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Highway Penguin

02-08-2005, 03:29 AM

Germany Keen On Argentina Match

On Oct. 7, 2000, Germany made history by beating England 1-0 in the final game to be played at old Wembley. Since then, Germany has been establishing a record it would rather not have.

For four years and four months, the country has been waiting to beat another top-ranked team, losing eight and drawing two against so-called traditional soccer powers.

Looking further back, Germany has won only two of the last 20 games against such teams since 1996.

The next chance will come Wednesday in Duesseldorf when Germany plays Argentina, considered by many as the best team in the world at the moment.

Argentina leads the South American World Cup qualifying, ahead of five-time World Cup champion Brazil.

"For us, the Argentina match is a real highlight that we want to win at all cost," Germany coach Juergen Klinsmann said. "It's time to beat another big team again."

The game kicks off Germany's preparations for next year's World Cup on home soil. Klinsmann has been in charge for just over six months and has made winning soccer's most prestigious title his goal.

To achieve that, Klinsmann has set a crowded schedule of exhibition matches since Germany, as host, is the only team that doesn't have to qualify.

Klinsmann takes a 5-1-1 record into the match, which includes a 1-1 draw against Brazil in September.

Germany will play Argentina again this summer during the Confederations Cup, the dress rehearsal for the World Cup.

"It's important to win to gain self-confidence for the Confederations Cup and the World Cup," striker Kevin Kuranyi said. "We want to show the fans, the competition and ourselves that our goal of winning the World Cup title is realistic."

Argentina, Olympic champion in Athens last year, is one of the few teams to have a winning record against Germany, with seven wins, five defeats and two draws. Argentina has won the last two matches.

The two teams have met twice in World Cup finals, with Germany avenging its 1986 loss with a victory in the 1990 final, when it won the last of its three World Cup titles and when Klinsmann was still the team's striker.

Argentina also has a new coach in Jose Pekerman, who is undefeated in four games (three wins, one draw). Pekerman won the world U-21 title three times before stepping in for Marcelo Bielsa, who resigned unexpectedly after the triumph in Athens.

"The match against Germany is a very important test for us," Pekerman said. "The Germans are in a team-building phase and so are we."

Pekerman has recalled two veterans - striker Hernan Crespo of AC Milan and Valencia midfielder Pablo Aimar.

Crespo hasn't played for the national team since June, but the striker has recovered his goal-scoring touch since moving to Milan from Chelsea.

Argentina will be without Wolfsburg playmaker Andres D'Alessandro, who is injured.

Klinsmann will be missing two injured defenders, Philipp Lahm and Robert Huth.

Two strikers also have been forced to drop out with injuries - Lukas Podolski and his replacement, Oliver Neuville. Thomas Brdaric received a late call-up Monday to complete the roster.

giorgiob8

02-14-2005, 08:03 PM

I am actually extremely pleased with the way Germany played, specially the first half when they put so much pressure in the midfield that Argentina was not able to put more than two passes together to dry out their strikers; if we put aside the score and look at the facts; first Argentina's goal was a gift from the referee on a noon existing penalty and for the most part the scoring chances were overwhelmingly on Germanyâ€™s side. Add the fact of Germany missing more key players than them.

Germanyâ€™s second half wasnâ€™t bad either, but too similar to what they have played in the last 10 years that brings mixed results, most the time not working right against top teams. If Germany can figure out a second world class striker to compliment Kuranyi they will have it all at WC2006 to win.

nachi88

02-15-2005, 06:27 AM

arminius

02-15-2005, 06:42 AM

benny lauth is another who shows potential but he's as injury prone as sebastian deisler.

nachi88

02-15-2005, 08:58 AM

benny lauth is another who shows potential but he's as injury prone as sebastian deisler.

i think lukas is a better striker. he isnt afraid to take on players, he is fast and has a good heading ability also. also he has age on his side, he is only 19. the only problem is that, he is playing in 2 bundesliga right now.

giorgiob8

02-18-2005, 07:19 PM

nachi88

02-19-2005, 12:33 PM

:-) Lukas Podolski can be one, the problem is that we are technically one year away, whoever is going to fill the spot has to be called right now, play at this summer nations cup (WC rehersal) otherwise that player -as good as he might be- can get dilutted by the pressure of the WC. So far, even Kuranyi is one notch below that level but I am confident he is going to break through in the months ahead.

Kuranyi's there for sure. But who will partner him

Klose - good with head, but very unreliable other wise. Has many bad patches
Brdaric- like henry, god for club, bad for country
Lauth- Rough player and l;ots of offsides. no big match experience
Bobic- Old as my grandma, i remeber seeing him in NT colours when i was in 8th grade.
Podolski- Talented, tackles well, no big match experience
Asmoah - crap in bundesliga and crap for NT

Of all the choices, I would go for Podolski, and keep lauth/klose as back up.

nachi88

02-28-2005, 05:31 AM

Hey, intresting news

Klinsmann wants to appoint Berti Vogts as cheif scout and assistant trainer. The finalisation of deal will be done with DFB later today. It will be great to have him back. Its the euro 96 winning combination once again. Now we will repeat euro 96 at wc06 ;)

RonaldoD08

02-28-2005, 05:44 AM

I like the way Germnay is admistrating its national team lately. These guys were great players, let's hope they prove themselves great administrators too.

arminius

02-28-2005, 05:57 AM

[QUOTE=nachi88]Hey, intresting news

Klinsmann wants to appoint Berti Vogts as cheif scout and assistant trainer. The finalisation of deal will be done with DFB later today. It will be great to have him back. Its the euro 96 winning combination once again. Now we will repeat euro 96 at wc06 ;)[/QUOTE
Just about the whole coaching staff were members of that great euro'96team.
coach klinsmann- captain at euro96
asistant bierhoff- scored winning goal in final at euro96
asistant vogts - winning coach euro96
Gk coach koepke- gk hero of euro96(especially v italy and england)
also other euro96 members Dieter eilts and juergen kohler are in charge of the german youth teams, hopefully the winning mentality will be passed on to the current players because 10 years without a trophy is to long to wait for a nation with germany's football pedigree.

RonaldoD08

02-28-2005, 06:00 AM

because 10 years without a trophy is to long to wait for a nation with germany's football pedigree.

I agree...

nachi88

02-28-2005, 06:37 AM

arminius

02-28-2005, 06:53 AM

Is Andreas Kopke also signed as goalkeeping coach?? The last i heard about him, was that he was doing a musical on football in Salzburg. Now the only person missing is Andreas Moller. They should get him to train the mid fields on the art of effective one touch passing. I am all of a sudden extremely optimistic.
koepke was signed a few months back after klinsmann asked sepp maier to leave, klinsmann was annoyed with maier for criticising jens lehmann in the press and openly favouring oliver kahn as his #1 for 2006, a sad situation really but i'm sure koepke should be an adequate replacement...btw did'nt know he could sing.

nachi88

03-16-2005, 11:45 AM

Germany(away) vs Slovenia(home) comming up, on march 26. Does any body know when the team will be announced? Any predictions on this one.

baggy

03-16-2005, 09:02 PM

Germany(away) vs Slovenia(home) comming up, on march 26. Does any body know when the team will be announced? Any predictions on this one.

Here it is:

Das deutsche Aufgebot:

Tor: Oliver Kahn (Bayern MÃ¼nchen), Jens Lehmann (FC Arsenal)

Abwehr: Arne Friedrich (Hertha BSC Berlin), Andreas Hinkel (VfB Stuttgart), Robert Huth (FC Chelsea), Per Mertesacker (Hannover 96), Patrick Owomoyela (Arminia Bielefeld), Christian Schulz (Werder Bremen)

Mittelfeld: Michael Ballack (Bayern MÃ¼nchen), Frank Baumann, Tim Borowski (beide Werder Bremen), Torsten Frings (Bayern MÃ¼nchen), Thomas Hitzlsperger (Aston Villa), Bernd Schneider (Bayer Leverkusen), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern MÃ¼nchen)

Angriff: Miroslav Klose (Werder Bremen), Kevin Kuranyi (VfB Stuttgart), Lukas Podolski (1. FC KÃ¶ln), Oliver Neuville (Borussia MÃ¶nchengladbach)

www.kicker.de (http://www.kicker.de/content/news/artikel.asp?folder=7100&object=312257&liga=1&saison=2004/05&spieltag=25&gruppe=10578)

arminius

03-17-2005, 01:56 AM

Klinsmann seems to be bringing back a few oldies into the team recently like hamann,babbel,neuville etc., don't know if thats a good idea coz thus far he's done really well by playing mostly young talent, though i suppose we do need a few veterans in there as well for the sake of experience.
The slovenia match could be tougher than some might think, their decent opposition on their home turf beating italy in a world cup qualifier not long ago.

nachi88

03-17-2005, 06:59 AM

nachi88

03-24-2005, 11:03 AM

DFB is offering money if we win world cup...

here is article

Die deutsche Nationalmannschaft wird bei der Weltmeisterschaft 2006 fÃ¼r den Fall des Titelgewinns eine PrÃ¤mie von 300.000 Euro pro Spieler erhalten. "Wir sind sehr froh Ã¼ber die schnelle und frÃ¼hzeitige Einigung. Mit dieser Regelung ist uns ein erfolgsorientierter Abschluss gelungen, mit dem beide Seiten sehr gut leben kÃ¶nnen. Damit ist eine Basis geschaffen, um die WM-Vorbereitungen in den kommenden Monaten weiterhin konzentriert voranzutreiben", sagte Gerhard Mayer-Vorfelder nach dem Treffen am Mittwochabend in Frankfurt am Main. Neben dem DFB-PrÃ¤sidenten nahmen auch der GeschÃ¤ftsfÃ¼hrende PrÃ¤sident Dr. Theo Zwanziger, GeneralsekretÃ¤r Horst R. Schmidt, Manager Oliver Bierhoff und KapitÃ¤n Michael Ballack als einziger Vertreter der Mannschaft teil.

Erstmals bei einem WM oder EM-Turnier werden die deutschen Nationalspieler fÃ¼r das Erreichen des Achtelfinales keine PrÃ¤mie erhalten. Beim Einzug in das Viertelfinale werden 50.000 Euro pro Spieler gezahlt, fÃ¼r den VorstoÃŸ ins Halbfinale gibt es 100.000 Euro. FÃ¼r den Fall einer Finalniederlage wurden 150.000 Euro pro Akteur vereinbart.

FÃ¼r den Confederations Cup 2005 wurde folgende PrÃ¤mienregelung pro Spieler beschlossen: Der Titel bei der Generalprobe fÃ¼r die WM 2006 wird mit 60.000 Euro entlohnt, das Erreichen des Finales bringt 20.000 Euro und der Einzug ins Halbfinale 10.000 Euro.

Zudem wurde festgelegt, dass die Nationalspieler rÃ¼ckwirkend zum 1. August 2004 eine SpielprÃ¤mie von 7.500 Euro pro LÃ¤nderspiel erhalten. Mit dieser Vereinbarung soll der Ausfall einer sonst Ã¼blichen WM-Qualifikations-PrÃ¤mie kompensiert werden.
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This is so damn stupid, we dont need money to motivate our players to winn world cup. This is not saudi arabia or zaire nt. I personally would take it as an insult on my integrity if some one offered me more money for winning. Winning wc is a matter of national pride, and not money. I hope Klinsmann accept this stupid offer. The money can be spent, rather providing good infrastructure to football academies in the east.

nachi88

03-26-2005, 05:31 AM

U21 football..... England 2- Germany 2, Germany retains top spot in group...

Die U 21-Nationalmannschaft des Deutschen FuÃŸball-Bundes (DFB) kam im Rahmen der EM-Qualifikation unter den Augen des GeschÃ¤ftsfÃ¼hrenden DFB-PrÃ¤sidenten Dr. Theo Zwanziger in Hull gegen die Auswahl Englands zu einem 2:2 (0:0). In der Qualifikationsgruppe 6 belegt die DFB-Auswahl nach dem Remis mit elf Punkten aufgrund des besseren TorverhÃ¤ltnisses weiterhin Platz eins. England ist mit ebenfalls elf ZÃ¤hlern Zweiter.

Im Vergleich zum 4:0-Erfolg in Wales Anfang Februar hatte DFB-Trainer Dieter Eilts sein Team auf drei Positionen verÃ¤ndert. FÃ¼r den verletzten Freiburger Sascha Riether rÃ¼ckte der wieder genesene Lukas Sinkiewicz von Zweiligist 1. FC KÃ¶ln in die Anfangsformation. Linksverteidiger Christian Pander spielte fÃ¼r den Dortmunder Markus Brzenska und Stefan KieÃŸling vom 1. FC NÃ¼rnberg kam an Stelle von Hertha-Profi Alexander Ludwig ins Team.

Die erste Chance vor 23.000 Zuschauern in Hull hatte die DFB-Auswahl. Marcell Jansen hatte sich auf der linken Seite durchgesetzt, die Flanke des Gladbachers kÃ¶pfte Mike Hanke (Schalke 04) aus sieben Metern knapp Ã¼ber das Tor (7.). In der 24. Minute hatten auch die Gastgeber die erste gute MÃ¶glichkeit. Dean Ashton zog von der Strafraumgrenze ab, doch Michael Rensing im GehÃ¤use des DFB-Teams hatte keinerlei Probleme den Schuss zu entschÃ¤rfen. Nur eine Minute spÃ¤ter der nÃ¤chste Warnschuss der U 21-MÃ¤nner: Einen FreistoÃŸ von Pander konnte Englands Keeper Scott Carson nur mit MÃ¼he um den Pfosten lenken (25.). Wiederum nur kurze Zeit spÃ¤ter waren wieder die Hausherren an der Reihe. Ashton kam aus zehn Metern freistehend zum Schuss, doch der StÃ¼rmer schoss Ã¼ber das DFB-Tor (27.). Die beste MÃ¶glichkeit fÃ¼r die DFB-Auswahl hatte kurz vor der Halbzeit Sahr Senesie. Der Mittelfeldmann traf mit einem Schuss aus 16 Metern die Latte (40.).

Kurz nach dem Seitenwechsel ging das DFB-Team in FÃ¼hrung. Nach einem sehenswerten Spielzug Ã¼ber Hanke, Pander und Stefan KieÃŸling war der NÃ¼rnberger aus knapp zehn Metern zum 1:0 erfolgreich. Der Jubel beim deutschen Team wÃ¤hrte jedoch nicht lange. Fast im Gegenzug kamen die Gastgeber zum Ausgleich. Darren Bent lieÃŸ Rensing mit einem platzierten Kopfball keine AbwehrmÃ¶glichkeit (50.). Wiederum nur zwei Minuten spÃ¤ter gingen die Hausherren sogar in FÃ¼hrung. Ashton traf per Linksschuss in den Winkel zum 2:1 (52.).

In der Folgezeit fand die deutsche Mannschaft wieder ins Spiel, zwingende Torchancen sprangen fÃ¼r das Team von Dieter Eilts jedoch nicht heraus. In der 74. Minute musste Rensing bei einer Doppelchance in hÃ¶chster Not gegen Kieron Richardson retten. Nur wenig spÃ¤ter verfehlte der kurz zuvor eingewechselte Alexander Ludwig mit einem FreistoÃŸ das Tor nur knapp (77.).

Kurz vor dem Ende der Partie gelang der deutschen Auswahl der viel umjubelte Ausgleich. Nach einem Fehler des englischen Keepers Carson traf Roberto Hilbert bei seinem U 21-DebÃ¼t aus 16 Metern zum 2:2 (89.).

nachi88

03-27-2005, 04:23 AM

Germany won with slovenia 1-0

A goal from newcommer and youngstriker Lukas Podolski

Die deutsche Nationalmannschaft hat das Freundschaftsspiel in Slowenien mit 1:0 (1:0) gewonnen. Den Siegtreffer fÃ¼r die DFB-Auswahl erzielte Lukas Podolski in der 27. Minute.

Bei strÃ¶mendem Regen begann die deutsche Mannschaft in der "Petrol Arena" von Celje verhaltener als in den vorangegangenen Partien und kam erst in der 20. Minute durch einen FreistoÃŸ von Michael Ballack zu ihrer ersten Torgelegenheit. Die offensive 4-3-3-Aufstellung von Bundestrainer JÃ¼rgen Klinsmann brachte anfÃ¤nglich nicht den gewÃ¼nschten Erfolg. Die drei StÃ¼rmer Podolski, Miroslav Klose und Oliver Neuville hingen in der Luft und bekamen kaum verwertbare Anspiele. Auch KapitÃ¤n Ballack, der zuletzt beim ersten LÃ¤nderspiel des Jahres in DÃ¼sseldorf gegen Argentinien (2:2) gefehlt hatte, konnte zunÃ¤chst nicht fÃ¼r die gewÃ¼nschten Impulse sorgen.

Gemeinsam mit "RÃ¼ckkehrer" Neuville leitete Ballack dann aber die FÃ¼hrung fÃ¼r die DFB-Auswahl ein. Nach einem Doppelpass mit dem MÃ¼nchner wurde der Schuss des erstmals seit 11 Monaten wieder im Nationalteam eingesetzten Gladbachers abgeblockt, Podolski reagierte blitzschnell und schob das Leder in der 27. Minute unhaltbar fÃ¼r den slowenischen Torwart Samir Handavonic ein. FÃ¼r den 19 Jahre alten Zweitliga-TorjÃ¤ger vom 1. FC KÃ¶ln war es das dritte LÃ¤nderspieltor.

Brenzlig wurde es dann aber direkt nach dem Seitenwechsel. Der in der Halbzeit eingewechselte Sebastijan Cimirotic tauchte wenige Sekunden nach dem Wiederanpfiff (46.) mutterseelenallein vor DFB-TorhÃ¼ter Oliver Kahn auf und zwang den Keeper in seinem 77. LÃ¤nderspiel zu einer Glanzparade. Nach der darauffolgenden Ecke reagierte Fabijan Cipot am Schnellsten und befÃ¶rderte das Leder per Kopf an die Unterkante des DFB-GehÃ¤uses.

Auf der Gegenseite hatte Michael Ballack in der 50. Minute Pech, als Handanovic seinen Fernschuss mit einer tollen Parade Ã¼ber die Latte lenken konnte. Auch in der 55. Minute zeigte der Keeper des italienischen Serie-A-Klubs Udinese Calcio bei einem Drehschuss von Neuville sein ganzes KÃ¶nnen.

In der Folgezeit versuchten die Gastgeber den Druck zu erhÃ¶hen, blieben aber zumeist in der deutschen Hintermannschaft hÃ¤ngen. Eine weitere Riesenchance zum Ausgleich verpassten die Slowenen in der 79. Minute, als der eingewechselte Bastian Schweinsteiger mit einem Kopfball auf der Linie klÃ¤ren konnte. Drei Minuten vor dem Spielende (87.) scheiterte wiederum Cipot in aussichtsreicher Position, so dass es am Ende beim knappen 1:0-Erfolg fÃ¼r die DFB-Auswahl blieb.

Ballymena Man

05-10-2005, 08:22 PM

nachi88

05-10-2005, 09:13 PM

Hey Guys,
I'm from Northern Ireland and as you may or may not know,we are playing you on 4th June.

There has been a debate on a Northern Ireland forum about whether the song 'Dambusters' would offend you or not so I decided to come on here and see what the opinion is.

We sing this tune at most matches just because we like the tune but were wondering whether we should stop singing it because of what it is realated to. i.e World War.

Thanks
BM

welcome man...

i havent heard the song, if you could be more specific about its lyrics maybe I could tell you for sure, but its better to avoid war related songs out of respect for the feelings of the opponents.
I knew we were playing u guys next. The game is in away for us.

Ballymena Man

05-10-2005, 09:36 PM

welcome man...

i havent heard the song, if you could be more specific about its lyrics maybe I could tell you for sure, but its better to avoid war related songs out of respect for the feelings of the opponents.
I knew we were playing u guys next. The game is in away for us.

Thanks for the welcome.
It's a song written for the RAF or something after the war.I don't really know the history of it.

There are no words,it's just a tune and everyone puts their arms out and moves like a plane and goes De De De De De De,etc

nachi88

05-10-2005, 09:56 PM

Thanks for the welcome.
It's a song written for the RAF or something after the war.I don't really know the history of it.

There are no words,it's just a tune and everyone puts their arms out and moves like a plane and goes De De De De De De,etc

Then i'd suggest, it better not be sung that day, and some other song which doesnt bring out painfull memories back to be sung.

i'm sure there would be other equally melodious songs which both sets of fans can actually sing together.

peace

Ballymena Man

05-10-2005, 10:09 PM

Then i'd suggest, it better not be sung that day, and some other song which doesnt bring out painfull memories back to be sung.

i'm sure there would be other equally melodious songs which both sets of fans can actually sing together.

peace
Right thanks for that.

I'll probably be on here again nearer the time of the match

Maccabi 4ever

05-12-2005, 03:56 PM

I think the germans will get deep and the only team that will shut them down is Brazil

Nebeltier

05-18-2005, 02:51 PM

Bundestrainer JÃ¼rgen Klinsmann hat das Aufgebot fÃ¼r den vom 15. bis 29. Juni in Deutschland stattfindenden Confederations-Cup bekanntgegeben. Etwas Ã¼berraschend stehen Neuling Mike Hanke und Routinier Dietmar Hamann im 23-kÃ¶pfigen Aufgebot.

Verzichten mÃ¼ssen Klinsmann und LÃ¶w auf Stuttgarts Linksverteidiger Philipp Lahm. Der 21-JÃ¤hrige, der nach Saisonende zum FC Bayern zurÃ¼ckkehren wird, erlitt am Dienstag im Training der Stuttgarter einen Kreuzbandriss und wird wohl mindestens ein halbes Jahr pausieren mÃ¼ssen.

Mit der erstmaligen Nominierung des 21-jÃ¤hrigen StÃ¼rmers Hanke setzt Klinsmann, in dessen Ã„ra bisher acht Spieler ihr DFB-DebÃ¼t feierten, seinen Kurs fort, der Jugend eine Chance zu geben. Der Schalker war bisher KapitÃ¤n der deutschen "U21".

Erstmals seit Klinsmanns Amtsantritt gehÃ¶rt auch England-LegionÃ¤r Hamann wieder zum Aufgebot der Nationalelf. Der 31-JÃ¤hrige, der mit Liverpool am 25. Mai in Istanbul gegen den AC Mailand im Finale der Champions League steht, bestritt sein letztes von bisher 58 LÃ¤nderspielen am 23. Juni 2004 beim EM-Vorrundenaus in Portugal gegen Tschechien (1:2).

Bayerns Mittelfeldspieler Sebastian Deisler nimmt nun erwartungsgemÃ¤ÃŸ doch am Confed Cup teil, obwohl es um seine Nominierung seit Wochen Diskussionen gegeben hat. Er trug zuletzt am 9. Oktober 2004 in Teheran gegen den Iran (2:0) das DFB-Trikot. AnschlieÃŸend war der 25-JÃ¤hrige wegen erneuter gesundheitlicher Probleme nicht mehr berÃ¼cksichtigt worden. Beim FC Bayern saÃŸ Deisler in den vergangenen Wochen meist auf der Ersatzbank.

Neben Lahm, der vom Bremer Christian Schulz ersetzt wird, fehlen im 23-kÃ¶pfigen DFB-Kader auch die Routiniers Christian WÃ¶rns (Dortmund), Markus Babbel (Stuttgart), Frank Baumann (Bremen) und Oliver Neuville (MÃ¶nchengladbach). Der Dortmunder, der sich seit einiger Zeit mit HÃ¼ftproblemen plagt, wird laut Klinsmann geschont. WÃ¶rns sei aber weiterhin "eine der SÃ¤ulen unserer Mannschaft". Der Abwehrspieler werde beim ersten LÃ¤nderspiel der neuen Saison in den Niederlanden (17. August) automatisch zurÃ¼ckkehren.

Die deutsche Nationalmannschaft bestreitet beim Confederations Cup ihr erstes Match am 15. Juni 2005 (20.45 Uhr) in Frankfurt/Main gegen Australien. Am 18. Juni 2005 (18.00 Uhr) ist Tunesien in KÃ¶ln der zweite Gegner. Zum Abschluss der Vorrunde trifft die Auswahl von Bundestrainer JÃ¼rgen Klinsmann am 21. Juni 2005 (20.45 Uhr) in NÃ¼rnberg auf Argentinien.

Das deutsche Aufgebot:

Tor: Oliver Kahn (Bayern MÃ¼nchen), Jens Lehmann (FC Arsenal), Timo Hildebrand (VfB Stuttgart)

Abwehr: Arne Friedrich (Hertha BSC Berlin), Andreas Hinkel (VfB Stuttgart), Robert Huth (FC Chelsea), Per Mertesacker (Hannover 96), Patrick Owomoyela (Arminia Bielefeld), Christian Schulz (Werder Bremen)

Mittelfeld:Michael Ballack (FC Bayern MÃ¼nchen), Tim Borowski (Werder Bremen), Sebastian Deisler (FC Bayern MÃ¼nchen), Fabian Ernst (Werder Bremen), Torsten Frings (FC Bayern MÃ¼nchen), Dietmar Hamann (FC Liverpool), Thomas Hitzlsperger (Aston Villa), Bernd Schneider (Bayer 04 Leverkusen), Bastian Schweinsteiger (FC Bayern MÃ¼nchen)

Angriff: Gerald Asamoah (FC Schalke 04), Mike Hanke (FC Schalke 04), Miroslav Klose (Werder Bremen), Kevin Kuranyi (VfB Stuttgart), Lukas Podolski (1. FC KÃ¶ln)

..............................................................................

I'm very glad for Sebastian...just hope he'll be a starter!
I don't understand why Kehl and Metzelder weren't included (for me it has no sense, as Borussia was the best team in "die ruckrunde" apart from Bayern...I think their work should have been better appreciated)...why persist in selecting an old Hamann and not give a resurgent Kehl a chance?
A bad loss is also the absence of shooting star Philipp Lahm...a sad note for the NT, although I'm sure Hitzlsperger will deputise wery well for the absentee.
To add to all that, I don't like a bit Lehmann and Asamoah being selected (although they were sure things). "The cherry on the cake" will be their inclosure in the WC squad...I just hope they won't be needed in the thick of the action!

Lance Knight

05-18-2005, 03:12 PM

Wednesday, May 18, 2005

Germany's Lahm out for six months

BERLIN, May 18 (Reuters) - Germany defender Philipp Lahm is likely to be out for six months after tearing a cruciate ligament in his right knee in training on Tuesday.
Lahm, 21, currently with VfB Stuttgart, is set to join German champions Bayern Munich next season. He was to have played against Bayern in his final match for Stuttgart on Saturday.

'When we heard the news, we had to pull out all the stops,' said Bayern coach Felix Magath. 'I'm not counting on him before Christmas. I hope he'll be available for the second half of the season.'

Bayern already have a replacement in French left back Bixente Lizarazu, who signed a year's extension to his contract on Tuesday, although Magath said Bayern had already decided last week to keep him on until 2006.

Lahm was loaned by Bayern to Stuttgart two years ago and had established himself in the German national side, having made a strong impression at Euro 2004 in Portugal despite Germany's first-round exit.

He will miss the Confederations Cup which Germany is hosting from June 15-29.

The left back, who has played for just a month after fracturing a bone in his foot in January, will travel to a specialist in Vail, Colorado, on Thursday for an operation on Monday.

Lance Knight

05-18-2005, 03:14 PM

Wednesday, May 18, 2005

Deisler and Didi return for Germans

BERLIN, May 18 (Reuters) - Germany coach Juergen Klinsmann recalled Bayern Munich's Sebastian Deisler and Liverpool's Dietmar Hamann in a 23-man squad for the Confederations Cup next month.
Deisler last played for Germany in the 2-0 victory over Iran in October. However, in the same month he flew back from Italy ahead of Bayern Munich's match against Juventus and returned to the clinic where he had previously been treated for depression.

He has not been in the frame for the national team since and has generally been left out of Bayern's starting line-up.

Hamann's last international match was Germany's 2-1 defeat to the Czech Republic in Euro 2004 in June, which resulted in Germany's exit from the competition. He has not featured in any of Klinsmanns' squads.

However, the 31-year-old midfielder has been instrumental in Liverpool's passage to the final of the Champions League, notably with a battling performance in the 1-0 victory over Chelsea in the second leg of the semi-final.

Klinsmann also called up debutant Mike Hanke, 21, a striker from Schalke 04 for the competition which is being staged in Germany.

Germany play Australia, Tunisia and Argentina in the group stage of the competition running from June 15 to 29. Brazil, Greece, Mexico and Japan feature in the other group.

Germany will warm up for the Cup with matches against Bayern Munich on May 31, Northern Ireland on June 4 and Russia on June 8.

Nebeltier

05-18-2005, 03:28 PM

Don't get me wrong with the Hamann issue. I liked his game...a tall, elegant holding midfielder, but I felt that Euro 2004 was his swan song. At that event he hasn't closed down his opponents with his usual effectiveness and his lack of speed was heavily exploited (I remember that moment when Maris Verpakovskis broke loose from midfield with Hamann trailing in his tracks). Sebastian Kehl too is a player in the Hamann mold (lanky fellow, with a powerful drive), but, certainly, better suited to this fast-cutting game Germany is trying to develop. Having said all that I still think Frings has the upper-hand on them both (in that area of the field).

nachi88

05-18-2005, 04:53 PM

If I was to pick a team, I'd have left Lehmann out and would have taken Hans Jorg Butt or Rost as 3rd choice goalkeeper. Also I would have picked Benjamin Auer/Benjamin Lauth over Gerald Asmoah.

Nebeltier

05-18-2005, 05:30 PM

If I was to pick a team, I'd have left Lehmann out and would have taken Hans Jorg Butt or Rost as 3rd choice goalkeeper. Also I would have picked Benjamin Auer/Benjamin Lauth over Gerald Asmoah.

You're point right with your choices. The only problem is that Beni Lauth is injured and will be out of action for at least 3 or 4 months (from now on). Otherwise Klinsi would have picked him...or so I think.

nachi88

05-18-2005, 05:41 PM

In these picked, who would you like to see in our starting 11?

Nebeltier

05-19-2005, 04:47 AM

My pick would go for the following:
Kahn - Hinkel, Huth, Mertesacker, Hitzlsperger - Schweinsteiger, Ballack, Ernst, Deisler - Kuranyi, Poldi
...Miro Klose seems out of form, failing to deliver lately.

AstonVillafan3

05-26-2005, 10:31 PM

Ok I have a question personally I like Schwienstiger, Disler, and Ballack, I also like Leyman. Now anyway I don't know much German Football... Can anyone tell me about your defenders or who your choice of forwards are gonna be. I havn't seen any new forwards come out of Germany in awhile. I am hoping to see a great German Defence. You Midfield looks nice though except for Hitzelberger he is garbage.

Deutsch_Canuck

05-26-2005, 11:12 PM

We have a bright young talent in Lahm, very good fullback, has tons of pace, good skill...bring's a lot to an experienced youthful side. We have Huth, who isn't offensively gifted, but brings size, and presence to the table.

Pfeife

05-27-2005, 01:58 AM

Lance Knight

05-27-2005, 06:14 AM

people Lahm is injured, he has about a month to go again

Nebeltier

05-27-2005, 07:40 AM

people Lahm is injured, he has about a month to go again

It should have been great if he had been off just for one month. It's said they'll be seven...torn cruciate ligaments, the precise thing another Bayern fullback experienced (Andreas Goerlitz, who resumed training just about these days).

Lance Knight

05-27-2005, 08:03 AM

those injures hurt like shit, i wouldnt even wish that apon my enemies,lol i would just kick their ass,lol

Nebeltier

05-27-2005, 08:11 AM

-------------Kahn----------
Hinkel-Friedrich-WÃ¶rns-Lahm
-----------Frings-----------
---Deisler-------Schweinsteiger
-----------Ballack-----------
------Kuranyi---Podolski-----

Substitutes:

GK: Weidenfeller, Hildebrandt
Defense: Mertesacker, Huth, Ernst
Midfield: Kehl, Freier, Schneider, Borowski
Offense: Klose, Hanke, Asamoah

If I were to choose from a full squad I would go for the following:
.....................Kahn.......................
Hinkel...Metzelder...Mertesacker..Lahm
....................Ernst........................
.....Deisler..................Schweinsteiger
...................Ballack.......................
............Kuranyi.......Podolski............

Substitutes:
GK: Hildebrand, Weidenfeller
Deefense: Goerlitz, Huth, Friedrich, Hitzlsperger
Midfield: Frings, Kehl, Borowski, Schneider
Offense: Lauth, Klose, Hanke

...but with Philipp Lahm injured and Christoph Metzelder still searching top form, I guess you can make a few adjustments in the back four - Hitzlsperger for Lahm (he played for the NT as a left back a few times and acquited the job quite well) and Huth or Friedrich for Metzelder (who isn't in the squad for the Confeds)
...as a big picture your team seems pretty much the thing. I'm with it with few adjustments: Worns shouldn't be selected anymore (he'll be 33-34 at the WC) and instead of Frings, Ernst or Kehl should be nominated. Torsten Frings made the holding role his own, but not being first choice at Bayern would hamper his chances.
Also: Lauth for Asamoah as a second choice forward.

nachi88

05-27-2005, 05:00 PM

Pfeife

05-27-2005, 05:38 PM

If I were to choose from a full squad I would go for the following:
.....................Kahn.......................
Hinkel...Metzelder...Mertesacker..Lahm
....................Ernst........................
.....Deisler..................Schweinsteiger
...................Ballack.......................
............Kuranyi.......Podolski............

Substitutes:
GK: Hildebrand, Weidenfeller
Deefense: Goerlitz, Huth, Friedrich, Hitzlsperger
Midfield: Frings, Kehl, Borowski, Schneider
Offense: Lauth, Klose, Hanke

...but with Philipp Lahm injured and Christoph Metzelder still searching top form, I guess you can make a few adjustments in the back four - Hitzlsperger for Lahm (he played for the NT as a left back a few times and acquited the job quite well) and Huth or Friedrich for Metzelder (who isn't in the squad for the Confeds)
...as a big picture your team seems pretty much the thing. I'm with it with few adjustments: Worns shouldn't be selected anymore (he'll be 33-34 at the WC) and instead of Frings, Ernst or Kehl should be nominated. Torsten Frings made the holding role his own, but not being first choice at Bayern would hamper his chances.
Also: Lauth for Asamoah as a second choice forward.

IÂ´m not sure if Hitzelsperger should play in the German NT...I mean, heÂ´s an average player from an average club :S
WÃ¶rns should (and will, if heÂ´s not injured) play in 2006, he will be 34 years old but thatÂ´s an acceptable age for inner defense.
And why should Lauth play? He didnÂ´t make many games this season and the ones he made werenÂ´t that great...Asamoah is not that good at making many goals but heÂ´s a strong and very fast player...he can be used also for offensive midfield.

But I agree with you that Frings doesnÂ´t have to play necessarily in the starting team, Ernst or Kehl are also very good for that position...

besides, I donÂ´t think that Frings could play on the right wing instead of Deisler...heÂ´s not good at that position, better let it do Schneider or Freier.

nachi88

05-27-2005, 05:56 PM

IÂ´m not sure if Hitzelsperger should play in the German NT...I mean, heÂ´s an average player from an average club :S
WÃ¶rns should (and will, if heÂ´s not injured) play in 2006, he will be 34 years old but thatÂ´s an acceptable age for inner defense.
And why should Lauth play? He didnÂ´t make many games this season and the ones he made werenÂ´t that great...Asamoah is not that good at making many goals but heÂ´s a strong and very fast player...he can be used also for offensive midfield.

But I agree with you that Frings doesnÂ´t have to play necessarily in the starting team, Ernst or Kehl are also very good for that position...

besides, I donÂ´t think that Frings could play on the right wing instead of Deisler...heÂ´s not good at that position, better let it do Schneider or Freier.

I gree, most poeple I know who follow aston villa matches tell me that hitzlsperger is just an average player there, and doesnt even play regular football for the club. I also agree on Freier over Frings. didnt strike me.

Why do you say Asmoah is fast?? I think he is rather bulky and slow, and can be best used as offensive midfield, but not as a main striker.

Nebeltier

05-27-2005, 07:50 PM

I almost agree with you guys! Frings over Deisler doesn't seem to me like the ideal solution for the right midfield berth. Torsten hasn't got the speed of an out-and-out winger...he's better suited in the holding role, where he can dictate the pace of the medial line and recover balls other can use better. Schneider or even Freier seem the sensible solutions in that area of the game, I have to agree. But when I nominated Deisler I was looking a year from now (not necessary at this given moment)...I just hope he can turn his faith around for the next season. You have to agree that between Schneider, Freier and him, he's the more complete player. He completed the last 5 or 6 matches for Bayern and with some aplomb. I don't give up on him, not yet...he'll deliver the goods come the WC! (you'll see!)
...In what regards Asamoah, I think he played too many matches for the NT...at least more than he would have deserved (he scored a mere 3 goals out of 26 showings). As a marksman he was never suspected!...but I don't like his game either (he doesn't bring much, except for comitment). Lauth, on the other side played 6-7 matches this season and scored 5 times and pretty important goals (decisive ones) I would say...his sole disadvantage is his injury proness, otherwise being a very pacey striker with good skill and shot.
Hitzlsperger...well I saw him 3 or 4 times this season and I wasn't that impressed with his general game, but he has quite a thunderous shot (he isn't cold the "Hammer" for nothing). But then again, who do you see on the left side of the defense now that Lahm is injured? Tobias Rau hasn't played a game in ages and the two Christians (Pander from Schalke and Schulz from Werder) didn't impress in the NT colours.
We have debated long enough! Let's wait and see Klinsi's choices. He calls the shots as far as the NT is concerned...that's a done thing. I hope he'll be inspired...with or without Deisler I want Germany to win (the Confeds and then the WC), and with style too.

nachi88

05-30-2005, 07:24 PM

There is a bayern vs Germany XI match for the opening of the new allainz arena in munich. No one seems to be taking this seriously, with a squad of 26 probables to be tried out. I hope Klinsmann takes this match as good opportunity to test tactics and not make it a 11 substsitution game like sven eriksson.

Lance Knight

05-30-2005, 10:59 PM

Monday, May 30, 2005

Bayern to take on German national side

MUNICH, May 30 (Reuters) - Bayern Munich begin a new era with a leisurely run out against the German national team in their first match at the 280 million euro ($352 million) Allianz Arena on Tuesday.
Oliver Kahn, Michael Ballack, Torsten Frings, Bastian Schweinsteiger and Sebastian Deisler -- all members of Juergen Klinsmann's squad for the Confederations Cup -- will line up against their international team mates in Bayern's first home match since signing off from the Olympic Stadium.

The fans will come to celebrate the club's fifth domestic double, clinched on Saturday with a 2-1 victory over Schalke 04 in the Cup final in Berlin, and get their first look at the stadium that will host the opening match at the 2006 World Cup.

The match itself is unlikely to be a full-blooded contest, although Klinsmann will be keen to see how Champions League winner Dietmar Hamann of Liverpool performs on his return to the national team after a year out.

'I won't get definitive answers from this game but there will be things to add to the overall impression,' the coach said in the build-up to the game.

'This match is also a way of honouring Bayern for their cooperation with the German Football Association over so many years.'

For World Cup organisers, the match will be a first real test of logistics at the new stadium.

The venue has already staged one practice match, when 30,000 fans turned up to watch a game between veterans of Bayern and TSV 1860 Munich, the two clubs who will share the stadium.

Two matches this week will provide a much stiffer test in terms of getting access, ticketing and security right.

On Monday night, the venue will stage a festival of fireworks and music before 1860 Munich face Nuremberg in a match that kicks off at 1815 GMT.

Bayern's first match at the new stadium on Tuesday at 1915 GMT should be the first 66,000 sell-out.

Germany continue their preparations for the Confederations Cup with friendly internationals against Northern Ireland in Belfast on June 4 and Russia in Moenchengladbach on June 8.

The Confederations Cup runs from June 15 to 29. Germany are in Group A along with Australia, Argentina and Tunisia. Group B is made up of Brazil, Greece, Japan and Mexico. The matches will be played in Hanover, Leipzig, Cologne, Frankfurt and Nuremberg.

nachi88

06-01-2005, 04:42 AM

a match which no one took seriously. The allianz arena looks amgnificent anyways. I hope we are much more serious for the Northern Ireland game.

MUNICH, May 31 (Reuters) - Bayern Munich set their new World Cup stadium aglow inside and out with a blazing 4-2 victory over a Germany XI on Tuesday.

Bayern Munich's Allianz Arena on opening night (JanPitman/GettyImages)
Sebastian Deisler, one of five Bayern players representing club rather than country, opened the scoring in the fifth minute and a Robert Huth own goal made it 2-0 just before the break.

A Tim Borowski penalty brought Juergen Klinsmann's side back into the game at the start of the second half but Willy Sagnol and Hasan Salihamidzic scored either side of a Miroslav Klose blast to clinch a Bayern win.

The result sealed an ideal housewarming for the breathtaking new Allianz Arena, the 280 million euro ($345.1 million) venue that will stage the opening ceremony and the inaugural match at the 2006 World Cup.

'That was a nice present for the fans,' Klinsmann told a news conference. 'The result didn't matter at all. We were just trying to get some rhythm after the players had come back from holiday.'

The stadium was designed by Swiss architects Jacques Herzog and Pierre de Meuron and built in 2-1/2 years.

By day, the greyish-white oval Arena could be described as looking like a rubber dinghy afloat on a motorway junction.

FOOTBALL BEACON

By night, it is something else entirely, with the outer skin glowing red if Bayern Munich are playing or blue when city rivals TSV 1860 are the home side.

The chameleon-like ground will be literally a beacon for fans.

The match was an opportunity for Bayern to celebrate their league and cup double, while giving the fans a first taste of what life will be like following the move from the Olympic Stadium.

The presence of Bastian Schweinsteiger, Deisler, Torsten Frings, Oliver Kahn and Michael Ballack in the red shirts of Bayern rather than the white of the national side tipped the balance.

Klinsmann must have been worried at the way his weakened side failed to keep the ball in the first half after Schweinsteiger had beaten the offside trap and teed up Deisler to slide in the opening goal.

Bayern controlled the game throughout the first half but could only manage one more goal, when Huth deflected in Schweinsteiger's cross-shot.

Martin Demichelis gave away a marginal penalty with a foul on Klose and the Germany side enjoyed a few minutes of possession before Bayern regained their appetite.

After a handful of near-misses, Sagnol struck from the edge of the box and the ball went in off the post to make it 3-1 in the 74th minute.

Ballack hit the post as Bayern pressed before Klose got the second for Germany, driving the ball past substitute keeper Michael Rensing in the 86th minute.

A minute later, Salihamidzic turned in Deisler's excellent cross from the right to keep the fans cheering before the start of the post-match firework display.

Nebeltier

06-01-2005, 08:55 AM

Nebeltier

06-01-2005, 09:19 AM

As for the Belfast fixture don't worry a bit...they haven't won a match in years. I predict a 4-0 for that one. The Monchengladbach game with the russians will be, though, tougher. I see a 3-1 for that one. What do you expect from these matches in terms of score figures?
I saw last night some new boys in the NT colours. I read about them, but actually I didn't see them till then. Poldi didn't seem as full of intent as he ussualy is...I expected more from the kid. Rensing, tough, impressed me.
As for the central axe of defense do you think Klinsi will favour a Huth-Friedrich combination? Arne has been in pretty good form in the second part of the season. He seemed to have lost the plot under Klinsi, but now he's back (actualy I think he together with Schweini, Ballack and Lahm were the top performers for Germany at Euro 2004). I expect Metze to step out too from this quiet retreat and put good performences in order to be reselected for the NT. He certainly is needed as far sa I can see...Huth doesn't seem to me the player to build a defense around.

Lance Knight

06-01-2005, 01:37 PM

I agree Huth isnt the best player to build a defense around right now, he is still young and has alot to learn, if he comes to Bayern(and i hope so) he should sit on the bench like he does at chelsea, and mourinho knows that he has alot to learn too,

nachi88

06-01-2005, 03:14 PM

ZDF broadcasted some magnificent night views of the stadium...frightening beauty!
Nachi, I must say I saw your Zentral stadion in Leipzig...it looks pretty good also. You'll be a great venue in the Confeds. Will you host wc matches too?

zentralstadion is just finished on the reconstruction. It will be hosting brasil vs greece in confeds, for which i have the tickets :) . It will also be hosting a couple of matches for the world cup. I too predict a big win against n ireland. 3-0. against russia, i think it will be 2-0/2-1 for us.

arminius

06-05-2005, 03:19 AM

4-1 win against northern ireland, despite playing most of the match with 10 men after huth got sent off....ballack 2 goals, podolski and asamoah 1 each....bring on the russkies.

Nebeltier

06-05-2005, 08:36 AM

I didn't see the match, but it seems like a great victory being one man down. Situations like this can occur (getting to play with 10 men for about the entire match) and it shows Germany has strong characters in its players. This is a slap on the face for those who questioned Ballack's leadership qualities, too. He must have been inspirational for the team, with two goals and one assist. Deisler and Schweini played the entire second half, with Poldi the last 30 minutes.

Lance Knight

06-05-2005, 08:45 AM

god i new huth would be trouble

arminius

06-08-2005, 11:47 AM

Hercegovac

06-08-2005, 12:24 PM

2-0 for Germany

Pfeife

06-08-2005, 11:53 PM

2-2.

A too young defense sucks.

nachi88

06-09-2005, 02:26 AM

placed a bet on germany to beat russia tonite, $100 for the win will get me $168 back, will spend $50 of that on a keg of lowenbrau bier, the remaining $18 of winnings goes towards buying cat food....so make sure you win tonite klinsmann or the cat goes hungry tomorrow.

bad luck arminius, your cat will have to go hungry for some time. We played good though. Our defense is inexperienced and so, we need all the match practice before the big one. Schweinsteiger is turning out to be a real gem.

arminius

06-09-2005, 06:52 AM

bad luck arminius, your cat will have to go hungry for some time. We played good though. Our defense is inexperienced and so, we need all the match practice before the big one. Schweinsteiger is turning out to be a real gem.
the cat is obese anyway so in a way it's for his own good that we drew, despite not winning this match i'm very optimistic about our chances in the confeds cup.

Pfeife

06-09-2005, 08:49 AM

Will Wörns play in the Confed-Cup?

Because otherwise the chances are much worse, I don´t say the defense players are bad but they are all just too young and not used to play together...no Wörns, no Nowotny (I think he will never play again :(), no Lahm, no Metzelder... :depressed

Hitzelsperger is not used to play in this position, I think they should drop him...he´s not the best one anyways.

nachi88

08-15-2005, 09:36 AM

We'r playing Dutchie's on the 17th, in Rotterdam.

Nothing pleases me more than beating them, that too in their home :D

Here is the squad

Goal Keepers
Hildebrand, Kahn

Defence
Friedrich, Hinkel, Hitzlsperger ( :boo: , no use of him), Huth, Mertesacker, Wörns ( old goat, he will go when Metzelder is back)

Mid field
Ballack, Borowski, Deisler, Ernst, Frings, Hamann, Schneider

Forwards
Asamoah, Klose , Kuranyi

I think Klinsmann should have picked up Podolski also. how could he be dropped? Hanke should go instead of Klose.

Pfeife

08-15-2005, 10:43 AM

Schweinsteiger and Podolski get a break vs Holland.

I am looking forward to that game, allthough I have a bad feeling because of the missing key players...

And I don´t understand why you dislike Klose so much. He is getting his old form back, in his last 3 games for Bremen, he scored 4 goals!

nachi88

08-18-2005, 08:03 AM

2-2 it ended. Satisfactory score I would say.

Did any one else also notice the booing by the dutchfans during our national anthem. Sometimes they take it far too personally...

coming back to the game, the dutch outclassed us in the first half. Not a good return to the NT for hamann. we missed the creative spark of schweinsteiger. Klose, as usual, didnt do much. I wish we had hanke for this game, but since he played the day before in u-21's 3-1 win over poland he could not be picked.
In second half we showed some life, and got a deserved 2-2 draw. There are some players we must phase out before the world cup- nowotny and Wörns. Huth and Metzelder can fill in the place of the two. I was also dissapointed by Friedrich yesterday... to may loose balls, no overlapping runs. A different friedrich than the one of the confederations.
The only players who I could say played well- Ballack , Deisler (though he came as a sub) and Borowski. Good comeback and fight back, to end the match.

What did you people think about the game?

Ivan7637

08-18-2005, 08:47 AM

nachi88

08-18-2005, 08:57 AM

I didn't get to see it because they didn't show it but i heard Asamoah scored :shocked:

Obviously the german defense isn't too bad since you only coneded 2 goals vs holland.

Did Makaay get to play? and how impressive was ballack? He hasn't been impressing me lately. :worried: Deisler played well which isn't a suprise ummm how did Kuranyi do?

Ballack has been in good form as of late. he was top scorer in the confederations cup, and also has had two good games for bayern so far.

Makaay played the second half, and did look dangerous. Deisler also came on as a second half substitute for Ernst.

As for the forwrads... I'll rate them as follows
Podolski>Kuranyi>Hanke>Asamoah>Klose

Asamoah has been improving.
Lauth will be playing back from injury this season. If he gets his form back, we will have more choice for forwards for the WC.

Ivan7637

08-18-2005, 06:52 PM

Ballack has been in good form as of late. he was top scorer in the confederations cup, and also has had two good games for bayern so far.

I know but i still feel he needs to improve a lot more.

Makaay played the second half, and did look dangerous. Deisler also came on as a second half substitute for Ernst.

Suprisingly makaay didn't score. I'm not suprised van Nistlerooy didn't.

As for the forwrads... I'll rate them as follows
Podolski>Kuranyi>Hanke>Asamoah>Klose

I have always liked Kuranyi and consider him a pretty good forward but he also needs to improve.

Asamoah has been improving.
Lauth will be playing back from injury this season. If he gets his form back, we will have more choice for forwards for the WC.

Asamoah is doing decent but he still isn't very good. He seems chubby and slow.

nachi88

09-01-2005, 03:43 PM

Here is the selected squad against slowakia (sep 3, bratislava) and south africa ( sep 7, bremen)

Goal Keepers- Timo Hildebrand, Jens Lehmann
Defenders- Friedrich, Hinkel, Jansen, Mertesacker, Owomoyela, Sinkiewicz,Wörns
Midfielders- Ballack, Borowski, Deisler, Ernst, Hitzlsperger,Schneider, Schweinsteiger
Forwards- Asamoah, Kuranyi, Klose , Podolski

Looks like Kahn is rested for these games. Klinsmann can get a good chance to see the others perform. Jansen and Sinkiewicz should also be played, it will get us more choice for a main back line before the world cups.

I expect a win in both games. But in Bratislava it will be close.

what are your predictions? views?

nachi88

09-03-2005, 08:20 AM

The u-21 has qualified for the eurochampionships. we won 2-0 with azerbaijan. Hanke scored the second, and was fouled to get penalty for the first.

He is going to be our future star player.

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/Under21/FixturesResults/Round=1910/match=74387/Report=RP.html

nachi88

09-05-2005, 08:18 AM

Poor Performance by the national team.

This was the starting XI

---------------Lehmann------------------------
-owomoyela-mertesacker- wörns-hitzlsperger----
-deisler--ernst---ballack------schneider--------
------klose-----asamoah----------------------

bad starting line up. I would take both Hinkel and Friedrich over Owomoyela. hitzlsperger??? why is he even there? Where was Lahm? Atleast jansen should have been started. Ernst also, I have lost faith in.

The performance was not our best, for a team that is a world cup aspirant. We played well in the confederations. thats the type of game we should maintain.
Hopefully the game against South Africa will be able to get us back the confidence.

soccerates

09-05-2005, 08:45 PM

Pfeife

09-06-2005, 05:25 PM

This is not a troll,but I'm genuinly curious as to what happened yesterday vs Slovakia. The last time I watched the Slovaks play was their WC qualifier vs Portugal in early June and the Portuguese easily handled them, making me think they weren't really a quality side. Nachi88, Pfeife, or any other German fans, what fell apart in this game and what needs to be fixed, or can it?

I would like to know that too, because I didn´t see the game (had to work, and unfortunately I won´t be able to see tomorrow's game either).

What I heard from the game, Germany's defense sucked pretty much (not used to play together, but that's no secret), and the whole team seemed uninspired and tired (dunno from what though).

Also, a clear goal by Ballack was denied, but that shall be no excuse because Germany should have won anyways.

What surprised me especially is that Ballack openly said that he missed Kahn and Frings in the team, that's an indirect critic about Klinsmann's goalkeeper rotation.

I hope that the team wakes up and stops playing the way they have been playing the past 2 games, otherwise they won't be able to reach their goal in 2006.

nachi88

09-08-2005, 12:14 PM

Nebeltier

09-21-2005, 12:00 PM

Here is a game review
http://www.kicker.de/content/spielplan/spielbericht.asp?folder=404000&object=716282&liga=1830&saison=2005%2F06&spieltag=3&spielpaarung=716282&bvc_atab=4

I havent watched this one.

The back line- owomoyela-sinkiewicz-mertesacker-jansen is the youngest we had since 1954. Podolski scored a hattrick. Seems he is just cementing his place for the wc06 finals.

I didn't see the match, but it seems it was a pretty good one. I actually saw the goals...glorious finishes for Poldi- the first period ladder and the last of the three. In the second half he was the one to open the floodgates and seems to have convinced Klinsi to select him for the coming games. In my opinion he's pure gold...clearly the first choice striker. Next in the pecking order are: Miro Klose, Benni Lauth, Mike Hanke and Kevin Kuranyi.
What do you think about Tim Borowski's showing on the day? I read in Kicker he was inch perfect...strong in the tackles, fast moving...realy a solid all-around performance. Can he be an option for the problematic holding role? Frings doesn't seem to be the one he once was (from the Dortmund time), Ernst fails to deliver when asked to, Kehl for certain reasons seem to be overlooked...can Tim be the solution? Some say he plays the same game as Ballack - an attacking midfielder - but I, for some reasons, think he can be used in the holding role.
Marcell Jansen had good performances in the last games...he made his breakthrough. If Lahm's injury vows continue, he is the man for the left fullback berth. Lukas Sinkiewicz was strong too...so I've heard!

my next eleven (for the Turkey match) would be:
Kahn - Friedrich, Mertesacker, Metzelder (it will probably be Sinkiewicz), Jansen - Deisler, Borowski, Ballack, Schweini - Poldi, Klose
substitutes: Hildebrand, Hinkel, Frings, Ernst, Kuranyi.

Pfeife

09-22-2005, 11:13 AM

nachi88

09-24-2005, 08:51 AM

Borowksi is a top player in the bundesliga at the moment, and the good thing is that he can also play in the right offensive midfield (not as a classical winger though). Frings showed also highly satisfying games lately and should also start for Germany.

My 11:

Kahn
Friedrich Wörns Mertesacker Jansen
Borowski Frings Ballack Schweinsteiger
Poldi Klose

My 11...

i'll put a 4-5-1 combination
Kahn
Friedrich Metzelder Mertesacker Jansen
-------------Hamann----------------
Borowski Deisler Ballack Schweinsteiger
-----------Poldi--------------------

Pfeife

09-25-2005, 02:44 PM

My 11...

i'll put a 4-5-1 combination
Kahn
Friedrich Metzelder Mertesacker Jansen
-------------Hamann----------------
Borowski Deisler Ballack Schweinsteiger
-----------Poldi--------------------

why do you want to leave Klose out? He is the top scorer of the Bundesliga at the moment (7 goals in 7 games), he has to play.

Metzelder is still searching for his old form (allthough his last 2 games were alot better, he even scored yesterday :)), untill he is that good again, I prefer Wörns.
And Deisler hasn't made one single impressing game for Bayern this season, he shouldn't be rewarded for that, especially because we have Borowski for this position.

nachi88

09-25-2005, 05:32 PM

why do you want to leave Klose out? He is the top scorer of the Bundesliga at the moment (7 goals in 7 games), he has to play.

Metzelder is still searching for his old form (allthough his last 2 games were alot better, he even scored yesterday :)), untill he is that good again, I prefer Wörns.
And Deisler hasn't made one single impressing game for Bayern this season, he shouldn't be rewarded for that, especially because we have Borowski for this position.

The main reason, i leave out Klose, is I feel the backline very vulnerable without Hamann.If we have to play with lone striker for that case, so be it. I feel he is totally necessary to hold the defense in place. I cannot ever imagine Frings doing a Hamann role. Maybe Engelhardt, but Frings as a suitable defensive mid?

Pfeife

09-26-2005, 11:54 AM

The main reason, i leave out Klose, is I feel the backline very vulnerable without Hamann.If we have to play with lone striker for that case, so be it. I feel he is totally necessary to hold the defense in place. I cannot ever imagine Frings doing a Hamann role. Maybe Engelhardt, but Frings as a suitable defensive mid?

Since Frings is playing for Werder again, he is the best defensive midfielder of the Bundesliga by far. He already explained in interviews that he didn't feel very well in Munich, and that he's glad to be back in Bremen.

Besides, I would also prefer Kehl from Dortmund over Hamann. Hamann is still a good man for the defensive midfield, but not first choice anymore.

Nebeltier

09-27-2005, 04:10 PM

Metzelder is back! At last!

Das Aufgebot der deutschen Nationalmannschaft (for the games versus Turkey and China):

Tor:
Oliver Kahn (Bayern München), Timo Hildebrand (VfB Stuttgart)

Abwehr:
Arne Friedrich (Hertha BSC), Robert Huth (FC Chelsea), Marcell Jansen (Borussia Mönchengladbach), Per Mertesacker (Hannover 96), Patrick Owomoyela (Werder Bremen), Lukas Sinkiewicz (1. FC Köln), Christoph Metzelder (Borussia Dortmund)

Mittelfeld:
Michael Ballack, Sebastian Deisler, Bastian Schweinsteiger (alle FC Bayern München), Tim Borowski, Torsten Frings (beide Werder Bremen), Fabian Ernst (Schalke 04), Thomas Hitzlsperger (VfB Stuttgart), Bernd Schneider (Bayer 04 Leverkusen)

Angriff:
Kevin Kuranyi (Schalke 04), Miroslav Klose (Werder Bremen), Lukas Podolski (1. FC Köln), Oliver Neuville (Borussia Mönchengladbach)

Teilnahme an den Fitnesstest am 3./4. Oktober in Hamburg:
Jens Lehmann (FC Arsenal), Mike Hanke (VfL Wolfsburg), Andreas Hinkel (VfB Stuttgart), Sebastian Kehl, Christian Wörns (beide Borussia Dortmund).
Die derzeit verletzten Gerald Asamoah (FC Schalke) und Philipp Lahm (FC Bayern) wurden zu einem Kurzbesuch bei der Nationalelf eingeladen.

nachi88

10-09-2005, 06:04 PM

wolverine

10-12-2005, 12:42 AM

Not a very encouraging performance by DFB elf yesterday. Ballack was surely missed, Deisler, i feel is a must in this team. He must be taken, ahead of Schweinsteiger or Frings. Kuranyi was looking lost yesterday. If he continues a performance like this, then Klose and Podolski both are much better.
Klinsmann, who could get a lot out of the team in the confederations, seems to have lost the ability ot motivate them. Only world cup will surely be a motivating factor enough.
Inspite of all this, I still feel, we are very well capable of winning the wc, provided our players play to their limits.

The side isnt changed much for the China game. Lets see how the performance is in this one.
Don't u think that Asamoah (i dunno how to spell it) is better than Klose and Kuranyi ?? Though am no the greatest fan of Germany, this is how I feel :frusty: when I see Klose or Kuranyi playing were once ppl like Voeller and Klinsmann used to play.

By the way did u read what Kahn said ?? He was kinda furious and said that its y time the team stop saying the xcuse that we lost due to the absence of Ballack. But u r still saying that :D

nachi88

10-12-2005, 08:15 AM

Don't u think that Asamoah (i dunno how to spell it) is better than Klose and Kuranyi ?? Though am no the greatest fan of Germany, this is how I feel :frusty: when I see Klose or Kuranyi playing were once ppl like Voeller and Klinsmann used to play.

By the way did u read what Kahn said ?? He was kinda furious and said that its y time the team stop saying the xcuse that we lost due to the absence of Ballack. But u r still saying that :D

Asamoah isnt better than Klose. Anybody/anything is better than how Kuranyi played against Turkey. Podolski is better than them all. Hanke too, is improving quite steadily. But otherwise, its Kuranyi and Ailton who play first choice for Schalke 04, Asamoah being the substitute. Asamoah is the sturdy type, who can be used as a support striket if Germany is winning 1-0, 2-0 in a game and wants to shift to a slightly defensive gear. He makes good use of his body strength.

I agree with you on the other point though- We lost because we didnt play good enough. lets see how things turn out against China today.

Nebeltier

10-13-2005, 12:28 PM

Not the right result...I expected a good crop of goals - 4 or 5 at least...one goal, and that from a penalty, is not enough.
We are going from bad to worse...and I don't know why. It's like the motivation isn't there anymore...this aspect leaves much to be wanted, I think. These are young guys, the majority of them...they should play out of their socks.
A positive note - the comeback of Metzelder...with Lahm back, in a short time (he expects to feature in the return leg of the Bayern-Juve tie), we'll have an improved defence.
Let's hope we'll perform in the Paris game...we must make ourselves justice and play to our full potential.
With Ballack back, I expect far better performances in the wc year.

...in normal circumstances the first "11" should be: Kahn - Friedrich, Metzelder, Mertesacker, Lahm - Deisler, Ballack, Frings (Kehl), Schweini - Poldi, Klose (Lauth)...by the way, Owomoyela sucks (he's a bad shower)...he should be left out of it...

nachi88

10-13-2005, 01:15 PM

A forgetable performance against China.

Next we play away to France at Paris on Nov 12.

Nebeltier

11-12-2005, 10:55 PM

A good result on Stade de France...but, more encouraging, a very good team performance...much credit to Kinsmann for motivating his men for the final friendly of the season...as if the prospect of playing a top rival wasn't motivating eenough
...too bad we didn't win, as we remain without a win against a top nation for 5 years now...
We really battled hard, and should have won by my account...
...Ballack roamed the midfield as usual...he showed a lot of spirit and great determination to play through the game, as he was fouled on numerous ocasions
...Deisler played a great first half and really made inroads on the right hand side...such a pitty he came off from a brutal Gallas foul (the French really showed us why they are better at rugby than at football...grosse tackles)
...Schweini entered the fray after the interval and came really nice into the game - good combinations with Ballack
...Poldi had a great linkschuss in the beggining (should that had come off, it would have been a tremendous goal)...he and Klose battled well and were good value for their selection
...finally, I must say I was impressed with the central backs - Per played really well...he contained well with the potent French strikers...and Huth was a revelation - he didn't make one single mistake, as he was always prone to them for not playing regular football (with Metze, who would have started, if he hadn't fallen before the game, we have 3 very capable CBacks)
...die Aussen (Friedrich and Jansen) played solid football as well...
Next up, Italy...the 1st of march...
Tschuss

emode

03-26-2007, 01:57 AM

Discuss news & anything about the team in here:

Some info:
The current coaching staff of the national team include head coach Joachim Löw, assistant coach Hans-Dieter Flick,goalkeeper coach Andreas Köpke, athletic coach Mark Verstegen, athletic coach Oliver Schmidtlein and team manager Oliver Bierhoff

emode

03-26-2007, 02:06 AM

What a great game for bayern against Rep.Czech on the Euro 2008 qualifiier. I know they going to win but everything about that match was perfect. Some great shot by poldi altho they were saved by Petr Cech. Two awesome goas by Kuranyi putting Germany at the top of group D 3 points ahead of the Czechs after five matches. Even German coach Joachim Loew said “I am very satisfied. It was a very high quality match.” Go Germany!!! :thumb:

Xizor

03-26-2007, 02:39 AM

Wow, finally a Germany NT thread!

emode

03-26-2007, 03:13 AM

Wow, finally a Germany NT thread!
yeah isn't it strange the whole german football section yet not a single thread discussing its national team lol!!

cris_cris15

05-06-2007, 05:02 PM

My favorite German Player is Michael Ballack, my firends and i made a new informational site about Ballack, here you can read very interesting information about Ballack:

http://www.best-ranks.com/Michael_Ballack.htm

please tell me your opinion about my site ;)

emode

06-06-2007, 05:15 AM

^its a nice site :)

The Football Association & the German federation (DFB) have already announced & confirmed England will play a friendly against Germany at Wembley on August 22. This will be the first meeting between the teams since the 5-1 win for England in Munich in September 2001.

Xizor

06-16-2007, 06:09 AM

Germany vs. England I believe this month, who will win?

emode

06-18-2007, 04:37 AM

Germany will win off course. The game will be in August!!

Xizor

06-18-2007, 04:46 AM

Nice, keep me updated emode! :)

emode

07-03-2007, 05:59 AM

^lol for sure xizor
there's a thread dedicted on discussing this game in the world football section: http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=55013

Hopefully Germany will win :)

emode

08-14-2007, 04:13 AM

BALLACK TO MISS ENGLAND CLASH

Germany captain Michael Ballack has admitted he does not expect to recover from injury in time to face England at Wembley on August 22.

The 30-year-old midfielder has been struggling to overcome an ankle problem, which has also ruled him out of Chelsea's start to the new Premier League season.

And despite the game still being a week and a half away, he does not expect to feature.

I still expect Germany will win even without Ballack in action!!

emode

09-12-2007, 06:16 AM

The "Mannschaft" Schedule

Next home game
Germany - Romania on September 12, 2007, 8.30 pm in Köln

Next away game
Ireland - Germany on October 13, 2007, 8.45 pm, in Dublin

Cabra Hoops

09-15-2007, 03:44 PM

Any german fans travelling to dublin for the euro 2008 qualifier might be interested in a bit of ground hopping, Shamrock Rovers (2nd) play Drogheda United (1st) in the League of Ireland premier division at Tolka Park Dublin on friday the 12th of October, this game will more than likely decide this seasons championship, All fans travelling are welcome to attend this game to get your weekend off to a good start. for more information go to www.srfcultrasforum.com

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1033/1386310357_72f9e25560_o.jpg

emode

09-21-2007, 06:55 AM

^hey thnks for the info :thumb:

Final Result International Friendly

Germany 3 1 Romania

emode

11-03-2007, 03:00 AM

GERMANY HOSTS WOMEN'S WORLD CUP 2011

Germany have been awarded the 2011 women's World Cup by FIFA. The decision by FIFA's 24-man executive committee means the tournament will be hosted by the current women's world champions and came as a huge disappointment to the other candidate, Canada.

Vic

11-03-2007, 09:46 AM

Congrats Germany! :)

emode

12-21-2007, 02:23 AM

GERMANY LINE UP FRIENDLIES
21/12/07
Germany will face Belarus and Serbia as part of their build-up to Euro 2008, the German Football Association (DFB) confirmed on Wednesday.

Joachim Low's side will fly to Kaiserslautern from their training camp in Majorca for the clash with Belarus on May 27 before returning to the Balearic Island immediately after the game.

They will then travel to Gelsenkirchen to face Serbia on Saturday, May 31 - their final fixture before their opening Euro 2008 group fixture against Poland on June 8 in Klagenfurt.

"We have selected these opponents for a reason," revealed Low.

"According to our information, Belarus and Serbia closely match the mentality and playing style of our group opponents Poland and Croatia."

Low admitted it had proved difficult to arrange a friendly in Majorca, hence the day-trip to the Fritz-Walter Stadium for the Belarus fixture.

He said: "We are happy to break off our training camp and use this opportunity to present ourselves in front of our fantastic supporters in Germany."

Germany have also confirmed their base for Euro 2008 will be in Ascona, Switzerland.

DelijaZauvjek

12-21-2007, 05:05 AM

oooh and good luck against us with that friendly.. Don't think that we will go easy on you guys heh ;)........ Serbia is going all out on you guys with a whole new team and mentality =D...

emode

01-03-2008, 06:00 AM

oooh and good luck against us with that friendly.. Don't think that we will go easy on you guys heh ;)........ Serbia is going all out on you guys with a whole new team and mentality =D...

Easier said than done...Germany is in their top form now. It's kinda hard to beat them at the moment. Wales came close by drawing with them in the final EURO qualifying match. But other than that...Germany have won most of their last matches.

DelijaZauvjek

01-10-2008, 12:22 AM

Germany is not going to play hard at all...
Serbia will

The reason Germany is playing a friendly against Serbia is because they heard we are the closest footballing mentality and gameplay to Croatia...
Germany is not going to risk any injuries..
For Serbia it will be a chance for the younger or underrated players to prove themselves...
All in all, it should be fun and full of excitement..I expect at least 1 goal from Podolski..
He does so well for the National Team...Lots of heart from the kidster..

BavarianRed

01-29-2008, 05:11 PM

When iz their next friendly??

newcastlefan000

01-29-2008, 06:18 PM

except that loss to the Czechs... the last time Germany lost was against Italy in World Cup 2006

emode

01-30-2008, 06:00 AM

When iz their next friendly??
Their next international friendly will be an away game:

Austria - Germany on February 6, 2008 in Vienna

emode

02-16-2008, 12:01 AM

The Result

Germany 3 Austria 0

German NT is unstoppable and it looks like their preparation for the Euro 2008 are going great :thumb: Can't wait to see them in Euro 08.

Their next international friendly:
Switzerland - Germany on March 26, 2008, 08.45 pm, in Basel

BavarianRed

02-16-2008, 12:19 AM

oh yea podolski cross to mario gomez what a beautyy of a gooal!!!!! i always have respect for the austrians long live the german bros... :evil:

BavarianRed

02-16-2008, 12:21 AM

podolski is the heart of germany i just love how he plays.. the future star in the making..

emode

02-16-2008, 12:22 AM

oh yea podolski cross to mario gomez what a beautyy of a gooal!!!!! i always have respect for the austrians long live the german bros... :evil:

Yeah I agree Podolski was just awesome! He seems to do so well with the German NT but he's always struggling in bayern dunno why. Go Germany :heart: . I'm not even German lol but i have a lot of respect for their team !!!

BavarianRed

02-16-2008, 12:26 AM

yeah i kno podolski is struggling but thats ok... klose n luca toni are filling in on the job... but man i cant wait till England comes to Germany in November for a friendly, and this time germany is gonna play dere "A" n dominate dem.. GO deutschlllllllllllllllllllllanddddddddd!!!! :)

emode

02-16-2008, 02:34 AM

They won the last time they meet in Wembley when only the B squad were playing so i'm not suprise if they win again with the A squad this time. But that game is still far away the next upcoming match will be against Switzerland. Will hope to see more of podolski in that match!!

emode

03-24-2008, 01:23 AM

Okay don't forget everyone or Germany supporters!

Next international friendly:
Switzerland - Germany
on March 26, 2008, 08.45 pm, in Basel

Who do you think going to win???
Germany of course or i hope so :)

BavarianRed

03-24-2008, 01:26 AM

D E U T S C H L A N D Will Win :)

grünweißschwarz

03-24-2008, 10:44 AM

BavarianRed

03-26-2008, 09:42 PM

Maybe ^^
Unfortunately Löw nominated players like Podolski. In the moment here are many experts that don't understand how Löw can bring a player who is a reservist in his club. We'll see if he is able to play well in the national team..

oh yea maybe for "sure" Switzerland [0 - 4] Germany.... thats rite :)
please dont talk anymore non sence thank you........ :lol:
you really thought the swiss will beat germany hahah... in your dreamss

emode

03-27-2008, 02:17 AM

^Yeah :)

Final Result
Switzerland 0 Germany 4

Mario gomez was amazing!! He scored 2 goals and assisted one for Klose. Podolski scored a goal too haha. He always played better in German NT than in Bayern!!
Here's a pic of Podolski celebrating his goal :thumb:

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2748/14mj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ulster21

03-27-2008, 12:27 PM

Germany looked very impressive....I think they are the favorites to win this summer, along with Italy. WIth Klose, Podolski and the emergence of Gomez their front line looks extremely good

SiN

03-27-2008, 02:06 PM

What can you find to criticise about germany? Nothing really. They have a very very strong attacking capability.

BavarianRed

03-27-2008, 05:10 PM

@ emode..... nice pic of podolski and Ballack!!!! podolski played freakin amazing scored a goal, and making those nice passes :)
well done by the youngster.......

Flori64

03-27-2008, 06:22 PM

beyond gomez, i was very happy about Fritz, who replaced Schneider.
Especially the young geys, Lahm, Gomez, Fritz, Jansen, Podolski decided the
game, so the future of the team is shining in gold.

BavarianRed

03-27-2008, 06:30 PM

beyond gomez, i was very happy about Fritz, who replaced Schneider.
Especially the young geys, Lahm, Gomez, Fritz, Jansen, Podolski decided the
game, so the future of the team is shining in gold.

Yup, your definitely right i cant agree more with you, all these youngsters germany played against switzerland, they all played very well with passing and not being selfish, Podolski had an amazing game with scoring the last goal which was a beauty with the passes that lead to his goal, well done germany.... :)

heres some highlights for the german fans.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0KL-W9XlRo

emode

03-28-2008, 05:12 AM

Germany looked very impressive....I think they are the favorites to win this summer, along with Italy. WIth Klose, Podolski and the emergence of Gomez their front line looks extremely good

I dunno this team is basically the same team as in the WC except for Gomez who wasn't playing then. They will be the favourite to win as always but it will not be easy.

Anyway
Next international friendly :
Germany - Belarus on May 27, 2008 in Kaiserslautern

This will be the last preparation match before Euro 2008

newcastlefan000

03-28-2008, 04:47 PM

BavarianRed

03-28-2008, 08:09 PM

I want Bosnia to play Germany so we can kick their butt!! yeah, Germany won't know what hit em when Pjanic sneaks into the box and BAM, heads in the ball.

lol ok most likely won't happen, but Bosnia would put up a good fight. They did beat Germany in a friendly in early 2000s.

lol yea i remember when bosnia beat germany i think it was 2-1 or some thing like that but still those are friendly's lol, in a competetive game no way they would win... remember U-21 i believe it was 8-1 lol.....

newcastlefan000

03-28-2008, 08:19 PM

no that was U19 when one of our players got a red card early on, 1st half was 0-0 lol and second half was 8-1

BavarianRed

03-28-2008, 08:25 PM

no that was U19 when one of our players got a red card early on, 1st half was 0-0 lol and second half was 8-1

lol yea i was like wtf 8 goals in the second half damm, bosnia had a good a-ss team in 2000 when they beat germany i cant lie, they had all their players in form and i was a bit surprised no to see them at world cup 2002..... they even beat france 2-1 a really difficult team to beat..

newcastlefan000

03-28-2008, 08:33 PM

damn man, we always have injured players or red cards on important games, it's driving me nuts. We never field the best players at once and when we do, we end up playing with 10 men! :mad: I know with our best players up there, we can surprise any country.

emode

05-22-2008, 02:38 AM

Upcoming International Friendly for German NT

May 27th. 2008 Germany vs Belarus
(Home Game)

May 31st. 2008 Germany vs Serbia
(Away Game)

Both are important matches before the start of Euro 2008. My prediction Germany will win both game altho the one against Serbis will be a tough one.

SiN

05-29-2008, 07:00 AM

Germany head coach Joachim Loew has dropped striker Patrick Helmes plus midfielders Jermaine Jones and teenager Marko Marin from his Euro 2008 squad, it was announced on Wednesday.

Loew named an extended squad on May 16 for a training camp in Mallorca, but had to drop three players before submitting his final 23-man squad for the tournament, co-hosted by Austria and Switzerland, which begins on June 7.

“The decision made by our coaching team was a very difficult one,” said Loew.

“It was a millimetre decision, because everyne of the three players earned their place in the Euro 2008 squad.

“The decision was especially hard as all three did well in the training camp and will have a role to play in the national team after the tournament.”

All three played in Tuesday night's 2-2 draw with minnows Belarus and were told of the decision is a team meeting on Wednesday morning.

Germany face Serbia in their final warm-up game in Gelsenkirchen on Saturday and open their Euro 2008 campaign against Poland in Klagenfurt on June 8.

Vic

05-29-2008, 08:58 AM

2-2 against Belarus. That wasn't what I had expected..

sjaan88

05-31-2008, 11:10 AM

Hey,
I thought Mario Gomez and Miroslav Klose would be in the startelf of the german team, but Mario Gomez wasn't in for the friendly a few days a go. He had some kind of injury. Do you think he will be in the startelf this tournamnet next to klose? or would it be podolski, or maybe kuranyi?
Maybe the german users of this forum can answer this question?
sjaan88

BavarianRed

06-01-2008, 06:07 PM

here are some highlights from yesterdays game vs serbia :)
hint: check out Ballack's free kick at his finest :smoking:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MuqTWD1M3E8

Andygers

06-01-2008, 06:56 PM

Germany will win this EURO, I have a feeling.

BavarianRed

06-01-2008, 08:21 PM

Germany will win this EURO, I have a feeling.

Well i can see Germany comming close like always but some how in the semi finals we get tough opponents and we always get beat, we always have bad luck when it comes in the euros, i dont know why but germany always seems to do better in world cup? where there is more pressure being put on them.....

It would be great if Germany win this years euro, but lets not get carried away to easily now because theres still a lot of good teams out there like Spain, France, Italy who have the potential to win the euros.........

ladis540

07-05-2008, 10:14 PM

Does anybody know the next time they are playing? After that bad beat against Spain I need some good soccer again.

XGermanyFFanX

07-09-2008, 01:01 PM

We need more good defenders and keepers!

emode

08-09-2008, 01:17 AM

Jens Lehmann the German NT goalkeeper has official resigned from his national team duty. He's 38 years old and it's time for him to step down anyway to give way for the younger keeper. But wht an achivement and contribution he had done. Well done Lehmann.

LEHMANN CALLS TIME ON GERMANY

09.August.2008
Germany goalkeeper Jens Lehmann has announced his retirement from international football.

The 38-year-old made the announcement on Friday afternoon following a two-hour meeting with Germany coach Joachim Low and his assistant Andreas Kopke.

The decision brings to an end a 10-year international career, the final game of which came in Germany's 1-0 defeat to Spain in the final of Euro 2008.

In a statement on the Germany Football Association (DFB) website, Lehmann revealed his decision had been made after he could not guarantee his long-term future in the meeting with Low and Kopke.

Lehmann had previously mooted retiring from the game before signing a 12-month deal with Bundesliga club

Stuttgart following his departure from Arsenal last season.

"I can't guarantee that I will still be playing football beyond the 12 months of my contract with Stuttgart," Lehmann said.

"Therefore, I suggested that the Germany team no longer include me in their plans. I have had a great time with them, and the 2006 World Cup was a particularly special experience."

emode

08-11-2008, 04:14 AM

Does anybody know the next time they are playing? After that bad beat against Spain I need some good soccer again.

Their next game will be Germany - Belgium on August 20, 2008 in Nürnberg.

Both teams have met before in 22 international matches. Germany won 17, Belgium four, one match ended with a draw. The last match on the 31st of march 2004 was won by Germany 3-0. Technically Germany should win this one easily :)

newcastlefan000

08-20-2008, 03:43 PM

Today's the game. I predict Germany 2-1 Belgium. They're missing Ballack and Frings during this friendly and the coach stated he's going to call up some youngsters ahead of the usual 11.

Question: I heard Germany is scheduling a game with Bayern Munich as a retirement celebration for Oliver Kahn. Kahn made a funny quote: "I hope Klinnsman fields me". Remember Klinnsman fielded Lehmann over Kahn in 2006 World Cup and now Klinnsman is also coach of Bayern Munich.

emode

08-22-2008, 01:31 AM

newcastlefan000

08-22-2008, 02:25 AM

Oliver Kahn lol, did you guys know he plays in a semi-pro rugby league in free time and also won some trophies in golf? The guy has more success in his secondary sports than most people do in their main sport.

BavarianRed

08-22-2008, 02:58 AM

^
The result
Germany 2 Belgium 0
I didn't actualy see this match but i think sweinsteiger and this new player Marin scored the goals or something like that....

Btw, I don't know about that Germany vs Bayern Munich game for Kahn retirement but Oliver Kahn has official retired and probably enjoying his free time now :)

Next Germany International Friendly
Germany vs Russia on October 11, 2008

This is going to be a hard one but i think Germany will draw this one with Russia.

i didnt catch the game but its a good result for us :)
schweinsteiger is the heart of Germany and i hope he will be playing for us
for a long time its always a pleasure watching him play :smoking:

Germany vs Bayern Munchen? I doubt that this game will happen for Kahn since he officially retired already ;)

Germany vs Russia will be a good test for us because Russia is a very tough opponent and we must take this friendly serious because if we lose badly than our hopes go down in beating them in the qualifiers ;)

ladis540

08-23-2008, 02:21 AM

Well lets see what they can do in qualifying, totally looking forward to this one. A lot of countries have to proof something after that euro cup.

BavarianRed

08-23-2008, 04:48 AM

i wont be surprised if Germany loses 1-0 or 2-0 to Russia, since they are a top class team that shouldnt be underestimated in any cercumstances.
i think the most likely score of this game will be a 1-1 draw....

newcastlefan000

08-23-2008, 04:50 AM

Germany 2-1 Russia.

BavarianRed

08-23-2008, 04:57 AM

Germany will probably be lucky to even score against Russia right now, i know that we will struggle against them because Germany hasnt been the same since the loss to Spain in the euros, but time goes on and i already forget about that cup, world cup 2010 were going to put up another good fight for the cup and thats what i like seeing, cant wait till 2012 when i go to Ukraine/Poland for euro 2012 but its still far away and if Germany doesnt qualify than theres no way im going lol.....

newcastlefan000

08-23-2008, 05:02 AM

emode

08-29-2008, 01:06 AM

Dude Spain 3-0 Russia, :). They can surprise, but they can also crap. Depends on who they're playing. Germany/Russia, they both have same style of physical quick play, so that's why luck will be cancelled out. Whoever has the better team on paper will actually decide this one.
German lost to Spain so i don't know ....they just have to take Russia seriously. But it's just a friendly match and still far away in October 11, 2008. I think it's going to be a draw between these two.

BavarianRed

08-29-2008, 01:55 AM

i think Russia 2-1 though, Germany isnt looking always has good and bad games there never consistent do i really doubt that they will beat a young team like Russia.... play with your heart and you will win, thats the only reason russia came so far in the euros trust me...^^

giorgiob8

09-02-2008, 04:54 PM

^
The result
Germany 2 Belgium 0
I didn't actualy see this match but i think sweinsteiger and this new player Marin scored the goals or something like that....

Btw, I don't know about that Germany vs Bayern Munich game for Kahn retirement but Oliver Kahn has official retired and probably enjoying his free time now :)

Next Germany International Friendly
Germany vs Russia on October 11, 2008

This is going to be a hard one but i think Germany will draw this one with Russia.

What are you all talking about here? I am clueless.

Germany's game on October 11 in Dortmund versus Russia IS NOT A FRIENDLY This is a full International match for World Cup 2010 qualification, and before this match Germany will play away games versus Liechtenstein and Finland.

Germany's next friendly is versus England in Berlin on November 19 as far as I know.

Flori64

09-02-2008, 06:25 PM

BavarianRed

09-02-2008, 06:57 PM

I'm very happy about this match against russia,because it is the only chance
to see in which shape the team is, because the rest of the qualification is to easy. You may call the game agianst england a friendly game, but these kind of games never take place against england :ronaldo::D

I also look forward to see these folks who managed the U19 Title of the Euro games. These geys are our future, an it seems to be very bright

The match against Russia will be a very difficult one, because we all saw how Russia managed to beat a fully loaded Netherlands squad. I just hope Neuer from Schalke 04 will get called up for starting goal keeper because we need someone like him in net because Russia will be comming out strong on us and wont take us lightly. The friendly against England will be a real good test for us to see if were able to go far in the world cup as we did in 06. I hope we get some youngsters on the field like last time when we handed them there first loss in new wembley 2-1 :smoking:
i cant wait till the U19 players come and play for our senior team because they showed that they have the winning mentality and beat everyone in the U19 tournament and we werent one of the favourites to win it :) The U19 team will be the heart of Germany and hopefully they will lead us to success in 2010, in Germany we trust, in Germany we believe :smoking:

emode

09-03-2008, 04:19 AM

What are you all talking about here? I am clueless.

Germany's game on October 11 in Dortmund versus Russia IS NOT A FRIENDLY This is a full International match for World Cup 2010 qualification, and before this match Germany will play away games versus Liechtenstein and Finland.

Germany's next friendly is versus England in Berlin on November 19 as far as I know.

Yeah my bad ...i am sorry and thnks for pointing it out. You are correct. It is not a friendly match but a WC qualifiying match. Okay i'm a girl and i live in Asia so give me a break lol :)

Next German NT matches actually

Sept 06.2008 Liechtenstein - Germany

Sept.10.2008 Finland - Germany

Oct.10.2008 Germany - Russia

Oct10.2008 Germany - Wales

All these are WC 2010 qualifying matches while the Germany vs England international friendly match will be in Nov.19.2008 in Berlin. Hope i get this one correct :p

emode

09-04-2008, 03:50 AM

Ballack out of opening World Cup qualifiers

Germany captain Michael Ballack has pulled out of forthcoming World Cup qualifiers against Liechtenstein and Finland.

Ballack's bruised and inflamed left foot means he will have to miss the September 6 clash against Liechtenstein and the game in Finland four days later.

Coach Joachim Löw, speaking at Oliver Kahn's farewell match in Munich, said: "Michael will not be playing against Finland," Löw said. "Because he must have a break of eight or nine days

I think it will be hard for the German National Team without Ballack...he's like the soul of the team.

@leo & Nermin - Pls try to stay on topic guys...any off topic has been moved and will be moved to the underground bar. Thnk you :)

A(Bosancero)

09-04-2008, 04:21 AM

Germany 2-1 Russia.

Germany 2-0 Russia

giorgiob8

09-04-2008, 04:00 PM

Yeah my bad ...i am sorry and thnks for pointing it out. You are correct. It is not a friendly match but a WC qualifiying match. Okay i'm a girl and i live in Asia so give me a break lol :)

No problem and Asian girls are the cutest ones!!!! :oops:

Are you a Bayern Fan too? You need to swing by our Message Board:

http://www.bayernforum.com/

Solid Snake

09-04-2008, 04:32 PM

@leo & Nermin - Pls try to stay on topic guys...any off topic has been moved and will be moved to the underground bar. Thnk you :)

no prob ;)

ladis540

09-06-2008, 11:21 PM

Can somebody explain why there are no names on the back of the jerseys in the qualifying? Not that i really need them, just curious to know.

A(Bosancero)

09-06-2008, 11:24 PM

they don't really need them i mean its just Light Stone! as they say in germany ;) congrats btw

Flori64

09-08-2008, 04:52 PM

I just hope Neuer from Schalke 04 will get called up for starting goal keeper because we need someone like him in net because Russia will be comming out strong on us and wont take us lightly. :smoking:

Adler will be back in time, and he is the better one, because he is more constant,Neuer sometimes is brilliant and sometimes...

but he is young enough,so maybe in 2 years :)

Flori64

09-08-2008, 04:57 PM

Can somebody explain why there are no names on the back of the jerseys in the qualifying? Not that i really need them, just curious to know.

That was the idea of some old men of The FIFA organisation , everbody hates this decision, we are back in 1954 :boo: but more important they have to use the numbers from 1-11,so ballack can't use 13, Gomez can't use 33 and so on.

giorgiob8

09-09-2008, 04:26 PM

That was the idea of some old men of The FIFA organisation , everbody hates this decision, we are back in 1954 :boo: but more important they have to use the numbers from 1-11,so ballack can't use 13, Gomez can't use 33 and so on.

Although I do not agree with removing the names form the jerseys I do not fully agree with setting the limit on 18 for numbers I believe it is good to have certain control over how jerseys are numbered.

For 2010 World Cup including qualifiers (and I am reciting from memory what I read in the FIFA website a while back) teams will number their jerseys consecutively from 1 to 18. Not 1 to 11 as you mentioned, Hitzlsperger wore number 15 as a starter and Marin wore Michael Ballack’s 13.

I would not mind seeing jerseys numbered up to 23 and 24 as this has been done before when teams had to submit a roster of 24 to FIFA before certain deadline, then drop some players for the final list; but I would hate to see those 88’s or 99’s that make Football (soccer) jerseys look like American Football. I also oppose to the practice of “retiring jerseys” like mainly American Sports which Argentina tried to do in the last WC asking FIFA to retire jersey No.10 in honor to Maradona. Well said by FIFA when they told them: you can retire the jersey as long as you subtract a player from the roster.

Coincidentally, Argentina also used a stupid system to number the jerseys in World Cup 1978 that they hosted but only their own team used it: alphabetically, so Osvaldo Ardiles wore Number 1 jersey playing in the field (weird!), to prove how stupid the system was, for the following World Cup they used it again but Maradona refused to wear his assigned number and took the 10 instead (who could have faced his ego even at that age), by 1986 nobody in Argentina remembered how ridiculous the system was and let the players wear what was available. As a side note: In 2006 FIFA established the number 1 must be used by a goalkeeper.

In Italy's Serie A they implemented a system in the early 90's where starters had to wear numbers from 1 to 11, so it was ridiculous to see a back-up player taking the number of the regular player for only one match when that one was suspended, rested or injured.

Another interesting fact is that Players in the first World Cup did not wear numbers.

I also hate how some German teams (like Bayern Munich) placed the team name on top of the number and the player’s name on the bottom. It is taken one thing that has been proven to be right and making it wrong.

ladis540

09-10-2008, 06:53 PM

Thanks for the explanation giorgiob8 great explanation. I dont like it on Bayern either, but its almsot like watching the german national team play, so i can easily forgive that,lol.:lol:

emode

11-01-2008, 03:41 AM

BALLACK KEEPS CAPTAINCY ROLE
Michael Ballack will remain as Germany captain after holding clear-the-air talks with coach Joachim Low.

The pair met for talks in in Frankfurt on Thursday night in the wake of comments made by the 32-year-old midfielder in a recent newspaper interview.

Low said in a statement on Friday: "I am delighted that an excellent national team player who has played a major part in our success over the last few years is still available for selection and will continue to help us in achieving the goals we have set on the way to the 2010 World Cup.

"Michael Ballack remains my captain."

Ballack issued an apology to Low last Saturday in which he admitted criticising the coach's treatment of Torsten Frings and Kevin Kuranyi had been a mistake.

And the issues appear to have now been settled following Thursday's meeting in the German Football Association (DFB) headquarters.

"It was important that we were very open with this discussion," added Low.

Looks like ballack he's around till 2010 in WC South Africa :)

BavarianRed

11-02-2008, 03:12 AM

Good old Ballack, always followed his matched since i was a kid :)
best years from him was when he was still playing for Bayern :D
he will be a legend for Germany when he retires in 2010 without a doubt hes done a lot for Bayern and Germany cant ask for more..

A(Bosancero)

11-02-2008, 05:09 PM

I think it would be awesome if Germany won the world cup for Ballack hopefully it doesn't turn like what happened to zidane, :brick:

emode

11-04-2008, 06:01 AM

Next International Friendly

Germany vs England
19th. November.2008 in Berlin

This is the traditional rivalry game between these two teams. The last time they met Germany beat England in Wembley.

newcastlefan000

11-04-2008, 02:06 PM

^ NICEE..... forgot all bout it!

prediction: Germany 2-1 England

newcastlefan000

11-14-2008, 08:56 PM

Joachim Low has called up 2 Hoffenheim players for the friendly against England. Those are Marvin Compper and Tobias Weis. Everyone expected Andreas Beck to be the top Hoffenheim contestant to be called up for the German national team, but unexpectadly, 2 other players got called up instead.

BillyDWhizz

11-19-2008, 08:49 PM

Im sorry did you say 2-1 Germany? You have just been beaten in Berlin by a half strength England team, who in all honesty desreved to win by more. The days of a fragile England team are over..5 wins out of 6 for the new manager. If I were you Id put a few Euros on England winning the WC in South Africa in 2010. ;-)

newcastlefan000

11-19-2008, 09:01 PM

^ I'm not even German ??

congratulations ??

lol

BavarianRed

11-22-2008, 11:10 PM

lol friendlies mean nothing, who all know who chokes when it comes to the big game.... hahah... Go celebrate your friendly win while it lasts..

Ba13ack

02-16-2009, 11:14 PM

Check it out
VVV

emode

02-17-2009, 01:00 AM

Okay thnks .... :)
Can't believe u joined this forum just to post that :)

Results International Friendly
11th. Feb.2009
Germany 0 vs Norway 1

Lacklustre Germany was inflicted a 1-0 loss by visitor Norway in a friendly international in Duesseldorf on Wednesday. A second-half goal from Christian Grindheim handed Norway the sole score of the game. Germany lacked spark and creativity despite the return of captain Michael Ballack and fellow midfielder Torsten Frings, who settled a dispute with coach Joachim Loew following the Euro 2008 final defeat against Spain.

emode

03-27-2009, 01:32 AM

Next game for German NT

German vs Liechtenstein on March 28 2009

German Vs Wales on April 1 2009

Both are qualifying games for the 2010 FIFA World Cup.

BavarianRed

03-27-2009, 01:48 AM

Next game for German NT

German vs Liechtensteinon March 28 2009

German Vs Wales on April 1 2009

Both are qualifying games for the 2010 FIFA World Cup.

its not German, if the whole national team german than it would be ok to say "germans vs wales" but not in this case, when you have different nationalities playing for Germany..

Germany vs Lichtenstein ;), March 28th(Leipzig)

Germany vs Wales ;), (Millennium - Cardiff) ;)

emode

03-27-2009, 01:58 AM

^ 0k lol :thumb: :p

N-way Germany is currently top of their qualifying group and are unbeaten with three wins and a draw to give them a four-point lead over their main group rivals Russia.

Winning these two games will be important to ensure they maintain the top position as group leaders before they travel to Moscow in October. So good luck to Germany!!!

ladis540

03-30-2009, 01:09 PM

Ballack def united the team against Lichtenstein.

emode

04-03-2009, 01:37 AM

Ballack def united the team against Lichtenstein.
Yeah the captain is back! In both matches against Lichtenstein and Wales he scored fantastic early opening goals which gives confidence to the rest of his team. As a result Germany won both matches and leading the group. Perhaps in 2010, Ballack will lead his team to lift the World Cup... It will be his final chance. :)

Next away game
The German national team will play their next away game against China on May 29th, 2009 in Shanghai. It's an international friendly match i think.

Lusankya

04-04-2009, 10:34 AM

emode

04-27-2009, 03:19 AM

And right after this we'll play United Arab Emirates. I think these two away games are the perfect preparation for the Azerbaijan match in August.
Azerbaijan's home record was very impressive during EURO 2008 qualification until Serbia thrashed them 6:1, but still I don't expect an easy German win. More like a 1:0 or 2:1 for GER.

Hey lusankya ...it's nice to see someone from germany in here. Please keep us updated okay :)

I think Germany can win both upcoming matches against China and UAE quite easily. I live in Asia and sadly to say our football level are not anything close to European standard yet...but it's always great to play againsts any team like Germany.

Lusankya

04-28-2009, 09:42 AM

Hi emode, I try to keep you uptodate. ;)

Well I need to change my mind. This "Asia tour" isn't that good, but just because of the date!

What's the point in testing, if you will use ~10 new players in the next real match?

Now a list of players, who will not play these friendlies:

Ballack (Chelsea plays FA Cup final)
Adler
Helmes
Kießling
Rolfes
Wiese
Mertesacker
Frings
Fritz
All play in the DFB-Pokal (German FA Cup) final
Neuer
Özil
Marin
Beck
Tasci
All prepare for the U-21 EURO

Klose and Arne Friedrich aren't sure yet, because of their injuries.

So Enke is our only real keeper (and even he can miss out, if Hannover would fall to rank 16 till the end of the season -> relegation matches) and our only strikers could be Gomez and Podolski.

I don't get it, why the DFB couldn't use the official FIFA dates for national team matches. It would be just a few days later, but we could have used nearly all of our players.

So our line-up in the best case could be:

- - - - - - - - - Enke - - - - - - -
Hinkel - Friedrich - Westermann - Lahm
- - - - - Jones - - Hitzlsperger - -
Schweinsteiger - - - - - - - - Jansen
- - - Klose/Podolski - - Gomez - - -

We can't use many young players because of the U-21 EURO, but probably we will see players like Schäfer, Gentner, Riether (Wolfsburg).

I hope the matches against China and UAE will still be a good preparation for the matches against Azerbaijan (we never played them). Probably I rate them too high, but Germany absolutely need these 6 points or else a draw in Russia might not be enough (if they win their next 3 games, but two are away games vs Wales and Finland so I doubt that).

Lusankya

05-06-2009, 07:11 PM

LindavG

05-06-2009, 07:38 PM

Well done to Germany :)

We drew England :yawn:

BavarianRed

05-06-2009, 07:40 PM

Today the U-17 EURO in Germany began. Germany won 3:1 vs Turkey.

Other matches:

Italy - Spain 0:0
France - Switzerland 1:1
England - Netherlands 1:1

Next match for the German team will be saturday vs England. :)

Good victory for us, next up england :smoking:
any highlights on this game, i want to see how we played.
I wish i could of watched the match though but freakin school ruins
everything :boo:

Lusankya

05-06-2009, 08:19 PM

We didn't play that good, but should still have won with 1 or 2 more goals. I don't know where you can find highlights, maybe on DFB.de or UEFA.com. It was broadcasted on Eurosport, so perhaps someone recorded and uploaded it.

Next games will be decisive, but England and the Netherlands are much better than Turkey. But at least we should secure our spot for the next U18 world cup (the first three of each group qualify).

Lusankya

05-09-2009, 01:46 PM

Germany U17 4:0 England U17
:D

Great, we're the first team which is qualified for the semifinals.

Other results:

Spain U17 0:0 France U17
Turkey U17 1:2 Netherlands U17
Italy U17 1:3 Switzerland U17

BavarianRed

05-09-2009, 05:33 PM

Germany U17 4:0 England U17

We outclassed the english young side today, all of our goals were class, our passing was so dam slick, we could of easily won by more, we dominated in possession for most of the game but they did came out firing in the 1st 10 minutes of the game but after we scored the 1st goal the rest came easier, next up the Netherlands :D
I bet Linda will watch this :D

newcastlefan000

05-09-2009, 06:59 PM

Lusankya and BavarianRed, tell me what you think.......who should make the German attacking duo??

Poldi is on a huge rise and last couple of games he was one of Bayern's best players. Today, he scored and also assisted.

Gomez scored 4 goals today against the #1 team and is top scorer with Grafite with 23 goals!!

Helmes is 4th top scorer with 19 goals.

Klose is still out there too..

I think we should give the young ones a chance and IMO, I think Gomez fixed himself and has much more potential than the woeful display he showed us on Euro 2008. I think since they're both young 23 year old......Poldi-Gomez would be a great duo.

son_of_a_Turk

05-09-2009, 08:00 PM

Would Hamit make the starting line up for Germany if he were to play for Germany?

What about Tasçı and Özil? Are they going to be regulars for Germany?

LindavG

05-09-2009, 08:08 PM

newcastlefan000

05-09-2009, 08:19 PM

Would Hamit make the starting line up for Germany if he were to play for Germany?

What about Tasçı and Özil? Are they going to be regulars for Germany?

Ozil in the future....definately. He oozes class in Bremen. Hamit.....maybe. Not too sure who plays right midfielder in Germany, but from what I've seen from Hamit.....he would have a decent chance.

Salihovic would make left midfielder and Dzeko striker. Not too sure about playmaker, but I think Misimovic can get that position too considering Ballack is getting old and their second best playmaker is Trochowski and he did nowhere near what Misimovic did so far this season.

son_of_a_Turk

05-09-2009, 08:22 PM

Your Bundesliga striker guys ain't starting over Klose/Podolski/Gomez. We all saw today Gomez raped your team.

newcastlefan000

05-09-2009, 08:26 PM

Dzeko raped Bayern and everyone else.

Dzeko also scored a goal on Stuttgart so who gives a shit?

Misimovic wasn't raped because he was subbed off and couldn't play so that's why Stuttgart won in the first place.......team crumbled when Misimovic was injured :smoking:.

Little bitch Grafite couldn't score when Dzeko was giving him perfect balls and one tap in chance for Grafite that he shot wide.

Dzeko is miles ahead of Poldi...better than the aging Klose....and probably tied with Gomez. Ibisevic is better than Poldi and probably tied with Klose. I think Dzeko, Ibisevic, Poldi, Klose, and Gomez are all about tied......with Dzeko and Gomez going to be better in the future.

BavarianRed

05-10-2009, 10:24 PM

I don't follow the U17 tournament but good that we beat Turkey :) I'd like to see the Netherlands - Germany game but I hope I'll remember to watch it. I'm I correct, the current standings are this:

1. Germany 2 6
2. Netherlands 2 4
3. England 2 1
4. Turkey 2 0

I don't understand the format though. Will the top 2 of each group go on to the SF? I can't seem to find it anywhere :dontcare:

I did read that both Germany and the Netherlands have already qualified for the U17 World Cup by the way :)

I want to watch Germany-Netherlands too but i doubt it since i have school on that day :boo: hopefully ill catch a repeat or download the game..
Actually its the top 3 that go through i dont know why but thats what i read on uefa... and yes Both Germany and Netherlands are already qualified hopefully it will be a great between them two, i predict a 1-1 draw not that the game matters to us but hopefully a draw :D

Highlights of Germany 4-0 England :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbRsaF8ZP0E&feature=channel_page

LindavG

05-10-2009, 10:47 PM

^ The top 3 goes through? Well it's not very competitive then :dontcare: But then there's 6 teams in the SF, how can that be possible? And it can't be a QF either because then there should be 8 teams... weird :dontcare: Anyway, we are already through to the next round so who cares :D

BavarianRed

05-10-2009, 11:05 PM

Well heres from uefa, But your right the first two go through, the 3rd seed has to face another 3rd seed to decide who goes to the european world cup or something like that, not too sure..

The UEFA European Under-17 Championship consists of three distinct stages; the qualifying round, the Elite round and the final round. The qualifying round, played in autumn, is made up of 13 groups of four teams playing in one-venue mini-tournaments. The top two from each progress alongside the two third-placed teams with the best record against the top pair in their group. In the Elite round, played in early spring, those 28 qualifiers compete in seven mini-tournament groups of four. The group winners then join the hosts in the finals in early May, and are split into two groups of four, with the top two progressing to the semi-finals and ultimately the final.

weird formation if you ask me ;)

Lusankya

05-11-2009, 10:02 AM

Would Hamit make the starting line up for Germany if he were to play for Germany?

I don't know, especially as there is no need to discuss this topic, because he won't play for Germany.

What about Tasçı and Özil? Are they going to be regulars for Germany?
We still don't know which player will occupy the spot as second defender besides Mertesacker. Tasci has good chances to become the one as I don't see many other players. His only competition would be Westermann but his position isn't really clear, he sometimes plays as a striker or midfielder in Schalke. So Tasci would be my choice, especially as he gets more and more experienced and so he will avoid making some unforced errors like he still do sometimes.

Özil will play the U-21 EURO in June, and all our best players which are still eligible to do so as well. This tournament has a high priority so Özil won't play during the Asia tour (he couldn't do this anyway, because Bremen plays the DFB Cup final).
After this we will see him maybe already in the qualifiers vs Azerbaijan, we have high hopes that Özil will become a key player in our midfield. But he will have competition. As Marin, Schweinsteiger and Trochowski all play quite similiar positions (none of them plays DM, so there are only 3 positions left in midfield at max.).

LindavG

05-12-2009, 10:01 PM

Well, just like I thought, I missed the Netherlands - Germany game :lol: I read that we lost 2-0 but we are through to the SF anyway because England (our main competitor) lost too (1-0 to Turkey). So now the next games are:

Netherlands - Switzerland
Germany - Italy

I don't know if we should be happy with Switzerland, they have gotten some excellent results and lead their group, on top of Italy, Spain and France :shocked:

These are the results they had:

France 1-1 Switzerland
Italy 1-3 Switzerland
Switzerland 0-0 Spain

I do hope the Netherlands and Germany go through to the final so we can do a reiteration of last game and hopefully we do win this time ;)

The SF are on Friday by the way.

LindavG

05-12-2009, 11:23 PM

I am already looking forward to the U17 World Cup to be honest, I wonder what young talents we are going to see, esp. from countries like Brazil, Argentina and Spain :)

These countries have qualified:

AFC: Iran, Japan, South Korea, United Arab Emirates
CAF: Nigeria (hosts), Algeria, Burkina Faso, Gambia, Niger
CONCACAF: Costa Rica, Honduras, Mexico, United States
CONMEBOL: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, Uruguay
OFC: New Zealand
UEFA: Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey

The tournament will be held in Nigeria from October 24 to November 15, 2009 :)

newcastlefan000

05-12-2009, 11:28 PM

Lindav......wat you think should be the German striking duo?? I not sure... :(

son_of_a_Turk

05-13-2009, 07:56 PM

I don't know, especially as there is no need to discuss this topic, because he won't play for Germany.

We still don't know which player will occupy the spot as second defender besides Mertesacker. Tasci has good chances to become the one as I don't see many other players. His only competition would be Westermann but his position isn't really clear, he sometimes plays as a striker or midfielder in Schalke. So Tasci would be my choice, especially as he gets more and more experienced and so he will avoid making some unforced errors like he still do sometimes.

Özil will play the U-21 EURO in June, and all our best players which are still eligible to do so as well. This tournament has a high priority so Özil won't play during the Asia tour (he couldn't do this anyway, because Bremen plays the DFB Cup final).
After this we will see him maybe already in the qualifiers vs Azerbaijan, we have high hopes that Özil will become a key player in our midfield. But he will have competition. As Marin, Schweinsteiger and Trochowski all play quite similiar positions (none of them plays DM, so there are only 3 positions left in midfield at max.).

Thanks for the sincere answer

LindavG

05-15-2009, 11:06 AM

Well, Holland made it to the finals of the Euro U17 by beating Switzerland 2-1, let's see if we can meet Germany there :) Germany is playing Italy at 17.45 CET.

Salt The Fries

05-15-2009, 11:14 AM

Turkey is much better on U-19 and U-21 level, so you have no reasons to think that we suck based on U-17 results. I'm saying that just in case.

LindavG

05-15-2009, 11:36 AM

Turkey is much better on U-19 and U-21 level, so you have no reasons to think that we suck based on U-17 results. I'm saying that just in case.

Who are you talking to, me? I never mentioned anything remotedly negative about Turkey in any of my posts ;)

I don't think you can compare U17 teams with national teams, although it is hopeful for the future to see youth teams perform well on a European and World stage :)

Salt The Fries

05-15-2009, 11:51 AM

That's why I said "I'm saying that just in case" which meant that I'm not directing or refering to anyone in particular, because no one has said or implied that, including you, sweetheart :) I said that just in case someone would think that our youth teams are just plain bad.

LindavG

05-15-2009, 01:52 PM

^ OK ;) I thought you meant "just in case" I thought that, because your post came right after mine ;) But never mind then.

Lusankya

05-15-2009, 05:52 PM

Germany won 2:0 vs Italy. :D
Great, now we "just" need to beat the Netherlands again. Well, it will be much harder than the group game.

LindavG

05-16-2009, 12:14 AM

Germany won 2:0 vs Italy. :D
Great, now we "just" need to beat the Netherlands again. Well, it will be much harder than the group game.

That's good news! I was hoping for a Netherlands - Germany final in Germany :D I do think Germany has a better team than us (judging by the latest results) but who knows, in the final anything can happen :)

BavarianRed

05-16-2009, 02:19 AM

Cant believe we left it so late to defeat Italy in the semi finals but oh well, at least we can out with the victory in the end, 2-0 Fur Deutschland :smoking:

Finale: Niederland und Deutschland, ist klasse finale :smoking:
Alle Duetschland :D

Deutschland 2-0 Italien
The second goal was classic :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuSwnZ3aURc

newcastlefan000

05-16-2009, 05:09 AM

They play like EPL

BavarianRed

05-17-2009, 05:01 PM

Tomorrow is the finals:

Germany vs Netherlands, at 11:00 am German time,
dam so thats at 5:00 am where i live, thats pretty early
for a big game like this but w/e ill still watch it hopefully
Germany wins infront of their wins :D

LindavG

05-17-2009, 05:05 PM

I'll be having my first final exam at that time, from 9.00 - 12.30 so I can't watch it :(

BavarianRed

05-18-2009, 02:05 AM

Record-breaking crowd ready to witness U17 final

On Tuesday Germany beat the Netherlands 2-0 but the result satisfied both teams as they each qualified from the UEFA European Under-17 Championship group stage. There can be only one winner when the nations are matched again in Monday's final at 11.00CET at a sold-out Stadion Magdeburg.

Precedents
Hosts Germany hope to match the feat of France, who were the most recent hosts to triumph in 2004 and also the last U17 champions with a perfect five victories, culminating in a final watched by the current competition record crowd of 13,000 in Chateauroux, a mark that will be broken by around 10,000 on Monday. But the Netherlands had much of the play when losing to Germany in Jena, and home coach Marco Pezzaiuoli is expecting another tough game.

Dutch ability
"They are a typical Dutch team," Pezzaiuoli said. "They play 4-3-3 with very technical football. They try to keep possession, the same as Spain. They have a good striker and we need to work hard in defence and take our chances up front. The Netherlands are highly motivated after losing the group game. But one thing is important, we need to be proud of the first game, we won 2-0 and we have enough strength left to win the final."

Confidence
Netherlands coach Albert Stuivenberg, who like Pezzaiuoli expects to have a full squad available, takes comfort from his side's showing against Germany. "It was a group game and we know they were without four players, but still the match gave us confidence," he said. "We know we can create chances against Germany but they are a very strong side, very fit. It is a different game with a full stadium and the tension of the final though I'm confident the players can handle that."

Nerves
Most inside the stadium will be behind Germany, and Pezzaiuoli is hoping his side have become accustomed to the expectations of the large home support. "In the first game against Turkey they were a bit nervous early on, the same against England, the crowd was 8,500," he said. "On Monday morning there will be 23,000 people in the stadium, a new situation for the players but I hope they can keep their minds on football."

Development
Germany proved their stamina in scoring two late goals to beat Italy 2-0 in the semi-finals, while earlier on Friday the Netherlands clung on in a 2-1 defeat of Switzerland, not for the first time in this fortnight showing a steely edge. "There has been a development in the team," Stuivenberg said. "When you have success something grows. At the beginning I did not know this team had these qualities."

Löw congratulations
If the Netherlands succeed, they would be the first Dutch side to win a European youth title having been runners-up in this competition four years ago, while Germany – in their first U17 final – have been congratulated by a man who worked with Pezzaiuoli a decade ago at Karlsruher SC, Joachim Löw. "He sent a message, he congratulated us on playing well, and said we presented Germany very well and he's very happy," Pezzaiuoli revealed.
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Even though this game will be on at 5:00 am where i live, Ill still get up some how and watch this game and hopefully Germany become U-17 European champions :D, I think with the crowd behind us we will take this game 3-1 :smoking:

Elby Glory

05-18-2009, 03:43 AM

Where can I watch the game and what time is it in England?

LindavG

05-18-2009, 01:29 PM

Well, the game ended 2-1 for Germany, they scored the winner in extra time :(

Germany secure maiden U17 crown

Germany won the UEFA European Under-17 Championship for the first time after defeating the Netherlands 2-1 through substitute Florian Trinks's extra-time free-kick in front of a competition record 24,000 crowd at the Stadion Magdeburg.

Trinks winner
The tournament hosts had to come from behind but were deserved winners. Luc Castaignos had opened the scoring with an emphatic early strike, but Germany – who had beaten the Netherlands 2-0 in the group stage – were on level terms by half-time thanks to Lennart Thy's close-range header. Germany poured forward after the break, but could not force a winner in normal time. However, with penalties looming, Trinks struck a magnificent free-kick into the top corner to hand Germany the title.

Early shock
Both coaches named unchanged lineups from the semi-finals but, as had been the case in a number of their games, Germany started nervously and the early dominance of the Netherlands paid off in the eighth minute. Shabir Isoufi drove down the right channel and slipped in fellow Feyenoord forward Castaignos whose first-time effort whistled in at Marc-André ter Stegen's near post. Seeing the tournament hosts fall behind stunned the large crowd but Germany responded well. Kevin Scheidhauer fired wide after being released by Matthias Zimmermann and then Mario Götze shot over when well placed.

Dead-ball danger
Dynamic play from the Netherlands' forward line was still causing Germany's defence a headache, though, and in the 22nd minute, Castaignos sped clear and beat Ter Stegen again only for his shot to come back off the post. With the majority of the noisy crowd behind them, Germany were beginning to dictate the pace and looked especially dangerous at set-pieces. It was from one of these, in the 34th minute, that they equalised. Christopher Buchtmann's deep free-kick was headed against the bar by Scheidhauer and Thy was on hand to nod in the rebound. The goalscorer then nearly added a second only to be brilliantly denied by Patrick ter Mate following another dead-ball delivery as Germany finished the half with a flourish.

Germany pressure
Germany started the second period on the front foot as Scheidhauer turned Mats van Huijgevoort and poked through for Götze whose shot was blocked by the solid Ter Mate. The hosts were looking increasingly menacing and a succession of corners had the Jong Oranje scrambling to clear. The lively Götze then narrowly shot over from Bienvenue Basala-Mazana's cross as the pressure mounted on the Netherlands.

Trinks intervention
Götze forced Ter Mate to spill a cross and Thy just failed to reach Trinks's centre, but as they flooded men forward, Germany were nearly caught on the counterattack, substitute striker Rangelo Janga spurning two gilt-edged opportunities. The decider moved into extra time, with Germany again looking the more likely to break the deadlock and so it proved as Götze won a free-kick with three minutes remaining which Trinks fired into the top corner to cue huge celebrations in Magdeburg.

Source: http://www.uefa.com/competitions/under17/fixturesresults/round=15210/match=2001173/report=rp.html

Salt The Fries

05-18-2009, 01:35 PM

Well, the game ended 2-1 for Germany, they scored the winner in extra time :(

Typical German way. :p

LindavG

05-18-2009, 01:39 PM

Typical German way. :p

True :lol: But at least they win, we always play great football but then we lose the crucial games.. We are like the Arsenal of national teams lol :p

Lusankya

05-18-2009, 02:24 PM

BavarianRed

05-18-2009, 03:12 PM

Typical? 5 matches, 5 wins 13:2 goals, Germany is the only logical winner in this tournament.

I am really happy. :)
Ever since Sammer took charge in our youth department, you can see the success (well, the improvement of our youth development programs began already began after the failure during the EURO 2000). First U-17 wc third, providing the best player. Then U-19 EURO champion, now U-17 EURO champion.
I hope some of these guy become players of the senior team in the future. Now we need a better integration of our young players in the Bundesliga teams.

Here the last goal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxgQb1wXDXk

oh man what a final, i punched the wall after the 2nd goal went in, Klasse tooooooooooooooooooooooor :smoking:
The keeper thought it was going wide than it curled in, one of the best finals in U-17 :), After we went down 1-0, i thought ah man were going to lose this game, than 1-1 near the end of the first half. Than in the 2nd half we clearly dominated them but we just couldnt finish our chances, Ter mate was in top form and it showed today, that it was going to take something special to beat him, and he got what he deserved in extra time, from a free kick goal from about 30 metres :) now save that :smoking:

BavarianRed

05-18-2009, 03:13 PM

I bet Linda cant stand this picture :smoking:

http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/photo/competitions/under17/83/09/61/830961_biglandscape.jpg

BavarianRed

05-18-2009, 03:49 PM

more pictures :D

http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/photo/competitions/under17/83/09/62/830962_biglandscape.jpg

http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/photo/competitions/under17/83/09/60/830960_biglandscape.jpg

http://www.dfb.de/fileadmin/bildstrecken/nachwuchsmannschaften/U17-EM-Finale-09/01.jpg

LindavG

05-18-2009, 08:44 PM

^ Do you have to rub it in like that :(

Salt The Fries

05-18-2009, 08:47 PM

http://sport.ard.de/sp/fussball/news200709/09/img/video_schweinsteiger_ard_400.jpg

Musicá

05-18-2009, 08:48 PM

Anyone else think Bastian looks incredibly finnish?
Finaslan?

LindavG

05-19-2009, 12:36 AM

http://sport.ard.de/sp/fussball/news200709/09/img/video_schweinsteiger_ard_400.jpg

Ew.

LindavG

05-19-2009, 12:37 AM

Anyone else think Bastian looks incredibly finnish?
Finaslan?

For all the Finnish women out there I sure hope he doesn't :lol:

Elby Glory

05-19-2009, 12:40 AM

Linda sorry but you have no taste he is so sexy ummmm........:love::hungry:

@joganof nah he looks fully German

A(Bosancero)

05-19-2009, 04:27 AM

I bet Linda cant stand this picture :smoking:

http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/photo/competitions/under17/83/09/61/830961_biglandscape.jpg

Nice going Germany! Haha... one for the GERMANZZZZZZZZ

TM87_Maniac

05-19-2009, 04:32 AM

Heil Deutschland! :smoking:

TM87_Maniac

05-19-2009, 04:35 AM

anybody else think Marko Marin looks extremely Bosnian?.........oh wait

http://i44.tinypic.com/dh7pxy.jpg

A(Bosancero)

05-19-2009, 04:40 AM

Nope.... Most Bosnians are dark haired.

TM87_Maniac

05-19-2009, 04:42 AM

Nope.... Most Bosnians are dark haired.

from what I've seen were about 50/50 on the light dark hair thing, Marko Marin looks like a typical kid from Dolina (village my grandma lives in,close to Zavidovici):lol:

A(Bosancero)

05-19-2009, 04:44 AM

No man we look like Greek/Turkish People with a hint of Italian. Its true....

TM87_Maniac

05-19-2009, 04:55 AM

No man we look like Greek/Turkish People with a hint of Italian. Its true....

no way, I seldom see Bosnians who look Greek or Turkish, we do look Italian though, I've been mistaken for Italian so many times its not funny but idk, my dad looks like he's from Sweden and my mom looks like she is from Spain. Bosnia is a country where a bunch of different sub races settled so I don't think its right to say all Bosnians look like Greek/Turks/Italians.

A(Bosancero)

05-19-2009, 04:58 AM

I disagree... recently I went to a Turkfest festival for Bosnians and Turks, and they all looked the same it was really funny. Actually this one Turkish guy came up to me and started speaking Turkish and I said I don't speak Turkish lol.

TM87_Maniac

05-19-2009, 05:01 AM

wth thats weird when me and my dad go somewhere people usually ask us stuff about Germany :lol: and how to say certain things in German....when I was in Austria a lady came up to me and started speaking German I was like wtf, same thing happened in Munich several times, and it wasn't questions or anything these people were forcing small talk and I had no clue what they were saying so I could only conclude they thought I was German

A(Bosancero)

05-19-2009, 05:13 AM

Ha thats really funny, I guess it just depends...

BavarianRed

05-21-2009, 12:44 AM

As at any UEFA European Under-17 Championship finals, the 2009 edition in Germany which finished on Monday showcased a glut of talented players set to follow in the footsteps of recent tournament alumni like Wayne Rooney, Cesc Fàbregas and Bojan Krkić. uefa.com's reporting team over the last fortnight look at ten players from across the eight competing nations who made their mark.

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Patrick ter Mate (Netherlands)
Not the tallest goalkeeper in the finals, Vitesse/AGOVV academy custodian Ter Mate made up for that with positioning, bravery and shot-stopping ability. The Netherlands had to hold out late on in their games against England, Turkey and Switzerland and Ter Mate ensured they did just that before a magnificent display in the final despite the 2-1 loss to Germany. Italy's Mattia Perin probably gave the individual goalkeeping performance of the finals in the 0-0 draw with Spain.

Janick Kamber (Switzerland)
Switzerland had several impressive performers including holding player Kofi Nimeley and left midfielder Granit Xhaka, but it was FC Basel 1893 left-back Kamber who really caught the eye. Singled out by coach Dany Ryer after the 3-1 victory against Italy that ultimately won them Group B, Kamber was assured in defence and a threat going forward, especially when he was promoted to left midfield, and his two goals were beaten by only two players in the finals.

Marc Muniesa (Spain)
Much was made of the fact that defending champions Spain, despite the best efforts of midfielder Koke and striker Borja, did not score a goal during the tournament, but they did not concede a one either and that has a lot to do with the performances of centre-back Muniesa. The FC Barcelona youth team member - who already competes with players two years older than him - does not just resemble Carles Puyol in looks, displaying a calm presence in the heart of the defence. Left-footed and strong in the air, Spain coach Ginés Meléndez made a point of highlighting his contribution after he returned from a ten month injury lay-off.

Dennis Appiah (France)
Paired with captain Darnel Situ, Dennis Appiah cemented a defence which only conceded three goals, none from open play. The AS Monaco FC player may be small but has great timing in the tackle and an ability to launch attacks with precise distribution, and can also operate in midfield.

Marco Fossati (Italy)
Along with captain Alessandro De Vitis and 16-year-old Lorenzo Crisetig, FC Internazionale Milano's Fossati shone in a solid Italy midfield. Comfortable with both feet, Fossati was the fulcrum of all the Azzurrini's best play. He was the only player born in 1992 to start the the prestigious Campionato Allievi Nazionali final last year, alongside fellow Inter player and UEFA Champions League rising star Davide Santon.

Deniz Herber (Turkey)
The two stars of the Turkey squad, Gökhan Töre and Muhammet Demir, had frustrating tournaments with the former being sent off against Germany and the latter not at his best after recovering from a long-term knee injury. Deniz's displays in the thick of the action were to be admired as he won possession well and used it effectively. Based in Germany at FC St. Pauli, the player looked very comfortable at this level and was instrumental in Turkey's 1-0 win against England which secured his nation a FIFA U-17 World Cup spot.

Christopher Buchtmann (Germany)
Why did Liverpool FC sign this left-winger (who can also play at full-back) a year ago? Watching him in the finals, it was obvious. He scored in the opening 3-1 win against Turkey and also set up a goal in that match as well as three in the 4-0 defeat of England and the first in the 2-0 semi-final victory over Italy. His free-kick also led to the equaliser in the final. Buchtmann has plenty of skill, can switch flanks and does not shirk defensive duties.

Jack Wilshere (England)
England promised more than they delivered in the finals but Arsenal FC forward Wilshere bolstered his reputation, giving the Netherlands a torrid time in the opening game which his side were unfortunate to only draw 1-1. When he was on the ball, anything could happen, especially when he was linking with club-mate Luke Freeman or tall midfielder Jonjo Shelvey.

Lennart Thy (Germany)
Germany's three-man forward line of the big Kevin Scheidhauer, creative Mario Götze and menacing Thy was formidable, with final free-kick hero Florian Trinks in reserve. Thy especially performed impressively since it took two weeks of intensive treatment on a groin injury before the finals to get him fit, but the bustling and talented Werder Bremen striker looked to be in top shape and shared the top scorers' prize with three goals, the last the equaliser in the final.

Luc Castaignos (Netherlands)
The joint-finals top scorer could have had more than the three goals he did end up with, hitting the woodwork against Turkey and in both the group game and final with Germany. His height, his pace, his strength and finishing ability marked him out as an outstanding striker and he was blessed by having as his suppliers his Feyenoord team-mate, right-winger Shabir Isoufi, and Arsenal playmaker Oguzhan Özyakup. Isoufi teed up his opener in the final while Özyakup set Castaignos up to rattle the post.
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Interesting list of Talents from this years tournament :smoking:

LindavG

05-21-2009, 12:49 AM

I've heard some stuff about Castaignos before, I think he's a really talented player :) I wonder what will have become of him in a couple of years time. Same goes for the other talents mentioned by the way, there's always some of them that make it to the top, I'm curious to see who it will be.

BavarianRed

05-30-2009, 01:50 AM

Captaincy for FCB two
Poldi saves German blushes in China

http://www.fcbayern.t-com.de/media/images/spieler_08_09/lahm/270/lahm_get_290509.jpg

Philipp Lahm captained a Germany side shorn of a host of first-choice players as the Euro 2008 runners-up narrowly averted an embarrassing defeat in the first friendly of their two-game tour of Asia. In a match played in front of a 25,000 crowd in Shanghai on Friday, coach Joachim Löw’s patched-up team drew 1-1 with China, ranked 97th in the world game.

Cologne-bound FCB man Lukas Podolski took his total for his country to 33 goals with an eighth-minute equaliser after Hao Junmin had opened for the home team three minutes earlier. Future Munich striker Mario Gomez’ goal drought on the international stage continued: the Stuttgart man has now gone 15 Germany games and 795 minutes without scoring.

Experienced Schweini

“It’s not a problem. I gave it my best shot, but it wasn’t to be. It’ll happen again soon,” said the 23-year-old, who finished third in the Bundesliga scoring charts last term with 24 goals. On Saturday, the Germany squad flies to Dubai, where they will attempt to round off the season in a little more style against the United Arab Emirates, like China hardly a power in the global game.

Lahm, who led out his national side for the first time in his 56th appearance, will hand the armband to Bastian Schweinsteiger for the Dubai clash. With 66 caps, Schweini rates as the most experienced player in the rump squad.

For the future

“Philipp and Bastian are key members of the team, and have taken on increasing responsibility of late. That’s why we’ve decided each will captain the side once on this tour,” Löw explained. Official skipper Michael Ballack and his deputy Miroslav Klose are both absent from the trip.

Both the Munich men selected for the armband this week have previous experience of captaining the three-time World Cup winners. Lahm took the armband from Leverkusen star Bernd Schneider in stoppage time at the end of a 2-1 victory over England on 22 August 2007. Schweinsteiger took over the duties from Klose during a 2-0 win against Belgium in Nuremberg on 20 August 2008.
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We drew 1-1 verse China with half of our squad out on duty, international friendlies, Cup games etc... we should of won this game because we had many chances but we just werent able to finish, Podolski's goal was well struck he should of had a couple of more but he was unlucky..
I don't get this reporter, even if Germany lost to China, how would that be an embarrassing lost? its only a damn friendly to prepare for the upcomming world cup qualifier game. Our defense was really bad because non of our key players were playing and it made our defense really weak so i excepted China to score eventually and they did it in the first 5 minutes..

BavarianRed

06-01-2009, 10:50 PM

Full steam ahead in the sauna

http://www.bundesliga.de/media/images/04_bildergalerien/dfb-team/nati_dubai_4.jpg

Temperatures of over 40 degrees centigrade notwithstanding, Joachim Löw is showing no mercy at the end of a hard season.

"I expect the players to mobilise all their strength once more. We'll have to give it everything we can", the Germany coach said ahead of Tuesday's game against United Arab Emirates in Dubai.

Hot encounter

Overcoming the extreme temperature and humidity may well prove to be he team's greatest challenge in the Al-Maktoum Stadium. Löw arranged for the final training session to start at 21:30 local time, in order to help the squad acclimatize to the conditions.

"The first thing that came into my head was, My God, how can you survive 90 minutes here", stand-in captain Bastian Schweinsteiger admitted, while Thomas Hitzlsperger said simply, "We'll have to deal with it. We've no choice."

In the wake of the dour 1-1 draw with China in Shanghai, the EURO 2008 runners-up are looking to end the season on a more inspiring note. Löw says the team will have to do "a lot of things better", under difficult conditions, to achieve the victory they aspire to.

Neuer between the posts

Schalke 04's Manuel Neuer will make his debut in goal for Germany against the hosts, who are currently ranked 120th in the world. "Despite his youth he has an air of maturity, on and off the pitch. He knows what he wants and he's ambitious", Löw said of the 23-year-old Royal Blues keeper.

There will also be starting slots for Heiko Westermann and Andreas Hinkel as the coach returns to a 4-4-2 formation, with Lukas Podolski set to join Mario Gomez up front. For all his scintillating form in the Bundesliga, Gomez has now gone 795 minutes without scoring for Germany, and cut a lonely figure up front in Shanghai.

Schweinsteiger good to go

Bastian Schweinsteiger is match-fit despite a slight calf problem and will resume the mantle of captain in the absence of Michael Ballack.

With training starting late to minimise the players' exposure to the heat, the squad were able to take part in a reception organised by the German FA (DFB) and the DFL Deutsche Fußball Liga GmbH on Monday.

Late kick-off

The match is scheduled to kick off at 10 in the evening, but even then the temperature is expected to be over 35 degrees.

Löw, who announced on Saturday that a change of strategy was in the offing for the remaining World Cup qualifiers, intends to bring on substitutes early, with Christian Träsch and Tobias Weis earmarked to make their first appearances for the national side alongside Neuer.

As for the 1-1 draw with China, "That's history. We have to do better in Dubai", according to Podolski, whose goal spared a weakened German side's blushes in Shanghai.

Line-up as expected:

Neuer - Hinkel, Friedrich, Westermann, Lahm - Schweinsteiger, Gentner, Hitzlsperger, Trochowski - Gomez, Podolski
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Tomorrow will be Neuer's first debut for Germany, I hope he keeps a clean tomorrow and gets off to a great for his first game for us ;) I just hope the players can handle theses kinds of tempartures because they say its suppose to be about 40 degrees when there playing :boo:
I can we will walk out with a nice 3-0 win tomorrow :smoking:

LindavG

06-01-2009, 11:00 PM

BavarianRed

06-01-2009, 11:25 PM

Finally we did it, we are ahead of Germany in the rankings, as it should be (JK ;) well, not really :lol:) :D

1 Spain 1761 0 32
2 Netherlands 1442 1 82
3 Germany 1418 -1 56
4 Italy 1292 1 21
5 Brazil 1288 -1 7
6 Argentina 1203 0 8
7 Croatia 1200 1 49
8 England 1195 -1 22
9 Russia 1167 0 50
10 France 1067 0 -7

I guess you lost a lot of points with that draw against China lol :p I would love for our NTs to play each other some time, why are there so few Netherlands - Germany encounters? :( They are always great fun to watch ;)

Rankings don't mean anything when it comes time for world cup games, does it? Even if Germany were ranked 100th place most countries would underestimate until they see that Germany isn't a team to take lightly.. ;) I really doubt germany takes these friendlies seriously as its just warm up games for the upcoming qualifier that we have in August. I dont know if you should be ahead or not, These Rankings are something so stupid that i dont even bother checking them, just look at what Turkey did in Euro 2008 and than tell me if Rankings mean a thing? ;)

I know we lost a lot of points due to the draw against China, but we had most of our players playing in cup games like The fa cup, DFB Pokal, and plus klose and a couple of other players chose to stay with bayern and play the friendlies they had instead of making the trip with the NT for the games against China and UAE.

You wonder why Netherlands-Germany never happen? because of what happened last time was a complete disaster as the fans behavior was so bad that it wasn't even a football match anymore, and plus the history between germany and netherlands is pretty bad so we probably wont face each other for a while unless a friendly is arranged by the coaches but i doubt it ;)

LindavG

06-01-2009, 11:37 PM

Yeah I know, I was just joking ;) I think most teams in the top 10 are pretty equal, anyone could beat anyone.. so it's an accurate ranking in that sense, but e.g. the USA is in 14th place (I think), now that's stupid :lol: But I was saying this because in the previous ranking we were only 3 points behind Germany and some people were saying: that's typical, always one step behind the Germans :p So I just had to post this :lol:

I doubt the coaches will want a Germany - Netherlands friendly, I don't think the game would be "friendly" either lol, but in a way that's a good thing because encounters like this are too special for "just" a friendly game imo :) But I'd like to face you in the final stages of the World Cup, that would be a great game for sure ;)

BavarianRed

06-02-2009, 09:19 PM

Gomez ends goal drought in style

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Mario Gomez has ended his goal drought in style, scoring four goals past hosts United Arabian Emirates as the German national team ended its season on a high.

The VfB Stuttgart striker, who will join FC Bayern München this summer, found the back of the net after 829 minutes (and 15 games) without a strike for Germany as the DFB team cruised to a 7-2 victory in Dubai.

First Gomez goal after 35 minutes

The win marked the end of the Asia tour and the end of the season for the German national team, four days after a 1-1 draw with China.

Gomez scored his first after 35 minutes in front of 7,000 fans in the Al Maktoum stadium and added three more in the added time of both halves and the 48th minute.

Westermann and Trochowski on target

Schalke's Heiko Westermann (29) and Hamburg's Piotr Trochowski (39) also found the back of the net for Germany, and Fares Juma put through his own net after 52 minutes.

The DFB team could have won by a higher margin, but Lukas Podolski (9), Bastian Schweinsteiger (66) - who captained Germany for the very first time -- and Trochowski (85) all hit the woodwork.

Ismail Salem (53) and Nawaf Mubarak (73) scored two consolation goals for the United Arabian Emirates.

Neuer debut

Goalkeeper Manuel Neuer won his first cap, while Tobias Weis and Christian Träsch also made their debut after the break.

Germany will play their first match of the new season against Azerbaijan in Baku on August 12th.
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What a game by Mario Gomez, he has ended his long wait for a goal for Germany after 829 minutes and 15 games :smoking:
Hopefully this will be a new start for Gomez and he will hopefully start scoring in the qualifying games ;)
Manuel Neuer played pretty well in net, he made a number of good saves and was solid throughout the whole game. He can only get better ever game :smoking: