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lallan
11-27-2004, 12:25 PM
im not saying that the galacticos of real have 2 hug every player on the pitch b4 the game starts but there should be some influence on the pitch on the other players, against betis when barca were down by 2, ronaldinho kept calling puyol(who made the blunder through which betis scored) and showing him the time & it saying they still have time and was encouraging every1!!! I never saw such acts from our galacticos when we r down, when they show them after real conceives a goal, every player looks here and there, some look down, some just walk away, where is the motivation on the pitch????? no wonder barca plays every game with so much passion and real just dont, only when they r winning they show the true spirit of the game, but they should do it while they r down also, the fans need it, the players need it...it doesnt have 2 be every galactico, but just 1 man can do the job, it does make a huge difference, but Zidane who is potentially the biggest galactico is known 2 be a shy player, not very expressive, the 1 galactico i noticed who tries 2 motivate others is roberto carlos but still not enough....

Balmung
11-27-2004, 04:52 PM
Come to think of it, Zidane's celebration upon goal is quite subdued, as if it is normal to him. (Who can blame him?)

But it would be funny seeing Zidane hugging people when the team is down.

Leon of Silvren
11-27-2004, 08:21 PM
LOL yeh is right, the personality of the Galacticos are way too different from Ronaldinho's, I mean, he's smiling all match long!!! even when he's called a foul or an offside!!! :eek:

If you get to know better the Galacticos (not by talking to them, but by watching interviews of course!) you'll see they're humble and shy people, ALL of them, even Becks. They don't tend to express their feelings, but that doesn't mean they don't play with passion.......nor that they don't motivate each other, I've saw Raul a couple of times trying to cheer his teamates, Carlos and Becks as well a couple of times. So I disagree with you on this one lallan.

lallan
11-27-2004, 10:56 PM
LOL yeh is right, the personality of the Galacticos are way too different from Ronaldinho's, I mean, he's smiling all match long!!! even when he's called a foul or an offside!!! :eek:

If you get to know better the Galacticos (not by talking to them, but by watching interviews of course!) you'll see they're humble and shy people, ALL of them, even Becks. They don't tend to express their feelings, but that doesn't mean they don't play with passion.......nor that they don't motivate each other, I've saw Raul a couple of times trying to cheer his teamates, Carlos and Becks as well a couple of times. So I disagree with you on this one lallan.

i didnt say they r not humble but u said it, they dont tend 2 express their feelings, and especially when they r down, there is definitely lack of motivation on the pitch, they do play with passion, especially figo, raul, becks, roberto carlos & selgado but eventhough im not saying they should smile all match long like ronaldinho but when they r down, they need a player 2 step up and encourage the whole team, it makes a huge difference in the mentality of the players......

hezri
11-28-2004, 02:16 AM
Those galacticos are called galacticos not because they are football stars . There are captain in their respective national team . They have great attitude for themselves . If u see their play , u cant question their commitment anymore . I dunno about u guys .

To me , I always dont care about the end result . I enjoy the process , the challenge , the failure of something . Dont u see the art of it ?

When they tried their best , and couldn't score goals , they understand the luck isnt there . Luck is very important . Bill Gates dont become millionaire Bill gates if he didn't have luck , no matter how much he tried . They understand this .

They also understand , the hardwork of opponent . When they didnt score goal , we should realize how the opponent's defeders really tried like hell to defend their goal . Those guys as well should get the credit . They respect teammates , they respect opponents . (Influenced by they had played in many teams and situations) . They know much it is hurt , if opponent over react after scoring goal . that's why Beckham becomes quite controlled after scoring goals nowadays comparing at Man U .

7becks7
11-28-2004, 11:10 AM
those guys have so much experience under their belts, and they all understand the importance of each games, therefore there shouldn't be any reason for anybody to physically or verbally motivate them

Leon of Silvren
11-29-2004, 05:41 AM
That's right, they're captains (or were) in their respective NT's, Zidane, Figo, Becks, Raul -and I think Samuel and Ronaldo too, but as 2nd or 3rd- they don't need any motivation, but I've seen Raul saying 'Vamos, vamos' a couple of times......

lallan
11-29-2004, 10:59 AM
That's right, they're captains (or were) in their respective NT's, Zidane, Figo, Becks, Raul -and I think Samuel and Ronaldo too, but as 2nd or 3rd- they don't need any motivation, but I've seen Raul saying 'Vamos, vamos' a couple of times......

still maybe the fact that Barca havent won anything 4 a while is making them play every game like a freaking final, the passion with which they play is uncomparable 2 any other team.

icy55
11-30-2004, 12:40 AM
whats the meaning of vamos

RaulMadrid7
11-30-2004, 03:12 AM
whats the meaning of vamos

The meaning of vamos means "come on lads get your arses together and start moving" in Irish, but in english it means "Go"

Leon of Silvren
11-30-2004, 03:42 AM
Actually in the context that we are talking this the irish translation comes closer than the english one.....

zenden9
11-30-2004, 06:02 AM
I think the only spirit that all Real player shall learn from Ronaldino is too smile all the time!

When tackle by opponent from behind,he get up and smile

When asking for yellow card disk out to opponent who tackle him,he smile

When making an offside,he smile

When firing a shot way out of target,he smile

when he complain to refeere,he smile

When scoring a own goal(I think he will also smile)

By acting like him,first-the player will not turn violent when agitate by opponent and in some way,heaping sarcasm on his opponent! :D

lallan
11-30-2004, 06:41 AM
I think the only spirit that all Real player shall learn from Ronaldino is too smile all the time!

When tackle by opponent from behind,he get up and smile

When asking for yellow card disk out to opponent who tackle him,he smile

When making an offside,he smile

When firing a shot way out of target,he smile

when he complain to refeere,he smile

When scoring a own goal(I think he will also smile)

By acting like him,first-the player will not turn violent when agitate by opponent and in some way,heaping sarcasm on his opponent! :D

if u 4get his smiling and take from him and his teammates the passion, it will be more than enough 4 Real, u just dont see much passion when Real play, and as I said only when they r winning they show it, Barca shows it even while they r down!!!!!!!!! That makes a huge difference

raul#7
11-30-2004, 10:18 AM
yeah we lack a player who encourages everyone and also who can bully the players. we are lacking a player who's attitude is great. we r lacking a roy keane.

zenden9
11-30-2004, 04:52 PM
A Peter schmeichel or Alex Ferguson will be even better! They will F**K u up when u make mistake until u want to cry! :cry:

icy55
12-01-2004, 12:00 AM
whooo.. at least real madrid's coach does not use much vulgar words on their players when they make a small mistake.. there was once when i saw jose mourinho calling his player "F***ing idiots"

javster
12-01-2004, 08:28 PM
Real players do have spirit, lots of it! The difference is that RohnaldiƱo doesn't have the weight of the world on his shoulder like the Real players do. They are expected to win all the time, they are heavily criticized when they don't.

hezri
12-02-2004, 12:15 AM
That's true . Players like Zidane and Beckham who will play despite suffering injury not because they are worthy but to ensure the team remains in title races . Zidane for many times wanted himself to be blamed for team's underperforming , to reduce pressure put on other galacticos and young players . Whenever many one including the Blatter condemn Beck , Raul took the risk of backing Beck . Have u seen how hard Figo works on the field , how hard he worked during some games in EURO , but C.Ronaldo got the hero title .

I believe , no matter what we do we must have empathy . Empathy means putting ourselves in other's situation , it's hard and impossible except for some . Simpathy is just not enough .

Leon of Silvren
12-02-2004, 11:12 PM
I think that the main problem here is that people don't understand the passion of the Galacticos, I mean Barca player's passion is easily viewable, but Galacticos are a lot more mature, they know that they have to play well and win, they don't need anyone to tell them this.

Once you get the Galacticos' mentality you'll understand their passion as well. For the ones that say they don't play with passion let me tell you something: you are watching too much TV.

lallan
12-03-2004, 09:37 PM
I think that the main problem here is that people don't understand the passion of the Galacticos, I mean Barca player's passion is easily viewable, but Galacticos are a lot more mature, they know that they have to play well and win, they don't need anyone to tell them this.

Once you get the Galacticos' mentality you'll understand their passion as well. For the ones that say they don't play with passion let me tell you something: you are watching too much TV.

it has nothing 2 do with watching 2 much tv or not, no matter how mature a player gets, he needs 2 show some motivation 4 other team members on the pitch when the team is down(the key word in this discussion), thats why barca in so many games were down 1-0 but within the 1st half they already score 2 goals and go ahead b4 halftime!!!!!!!!!! but when real is down, they hardly managed 2 draw!!!!!!!!!!! its like they give up a bit fast.....

Leon of Silvren
12-03-2004, 10:06 PM
Yeh I understand your point, but my point is that they don't need motivation, being a Real player is something different, lots of players had said that before.....'as soon as you wear the white shirt you know that you have to win, there's no other option while playing here' that was a line of a Madrid player, don't remember which one.

They know that they have to win, nobody has to told them or remind them that, that's why I think they don't need anyone to be there for them, supporting them, or in this case cheering them.

lallan
12-04-2004, 06:31 AM
Yeh I understand your point, but my point is that they don't need motivation, being a Real player is something different, lots of players had said that before.....'as soon as you wear the white shirt you know that you have to win, there's no other option while playing here' that was a line of a Madrid player, don't remember which one.

They know that they have to win, nobody has to told them or remind them that, that's why I think they don't need anyone to be there for them, supporting them, or in this case cheering them.

well this year its the same case with Barca, they havent won in a while and they r desperate 2 win something, thats why they play each game like a final.....

Leon of Silvren
12-04-2004, 07:13 AM
But they don't have as much pressure as Madrid. With the 'best' team in the world and not win anything in 2 years?? How that sounds?? :dead: