View Full Version : Debate on Iraq !
milto
07-12-2004, 08:35 AM
:star: Salute our heroes and our fallen! check it out (http://www.thememoryhole.us)
lsgworldl
07-25-2004, 05:45 PM
:star: Salute our heroes and our fallen! check it out (http://www.thememoryhole.us)
what happens if you are not American but from another country like me, who is from England?
RegginaAmaranto
07-25-2004, 10:40 PM
ha! fallen hero's my arse! THEY invade a nation and kill its women and children. they take men into prison, rape them and soddomise them. and you claim them to be your "hero's"
if you spell the word MURDERER as HERO, then yes, your right!
i tell ya right now, Sudan has been a problem for many many years! people havnt just been dying recently, they have been dying for decades. but saving a people isnt enough for america! they have to be in it for the money!
your towers fell, your economy went into recesion. Saddam Hussain was a threat to no one but perhaps Iran and Kuwait! it wasnt your problem was it????
It was as much your problem as Sudan was your problem. but you needed to money to booste your economy!!!
who cares if kids wont ever grow up to be men?
who cares if men lose their respect by getting raped in prison by red neck americans..... as long as your dollar gets a much needed booste!!!!!
thankyou america. thanking you for fücking another people. your good at it. keep up the good work!
kitkat5
07-25-2004, 11:49 PM
why does it have to be about politics or frickin border lines?? why cant you just be human enough to think that someone lost a brother, father, husband or son, and let them rest in peace!!
RegginaAmaranto
07-26-2004, 05:32 AM
why does it have to be about politics or frickin border lines?? why cant you just be human enough to think that someone lost a brother, father, husband or son, and let them rest in peace!!
just like the Iraqi kids rest in peaces? or in pieces? do they get to decide? no, the soldiers decide for them.
EASports
07-26-2004, 12:52 PM
The real loosers are America
What there doing is breeding another generation of arabic (or any other
denomination for that matter) fighters. What happens in 2 - 5 yrs time
in Iraq ?. Yanks impose there will there ?. Open up another Macdonalds or
perhaps get some heavy coporate american Giant to open up a sweatshop
making sporting shoes or t-shirts ?
The president , the mentality, the arrogance.
Only until the young soldier gets into battle does he ask "what the hell
am I/are we doing here" ?.
They should go home......& they should live.
Ese_Guy
07-26-2004, 11:50 PM
May God bless our troops and their families.
Josef
07-27-2004, 09:17 PM
Everyone who bags on America can shove it! Whoever brought up the topic of Sudan is a complete idiot. First of all, Sudan doesn't conflict with American intrest nor does Sudan have a radical warlord with the ability of Balistic missile capability. Another reason is that the United States doesn't have the military size to fight Iraq and Sudan. Yes America has a great military but if your looking for numbers, go to China. And another thing--at least America had the balls to stick their head out and fight for something. The United States should have finished off the BATH party's dictatorship thirteen years ago when Iraq decided to invade Kuwait.
Who ever said the only reason we fought was to protect our relations with Iran and Kuwait-you're partly correct. Your wrong in that the United States has relations with Iran because the Iranian government hates the US because the US trained Iraqi soldgers to fight them in the early 80's. Yes, part of the reason the US went over there was to again protect Kuwait-DUH--THEY ARE ALLIES WITH THE US YOU DUMBASSES. I don't see why you say the US is stealing oil--because Saddam is gone now, and a weak Democratic Government now controls the economy(with help from the US), the US can now buy a gallon of oil for 2 cents(You can even look it up at the GN on msn.com).
Why the hell is everyone taking it out on the US-hell there are Japanese forces and british and many other nations who have sent forces to Iraq. And if every nation despises the US why the hell did the UN let the US invade. Shit-every nation in the UN voted and it passed.
Explain that to me? I am very intrested to hear your answers.
mel81x
07-27-2004, 10:05 PM
First of all, Sudan doesn't conflict with American intrest nor does Sudan have a radical warlord with the ability of Balistic missile capability. Another reason is that the United States doesn't have the military size to fight Iraq and Sudan. Yes America has a great military but if your looking for numbers, go to China. And another thing--at least America had the balls to stick their head out and fight for something. The United States should have finished off the BATH party's dictatorship thirteen years ago when Iraq decided to invade Kuwait.
Why bother with military size when u have technology in ur backpocket? i mean there was so much bombing and massive gunfire in the overthrowing of the washed up Saddam Hussein I think it was moot to have that many ppl in the war. Secondly, they never proved that Saddam did haev WOMD and they still havent proven it. Pseudo War/Pseudo Case. I understand ppl supporting their troops and all but hey its a war about a man whos doing what his daddy couldnt do thirteen years ago as u so put. and why didnt the US put him away when they should have? And why hasnt the real threat been caught? Mr OBL. I mean he did the whole sept thing but hes still roaming around making himself shown once in a while, instead ull have wasted millions of dollars and gone to fight a war with a country that has been a trouble in the past but hasnt really done anything serious lately.
Who ever said the only reason we fought was to protect our relations with Iran and Kuwait-you're partly correct. Your wrong in that the United States has relations with Iran because the Iranian government hates the US because the US trained Iraqi soldgers to fight them in the early 80's. Yes, part of the reason the US went over there was to again protect Kuwait-DUH--THEY ARE ALLIES WITH THE US YOU DUMBASSES. I don't see why you say the US is stealing oil--because Saddam is gone now, and a weak Democratic Government now controls the economy(with help from the US), the US can now buy a gallon of oil for 2 cents(You can even look it up at the GN on msn.com).
Why the hell is everyone taking it out on the US-hell there are Japanese forces and british and many other nations who have sent forces to Iraq.
Well its not really stealing oil, but lets face it when the war was on the oil prices around here in the US were unbelievable i mean they just kept going up. and ur trying tell us all taht its not about the oil???? i mean u can read all the facts u want. ... when u go to buy the oil do u really see that 2cents making its way to the gas station? As for the US having relations with iran, im going to say that ur right there. the us has no reason to side with iran other than to take iraq out lol but we all know how that story started so i wont touch that topic.
And if every nation despises the US why the hell did the UN let the US invade. Shit-every nation in the UN voted and it passed.
Explain that to me? I am very intrested to hear your answers.
As for the United Nations. ..... now thats a governing body that i feel makes rules for the rest of the world and when it comes time to taking a stance against the US it just backs off lol and lets the US do what it wants. If the UN had any say in this matter then they would have taken time to investigate the matter more and yes they went to iraq and tried to have weapons inspectors and they failed but at the same time there was no conclusive evidence to state that SH had WOMD. Instead, they stepped aside and let a brash man take the problem thrown to him at hand (9/11) and pawn it off on a washed up dictator who imo should have been put away when they had the chance. Its not about hating the ppl its about hating the choice that the ppl had to go to war to fulfill a president's need to rectify his fathers mistake and take his knowledge of the oil business and use his presidency to further it.
I always feel sry for the ppl that die in war when its wrong and the ppl in the 9/11 disaster definitely have not been taken care off in the fact that OBL is still running large.
You want to win an election Mr. Bush and still be liked... bring that man to the ppl.
Cheers
MEL
Josef
07-27-2004, 10:51 PM
UN subject: If the nations in the UN say the US can invade and those same nations tell us NO in there own individual voice, well what is it. The US will take the most credible voice-the UN.
The US can easily prove that Saddam had the use of WOMD. The US may have not found the weapons put Everyone saw him gas the KURDS on TV when the US troops left in 91'. Expeditionary forces found mass graves containing bodies full of SAREN GAS and everything else I can't spell. Even the troops we captured are saying he did it. And if the bodies arn't proof enough we can easily convict him of war crimes-now that you can't argue about.
I don't care about Bush and his fathers wars. All that matters is that the US has overthrown a deranged dictator and is now trying to build a democracy. Its working too.
Josef
07-27-2004, 10:55 PM
Adding on: The US and Allied nations may have the greatest technology in the world and can bomb Iraq from thousands of miles away but you can't win a war unless you have troops on the ground. Its a proven fact.
Josef
07-27-2004, 11:01 PM
1941: Germany conducts massive bombing sorrties over England practically destroying everything. London-literally destroyed; Dover-Eliminated. Germany could have bombed all they want but they never would have taken England unless they put troops on the ground--They failed to and in the end were defeated. You could say the same about the Allies bombing German held territory. The Allies never would have won if Overlord never took place.
mel81x
07-27-2004, 11:01 PM
And if the bodies arn't proof enough we can easily convict him of war crimes-now that you can't argue about.
why didnt ull? that would have made more sense and all the hate would have disappated quickly
RegginaAmaranto
07-28-2004, 01:43 AM
get a grip on reality. Iraq was never a threat to america. it was all talk.
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