Japan VS Iran

[Toke-E-Yo]

I think that this would be the best lineup against Iran, but since it is Zico, i doubt that he will use more than 2 European players

as long as zico bases plays around the European players, the game should be fine.

Here is the line up that would be best

---Kawaguchi---
---Santos - Miyamto - Nakazawa - Nakata K---
---Ono - Nakata H - Nakamura - Ogasawara---
---Takahara - Tamada*---


*It could also be Okubo, Suzuki, or Yanagisawa.

Japan also has a very strong bench, with ppl like Matsuda, Kaji, Endo, Fukunishi, Inamoto and other great players. If Zico uses this team, it will be very effective, but since it is Zico, he will not bring in Nakata Hide, Okubo, Yanagisawa, and probably Nakata Koji. ZIco seems to stick to domestic players only

[AstonVillaFan 2]

Santos is in defence!!!! I think you could find someone better... replace one of the forwards with inamoto.

[Mani]

I think that this would be the best lineup against Iran, but since it is Zico, i doubt that he will use more than 2 European players

as long as zico bases plays around the European players, the game should be fine.

Here is the line up that would be best

---Kawaguchi---
---Santos - Miyamto - Nakazawa - Nakata K---
---Ono - Nakata H - Nakamura - Ogasawara---
---Takahara - Tamada*---


*It could also be Okubo, Suzuki, or Yanagisawa.

Japan also has a very strong bench, with ppl like Matsuda, Kaji, Endo, Fukunishi, Inamoto and other great players. If Zico uses this team, it will be very effective, but since it is Zico, he will not bring in Nakata Hide, Okubo, Yanagisawa, and probably Nakata Koji. ZIco seems to stick to domestic players only

Alex and Tanaka are suspended due to two yellow cards. They can't play against Iran!

[Toke-E-Yo]

yah but its not like Zico is actually gonna do this is it? What are the chances of him recalling Nakata rite now, even though he is showing pretty good form at Fiorentina since his recovery

[Dr.Oracle]

I think Iran lose.
Iranian players fight each other on the field when I saw Asian cup.
Also Iran has dirty fan like Astonvillafan2.

I'm sure Japan win, Iran lose.

yah but its not like Zico is actually gonna do this is it? What are the chances of him recalling Nakata rite now, even though he is showing pretty good form at Fiorentina since his recovery

[Jager]

:fed-up: :fed-up:

man,,,, you don't quit, do you? what do you have against Iran? You're going to be against them only because of one person?

I think you disliked Iran and Iranian before you registered here, I think you're intimidated by Iran and the fact that they are #2 in Asia after Japan and Korea is #3...

Come on man be honest you Hate them and it's not because of Astonvilla fan either,, you hate them and have always heated them for other personal reasons.

face it brother, some times you just have to be a man and accept the fact and stop being baised and create hate in your heart. it's only a sport.
You're starting to offend other "Non-Iranian" people here with your constant negative posts and remarks about Iran and Iranian.

you can send me a private message if you don't want people to know why youi really hate them.

:stop: Please.

:thumbsup:

[Dr.Oracle]

To Jager

OK, I think you are one of gentle guy, so I follow you opinion.
I was little bit excitement. Sorry.
I don't dislke Iran & Iranian except Astonvillafan2 & Mani.

Let me stop this if they quit & apology us.

I apology to you if you've got bad feeling.
Thanks. :thumbsup:

[AstonVillaFan 2]

dude i really think you need 2 stop this is sort of annoying... Anyway since Iran is at home I am thinking win... Ya Dr. Oracle honestly whats up with you? PM me if you want lets sort out are differences.

[Toke-E-Yo]

dude i really think you need 2 stop this is sort of annoying... Anyway since Iran is at home I am thinking win... Ya Dr. Oracle honestly whats up with you? PM me if you want lets sort out are differences.


just becaus eyou play at home, doesnt mean ur going to win...that luck only stays with korea

[AstonVillaFan 2]

we got a good shot though... don't let patriotism get in your way of thinking i doubt iran could win in japan and if they did i would consider them much higher than i do...

[inferno]

just becaus eyou play at home, doesnt mean ur going to win...that luck only stays with korea

Azadi stadium is quite daunting. 120,000 spectators!

Iran barely ever lose in Azadi in FIFA WCQ matches.

[Dr.Oracle]

You..Iran psycho,

You already insult many Korean so much, So I insult you.
Do you know how many Korean get a insult from you?

It is really disgusting. you kind of trash never apologize us.
You have to know this, many Korean didn't have bad feeling to Iran,
but we are not,now.

If you apologize us politely, we accept it, I will stop it.

Think about it. you are just 16 yeasr old psycho,
you are the shame on your country.
You make Iran isolated from all world.



dude i really think you need 2 stop this is sort of annoying... Anyway since Iran is at home I am thinking win... Ya Dr. Oracle honestly whats up with you? PM me if you want lets sort out are differences.

[AstonVillaFan 2]

wow.... you need help... Dude im not gonna apologize for my opinion... I think Korea is a good team, but i also think the reffing was ridiculus. I agree being at home gives you certain amount of leverage, but honestly the Italy win just annoyed me considering Italy was dominant the entire game and got cheated... I have nothing against korea or the people but if you want an apology your not gonna get it so just stop and we should try to patch up are differences cuz no-one wants 2 hear trash...Go post negative things in the anger forum and keep this part of the forum clean.

[Dr.Oracle]

Wow, you are one of the most stupid thing.

Hey..Do you forget what you wrote?

OK. let's stop it. But don't make us annoy.



wow.... you need help... Dude im not gonna apologize for my opinion... I think Korea is a good team, but i also think the reffing was ridiculus. I agree being at home gives you certain amount of leverage, but honestly the Italy win just annoyed me considering Italy was dominant the entire game and got cheated... I have nothing against korea or the people but if you want an apology your not gonna get it so just stop and we should try to patch up are differences cuz no-one wants 2 hear trash...Go post negative things in the anger forum and keep this part of the forum clean.

[AstonVillaFan 2]

dude cmon stop this is ridiculus lion do some bannage...

[Toke-E-Yo]

no banning no banning. International futbol always has had a risk of a lil Racism and biggotory....just show the love.....



WERE IS THE LOVE?! :worried:

[Jager]

Hey Toke E Yo

who will be missing from the Japanese line up against Iran? I hear some due to injury and some due to punishment. specailly the goalie with a broken finger...

Thanks bro.

[AstonVillaFan 2]

he posted it earlier... umm well their was warrnage...

[Jager]

I know the Iranians are not going to be happy about this... but,,,, the ref for the Iran Japan game is an Arab...he is Syrian I think.

[AstonVillaFan 2]

Why would we be angry? Syrian government supports Iran if anything he will favor the game for Iran. Ill put my money on it that the game will be extremely biased to the Japanese unless the reff is acctually fair.

[Toke-E-Yo]

I know the Iranians are not going to be happy about this... but,,,, the ref for the Iran Japan game is an Arab...he is Syrian I think.


i think the ref should be from europe�or a different continent

[AstonVillaFan 2]

I Agree!

[Toke-E-Yo]

well the refs are gonna have to be up to apr, we dont want another scandal on our hands lik ethe German Ref

[Mani]

Why would we be angry? Syrian government supports Iran if anything he will favor the game for Iran. Ill put my money on it that the game will be extremely biased to the Japanese unless the reff is acctually fair.
What are you talking about? Syrian refs have screwed Iran times after times. The head of AFC ref commite is a Syrian named Farough Bozo who back in his ref days was the cause of Iran's loss to Japan in the 1992 Asian Cup when he allowed an off-side Japanese goal and red-carded 4 Iranian players in one match....

[karimi_nr1]

What are you talking about? Syrian refs have screwed Iran times after times. The head of AFC ref commite is a Syrian named Farough Bozo who back in his ref days was the cause of Iran's loss to Japan in the 1992 Asian Cup when he allowed an off-side Japanese goal and red-carded 4 Iranian players in one match....

i dont think it will be a syrian referee..!! belive me it will either be a referee from east or west countries BUT lets hope for a good europen referee in such a biiig asian game :thumbsup:

[Lion Heart]

According to AFC the ref will be from Singapor not Syria................

[Mazloumi]

Japan to train in Germany


AFC - TOKYO, The Japan national team will have a training camp in Germany from March 17 to prepare for the 2006 FIFA World Cup Asian Qualifier against Iran on March 25.


They will miss both Alex and Makoto Tanaka who are suspended after picking up their second yellow cards in the last match against DPR Korea. Both players will only join the team after they return from Tehran for the next match against Bahrain on March 30.


The selection list to be drawn up by coach Zico, will be named on March 14 before they leave for Germany and after the training camp in Germany, they will head to Tehran on March 22.


European based players such as Reggina’s Shunsuke Nakamura and Naohiro Takahara of HSV Hamburg will miss the first day of the training camp after their clubs refuse to release them.

[Mazloumi]

Japan's squad announced


http://www.jfa.or.jp/e/teams/index.html



Iran's squad announced


http://persianfootball.com/readstor...plkkFZFSEGqkbHD

[Toke-E-Yo]

Nakata, Inamoto and Ono are back!

but Kawaguchi,Okubo,Kubo are out... :shocked: :worried:

this will be a good game to :rolling:

[Chiago]

uhhhhhh......check it..........Iran wins in Iran and Japan wins in Japan

i doesnt really matter since both teams are advancing anyways

[Jager]

:silly: :)

[Lion Heart]

I can't remember the last time I saw all of Japan's stars united like this. Iran has called all their top guns too, this will be the game of the tournement... OR it will be the worst game of the tournement! I hope the 2 teams don't play safe just out of respect for each other and both go out there attacking.

[PAO_HELLAS]

this is ridiculus lion

Can't you recognize a tiger? :D

[Mazloumi]

guys whats their final squad? is kawaguchi back? he is an outstanding keeper.


I also heard that Shinji Ono will not be released by his club Feyenoord. Is that true?

[AstonVillaFan 2]

Pao Hellas do you ever shut up? Do I have to kick your ass in everything. Siriously whats your problem?

[Toke-E-Yo]

guys whats their final squad? is kawaguchi back? he is an outstanding keeper.


I also heard that Shinji Ono will not be released by his club Feyenoord. Is that true?


Kawaguchi is currently injured :sleepy:

Ono will become a free agent (so called) but may be signed by Barcelona, or Arsenal

[ferdi77]

all u slit-eyed ppl shut the ***k up

u koreans, japnese, chinese and wtvr the ***k other countries there are

go ***kin eat ur ricebowls and sht the fuk up

iran is gonna whoop ur ass

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

[DrPhil1013]

um, i already ate my rice like 3 hours ago. I'm sorta full right now, so i'll wait until tommorow....and no Iran will not whoop anyone's ass...especially ours. why laugh? is it fun to be that ignorant? If i were you, i would just shut my mouth and let this one play itself out to save the embarassment. MMMK?

[AstonVillaFan 2]

Ummmm please excuse this person... i dunno if he is jokin like dave chappelle or if he is sirious.

[Toke-E-Yo]

hahah bann this ignorant mutha phuka already. we got 2 much racism up in here. i think we should have a no tolr\erance policy

[AstonVillaFan 2]

I agree with ya tok-eyo. We live in a sad world.

[ferdi77]

i just think that japan will be massacred

i may be wrong though

;)

[pasargade]

ferdi, you sound like moron. just relax and whach the game. i hope its going to be an exciting and well played match and i hope both teams make it to the world cup and do well at the world cup. its about time!

go asia go asia

[Mani]

and no Iran will not whoop anyone's ass...
Iran already whooped South Korea's butt 4-3 a few months ago. So you never know. We might whoop Japan's butt too :D

[AstonVillaFan 2]

Mani don't bother sometimes there is no point let the game be played then talk about it. We can all make predictions, but some peoples predictions are simply doing it out of spite.

[Toke-E-Yo]

ONO ISNT ALLOWED TO PLAY! :dead:


NAKAZAWA INJURED?!
KAWAGUCHI INJURED?!


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :( :dazed: :worried:

[karimi_nr1]

bad luck tokeyoo..!! :dontcare: seems like Iran have a HUGER advantage then before..!! all this missing players can lead to a biig goal margin los man :evil: :confused:

[Toke-E-Yo]

yah but i think it will be a tie, just cuz Jpana always seems to be able to pull it off sumhow in the last few mins

[karimi_nr1]

yah but i think it will be a tie, just cuz Jpana always seems to be able to pull it off sumhow in the last few mins


is that what you think..!! you havent seen iran play in azadi havent you :D

LOOOOOL,..!! you really are dreaming buddy a tie..!! with all thoose players missing ..!! even with thoose players playing you would have difficulties to win a game,.!!

:dontcare: youll see that japan wont pull anything off in the last minutes buddy

[Toke-E-Yo]

is that what you think..!! you havent seen iran play in azadi havent you :D

LOOOOOL,..!! you really are dreaming buddy a tie..!! with all thoose players missing ..!! even with thoose players playing you would have difficulties to win a game,.!!

:dontcare: youll see that japan wont pull anything off in the last minutes buddy


dont u shut up?


We get the point. The Chinese get the point. Koreans get the Point. Cameroonians get the point. Iran has home field advantage. That only affects the spirit of the players, not the talent. So your saying if Brazil played Iran at Iran, then Iran would easily win? Just because they have home field advantage. It doesnt matter if they play in Antartica, Hawaii, or on the moon. a game is a game. talent is talent. luck is luck. soccer is soccer. they'll just have people cheering for them. and in that case, then Iran will lose in Japan right? because your making it sound like that home field always win. Not true, only the S. Koreans are lucky in this way

[AstonVillaFan 2]

tok yo you just made yourself sound stupid... s korea well i still hold my opinion that they cheated. Its an opinion guys so just let it go don't make a big deal out of it. Iran wins in talent and ability and they are playing at home on the 2nd biggest stadium in the world. Japan has better teamwork. Thats about it. Let the game be played and then lets talk about it till then just don't bother because no-one can be certain. Oh ya Japan has a better coach.

[Mani]

Japan's talent is way below Iran's:

http://www.persianfootball.com/news/images/tv-screen-karimi.jpg

[andy80]

tok yo you just made yourself sound stupid... s korea well i still hold my opinion that they cheated. Its an opinion guys so just let it go don't make a big deal out of it. Iran wins in talent and ability and they are playing at home on the 2nd biggest stadium in the world.

What use is a second biggest stadium in the world when its old and run down and look like in need of serious repair?
its not a stadium that i'd be braggin about too much. At least Saudis got a some brilliant stadiums to show off.
and talking about football. Most iranis in here seems to bragg on when iran defeat korea...well I say they wont be too much too bragg about soon.
Ever realised your so called stars are getting old? and... Ever talked about the 2004 Olympic under-23 iran failed to qualify for and lost to korea Home /Away TWICE? "Its an opinion, just let it go and do't make a big deal out of it". :D

[AstonVillaFan 2]

the stadium is an ok condition what are you talking about? I agree about our stars... Daei and Azizi shouldn't even be playing. This is what angers me about the koreans on the forum. They can't find an legitamte thing but spite to get angry about it, and then they just spew bs when i agree on them about crap. personally this what i hope 2 see Iran play this
Hashmenian Karimi
Mahdavkivkia
Navidkia Zandi
Medjdi
Rezaei Pashvarzah Kabei and what other good defender is out there
Minarpro...


Didn't I admit that korean youth was stronger. Listen you guys better stop spewing bullshit. Im giving you guys once chance to earn some respect hopefully you won't get yourself banned.

[Toke-E-Yo]

tok yo you just made yourself sound stupid... s korea well i still hold my opinion that they cheated. Its an opinion guys so just let it go don't make a big deal out of it. Iran wins in talent and ability and they are playing at home on the 2nd biggest stadium in the world. Japan has better teamwork. Thats about it. Let the game be played and then lets talk about it till then just don't bother because no-one can be certain. Oh ya Japan has a better coach.


that they cheated wen? I think your only sayign that becuz Iran didnt do as good, just like u guys said that china paid the ref at the asian cup. Both teams were playing dirty, but Iran didnt keep heir cool. that is why they lost. If Iran isnt the best, you are quick to say that someone paid someone, or someone cheated, or sum other BS story :fed-up:

[Mani]

----
Oh save your face and shut that big Korean mouth of yours. Our stars' average age is 24 and Azadi is in no need of repairs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/neuroscientist/stadiumtango.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/neuroscientist/stadium2tango.jpg

[judicatormd]

Oh save your face and shut that big Korean mouth of yours. Our stars' average age is 24 and Azadi is in no need of repairs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/neuroscientist/stadiumtango.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/neuroscientist/stadium2tango.jpg

why do you have to insult all koreans like this? i stayed out of this stupid argument but your persian friend "astonvilla" comes into the korea dokdo msg board and starts posting non sense just to piss koreans off. even when i was pissed before i never lumped all persians together like you did. i think you owe other koreans on here an apology.

[AstonVillaFan 2]

I said the koreans on this forum... So you just lied. Iran never keeps their cool. If they were to play as a team, then they would dominate Asia easily. I never said they payed the chinese reff of. They played shitty end of discussion.

[andy80]

[QUOTE=Mani]Oh save your face and shut that big Korean mouth of yours. Our stars' average age is 24 and Azadi is in no need of repairs.

[QUOTE]

??? shut my Korean mouth"??
Anyone that should be banned is you then
buddy i can say alot worse things... aston and all you others seem to say things and when things go tough threaten other people with ban, when its all you go around provoking people.

to my point. Iran's main players, Bagheri, Daei, Azizi and even Madivikia are way over 30's or becoming one,
In youth irans failed to qualify for every major tournament including the latest under 20 and eveen 2004 Olympics.
hows is that not a legitimate argument eh?

[Toke-E-Yo]

Oh save your face and shut that big Korean mouth of yours. Our stars' average age is 24 and Azadi is in no need of repairs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/neuroscientist/stadiumtango.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/neuroscientist/stadium2tango.jpg


NO NO NO NO!

that was baaaadd man


O and Ono is allowed to play, he will released by Feyanoord for training camp this week!

[ferdi77]

good for u asian mofo!!!

[AstonVillaFan 2]

bagheri isn't on the NT i think. ITs a stupid argument because i said the korean youth was better. Im not provoking, you guys are just showing your stupidity. You guys throw way 2 many insults around. I throw 1 or 2. You guys are pretty bad and pretty much racists. I know Juctimord is and I know dr. oracle. I think the rest of you guys are just stupid.

I provided sources for my argument on Dokdo? Where are yours?

[andy80]

bagheri isn't on the NT i think. ITs a stupid argument because i said the korean youth was better. Im not provoking, you guys are just showing your stupidity. You guys throw way 2 many insults around. I throw 1 or 2. You guys are pretty bad and pretty much racists. I know Juctimord is and I know dr. oracle. I think the rest of you guys are just stupid.

I provided sources for my argument on Dokdo? Where are yours?

listen.... i think the stupid is you, your so called sources for Dokdo if you havent read them shows... 1st source, article just tells there is a conflict. 2nd article tell why Korea right to its claim is legitimate..
buddy do you know how to read and analyse things? you mustnt go to college, or is a secondary school dropout coz you proved yourself how STUPID you are.

As for your second point, theres not one time I've been a racist towards iran ok? dont you dare lable me one because if I want to I really can, but i dont stoop to your level. You throw 1 or 2 insults? thats more than enough.

[andy80]

that they cheated wen? I think your only sayign that becuz Iran didnt do as good, just like u guys said that china paid the ref at the asian cup. Both teams were playing dirty, but Iran didnt keep heir cool. that is why they lost. If Iran isnt the best, you are quick to say that someone paid someone, or someone cheated, or sum other BS story :fed-up:

Your right, i'm sick of that guy sooo disillusioned with iran being the best, that anything others do is a cheat or paid or whatever little fanatasy he dreams up..

I too am fed up about his little BS "opinions" in anything.

[Mani]

to my point. Iran's main players, Bagheri, Daei, Azizi and even Madivikia are way over 30's or becoming one
Why do you even have to comment on stuff you don't know anything about? Is that a "Corean" thing? Bagheri has left the national team since 2002 and Azizi is just a sub. Mahdavikia is only 27 and Daei is on his way out. So save it!

[andy80]

Why do you even have to comment on stuff you don't know anything about? Is that a "Corean" thing? Bagheri has left the national team since 2002 and Azizi is just a sub. Mahdavikia is only 27 and Daei is on his way out. So save it!

is it now? is it a "iran" thing to talk about stuff you dont know?
you want me to refer aston's little comments about things he doesnt know?
is that a "iran" thing?
btw to your point,, which players have iran replaced with those older generation? huh?

[AstonVillaFan 2]

we have hashmenian, mahdavkia, kabei, Rezaei, Karimi, Mobali.... Those are some pretty good stars. Zandi and Navidkia... Who else do you want? Let me name some famous korean stars... oh Cha wow that was awhile ago AK Wung who is past his time... Park Ji-Sung ... there ya go im done...

[andy80]

we have hashmenian, mahdavkia, kabei, Rezaei, Karimi, Mobali.... Those are some pretty good stars. Zandi and Navidkia... Who else do you want? Let me name some famous korean stars... oh Cha wow that was awhile ago AK Wung who is past his time... Park Ji-Sung ... there ya go im done...

Never heard of them...your iran players, so what makes them international stars eh?
i will ask my other friends..their respone. never heard of them

AK Wung? who is he? u trying be rascist now? dont get too excited buddy.

want me to name KOrean foreign stars? sorry as i said before ur knowledge to soccer in general is very weak.

Seol - Wolves
JS Park - PSV
YP Lee - PSV
Cha - Frankfurt <--- Former player Cha's son who is 24yr old playing in Germany atm..

Now thats four players in the starting line up compared to your players either on the bench or in lower leagues with no involvement or players all failed in europe, where as wolves are likely to be promoted, and Park and Lee are about to play in CL quater final and would prob reach the semis,
so how do u compare now?

[Toke-E-Yo]

Never heard of them...your iran players, so what makes them international stars eh?
i will ask my other friends..their respone. never heard of them

AK Wung? who is he? u trying be rascist now? dont get too excited buddy.

want me to name KOrean foreign stars? sorry as i said before ur knowledge to soccer in general is very weak.

Seol - Wolves
JS Park - PSV
YP Lee - PSV
Cha - Frankfurt <--- Former player Cha's son who is 24yr old playing in Germany atm..

Now thats four players in the starting line up compared to your players either on the bench or in lower leagues with no involvement or players all failed in europe, where as wolves are likely to be promoted, and Park and Lee are about to play in CL quater final and would prob reach the semis,
so how do u compare now?
he makes a point, i have heard of all the korean players he has listed, but not to many of the Iranians. I also know Ahn (who doesn't?) and he is playing for yokohama F Marinos in the J-League, and is doing really well.

[Toke-E-Yo]

we have hashmenian, mahdavkia, kabei, Rezaei, Karimi, Mobali.... Those are some pretty good stars. Zandi and Navidkia... Who else do you want? Let me name some famous korean stars... oh Cha wow that was awhile ago AK Wung who is past his time... Park Ji-Sung ... there ya go im done...


well Ahn is a pretty well known korean star...... :question:

[Mani]

he makes a point
He doesn't. Neither do you. So why don't you both just shut the hell up and not comment on stuff you don't know anything about!

[nachi88]

good for u asian mofo!!!

listen,

stop this racist bs of urs... first u had a probelm with whites, now its asians...

stop all this stereotyping and cursing.

[Toke-E-Yo]

He doesn't. Neither do you. So why don't you both just shut the hell up and not comment on stuff you don't know anything about!


what do you mean I dont know wat im talkin bout? I know clearly what I'm talkin bout.

I dont know Iranian players because I dont follow Iranian football. I follow Japanese and some Korean. So if you wanna talk like that, then you can leave, Im here to talk futbol, not argue with you. Ive said it once, Ill say it again. You mite not post racist stuff, but it's people like you who cause all the problems in these forums :red-card:

[PAO_HELLAS]

listen,

stop this racist bs of urs... first u had a probelm with whites, now its asians...

stop all this stereotyping and cursing.

but he is white

[AstonVillaFan 2]

Mahdavkia voted best player germany he is prolly the best player at Hamburg
Hashmenian moving to Manchester City where he will play along side fowler an importnat player
Karimi the Maradona of Asia possibly the most talented asian player ever.
Rezaei Top Defender at his team vital in games
Kabei: becoming quickly known as the next R. Carlos he is only 18 and speedy beyone belief
Mobali: Another star who hopes to go to europe
Pashvasah: Was on the WORLD TEAM still quite taleneted i think
Zandi: needs playing time
medjdiL needs playing time

Trust me our Iran wins on talent against any asian team. Sry i didn't mean to sound racist i meant Auk-Wung im not sure how u spell his name but when they pronounce it thats how it sounds or Ahn-Wung.

[Mani]

I dont know Iranian players because I dont follow Iranian football.
Exactly my point! You don't follow Iranian football then zip it and don't comment on the quality of Iranian players whom you don't know shit about!

[andy80]

Mahdavkia voted best player germany he is prolly the best player at Hamburg
Hashmenian moving to Manchester City where he will play along side fowler an importnat player
Karimi the Maradona of Asia possibly the most talented asian player ever.
Rezaei Top Defender at his team vital in games
Kabei: becoming quickly known as the next R. Carlos he is only 18 and speedy beyone belief
Mobali: Another star who hopes to go to europe
Pashvasah: Was on the WORLD TEAM still quite taleneted i think
Zandi: needs playing time
medjdiL needs playing time

Trust me our Iran wins on talent against any asian team. Sry i didn't mean to sound racist i meant Auk-Wung im not sure how u spell his name but when they pronounce it thats how it sounds or Ahn-Wung.

Still doesnt convince me, theres two whos playing in europe in your list, and only one player is due any kind of respect.
Fact is Fact, this year we have two players still in the latter part of CL, and two other player earning good reviews at their clubs, I dont care what your players need playing time, or need self belief, the fact is that they are unproven in international football, ok? apart from Mahdivikia and karimi whatever non of them are proven anything in europe, no ones heard of them outside iran so that is that, what u going to tell me next? no point in arguing, atm korea has players who got their position set in their clubs, playing reguarly winning titles, and still involved in the biggest competition.

As if I couldnt write a whole list saying
CS LEE - need time in Sociedad
JK Song - injury but needs time
etc etc

Rezaei Kabei Mobali Pashvasah Zandi medjdiL, these are unproven players, it doesnt concern me how talent you might say they are, they haven acheived nothing,
And trust me more, in talent alone, Korea beat iran, they have a system where youth continually spring up to replace year after year, thats why, youth and olympic tournaments are always participated.
To Mani, come up with a legitimate argument like aston is tryin here otherwise you keep ur mouth shut, you only look like a little kid having a cry.

[andy80]

Mahdavkia voted best player germany he is prolly the best player at Hamburg
Hashmenian moving to Manchester City where he will play along side fowler an importnat player
Karimi the Maradona of Asia possibly the most talented asian player ever.
Rezaei Top Defender at his team vital in games
Kabei: becoming quickly known as the next R. Carlos he is only 18 and speedy beyone belief
Mobali: Another star who hopes to go to europe
Pashvasah: Was on the WORLD TEAM still quite taleneted i think
Zandi: needs playing time
medjdiL needs playing time

The original argument is about iran not having any players to replace the older generation an you write a whole list of who needs playing time?

[Toke-E-Yo]

Mahdavkia voted best player germany he is prolly the best player at Hamburg
Hashmenian moving to Manchester City where he will play along side fowler an importnat player
Karimi the Maradona of Asia possibly the most talented asian player ever.
Rezaei Top Defender at his team vital in games
Kabei: becoming quickly known as the next R. Carlos he is only 18 and speedy beyone belief
Mobali: Another star who hopes to go to europe
Pashvasah: Was on the WORLD TEAM still quite taleneted i think
Zandi: needs playing time
medjdiL needs playing time



well, these players must only be known as that in Iran (besides Karimi) becuase i have never heard of them, but I dont follow Iranian futbol. I have heard of Mahdavikia, but everytime i watch a hambuyrg game, he always comes on as a sub, while Japanese Takahara starts! I can make the same argument with Japanese payers, which would be a longer list, but I give up with arguin with all you. Y'all (not really aton Villa ***MANI***cough cough) are really, really stubborn. Iran has better players, but Japan plays alot better as a team. Teamwork is everythin in futbol. If that wasn't the case, Japan wouldn't be the Asian Cup Champions, and in first place in Asia (tied 18th)

[Jager]

My prediction for Iran-Japan game is that Korea will win... ;)


that's what a Korean fan would say... :rolling: :)

[AstonVillaFan 2]

Tok yo. Mahdavy is a lil injured. He was voted player of the year in germany for christ sakes do you honestly think he just a sub? If so tokyo then your acting moronic and extremly nationalistic... If iran was 2 play in Japan I doubt Iran would win.

By the way Takyama is horrible player... All the hamburg games i have seen he is only in cuz the other forwards are injured. He is also very bad striker. By the way I can only name one japanese player who is right now not a sub but a current starter and thast Ono...I can't think of anybody else but i don't know japanese defenders that well.

[judicatormd]

My prediction for Iran-Japan game is that Korea will win... ;)


that's what a Korean fan would say... :rolling: :)

why do you have to take a cheap shot at koreans?

actually when iran were seperated from korea in the qualifying draw i was very happy as i saw them as being the biggest threat/challenger to korea.
:fed-up: :fed-up: :fed-up: :fed-up:

[AstonVillaFan 2]

With iran being the best in asia im not surprised...

[judicatormd]

With iran being the best in asia im not surprised...

meh.. i was more scared of iran because of the following:

1) Koreans dislike japanese, and losing to japanese they will lose face so the players would have tried really hard and we probably wouldn't lose.

2) korea lost to iran in asian games in penalty shoot out last time in 2004.

3) koreans underestimate iran sometimes.

4) iran is developing into a good team.

but i don't think they are the best. they have yet to prove themselves at the world stage.

[Toke-E-Yo]

Tok yo. Mahdavy is a lil injured. He was voted player of the year in germany for christ sakes do you honestly think he just a sub? If so tokyo then your acting moronic and extremly nationalistic... If iran was 2 play in Japan I doubt Iran would win.

By the way Takyama is horrible player... All the hamburg games i have seen he is only in cuz the other forwards are injured. He is also very bad striker. By the way I can only name one japanese player who is right now not a sub but a current starter and thast Ono...I can't think of anybody else but i don't know japanese defenders that well.


all the games i have seen him in, he assists or scores :silly:

[Toke-E-Yo]

With iran being the best in asia im not surprised...


why do u ppl just asume Iran is the best? If Iran is so good, why are they still in 20th? Why did u tie Bahrain earlier in the year? WHy did you lose to China in the AFC Asian Cup semis? And don't say that "CHina payed the refs off" becuase if Iran really is a better team than china, it wouldnt matter. I think you say that only because Iran lost. Take the loss like a man. A tie, watever. A win, you can brag all u want.

[Mani]

To Mani, come up with a legitimate argument like aston is tryin here otherwise you keep ur mouth shut, you only look like a little kid having a cry.
STFU Andy!

Do you remember 2002 Asian Games in Korea? That was an Iranian U-23 team winning it! So save it son!

[Mani]

WHy did you lose to China in the AFC Asian Cup semis? And don't say that "CHina payed the refs off" becuase if Iran really is a better team than china, it wouldnt matter.
We didn't loose that match to China. We tied it with 9 players. We lost the penalty shoot-out which is like a lottery ticket. So zip it Tokeyo!

I'd like to see your face after March 25th! Because on that day, we gonna kick your ass and prove who has the best team in Asia!

[andy80]

With iran being the best in asia im not surprised...

but heres the catch, iran is not the best,

[andy80]

STFU Andy!

Do you remember 2002 Asian Games in Korea? That was an Iranian U-23 team winning it! So save it son!
oh ok, well done you did some research, but i believe 2004 comes after 2002,
before we end up quoting matches that dates back to 1970 something,

[AstonVillaFan 2]

last time iran played korea it was 4-3 and that was teh asian games... by the way irans national buss broke down and they were stuck in the chinese mts. for 10 hours and then they had 2 play korea! After all that we still showed korea up...

Rezaei and Mahdavkia are known outside of iran so is hashmenian and navidkia is well known. Karimi is great player and so is Kabei...
By the way iranians play in the Brundesliga and Seirie All the japanese play in are in the dutch league ooo wow impressive league... the koreans also play mainly in the dutch league wow thats ultra impressive. Sooo please guys cmon lets all agree on some things. Iran wins on talent, Japan wins on teamwork, and Korea wins on organization of its players. Ono and Nakata cannot compare to Mahdavkia nor can Park Ji-Sung. The best forward in Asia is Hasmenian... best defender well i don't know any korean or japanese defenders... I just know Rezaei is a key player at Messina.

[Toke-E-Yo]

oh ok, well done you did some research, but i believe 2004 comes after 2002,
before we end up quoting matches that dates back to 1970 something,


lmao lmao lmao, he has got a point mani.

The last time Japan played Iran in Tehran, Japan won 3-1, but im not countin that, because that was 1989.

the only reason Japan would lose is becuz it is missing the Asian All Star Team Keeper, Kawaguchi.

We didn't loose that match to China. We tied it with 9 players. We lost the penalty shoot-out which is like a lottery ticket. So zip it Tokeyo!

I'd like to see your face after March 25th! Because on that day, we gonna kick your ass and prove who has the best team in Asia!

well u see, it really doesnt matter who wins on the 25th. Japan have the most points in Asia, won the Asian Cup, and even if Iran does win, they will still only have 698 points, Japan will still have 705. You base your moral of Iran bieng the best team on heart, not facts. because i have all the facts to bak up Japan being numebr on in Asia rite now. If Iran could only TIE bahrain, why are you so sure that you will win on the 25th? Japan beat Bahrain with 10 ppl, and that was with pretty much AALLLLLLLLLL the european based players out of action, except Nakamura Shunske. Japan now have a european based midfield, whom are most on form. Nakata Koji has been doing really good with Marseille (managed by former japan coach Phillipe trousiier[who i like better with Zico]) As much as I hate Zico, he gets results. And as longas he gets results on the 25th, I will be happy

I'd liek to see the Koreans point of view.

PS If there were more Japanese in this forum, then it would be a better argument, but as of rite now, I am fending off about 6 Iranians.

PSS Mani is a doosh, anyone else agree?

[Toke-E-Yo]

last time iran played korea it was 4-3 and that was teh asian games... by the way irans national buss broke down and they were stuck in the chinese mts. for 10 hours and then they had 2 play korea! After all that we still showed korea up...

Rezaei and Mahdavkia are known outside of iran so is hashmenian and navidkia is well known. Karimi is great player and so is Kabei...
By the way iranians play in the Brundesliga and Seirie All the japanese play in are in the dutch league ooo wow impressive league... the koreans also play mainly in the dutch league wow thats ultra impressive. Sooo please guys cmon lets all agree on some things. Iran wins on talent, Japan wins on teamwork, and Korea wins on organization of its players. Ono and Nakata cannot compare to Mahdavkia nor can Park Ji-Sung. The best forward in Asia is Hasmenian... best defender well i don't know any korean or japanese defenders... I just know Rezaei is a key player at Messina.

but doesnt Hasmenian not start?

And there is only one Japanese in the Dutch League, Ono. all the rest are in Seria A or Le League

Yanagisawa is a key player in Messina as well

Okubo made a huge impact in La Liga before he got injured.

okay okay, well how many teams move through? I forget. Is it 2, or 2 form each group? if its 2 from each groupm Japan and Iran should be at peace, lets just pick on the communist north koreans! :D

It's people like Mani that write a check wit his mouth that the rest of his body cant cash. Translation :arrow: WE DONT NEED IGNORANT @$$ PEOLE LIEK YOU!

Just puttin in my 2 cents :ronaldo:

PS Nakata will return as captain above Miyamoto
It wasn't a surprise to see Hidetoshi Nakata back in the national squad for Japan's upcoming World Cup qualifiers against Iran and Bahrain.
After all, Japan's J. League midfield quickly fell to pieces against North Korea last month, and Zico will need all of Nakata's experience in the white-hot atmosphere of the Azadi Stadium in Tehran.

But it was something of a surprise when Zico announced this week that Nakata would return as captain, above his successful stand-in, Tsuneyasu Miyamoto.

In Nakata's yearlong absence, resulting from groin and back injuries, Miyamoto has done an excellent job.

From his position as libero, the Gamba Osaka defender is in the perfect place to see what's going on in front of him in all areas of the field.

He is a calm and reassuring presence at the back, and this style of firm but unruffled leadership has worked well, especially away from home in a hostile environment such as China.

But Zico will look to Nakata again to lead the team, provided the Fiorentina midfielder comes through the four-day training camp in Frankfurt unscathed ahead of the March 25 date with Iran.

Is Zico making a mistake by placing too much responsibility on the shoulders of one player, albeit his best?

[Mani]

oh ok, well done you did some research, but i believe 2004 comes after 2002,
before we end up quoting matches that dates back to 1970 something,
STFU dude!

You said that Iran has no future and I told you that our U-23 team was the Asian champion in 2002 so we do have a future. Just shut the hell up and don't talk about stuff you don't know shit about!

[DrPhil1013]

STFU dude!

You said that Iran has no future and I told you that our U-23 team was the Asian champion in 2002 so we do have a future. Just shut the hell up and don't talk about stuff you don't know shit about!


do you have some sort of a problem? chill dude. stop pmsing all over him.

[Toke-E-Yo]

STFU dude!

You said that Iran has no future and I told you that our U-23 team was the Asian champion in 2002 so we do have a future. Just shut the hell up and don't talk about stuff you don't know shit about!


see...ignorant...

[Jager]

why do you have to take a cheap shot at koreans?

actually when iran were seperated from korea in the qualifying draw i was very happy as i saw them as being the biggest threat/challenger to korea.




how is that a "cheap shot"?? can't you take a joke? I'm not taking any body's side how do you assume I'm taking Iran's side? :question:

[Mani]

do you have some sort of a problem?
Yes I do. My problem are Koreans with big mouth who think they are experts on Iranian football!

[Mani]

see...ignorant...
Not as ignorant as you and your Korean freinds here!

[DrPhil1013]

Not as ignorant as you and your Korean freinds here!


alright were not the ones with "big mouths" . We dont think we are experts in Iranian soccer. But guess what. You are not an expert yourself. So if I were you, I would shut my mouth and stop being such a dyke. Ok?

[Toke-E-Yo]

alright were not the ones with "big mouths" . We dont think we are experts in Iranian soccer. But guess what. You are not an expert yourself. So if I were you, I would shut my mouth and stop being such a dyke. Ok?


LMAO LMAO! :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:



it's true, none of us (non iranians) try to be a expert. I have already said that i franlky dont care about Iranian futbol. (nothing against Iran in general, just dont follow their futbol)

[andy80]

lmao lmao lmao, he has got a point mani.

The last time Japan played Iran in Tehran, Japan won 3-1, but im not countin that, because that was 1989.


well u see, it really doesnt matter who wins on the 25th. Japan have the most points in Asia, won the Asian Cup, and even if Iran does win, they will still only have 698 points, Japan will still have 705. You base your moral of Iran bieng the best team on heart, not facts. because i have all the facts to bak up Japan being numebr on in Asia rite now. If Iran could only TIE bahrain, why are you so sure that you will win on the 25th? Japan beat Bahrain with 10 ppl, and that was with pretty much AALLLLLLLLLL the european based players out of action, except Nakamura Shunske.
I'd liek to see the Koreans point of view.


PSS Mani is a doosh, anyone else agree?

i agree, none of the iran supportersv here has proven with proper facts that their claim of iran being the "best in asia" legitimate.
well this is what i say, in my thoughts and fact and statistics alone, it is clear iran rank behind korea, jap and saudi!
korea and jap has by far more player making impact in europe where it matters ideally CL, and look record it will always indicate
korea - semi jap-second round in wc while iran has one win 1998. is iran the first asian country to win WC games outside 2002?
i dont think so, north Korea beat Italy 1966, Saudi Arabia made the 2nd round WC. what did iran achieve? a win against USA.. oooo wow.

aston, bundesliga was once the world best league back 30yrs ago, but it is no longer. WHY?
alot of german clubs are under financial strain and apart from bayern they dont have any impact in CL or other europena comp, i'd say dutch league stronger anyways.
and please dont keep telling me how great they are, coz as i said no one knows em apart from iran supporters and non of them makes any impact in europe. wanna talk about asian club comp? korea, jap , saudi teams dominate.

yeah that mani is moron and i invite him, say more rascist shit, i dare ya

[andy80]

Yes I do. My problem are Koreans with big mouth who think they are experts on Iranian football!

i dont claim to be a expert on iranian football nor do i want to be one,
you see it iran football isnt interesting enough, if I want to go watch football in the middle east it'd proba be qatar league .

i am not or even want to be a "expert" on your football.

[andy80]

how is that a "cheap shot"?? can't you take a joke? I'm not taking any body's side how do you assume I'm taking Iran's side? :question:

i never took offence, and i knew it was a light hearted joke
no worries :D

[Jager]

so what's up with all the rif raf in here? does everybody think their team is the best in Asia?

Guys that's normal, no one likes to admitt their team is 2nd or 3rd best, the best thing to do is be friendly and have fun about it.

We will see who is the better team on Friday.


Mani I apologize on behalf of Tokyo
Tokyo I apologize on behalf of Mani

now let's talk soccer and stop being like a bunch of kids.

can someone tell me who won the last game between Iran and Japan?

no more negative posts please. :smoking:

[AstonVillaFan 2]

Tork yo and Mani are both going 2 new lows. I don't expect much better out of the Koreans in this forum.. Andy when besides RAulmadrid have we ever given false statistics... Infact I can name multiple times where Dr. Oracle has... and u all stood behind him. We have the most talent we always have and we still do to this day. IF u want 2 argue that then ur stupid im not gonna bother arguin with you. Since we have done this on a number of threads and the Iranians have proven to have had the best record in Asia...Outside of of 02 has japan or korea done anything good besides reach the world cup ummm no... North Koreans i don't care about 1 good tournament prolly on steriods or maybe just trained their balls off. Anyway I have applied to be a mod and I plan to clean up these forums if Val writes back.

[Mani]

yeah that mani is moron and i invite him, say more rascist shit, i dare ya
You are the only moron around here. You are 10-year old loud mouth "Corean" troll who has the balls to comment on Iranian football when he doesn't know a thing about it.

Your ass is still on fire because your team got humiliated by Iran a few months ago! Remember 4-3? Remember Karimi? Remember your coach crying?

[Mani]

i agree, none of the iran supportersv here has proven with proper facts that their claim of iran being the "best in asia" legitimate.
well this is what i say, in my thoughts and fact and statistics alone, it is clear iran rank behind korea, jap and saudi!
Yah yah yah! Blah blah blah! here are some FACTS for you:

FIFA ranking (http://fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,25998-Mar-2005,00.html) in Asia:
1. Japan
2. Iran
3. South Korea

Also, you might want to take a look at Iran's profile (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/team/profile.html?team=irn) on FIFA website. Iran, with 7 titles, has the most continental titles in Asia:
Asian Championships 3 times (1968, 1972, 1976), Asian Games 4 times (1974, 1990, 1998, 2002)

I know it feels real bad to be ranked below Iran both in FIFA ranking and Asian titles. You just don't have to be an ass about it!

Now please don't cry. Don't cry!

[Mani]

:worried:

[Toke-E-Yo]

I WAS about to appologize to Mani, but i doubt it if i ever will now. I appologize to everyone else in this forum who has been effected with my arguing.

What are gonna do Ping Pong Lee? Eat my puppy? Please leave him out of this. I love my puppy!
But on the other note, what Mani just said was brutal. I'm gonna have to take the Koreans side on this!

And as a matter fact mani, THAT was racist, so now u cant say anything about you not posting racist comments :fed-up:

[Toke-E-Yo]

Yah yah yah! Blah blah blah! That's true only in your dreams Ping Pong Lee. here are some FACTS for you:

FIFA ranking (http://fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,25998-Mar-2005,00.html) in Asia:
1. Japan
2. Iran
3. South Korea

Also, you might want to take a look at Iran's profile (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/team/profile.html?team=irn) on FIFA website. Iran, with 7 titles, has the most continental titles in Asia:
Asian Championships 3 times (1968, 1972, 1976), Asian Games 4 times (1974, 1990, 1998, 2002)



everything here is in the past! OK, Iran WAS the better team, but why are we counting Asian Cups from 30 yrs back? i mean half of the people on that winning Asian Cup team are probably in their late 50's

[Mani]

and please dont keep telling me how great they are, coz as i said no one knows em apart from iran supporters and non of them makes any impact in europe.
Oh really? No one knows Iranian players apart from Iran supporters? Then how come 4 Iranian players have won the Asian player of the year title in the last 8 years? How come no Korean player has won this award in the last 10 years?

Is this why you are crying?:

1996 Khodadad AZIZI (Iran)
1997-8 Hidetoshi NAKATA (Japan)
1999 Ali DAEI (Iran)
2000 Nawaf AL-TEMYAT (Saudi Arabia)
2001 FAN Zhiyi (China)
2002 Shinji ONO (Japan)
2003 Mehdi MAHDAVIKIA (Iran)
2004 Ali KARIMI (Iran)

Source: http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/as-poy.html

[Toke-E-Yo]

Oh really? No one knows Iranian players apart from Iran supporters? Then how come 4 Iranian players have won the Asian player of the year title in the last 8 years? How come no Korean player has won this award in the last 10 years?

Is this why you are crying?:

1996 Khodadad AZIZI (Iran)
1997-8 Hidetoshi NAKATA (Japan)
1999 Ali DAEI (Iran)
2000 Nawaf AL-TEMYAT (Saudi Arabia)
2001 FAN Zhiyi (China)
2002 Shinji ONO (Japan)
2003 Mehdi MAHDAVIKIA (Iran)
2004 Ali KARIMI (Iran)

Source: http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/as-poy.html


well you see, Iran happnes to be quite a big nation, with quite a big population.

and that doesnt say anythign about the Iran NT. All these players made impacts with their clubs as well!

[DrPhil1013]

What are gonna do Ping Pong Lee? Eat my puppy? Please leave him out of this. I love my puppy! :o

http://joann.onegoodcookie.com/pictures/nilla/puppy%20chewing%20on%20toy%203.JPG



That is the cutest puppy ever. But stop being so stereotypical about Koreans eating dogs. Not all do. And Ping Pong Lee? haha. is ur IQ=1? hehe stop being ignorant and start being cool dude.

[Toke-E-Yo]

and next time, post the whole thing

1988 Ahmed RADHI (Iraq)
1989 KIM Joo-Sung (South Korea)
1990 KIM Joo-Sung (South Korea)
1991 KIM Joo-Sung (South Korea)
1992 [No award]
1993 Kazuyoshi MIURA (Japan)
1994 Saeed AL-OWAIRAN (Saudi Arabia)
1995 Masami IHARA (Japan)
1996 Khodadad AZIZI (Iran)
1997 Hidetoshi NAKATA (Japan)
1998 Hidetoshi NAKATA (Japan)
1999 Ali DAEI (Iran)
2000 Nawaf AL-TEMYAT (Saudi Arabia)
2001 FAN Zhiyi (China)
2002 Shinji ONO (Japan)
2003 Mehdi MAHDAVIKIA (Iran)
2004 Ali KARIMI (Iran)


so lets see, the last 10 yeas so from 95....

well well, Japan has 4 awards, with Nakata doing double duty! funny how you decided to leave out 95, (because you said in the last ten years)..and whats this?

Wins by country

5 Japan
4 Iran
3 South Korea
2 Saudi Arabia
1 China, Iraq



Japan has won 5, Iran 4? :eek:

well the way you were saying it, I thought Iran had won the most awards!


:D :D :D :D

:arrow: but this doesnt mean that they played for the NT well, just that the individual played well

and whats this? more facts? Mani, buddy, you didnt read the whole thing through :ronaldo:

facts from 2004, from your source!

2004
Asian Football Confederation's Sanyo Player of the Year Award :
Ali KARIMI [Iran]

The other players in the race for the award were :
A'ala Hubail [Bahrain]
Shunsuke Nakamura [Japan]

AFC Woman Player of the Year Award:
Homare Sawa [Japan]

AFC Coach of the Year Award :
Adnan Hamd [Iraq]

Club Team of the Year:
Al-Ittihad (Saudi Arabia)

National Team of the Year:
Japan

[Mani]

everything here is in the past! OK, Iran WAS the better team, but why are we counting Asian Cups from 30 yrs back? i mean half of the people on that winning Asian Cup team are probably in their late 50's
Oh so Iran's 7 Asian titles, the last of which was in 2002, don't matter because they were in the past but North Korea's 1966 world cup run matters! Hahahaha! You East Asians are good comedians!
well you see, Iran happnes to be quite a big nation, with quite a big population.
Is that so? Iran has many stars because it is a big nation? So then India and China should have more stars than Iran! Heck even Japan is a bigger nation than Iran!
and that doesnt say anythign about the Iran NT. All these players made impacts with their clubs as well!
Your Korean buddy said that Iranian players have not made any impacts with their clubs now you are saying they have! You people should stop jumping all over the place with your non-factual arguments!

[Toke-E-Yo]

Oh so Iran's 7 Asian titles the last of which was in 2002 don't matter because they were in the past but North Korea's 1966 world cup run matters! Hahahaha! You East Asians are good comedians!

Is that so? Iran has many stars because it is a big nation? So then India and China should have more stars than Iran! Heck even Japan is a bigger nation than Iran!



good point. Japan has produced better players in the past.

[Mani]

Who has been the most successful Asian player in the Europe during the last 10 years?

Mehdi Mahdavikia of Iran!

http://www.explore-biography.com/sports_figures/M/Mehdi_Mahdavikia.html
"His current position is as a striker, and he has been described as "the greatest winger" in the German Bundesliga. In 2003, he was awarded Asian Player of the Year by the Asian Football Confederation. He was awarded Hamburg Player of the Year in 2003 and 2004."

[Mani]

Who was the first Asian player to play and score in UEFA Champions League match?

Ali Daei of Iran!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Daei
Daei became the first Asian player to feature in a UEFA Champions League match. He played in the Champions League with Hertha Berlin becoming the teams best scorer in the league with 3 goals. His famous match against Chelsea gained him a lot of recognition.

[RaulMadrid7]

I hope fridays match Iran VS Japan turns out to be a draw because seriously, I don't think I can take this anymore. :ronaldo: :D :thumbsup:

[Toke-E-Yo]

Iran=Green
Japan=Blue
S. Korea=Red

lets compare!

List of winners
1988 Ahmed RADHI (Iraq)
1989 KIM Joo-Sung (South Korea)
1990 KIM Joo-Sung (South Korea)
1991 KIM Joo-Sung (South Korea)
1992 [No award]
1993 Kazuyoshi MIURA (Japan)
1994 Saeed AL-OWAIRAN (Saudi Arabia)
1995 Masami IHARA (Japan)
1996 Khodadad AZIZI (Iran)
1997 Hidetoshi NAKATA (Japan)
1998 Hidetoshi NAKATA (Japan)
1999 Ali DAEI (Iran)
2000 Nawaf AL-TEMYAT (Saudi Arabia)
2001 FAN Zhiyi (China)
2002 Shinji ONO (Japan)
2003 Mehdi MAHDAVIKIA (Iran)
2004 Ali KARIMI (Iran)

Wins by player

3 KIM Joo-Sung (South Korea)
2 Hidetoshi NAKATA (Japan)
1 Khodadad AZIZI (Iran)
Ali DAEI (Iran)
FAN Zhiyi (China)
Masami IHARA (Japan)
Ali KARIMI (Iran)
Mehdi MAHDAVIKIA (Iran)
Kazuyoshi MIURA (Japan)
Shinji ONO (Japan)
Saeed AL-OWAIRAN (Saudi Arabia)
Ahmed RADHI (Iraq)
Nawaf AL-TEMYAT (Saudi Arabia)


Wins by country

5 Japan
4 Iran
3 South Korea
2 Saudi Arabia
1 China, Iraq



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Yearwise Data


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1988
Top 3

1. Ahmed RADHI 26 pts Iraq
2. Joo-Sung KIM 16 " South Korea
3. MAJED Abdullah 14 " Saudi Arabia


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1989
Top 3

1. Joo-Sung KIM 38 pts South Korea
2. MAJED Abdullah 12 " Saudi Arabia
3. Ahmed RADHI 6 " Iraq


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1990
Top 6

1. Joo-Sung KIM 36 pts South Korea
2. Farshad PEYOUS 28 " Iran
3. Adnan Khamees AL-TALIYANI 16 " United Arab Emirates
4. Kyung-Hoon PARK 14 " South Korea
5. Chi-Won KIM 14 " North Korea
6. Mojtaba MOHARRAMI 10 " Iran


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1993
Asian Football Confederation's Player of the Year Award (unofficial)
Kazuyoshi MIURA [Japan]

The other players in the race for the award were :
Fahd Al-Bishi [Saudi Arabia]
Mefdi [Iran]
Masami Ihara [Japan]
Fu Yubin [China]


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1994
Asian Football Confederation's Sanyo Asian Player of the Year Award
Saeed OWAIRAN [Saudi Arabia]

Gillette Asian Coach of the Year Award
Chanvit Polchivin [Thai Farmers Bank, Thailand]


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1995
Asian Football Confederation's Sanyo Asian Player of the Year Award
Masami IHARA [Yokohama Marinos and Japan]

Coca-Cola Asian Youth Player of the Year
Mohamed Amor Al Kathri [Oman]

Gillette Asian Coach of the Year
Park Jong Hwan [Ilhwa Chunma, Korea Republic]


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1996
Asian Football Confederation's Sanyo Player of the Year Award (April 3, 1997) :
Khodadad AZIZI [Iran]

The other players in the race for the award were :
Ali Daei [Iran]
Ko Jeong Woon [South Korea]
Mohammed Al Daeyea [Saudi Arabia]
Yousef Al Thuniyan [Saudi Arabia]

Coca-Cola Young Player of the Year Award :
Bamrong Boomprom [Thailand U-16]

Gillette Coach of the Year Award :
Ma Yunan [China, Womens Nat.team]


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1997
Asian Football Confederation's Sanyo Player of the Year Award (May 13,1998):
Hidetoshi NAKATA [Japan]

The other players in the race for the award were :
Khodadad Azizi [Iran]
Karim Bagheri [Iran]
Choi Yong Su [South Korea]

Clarion Young Player of the Year Award :
Mehdi Mahdavikia [Iran]

Motorola Coach of the Year Award:
Cha Bum Kun [South Korea]

Canon Asian All Stars XI
Khodadad Azizi (Iran), Choi Yong-su (Korea Republic), Hidetoshi Nakata
(Japan), Ha Seok-ju (Korea Republic), Mohd Al Jahani (Saudi Arabia),
Karim Bagheri (Iran), Naoki Soma (Japan), Karim Bagheri (Iran), Mohammed
Al Jahani (Saudi Arabia), Zhang Enhua (China), Abdullah Sulaiman (Saudi Arabia),
Hong Myung-bo (Korea Republic), Mohammad Al Daeyea (Saudi Arabia).


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1998
Asian Football Confederation's Sanyo Player of the Year Award (May 25, 1999) :
Hidetoshi NAKATA [Japan]

The other players in the race for the award were :
Fan Zhiyi [China]
Jassem Al Houwadi [Kuwait]
All Daei [Iran]

Clarion Young Player of the Year Award:
Shinji Ono [Japan]

Motorola Coach of the Year Award:
Takashi Kawabara [Japan, Jubilo Iwata]

Canon Asian All Stars XI
Jassem Al Houwaidi (Kuwait), Ali Daei (Iran), Hiroshi Nanami (Japan),
Hidetoshi Nakata(Japan), Nikolay Shirshov (Uzbekistan), Yoo Sang-chul
(Korea Republic), Mehdi Mahdavikia (Iran), Abdullah Suleiman (Saudi Arabia),
Yutaka Akita (Japan), Fan Zhiyi (China), Jiang Jin (China).


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1999
Asian Football Confederation's Sanyo Player of the Year Award :
Ali DAEI [Iran]

The other players in the race for the award were :
Hidetoshi Nakata [Japan]
Sun Wen [China] [First woman player to be nominated for the award]
Hwang Sun Hong [South Korea]
Bashar Abdullah [Koweit]
Masashi Nakayama [Japan]

Clarion Young Player of the Year Award:
Waleed Hamzah [Qatar U-17]

Coach of the Year Award :
Mahmood Rakhimov [Uzbekistan] [posthumous; was killed in a car crash
in Dec.1999]
Special Women's MVP Award
Sun Wen [China]

Canon Asian All Stars XI
Ali Daei (Iran), Masashi Nakayama (Japan), Hidetoshi Nakata (Japan), Hussain Abdulghani (Saudi Arabia), Sultan Rashid (UAE), Kim Do-kyun
(Korea Republic), Mohd Al Khilaiwi (Saudi Arabia), Yuji Nakazawa (Japan),Radi Shnishal Swade (Iraq), Zhang Enhua (China), Pavel Bugalo (Uzbekistan).


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2000
Asian Football Confederation's Sanyo Player of the Year Award (May 9, 2001) :
Nawaf AL TEMYAT [Saudi Arabia]

The other players in the race for the award were :
Hiroshi Nanami [Japan]
Ryuzo Morioka [Japan]
Lee Dong-gook [South Korea]

AFC Young Player of the Year Award:
Ryoichi Maeda [Jubilo Iwata, Japan]

AFC Coach of the Year Award :
Philippe Troussier [Japan Nat.Team] (France)

AFC All Stars XI
Nawaf Al Temyat (Saudi Arabia), Jiang Jin (China), Mohammed Al Daeyea
(Saudi Arabia), Hendro Kartiko (Indonesia), Ryuzo Morioka (Japan),
Hong Myung-bo (South Korea), Fan Zhiyi (China), Jamal Mubarak (Kuwait),
Mohammed Al Khilaiwi (Saudi Arabia), Saoud Fath (Qatar), Shunsuke Nakamura
(Japan), Karim Bagheri (Iran), Hiroshi Nanami (Japan), Kiatisuk Senamuang
(Thailand), Lee Dong-gook (South Korea), Naohiro Takahara (Japan), Abbas Obeid Jassem (Iraq)

Club Team of the Year: Al Hilal (Saudi Arabia)
National Team of the Year: Japan


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2001
Asian Football Confederation's Sanyo Player of the Year Award (May 17, 2002) :
FAN Zhiyi [China]

The other players in the race for the award were :
Abdullah Al-Shehan [Saudi Arabia]
Li Tie [China]
Ali Karimi [Iran]
Mirdjalal Kasimov [Uzbekistan]

AFC Young Player of the Year Award:
Du Wei [China]

AFC Coach of the Year Award :
Nassar Al-Johar [Saudi Arabia Nat.Team] (Saudi Arabia)

Club Team of the Year:
Suwon Samsung (South Korea)

National Team of the Year:
China


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2002
Asian Football Confederation's Sanyo Player of the Year Award (May 28, 2003) :
Shinji ONO [Japan]

The other players in the race for the award were :
Junichi Inamoto [Japan]
Ahn Jung-hwan [South Korea]
Li Tie [China]

AFC Young Player of the Year Award:
Lee Chun-soo [South Korea]
AFC Coach of the Year Award :
Guus Hiddink [South Korea Nat.Team] (Netherlands)

Club Team of the Year:
Pakhtakor Toshkent (Uzbekistan)

National Team of the Year:
South Korea


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2003
Asian Football Confederation's Sanyo Player of the Year Award :
Mehdi MAHDAVIKIA [Iran]

The other players in the race for the award were :
Therdsak Chaiman [Thailand]
Maksim Shatskikh [Uzbekistan]

AFC Young Player of the Year Award:
Yoshito Okubo [Japan]

AFC Coach of the Year Award :
Cha Kyung-bok [Seongnam Chunma] (South Korea)

Club Team of the Year:
Al-Ain (UAE)

National Team of the Year:
Iraq


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2004
Asian Football Confederation's Sanyo Player of the Year Award :
Ali KARIMI [Iran]

The other players in the race for the award were :
A'ala Hubail [Bahrain]
Shunsuke Nakamura [Japan]
AFC Woman Player of the Year Award:
Homare Sawa [Japan]

AFC Coach of the Year Award :
Adnan Hamd [Iraq]

Club Team of the Year:
Al-Ittihad (Saudi Arabia)

National Team of the Year:
Japan

[Mani]

Who has been the only Asian player EVER to score 16 goals in a single season in a major European league?

Vahid Hashrmian of Iran! Nicknamed "Helicopter" in Germany and Europe!

http://www.hashemian.net/gallerie/vflspiel4/images/big/11.jpg

[Toke-E-Yo]

Who has been the only Asian player EVER to score 16 goals in a single season in a major European league?

Vahid Hashrmian of Iran! Nicknamed "Helicopter" in Germany and Europe!




then why hasnt he been won for Asian Player of the Year?

[DrPhil1013]

for some reason, that picture looks extremely awkward...

A soccer player with the nickname "helicopter" that poses for a picture with an actual helicopter in his hands. That just seems funny to me

[Mani]

then why hasnt he been won for Asian Player of the Year?
He will! Next year! Two Iranians have already won it in the last two years! There is only one Asian award and so many Iranian stars!

[Mani]

for some reason, that picture looks extremely awkward...

A soccer player with the nickname "helicopter" that poses for a picture with an actual helicopter in his hands. That just seems funny to me

http://footballasia.com/en/regional/West/index.asp?id=34877&mth=4&yr=2004
The 27-year-old, who is nicknamed “the helicopter� due to his impressive aerial strength, was originally bound to Bochum until 2005, but the German giants made use of a clause in Hashemian's contract which allowed the striker to leave if any team would pay the required compensation to Bochum. He will join the Bayern in the summer.

Hashemian, who has scored six out his 14 goals this season with his head – more than any other Bundesliga player – is thrilled at getting the chance to step in the footprints of his famous compatriot Ali Daei, who won the German Championship while representing Bayern in 1998-99.

[AstonVillaFan 2]

i agree with phil.. mani u are being a lil racist. Tok yo your proved that your not the smartest person when u said iran is a bigger country. Good luck to all I don't care anymore. Everyone shut up let the game be played.. i kinda agree with raul a draw now would be nice. by the Pashva was on the world team. Daei has the most goals ever... Bagheri has scored the most goals in a game the fastest ever 2 score and the highest scorein DMF ever.

[Mani]

Iran National Team players who are under 21!

Javad Kazemian-Hussein Kaabi-Iman Mobali-Arash Borhani-Moharam Navidikia
http://img86.exs.cx/img86/829/sgnature3ur.jpg

[Lion Heart]

Err I was thinking about closing this thread, but then I see that a lot can be learned from this thread if everybody ignores the name callings ect
I have warned a few posters *you know who you are* to try to behave, if not we will have to take action.

Thanks for your time... now continue...

[Jager]

Tomorrow this time both or at least one of these guys is going to SHUTUP...

I thought at least one of you would respect the old man (me) and stop jumping at each other. You guys are all Asians here but you act like enemies... Mani I have to say you say some very uncool things, I don't want to take sides but you need to calm down bro,,, I'm not saying TOKYO is right either....

Let's just wait until tomorrow, I think Iran will win but I will not be surprised if Japan pulls an upset, both teams are very even and talented.

Good luck.

[Jager]

By the way why is Mobali, Kazemian and Borhani not playing tomorrow?

I think Iran should get rid of Azizi, Daei and Golmohamadi they are too old....

[Toke-E-Yo]

Tok yo your proved that your not the smartest person when u said iran is a bigger country. .
i meant in land, not population, so I am correct :rolleyes:

[DrPhil1013]

simply owned :rolling:

[AstonVillaFan 2]

lol tokyo trying 2 save your ass? How would that affect soocer players we make? I agree with you jager. They should all follow Bagheri's steps.

[Mani]

i meant in land, not population, so I am correct :rolleyes:
Fool#1: I'm saying something totally irrelevant :kiss:
simply owned :rolling:
Fool#2: simply owned :drool:

[judicatormd]

Tork yo and Mani are both going 2 new lows. I don't expect much better out of the Koreans in this forum.. Andy when besides RAulmadrid have we ever given false statistics... Infact I can name multiple times where Dr. Oracle has... and u all stood behind him. We have the most talent we always have and we still do to this day. IF u want 2 argue that then ur stupid im not gonna bother arguin with you. Since we have done this on a number of threads and the Iranians have proven to have had the best record in Asia...Outside of of 02 has japan or korea done anything good besides reach the world cup ummm no... North Koreans i don't care about 1 good tournament prolly on steriods or maybe just trained their balls off. Anyway I have applied to be a mod and I plan to clean up these forums if Val writes back.

lol. very funny post...

[judicatormd]

I hope fridays match Iran VS Japan turns out to be a draw because seriously, I don't think I can take this anymore. :ronaldo: :D :thumbsup:

i hope japan wins i am tired of racist persian punk kids.

[AstonVillaFan 2]

im just gonna pretend your not talking about me...What have I said thats racist???

[Toke-E-Yo]

i hope japan wins i am tired of racist persian punk kids.


aston has a point, but still! THis is goin to be a grewat game, but Im worried, because Japan has switched form a 3-5-2 to a 4-4-2, and Japan has played really well with 3-5-2

and there has also been some problems at the training camps, listen to this

Japan's players closed ranks on Thursday after captain Hidetoshi Nakata was involved in a heated row in training ahead of Friday's FIFA World Cup qualifier in Iran.
Nakata and fellow midfielder Takashi Fukunishi were embroiled in a bust-up over tactics in Tehran on Wednesday. "It was just an exchange of opinions between the holding midfielders, 'Hide' and the defenders," Fukunishi was quoted as saying in the Sports Nippon daily.

Japan coach Zico and midfielder Shinji Ono had to restrain Nakata and Fukunishi. A few of the players are uncomfortable that Zico has opted to switch from a 3-5-2 to a 4-4-2 system to accommodate Nakata, who will be playing his first international for a year in Friday's Group B game.

Japan beat North Korea 2-1 at home last month in their opening match in the final round of Asian 2006 World Cup qualifiers while Iran were held 0-0 in Bahrain.

"We're used to playing 3-5-2 and feel comfortable with it," said defender Tsuneyasu Miyamoto. "I don't think we have enough time to make a new system work."

German-based striker Naohiro Takahara also voiced concern about Zico's tactical switch. "We've changed the formation with Nakata coming back," he said. "But I'm not convinced it's the best system for the team."




AND!

Japan's Hidetoshi Nakata will mark his international return by leading out the side in Friday's FIFA World Cup qualifier in Iran, Japan coach Zico said on Wednesday.
The Italian-based playmaker has not played for Japan since a 2-1 victory over Singapore in the first round of Asian Zone World Cup qualifiers a year ago due to groin and back injuries.

"He doesn't have to be Japan's saviour," said Zico, under pressure after Japan's lucky 2-1 win over Korea DPR in their opening game in the final round of Asian qualifiers.

"The captain will be Hide Nakata. He was at a low point but he is back now and he has an important job to do. He can give us a big lift."

Japan won the Asian Cup without Nakata and fellow European-based midfielders Shinji Ono and Junichi Inamoto last year. Feyenoord's Ono and Cardiff City's Inamoto are also back in the squad for the visit to Tehran following lengthy injury lay-offs.

Iran were held to a goalless draw in Bahrain in their opening Group B game last month. The top two teams from each of the two four-team groups qualify automatically for next year's World Cup in Germany.





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[AstonVillaFan 2]

Wow... and I thought Iran has bad team work... Zico usually wins games I think he will be ok. Iran is missin some players so i think it will balance out. Game is today boys...

[nachi88]

all the best to both the teams.

[Toke-E-Yo]

NOOOO!!!! Japan lost :dead:

but that was a very good game, i thought! hats off to he Iranians, cant wait to play again in Japan (in which I hope I can get tickets to go attend) In Japan!

so the standigns are

Iran 4
Bahrain 4
Japan 3
N. Korea 0


Looks liek Japan has to win against Bahrain or we are SCREWED!

[DrPhil1013]

wow nice game i guess. I was rootin' for Japan but I guess Iran outplayed them. O well. G'luck to Japan in next game.

[Sol_Badguy79]

wow nice game i guess. I was rootin' for Japan but I guess Iran outplayed them. O well. G'luck to Japan in next game.

Overall Iran played better and deserved to win. Its a shame Japan only took one of the few chances they had. Perhaps Yanagisawa should start next time, he seemed better at holding the ball up than Tamada or Takahara (in that game anyway).

[ARBANITAI]

Overall Iran played better and deserved to win. Its a shame Japan only took one of the few chances they had. Perhaps Yanagisawa should start next time, he seemed better at holding the ball up than Tamada or Takahara (in that game anyway).


GOooooo IRAN anyway great victory from IRAN :evil:

[ferdi77]

good job japan

well fought game, nakata really surpised me w/ his skill......

go iran!

hope 2 see u again in japan

:kiss:

[Jager]

http://www.persianfootball.com/news/images/hashemian%20playing.jpg


The Man himself..... ;) there was a reason I posted that pic last week...

He almost scored a third goal but he didn't get a good swing at the ball.


Great game, pretty exciting, Iran controlled 80% of the game and had more scoring chances, the Japanese goal was pure,,, well the guy was in the right place at the right time.

The score should have been 6-2 for Iran

I'm sure it will be tougher for Iran in Japan but they have to go through N.Korea first... right now N.Korea is very dangerous since they've lost two games and need a win or else they're out.... also I'm very disappointed at N.Korea for losing to Bahrain, I'm not a big fan of Bahrain... good start for their new coach though...

I preditct a win for Iran and Japan on Wednesday.

[AstonVillaFan 2]

my prediction is we will against N Korea and draw in Japan. N Korea is really dissapointing and N korea is prolly gonna respect Iran to much in the game. Bahrain might be the real shocker folks.

[Toke-E-Yo]

good job japan

well fought game, nakata really surpised me w/ his skill......


yah i was really surprised, he was alot more on form than any of his fiorentina games!

[Toke-E-Yo]

http://www.persianfootball.com/news/images/hashemian%20playing.jpg


I preditct a win for Iran and Japan on Wednesday.


me to, Japan is In a MUST WIN Situation!

[Mani]

Who has been the only Asian player EVER to score 16 goals in a single season in a major European league?

Vahid Hashrmian of Iran! Nicknamed "Helicopter" in Germany and Europe!

http://www.hashemian.net/gallerie/vflspiel4/images/big/11.jpg
then why hasnt he been won for Asian Player of the Year?
Now you are going to remember the name forever! 2005 Asian player of the year: Vahid Hashemian! :)

[Toke-E-Yo]

Now you are going to remember the name forever! 2005 Asian player of the year: Vahid Hashemian! :)

there has only ever been a 3 country run once before, S Korea, and the same person won 3 times in a row!

im callin 2005 Asian Footballer of the year: Yuji Nakazawa

[penrash]

yeah well you asian faggets can go and suck ya mums balls

[AstonVillaFan 2]

Ban Penrush... Hashmenian deserves it.. Ether him or Mahdavkia honestly Nazawaka i would prefer Ono....

[RedDevilZ]

yeah well you asian faggets can go and suck ya mums balls

If you do have it.....

[RedDevilZ]

NAWW.W... Its so biased... People are choosing their own player..

The nominees are going to be

Hashemian or Nakazawa or J.S Park

and Whos the best..?? We will have to see...

All three are doing their best...

[RedDevilZ]

Hey.. TOKYO..!!

Your thread has been read more than 2500 times.. CONGRATS..>!!

[AstonVillaFan 2]

Its always tough to call... Karimi isn't impressing me. Hashmenian is doing awesome! Mahdavkia is doing great also. Nakazawa i hvn't really watched. Park Ji Sung... Ummm i watched 1 korean game and that was with the Saudi Korea match... He was pretty good I still think its gonna be an Iranian battle...

[RedDevilZ]

Its always tough to call... Karimi isn't impressing me. Hashmenian is doing awesome! Mahdavkia is doing great also. Nakazawa i hvn't really watched. Park Ji Sung... Ummm i watched 1 korean game and that was with the Saudi Korea match... He was pretty good I still think its gonna be an Iranian battle...


No doubt Hasemeian and Mahdavikia is playing well...

but We will have to see... kkkk

[AstonVillaFan 2]

yup

[RaulMadrid7]

I just saw 3 videos (each 20 minutes long) of the interviews of Iranian players after the Japan vs Iran match and they seemed very calm about how far they would reach in the world cup.

But I think this is thier exact problem, Iran has the talent, skills, etc... to go very far in the world cup, but what they really need is lots of enthusiasm because I don't know if they acted like they did because they were tired after the match but I was seriously expecting alot more excitement.

Anyways, we will do good in the WC 2006 (hopefull), lol, and I hope Japan and South Korea can follow so that there will be great hope for all of us in thw world cup 2006.

Good luck to all. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[AstonVillaFan 2]

Iran needs teamwork. If they have that they can match top teams in the world.

[Toke-E-Yo]

I was really surpirsed that Nakazawa wasnt nominated for the AFC ASian player of the year, and that he wasnt voted MVP of the asian cup. I was actually pissed off that Nakamura won it, all he did was make some nice kciks. Nakazawa saved Japans ass more than any other defender. I hope he at least gets nominated for Asian Player of the year, because he is a very talented defender, and once his name gets out, he will be huge.

PS Nakazawa was named top Japanese player of the year Asian Times, and all the Japanese newspapers

[AstonVillaFan 2]

Karimi dominated the Asian Cup... He will be great in Europe. Quite possibly in La Liga or Seria A

[Toke-E-Yo]

more news that i Found, doesnt really have to do with Iran, but does huge with Japan.

Nakata says he will step aside if it gives Japan a World Cup spot
8 April 2005
by AFP


Fiorentina midfielder Hidetoshi Nakata, out of top form due to injury, says he will quit Japan's struggling national team if it will ensure them a place at the 2006 FIFA World Cup Germanyâ„¢.
But the 28-year-old, who has returned to the World Cup battle for the last two qualifiers after a 11-month absence, vowed to give all he has for what would be his "last chance" on the premier stage of world football.

"I simply wish to have Japan's national team win through the final qualifying round and earn a berth in the 2006 World Cup finals in Germany," the former Asian footballer of the year said in his latest message on his website.

"It will probably be the last chance for me. I want to make up for the 2002 finals in which I failed to deliver," he added.

"But at the same time, I will gladly withdraw if I really obstruct Japan's national team ... and if it certainly opens the road to Germany for us," Nakata said.

Japan coach Zico was much criticised after a 2-1 away loss to Iran last month, when he changed his formation from the usual 3-5-2 to 4-4-2 to accommodate Nakata.

Japan usually play with three midfielders plus two wing-backs. But Nakata, who has often sat on the bench in Serie A this term, joined three regulars in the midfield.

The shift from the formation which helped Japan retain the Asian Cup last August cost them dearly, although Nakata dazzled with a few brilliant passes.

A 1-0 home win over Bahrain last week, courtesy of an own goal, helped quieten some of the criticism and put Japan second behind Iran in Asia's Group B.

Nakata said Japan lost to Iran because they were inferior in one-on-one battles - not because of the formation. Conversely, Japan excelled against Bahrain in such a situation. "It is the most basic of all basics in soccer," he said.




I think Nakata is doing a brave thing, offering to step down...but then again, I hate Zico and i can also admit Nakata shouldnt have been on the NT after the Iran Game

[sepidehh]

this post is not really related to nakata or....it's just about the victims in Azadi accident...I'm really sorry for interrupting you... :dontcare:

I have translated this text from Persian to English, so maybe I have made some mistakes. So please accept my apology.
Mohammad Jaffari a 12 years old boy .the 7th and the youngest victim, of the Azadi accident. He passed away on 2nd of April. His father explains the story.
"At 10 pm they called me from hospital that our son-in-law (Mehdi) has injured. When I saw my son's name in the list of injuries, I became feeble. I went to the room that Mohammad was there. At first I didn't know him, because his face was covered in blood. In that hospital there was nothing. Even a doctor!! Anyway Mohammad was in coma 9 days and then he left us. I have told ma family I'll fire myself in Azadi if they don't investigate the reason of the death."

"In the last minutes we went towards the maid door, but we saw that all of the doors are close and we weren't permitted to leave. Even in front of the main door was put a helicopter. It was very dark. For a moment I didn't understand what happened. I fell down and when I opened my eyes I couldn't find Hamed and Mohammad." Mehdi explains.

"In that darkness when I was going towards the doors I slid and fell down .I tried hard to stand up but I couldn't. I can just remember that people trampled me and after that I can't remember anything."Hamed explains.

This accident happened in Nowrooz holiday, when a lot of Iranians were celebrating the New Year and the victory of Iran …

[Toke-E-Yo]

well who are you supposed to blame? and it was a stupid thing, to let another 30,000 people in to the stadium :grumpy: :annoyed: , some one was bound to get killed...just cant believe it was a kid that young

[RaulMadrid7]

well who are you supposed to blame? and it was a stupid thing, to let another 30,000 people in to the stadium :grumpy: :annoyed: , some one was bound to get killed...just cant believe it was a kid that young

Yeah, I feel sorry for him and his family but it's not very unussual if you know what is going on in Iran right now.

[Toke-E-Yo]

Yeah, I feel sorry for him and his family but it's not very unussual if you know what is going on in Iran right now.


a democratic movemnt? But doing that ina crowded stadium is like running in to the corner, and calling mike tyson a pussy. its just stupid. If your gonna hold rallies that will piss of your government, do it a open area, so you can run like shit when the guns start poppin

[Toke-E-Yo]

Yes Yes Y`all, from West West Y`all,


It`s that time again to bring this subjeoct up! What do u think? Aug 17th, Japan V Iran in Japan (Saitama? Nat`l stadium?)

If ZIco calls ses the lineup he is using against the UAE and Peru, and the confederatiosn Cup, Iran is guaranteed the 3 points. But hopefully, Japan would have fired Zico, and hired Troussier or Rui Ramos

[AstonVillafan3]

I dunno I think its gonna be a draw... I think Zico will use some of his Japanese Euro stars like Ono, Inamoto, Hattori, im guessing Nakakata, and Takahara.
Personally though Iran looks strong right now...I doubt we will lose a single match...

I want to say one thing to the people at this Asian forum you all piss me off I have been looking at some past threads...
Tok-yo the minute some one says racist things about Iran you say no don't ban them... The minute its about Japan you have zero tolerance policy now thats not biased at all.....
I cannot wait when Iran goes undefeated.
I am gonna laugh so incredibly hard... We got good youth and fossils from the 90 can still get contracts in Europe!!! I love the inferioty complex of you guys its awesome... Personally though formation of choice right now for Iran is this

Hashmian Azizi, Mobali, Daei... Who do you want in there
Karimi
Navidkia Zandi Kazemian Mahdavkia
Medgdi Neukonam Bagheri....Put one of those guys in there in the mid
Kabeii Rezaei Tagizpour
Mizapour

Personally I don't see how Japan can even win right now... Especially with Zico using his nice J league players... My guess is a draw.

[Toke-E-Yo]

Personally I don't see how Japan can even win right now... Especially with Zico using his nice J league players... My guess is a draw.


Bingo, and thats how Zico works, calling up his beloved Kashima Antlers team

[AstonVillafan3]

I still wish we had Daei but im guessing Italy still wants Maldini. Losing Azizi isn't that bad... Still wish we had Bagheri though....

[Toke-E-Yo]

I want to say one thing to the people at this Asian forum you all piss me off I have been looking at some past threads...
Tok-yo the minute some one says racist things about Iran you say no don't ban them... The minute its about Japan you have zero tolerance policy now thats not biased at all.....


by the way the awnser to yur question is beacuse
1. I am the only Japanese in here, so I have to be on the offensive, or else people would walk all over me
2. You are not the only Iranian in here, so you have a defence, as do the Koreans
3. I do not know what you consider racist, but I will look back on my posts and see if it is true to what you say.

Happy?:rolling:

[RaulMadrid7]

by the way the awnser to yur question is beacuse
1. I am the only Japanese in here, so I have to be on the offensive, or else people would walk all over me
2. You are not the only Iranian in here, so you have a defence, as do the Koreans
3. I do not know what you consider racist, but I will look back on my posts and see if it is true to what you say.

Happy?:rolling:

Come on Toke-E-Yo you know it's true, you have been on the "other side" for a while now and I think it's time you admited it. :D

[Toke-E-Yo]

Come on Toke-E-Yo you know it's true, you have been on the "other side" for a while now and I think it's time you admited it. :D

Ok Ok! I confess :cry: I am also secretly a England Fan! (but I have british Blood so its all good)


But really....
On the other side of what? :confused:

[AstonVillafan3]

I dunno but these Koreans piss me off they always claim they are the bst... All they have is the World Cups and Iran is everyway superior... and They didn't even win a single match in the World Cup till 02 where they hosted! So many Spanish and Italian fans have made huge threads about the cheating with almost perfect proof...
It just pisses me off I want everyone to stop bitching about superiorty and just talk soccer.

[Toke-E-Yo]

I dunno but these Koreans piss me off they always claim they are the bst... All they have is the World Cups and Iran is everyway superior... and They didn't even win a single match in the World Cup till 02 where they hosted! So many Spanish and Italian fans have made huge threads about the cheating with almost perfect proof...
It just pisses me off I want everyone to stop bitching about superiorty and just talk soccer.

Well any team that loses to a worse team (especially in a International Event) will make a inquiry...I dont know about spain, but the Italians were cocky as HELL

[AstonVillafan3]

The Italians are cocky about everything and use cheap fouls to try and win, however they are a good team.

[Toke-E-Yo]

The Italians are cocky about everything and use cheap fouls to try and win, however they are a good team.
hahaha I agree, but did u know that Christain Vieri`s brother isnt gonna play for Italy? He is gonna play for Australia (Both their birth county) instead

[nachi88]

The Italians are cocky about everything and use cheap fouls to try and win, however they are a good team.

your statement perfectly describes present italian football. Only the last part( the bold part) is wrong.

[Toke-E-Yo]

your statement perfectly describes present italian football. Only the last part( the bold part) is wrong.


Lol, I take it ure not a fan of Italian football, So I am guessing that uo are...Greek?

Any ways back to the Iran-Japan.