VIALLI

[PLUCKER]

Luca flipping his lid, Has all the signs that he is quickly beginning to feel the extra pressure of chelsea not having the best starts again, this season. West Ham, we looked ok but at the back very poor.Bradford poor all over,@Villa just could`nt get going for long enough spells. Thank god Arsenal`s not until weds week...
Back to the drawing board. and a rethink and a good kick up the players arse`s esp Leboueuf`s

The Plucker.

[zOla]

I am starting to think of Vialli as not being the right manager for Chelsea, true he is the one most successful manager in our history but lets think about it for a second, there is really no competition we have dominated, and we do have the players to do it.

Now I know a lot of people would not agree with me, but come on... Luca.. instead of putting out dumb excuses, come up with something that will make us win.

"everybody hates us" is what he said after the draw against Villa...

First, that is not true.
Second, stop the lame excuses and try fix the team... this ain't going anywhere... we gotta start winning !!!

Can't fix it ? then leave... that is what I have to say about the whole thing.

Maybe Vialli is trying some reverse stategy to put the team up, but I don't think it'll work.

oh well.. right now I am pissed..we should win the games against Villa and Bradord... we've got much better quality players than they do both together... so what are we doing here...

[Di Motteo]

You're right Plucker ! Luca is feeling the pressure . He needs to keep it under his hat though , otherwise it will filter through to the players . Don't forget though , last season we picked up 1 point v WHU @ home , 1 point v Bradford away , 1 point v Villa away , and no points v Arse' @ home , a total of 3 points from 4 games . This season we already have 4 points and still have to play the Arse' ; so it's not all gloom and despondancy just yet . How long did it take Ferguson to win the title with Man.U ? ( 5 or 6 seasons I think .)

One thing I know for sure is that to win the title you must have a very strong defence . At this moment in time that has got to be our biggest worry , because it looks a shambles . Going back to what I said earlier , against the 3 teams we have just played , last season we conceded 1 goal , this season we have conceded 5 ; I accept that this season we have scored 5 compared to 1 last year , but as I said before we wont win the league letting in goals at the rate we are at the moment !!

I must admit I am worried about the form of De Goey , he has already cost us 2 goals , maybe it's time to give Cudicini a run in the first team ?

[Aussie-Bosanac]

A lot of the things you guys say make sense but what you have to realise is that the manager doesn't win or lose the game for a team!!! it's the players that either suck or shine on the day. If they are such good quality players then why arn't they winning? Don't blame Vialli he isn't on the pitch making mistakes, missing chances and getting the ball kicked throuhg his legs. What can Vialli do?? threaten to kill their family's if they dont win. It's football, shit happens....
anyway that's just my opinion

[Di Motteo]

In reply to Aussie - Bosanac I have to say that you are partly correct , in so much as the manager can't be responsible for individual errors on the pitch , that is down to the players themselves . However he is very much responsible for the players he puts out on the field , and the formation that they play in . For example : we all know what a good player Poyet is especially when he is playing in behind the front 2 , picking up the pieces , making late runs into the box etc. but when Vialli plays him on the left of the midfield he becomes ineffective and quite frankly average because it isn't the position that he is best at . Likewise with Flo , he opperates best for Chelsea when he is up front on his own , with the likes of Zola and Poyet ( playing in midfield ) running into space to support him .

Why did Vialli play Panucci at centre - back against West Ham when the guy is one of the best right backs in Europe ? I think we all know the answer to that one !. Because he had had a disagreement with Leboeuf . Well that's all very well trying to teach Frank a lesson , but it could of cost us points ( and you could argue that it did against Bradford ) .

I think Vialli is responsible for the team performance over the 90 mins. At the end of the day the players do as they are told , and play where they are told to . If they didn't they would be dropped .

[zOla]

well if we don't win the next game... against Arsenal, there must be something wrong, not that it ain't now. This next game will be a very key one if we want to stay up.

About Aussie-Bosanac's comment, the manager plays a big role in the team... Di Motteo pointed it perfectly out. If he plays again Poyet on left and Panucci in centre, than obviously Luca has got no clue and must leave.

[Aussie-Bosanac]

Vialli's only problem in my opinion is that he has too many good players at his disposal and when picking the starting 11 he sometimes doesn't think through who plays best where. He is more concerned that his big names are on the pitch.
anyway we can just wait and see

[zOla]

naw, I doubt that is it. I think he is just trying to see how the players perform in those positions. WHICH he should better know.

[PLUCKER]

If Luca is not up to it, then who should we get??? I think that he is, But during the season we should not be trying out new things, Last season at the back we were great, midfield most of the time we were very good, up front could not score when we need to, This year up front looks much better, midfield field the same, But at the back....What gone wrong???????

[gb1520]

What is wrong with a Manager getting on his team when they don't play well. If it gets the team motavated and playing better he should say it, no matter what it is. The problem with chelsea is that they have to many players who are in love with themselves and get there feelings hurt when someone tells them they did something wrong, some one needs to give some of these players a reality check, tell them to shutup and play football.

[flo]

Let's get things straight here: Vialli knows exactly what he's doing. Somehow, teams like Bradford and Watford seems to break down Chelseas style of playing. Chelsea did godsmackingly gorgious in the Champions League, but why? Because Chelsea knows how to kick their performance up a notch or ten, when the opposing team is worth it. Same goes for cups. I'm spanking positive that Chelsea will reach the final in the UEFA Cup. Bradford is a "crappy" team, and that makes Chelsea crappy. Sad, but true. Ofcourse this is just a theory of mine... http://www.worldsoccerboard.com/ubb/wink.gif

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[zammiboy]

After the Arsenal Debacle, I am really frustrated and my belief that Vialli will lead Chelsea to that elusive primiership glory is shaken to the very foundations. Initially everybody was blaming only the team, but now I think Vialli is part to be blamed also !.
But that does'nt mean we have to throw Vialli out. We will give him some more extra time so that he sort out the rot.

Vialli is now living on the edges of Bates and the fan' nerves. He better start to to toughen up and start delivering.

I predict anymore defeats in the next few weeks will spell the end of Vialli at Chelsea.

[Di Motteo]

No I don't think so .

It's a long old season , and we've only just started .

We've had a few tough games and we've got at least 4 more to come ( Leicester = top , Man U (A) , Liverpool and Sunderland (A) ) .

As long as we can be there or thereabouts , we should be o.k.

Anyway the Press are calling for Viallis' head and Batesy never does what the Press say .

[Pitball]

Good post but knowing Ken Bates he will sack Vialli if things aren't going right.

However I do agree that it's early in the season and in comparison with last season, we aren't doing too bad. There are players still to come back from injury (Stanic, Ferrer, Bogarde, Terry, Poyet etc.) and I suspect players still to join the club (Savio and probably a new CM). Things aren't quite right at the moment but they will improve, even FLB is starting to say the right things in the last couple of days.

[zOla]

whoever knows me... knows that I am always positive about everything... I so hope Vialli to stay, but I dont think it'll be a case of we win no cups and not go into the Champions League.

Vialli is my favorite manager, no matter if he screws up and I hate that. But I face that facts.

I agree with Di Motteo though, good point there mate. It surely is a better start than last season, but it ain't a good start. We should not reliev ourselves with the fact we started better than last season. 'cause it ain't a good start again. Though, true..the season just started..we are 10th...

Lets see how good we'll beat St Gallen now.