realistic ur chances for qualify is 50-50 and do u think it is great position for a team who just win the cup in euro2004 ? No of course IT IS NOT :boo: SO you are damn not a good soccer team You were to much LUCKY in EURO2004 cuz NO ONE in the world thought greece will win euro 2004 someone thought it will be Chzec rep. someone Portugal someone even meant it ll be netherlands but no one Thought Greece is going to win and even not yOu thought it cuz for the europe greece was an unknown soccer team which never qualified before now u get this euro2004champ but ur still the same i mean ur not Good stable team ...!

plato-ny
03-22-2005, 12:36 AM
These Albanians amaze me. They can't stand the fact that Greece are the Euro champs of 2004. It drives em crazy. Now, the Albanians, that is, those with a Greek complex, are calling Greece the weakest Euro champion ever. Previously, they were saying that Greece won because all the teams Greece faced gave the games away because of the upcoming Olympics, which is the most illogical thing you will ever hear. What more excuses will they think of next?

You know how it feels when a team wins a Eurocup and a fan wears a jersey, cap, or scarf that says "champion" on it or when he watches dvd's of a Euro champion team he supported? Oh, I forgot. You don't know how it feels.

What did Greece accomplish? UEFA awarded the MVP of Euro 2004 to a Greek and selected 5 players for the all 25-man Euro roster, more than any other country!!! Amazing for a "weak and lucky" team!!!

By the way, moderator, you should ban these Albanians who come into our forum, who have a Greek complex, and have nothing better but to insult us.

FIFA awarded Greece the team of the year award for 2004. An internationally prestigious award!!! Astounding for a "weak and lucky team"!!!

When international soccer fans hear GREECE, they think, "Ah, the team that performed miracles in Euro 2004". When they hear Albania, they think, "Huh"?

Greece had a slow start, yes. But, we have recovered since then, the way a champion is supposed to. Even though we lost to Albania, we are still 2 points ahead of them. We are 6 points behind Ukraine, in second place, a contender no doubt (can't say the same for Albania) with one less game played and we tied in there 1-1.

By the way, moderator, you should ban the Albanians who come into this forum, have a Greek complex, and insult us!!!

Hellas40
03-22-2005, 09:21 AM
look who's talking.... The typical guy who ALWAYS hides behind his computer.... Just know that I'm not that kind of, it's not about keyboards, when I say fight I mean KICK ASS, and I'm not afraid about it, since I'm a real ALBANIAN, you should have heard of....

still want to hear where we got lucky during Euro 2004, we also finished top of our table in qualifiers? I just want to know where we got lucky???
Dont talk threats about fighting, honestly your on the other side of the world probably, so dont be silly, ive never threatened anyone with physical violence because it never will happen, be realistic!
Ive never said Greece is the stongest football team or the new power of football like that new albanian idiot raving on lately, i just cannot stand you jealous pricks who cannot give Greece credit on their win by saying we were lucky, we played to our strengths and we won. And we done it harder than other champs in the past.
so stop talking fights its very immature. And i hope you can come to terms with the fact that Greece are the champions of Europe at least until 2008 so deal with it, maybe Albania will win one day.........ok were getting ahead of ourselves here that aint ever gonna happen but fingers crossed you never know.
If Greece qualify for WC 2006 Ill be over the moon ive said that before, but if they dont well they will still be Euro champs wont they?? We also get to compete in the Confederations Cup in June so who knows we might steal that cup too!
Bring on Brazil!!! Like Otto saids we will draw with Brazil and beat the other two. lol.

Hellas40
03-22-2005, 09:23 AM
don't fall as low as hellas40 level...it's not worth it...:D

LOW???? whos the wannabe Greek in the Greek forum????

ARIANIT_C
03-22-2005, 12:47 PM
These Albanians amaze me. They can't stand the fact that Greece are the Euro champs of 2004. It drives em crazy. Now, the Albanians, that is, those with a Greek complex, are calling Greece the weakest Euro champion ever. Previously, they were saying that Greece won because all the teams Greece faced gave the games away because of the upcoming Olympics, which is the most illogical thing you will ever hear. What more excuses will they think of next?

You know how it feels when a team wins a Eurocup and a fan wears a jersey, cap, or scarf that says "champion" on it or when he watches dvd's of a Euro champion team he supported? Oh, I forgot. You don't know how it feels.

What did Greece accomplish? UEFA awarded the MVP of Euro 2004 to a Greek and selected 5 players for the all 25-man Euro roster, more than any other country!!! Amazing for a "weak and lucky" team!!!

By the way, moderator, you should ban these Albanians who come into our forum, who have a Greek complex, and have nothing better but to insult us.

FIFA awarded Greece the team of the year award for 2004. An internationally prestigious award!!! Astounding for a "weak and lucky team"!!!

When international soccer fans hear GREECE, they think, "Ah, the team that performed miracles in Euro 2004". When they hear Albania, they think, "Huh"?

Greece had a slow start, yes. But, we have recovered since then, the way a champion is supposed to. Even though we lost to Albania, we are still 2 points ahead of them. We are 6 points behind Ukraine, in second place, a contender no doubt (can't say the same for Albania) with one less game played and we tied in there 1-1.

By the way, moderator, you should ban the Albanians who come into this forum, have a Greek complex, and insult us!!!



SO u will like to Ban me would you ? now ur the IDIOT here just because u dont like me and other albanians... u wish to ban us:yield:
Im just here to say my menning as any one else and im really sure i didnt say anything bad to you ? as u just did that to me maybe u should be banned! we are talkin as humans here and about soccer so its my menning to say that i think greece isnt a good team now just because of that u start badmouth me ....! i said once please watch ur mouth !!! ok

plato-ny
03-22-2005, 03:07 PM
SO u will like to Ban me would you ? now ur the IDIOT here just because u dont like me and other albanians... u wish to ban us:yield:
Im just here to say my menning as any one else and im really sure i didnt say anything bad to you ? as u just did that to me maybe u should be banned! we are talkin as humans here and about soccer so its my menning to say that i think greece isnt a good team now just because of that u start badmouth me ....! i said once please watch ur mouth !!! ok

The reason why I said that is because you Albanians ruined this thread by taking unprovoked cheap shots at our national team. Look back at the previous posts in this thread and see who started all this nonsense. I would not have said anything negative if I wasn't provoked. You have a right to your opinion, but, when you insult us, you ABUSE that right.

Also, Hellas40, you can defend our national team but you don't have to be nasty. If they are nasty to you, say something back but don't stoop to their level.

baggy
03-22-2005, 03:28 PM
The reason why I said that is because you Albanians ruined this thread by taking unprovoked cheap shots at our national team. Look back at the previous posts in this thread and see who started all this nonsense. I would not have said anything negative if I wasn't provoked. You have a right to your opinion, but, when you insult us, you ABUSE that right.

Also, Hellas40, you can defend our national team but you don't have to be nasty. If they are nasty to you, say something back but don't stoop to their level.

ARIANIT_C is right! The forum is open to all, why should anyone be banned. I am saying that you were lucky and that's it, I don't think it was an insult or sth like that, I'm not saying "***k you" or sth like that! And there comes this Hellas40...
Now, let's close this dumb discussion and talk FOOTBALL!

plato-ny
03-22-2005, 03:51 PM
ARIANIT_C is right! The forum is open to all, why should anyone be banned. I am saying that you were lucky and that's it, I don't think it was an insult or sth like that, I'm not saying "***k you" or sth like that! And there comes this Hellas40...
Now, let's close this dumb discussion and talk FOOTBALL!

Perhaps the moderator should close this

ARIANIT_C
03-22-2005, 04:00 PM
ARIANIT_C is right! The forum is open to all, why should anyone be banned. I am saying that you were lucky and that's it, I don't think it was an insult or sth like that, I'm not saying "***k you" or sth like that! And there comes this Hellas40...
Now, let's close this dumb discussion and talk FOOTBALL!


** WELDONE BaggY..

I totally agree with you.... but this hellas_40 he badmouth plp like crazzy
I also think this thread must closed..


***WARNING****
plz
( STOP BADMOUTH ALBANIA )

RonaldoD08
03-22-2005, 04:57 PM
LOW???? whos the wannabe Greek in the Greek forum????

isn't that you???

RonaldoD08
03-22-2005, 05:06 PM
Perhaps the moderator should close this

Your moderator lost his moderatorship because he didn't know how to behave. If you act like him you will get banned because you have no moderatorship to loose.

Watch your mouth next time. If someone says that greece sucks or that greece was lucky you have no right to offend the person or his country. He is talking about a football team.
If I say that Barcelona sucks because I am a Real Madrid fan there is nothing wrong in that. The same thing is true for a Turk who says that Greece sucks because he wants Turkey to qualify and not Greece. This is just football rivalry.
Also it is not the Turks and Albanians that ruin this forum; it's the greeks who can't stand different opinions.
When somebody opens a thread saying "greece sucks" why do you have to insult him personally or his nationality? If you can convince the guy that greece does not suck ok, if not then mind your own business and go on with your life.
Also don't go around saying that turks and albanians suck because that is not a football thing anymore...
This is an open first and last warning. Next time it will be different.

PS: Don't try to test how long it can go. Just a friendly advice. ;)

nachi88
03-22-2005, 05:17 PM
Your moderator lost his moderatorship because he didn't know how to behave. If you act like him you will get banned because you have no moderatorship to loose.

Watch your mouth next time. If someone says that greece sucks or that greece was lucky you have no right to offend the person or his country. He is talking about a football team.
If I say that Barcelona sucks because I am a Real Madrid fan there is nothing wrong in that. The same thing is true for a Turk who says that Greece sucks because he wants Turkey to qualify and not Greece. This is just football rivalry.
Also it is not the Turks and Albanians that ruin this forum; it's the greeks who can't stand different opinions.
When somebody opens a thread saying "greece sucks" why do you have to insult him personally or his nationality? If you can convince the guy that greece does not suck ok, if not then mind your own business and go on with your life.
Also don't go around saying that turks and albanians suck because that is not a football thing anymore...
This is an open first and last warning. Next time it will be different.

PS: Don't try to test how long it can go. Just a friendly advice. ;)


genna lost the moderatorship(is that a word even), not becuase he was a bad mod, but becuase of certain disagreements he had with others. Alos he lost it becuase of his provocative thread, which he had written ( and subsequently appologised for) long before he became a mod.

Since I'm not greek, albanian or turk, I'll give a neutral view point

The greek team of euro04 was good and effective. Discipline is the word. Not fun to watch, but a great team non the less. And the fact that they beat france, portugal twice , czech to win the trophy shows a lot about their capability.

The turkish team, of wc02 was a very exciting team to watch. They have a slump in form, but They still are well within qualifying range, if they can get some old magic working again

The albanian team, if they could beat the greek team of euro04, there sure is something to this team.

IMO, this is the toughest group , even toughre than the nederland, czech and romania , since more teams in this one have a realistic chance of wc qualification.

Albanessi_$
03-22-2005, 05:49 PM
dude, chill

genna lost the moderatorship(is that a word even), not becuase he was a bad mod, but becuase of certain disagreements he had with others. Alos he lost it becuase of his provocative thread, which he had written ( and subsequently appologised for) long before he became a mod. Also , you should stop generalising on Greeks, like you've done in the post above.

Since I'm not greek, albanian or turk, I'll give a neutral view point

The greek team of euro04 was good and effective. Discipline is the word. Not fun to watch, but a great team non the less. And the fact that they beat france, portugal twice , czech to win the trophy shows a lot about their capability.

The turkish team, of wc02 was a very exciting team to watch. They have a slump in form, but They still are well within qualifying range, if they can get some old magic working again

The albanian team, if they could beat the greek team of euro04, there sure is something to this team.

IMO, this is the toughest group , even toughre than the nederland, czech and romania , since more teams in this one have a realistic chance of wc qualification.


LOL dude´ ALBANIA have already Beat Eurochamps :evil:

baggy
03-22-2005, 05:53 PM
LOL dude´ ALBANIA have already Beat Eurochamps :evil:

LOL That's what he was talking about:

The albanian team, if they could beat the greek team of euro04, there sure is something to this team.

RonaldoD08
03-22-2005, 06:00 PM
genna lost the moderatorship(is that a word even), not becuase he was a bad mod, but becuase of certain disagreements he had with others. Alos he lost it becuase of his provocative thread, which he had written ( and subsequently appologised for) long before he became a mod. Also , you should stop generalising on Greeks, like you've done in the post above.


Sorry guys, but this is just a misunderstanding from Nachi. :silly:

My warning is still effective and very serious. As I said just be careful. This is the greek forum and I am talking to the greeks that post here. However, if someone has passed the line we won't care what nationality he is. Turks, Greeks, Albanians, Serbs, etc. they are all the same and can be warned and banned in the same way...

PAO_HELLAS
03-22-2005, 06:03 PM
So, what about Gekas and Vintra? :D

plato-ny
03-23-2005, 12:04 AM
So, what about Gekas and Vintra? :D

Whatever Rehaggel has done so far, as far as choosing players goes, has been gold for Greece. Let see how it turns out with these two.

ionikos rule
03-23-2005, 08:43 AM
They can call up who ever they want, but the Greeks will F A I L to qualify, once they got absolutely lucky at a Championship and now they think they can beat the world. L O Lthier is 2 things i want to say 1st greece is one of the best teams in the world and 2nd of all get out of here you 1 eyed donkey

baggy
03-23-2005, 03:17 PM
thier is 2 things i want to say 1st greece is one of the best teams in the world and 2nd of all get out of here you 1 eyed donkey

:boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo:
WATCH OUT YOUR WORDS!

plato-ny
03-24-2005, 02:26 AM
thier is 2 things i want to say 1st greece is one of the best teams in the world and 2nd of all get out of here you 1 eyed donkey

Come on, now. I told Hellas40 that he can defend our national team without being nasty. You can do the same. If our enemies are being nasty to us, defend our team with facts, statistics, and, above all, pride. Turn the other cheek and don't stoop to their level.

RonaldoD08
03-24-2005, 02:52 AM
Come on, now. I told Hellas40 that he can defend our national team without being nasty. You can do the same. If our enemies are being nasty to us, defend our team with facts, statistics, and, above all, pride. Turn the other cheek and don't stoop to their level.

Nice job. Hopefully Hellas will listen to you... :thumbsup:

Hellas40
03-25-2005, 06:13 AM
Nice job. Hopefully Hellas will listen to you... :thumbsup:

Most of the time i state facts that dumb asses like ronaldo cannot take.
thats all. if they were not here stirring trouble i will not be here having a go at them or in their albanian forum either.

RonaldoD08
03-25-2005, 05:38 PM
Most of the time i state facts that dumb asses like ronaldo cannot take.
thats all. if they were not here stirring trouble i will not be here having a go at them or in their albanian forum either.

I would like to see your facts you ***king asshole.

Hellas40
03-25-2005, 10:26 PM
I would like to see your facts you ***king asshole.

watch your language or you will be in "deep" trouble MR.

RonaldoD08
03-25-2005, 11:47 PM
watch your language or you will be in "deep" trouble MR.

:confused:

RonaldoD08
03-25-2005, 11:47 PM
watch your language or you will be in "deep" trouble MR.

show me the facts dumbass...you think I don't know your native language?

I try not to use insults and violence because I don't want to not because I cannot. If the only way you can understand is by being insulted then whatever, asshole. ***king looser. Pathetic, chronic hater...
There are people here who insult because they get angry or because they want to get other people angry, but you are different. For you this is your native language asshole. These are the only words you understand. it's not your fault. It's your family's fault that didn't give you the chance to get to learn other words besides mother***ker, asshole, sucker, dumbass, idiot, punk, son of a bitch. These are the words that your family used to show their love to you...

PS: Nobody get me wrong here. I am not angry and I am not trying to insult hellas. I am just trying to communicate with him in his mother language...

Hellas40
03-26-2005, 12:04 AM
show me the facts dumbass...you think I don't know your native language?

I try not to use insults and violence because I don't want to not because I cannot. If the only way you can understand is by being insulted then whatever, asshole. ***king looser. Pathetic, chronic hater...
There are people here who insult because they get angry or because they want to get other people angry, but you are different. For you this is your native language asshole. These are the only words you understand. it's not your fault. It's your family's fault that didn't give you the chance to get to learn other words besides mother***ker, asshole, sucker, dumbass, idiot, punk, son of a bitch. These are the words that your family used to show their love to you...

PS: Nobody get me wrong here. I am not angry and I am not trying to insult hellas. I am just trying to communicate with him in his mother language...

oooh dont get too upset Mr R, its not my fault you were concieved when your dad ***ked your mum up her ass. You backward ***k

RonaldoD08
03-26-2005, 12:15 AM
oooh dont get too upset Mr R, its not my fault that I was concieved when my dad ***ked my mum up her ass. I am a backward ***k

I guess you didn't read my post script. I am not angry...
I am just trying to communicate with you...dumbass...

You are still using your native language I see...:D

RonaldoD08
03-26-2005, 08:41 AM
Hellas40 is banned. I would have preferred him to have listened to my warnings, but I still hope that a short time off will help him clear up his thoughts.

I hope all the others will stick to my warning. It is not a great thing having to ban people. That's the last choice you give us if you don't accept to listen to friendly warnings...