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InTeR_FaNaTiC
07-09-2004, 02:57 PM
Yesterday in Mancini's press confrence they asked if Vieri was going to becomes the captain ?
What the heck is up with that ?? why would he get it ? I like Vieri and all, but that shouldn't happen. And if it happens in order to persuade him to stay with us, one can only think "Well... It's Moratti's club!!"

Slavenik
07-09-2004, 03:03 PM
Every year its touted that Vieri will be the capitan, but still Javier has that position.

GiorgioII
07-09-2004, 04:05 PM
No way will Javier have the captain's armband taken from him. Mancini understands that Javier is a symbol of this club and the chaos that would ensue if he gave the armband to Vieri.
Some may say that Javier isn't vocal enough, but he is the most consistent player, the longest serving player and the most respected player. As far as I understand he is worshiped by the other players at Inter. He will remain if Mancini has any sense.
If they give the armband to Vieri to make him stay that is the worse decision ever. I would rather Vieri was sold than Javier losing the captaincy. :fed-up:

zenden9
07-09-2004, 05:03 PM
Janetti is definitely the most loyal player of Inter.I remember during one time Real Madrid offer a lot of money to Inter for Janetti and a vast pay for him,he immediately reject the offer sayin. he is very happy with his life at Inter and will remain loyal to Inter! It will be sad for him to lose the captain armband,

GiorgioII
07-09-2004, 05:10 PM
Janetti is definitely the most loyal player of Inter.I remember during one time Real Madrid offer a lot of money to Inter for Janetti and a vast pay for him,he immediately reject the offer sayin. he is very happy with his life at Inter and will remain loyal to Inter! It will be sad for him to lose the captain armband,

Don't say it 'will be sad' cos it's not going to happen!!!

stefan99
07-09-2004, 10:38 PM
I doudt this will happen. JZ will stay the captain unless the players want vieri as the captain which I doudt.

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-10-2004, 05:21 AM
Well i could care less about who is captain or not cause i give a shit about the players performances. Fighting over captain is ridiculus.

nismo
07-10-2004, 12:03 PM
You do know captaincy is looked upon for leadership??? Anyone who thinks captain's armband isn't siginificant doesn't know much about football. The captain unites the lads in the dressing room and is the team's ambassador and spokesperson.
I hope Vieri isn't captain, he's not suited to that role, whinges and mopes too many times on the field. JZ should stay as captain for as long as he's here.

adrianofan
07-10-2004, 04:37 PM
Javier Zanetti has been an interista since 1995... there is no way you can take away the captain's armband from a man who has served his club for nine years and has been loyal to Inter through the good and definately the bad. At least not until he is past his prime and can no longer hold a first-team place in the club but even though Javier is going on 31, this guy plays like hes in his early to mid twenties. He is one of the most fit players on the team. (who else in Inter can say they have 34 league appearances?)

He's a bit too nice for a captain and doesn't give crap to his players enough (Pagliuca when he was captain in Inter for awhile was a good example of how a captain is supposed to get his troops in order) but he is a locker room inspiration, puts more heart out there on the field than anyone and has over 350+ apps for the black and blue putting him in the top 10 for "the most present nerazzurris of all-time." Taking that band off Javier would be almost as bad as AC Milan taking the band off Maldini.

I'm not taking anything away with Christian Vieri's contributions to the club but he certaintly can't compare to anybody who would turn down a European Juggernaut like Real Madrid just so that they can remain with Inter.

devious
07-10-2004, 06:00 PM
I think this was a rumor!! I can`t Imagine any one can took the captain's armband from Javier!! Cause simply.. he is Inter`s captain untill he go or die!
And i don`t believe that Vieri is just remaining there in silence.. like he is pleased to hear something like that!! if this news is true, I hope that Vieri refuse to take the armband!!

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-10-2004, 09:55 PM
. The captain unites the lads in the dressing room and is the team's ambassador and


Aye stupid. and if he was that vocal in the dressing room how come i don't see it in every game of Inter's when he plays?

nismo
07-11-2004, 01:53 PM
. The captain unites the lads in the dressing room and is the team's ambassador and


Aye stupid. and if he was that vocal in the dressing room how come i don't see it in every game of Inter's when he plays?
You're the one who's stupid. No shit you don't see it in the game because the cameras don't go into the dressing rooms :rolleyes: Every captain have their own way of exerting their influence over the team, some like to shout, some like to lead by example. There's also the cultural context to be taken into account, such as in England it's the one who displays the most passion, the best player, or is a club symbol, whereas in Italy it's usually the one who's served the longest or bandiera. If you don't know the value and importance of captaincy then it's obvious you've never played team sport in your life :rolleyes:

adrianofan
07-11-2004, 02:24 PM
speaking of England, a good example of why captaincy is important: DAVID BECKHAM... Because England had such a horrible captain, they lost to Portugal and had an early exit. If Beckham worried more about motivating his troops than showing off his tattoes and new haircut, then England would finally win something. They should give the strap to someone else, anybody else on that squad.

zenden9
07-11-2004, 03:56 PM
speaking of England, a good example of why captaincy is important: DAVID BECKHAM... Because England had such a horrible captain, they lost to Portugal and had an early exit. If Beckham worried more about motivating his troops than showing off his tattoes and new haircut, then England would finally win something. They should give the strap to someone else, anybody else on that squad.

Micheal Owen!

Pazza
07-11-2004, 04:03 PM
Becks is the worse captain ever for England! :silly:

Btw, I think its just a question came up from nowhere about Vieri being a captain, and the Q was apparently given to Veron, wasnnit? Vieri obviously not the best choice for captaincy. I give either JZ or Canna. :smoking:

Sebastian
07-11-2004, 04:39 PM
...the only thing that VIERI can do is take a HIKE...:rolleyes:...:silly:...there's no way that he can taka away the HONORABLE CAPITANO title from JAVIER....that's crap....he cant score a damn goal and he'll be a captain???.....that's hilarious....:sick:....ZANETTI is the world's best right back....a player that other teams dream of and who dreams of VIERI?????
....:rolleyes:.........

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-11-2004, 10:19 PM
You're the one who's stupid. No shit you don't see it in the game because the cameras don't go into the dressing rooms :rolleyes: Every captain have their own way of exerting their influence over the team, some like to shout, some like to lead by example. There's also the cultural context to be taken into account, such as in England it's the one who displays the most passion, the best player, or is a club symbol, whereas in Italy it's usually the one who's served the longest or bandiera. If you don't know the value and importance of captaincy then it's obvious you've never played team sport in your life :rolleyes:



Aye, i guess ou are the only one wo has a secret camera taping Inter's dressing room right? That is pure bullshit. Do you have any proof over that besides of what "you think?"

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-11-2004, 10:22 PM
...the only thing that VIERI can do is take a HIKE...:rolleyes:...:silly:...there's no way that he can taka away the HONORABLE CAPITANO title from JAVIER....that's crap....he cant score a damn goal and he'll be a captain???.....that's hilarious....:sick:....ZANETTI is the world's best right back....a player that other teams dream of and who dreams of VIERI?????
....:rolleyes:.........


Apparently idiots like you elcino have only watched vieri in the last 6 months. have you tried watching him in Wc 98 and 2002?

chu_chu
07-11-2004, 10:38 PM
Apparently idiots like you elcino have only watched vieri in the last 6 months. have you try watching him in Wc 98 and 2002?

and will he return into vieri 98 and 2002? you'll never know buddy

damn... having vieri as a captain... i guess inter are getting serious each day.... maybe he can win us a relegation spot... j/k ^^

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-11-2004, 11:06 PM
Ha, Let me remind all of you Vieri SIngle handedly Pulled Inter out of Relegation when Javieri Zanetti was playing all of his games at Inter.

nismo
07-12-2004, 10:31 AM
Aye, i guess ou are the only one wo has a secret camera taping Inter's dressing room right? That is pure bullshit. Do you have any proof over that besides of what "you think?"
Go back to what you orginally ask me. " if he was that vocal in the dressing room how come i don't see it in every game of Inter's when he plays?"
Who said I know what goes on inside the Inter dressing room?? Can you please point out where I said that?? All I said was the captain carriers a lot of responsible to handle matters within the team and dressing room, rounding up the lads is one of them. You wouldn't need to have a secret camera, maybe for the stupid :rolleyes: it's called sporting psyche kind of like a war. There's a lot of testerone flying around and players are understandbly charged up, the captain's role is important for leadership. Do you think the players go inside and have a cup of tea during break?? Anyways I wouldn't expect you to understand because from your posts I can already tell you've never played the sport or any kind of team sport, you're just one of those arm-chair critics.

nismo
07-12-2004, 10:34 AM
Ha, Let me remind all of you Vieri SIngle handedly Pulled Inter out of Relegation when Javieri Zanetti was playing all of his games at Inter.
Errr for Vieri to "singlehandedly" pull us out of relegation wouldn't that mean Inter had to be in a relegation dogfight in the first place :rolleyes: such as the bottom 4 places?? What utter crap. Even when Vieri was out injured for long spells we were no where remotely near relegation. Get your facts straight.

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-12-2004, 11:33 AM
Go back to what you orginally ask me. " if he was that vocal in the dressing room how come i don't see it in every game of Inter's when he plays?"
Who said I know what goes on inside the Inter dressing room?? Can you please point out where I said that?? All I said was the captain carriers a lot of responsible to handle matters within the team and dressing room, rounding up the lads is one of them. You wouldn't need to have a secret camera, maybe for the stupid :rolleyes: it's called sporting psyche kind of like a war. There's a lot of testerone flying around and players are understandbly charged up, the captain's role is important for leadership. Do you think the players go inside and have a cup of tea during break?? Anyways I wouldn't expect you to understand because from your posts I can already tell you've never played the sport or any kind of team sport, you're just one of those arm-chair critics.



More specifically you wrote in your post is that you have no proof what so ever, so i guess this points to the fact that you are wrong and also points to the fact that you are a deluded monkey, Congratulations.

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-12-2004, 11:36 AM
Errr for Vieri to "singlehandedly" pull us out of relegation wouldn't that mean Inter had to be in a relegation dogfight in the first place :rolleyes: such as the bottom 4 places?? What utter crap. Even when Vieri was out injured for long spells we were no where remotely near relegation. Get your facts straight.



Right stupid, let me rephrase the sentence for you since you haven't been watching Inter's games or else you would have corrected me on this one. "vieri single handedly took inter away from the relegation zone into a UEFA cup when nearly Inter was almost at bottom midtables in the league before January". So keep that mouth shut dingo!

nismo
07-12-2004, 12:11 PM
More specifically you wrote in your post is that you have no proof what so ever, so i guess this points to the fact that you are wrong and also points to the fact that you are a deluded monkey, Congratulations.
What proof are you on about?? Asking me for proof about the what's really happening in the changing rooms is like me asking you to prove which hand Vieri wipes his ass with. What's your point? That's not even the big picture :rolleyes: It doesn't prove shit. All I said was the captain's prescence is important on the pitch and in the change rooms. How the captain goes about doing that is another matter. You said captaincy isn't important, so instead you trying to ask me something so irrelevant and meaningless like video footage of what the players are talking about in the changing, why don't you try proving yourself with how "ridiculous" the captaincy role is, cause' I'm sure as hell yet to see you defend yourself.

nismo
07-12-2004, 12:16 PM
Right stupid, let me rephrase the sentence for you since you haven't been watching Inter's games or else you would have corrected me on this one. "vieri single handedly took inter away from the relegation zone into a UEFA cup when nearly Inter was almost at bottom midtables in the league before January". So keep that mouth shut dingo!
Hmmm, you had to rephrase your post, which now changes the context of what we were talking about, man I wonder which one of us is really stupid:rolleyes: I'm just going by what you said buddy, don't blame me for your poor english skiils. For Vieri to save us from relegation would mean we were involved in a relegation dogfight amongst the bottom four teams, which we were obviously not. Notice there's a difference between midtable and relegation zone??? Is that clear?

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-12-2004, 12:21 PM
What proof are you on about?? Asking me for proof about the what's really happening in the changing rooms is like me asking you to prove which hand Vieri wipes his ass with. What's your point? That's not even the big picture :rolleyes: It doesn't prove shit. All I said was the captain's prescence is important on the pitch and in the change rooms. How the captain goes about doing that is another matter. You said captaincy isn't important, so instead you trying to ask me something so irrelevant and meaningless like video footage of what the players are talking about in the changing, why don't you try proving yourself with how "ridiculous" the captaincy role is, cause' I'm sure as hell yet to see you defend yourself.



See nismo this is just a good example of what a pointless idiot you are. Did i say captaincy wasn't important? i said i don't care , and quite frankly neither does Mancini! so stop picking meaningless arguements you deluded monkey.

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-12-2004, 12:24 PM
Hmmm, you had to rephrase your post, which now changes the context of what we were talking about, man I wonder which one of us is really stupid:rolleyes: I'm just going by what you said buddy, don't blame me for your poor english skiils. For Vieri to save us from relegation would mean we were involved in a relegation dogfight amongst the bottom four teams, which we were obviously not. Notice there's a difference between midtable and relegation zone??? Is that clear?



no nismo, you were being a nobend because you obviously didn't understand when i said "Vieri had to pull Inter out of relegation" when i was specifically speaking that they were halfway near their only to have Super Bobo pull Inter away. Sorry if i wasn't specific enough Mr. Serie A expert.

nismo
07-12-2004, 12:37 PM
See nismo this is just a good example of what a pointless idiot you are. Did i say captaincy wasn't important? i said i don't care about , and quite frankly neither does Mancini! so stop picking meaningless arguements you deluded monkey.
LOL, man do you know what does the word contradict means cv32?? You say you never mentioned captaincy being unimportant, then you follow it up with "I don't care". Anyone with two brain cells to fuse can see you can't comprehend what captaincy involves, in other words to you captaincy can be taken lightly because anyone can be one. You don't seem to understand some people are made to be leaders, while others can't. Plus I also highly doubt Mancini shares the same opinion as you do. Speaking of meaningless, didn't I call you that when you asked me to prove something so outrageous like video footage of what happens in the change rooms, you know it doesn't have the same effect when you use it twice cv32, in fact it's quite lame :rolleyes:

nismo
07-12-2004, 12:43 PM
no nismo, you were being a nobend because you obviously didn't understand when i said "Vieri had to pull Inter out of relegation" when i was specifically speaking that were halfway near their only to have Super Bobo pull Inter away. Sorry if i wasn't specific enough Mr. Serie A expert.
No, it seems you didn't even understand yourself if you felt the need to change what you orignally said. If we were never in the relegation zone then there was no need to use the word now was it? Kinda like saying Vieri powered us to the Scudetto when we finished 2nd :rolleyes: Sorry, but nearly isn't actual now is it? You know, I don't know why you're calling me "Mr Serie A expert" since it was more to do with your english problems than anything over football :rolleyes:

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-12-2004, 01:06 PM
No, it seems you didn't even understand yourself if you felt the need to change what you orignally said. If we were never in the relegation zone then there was no need to use the word now was it? Kinda like saying Vieri powered us to the Scudetto when we finished 2nd :rolleyes: Sorry, but nearly isn't actual now is it? You know, I don't know why you're calling me "Mr Serie A expert" since it was more to do with your english problems than anything over football :rolleyes:



this is all you being a nobend desperatly trying to find something out of spite to hit me back with. that's just my opinion. :yawn:

nismo
07-12-2004, 01:13 PM
this is all you being a nobend desperatly trying to find something out of spite to hit me back with in my opinion :yawn:
First of all what opinion did you have in the first place?? Opinions are subjective, not objective. You saying Vieri pulled Inter out of relegation is fact, not opinion, because you're reffering to something that really happened. Second of all, can you show me how I'm "desperately" trying to fine a way out?? If anyone here is desperate is you, because you can't even own up to your mistakes.

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-12-2004, 01:24 PM
Aye stupid and who said Vieri saving Inter from relegation was an opinion. I know as well it is a fact because i witnessed it myself. So stop being a deluded monkey nismo you very damn well knew what i was talking about, only your arrogance has blinded 75% of seeing it you annoying ****o.

Sebastian
07-12-2004, 04:49 PM
Apparently idiots like you elcino have only watched vieri in the last 6 months. have you tried watching him in Wc 98 and 2002?

you know the problems with RETRO-imbecils like you is the fact that you're logic relies on certain memmories and past reflections....you do not meassure curent arguments like rational people do....who gives a damn about what he was before two or four years you retarded ammeba whe he cant even define what a FOOTBALL BALL LOOKS LIKE....you know what...i hope that he'll leave INTER for the good of the team....INTER has strikers that are miles ahead of that impotent junk...if he had a controll of his legs he would've been the first scorer in seria A....he's dribling skills are ridiculous.....his skill standard is paralel with you'rs INTRELLECTUAL standard...so it's not surprising that you're favorite player is the most uncreative and most hilarious striker in the world....you just go arround and defends and idiot just like you...cos that's defining you....you're REZON is so limmited that you cant understand what a players like ADRIANO....MARTINS and RECOBA are doing with their creativity....and those are the strikers that will lead INTER to the most sensational heights in the world of football...not VIERI...if he's smurt and i know he's not he'll leave INTER...cos even a RETARDED SUB HUMANOIDE like you knows that he cant compete with RECOBA and MARTINS....as for ADRIANO words are a waste of time and finger calories....;)....

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-12-2004, 10:12 PM
Elcino shut up and sit down fool, you are bringing this forum down with your stupidity Do you even know what you are talking about? It's very clear you know shit about the sport let alone Calcio italiano. Aside from all that jibberish you wrote you still haven't answered the question i wrote back in my other post when i said name a player who has partcipated in both Torino and Milan derbies playing for all 4 clubs Inter,Milan,Juventus,Torino? what was your answer again? Marco Ferrante? LOL! Forget about that for moment, do you even know what Lo scudetto means?

nismo
07-13-2004, 02:46 AM
Aye stupid and who said Vieri saving Inter from relegation was an opinion. I know as well it is a fact because i witnessed it myself. So stop being a deluded monkey nismo you very damn well knew what i was talking about, only your arrogance has blinded 75% of seeing it you annoying ****o.
Errrr weren't you the one who said "hit me back with in my opinion" :rolleyes: If you can't distinguish between fact and opinion, then that's your problem that you'll have to address with your english teacher. God your english skils is as worse as your football knowledge. Why are you changing the subject?? Weren't we talking about the differences between midtable and relegation zone? Now you've taken two steps back and went back to how convinced you are that Vieri took us from relegation, when we were never fighting in the bottom 4 spots. The whole point of an arguement is to take it forward, not go around circles, shit even a 5 year old would know that:rolleyes: Take this any more steps back cv32, and you devolve into a caveman.

nismo
07-13-2004, 02:47 AM
Forget about that for moment, do you even know what Lo scudetto means?
Is that all you can ever ask?? Get a life moron

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-13-2004, 10:39 AM
Is that all you can ever ask?? Get a life moron



Oh right how clever you are. You are just one of the many so called "Interistas" on this board who has still avoided the question. If you were an interista let alone a Calcio fan you would easily answer the question. Nismo you are better off editing peoples posts or somewhat because thats what you are only useful for,cheerio.

nismo
07-13-2004, 12:43 PM
Oh right how clever you are. You are just one of the many so called "Interistas" on this board who has still avoided the question. If you were an interista let alone a Calcio fan you would easily answer the question. Nismo you are better off editing peoples posts or somewhat because thats what you are only useful for,cheerio.
First of all when was it ever a question to the public?? It started out as an arguement between you and elcino, and that's how it stayed, in fact you trying to bring it up everytime shows how pathetic you really are at changing the subject. I still don't understand how not knowing a piece trivial information determines the "level" of fan you are, in fact you not knowing the role of playmaker, and difference between LB and Left wing speaks volumes about your lack of football knowledge than anything else. And like I said before, how could I avoid the question when it was something between you and elcino in the first place? But to end this once and for all so I never have to hear that bullshit, it's Aldo Serena ok? I knew it all along, but I wasn't gonna let you have your way since it was between you and elcino plus you never showed the same courtesy to answer my question, which brings me now to ask you when are you going to give me answer to all my posts instead of those one line bullshit?? if you had any balls you would go back to all those posts and edit those one line B/S to a proper post, what are you afraid of? Or what about my question to prove your claims of being no1 Inter fan arund here?? Or what about my question about where did you see Cuper use Coco on the left wing, instead giving me a game against Ancona which had Zac in charge?? Why are you always running away at the slightest hint that you might be wrong??

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-13-2004, 01:26 PM
First of all when was it ever a question to the public?? It started out as an arguement between you and elcino, and that's how it stayed, in fact you trying to bring it up everytime shows how pathetic you really are at changing the subject. I still don't understand how not knowing a piece trivial information determines the "level" of fan you are, in fact you not knowing the role of playmaker, and difference between LB and Left wing speaks volumes about your lack of football knowledge than anything else. And like I said before, how could I avoid the question when it was something between you and elcino in the first place? But to end this once and for all so I never have to hear that bullshit, it's Aldo Serena ok? I knew it all along, but I wasn't gonna let you have your way since it was between you and elcino plus you never showed the same courtesy to answer my question, which brings me now to ask you when are you going to give me answer to all my posts instead of those one line bullshit?? if you had any balls you would go back to all those posts and edit those one line B/S to a proper post, what are you afraid of? Or what about my question to prove your claims of being no1 Inter fan arund here?? Or what about my question about where did you see Cuper use Coco on the left wing, instead giving me a game against Ancona which had Zac in charge?? Why are you always running away at the slightest hint that you might be wrong??




First off, I made the question public after you kept denying me from answering it. And don't even think about saying where did i say that because i clearly asked you the same question in my other post. Changing the subject? have you seen yourself what you wrote lately? I remember asking this trivia question more than 2 times now and expected an answer when it was VALID last month. who is the one looking to change the subject again?

Secondly, Who the fukk are you to say that i do not know the difference between LW and LB? where is this proof that you brag so much about where i didn't know where a playmakers role is? Without proof your post is meaningless just like the rest of the garbage you bring here.


Thirdly, well it's about time i heard an answer from you that was correctly answered. But guess what? You are more than a month late. the answer would have been at least valid for 24 hrs tops. How covenient that you brought the answer up after googleing for it all this month even though i still haven't answered your previous bullshit questions yet you answer it now when you were being such a biotch about it before by not answering it when i first asked you? Please nismo you are fool. You will never be a Interista. Or not a real one that is.



And lastly So what about if i said wrong about Coco playing as LW under Cuper? that fact remains he is able to play in any position on the left side. And really what are you moaning about? what about you when you said about Vieri playing in La liga bullshit where giorgio clearly corrected you on? I nismo at least talk sense when discussing about Inter or any club team in italy. on the other hand you are probally one of the most decent members on this forum compared to other idiots such as Chu Chu, Ilfenomeno,..etc...But at most times you are pointless which gives me no retaliation to reply back. I rather move on to the next subject and not spend my time argueing over the same pointless bullshit everyday.

devious
07-13-2004, 02:06 PM
First of all when was it ever a question to the public?? It started out as an arguement between you and elcino, and that's how it stayed, in fact you trying to bring it up everytime shows how pathetic you really are at changing the subject. I still don't understand how not knowing a piece trivial information determines the "level" of fan you are, in fact you not knowing the role of playmaker, and difference between LB and Left wing speaks volumes about your lack of football knowledge than anything else. And like I said before, how could I avoid the question when it was something between you and elcino in the first place? But to end this once and for all so I never have to hear that bullshit, it's Aldo Serena ok? I knew it all along, but I wasn't gonna let you have your way since it was between you and elcino plus you never showed the same courtesy to answer my question, which brings me now to ask you when are you going to give me answer to all my posts instead of those one line bullshit?? if you had any balls you would go back to all those posts and edit those one line B/S to a proper post, what are you afraid of? Or what about my question to prove your claims of being no1 Inter fan arund here?? Or what about my question about where did you see Cuper use Coco on the left wing, instead giving me a game against Ancona which had Zac in charge?? Why are you always running away at the slightest hint that you might be wrong??
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First off, I made the question public after you kept denying me from answering it. And don't even think about saying where did i say that because i clearly asked you the same question in my other post. Changing the subject? have you seen yourself what you wrote lately? I remember asking this trivia question more than 2 times now and expected an answer when it was VALID last month. who is the one looking to change the subject again?

Secondly, Who the fukk are you to say that i do not know the difference between LW and LB? where is this proof that you brag so much about where i didn't know where a playmakers role is? Without proof your post is meaningless just like the rest of the garbage you bring here.


Thirdly, well it's about time i heard an answer from you that was correctly answered. But guess what? You are more than a month late. the answer would have been at least valid for 24 hrs tops. How covenient that you brought the answer up after googleing for it all this month even though i still haven't answered your previous bullshit questions yet you answer it now when you were being such a biotch about it before by not answering it when i first asked you? Please nismo you are fool. You will never be a Interista. Or not a real one that is.



And lastly So what about if i said wrong about Coco playing as LW under Cuper? that fact remains he is able to play in any position on the left side. And really what are you moaning about? what about you when you said about Vieri playing in La liga bullshit where giorgio clearly corrected you on? I nismo at least talk sense when discussing about Inter or any club team in italy. on the other hand you are probally one of the most decent members on this forum compared to other idiots such as Chu Chu, Ilfenomeno,..etc...But at most times you are pointless which gives me no retaliation to reply back. I rather move on to the next subject and not spend my time argueing over the same pointless bullshit everyday.
No guys.. that`s not good! we need to fix this problem... CV32.. the all problem came because of your bad language you must express your words in a little clean way and belive me everything will be alright ..nismo.. every one here have a limit of Football knowledge.. and that`s why we share all our knowledge here, so there is no need to reveal that someone here don`t have as much as you know about football..
that puts you two in a bad frame..
Just take it easy guys.. and act wisely next time.

nismo
07-13-2004, 02:17 PM
First off, I made the question public after you kept denying me from answering it. And don't even think about saying where did i say that because i clearly asked you the same question in my other post. Changing the subject? have you seen yourself what you wrote lately? I remember asking this trivia question more than 2 times now and expected an answer when it was VALID last month. who is the one looking to change the subject again?
WTF?? Do ever check your post before posting cv32? I denied you from answering it?? Don't you mean the other way around? Let's get this straight, in the beginning it was a question to elcino which resulted in an arguement. I didn't want to get involved, plus there was no way I was gonna give you the benefit of the doubt for reasons I already mentioned. F____ cv32, you're so lame, I remember everytime I asked you something you persistently gave me that Serena question in return, now you're trying to suggest I change the subject, when in fact I accused you first of changing the subject by asking me the Serena question in the first place, do you how absurd and ridiculous that sounds? It doesn't even make any sense :rolleyes: BTW didn't I already gave you the reason why I never intended to give in to you? Please read my post again


Secondly, Who the fukk are you to say that i do not know the difference between LW and LB? where is this proof that you brag so much about where i didn't know where a playmakers role is? Without proof your post is meaningless just like the rest of the garbage you bring here.
If you knew the difference between LW and LB, you wouldn't have gotten involved over the Coco/Winger-arguement with me then would you?? Because I asked you when did Cuper ever use Coco as winger, instead you give me a formation which Zac used, and one which Coco wasn't even a winger, but wingback. Sorry but that alone is enough to assume you don't know your positions too well.


Thirdly, well it's about time i heard an answer from you that was correctly answered. But guess what? You are more than a month late. the answer would have been at least valid for 24 hrs tops. How covenient that you brought the answer up after googleing for it all this month even though i still haven't answered your previous bullshit questions yet you answer it now when you were being such a biotch about it before by not answering it when i first asked you? Please nismo you are fool. You will never be a Interista. Or not a real one that is.
Didn't I already give you my reasons for never intending to answer you in the first place, it was out of spite against you and respect for elcino. If it was too late, then why do you insist on bringing it up 1 month after?? If you say I'm late then I can easily say the same thing about you for not answering my questions soon enough. And if I you reckon I got it off Google, then why did you ask me in the firstplace, if you knew it would so easy and convenient, sorry cv32 I'm not a loser like you with no social life, only a pathetic idiot like you would suggest I'd spend a month looking for something so irrelevant. Let me guess, I bet if I answered you straight up you would still accuse me of going thru Google right? Then what was the whole purpose behind the question in the firstplace if I was to lose either way?? When did you ask me first BTW, you do know there was a reason I why I said you were changing the subject with that Serena-question, maybe it's because I asked you first to answer my questions! if you don't believe me go back and check. You go around saying lewd statements like "you'll never be an Interista" yet you've displayed the biggest proof there is that you're no where near an Inter-fan with your well known racist and xenophobic attitudes (yeah lookup the word xenophobic in the dictionary if you don't know). That alone is enough to default you as a non-inter fan

And lastly So what about if i said wrong about Coco playing as LW under Cuper? that fact remains he is able to play in any position on the left side. And really what are you moaning about? what about you when you said about Vieri playing in La liga bullshit where giorgio clearly corrected you on? I nismo at least talk sense when discussing about Inter or any club team in italy. on the other hand you are probally one of the most decent members on this forum compared to other idiots such as Chu Chu, Ilfenomeno,..such and such...But at most time you are pointless which gives me no retaliation to reply back. I rather move on to the next subject and not spend my time argueing over the same pointless bullshit everyday.
Well wasn't that the whole point to begin with dumbass?? You said he's played winger, under Cuper before. I asked you to prove it and you give me Zac's team. No it's not a fact, Coco can't play anywhere on the left, cause I've yet to see him play in a trident upfront like Cesar. What Vieri bullshit are you talking about?? Giorgio didn't correct, he said you were talking about 02/03 season. You gave me the stat of 24/25 goals in 24 something games, which I thought you were talking about La Liga, but I never denied the statistic you got jackshit on me. At least I said sorry and recognised I misinterpreted you.
You know I gave you the chance for us to become fellow colleagues on this board, but you totally disrespected me and ignored my truce. You talk about eveyone here being no-good Inter fans, stupid idiots and what not, yet you still keep on coming back. You must have no social life, and no real friends if you still return to the place where no one gets along with you. I don't care what your reply is because your actions contradict your words, you're either plain stupid, or desperate for friends and attention if you keep posting on this board. Take your pick cv32.

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-13-2004, 02:32 PM
yawn..........

nismo
07-13-2004, 02:54 PM
Why am I not surprised :rolleyes:
Keep on running cv32, you might be able to avoid replying to me properly, but you can't run away from your problems. I'll always have the last laugh over you.

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-13-2004, 02:59 PM
Ask me if i care?

nismo
07-13-2004, 03:31 PM
Ask me if i care?
If you didn't care you wouldn't have wasted 3 pages arguing with me in this thread, as well as all those other threads. But I couldn't give two shits what you feel or think, cause no matter how many times you post here or wuss-off whenever you feel like it, in the end it's your problem not mine.

doz
07-14-2004, 02:28 PM
I personally would never consider Vieri for the captaincy. He's not a leader and considering how he played for the majority of last season and at the Euros, he doesn't deserve it.

Lance Knight
07-14-2004, 04:22 PM
i think Gerrad would make a good captain, for england that is
and i agree Vieri doesnt deserve it

Sebastian
07-14-2004, 06:53 PM
Elcino shut up and sit down fool, you are bringing this forum down with your stupidity Do you even know what you are talking about? It's very clear you know shit about the sport let alone Calcio italiano. Aside from all that jibberish you wrote you still haven't answered the question i wrote back in my other post when i said name a player who has partcipated in both Torino and Milan derbies playing for all 4 clubs Inter,Milan,Juventus,Torino? what was your answer again? Marco Ferrante? LOL! Forget about that for moment, do you even know what Lo scudetto means?

anwering to a moron will make me a bigger moron...even if i didnt knew that it's easy to find out here on internet even what number you're pants are...im here for a quite a while...but still you're the only person i'd call ignorant and imature....antisocial characters are so easy to detect...they hate all the world becouse no agree with them....how sad...:cry:....:(....if you go in reality and insolt people like that you'll be easily send in to ANESTETICS AND REANIMATION....but this is a way to manifest you're pathetic frustrations...il fenomeno is a hard character...he has argued literaly with everyone here and still everyone loves and apriciate him...but you are a tiny piece of junk...why are you even comming here....to fart with you're fallen IDIOL???....:confused:.....

Lance Knight
07-15-2004, 05:34 AM
guys havent u seen vieri's performance at euro 2004.
IT SUCKED if u havent noticed

nismo
07-15-2004, 10:29 AM
anwering to a moron will make me a bigger moron...even if i didnt knew that it's easy to find out here on internet even what number you're pants are...im here for a quite a while...but still you're the only person i'd call ignorant and imature....antisocial characters are so easy to detect...they hate all the world becouse no agree with them....how sad...:cry:....:(....if you go in reality and insolt people like that you'll be easily send in to ANESTETICS AND REANIMATION....but this is a way to manifest you're pathetic frustrations...il fenomeno is a hard character...he has argued literaly with everyone here and still everyone loves and apriciate him...but you are a tiny piece of junk...why are you even comming here....to fart with you're fallen IDIOL???....:confused:.....
Not only that, but he openly expressed his negative feelings about everyone here and the board, then goes on to say he's "leaving" but comes back after 1 day. Doesn't that act just cry out the words "Pathetic", "Loser", & "Depressing" to you??

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-15-2004, 11:09 AM
Jesus christ what are you on about? Just because i left with a sign out comment means i wasn't coming back? LOL! you are unbelievable nismo.

Sebastian
07-15-2004, 04:01 PM
guys havent u seen vieri's performance at euro 2004.
IT SUCKED if u havent noticed

watch you're mouth gothic priest.....:silly:....he's the "best striker in the world".....he used to score a shit load of goals two years ago.....:ronaldo:...we will keep him here in INTER becouse he was a good striker ONCE UPON A TIME...:D....he'll go arround and ask him self"where's the damn ball"....or "where's the freakin goal" next season....hahahahaha....:silly:...we should keep him in INTER..actually he sould be a starter together with ADRIANO...we should really exclude the two brilliant strikers like MARTINS and RECOBA......

zenden9
07-15-2004, 04:10 PM
I think Vieri has aged a lot! He is not sharp as 2 yrs ago. Even his recently serie A performances is not very fantastic.

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-16-2004, 12:25 AM
You do know that Vieri has netted 17 goals for Inter last season? Geez even when Bobo had the shittiest season he was still able to claim top goal scorer at Inter. Sounds pretty pathetic to the rest doesn't it?

chu_chu
07-16-2004, 12:38 AM
You do know that Vieri has netted 17 goals for Inter last season? Geez even when Bobo had the shittiest season he was still able to claim top goal scorer at Inter. Sounds pretty pathetic to the rest doesn't it?

wow you are getting better and better... bobo was inter top scorer... but how many wins he got for us by his goals? less than 6?

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-16-2004, 12:52 AM
What the ***k does scoring goals have to do with inter winning games stupid? Did you see Inter's defence last year? probally not. Bobo can score a hat-trick and not even that would be enough for this current Inter.BTW how many games did Recoba win for us that was important last year?

chu_chu
07-16-2004, 01:38 AM
What the ***k does scoring goals have to do with inter winning games stupid? Did you see Inter's defence last year? probally not. Bobo can score a hat-trick and not even that would be enough for this current Inter.BTW how many games did Recoba win for us that was important last year?


imho, a candidate for captain, if he is a striker, must at least has motivation to win... by anything... not only scoring a consolation...
but it's all up to the coach... ^^

you are always unfair when comparing other players... sounds interesting... okay, i'll do the same way.... was vieri the top 5 scorers in the league last season?? he got only 13 goals, am i correct? 13 goals wasn't enough for the 'super brilliant striker' who always single-handedly score his goal... and most of the 13 goals he scored are consolation.....
and i think adriano was better... 17 goals?? i believe he was on the fifth spot.

now it's my turn to ask you.... what does scoring goals have to do with the defense?? in fact, vieri missed too many chances that could win us some games last season... he missed too many chances provided by the midfield.... ^^
btw... does it sound like when you review davids from his first half season with juve (last year)... hell... i just did the similar things to vieri, didn't i?? :evil:

keep mocking other players you don't like... and i will mock vieri to no end.... :)

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-16-2004, 01:52 AM
you are always unfair when comparing other players... sounds interesting... okay, i'll do the same way.... was vieri the top 5 scorers in the league last season?? he got only 13 goals, am i correct? 13 goals wasn't enough for the 'super brilliant striker' who always single-handedly score his goal... and most of the 13 goals he scored are consolation.....
and i think adriano was better... 17 goals?? i believe he was on the fifth spot.


WTF? Now i know you didnt watch inter last season or else you would have known the fact that Zaccheroni,Adriano, and Injury has kept Bobo from playing a full season. Yet He scored 17 goals. oh yea that sounds overrated :rolleyes:





btw... does it sound like when you review davids from his first half season with juve (last year)... hell... i just did the similar things to vieri, didn't i??


Not even close.



keep mocking other players you don't like... and i will mock vieri to no end


Nor that you don't have any proof or any concrete arguement about mocking Vieri who is highly underrated in Serie A but you don't have the intelligence or football sense to even talk about this sport at all. You are just simply annoying, you know it and i know it.

chu_chu
07-16-2004, 02:11 AM
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WTF? Now i know you didnt watch inter last season or else you would have known the fact that Zaccheroni,Adriano, and Injury has kept Bobo from playing a full season. Yet He scored 17 goals. oh yea that sounds overrated :rolleyes:
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now another unfair question from me... what does scoring goals have to do with the injuries... adriano was also injured last season... but on return, he scored some great goals and brought inter the 4th spot... and what vieri did when he return from injury?? he scored only a couple goals and gave us some draw and losing games... pls don't talk about the 13 goals he single-handedly scored... adriano did his goals better, thousand times better than vieri did, single-handedly

zacc gave vieri too many chances i think... and he even played adriano as a support striker...

adriano kept vieri from playing?? so you finally agree that adriano is better than vieri... wow... i can't believe that i can make you to think that way...

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Nor that you don't have any proof or any concrete arguement about mocking Vieri who is highly underrated in Serie A but you don't have the intelligence or football sense to even talk about this sport at all. You are just simply annoying, you know it, and i know it.</b>

lack of intelligence and football sense... nice shot buddy... i always think that you are better than me.... even others rate you as the best football analyst in this forum... so you are absolutely right... ^^

and i don't know if i was that annoying... glad to hear that... ^^
i think i'll keep it that way... to you and only to you :)

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-16-2004, 02:30 AM
now another unfair question from me... what does scoring goals have to do with the injuries... adriano was also injured last season... but on return, he scored some great goals and brought inter the 4th spot... and what vieri did when he return from injury?? he scored only a couple goals and gave us some draw and losing games... pls don't talk about the 13 goals he single-handedly scored... adriano did his goals better, thousand times better than vieri did, single-handedly


What the ***k does Adriano being injured at Parma have to do with Vieri being Injured at Inter? You do know Inter and Parma are 2 different teams? One played attractive football last season, the other was struggling to field a decent squad because of too many injuries to the the star players. Brilliant goals eh? I guess you missed that fantastic looping header by Vieri against Sampdoria? Yea Vieri scored 13 goals in 22 games what's so bad about that? Adriano netted 9 goals in 16 games at Inter. do you see any difference stupid? Let me remind you Vieri has been at Inter for 5 seasons now his performance is exsuseable, whilst Adriano was trying to make a mark at Inter and he only scored 9 goals in 16 games.

chu_chu
07-16-2004, 03:35 AM
What the ***k does Adriano being injured at Parma have to do with Vieri being Injured at Inter? You do know Inter and Parma are 2 different teams? One played attractive football last season, the other was struggling to field a decent squad because of too many injuries to the the star players. Brilliant goals eh? I guess you missed that fantastic looping header by Vieri against Sampdoria? Yea Vieri scored 13 goals in 22 games what's so bad about that? Adriano netted 9 goals in 16 games at Inter. do you see any difference stupid? Let me remind you Vieri has been at Inter for 5 seasons now his performance is exsuseable, whilst Adriano was trying to make a mark at Inter and he only scored 9 goals in 16 games.

injury is injury.. it won't matter where the player got the injury at... club won't matter...

another question to you...
what does club have to do with player's injury and his scoring task?
adriano had to change his club and tried to play with the new team... and he still scored and brought us winning games... while vieri played with the old squad and still couldn't win us anything....

what header?? fantastic header...?? unbelievable... ^^ (you know guys... i bet inzaghi and hubner are better than vieri in scoring beautiful header....)

what else vieri did? tap in? what tap in? ultimate tap in...?? keep going cv32 as i learn more and more from you.... :)

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-16-2004, 07:48 AM
injury is injury.. it won't matter where the player got the injury at... club won't matter...
another unfair question to you...
what does club have to do with player's injury and his scoring task?
adriano had to change his club and tried to play with the new team... and he still scored and brought us winning games... while vieri played with the old squad and still couldn't win us anything....

what header?? fantastic header...?? unbelievable... ^^ (you know guys... i bet inzaghi and hubner are better than vieri in scoring beautiful header....)

what else vieri did? tap in? what tap in? ultimate tap in...?? keep going cv32 as i learn more and more from you.... :)



Chu Chu you have made me reach to the point where i cannot discuss about inter or anything involving football with you anymore. Untill you grow up and mature yourself maybe there is a decent chance we can talk again, till then adios.

chu_chu
07-16-2004, 08:01 AM
Chu Chu you have made me reach the point where i cannot discuss about inter or anything involving football with you anymore.
really? very disappointing....

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Untill you grow up and mature yourself maybe there is a decent chance we can talk again and maybe you can learn more.
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hey... nice advice from an adult..

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Till then adios.
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so you decide to leave the forum again? forever?? or temporarily?? :)

nismo
07-16-2004, 10:48 AM
Jesus christ what are you on about? Just because i left with a sign out comment means i wasn't coming back? LOL! you are unbelievable nismo.
Well I don't know, what other conclusion can one come to when you slag-off nearly everyone on the board, then proceed to post a message describing the board as a disgrace and about leaving??:rolleyes: Your return only suggests two alternatives, that you're either stupid, or have no friends, sorry but that's the reality and nothing you say will change it.

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-16-2004, 11:35 AM
Well I don't know, what other conclusion can one come to when you slag-off nearly everyone on the board, then proceed to post a message describing the board as a disgrace and about leaving??:rolleyes: Your return only suggests two alternatives, that you're either stupid, or have no friends, sorry but that's the reality and nothing you say will change it.


What are you on about? It was a sign off quote stupid.You are unbearable nismo just admit you are obssesed with me and move on you annoying ****.

Sebastian
07-17-2004, 07:29 PM
...:silly:....:ronaldo:.....hahahahhaahha....watching you're posts CV 32 takes me back in elementary school.....:D......

GiorgioII
07-19-2004, 08:51 AM
I have to agree with eLcino. We should keep Vieri as he has skills to match that of Pele, Cryuff, Maradona etc.

No, being serious, I'm happy for Vieri to remain as long as he accepts that he's not a first choice starter. He probably wouldn't accept this, so maybe it is time for him to be sold.

CV32, let me ask you a question. Would you still support Inter if Vieri left??

BTW, I agree with the guy who said Gerrard should be England's captain. He leads Liverpool superbly and was the sole reason behind them getting the last CL place. In fact without him Liverpool would have been in the bottom half of the table.

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-19-2004, 10:11 AM
CV32, let me ask you a question. Would you still support Inter if Vieri left??


You do know there was other players who was just as good and better than Vieri at Inter? I Support Vieri because he is my favourite Inter player like as of Nicola Berti,serena, and Matthaus was my favourite player when they were Inter players. Aside from J.Zanetti, I also support Bobo because he trully has heart for this club. Even after all the jibberish from the Media and Fans Bobo is Still here. I mean for the 5th straight year now Bobo has turned down Juve and Real Madrid doesn't that astonish you any way? You do know Bobo could have already won something big in Europe or in the leagues if he went to these big clubs? Bobo threw out half of his career for Inter and that takes alot of balls to do. Not like that bastardo Ronaldo who left Inter for some poor excuse and never returned ever since but yet he hasn't won dick in europe which is a price for betraying a club who nursed his arse all year.You talk as if i was those gloryhunting fans who like and support individual players to every club they go what the ***k is that about? I am always and forever Interista no matter what happens.

GiorgioII
07-19-2004, 10:35 AM
CV32, let me ask you a question. Would you still support Inter if Vieri left??


You do know there was other players who was just as good and better than Vieri at Inter? I Support Vieri because he is my favourite Inter player like as of Nicola Berti,serena, and Matthaus was my favourite player when they were Inter players. Aside from J.Zanetti, I also support Bobo because he trully has heart for this club. Even after all the jibberish from the Media and Fans Bobo is Still here. I mean for the 5th straight year now Bobo has turned down Juve and Real Madrid doesn't that astonish you any way? You do know Bobo could have already won something big in Europe or in the leagues if he went to these big clubs? Bobo threw out half of his career for Inter and that takes alot of balls to do. Not like that bastardo Ronaldo who left Inter for some poor excuse and never returned ever since but yet he hasn't won dick in europe which is a price for betraying a club who nursed his arse all year.You talk as if i was those gloryhunting fans who like and support individual players to every club they go what the ***k is that about? I am always and forever Interista no matter what happens.

I understand that you're not a glory supporter, but becuase I didn't know you in the days of Serena and Matthaus I didn't know that you liked other players before as much as you like Vieri.
I have to agree with a lot of what Vieri has said, but I will maintain that his form has dropped and that he has peaked. Believe me CV32, I used to be almost as big a fan of Bobo as you are. He was fantastic in 2001/02 and 2002/03, but although he was good last season, you have to notice that there has been a signinficant decline in his form. Adriano is a fantastic player and I can't see the 2 of them being able to combine.

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-19-2004, 10:58 AM
You have some valid points there about Bobo and Adriano not knowing how to play together but can i ask why you think this? they have only played around 8 games together. I just want to you to go to this link and watch 2 of the games of Sampdoria 2-2 Inter and Inter 2-2 Juventus 2nd leg Coppa italia. Because be honest i know you didn't watch every match of Inter's last season, I'm not insulting you because it's not your fault, you have reasons why. I'm just trying to make things better out of this situation because you are not one of those childish mindless idiots like Elcino and Chu Chu. But look at those 2 videos and see where do you spot any incosistency between the both? I know 2 videos is not enough but like i said they only played 8 games together, and on top of that there was too many injuries in midfield and defence and both had to rely on crappy balls from defense. You also pointed out where you said Bobo was great in the 2002/2003 season where Inter almost went to the CL Final and came runners up again for the Scudetto. Now, didn't Crespo play with Vieri that year? at the beginning and most through out the season they both clearly couldn't play together. But who cares? They co-existed. One was quality in the Cl and the other in Serie A. Now i'm not saying they will be the best attacking partnership, But i think they can become one of the best soon. it just takes time and effort.


And to wrapped this up, i know Adriano is like your favourite player and all and you think he is better than Vieri. But, I don't see it that way at all because i've seen Adriano play. He's a ball hog and he loses the ball just like you seen Vieri do at times when he plays. I think Adriano will only be better in the future because he has incredible ball skills but i have only seen this against the shitty sides. And guess what? he's not going nowhere with the dribbling because it takes a team effort to make a good play. Both Bobo and Adriano were made to just score goals that's it.



Highlights of Inter games http://www.inter.it/aas/news/darwinlist?L=en

GiorgioII
07-19-2004, 11:21 AM
OK. You're right. I didn't watch all of Inter's games last season. This is because over here in England, coverage of Inter's matches is limited. The only channel that broadcasts Serie A is Eurosport, who normally choose Juventus or Milan, however as I don't have Europsort my friend tapes Inter's matches for me, so I would say that I watched Inter 14/15 times last season, which is enough for me to be able to come on this forum and express an opinion.
OK. Adriano is not my favourite player actually, that is Javier Zanetti, but after him there are a few who I really admire and Adriano is one of them. His dribbling does need working on, but I honestly say that his teamwork is improving and he is less selfish. The main reason I like him is for his blistering shooting ability.
I see what you're saying about Crepso and Vieri, but Crespo scored in the CL and not v.often in Serie A, while Vieri was the opposite, scoring loads in Serie A, but only 3 times in the CL. I would argue that they never really seemed to combined together, rather that they both performed well in 2 different competitions. When I look at the way any one of our 3 main forwards in 2001/02 managed to combine so well(Recoba, Ronaldo and Vieri)I would say that they are all different types of forwards and that is why it worked. Adriano and Vieri are too similar, that is why I have my doubts, neither of them can drop deeper or help out in midfield or play off the other one, that is why I worry. However, if the 2 of them can forge a deadly partnership, I will be delighted and will admit that I was wrong.
OK I'll watch these clips and see if I can see what you're trying to say. Are you saying that from these clips it is clear that they can or cannot combine??

nismo
07-19-2004, 12:09 PM
You have some valid points there about Bobo and Adriano not knowing how to play together but can i ask why you think this? they have only played around 8 games together. I just want to you to go to this link and watch 2 of the games of Sampdoria 2-2 Inter and Inter 2-2 Juventus 2nd leg Coppa italia. Because be honest i know you didn't watch every match of Inter's last season, I'm not insulting you because it's not your fault, you have reasons why. I'm just trying to make things better out of this situation because you are not one of those childish mindless idiots like Elcino and Chu Chu. But look at those 2 videos and see where do you spot any incosistency between the both? I know 2 videos is not enough but like i said they only played 8 games together, and on top of that there was too many injuries in midfield and defence and both had to rely on crappy balls from defense. You also pointed out where you said Bobo was great in the 2002/2003 season where Inter almost went to the CL Final and came runners up again for the Scudetto. Now, didn't Crespo play with Vieri that year? at the beginning and most through out the season they both clearly couldn't play together. But who cares? They co-existed. One was quality in the Cl and the other in Serie A. Now i'm not saying they will be the best attacking partnership, But i think they can become one of the best soon. it just takes time and effort.
I'll come out and say I didn't watch all of Inter's games, well I missed about 5 full games but I watched all the extended highlights of every match. (in fact I always ask you guys to tell me what happen whenever I don't) but I watched more than enough to make a proper analysis. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt cv32 that Bobo & Adriano didn't have enough time to gel and Zac and Vieri weren't exactly the best of friends. However I think Zac is also to blame also, he played Adriano on the wing whenever the two played, instead of perhaps using Cuper's method when he had Crespo-Vieri together i.e. Both center but one ahead and one deeper. Injuries notwithstanding, Zac's insistence on 3-4-3 ultimately killed Adriano-Vieri. Like I said I don't think you can compare Adriano-Vieri to Crespo-Vieri because both coaches used them differently, like I said before. Now that it's certain Vieri stays (well90% sure) I think Mancini will play Bobo-Adriano upfront. I don't know how, but he could do it in similiar fashion to Cuper.

And to wrapped this up, i know Adriano is like your favourite player and all and you think he is better than Vieri. But, I don't see it that way at all because i've seen Adriano play. He's a ball hog and he loses the ball just like you seen Vieri do at times when he plays. I think Adriano will only be better in the future because he has incredible ball skills but i have only seen this against the shitty sides. And guess what? he's not going nowhere with the dribbling because it takes a team effort to make a good play. Both Bobo and Adriano were made to just score goals that's it.



Highlights of Inter games http://www.inter.it/aas/news/darwinlist?L=en
And that's what I've been telling all along. Potentially Adriano can be twice the player Vieri is. Even now he's as good as Vieri if not better IMO I admit Adriano is a ball hog, but that's what you get from a striker like him, he's a brazilian forward :D If Adriano wasn't a ball hog he wouldn't be the same striker we know today. With that said, the main reason why Adriano is better than Vieri IMO is his ability to play the ball very well technically. His ball control is superb for a player of his size. Remember those goals against Empoli and Perugia Adriano scored?? I don't think I remember Vieri scoring those kind of goals, the kind Ronaldo used to score before his knee injuries. Actually cv32, you say you've only seen Adriano display his skills against small teams, well maybe that's because he was playing in a crap Inter side, desperate of ideas and teamwork. When he was at Parma, heck even Fiorentina, Adriano showed his class against the big teams, so I'm not worried about Adriano's composure in the big games, all I'm worried about is whether the rest of Inter can supply him the balls he need.

GiorgioII
07-19-2004, 12:25 PM
My computer is reasonably new and quite good also, but the quality of these highlights is poor in visual quality and speed. Any suggestions??

nismo
07-19-2004, 12:55 PM
CV32, let me ask you a question. Would you still support Inter if Vieri left??


You do know there was other players who was just as good and better than Vieri at Inter? I Support Vieri because he is my favourite Inter player like as of Nicola Berti,serena, and Matthaus was my favourite player when they were Inter players. Aside from J.Zanetti, I also support Bobo because he trully has heart for this club. Even after all the jibberish from the Media and Fans Bobo is Still here. I mean for the 5th straight year now Bobo has turned down Juve and Real Madrid doesn't that astonish you any way? You do know Bobo could have already won something big in Europe or in the leagues if he went to these big clubs? Bobo threw out half of his career for Inter and that takes alot of balls to do. Not like that bastardo Ronaldo who left Inter for some poor excuse and never returned ever since but yet he hasn't won dick in europe which is a price for betraying a club who nursed his arse all year.You talk as if i was those gloryhunting fans who like and support individual players to every club they go what the ***k is that about? I am always and forever Interista no matter what happens.
Maybe the reason why he's here is because of the big money :D
BTW Gloryhunting is a term used to describe people who support teams on the basis of whether they win trophies, and lots of them eg ManU or Juve. Inter has won jackshit except the UEFA Cup.
I'm not trying to start shit, but I still don't know how you can call yourself an Inter fan when you're a self-professed racist. While Inter are holding soccer camps for children in impoverished countries you go around making 3rd world jokes. With the club's history and foundation built on tolerance and coexistance you blame foreigners for Inter's problems. This isn't my own opinion but an observation that everyone else has seen

nismo
07-19-2004, 01:00 PM
What are you on about? It was a sign off quote stupid.You are unbearable nismo just admit you are obssesed with me and move on you annoying ****.
More like you're obsessed with this board if you still keep on coming back despite what you've said about everyone and the board before, and I'm not only talking your "sign-off" quote or whatever you call it. Sorry but I'm more interested in my social life to give people like you the slightest thoughts.

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-19-2004, 02:03 PM
Maybe the reason why he's here is because of the big money :D
BTW Gloryhunting is a term used to describe people who support teams on the basis of whether they win trophies, and lots of them eg ManU or Juve. Inter has won jackshit except the UEFA Cup.
I'm not trying to start shit, but I still don't know how you can call yourself an Inter fan when you're a self-professed racist. While Inter are holding soccer camps for children in impoverished countries you go around making 3rd world jokes. With the club's history and foundation built on tolerance and coexistance you blame foreigners for Inter's problems. This isn't my own opinion but an observation that everyone else has seen


Well aren't you fed up with the crap Moratti has bought in the transfer markets in the past 4 years? i'm not against foreigner players. i'm just against the ones that play at Inter. Sorry but shit like Emre,Almedya,Lamouchi, Van Der Meyde,Luciano,Helveg,Recoba, etc..etc.. are not worthy playing at Inter. And i have reasons behind every individual players performance just ask me about. It's not because they are foreigner,It's just a coincidence because they are so many of them.it may look like i hate them only because i am fed up at the ones that play at Inter. I just think Inter need to start playing Italian players in a Italian leagueso that in the near future Inter can produce young italian players. Sorry it's just my opinion. And secondly, when i get racist it is because i get annoyed by the foriegn fans on this forum who don't make sense and are highly unbearable. i'm not pointing straight at you and Giorgio because like i said, you guys at least talk sense because you guys do have valid points at times. But i'm talking about the other moronic monkeys (You know who you are) that brag about how good this players and that player is when they clearly don't know a shit because i know at least 70% of the members who post on this forum haven't watched a whole season of Inter's, they just read what shit is written on the Internet then they bring that here. I respect that you have opinions you have about the club and players. I just don't respect people who don't know a shit about the club. A perfect example would be that clown nimesh who was so biased how Almedya was more quality than C.Zanetti in midfield yet he did fukk all last season and ***k knows where he is now. He died off somewhere and no one will see him again. but anyways, capisce?


I'll try to be plain and simple so i can evaluate the new players that arrived at Inter



Cambiasso - Ya he had an average season with Real Madrid 2 seasons back, but was brutal in the last season, even though he had a half black season stuck with injuries, he still played shit. And on top of that, no way he will play before C.Zanetti,Veron, and Davids


Veron - Well what can i say about him? god knows if he is sill banged up coming from the English League. But if he plays like he did with Lazio than maybe Inter has a shot this season.


Davids - Overall, i use to think Davids was quality because he can defend and move quick on counter-attacks. But now it seems he has lost some potential on both ends seeing that he played shit for Juve last season and going a step down to Barcelona and having a shit performance at Euros ( aside from the last game against Portugal, he was quality)


Favalli - Probaly one of the most valuable and useful players inter has bought this summer. He can Defend,Attack, and cross on the left flank that any coach would want.


Choutos - Just another over-hyped greek shit


Burdisso - I can't really say much about Burdisso because i didn't watch Boca last season. All i can is that it won't be easy taking Materazzi's spot. I don't care if you all hate him as a individual player but on the field he's quality.


I can't predict what Inter will achieve this season because they are a unpredictable side. But IMO, i only think they won't do good is because their is too many foreigners and that none of them don't have a common language to speak on the field. Maybe this year it is Argentine and greek?

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-19-2004, 02:06 PM
Maybe the reason why he's here is because of the big money :D


I hope you were being sarcastic? Because Bobo owns a club in Milano and runs a successful fashion business and i'm pretty sure his financial status is extremely safe.

CV32 Top Ah Top
07-19-2004, 02:10 PM
OK I'll watch these clips and see if I can see what you're trying to say. Are you saying that from these clips it is clear that they can or cannot combine??


What i'm trying to say is that both can co-exist. But in those videos they only have highlights of the game. I can't get a video tape of the whole game and sit down with you and point to what i'm talking about.You basically just have to watch a full season of Inter. Just be sure and try to watch every game of Inter's this season and hope for the best for the both of them, ok?

GiorgioII
07-19-2004, 02:35 PM
I watch every match that I possibly can CV32, but like I said there is a distinct lack of coverage in England so last season I only saw 15 games. I don't want to start an argument with you but I do think that just because people have opinions that don't match yours you do seem to assume that they don't watch any Inter matches. I think you need to just accept that they probably did watch the game, but just don't share the same thoughts as you. Anyway, I'm not trying to start an argument with you because we seem to be getting along on here reasonably well at the moment.

devious
07-21-2004, 02:34 AM
Captain Recoba leads Inter to victory

15/07-2004

With Javier Zanetti on Copa America duty, Alvaro Recoba wore the captain's armband for the Nerazzurri's first test of 2004/05 against Marlene Brunico

"We're the first to be pleased about this nice environment," said Recoba after the 9-0 victory. "The important thing is to work well until the end. These friendlies are useful to try out movements and put petrol in the engine. The important thing is that we don't hurt ourselves.

"I think this will be my last chance. This is my eighth season with Inter and I have always said the same thing in the last three years - that it was my last chance... I think the moment has come to let my feet do the talking.

"I have had good and less good coaches, I have changed position a lot and I have played well and badly. There's a different environment here now and we must take advantage of this.

"The club is giving us a big help by putting together an important team, buying great champions and choosing them not only because of their individual characteristics, but also out of the necessities of the squad. Inter couldn't have put together a better team of players than the one it has now. So now it's up to us to satisfy the expectations."

[inter.it]

Recoba WORE the CAPTAIN`S ARMBAND when Javier isn`t here. DONE!

chu_chu
07-21-2004, 04:01 AM
giorgio...
i dunno pc really well... but here is what i think about your problem...
usually, its because the operating system you use doesn't match the system requirement... but i do believe that most of people around use the newer p4 system with standard amount of ram (256-512).... so it won't be a problem...
mine is old p3... i had same problem like yours when i ran win xp on it... that's why i hate win xp... i need to wait for those useless interface loading... about 5 minutes!! :)
i believe you can turn it off by accessing control panel (switch to the classic mode...) i prefer 2000, which is less complicated.. and i always suggest people to stick to 2000 pro/nt workstation...

(98 and millennium are also bad... installing additional ram won't improve the performance, i think... maybe only a bit)

other things, maybe the software you have cause the problem... (any network software would be a burden sometimes... turn off auto connect on start up... sth like that)
anti virus also affect the performance.... i never installed it on my workstations, but it isn't good to connect a pc to the net w/o one... ^^

the less graphic loading (and software you ran on background...) the better performance your pc has...

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to be honest, i watched less than 4 matches :)

btw cv32... you hate any inter fan who is foreigner... i wonder why you support inter.... (damn... even milan has foreign fan....) and from your player rating... it looks like you hate foreign players... please don't try to cover that by saying you are one of mathaeus fan or something like that... it just make you look like a kid who idolize superman as his dad or uncle....

you call other people monkeys and do you know that you always make yourself like a monkey trying to convince human to admit that you are the best monkey around? just kidding cv32 ^^

we never force you to accept something like player A is better than the player B... but sometimes your attitude is disgusting.... it is you who always do that to the most of the fans that don't agree with yours....

you always think we never watch every inter match because we don't have tv or something like that
you think we don't know anything about football...
i can accept those because i know i will end up in endless debate with you if i resist... but what about other people... you are a mature, right... i wonder if every mature fan is like you.... :)

GiorgioII
07-21-2004, 09:07 AM
Cheers chu chu....I'll see if it will work by doing what you suggested.

nismo
07-21-2004, 12:21 PM
Well aren't you fed up with the crap Moratti has bought in the transfer markets in the past 4 years? i'm not against foreigner players. i'm just against the ones that play at Inter. Sorry but shit like Emre,Almedya,Lamouchi, Van Der Meyde,Luciano,Helveg,Recoba, etc..etc.. are not worthy playing at Inter. And i have reasons behind every individual players performance just ask me about. It's not because they are foreigner,It's just a coincidence because they are so many of them.it may look like i hate them only because i am fed up at the ones that play at Inter. I just think Inter need to start playing Italian players in a Italian leagueso that in the near future Inter can produce young italian players. Sorry it's just my opinion. And secondly, when i get racist it is because i get annoyed by the foriegn fans on this forum who don't make sense and are highly unbearable. i'm not pointing straight at you and Giorgio because like i said, you guys at least talk sense because you guys do have valid points at times. But i'm talking about the other moronic monkeys (You know who you are) that brag about how good this players and that player is when they clearly don't know a shit because i know at least 70% of the members who post on this forum haven't watched a whole season of Inter's, they just read what shit is written on the Internet then they bring that here. I respect that you have opinions you have about the club and players. I just don't respect people who don't know a shit about the club. A perfect example would be that clown nimesh who was so biased how Almedya was more quality than C.Zanetti in midfield yet he did fukk all last season and ***k knows where he is now. He died off somewhere and no one will see him again. but anyways, capisce?

I agree that Inter should have an Italian back-bone, after all we're an italian side right? But that's me, Moratti on the other hand seems to buy players for the sake of buying. With that said I think you should be more specific when you describe players, simply bunching them together as "foreigners" and blaming them all at once is too convenient and a bit inaccurate don't you think? I think Emre and VDM (this season at least) should be excluded from you "list", since Emre has had an injury plagued season, and VDM just lost it once Cuper left. Oh yeah, I think you're too harsh on Almeyda, true he lost his head more times than I remember last season, but remember the 02/03 season, before he broke his leg Almeyda was a key performer alongside Emre. With Recoba, I totally understand where you're coming from, there's every reason in the world to hate Recoba, but then there's every reason in the world too why Recoba can become one of the top 5 players. Do you remember Recoba in that match against Roma 3-1 2001/2002?? I have recorded that match and to this day I still watch it. I pray Recoba can repeat that 38x times this season.

Sorry cv32, but there's no excuse for racism, I don't care how pissed you are, racism is never the answer. I also find it funny when you refer to these "foreign" fans, shit man we're on the Internet!!! Where's the boundaries?? You say "such & such" doesn't make sense, well the same can be said about you. That's the beauty of coming here, the differences in everyone's views shapes this board. And about people not watching games, it seems like that's the only excuse you come up with when someone doesn't agree with you, and I'm not saying this out of spite, I'm being honest here, if someone has a different opinion you automatically assume they didn't watch, heck that's the first thing you say to me everytime! If you tried to converse with people in a civilised manner, instead of resorting to cheap insults, assumptions and trying to determine how much football you watched compared to everyone, I think you'll find it a whole lot healthier. If someone disagrees with you, so what?? It's natural, just show them your side of the coin, be polite and courteous, and always be humble that there might be other alternatives.


Cambiasso - Ya he had an average season with Real Madrid 2 seasons back, but was brutal in the last season, even though he had a half black season stuck with injuries, he still played shit. And on top of that, no way he will play before C.Zanetti,Veron, and Davids
I don't think his 02/03 season was average, he was man of the match in the UEFA Super Cup and helped them to La Liga tile. Last season it was hardly his fault. His galactico teammates were more at fault IMO

Veron - Well what can i say about him? god knows if he is sill banged up coming from the English League. But if he plays like he did with Lazio than maybe Inter has a shot this season.
Agree with you there, so ditto.
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Davids - Overall, i use to think Davids was quality because he can defend and move quick on counter-attacks. But now it seems he has lost some potential on both ends seeing that he played shit for Juve last season and going a step down to Barcelona and having a shit performance at Euros ( aside from the last game against Portugal, he was quality)
Of course he played shit for Juve, he was hardly ever used. It's obvious he was delibrately frozen out. Like I said, it might've looked he went down a step to Barca but so what??? He helped the club to 2nd spot, above Juve in fact. I have yet to come across a Barca fan who rates Davids the same as you do cv32, they all have applause for him with how he dominated the midfield. Correction, Holland had a crap euro2004, Davids was one of their best performers. If you want to look at someone who had a shit performance at euro3004 try Vieri (and before you say what does Vieri have to do with this, I'm just using him as comparison)

Favalli - Probaly one of the most valuable and useful players inter has bought this summer. He can Defend,Attack, and cross on the left flank that any coach would want.
An old player, but useful as a squad player.


Choutos - Just another over-hyped greek shit


Burdisso - I can't really say much about Burdisso because i didn't watch Boca last season. All i can is that it won't be easy taking Materazzi's spot. I don't care if you all hate him as a individual player but on the field he's quality.


I can't predict what Inter will achieve this season because they are a unpredictable side. But IMO, i only think they won't do good is because their is too many foreigners and that none of them don't have a common language to speak on the field. Maybe this year it is Argentine and greek?
Choutos is one of those mystery signings, and I doubt he was "hype" to begin with cv32. I agree that Matrix will retain his 1st team spot, but you never know what Burdisso will pull out. I don't think the "language barrieri" will be as big a problem, most can speak italian even if basic. If we won't win anything, it's not because of foreigners, but simply we weren't good enuff

nismo
07-21-2004, 12:25 PM
Maybe the reason why he's here is because of the big money :D


I hope you were being sarcastic? Because Bobo owns a club in Milano and runs a successful fashion business and i'm pretty sure his financial status is extremely safe.
I was half joking there. But seriously, at Inter Vieri is one of the best earners in the world. The financial incentives is there for him