France Football ranking - Absurd

[ForcaMadrid]

I think the ranking of France Football is abit absurd. I have nothing against Shevcenko winning, but how come Deco can be better than Ronaldinho, Henry or Zakorakis better than Adriano, etc

1) Shevchenko (Milan) 175

2) Deco (Barcelona) 139

3) Ronaldinho (Barcelona) 133

4) Thierry Henry (Arsenal) 80

5) Zagorakis (Bologna) 44

6) Adriano (Inter) 27

7) Nedved (Juventus) 23

8) Rooney (Man.Utd) 22

9) Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea) 18

10) Van Nistelrooy (Man.Utd) 18

11) Angelos Caristeas (Eerder) 15

12) Milan Baros (Liverpool) 11

13) Cristiano Ronaldo (Man.Utd) 11

14) Ibrahimovic (Juventus) 8

15) Etòo (Barcelona) 7

16) KakÃ* (Milan) 7

17) Dellas (Roma) 5

18) Buffon (Juventus) 5

19) Drogba (Chelsea) 5

20) Lampard (Chelsea) 5

21) Morientes (Real M.) 5

22) Figo (Real M.) 4

23) Zidane (Real M.) 3

24) Baraja (Valencia) 2

25) Giuly (Barcelona) 2

26) Maniche (Porto) 2

27) Nikopolidis (Olympiakos) 2

28) Maldini (Milan) 1

29) Vicente (Valencia) 1

[aguilas]

There is no way that Deco is better than Ronaldinho

[FORZA_PIRLO]

Deco is the biggest diver in the whole world of football

[PAO_HELLAS]

Ronaldinho was the best player of 2004 in Europe and the world.

[Hellise]

Considering that Deco contributed a lot for Porto's victory in the CL and for Portugal's second place in the Euro, yes, this rating is unfair.

Deco should have won the Ballon d'Or, and not Sheva.

Plus, is totally unfair that Deco isn't even nominated for Fifa's Best Player Award, but that's another story.

Platini: Deco Europe's Best (http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=36640&idSez=21)

[ForcaMadrid]

Considering that Deco contributed a lot for Porto's victory in the CL and for Portugal's second place in the Euro, yes, this rating is unfair.

Deco should have won the Ballon d'Or, and not Sheva.

Plus, is totally unfair that Deco isn't even nominated for Fifa's Best Player Award, but that's another story.

Platini: Deco Europe's Best (http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=36640&idSez=21)
I don't think it was just Deco who made Porto win. It was the whole team, the team spirit, and a very good coach.

[Hellise]

I don't think it was just Deco who made Porto win. It was the whole team, the team spirit, and a very good coach.

Of course! Porto isn't made of STARS, but is made of players that know how to play as a team. But Deco contributed a lot, he made the difference in numerous occasions. :)

[Hat_Trick_Playa]

deco is gay

[ItalianBoy]

Deco should have won it.

[aguilas]

Explain your logic...

[FORZA_PIRLO]

hat trick playa is right Deco is gay

[Esmeron]

Theres no way Deco is better than Ronaldinho, Nedved, or Henry. He's a good player but ruins it with his stupid diving.

[aguilas]

is he really that much of a diver?

[FORZA_PIRLO]

yup he is man in Euro 2004 my friends and I constantly made fun of him

[ItalianBoy]

Deco should have won it. He played very well last year and helped Porto and Portugal to accomplish more than Sheva did. Sheva and Deco play in diff. positions too so to say Sheva is better its not right. I think Dinho is better than Deco, but Deco accomplished so much last year.

These awards are flukes to me. I saw that Rooney is supposedly better than Maldini or others? Make me laugh.

[Hellise]

These awards are flukes to me..


It's the system working... :grumpy:

[albanian-fan]

It's the system working... :grumpy:

I don't know about the others but Shevcenko,is the right choice for nr one. If you know the way the ranking is made , you have national team coaches who have a vote each. I think since these guys have the skills to direct the national teams they are more experts than us , don't u think.

[FORZA_PIRLO]

Sheva won it thats it leave it. Leave the shoudlve crap aside Sheva won!

[ItalianBoy]

Maybe the system is work the wrong way at times. I just saw that Rooney got 64 votes for FIFA player of the year and Totti got none. This can be enough proof that just because some people are up there, means nothing at all.

[Leon of Silvren]

I think this awards are not to say who's better than who, I think this is like a prize for personal achievements during the period established. Saying who's better than who is only based in personal opinions, so it's pretty senceless to base an award on who's better.

[Leon of Silvren]

Maybe the system is work the wrong way at times. I just saw that Rooney got 64 votes for FIFA player of the year and Totti got none. This can be enough proof that just because some people are up there, means nothing at all.
Well Rooney had an amazing EC, what did Totti do this year??

[GiorgioII]

Well Rooney had an amazing EC, what did Totti do this year??

Rooney had a good EC. Apart from that he has proven to be a one trick pony. He has been so dissapointing this season from my perspective, both for England and Man.Utd. His frequent visits to brothels make me hate him even more. It is a disgrace that he even got 64 votes. He was even nominated for Britain's sport personality of the year ahead of countless other football and olympic heroes.

Totti, despite his spitting incident which was quite frankly disgusting has been an inspiration to Roma and their success last season was down mainly to him. 20 goals isn't bad in Serie A for a player who isn't even a striker. He is 64 times as good as Rooney, but Rooney collected 64 times as many votes.

The sad fact is that many of the panel are from countries like Samoa where the best football they see is Australian. They are ill informed and as much as I hate to say it, should be removed from the panel. The current rules declare that the captains and coaches for all national teams(male and female) can vote. This must be changed so that it is only the coaches of say the top 50 national teams in the world who can vote.

[Hellise]

I think since these guys have the skills to direct the national teams they are more experts than us , don't u think.

When I look at Scolari... No, I don't think he's an expert.

[valdanito_10]

i think these awqrds were fair°!


sheva carried the whole milan attck on his soulders!

its as fair as it gets!


the only absurd thing are the fifa ranking and the fifa world player of the year!



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[ItalianBoy]

Well Rooney had an amazing EC, what did Totti do this year?? hahaha He did? Well, if you like to hype players, I can see that, because Rooney had a regular EC. He scored 4 goals, all shots and some lucky too and thats it. He never dribbled anyone, nor created anything. Totti got suspended and did not play, so to give me that comparison is silly.

These awards state who has played better during the year. People have opinions but its obvious that many times they are dictated by other factors.

[Leon of Silvren]

You touched a good point there, the factors that can affect the votes, political or economical crap, but that's a different thread.....

And you don't see my point here, I think that these awards are given to those who had a good year, not to who's better -I think that that's the difference between this award and FIFA's- a clearer example, Zidane is far better than Deco, I think everyone agrees on that, but Deco guided Porto to the CL cup and Portugal to EC's final, while Zidane didn't accomplish anything with Madrid nor with France, that's why Deco takes the France Football award and Zidane the FIFA one, in an hypothetic case, of course.

[ForcaMadrid]

You touched a good point there, the factors that can affect the votes, political or economical crap, but that's a different thread.....

And you don't see my point here, I think that these awards are given to those who had a good year, not to who's better -I think that that's the difference between this award and FIFA's- a clearer example, Zidane is far better than Deco, I think everyone agrees on that, but Deco guided Porto to the CL cup and Portugal to EC's final, while Zidane didn't accomplish anything with Madrid nor with France, that's why Deco takes the France Football award and Zidane the FIFA one, in an hypothetic case, of course.
Leon, I agree with you, and that's why in my post i didn't say for example why Karagunis or some other players are rated higher than ZZ or Ronaldo, but how come e.g. they are rated higher than Adriano. Adriano had a superb year, not only he has played very well, but he drove Brazil to win the Libertadore cup. He is driving inter's attack and he is showing a lot of skills and scoring lots of goals too. I am sure you can pick up others like Adriano who deserve to be higher there.
Ronaldino pulled Barca from the middle of the table to second spot last year, and BARCA is doing great at the moment. Still I wouldn't argue so much becasue the difference in votes between him and Deco is very little. But if you see the difference between some others (like Adriano) than you will see what i mean.

[ItalianBoy]

You mean Copa America since the Copa Libertadores is the CL of South America. Not only that, but Adriano scored a crazy sick goal at the 92th!

Leon, I do see your point and you prove one of my points right. You say that the award goes to who had a good year, giving Deco as the example. Deco in real life took Porto to win the league, the CL and Portugal to the final. Sheva has won the Scudetto. 3-1 but yet! The Ballon d'Or goes to Sheva. Explain to me that one pls. :D :)

[Leon of Silvren]

I can't explain that mate! I'm not the one giving the awards.....but hey it could be worst, they could've give it to Dinho! :eek:

[ItalianBoy]

Well, Ronaldinho has for sure more skills than Sheva, but between the two, Sheva deserves it more.

[Leon of Silvren]

That's precisely my point. But I can't explain why Deco didn't get it.....

[kram]

For those of you that say that Italy fans should not whine when they feel that Italy is the victim of corrupt refs, I say this to you: Don't whine when your man is what you consider to be the victim of "inaccurate ranking".