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LopuZa
12-26-2004, 03:30 AM
<H2 ALIGN="CENTER">Yugoslavia "Big Four" Head-to-Head 1946-1991</H2>
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The Big Four, obviously consists of Crvena zvezda Beograd, Dinamo Zagreb, Hajduk Split, and Partizan Beograd (alphabetical sequence). Between 1946 and 1991, these clubs let go only five championship titles: Vojvodina (1966 and 1989), FK Sarajevo (1967 and 1985), and Zeljeznicar Sarajevo (1972). Crvena zvezda won record 19 titles, followed by Partizan with 11, Hajduk with 9, and Dinamo with 4. They also dominated Yugoslav Cup. Crvena zvezda won 13 cups, Hajduk 9, Dinamo 7, and Partizan 4.</p>

Here are head-to-head all time scores between these teams:
<PRE>
<B>Crvena zvezda</B> P W D L Gf-Ga Pts
vs Dinamo 90 32 28 30 120-115 92
vs Hajduk 92 32 25 35 125-128 89
vs Partizan 88 41 24 23 142-123 106
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total: 270 105 77 78 387-366 287

Dinamo P W D L Gf-Ga Pts
vs C. zvezda 90 30 28 32 115-120 92
vs Hajduk 90 33 26 31 123-121 92
vs Partizan 90 32 21 37 124-129 85
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total: 270 95 75 100 362-370 265

Hajduk P W D L Gf-Ga Pts
vs C. zvezda 92 35 25 32 128-125 95
vs Dinamo 90 31 26 33 121-123 88
vs Partizan 88 24 23 41 104-141 71
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total: 270 90 74 106 353-389 254

Partizan P W D L Gf-Ga Pts
vs C. zvezda 88 23 24 41 123-142 70
vs Dinamo 90 37 21 32 129-124 95
vs Hajduk 88 41 23 24 141-104 105
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total: 266 101 68 97 393-370 270


According to the above, here is the all time standings:

P W D L Gf-Ga Pts
1. Crvena zvezda 270 105 77 78 387-366 287
2. Partizan 266 101 68 97 393-370 270
3. Dinamo 270 95 75 100 362-370 265
4. Hajduk 270 90 74 106 353-389 254
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<p>They continued their sucesses even after Yugoslavia split. Hajduk and Dinamo (earlier HASK Gradjanski, today: Croatia) won all titles and all Croatian cups except one. Partizan and Crvena zvezda won all cups and allowed only one championship to Obilic since they started playing in Yugoslav League after 1991.</p>
<p>We can even go back further into history, before World War II. Hajduk won titles in 1927 and 1929. Crvena zvezda, although founded in 1945, continued tradition of SK Jugoslavija (same ground, several players continued their careers in Crvena zvezda...). SK Jugoslavija won titles in 1924 and 1925. Dinamo's story is special one as well. They (unofficially) merged from Gradjanski (champions in 1923, 1926, 1928, and 1937), Concordia (champions in 1930 and 1932), and HASK (champions in 1938). The only other big pre-war team was BSK Beograd, and its tradition was inherited by rather moderate OFK Beograd.</p>

FORZA_PIRLO
12-26-2004, 04:48 PM
wat bout red star belgrade

SERBO4LIFE
12-26-2004, 07:28 PM
Red Star is Crvena Zvezda in Serbian.

dejan

Natasa
12-27-2004, 03:18 PM
Red Star is the most famous, well known, most successfull Yugoslavian(Serbian) team of all times.

BTW, why was the Greatest Serbian thread closed?

Dado_Prso_09
12-27-2004, 06:15 PM
I say hajduk and crvena zvezda are the best two former yugoslavian teams

PrAvI HrVaT
12-28-2004, 01:46 PM
zvezda for sure for the serbs and prolly hajduk for us but it would be close.

LopuZa
12-28-2004, 06:08 PM
There is only one minor difference between the BIG four; Crvena Zvezda is the only club ex-Yugoslavia club to win the European and world club championships.

LopuZa
12-28-2004, 06:08 PM
<P>Crvena Zvezda may be the most schizophrenic club in the world. In Germany it is known as Roter Stern; in France as Etoile Rouge; in Spain as Estrella Roja; in Italy as Stella Rosa; in English, of course, <FONT SIZE=5>Red Star Belgrade</FONT>. Under whichever name, the 1991 European and world club champions stood revered as one of the pillars of the worldwide establishment, and the club is known as the "absolute king of the Yugoslav football"!</P><P ALIGN="CENTER"><IMG SRC="http://ww2.isys.ca/drazen/PRVACI%20EVROPE.JPG" WIDTH=415 HEIGHT=289></P>
<P ALIGN="CENTER">Team that won European Cup in 1991</P>
<P ALIGN="CENTER"><IMG SRC="http://ww2.isys.ca/drazen/zvezda1991-2001-mnp.jpg" WIDTH=300 HEIGHT=267></P>
<P ALIGN="CENTER">10 years later</P>
<P>Red Star was formally set up by students of Belgrade University after the war. Many members of the Red Star moved abroad, which become an on-going exodus of more than 40 players including stars like Dragan Dzajic, Dragan Stojkovic, Dejan Savicevic, Robert Prosinecki, Darko Pancev, etc. This explains why Red Star for all their talent boast only one victory in the European Cup (1991), and one runners-up spot in UEFA Cup (1979). </P>
<P ALIGN="CENTER"><IMG SRC="http://ww2.isys.ca/drazen/4.jpg" WIDTH=369 HEIGHT=265></P>
<P ALIGN="CENTER">Celebration in Bari '91</P>
<P ALIGN="CENTER">&nbsp;</P>
<P>Red Star belongs to the very cream of European major teams. It ranks 11<SUP>th</SUP> in the overall all time European placing. In the European Cup, Red Star is placed 8<SUP>th</SUP>. Eminent sports journal in ranking the European football teams, listed Red Star as the <A HREF="best.htm">best European team ever</A>. In half a century of playing, on national level, Red Star is unsurpassed. The Red Star won 22 championships and 19 national Cups, which is 70% of all titles won. This is the record that will be very hard to beat. Also, the Red Star won numerous <A HREF="tourname.htm">international tournaments</A>, and is always present at European Cup competitions. </P>
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<P>Red Star's fans are familiar with the greatness of Red Star, and for those who are not that familiar, I prepared an overview of the most important and fascinating facts there is about Red Star Football Club. Only after reviewing these facts, one can truly appreciate the greatness and importance of the Red Star in Yugoslav and European football. But Red Star Football Club is not the only team under this name. Red Star fields teams in 26 different sports with 6500 people employed which makes Red Star the biggest sport association in Yugoslavia and perhaps in the world. For comparison, Real has only two teams, while Barcelona fields teams in seven sports. Now, that's something! I'll prepare summary for all <A HREF="clubs.htm">Zvezda teams</A>. Also, visit Red Star Stadium; better known as <A HREF="marakana.htm">Marakana</A>, with a capacity of 56,000 (all seater stadium). </P><P><A HREF="http://www.oaza.co.yu/sport/delije">Delije</A>, Red Star famous supporters, can make some spectacular shows. Red Star's museum is the first museum of its kind in the world. It is not a trophy room, but real museum. It was opened in 1985, way before Barcelona and Ajax opened theirs. Enjoy!!! </P>
<P ALIGN="CENTER"><IMG SRC="http://ww2.isys.ca/drazen/museum.jpg" WIDTH=447 HEIGHT=276></P>
<P ALIGN="CENTER">Red Star's Museum</P>