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xonic
08-10-2004, 04:26 AM
For those of you who like to surf the net for wierd stuff, heres a link for you, this guy claims to be from the year 2036 and that the army sent him back through time to 1977 to collect an IBM 5100.

Here are the links (this makes for a pretty good read if you have some time to kill):

www.johntitor.com

johntitor.strategicbrains.com

Enjoy!

GiorgioII
08-10-2004, 01:51 PM
Wow Xonic, this is amazing. Very interesting and also slightly scary. :shocked:

Lance Knight
08-10-2004, 02:41 PM
cool. but time travel would not allow for someome to travel back in time as he would be torn apart. it is possible so sent a small object but not for a person. for this to be true he would need to be going faster than light and be generating enough energy to open the rip. Also he would need some kind of healling ability or is a very lucky man, as the statistics shows that he has a chance of a 1 in 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 chance of surival

xonic
08-10-2004, 02:56 PM
cool. but time travel would not allow for someome to travel back in time as he would be torn apart. it is possible so sent a small object but not for a person. for this to be true he would need to be going faster than light and be generating enough energy to open the rip. Also he would need some kind of healling ability or is a very lucky man, as the statistics shows that he has a chance of a 1 in 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 chance of surival

Heheh, I dunno, it may be possible, it may be impossible.. but it was interesting to read dontcha think? :D

mel81x
08-10-2004, 04:22 PM
quite interesting literature i must say and it quite cleverly worded to make it seem real. but what i dont get is when he said that the individual can make small changes in his/her worldline, how that would affect a civil war from arising? or how can Y2K be an issue in the future if he is from 2032 then the Y2K issue doesnt even come into play unless hes from 10K lol

Mind numbing gear turning reading.


MEL

Lance Knight
08-10-2004, 05:03 PM
well the next apocalypse was said to be in 2000 but there was a miscalculation it is in 2012, some time in May

GiorgioII
08-10-2004, 06:14 PM
well the next apocalypse was said to be in 2000 but there was a miscalculation it is in 2012, some time in May

Well if he is from 2036 then how can the next apocolypse be in 2012??

The scariest quote was, 'I am not angry, I only feel sadness that you cannot see what I see.'

Lance Knight
08-10-2004, 08:59 PM
well then they stopped the apocalypse. there a many apocalypses to come u know. and each time a champion will arise to stop it. Also a apocalypse doesnt mean the earth is destroyed or that all human life becomes extinct. The damage cause by an apocalypse varies in strenght.
and also if the champion fails then we are in serious trouble

xonic
08-11-2004, 03:18 PM
quite interesting literature i must say and it quite cleverly worded to make it seem real. but what i dont get is when he said that the individual can make small changes in his/her worldline, how that would affect a civil war from arising? or how can Y2K be an issue in the future if he is from 2032 then the Y2K issue doesnt even come into play unless hes from 10K lol

Mind numbing gear turning reading.


MEL

The bug he was talking about is actually documented, in 2038 the unix time() function screws up because it can't turnover (all 32 bits that are being used to hold the value of the current time on December 31st, 2037 @ 12:59:59 will be used up, then it's back to the stoneage for them).

lsgworldl
08-13-2004, 10:35 PM
I am that champion, your all screwed :burglar:

well then they stopped the apocalypse. there a many apocalypses to come u know. and each time a champion will arise to stop it. Also a apocalypse doesnt mean the earth is destroyed or that all human life becomes extinct. The damage cause by an apocalypse varies in strenght.
and also if the champion fails then we are in serious trouble

devious
08-14-2004, 02:23 AM
wOw!! you just let your imagination flewwwww!! :D :ronaldo:
guys.. I have started the Aliens thread.. I have a mother ***.ken big imagination here :D BUT just stop it.. there is nothing ca;;ed time travel.. cause simply if there is such a thing.. that means manythings:
1.no one will die!!!
2.we could see the all prophets if we want!!!
3.we will lost in the time.. means: there wouldn`t be past, present and future!!
there are many other things could happen.. but simply it won`t .. cause there is no such a thing..
yes we walked on the moon and we can talk from a long distances with pushing a one switch... but we can`t travel in time..
One other thing.. in my religon.. we belive that time is GOD.. and no one controls the GOD.
Our God is Allah.. he rules our world and many worlds and the only thing that in comment in these all wolds is the time..
so.. who controls the time controls the world and the other worlds.. and that`s impossible.. ,and I mean impossibe, ONLY GOD CREATED AND ONLY GOD CONTROLS.

Gennadios
08-15-2004, 01:08 PM
btw theres no such thing as time really....

Slavenik
08-15-2004, 01:28 PM
Dont be so short sighted. I liked his sentence where he said: What i'm doing now is the same as if in 1940 i was sent back to 1900 and tell everyone that one day people can travel with plains and actually fly. Back then eeryone would probably think i'm crazy but 10 years afterwards the first steps were made and the human started his adventures up on the sky

This is so true. We do not know where will we stand 20/30 years from today. Being aware is being ready.

Slavenik
08-15-2004, 01:45 PM
And this is something quite interesting. Its about the 1969, ht emoon landing. Some nice pictures and contradictions in here. The title of the article is Was The Apollo Moon Landing In 1969 Faked?


http://www.alien-ufos.com/govmilapollohoax.shtml

All of you have a nice read

GiorgioII
08-15-2004, 06:06 PM
Hmmmmmmmmm an interesting read :rolling:

I like Conspiracy theories. I spent a whole hour a few nights ago looking some up on the internet. If anyone wants to talk about any other conspiracy theories then I'm ready for you :smoking:

devious
08-15-2004, 10:41 PM
Hmmmmmmmmm an interesting read :rolling:

I like Conspiracy theories. I spent a whole hour a few nights ago looking some up on the internet. If anyone wants to talk about any other conspiracy theories then I'm ready for you :smoking:
LooL..This man can read what in MY mind :D
Did you watch X-files ?
but don`t waste your time thinking in things like:
1.Time traveling.. there are only one point you have to think about before you say anything about it.. it`s an example
Imagine there is someone called giorgio and his dady.ok? ;)
giorgio have a 30 years old by now and his father has told him that someday he had a unusual event! he told him that one day when giorgio was 9 years old some one have knocked on the door.. and giorgio`s father has opened the door.. he found a man WHO IS JUST LOOKS LIKE GIORGIO WHEN HE IS 30 YEARS OLD .. this man (giorgio 30`s look alike) said to giorgio`s father that he has been sent form the year 2004 and he was on a mission and he was just passing by and wanted to see his father!! then giorgio`s father told him:" sorry sir but I`m afraid that I can`t help you, I LIVE HERE WITH MY OWN 9 YEARS OLD SON and I don`t know who is your father?"... the n the future guy said" don`t you know me" Giorgio`s father:"I`m afraid I don`t,sir" the future guy:"It`s me giorgio.. you son.. oh I missed you dady!!!!" Ofcpourse giorgio`s father has shocked :shocked: .. he closed the door and called the police saying there a crazy man on my door HEEEELP!! and the police came and there is no sign for that man, he disapeared just like that! :threeeyes.
And then after father have finished the story to his 30 years old son giorgio.. he found his son laughing at him!! :ronaldo
the father asked:"why you are laughing son??", giorgio:"father, Ihave a secret that I have to tell you.. I`m working in a secret governement project named as TIME MACHIMNE theyt was trying it on me :( and for my good luck it worked.. and I saw you when you are younger.. And I saw myself when I was 9 years old."
{AND MY POINT IS}:-
the father said after awhile from listened to his son`s story:"HMMMMMMMMMM.. NOW IT MAKES SENSE"

I hope you have got the points I want you to understand form this short story.. If there is a Time machine.. then every one who will rid it and go back in time he must have been seen before.. cause you can`t change something that realy happened.. that`s Impossible, and why it`s Impossible?.. because if It is impossible ... you can rid the time machine and go back and kill christopher columbus and then back to your time and found no America, this is just rediculs!! time machime is an Illusion.. not even a SCIENCE Fiction.. only a fiction!!
And the other thing that no one have seen anybody that came from the future ofcourse.. and I can`t that man who talk to the public through the net telling them he is from the future!! GIVE ME A BREAK! Is he scared to show his face or something!! he would be a king if he just show his ass and telling every body that he is from the future and telling us one prove any prove! like what will happen tomorrow!! or telling us why he is back in time realy???? didn`t he like the chicks form the future, so he got his ass back and see real 2000`s chicks!! :silly: :ronaldo:
I belive that everything happens in this universe only happens for some reason, and everything have been created in this universe have been created for a reason. I mean if someday you came to me saying that you have seen a dimon I wont say WOW :shocked:..no!.. I will say why a Ghoust has appeared only for you? and form here the SCIENCE FICTION begans..
It`s like: why we want to walk on the moon??
and I think you can find some answers for this question on the previous link.

2. the Aliens existance.. cause they are exist.. and if you realy want to know why they didn`t contact us and be just friends :D you just ask me then. ;)
Giorgio.. you have been thinking a one houre every day in these things.. but I was thinking 12 hours a day for nearly 7 years in this things.. I can tell that I`ve read everything bout all that stuff.. and I have discovered many logical answers that can make SENSE for many of this conspiracies ;)

GiorgioII
08-16-2004, 11:00 AM
OK devious. Go and read about 9/11. Read that the Bush family and the Bin Laden family have been friends for 20 years. Read that America ignored at least 10 warnings telling them that there was going to be a terrorist attack. On the day of 9/11 Bush had Bin Laden's brother in the White House with him :eek:

Give me a logical answer to that man :)

xonic
08-16-2004, 12:05 PM
You're views of time are linear, we know that time exists as a dimension above the third dimension (the 4th)..

so where you say that we can't go back in time and kill our parents, or meet ourselves, because we'd alter OUR timeline:

--O---------------------------------------[TIME MACHINE]-------------

O = Somewhere in the past, meeting ourselves or killing our parents to alter OUR timeline..


current temporal theory says that time itself, as a dimension, is non linear, which means we are in one timeline, with an infinite number of other timelines parallel to us, someof which are almost identical to ours except for certain historical differences (for example in another timeline, Sep 11th may have been Aug 12th), what the theory predicts is that if are on OUR timeline, and we travel to the past, we go to the past of a DIFFERENT timeline, that is ALMOST like our own.

so

-------------------------------------------[TIME MACHINE]-------------

---O-------------------------------------------------------------------

the time machine jumps timelines (dimensions) and eventually, goes to the past, does whatever it has to do in a sufficiently similar timeline and then goes back to it's own timeline.

More or less... I'm sure I got some points wrong, but that's the main jist of 'What we know about time travel' so far..

Lance Knight
08-16-2004, 02:48 PM
OK u all have seen terminator 1,2 and 3 rigth.
-ok in 1 if the robot wasnt send back to kill the mother, the guy who saved her wouldnt have come back and impregantating her.
-in 3 if they didnt decide to save the girls father or try to stop skynet they wouldnt hav made it to the bomb shelter.

this is a perfect eg of time. everything in time is already accounted for. if some travelled back in time last week from today he would alredy be accounted for and be aprat of the past. now if someone goes back in time and he left today to go back 30 years and kills his parents he would be earsed and wopuld actually kill his parents. when he left today he would be earsed from time forever and u can say really that he is dead. he would have never made it back cause time anticpated that he would kill his parents and so he was earsed

Slavenik
08-16-2004, 04:00 PM
Who wants to discuss area 51?

In order to discuss the time machine thing, you got to have some sort of scientific knowledge. I remember Einsteins theory, but at the end he said, even if this time whole existed, the circumstances will be very dificult, and the human would not be able to survive the journey.

So i find area 51 discussion very more atractive, wgere you do not need to have any scientific knowledge and where you wont hit the walls so often ;)

Lance Knight
08-16-2004, 04:50 PM
well we should probably start a new thread

Lance Knight
08-16-2004, 05:32 PM
well we should probably start a new threadEvery yhing else us just a hobby priest :)

Lance Knight
08-16-2004, 05:40 PM
I am garfield the new kidd in dis forums lets talk shit
'Football is de best sport in de world' i agree that anything else is just a hobbie

Greek Succer
08-16-2004, 06:26 PM
Priest,

Put the pipe down please.

devious
08-16-2004, 11:16 PM
Gothic.. calm down man :ronaldo:
Slavenik, you are 100% right, we must have a scientific knowlege... but in the end we will just discusse right? the men that have this huge knowlege didn`t figures out many of this things ;)
Giorgio my friend.. For your pretty luck I know the all story of the 9/11 accident.. I know who did it and why?? ofcourse you will think I`m kidding! no realy, my uncle is working in the Egyption , and he HAVE A FREIND IN THE FBI (AMERICAN) and someday in the last summer we was setting on the beach.. they was discussing the ALL STORY I was just like this :shocked: .. (the real one ;) )!!! do you want to know?? :D ;)
Area 51.. Interesting!! HERE IS THE LINK http://www.aliensthetruth.com/
I think most of you KNOW IT, but some didn`t! the most interesting site on the net.. the discuss everything :)
I will discuss why Aliens don`t contact us and won`t do it?
And the 9/11 accident.. when I have more time.. cause it will take sometime you know!

GiorgioII
08-17-2004, 09:54 AM
Area 51 is weird man...............

Devious, please tell us about 9/11 when you have the time. I would love to know. It's a subject that fascinates me and I know about all of the conspiracy theories. When you have time to talk please tell us.

Gennadios
08-17-2004, 10:37 AM
Priest,

Put the pipe down please.

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Slavenik
08-17-2004, 11:59 PM
I'd also like to hear about the 9/11.

As for Area 51, there are many interesting things to discuss.

Firstly why would the American government deny that the area exists, when ther are 100000000 satelites, Russian, Chinese, Korean, Arabic... Its too stupid. There are many photos took from satelites. Certanly there is something behind the lake. And lots of signs like warnings, permited tresspassing...

A place like the described area 51 is realy needed for those experiments and testings, with new hi-tech and stuff. What do you think about the whole thing, before we jump into sites with pictures and texts?

lsgworldl
08-18-2004, 12:28 AM
AC Millian suxs

GiorgioII
08-18-2004, 10:30 AM
I'd also like to hear about the 9/11.

As for Area 51, there are many interesting things to discuss.

Firstly why would the American government deny that the area exists, when ther are 100000000 satelites, Russian, Chinese, Korean, Arabic... Its too stupid. There are many photos took from satelites. Certanly there is something behind the lake. And lots of signs like warnings, permited tresspassing...

A place like the described area 51 is realy needed for those experiments and testings, with new hi-tech and stuff. What do you think about the whole thing, before we jump into sites with pictures and texts?

Well, whatever the American government are doing there it's obvioulsy very important and top secret. UFO research?Or perhaps they're creating some sort of super nuclear weapon.....who knows.

Lance Knight
08-18-2004, 03:58 PM
That was my stupid cousin. he got my password and opened my account
i hav to heave a little talk with him

Garfield
08-24-2004, 01:26 AM
[QUOTE=gothic priest]I am garfield the new kidd in dis forums lets talk shit
woops sorry priest!i forgot 2 sign in :cry: :rolleyes:

Garfield
08-24-2004, 04:58 PM
Well, whatever the American government are doing there it's obvioulsy very important and top secret. UFO research?Or perhaps they're creating some sort of super nuclear weapon.....who knows.
:stop:
The Americans are tring to take over the world or they are preparing for WWIII. :boo:
The people want to know about the Roswell crash and the dissapearance of some Fighter jets that dissapared over the Bermuda Triangle. :question:
Are they such things as alliens? :question: Do they come in peace?
I want to know!!
please if any one knows contact me on this web site!

devious
08-24-2004, 09:10 PM
area51 is just the mirror that USA made it to make the all world look into it... it`s the mirror that reflects our illusion! area51 was thier trick to fool the all world... the big secret is not in this small building that the satalites of the all world have spoted! and the prove is THE USA GOVERNEMET ARE DENING IT! do you think they that that fool!! do you think that they are stuped!!? I don`t think so.. that`s the point guys! that was thier stratiegy to fool the world.. when they are denying the area51 is = they are telling the all world look to the area51!! (REMEMBER THIS POINT CAUSE I WILL BE BACK TO THIS POINT HERE WHEN I WILL TALK ABOUT THE 9/11 ACCIDENT!) wake up.. area51 is an empty building.. may be it was full of this crap that you can imagine (maybe!?) but now i doubt, I belive that this area is already empty now and we are like the rate still searching for the cheeze in the same place that some one have told us it full of cheeze!!!
the place you are searching for is (under) somewhere in the nevada desert. they won`t mke the same mistake and build a SECRET building on the ground.. right? ;)

Slavenik
08-26-2004, 01:33 PM
You have a point there.

And its not just Nevada, there are lots of underground buildings and tunnels all arround the west coast.

Anyway, heres something interesting. It has to do with time traveling

Time Can be Turned Back
03/01/2004 15:37
Time has been one of the most complicated and less studied scientific issues since ancient times
Eight years ago, American and British scientists who conducted investigations in Antarctica made a sensational discovery. US physicist Mariann McLein told the researchers noticed some spinning gray fog in the sky over the pole on January 27 which they believed to be just ordinary sandstorm. However, the gray fog did not change the form and did not move in the course of time. The researchers decided to investigate the phenomenon and launched a weather balloon with equipment capable to register the wind speed, the temperature and the air moisture. But the weather balloon soared upwards and immediately disappeared.

In a little while, the researchers brought the weather balloon back to the ground with the help of a rope attached to it before. They were extremely surprised to see that a chronometer set in the weather balloon displayed the date of January 27, 1965, the same day 30 years ago. The experiment was repeated several times after the researchers found out the equipment was in good repair. But each time the watch was back it displayed the past time. The phenomenon was called "the time gate" and was reported to the White House.

Today investigation of the unusual phenomenon is underway. It is supposed that the whirl crater above the South Pole is a tunnel allowing to penetrate into other times. What is more, programs on launching people to other times have been started. The CIA and the FBI are fighting for gaining control over the project that may change the course of history. It is not clear when the US federal authorities will approve the experiment.

Famous Russian scientist Nikolay Kozyrev conducted an experiment to prove that moving from the future to the past was possible. He substantiated his views with the hypotheses on instant information spreading through physical characteristics of time. Nikolay Kozyrev even supposed that "time could execute the work and produce energy." An American physics theorist has arrived at a conclusion that time is what existed before existence of the world.

It is known that each of us feels a different course of time under different conditions. Once lightning hit a mountain-climber; later the man told he saw the lightning got into his arm, slowly moved along it, separated the skin from the tissues and carbonized his cells. He felt as if there were quills of thousands hedgehogs under his skin.

Russian investigator of anomalous phenomena, philosopher and author of numerous books Gennady Belimov published his article under the headline "Time Machine: First Speed On" in the newspaper On the Verge of Impossible. He described unique experiments conducted by a group of enthusiasts led by Vadim Chernobrov, the man who began creation of time machines, devices with electromagnetic pumping in 1987. Today the group of enthusiasts can slow down or speed up the course of time using special impact of the magnetic field. The biggest slowing down of time made up 1.5 seconds within an hour of the equipment's operation in labs.

In August 2001, a new model of the time machine meant for a human was set in a remote forest in Russia's Volgograd Region. When the machine even operated on car batteries and had low capacity, it still managed to change the time by three per cent; the change was registered with symmetrical crystal oscillators.

At first, the researchers spent five, ten and twenty minutes in the operating machine; the longest stay lasted for half an hour. Vadim Chernobrov said that the people felt as if they moved to a different world; they felt life here and "there" at the same time as if some space was unfolding. "I cannot define the unusual feelings that we experienced at such moments."

Neither TV nor radio companies reported the astonishing fact; Gennady Belimov says the Russian president was not informed of the experiment. However, he tells that already under Stalin there was a Research Institute of the Parallel World. Results of experiments conducted by Academicians Kurchatov and Ioffe can be now found in the archives. In 1952, head of the Soviet secret police organization Lavrenty Beria initiated a case against researchers participating in the experiments, as a result of which 18 professors were executed by shooting and 59 candidates and doctors of physical sciences were sent to camps. The Institute recommenced its activity under Khruschev. But an experimental stand with eight leading researchers disappeared in 1961, and buildings close to the one where experiments were conducted were ruined. After that, the Communist Party political bureau and the Council of Ministers decided to suspend researchers of the Institute for an uncertain period.

The program was resumed in 1987 when the Institute already functioned on the territory of the Soviet Union. A tragedy occurred on August 30, 1989: an extremely strong explosion sounded at the Institute's branch office on the Anjou islands. The explosion destroyed not only the experimental module of 780 tons but also the archipelago itself that covered the area of 2 square kilometers. According to one of the versions of the tragedy, the module with three experimenters collided with a large object, probably an asteroid, in the parallel world or heading toward the parallel world. Having lost its propulsion system, the module probably remained in the parallel world.

The last record made in the framework of the experiment and kept at the Institute archives says: "We are dying but keep on conducting the experiment. It is very dark here; we see all objects become double, our hands and legs are transparent, we can see veins and bones through the skin. The oxygen supply will be enough for 43 hours, the life support system is seriously damaged. Our best regards to the families and friends!" Then the transmission suddenly stopped.

Ronniestillgood
08-26-2004, 02:51 PM
You have a point there.

And its not just Nevada, there are lots of underground buildings and tunnels all arround the west coast.

Anyway, heres something interesting. It has to do with time traveling

Time Can be Turned Back
03/01/2004 15:37
Time has been one of the most complicated and less studied scientific issues since ancient times
Eight years ago, American and British scientists who conducted investigations in Antarctica made a sensational discovery. US physicist Mariann McLein told the researchers noticed some spinning gray fog in the sky over the pole on January 27 which they believed to be just ordinary sandstorm. However, the gray fog did not change the form and did not move in the course of time. The researchers decided to investigate the phenomenon and launched a weather balloon with equipment capable to register the wind speed, the temperature and the air moisture. But the weather balloon soared upwards and immediately disappeared.

In a little while, the researchers brought the weather balloon back to the ground with the help of a rope attached to it before. They were extremely surprised to see that a chronometer set in the weather balloon displayed the date of January 27, 1965, the same day 30 years ago. The experiment was repeated several times after the researchers found out the equipment was in good repair. But each time the watch was back it displayed the past time. The phenomenon was called "the time gate" and was reported to the White House.

Today investigation of the unusual phenomenon is underway. It is supposed that the whirl crater above the South Pole is a tunnel allowing to penetrate into other times. What is more, programs on launching people to other times have been started. The CIA and the FBI are fighting for gaining control over the project that may change the course of history. It is not clear when the US federal authorities will approve the experiment.

Famous Russian scientist Nikolay Kozyrev conducted an experiment to prove that moving from the future to the past was possible. He substantiated his views with the hypotheses on instant information spreading through physical characteristics of time. Nikolay Kozyrev even supposed that "time could execute the work and produce energy." An American physics theorist has arrived at a conclusion that time is what existed before existence of the world.

It is known that each of us feels a different course of time under different conditions. Once lightning hit a mountain-climber; later the man told he saw the lightning got into his arm, slowly moved along it, separated the skin from the tissues and carbonized his cells. He felt as if there were quills of thousands hedgehogs under his skin.

Russian investigator of anomalous phenomena, philosopher and author of numerous books Gennady Belimov published his article under the headline "Time Machine: First Speed On" in the newspaper On the Verge of Impossible. He described unique experiments conducted by a group of enthusiasts led by Vadim Chernobrov, the man who began creation of time machines, devices with electromagnetic pumping in 1987. Today the group of enthusiasts can slow down or speed up the course of time using special impact of the magnetic field. The biggest slowing down of time made up 1.5 seconds within an hour of the equipment's operation in labs.

In August 2001, a new model of the time machine meant for a human was set in a remote forest in Russia's Volgograd Region. When the machine even operated on car batteries and had low capacity, it still managed to change the time by three per cent; the change was registered with symmetrical crystal oscillators.

At first, the researchers spent five, ten and twenty minutes in the operating machine; the longest stay lasted for half an hour. Vadim Chernobrov said that the people felt as if they moved to a different world; they felt life here and "there" at the same time as if some space was unfolding. "I cannot define the unusual feelings that we experienced at such moments."

Neither TV nor radio companies reported the astonishing fact; Gennady Belimov says the Russian president was not informed of the experiment. However, he tells that already under Stalin there was a Research Institute of the Parallel World. Results of experiments conducted by Academicians Kurchatov and Ioffe can be now found in the archives. In 1952, head of the Soviet secret police organization Lavrenty Beria initiated a case against researchers participating in the experiments, as a result of which 18 professors were executed by shooting and 59 candidates and doctors of physical sciences were sent to camps. The Institute recommenced its activity under Khruschev. But an experimental stand with eight leading researchers disappeared in 1961, and buildings close to the one where experiments were conducted were ruined. After that, the Communist Party political bureau and the Council of Ministers decided to suspend researchers of the Institute for an uncertain period.

The program was resumed in 1987 when the Institute already functioned on the territory of the Soviet Union. A tragedy occurred on August 30, 1989: an extremely strong explosion sounded at the Institute's branch office on the Anjou islands. The explosion destroyed not only the experimental module of 780 tons but also the archipelago itself that covered the area of 2 square kilometers. According to one of the versions of the tragedy, the module with three experimenters collided with a large object, probably an asteroid, in the parallel world or heading toward the parallel world. Having lost its propulsion system, the module probably remained in the parallel world.

The last record made in the framework of the experiment and kept at the Institute archives says: "We are dying but keep on conducting the experiment. It is very dark here; we see all objects become double, our hands and legs are transparent, we can see veins and bones through the skin. The oxygen supply will be enough for 43 hours, the life support system is seriously damaged. Our best regards to the families and friends!" Then the transmission suddenly stopped.

were did you find this stuff?

Slavenik
08-26-2004, 04:39 PM
http://english.pravda.ru/

Its a russian site translated to english. Some interesting stuff.

Katerina
08-26-2004, 05:36 PM
Parallel Universes

Everything you're about to read here seems impossible and insane, beyond science fiction. Yet it's all true.

Scientists now believe there may really be a parallel universe - in fact, there may be an infinite number of parallel universes, and we just happen to live in one of them. These other universes contain space, time and strange forms of exotic matter. Some of them may even contain you, in a slightly different form. Astonishingly, scientists believe that these parallel universes exist less than one millimetre away from us. In fact, our gravity is just a weak signal leaking out of another universe into ours.

The same but different

For years parallel universes were a staple of the Twilight Zone. Science fiction writers loved to speculate on the possible other universes which might exist. In one, they said, Elvis Presley might still be alive or in another the British Empire might still be going strong. Serious scientists dismissed all this speculation as absurd. But now it seems the speculation wasn't absurd enough. Parallel universes really do exist and they are much stranger than even the science fiction writers dared to imagine.

Greater dimensions

It all started when superstring theory, hyperspace and dark matter made physicists realise that the three dimensions we thought described the Universe weren't enough. There are actually 11 dimensions. By the time they had finished they'd come to the conclusion that our Universe is just one bubble among an infinite number of membranous bubbles which ripple as they wobble through the eleventh dimension.

A creative touch

Now imagine what might happen if two such bubble universes touched. Neil Turok from Cambridge, Burt Ovrut from the University of Pennsylvania and Paul Steinhardt from Princeton believe that has happened. The result? A very big bang indeed and a new universe was born - our Universe. The idea has shocked the scientific community; it turns the conventional Big Bang theory on its head. It may well be that the Big Bang wasn't really the beginning of everything after all. Time and space all existed before it. In fact Big Bangs may happen all the time.

Of course this extraordinary story about the origin of our Universe has one alarming implication. If a collision started our Universe, could it happen again? Anything is possible in this extra-dimensional cosmos. Perhaps out there in space there is another universe heading directly towards us - it may only be a matter of time before we collide.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2001/paralleluni.shtml


Transcript: http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2001/parallelunitrans.shtml

More here: http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/quantum/quantum.jsp?id=22994400

Slavenik
08-26-2004, 08:41 PM
Defenetly a nice read.

After all, havent anyone of you ever asked yourselfs, what there after the last cm of the telescope view, in our infinite darkness, why do we think that we are the only inteligent creatures. Who knows whats there far away from us...

Garfield
08-27-2004, 01:18 AM
You have a point there.

And its not just Nevada, there are lots of underground buildings and tunnels all arround the west coast.

Anyway, heres something interesting. It has to do with time traveling

Time Can be Turned Back
03/01/2004 15:37
Time has been one of the most complicated and less studied scientific issues since ancient times
Eight years ago, American and British scientists who conducted investigations in Antarctica made a sensational discovery. US physicist Mariann McLein told the researchers noticed some spinning gray fog in the sky over the pole on January 27 which they believed to be just ordinary sandstorm. However, the gray fog did not change the form and did not move in the course of time. The researchers decided to investigate the phenomenon and launched a weather balloon with equipment capable to register the wind speed, the temperature and the air moisture. But the weather balloon soared upwards and immediately disappeared.

In a little while, the researchers brought the weather balloon back to the ground with the help of a rope attached to it before. They were extremely surprised to see that a chronometer set in the weather balloon displayed the date of January 27, 1965, the same day 30 years ago. The experiment was repeated several times after the researchers found out the equipment was in good repair. But each time the watch was back it displayed the past time. The phenomenon was called "the time gate" and was reported to the White House.

Today investigation of the unusual phenomenon is underway. It is supposed that the whirl crater above the South Pole is a tunnel allowing to penetrate into other times. What is more, programs on launching people to other times have been started. The CIA and the FBI are fighting for gaining control over the project that may change the course of history. It is not clear when the US federal authorities will approve the experiment.

Famous Russian scientist Nikolay Kozyrev conducted an experiment to prove that moving from the future to the past was possible. He substantiated his views with the hypotheses on instant information spreading through physical characteristics of time. Nikolay Kozyrev even supposed that "time could execute the work and produce energy." An American physics theorist has arrived at a conclusion that time is what existed before existence of the world.

It is known that each of us feels a different course of time under different conditions. Once lightning hit a mountain-climber; later the man told he saw the lightning got into his arm, slowly moved along it, separated the skin from the tissues and carbonized his cells. He felt as if there were quills of thousands hedgehogs under his skin.

Russian investigator of anomalous phenomena, philosopher and author of numerous books Gennady Belimov published his article under the headline "Time Machine: First Speed On" in the newspaper On the Verge of Impossible. He described unique experiments conducted by a group of enthusiasts led by Vadim Chernobrov, the man who began creation of time machines, devices with electromagnetic pumping in 1987. Today the group of enthusiasts can slow down or speed up the course of time using special impact of the magnetic field. The biggest slowing down of time made up 1.5 seconds within an hour of the equipment's operation in labs.

In August 2001, a new model of the time machine meant for a human was set in a remote forest in Russia's Volgograd Region. When the machine even operated on car batteries and had low capacity, it still managed to change the time by three per cent; the change was registered with symmetrical crystal oscillators.

At first, the researchers spent five, ten and twenty minutes in the operating machine; the longest stay lasted for half an hour. Vadim Chernobrov said that the people felt as if they moved to a different world; they felt life here and "there" at the same time as if some space was unfolding. "I cannot define the unusual feelings that we experienced at such moments."

Neither TV nor radio companies reported the astonishing fact; Gennady Belimov says the Russian president was not informed of the experiment. However, he tells that already under Stalin there was a Research Institute of the Parallel World. Results of experiments conducted by Academicians Kurchatov and Ioffe can be now found in the archives. In 1952, head of the Soviet secret police organization Lavrenty Beria initiated a case against researchers participating in the experiments, as a result of which 18 professors were executed by shooting and 59 candidates and doctors of physical sciences were sent to camps. The Institute recommenced its activity under Khruschev. But an experimental stand with eight leading researchers disappeared in 1961, and buildings close to the one where experiments were conducted were ruined. After that, the Communist Party political bureau and the Council of Ministers decided to suspend researchers of the Institute for an uncertain period.

The program was resumed in 1987 when the Institute already functioned on the territory of the Soviet Union. A tragedy occurred on August 30, 1989: an extremely strong explosion sounded at the Institute's branch office on the Anjou islands. The explosion destroyed not only the experimental module of 780 tons but also the archipelago itself that covered the area of 2 square kilometers. According to one of the versions of the tragedy, the module with three experimenters collided with a large object, probably an asteroid, in the parallel world or heading toward the parallel world. Having lost its propulsion system, the module probably remained in the parallel world.

The last record made in the framework of the experiment and kept at the Institute archives says: "We are dying but keep on conducting the experiment. It is very dark here; we see all objects become double, our hands and legs are transparent, we can see veins and bones through the skin. The oxygen supply will be enough for 43 hours, the life support system is seriously damaged. Our best regards to the families and friends!" Then the transmission suddenly stopped.

How did you get this information? :question: :question: :question: :question: :question: :question:

Gennadios
08-27-2004, 01:53 AM
You have a point there.

And its not just Nevada, there are lots of underground buildings and tunnels all arround the west coast.

Anyway, heres something interesting. It has to do with time traveling

Time Can be Turned Back
03/01/2004 15:37
Time has been one of the most complicated and less studied scientific issues since ancient times
Eight years ago, American and British scientists who conducted investigations in Antarctica made a sensational discovery. US physicist Mariann McLein told the researchers noticed some spinning gray fog in the sky over the pole on January 27 which they believed to be just ordinary sandstorm. However, the gray fog did not change the form and did not move in the course of time. The researchers decided to investigate the phenomenon and launched a weather balloon with equipment capable to register the wind speed, the temperature and the air moisture. But the weather balloon soared upwards and immediately disappeared.

In a little while, the researchers brought the weather balloon back to the ground with the help of a rope attached to it before. They were extremely surprised to see that a chronometer set in the weather balloon displayed the date of January 27, 1965, the same day 30 years ago. The experiment was repeated several times after the researchers found out the equipment was in good repair. But each time the watch was back it displayed the past time. The phenomenon was called "the time gate" and was reported to the White House.

Today investigation of the unusual phenomenon is underway. It is supposed that the whirl crater above the South Pole is a tunnel allowing to penetrate into other times. What is more, programs on launching people to other times have been started. The CIA and the FBI are fighting for gaining control over the project that may change the course of history. It is not clear when the US federal authorities will approve the experiment.

Famous Russian scientist Nikolay Kozyrev conducted an experiment to prove that moving from the future to the past was possible. He substantiated his views with the hypotheses on instant information spreading through physical characteristics of time. Nikolay Kozyrev even supposed that "time could execute the work and produce energy." An American physics theorist has arrived at a conclusion that time is what existed before existence of the world.

It is known that each of us feels a different course of time under different conditions. Once lightning hit a mountain-climber; later the man told he saw the lightning got into his arm, slowly moved along it, separated the skin from the tissues and carbonized his cells. He felt as if there were quills of thousands hedgehogs under his skin.

Russian investigator of anomalous phenomena, philosopher and author of numerous books Gennady Belimov published his article under the headline "Time Machine: First Speed On" in the newspaper On the Verge of Impossible. He described unique experiments conducted by a group of enthusiasts led by Vadim Chernobrov, the man who began creation of time machines, devices with electromagnetic pumping in 1987. Today the group of enthusiasts can slow down or speed up the course of time using special impact of the magnetic field. The biggest slowing down of time made up 1.5 seconds within an hour of the equipment's operation in labs.

In August 2001, a new model of the time machine meant for a human was set in a remote forest in Russia's Volgograd Region. When the machine even operated on car batteries and had low capacity, it still managed to change the time by three per cent; the change was registered with symmetrical crystal oscillators.

At first, the researchers spent five, ten and twenty minutes in the operating machine; the longest stay lasted for half an hour. Vadim Chernobrov said that the people felt as if they moved to a different world; they felt life here and "there" at the same time as if some space was unfolding. "I cannot define the unusual feelings that we experienced at such moments."

Neither TV nor radio companies reported the astonishing fact; Gennady Belimov says the Russian president was not informed of the experiment. However, he tells that already under Stalin there was a Research Institute of the Parallel World. Results of experiments conducted by Academicians Kurchatov and Ioffe can be now found in the archives. In 1952, head of the Soviet secret police organization Lavrenty Beria initiated a case against researchers participating in the experiments, as a result of which 18 professors were executed by shooting and 59 candidates and doctors of physical sciences were sent to camps. The Institute recommenced its activity under Khruschev. But an experimental stand with eight leading researchers disappeared in 1961, and buildings close to the one where experiments were conducted were ruined. After that, the Communist Party political bureau and the Council of Ministers decided to suspend researchers of the Institute for an uncertain period.

The program was resumed in 1987 when the Institute already functioned on the territory of the Soviet Union. A tragedy occurred on August 30, 1989: an extremely strong explosion sounded at the Institute's branch office on the Anjou islands. The explosion destroyed not only the experimental module of 780 tons but also the archipelago itself that covered the area of 2 square kilometers. According to one of the versions of the tragedy, the module with three experimenters collided with a large object, probably an asteroid, in the parallel world or heading toward the parallel world. Having lost its propulsion system, the module probably remained in the parallel world.

The last record made in the framework of the experiment and kept at the Institute archives says: "We are dying but keep on conducting the experiment. It is very dark here; we see all objects become double, our hands and legs are transparent, we can see veins and bones through the skin. The oxygen supply will be enough for 43 hours, the life support system is seriously damaged. Our best regards to the families and friends!" Then the transmission suddenly stopped.


U said something slavenik?

Slavenik
08-27-2004, 02:14 AM
Find out yourself :evil: