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GiorgioII
07-14-2005, 08:45 PM
Vieria to Juve means that they are going to be really strong next season. I fear them more than Milan. They have the killer mentality that Milan seem to be lacking.
Pizarro is a good signing though and I hope that he is not used sporadically as he deserves more than that :thumbsup: .
chu_chu
07-14-2005, 09:31 PM
on paper... juve are stronger than us.... they already have superb defense and with vieira... they will be the strongest and most solid team in europe... i wonder what media would put on serie a prediction... i think they would put inter as the most favorite team while we are lacking of solid central defenders... ;p
finally one more signing for inter.... defender... just get one of this guys.... chivu, samuel, barzagli... i hope inter sign bonera as well in case if the main defender we recruit fail to impress... and my final wish from moratti... don't sell adriano!! (i'm not afraid of this coz inter are lacking forwards... selling adriano would make inter have to start building the team from beginning... especially on the attack which we suffer alot when playing milan)
Ryan27
07-14-2005, 10:04 PM
finally one more signing for inter.... defender... just get one of this guys.... chivu, samuel, barzagli... i hope inter sign bonera as well in case if the main defender we recruit fail to impress... and my final wish from moratti... don't sell adriano!! (i'm not afraid of this coz inter are lacking forwards... selling adriano would make inter have to start building the team from beginning... especially on the attack which we suffer alot when playing milan)
Yup, we just need that damn defender (or two). I don't think Inter need a replacement for Vieri, I'd just make sure that there is a promising forward in the Primavera team in case our 4 forwards have injury issues. With Makinwa to Palermo, I suppose Vucinic is the most likely forward now, but I'd rather he stay at Lecce another year and prove himself without Zeman rather than give us a surplus of forwards.
JoeJAMMY
07-14-2005, 10:18 PM
Veron said he only want one more season in europe so PIzaro and him will rotate this season prolly .. then next next season when Veron goesPIzaro would be perfect replacement .. i luv inter getting good player but one thing i dont get is All these player leaving Udinese .. they are a good team in champs league too .. more then what fior or roma can offer
chu_chu
07-14-2005, 10:21 PM
yes i think we should patiently wait for vucinic... if he can repeat such good record... 15-16 goals is also good.... he is as worth as gilardino is
anyway.. is pandev still ours.. or only between udinese and lazio? i hope we still have part of him... coz he is a good prospect
stefan99
07-14-2005, 10:30 PM
yes i think we should patiently wait for vucinic... if he can repeat such good record... 15-16 goals is also good.... he is as worth as gilardino is
anyway.. is pandev still ours.. or only between udinese and lazio? i hope we still have part of him... coz he is a good prospect
Only udinese and lazio now.
Ryan27
07-14-2005, 10:33 PM
Yup, Inter cut their ties with Pandev to get Pizarro. You can see it in the Italian version of Inter.it's Pizarro annoucement: http://inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=28298&L=it
I hate it when the English translators/writers at Inter.it get lazy lol. They usually do during the summer at some point. Vacationing I suppose....
chu_chu
07-14-2005, 10:44 PM
ah thats bad... but i am happy with what inter have done so far ... after i read the transfer news... it appears that juve are at the top with vieira transfer... its good for us coz we are going to surprise them this season (that's including milan if they get gilardino on monday...) i hate it when we appear stronger than their teams and they win the scudetto/cl and we don't.... this is much much better :)
Ryan27
07-15-2005, 12:49 AM
Well, I think its especially interesting that Juve signed Vieira cause usually they're the team that sells players that are at or near 30, not buying them (Zidane). And they already had Blasi and Appiah, who I think was just about to really come into his own but now won't get the chance. But anyway...Nedved, Emerson, and Vieira in the same midfield! Thats really not fair....
chu_chu
07-15-2005, 12:57 AM
Well, I think its especially interesting that Juve signed Vieira cause usually they're the team that sells players that are at or near 30, not buying them (Zidane). And they already had Blasi and Appiah, who I think was just about to really come into his own but now won't get the chance. But anyway...Nedved, Emerson, and Vieira in the same midfield! Thats really not fair....
yes its weird... they go for a lot of oldies... but they get the most experience players in europe... and thats why they are the most solid team currently especially with vieira and kovac signing.... pires could join juve... but i smell inter are closer to him
but seeing vieira off to juve... means arsenal might need a new defensive midfield... i would happily sacrifice davids for pires than sacrifice him for figo... maybe i'm the only one who thinks pires is a better player for inter than figo...
Ryan27
07-15-2005, 01:08 AM
Yeah, what I meant was it seems Juve have changed their policy regarding player age? They sign Cannavaro last year and Vieira and Kovac this year a few years after publicily saying that Zidane's age (29 or 30 at the time I think) was a big reason for selling him.
Pires? I suppose he'd be a better fit for Inter than Davids...but like Figo I'd just assume not get him either. I'd rather keep VDM instead of these old guys.
chu_chu
07-15-2005, 01:26 AM
Yeah, what I meant was it seems Juve have changed their policy regarding player age? They sign Cannavaro last year and Vieira and Kovac this year a few years after publicily saying that Zidane's age (29 or 30 at the time I think) was a big reason for selling him.
Pires? I suppose he'd be a better fit for Inter than Davids...but like Figo I'd just assume not get him either. I'd rather keep VDM instead of these old guys.
i also prefer vdm to play bigger role than these two... but i guess what he lacks just something that only pires or figo has... experience... and thats why we need an experience player in his position as an example to be followed... once he gets the idea... he could easily become better than these two players we are linked to....
i also prefer vdm to play bigger role than these two... but i guess what he lacks just something that only pires or figo has... experience... and thats why we need an experience player in his position as an example to be followed... once he gets the idea... he could easily become better than these two players we are linked to....
totally agree, he won't be experienced if he does not play!
go for VDM! why we need those half crappy emotional solutions or simly old sluts like Figo and Pires ;)
chu_chu
07-15-2005, 06:28 AM
totally agree, he won't be experienced if he does not play!
go for VDM! why we need those half crappy emotional solutions or simly old sluts like Figo and Pires ;)
LOL i think you replied to the wrong person zek.... ryan was the one who didn't want figo/pires... i was the one who wanted pires at inter... ;)
pires is good player for inter coz once he said he wanted to play the rest of his career at inter.... he is old... but having him won't hurt... milan still have their serginho on fire last season.... and pires was second arsenal top goal scorer... i bet he would take paycut... at least he is cheaper than davids eh? ^^
PS: see my previous post for the reason why I want experience winger like pires so badly...
GiorgioII
07-15-2005, 08:21 AM
Pires is not the type of player that we want. He is 32 now and I would rather VDM was given a chance ahead of him. Another big deal will be announced within the next four days according to my psychic ball :smoking: .
nerazzuri
07-18-2005, 02:50 PM
pires is good player for inter coz once he said he wanted to play the rest of his career at inter.... he is old... but having him won't hurt... milan still have their serginho on fire last season.... and pires was second arsenal top goal scorer... i bet he would take paycut... at least he is cheaper than davids eh? ^^
just cos he said he wants to play with us it doesn't we can get him or should get him, players talk shit all the time i remember r.carlos saying i want to go back to inter then he said i want to play for arsenal.
isn't VDM leaving? anyways i dont want neither figo or pires both 33/32 no good use so wtf!?!?
it's samuel and figo and we all know it ;)
chu_chu
07-18-2005, 11:24 PM
just cos he said he wants to play with us it doesn't we can get him or should get him, players talk shit all the time i remember r.carlos saying i want to go back to inter then he said i want to play for arsenal.
isn't VDM leaving? anyways i dont want neither figo or pires both 33/32 no good use so wtf!?!?
calm down dude ^^
lets enjoy inter whoever comes... but figo is unavoidable... its likely we end up with him....
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well i think... after milan got gilardino... it looks like this would be a two-horse race... but this can make our team unpredictable... this is the most fearsome weapon we have ;)
you'll never know what hits you if you have very strong body... but if the hit was poisonous... it doesnt matter... its an instant kill
GiorgioII
07-19-2005, 08:32 AM
Obviously Gila is going to make Milan stronger in an area where they were already formidable. They seem to possess this killer instinct on the transfer market that perhaps Inter lacks. They signed Nesta when they already had Maldini and Costacurta who were doing ok, and then added to their amazing defence with Stam. They signed Kaka when they already had Rui Costa and Rivaldo for that role and now they have done the same with Gilardino, adding him to Vieri, Sheva and Inzaghi.
However, Milan can be questioned in terms of their mental strength. They fell apart against Liverpool and their self-belieft went down the drain. The most important aspect of any team's succes is self belief and confidence. After a few years of playing catenaccio we restored our self-belief with some breath-taking performances last year and I think that this year we can challenge for Lo Scudetto. As long as we get a world class centre back, be it Samuel, Chivu or someone else, and all the rest of our big players perform to the best of their ability, we are in with a very good shot.
Sebastian
07-19-2005, 05:10 PM
calm down dude ^^
lets enjoy inter whoever comes... but figo is unavoidable... its likely we end up with him....
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well i think... after milan got gilardino... it looks like this would be a two-horse race... but this can make our team unpredictable... this is the most fearsome weapon we have ;)
you'll never know what hits you if you have very strong body... but if the hit was poisonous... it doesnt matter... its an instant kill
...do i sense pessimism???...:silly:...im kiddin...that's realistic enough man... but we can still fight...and not lose the batlle for the scudetto in te half of the season like we did last year....
chu_chu
07-19-2005, 06:09 PM
...do i sense pessimism???...:silly:...im kiddin...that's realistic enough man... but we can still fight...and not lose the batlle for the scudetto in te half of the season like we did last year....
that's true :lol:
but sometimes being weaker than others can be used as a good excuse... :)
Sebastian
07-20-2005, 10:45 PM
that's true :lol:
but sometimes being weaker than others can be used as a good excuse... :)
...perhaps the TIM victory can add some satisfaction and motivation...:evil:...i know bthat we have won tha tournament a couple of times...but hey...we newer had a left winger like SOLARI and when we sign SAMUEL and FIGO...we will be a nightmare for CAPELLO and ANCELOTTI as theyw ere last few seasons...:smoking:....
nismo
07-23-2005, 02:05 PM
that's true :lol:
but sometimes being weaker than others can be used as a good excuse... :)
Weaker teams have won competitions before, but it's the way play that shows what kind of character Inter have. I hope this season we fight for every ball and defend with 10 players. I believe we can beat Milan and Juve. In fact, we don't even have to beat them in direct encounters. If we can beat the remaining 17 teams and draw against our rivals, we could have enough points to win.
nerazzuri
07-23-2005, 03:53 PM
easier said than done, nismo. didnt we try that a few years ago with cuper?
Sebastian
07-23-2005, 04:31 PM
...all we did was talk in the pre season and we got embarassment at the wnd of it....:lol:...perhaps we should wait for every match particulary and dont mention the word SCUDETTO....:evil:...
GiorgioII
07-23-2005, 07:44 PM
...all we did was talk in the pre season and we got embarassment at the wnd of it....:lol:...perhaps we should wait for every match particulary and dont mention the word SCUDETTO....:evil:...
Yea I agree, let's be superstitious.
Ryan27
07-23-2005, 09:45 PM
Yeah, take it match by match...but we don't need to go into matches afraid of Milan and Juve. We shouldn't forget that we're Inter and have our own share of world class players in Adriano, Javier, Veron, Cordoba, Cambiasso, Recoba, etc. etc. etc. etc......
nerazzuri
07-24-2005, 07:59 AM
recoba? he'll do better than all his other seasons but i dont think he'll make fans gasp
GiorgioII
07-24-2005, 10:24 AM
recoba? he'll do better than all his other seasons but i dont think he'll make fans gasp
Recoba, not even at his best makes fans gasp a couple of times a season. If he is to surpass expectations this year, which I think he will, he will have us gasping for breath all year :D .
nismo
07-24-2005, 03:29 PM
With Vieri gone and no other striker signed, Recoba will surely get more playing time. But it'll be up to him to deliver the goods and this time avoid injuries. You know, Recoba could be the ace up our sleeve like he was in 2001/2002 and to a lesser extent in 2002/2003
GiorgioII
07-24-2005, 03:50 PM
I know Recoba can do it for us this season. I have never been so confident of anything in my life :evil: . Mancini just has to give him the chances. I actually hope that no other strikers are signed. Cruz works his ass off and has an uncanny knack of scoring against Juv which only makes my feelings for him stronger :D . Oba is very difficult to mark in Serie A, particularly for defenders who are used to the 'slower' pace of the game in Italy. Martins is a fresh type of attacker and causes trouble all the time. But it is Recoba who can be the 'ace up our sleeve' as nismo put it. Mancini just has to show some faith in him.
For the start of the season at least he has to go with this to allow Recoba to find his best form:
----------------Toldo---------------
Javier----Cordoba----Matrix----Favalli
Deki--------Veron----Cambi-----Solari
----------Recoba----Adriano---------
nismo
07-24-2005, 04:29 PM
Let's hope so Giorgio.
BTW, anyone reckons Veron should move to RW and Pizarro in the middle?
Veron--Pizarro--Cambiasso--Solari
Veron has played on the right, so it wouldn't be out of the question, and it could be a way to accomodate two playmakers? My only concern is it might not be Mancini's style of two wingers, however at Lazio he only had Cesar as the true winger, with Fiore in a Zidanesque free-role on the right. Opinions?
GiorgioII
07-24-2005, 09:50 PM
Let's hope so Giorgio.
BTW, anyone reckons Veron should move to RW and Pizarro in the middle?
Veron--Pizarro--Cambiasso--Solari
You know what, that is actually my preferred option. As long as we have one wide player, aka Solari then it is not necessary to have someone hugging the touchline on the other flank. I think that method is outdated to be honest. Veron and Deki should battle it out for that right flank position. The three best midfields will be:
Deki----Veron----Cambi----Solari
Veron----Pizarro----Cambi----Solari
Deki----Pizarro----Cambi----Solari
All of these formats are well balanced and ultra creative. Cambiasso is also the best DM in the whole of calcio so there is solidity there as well.
Ryan27
07-24-2005, 10:30 PM
Oba is very difficult to mark in Serie A, particularly for defenders who are used to the 'slower' pace of the game in Italy. Martins is a fresh type of attacker and causes trouble all the time.
You know, I've been thinking recently that Serie A is actually more difficult for a pure speedster like Martins to make his living than it would be in the EPL for example. The tempo is slower, sure, but I think that works against track stars like Martins as defenders, some of them anyway, are more skilled in negating his pace and forcing things to a speed they're more comfortable with. I'm not saying his speed isn't a factor...obviously it would be wherever he is, but I've been thinking playing in the Serie A will force Oba to develop the technical aspects of his game even further and make him a more complete player. Should Nigeria make it to Germany in '06, I think Martins could be a darkhorse in the golden boot race, should Nigeria play well enough to give him the opportunity, cause I suspect his pace will be even more decisive there along with his ever growing technical skills from playing in Italy.
Here's my midfield, where I once again suggest a free-roaming winger role for Solari, which is much better I think that forcing Veron, Stankovic, or Pizarro to play as a winger:
Cambiasso
Veron___________Pizarro
<---------------Solari--------------->
i would like to see oba on right wing some day :D haha i know it sounds funny, but damn with that speed it may look cheap but hell it might work.
nismo
07-25-2005, 08:12 AM
You know, I've been thinking recently that Serie A is actually more difficult for a pure speedster like Martins to make his living than it would be in the EPL for example. The tempo is slower, sure, but I think that works against track stars like Martins as defenders, some of them anyway, are more skilled in negating his pace and forcing things to a speed they're more comfortable with. I'm not saying his speed isn't a factor...obviously it would be wherever he is, but I've been thinking playing in the Serie A will force Oba to develop the technical aspects of his game even further and make him a more complete player. Should Nigeria make it to Germany in '06, I think Martins could be a darkhorse in the golden boot race, should Nigeria play well enough to give him the opportunity, cause I suspect his pace will be even more decisive there along with his ever growing technical skills from playing in Italy.
Here's my midfield, where I once again suggest a free-roaming winger role for Solari, which is much better I think that forcing Veron, Stankovic, or Pizarro to play as a winger:
Cambiasso
Veron___________Pizarro
<---------------Solari--------------->
I thought it would've been more flexible on either Veron or Pizarro to be given the free role ala Zidane style, with Solari operating as the archtype winger??
You know, I picked up a copy of the World Soccer magazine and they had a feature on the 20 players to make an impact in Germany. I was very pleased to find out Oba on the list :D I think Oba could indeed be the suprise striker (if Nigeria qualify). You know in the 1st leg against Milan, Stam had Oba glued like gum on a shoe, he just couldn't shake the dutchman off. However in the second leg, Oba was unfortunate not to score as he blitz the Milan defense. The difference between the 1st and 2nd leg IMO is Oba saw where he went wrong, such as taking the direct route, where as in the 2nd leg, he was smart to time his run onto thru balls and beat the offside trap. And about his technical skills, he's getting better and better, improving like Owen did playing the ball with his feet and not through it. I still have the video of Oba doing a Del-Piero style sweep, fooling 3 Bologna defenders in the process before firing the ball home :cool:
GiorgioII
07-25-2005, 10:40 AM
Ryan, I agree actually that Oba would probably find life easier in La Liga or the EPL. However his style makes him very difficult for Serie A defenders who aren't use to such venemous speed. Therefore his strength is his unpredictability. I think he is probably our only forward who can actually break the Milan defence. Adriano has had a few efforts but has been very closely marked. Oba can turn them with his speed and get us the win.
In fact against Milan I wouldn't mind trying Cruz - Oba as the strike partnership. Cruz can hold the ball up and win the balls in the air and Oba could feed off him. However I don't want to see the same fiasco as last year when Adriano was left out :lol: .
Ryan27
07-25-2005, 11:51 AM
I thought it would've been more flexible on either Veron or Pizarro to be given the free role ala Zidane style, with Solari operating as the archtype winger??
Heh, well that would work too, I was just thinking that Veron and Pizarro are less effective if they venture out to the flanks, where as Solari can handle either side. Though, based on last season, Mancini is more likely to use your idea...even if he didn't have a player like Solari back then.
Yes, watching Oba continue to develop will be exciting. Though as far as our World Cup predictions for him go, I don't think Nigeria is a sure thing to qualify if I'm remembering the standings correctly. Anyway, adding another forward of prominence would be a tragedy, to both Oba and Recoba.
BTW Giorgio, 'venemous', I like the word choice :thumbsup:. It suits both Oba and Inter (the whole snake thing) perfectly...
GiorgioII
07-25-2005, 04:35 PM
BTW Giorgio, 'venemous', I like the word choice :thumbsup:. It suits both Oba and Inter (the whole snake thing) perfectly...
Yes Ryan it was deliberate....... ;) ....... :D .
nismo
07-26-2005, 03:56 PM
Ryan, I agree actually that Oba would probably find life easier in La Liga or the EPL. However his style makes him very difficult for Serie A defenders who aren't use to such venemous speed. Therefore his strength is his unpredictability. I think he is probably our only forward who can actually break the Milan defence. Adriano has had a few efforts but has been very closely marked. Oba can turn them with his speed and get us the win.
In fact against Milan I wouldn't mind trying Cruz - Oba as the strike partnership. Cruz can hold the ball up and win the balls in the air and Oba could feed off him. However I don't want to see the same fiasco as last year when Adriano was left out :lol: .
Oba is the perfect striker for the EPL. His speed and eye for goal would see him able to play in Spain or England. You know, I'm still deciding who would be the best partner for Adriano, Recoba or Oba. With Recoba, he can really burn anyone on his day, but if it's one of those so-so days, Adriano will be isolated. Oba's relationship with Adriano both on and off the pitch means they're like best friends playing together in a highschool team, but they didn't really take my breath away as the Recoba-Adriano duo did during the rare times they played together.
My heart says to go for the Oba-Adriano combo, because I love a bandiera in the team. But my head says Recoba-Adriano duo has the potential to be the best partnership in european football.
Ryan27
07-26-2005, 06:32 PM
My heart says to go for the Oba-Adriano combo, because I love a bandiera in the team. But my head says Recoba-Adriano duo has the potential to be the best partnership in european football.
And I say just play all damn three (it doesn't necessarily have to be from the start).
Heh, but yeah, either combo or even Recoba-Martins if Adriano was unavailable, should be good. I just hope another forward isn't signed. I figure Choutos has to be good enough to be a 5th choice forward ;) .
Sebastian
07-26-2005, 08:10 PM
...if RECOBA gets one mnore chanse and he's played regulary i dont want another striker...but we all know that he wont be used as we want...:rolleyes:...so...it's hard to predict what will happen...
Ryan27
07-27-2005, 12:16 AM
...if RECOBA gets one mnore chanse and he's played regulary i dont want another striker...but we all know that he wont be used as we want...:rolleyes:...so...it's hard to predict what will happen...
Oh I know...somehow I just see him getting screwed over again. Either that or Mancini will start to play him and he'll get hurt again :depressed . I got my fingers crossed in hopes that this is finally his year at Inter :Pray:
Anyway, its official that Davids will join Tottenham on a free transfer. At least we're getting him off the wage bill.
nismo
07-31-2005, 05:31 AM
And I say just play all damn three (it doesn't necessarily have to be from the start).
Heh, but yeah, either combo or even Recoba-Martins if Adriano was unavailable, should be good. I just hope another forward isn't signed. I figure Choutos has to be good enough to be a 5th choice forward ;) .
Miccoli or Milito could be signed as the 5th striker, but with Choutos's form in pre-season, he could be our reserve. At least he knows the situation and would be willingly to play a peripheral role.
You know, at the beginning of the transfer market, I thought we would make very few signings. A centreback and a midfielder was all I was expecting. Now we're one of the busiest teams in the market!!! Although I guess we do have to into account the departures, but it's just funny reading the directors' comments that they won't destablise a team which gelled together in the latter half, only to go a buy and be linked with 5 players :D I hope the core of the team: Toldo, J.Zanetti, Cordoba, Cambiasso, Veron and Adriano remain in Mancini's plans because they showed to be the nucleus of the side in defense, midfield and attack.
evilmact
07-31-2005, 05:59 AM
You know, at the beginning of the transfer market, I thought we would make very few signings. A centreback and a midfielder was all I was expecting. Now we're one of the busiest teams in the market!!!
I thought the same, but I'm hoping those things of Milito and Miccoli are only false rumours, like many others have been. :rolleyes:
nerazzuri
07-31-2005, 03:10 PM
this is a crazy idea of mine but what about this formation
4-1-4-1
---------------toldo---------------
javier--cordoba------samuel--wome
------------cambiasso-------------
figo-----veron------pizarro--stanko
--------------adriano-------------
i thought of this cos i remember bayer leverkusen playin with it once. 4 creative players supporting a world class striker :mad2:
GiorgioII
07-31-2005, 03:15 PM
this is a crazy idea of mine but what about this formation
4-1-4-1
---------------toldo---------------
javier--cordoba------samuel--wome
------------cambiasso-------------
figo-----veron------pizarro--stanko
--------------adriano-------------
i thought of this cos i remember bayer leverkusen playin with it once. 4 creative players supporting a world class striker :mad2:
I like the team for the fact that it has a load of world class players in it and there is not one player in there that I dislike. However, I don't know how effective it would be. For a start, Pizarro and Veron are both better at creating from deep positions. I am sure that they could do a job playing as more offensive fantasistas, but they both prefer to sit deep and play long balls and set the tempo of the team. From a more advanced position they will not be able to have the impact that they both like.
Ryan27
07-31-2005, 10:15 PM
You know, at the beginning of the transfer market, I thought we would make very few signings. A centreback and a midfielder was all I was expecting. Now we're one of the busiest teams in the market!!! Although I guess we do have to into account the departures, but it's just funny reading the directors' comments that they won't destablise a team which gelled together in the latter half, only to go a buy and be linked with 5 players :D I hope the core of the team: Toldo, J.Zanetti, Cordoba, Cambiasso, Veron and Adriano remain in Mancini's plans because they showed to be the nucleus of the side in defense, midfield and attack.
When it comes to the transfer market, Inter are like a family of fat people in a buffet line.
GiorgioII
08-01-2005, 09:17 AM
When it comes to the transfer market, Inter are like a family of fat people in a buffet line.
Percect similie, just perfect :lol: .
When it comes to the transfer market, Inter are like a family of fat people in a buffet line.
:silly:
this is a crazy idea of mine but what about this formation
4-1-4-1
---------------toldo---------------
javier--cordoba------samuel--wome
------------cambiasso-------------
figo-----veron------pizarro--stanko
--------------adriano-------------
i thought of this cos i remember bayer leverkusen playin with it once. 4 creative players supporting a world class striker :mad2:
we should try this especially against weak defensive teams to make sure that we beat them up not draw and see if this will work on a longer run
GiorgioII
08-01-2005, 06:14 PM
we should try this especially against weak defensive teams to make sure that we beat them up not draw and see if this will work on a longer run
I think against weak defensive teams we should pack the forward department, not limit it.
----Recoba-----
Oba------Adriano
If that cannot destroy the likes of Torino and Genoa then I don't know what will :lol: . (That is if their promotion is granted of course).
evilmact
08-02-2005, 04:51 AM
this is a crazy idea of mine but what about this formation
4-1-4-1
---------------toldo---------------
javier--cordoba------samuel--wome
------------cambiasso-------------
figo-----veron------pizarro--stanko
--------------adriano-------------
i thought of this cos i remember bayer leverkusen playin with it once. 4 creative players supporting a world class striker :mad2:
I prefer this one :evil:
---------------toldo---------------
javier--cordoba----samuel--wome
figo-----veron--cambiasso--solari/kily
-------------stanko/recoba--------
------------martins---adriano-------
nismo
08-02-2005, 06:50 AM
I think Samuel should be our last signing. The CL qualifiers are arund the corner and Inter would want Figo to be included before then.
However if Figo does join, I can't decide on:
Figo-Veron-Cambiasso-Solari
or
Veron-Pizarro-Cambiasso-Solaei
Figo isn't the 2001 player, but he still has somthing to offer. Although Pizarro has emerged as our best player so far during pre-season and could be the buy-of-the-season. So many choices!!!!
Ryan27
08-02-2005, 08:19 AM
I prefer this one :evil:
---------------toldo---------------
javier--cordoba----samuel--wome
figo-----veron--cambiasso--solari/kily
-------------stanko/recoba--------
------------martins---adriano-------
Is it just me, or is that a starting 12 rather than starting 11? Maybe i'm just not looking at it right lol.
Ryan27
08-02-2005, 08:22 AM
I think Samuel should be our last signing.
Yeah, I sure hope that is the case. The absolute only player I would want at this point (assuming Chivu is an impossibility) is Kompany, and that would be a luxury signing and I do not expect it to happen at all. I'm very worried that Inter will sign Corradi or something and mess everything up in the attack.
GiorgioII
08-02-2005, 08:36 AM
Yeah, we have got the player that we need and now it is time for Moratti to go and screw things up in another area of the pitch. I think we can expect Di Vaio or Corradi or some other forward who has little to contribute. The team is fine now and we should only add to it if the player in question is world class or has world class potential like Kompany who Ryan mentioned.
nismo
08-02-2005, 10:41 AM
Yeah, I sure hope that is the case. The absolute only player I would want at this point (assuming Chivu is an impossibility) is Kompany, and that would be a luxury signing and I do not expect it to happen at all. I'm very worried that Inter will sign Corradi or something and mess everything up in the attack.
I said this before, but Inter are fine in attack IMO Unless Corradi or whoever are willingly to be 5th choice striker. Otherwise we have Choutos who might as well be involved in the squad just to make up the numbers.
brandes leonid
08-02-2005, 12:48 PM
You seem to be not updated ebough.
There are not so new strong(hintelly confirmed actually, did I make up a new word in English?) that ACM signed with Bruge on a 1st rights on Kompany, means that if ACM wants, they'll sign him next summer no matter what bid other teams make unless the bid is higher than some specific number.
ACMs' represantative was in Belgium and said AVM will soon have to change gradually their deffence.
You seem to be not updated ebough.
There are not so new strong(hintelly confirmed actually, did I make up a new word in English?) that ACM signed with Bruge on a 1st rights on Kompany, means that if ACM wants, they'll sign him next summer no matter what bid other teams make unless the bid is higher than some specific number.
ACMs' represantative was in Belgium and said AVM will soon have to change gradually their deffence.
and then they'll have to spend few seasons tuning their defence. remember what happened to them in late 90's when Baresi retired :smoking:
Ryan27
08-02-2005, 01:48 PM
You seem to be not updated ebough.
There are not so new strong(hintelly confirmed actually, did I make up a new word in English?) that ACM signed with Bruge on a 1st rights on Kompany, means that if ACM wants, they'll sign him next summer no matter what bid other teams make unless the bid is higher than some specific number.
ACMs' represantative was in Belgium and said AVM will soon have to change gradually their deffence.
I actually had seen that before (and its Anderlecht, not Brugge), but not at a site I considered reputable enough to take too seriously. Anyway, true or not, I'm not going to worry about it. Who knows whats going to happen within the next year and new prospects might emerge. And I remember not too long ago Inter also had a partnership with Anderlecht that fell apart fairly quickly.
brandes leonid
08-02-2005, 05:40 PM
Zek, I hope so. Let's also hope that we'll utilize it to catch a success wave instead of waiting for ACM to catch that wave, because that's what heppenned in the last time.
Ryan, a Belgium friend told me that. It's appeared quite a lot in the local sport newspapers.
It's not my false that the gazzetta and other big magazines don't take seriousely the local little sport magazines.
More than that- Kompany's father assured there was a meeting and he said he doesn't want to add anything more and that Vicente need to finish his studying first.
evilmact
08-03-2005, 06:41 AM
Is it just me, or is that a starting 12 rather than starting 11? Maybe i'm just not looking at it right lol.
:silly: lol, It was too good to be true :lol:
hmm, then I prefer to maintain the midfield as it is
stanko----veron---cambiasso---solari/kily
Let's wait to see what happens with figo, I only hope he doesn't cause any trouble :worried:
nerazzuri
08-03-2005, 02:16 PM
i also remember readin kompany sayin he wouldn't like to join a italian club
Ryan27
08-04-2005, 02:12 AM
:silly: lol, It was too good to be true :lol:
haha, well i think everone would agree that a 4-4-1-2 would be an ideal formation and better than a 4-4-2 :p
schillaci1990
08-04-2005, 05:22 AM
I think that the best idea for Inter is to throw out all these notions about respect and all that jazz......if they want to win I think they should play the following formation
Toldo/Cesar(yes he is young, but Toldo isn't
what he once was)
Javier Zanetti Materazzi Samuel Cordoba
Figo Cambiasso Pizarro Stankovic
Veron
Adriano
Personally....I don't think Wome will cut it at left back...he hasn't done anything to prove otherwise....Milan has Maldini/Kaladze, Juve had Thuram, and we play Wome??....just plain stupid. Cordoba was originally a left-back and I could see him play there again. Also, Solari can play at left-back. I think Materazzi is instrumental.....I know that Samuel can handle the "strong forwards".....but really Juve has two (Ibrahimovic/Trezeguet) and Milan has two (Vieri/Gilardino).....I think Marco will have a big year....Cordoba's speed makes him a great wing back. In the middle I think playing 5 is the best option....Inter is rich in midfield talent and knowing that Kily, Solari, and C. Zanetti can come off the bench and contribute is a plus. Up front, other than Adriano i'm sceptacle about each forward. Martins is still a little raw and must improve his control and learn to be a bit more patient on the ball. Cruz is an in and out player and when he is on he is great but Inter cannot afford to have him play an off game against one of the big 3. Recoba is great...if he can only stay healthy. Inter has a legitimate chance at Lo Scudetto, and let's hope that they end the curse.....and oh yeah.....Forza Toto Schillaci!! Per sempre!
nismo
08-04-2005, 05:24 AM
haha, well i think everone would agree that a 4-4-1-2 would be an ideal formation and better than a 4-4-2 :p
I think it's happened a few times before in football, where the player subbed off didn't come off, and his replacement went on, thus giving the side 1 man extra.
I think against weak defensive teams we should pack the forward department, not limit it.
----Recoba-----
Oba------Adriano
If that cannot destroy the likes of Torino and Genoa then I don't know what will :lol: . (That is if their promotion is granted of course).
:D in some cases our forwards just stay thirsty for good passing, that's why I thought closing down opposition all over the half without any single chance even for counter attack on mostly away games... But yes the logical solution is to play with 1 supporting and 2 strikers :rockon:
nismo
08-04-2005, 02:01 PM
Would anyone here put Figo in their starting line-up??
Figo has joined Inter Milan! Congratulations and good luck
Would anyone here put Figo in their starting line-up??
:silly:
Massimo
08-05-2005, 01:11 PM
Would anyone here put Figo in their starting line-up??
This reminds me of Cambiasso... When he joined us only a few of us (If any at all for that matter) knew he would capture David's place in the starting line-up...He really proved all the sceptics wrong.... :smoking:
Now with Figo the idea is quite the same...Coming from Real to perform in Italy for the first time....His place in the starting line-up is obviously not secured yet...With Stankovic fighting for it as well....although there is still some hope for him as Andy VDM is expected to leave...He wasn't inluded in Mancini's list of player for the forthcoming CL clash...(Coco isn't also btw...)
From a personal view...I would like to see him perform mostly in the CL (If we indeed qualify) because there he can give the team something from his abundant experience. :smoking:
nerazzuri
08-05-2005, 01:58 PM
Would anyone here put Figo in their starting line-up??
i would, its not as though his lost his touch, in fact, theres not much of a diff between 2000 figo and current figo. his had the same determination at lisbon and he's very experienced
figo-veron-cambiasso-stanko
nerazzuri
08-05-2005, 02:11 PM
I think that the best idea for Inter is to throw out all these notions about respect and all that jazz......if they want to win I think they should play the following formation
Toldo/Cesar(yes he is young, but Toldo isn't
what he once was)
Javier Zanetti Materazzi Samuel Cordoba
Figo Cambiasso Pizarro Stankovic
Veron
Adriano
Personally....I don't think Wome will cut it at left back...he hasn't done anything to prove otherwise....Milan has Maldini/Kaladze, Juve had Thuram, and we play Wome??....just plain stupid. Cordoba was originally a left-back and I could see him play there again. Also, Solari can play at left-back. I think Materazzi is instrumental.....I know that Samuel can handle the "strong forwards".....but really Juve has two (Ibrahimovic/Trezeguet) and Milan has two (Vieri/Gilardino).....I think Marco will have a big year....Cordoba's speed makes him a great wing back. In the middle I think playing 5 is the best option....Inter is rich in midfield talent and knowing that Kily, Solari, and C. Zanetti can come off the bench and contribute is a plus. Up front, other than Adriano i'm sceptacle about each forward. Martins is still a little raw and must improve his control and learn to be a bit more patient on the ball. Cruz is an in and out player and when he is on he is great but Inter cannot afford to have him play an off game against one of the big 3. Recoba is great...if he can only stay healthy. Inter has a legitimate chance at Lo Scudetto, and let's hope that they end the curse.....and oh yeah.....Forza Toto Schillaci!! Per sempre!
i agree with u playin with 5 mids.
-----pizarro-cambiasso-veron-----
figo------------------------stanko
-------------adriano-------------
sayin wome has not proven anything doesn't mean he's shit, his played with bescia, espanyol and shitty other clubs but what can they offer? africans r known to give 110%.
cruz IMO the most consistent player he always does good but recoba is consistently inconsistent and martins is a bit inexperience
evilmact
08-06-2005, 04:41 AM
Would anyone here put Figo in their starting line-up??
Yes, in a 5 man midfield
Figo----Veron/Pizarro---Cambiasso---Kily/Solari
-----------------Stanko/Kara-----------------
Figo has joined Inter Milan! Congratulations and good luck
Yes, Good luck Figo, but I hope you understand there is one greek player that deserves to play too. I hope Mancini finds a way to make them all play.
BTW, I think number 7 was of Van der Meyde :rolleyes:, now is for sure he'll leave... and this will be the best for him and Inter.
JoeJAMMY
08-06-2005, 05:14 AM
This Season...
JoeJAMMY
08-06-2005, 05:20 AM
This season....
-------------------Toldo---------------
J.Zanetti--- Samuel--- Cordoba--- Wome
---------------Cambiasso--------------
----Figo-------Veron------------Solari/Stanko--
-----------Adriano----Recoba-----------
Veron said he is gonna leave after this year and toldo will prolly fall down the pecking order and Martins & Budisso should mature more...
Next next Season.....
---------------J.Cesar-------------------
J.Zanetti---Samuel---Burdisso---Cordoba-
--------------Cambiasso-----------------
--Figo(maybe)--------------Solari/Stanko-
-----------------Pizarro------------------
-------Adriano------Martins--------------
Our Team Has alot of talent for now and tomorrow .. i just hope We dont get too transfer happy in the coming years if everythign is going good..
RaulMadrid7
08-06-2005, 06:32 AM
This season....
-------------------Toldo---------------
J.Zanetti--- Samuel--- Cordoba--- Wome
---------------Cambiasso--------------
----Figo-------Veron------------Solari/Stanko--
-----------Adriano----Recoba-----------
Veron said he is gonna leave after this year and toldo will prolly fall down the pecking order and Martins & Budisso should mature more...
Next next Season.....
---------------J.Cesar-------------------
J.Zanetti---Samuel---Burdisso---Cordoba-
--------------Cambiasso-----------------
--Figo(maybe)--------------Solari/Stanko-
-----------------Pizarro------------------
-------Adriano------Martins--------------
Our Team Has alot of talent for now and tomorrow .. i just hope We dont get too transfer happy in the coming years if everythign is going good..
I like the squads you made especially the first one, but the formations for next season is very hard to determine, especially with a team like Inter, I doubt Inter will go without any new very good player during both teh January market and the next Summer market, so it's very highly unpredictable.
And yes Veron will leave, and I wouldn't count on Figo to stay for a very long time either but I have a feeling this ideaology will change once the season begins and we see Figo playing.
GiorgioII
08-06-2005, 08:23 AM
This season....
-------------------Toldo---------------
J.Zanetti--- Samuel--- Cordoba--- Wome
---------------Cambiasso--------------
----Figo-------Veron------------Solari/Stanko--
-----------Adriano----Recoba-----------
I too think it is too early to predict the team for next season. But Cesar should be our first choice Keeper by then. I love this team although I would put a slash next to Recoba with Martins. A slash next to Veron with Pizarro(and the same with Figo) and a slash next to Wome with Favalli.
JoeJAMMY
08-06-2005, 04:02 PM
I really hope that Burdisso & Cesar dont flop they are one for the years coming. Serie A is gonna be very very competitive this season for top 3 and for those under the 3. Everyone is stacking up unlike epl where Chelski is only buying at excessive prices.
nismo
08-07-2005, 07:12 AM
I really hope that Burdisso & Cesar dont flop they are one for the years coming. Serie A is gonna be very very competitive this season for top 3 and for those under the 3. Everyone is stacking up unlike epl where Chelski is only buying at excessive prices.
Speaking of Burdisso, anyone know what's happened to him? Will he be with us this season or will he be loaned out?
I don't if Cesar will flop, he needs to play in order to find out how good (or bad) he is :D I think Toldo will retain the no1 spot still.
GiorgioII
08-07-2005, 08:28 AM
Speaking of Burdisso, anyone know what's happened to him? Will he be with us this season or will he be loaned out?
I don't if Cesar will flop, he needs to play in order to find out how good (or bad) he is :D I think Toldo will retain the no1 spot still.
Burdisso is still in Argentina I think with his sick son.
Cesar will be a success I think. He is full of confidence and I love the way he wears that cap :D .
nismo
08-07-2005, 02:53 PM
Burdisso is still in Argentina I think with his sick son.
Cesar will be a success I think. He is full of confidence and I love the way he wears that cap :D .
I have a feeling they'll be something of a rivalry between Julio Cesar and Dida much akin to Lehmann and Kahn. That's if Julio is given the opportunity to play.
I have a feeling they'll be something of a rivalry between Julio Cesar and Dida much akin to Lehmann and Kahn. That's if Julio is given the opportunity to play.
burdisso is playing with boca right now, i dont think he'll be here for a while, december market at the soonest, it all depends how it goes with his family, inter's injuries, etc. if wome doesnt pan out, or mancini gets tired of favalli, then i think we could hear from him very soon, lets not forget that he played every position on the defence.....he just made a dumb mistake on his first chance in the starting lineup and then he lost confidence and mancini never gave him an another oportunity, but he has a lot of mental toughness and im 100 percent sure that next time he is given a chance he will take advantage of it......
evilmact
08-08-2005, 07:37 PM
Inter: No More Arrivals
8/8/2005 11:18:00 AM
Inter president Giacinto Facchetti says the club will not be signing any more players after the numerous arrivals at the San Siro this summer.
Luis Figo, Walter Samuel, Santi Solari, David Pizarro and Pierre Wome have all been signed as Inter look to close ground on Juventus and Milan.
"Our shopping spree is over for this summer," said Facchetti. "We do hope to sell a few players though."
Francesco Coco is expected to join Newcastle, Andy van der Meyde has been linked with a move elsewhere, and Cristiano Zanetti is a target for Juventus.
http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=78613&idSez=16
This are great news for me.... except the one about Cristiano :worried:
nismo
08-09-2005, 09:08 AM
With Davids gone, C.Zanetti staying is even more important as back up to Cambiasso. But if C.Zanentti is selected in the CL qualifers he'll be cup tied which won't make him appealing on the market. Let's hope Mancini picks him.
GiorgioII
08-09-2005, 09:31 AM
Let's hope Mancini picks him.
He's in the squad. Ideally we want him to play a few mins as a sub. Although away from home against Shaktar the benefits of playing with two DM's in CZ and Cambiasso could be huge.
nismo
08-09-2005, 04:02 PM
He can play 30 seconds!! But the important thing is he comes on. If he doesn't, it could send some sort of signal that we're ready to deal :(
schillaci1990
08-09-2005, 09:23 PM
I agree.....C.Zanetti is important in the unfortunate scenario that Cambiasso goes down. In shaktar he can prove useful if Inter wants to hold a lead or draw in the second half. As far as Inter being done with transfers....i'll only believe it after the last day has passed.....they did this to us during the whole Ronaldo saga, so who is to say it won't happen again....personally i think Inter should splash some cash on Cassano....imagine Cassano and Adriano upfront......No one would touch us for Lo Scudetto, but this is obviously a pipe dream...
Schillaci per sempre!
nerazzuri
08-15-2005, 10:42 AM
i'd rather play karagounis than cristiano. he's nothing, just a ball winner he can't progress any further(attacking terms)
evilmact
08-15-2005, 06:10 PM
I have no problems with that, that's Zanetti's function: to win balls in the midfield, I'm not interested if he can assist or make goals, I just want him to win balls. We have only 2 DM, so we must keep him.
Kara can also play in that position, but C.Zanetti is better than him defending. I'd use Kara in other roles.
devious
08-16-2005, 08:58 PM
We have a deadly team, I m so glad Moratti made all beautiful transfers!! I hope this year will be ours :)
GiorgioII
08-16-2005, 09:07 PM
We have a deadly team, I m so glad Moratti made all beautiful transfers!! I hope this year will be ours :)
Ramy, my friend, you have no idea how relieved I am to see you back, I feared for the worst after the recent terrorist attacks, thank God you are ok. I even contacted the Embassy, thankyou for returning :) .
devious
08-16-2005, 09:56 PM
Ramy, my friend, you have no idea how relieved I am to see you back, I feared for the worst after the recent terrorist attacks, thank God you are ok. I even contacted the Embassy, thankyou for returning :) .
thanks man! I have no words to say!! I so glad to return too :)
lets win big titles this year.. shall we? ;)
GiorgioII
08-17-2005, 08:56 AM
thanks man! I have no words to say!! I so glad to return too :)
lets win big titles this year.. shall we? ;)
Of course devious, let's do it......and we will :D .
devious
08-17-2005, 12:12 PM
Of course devious, let's do it......and we will :D .
NO DOUBT ;)
nismo
08-18-2005, 09:10 AM
I have no problems with that, that's Zanetti's function: to win balls in the midfield, I'm not interested if he can assist or make goals, I just want him to win balls. We have only 2 DM, so we must keep him.
Kara can also play in that position, but C.Zanetti is better than him defending. I'd use Kara in other roles.
Yes, Kara's versatility will help the team in times of injuries. He's a very underrated player IMO. I'm glad he wasn't sold off.
devious
08-18-2005, 03:22 PM
Yes, Kara's versatility will help the team in times of injuries. He's a very underrated player IMO. I'm glad he wasn't sold off.
me too.. he is an excellent player, he is the Europe champion and he dont mind to be a bench player for Inter, he is a player that desrve more respect more than the capitano himself IMO.
nismo
08-19-2005, 06:43 AM
me too.. he is an excellent player, he is the Europe champion and he dont mind to be a bench player for Inter, he is a player that desrve more respect more than the capitano himself IMO.
whoa whoa, let's not go that far :D Javier Zanetti refused a move to Real Madrid where he would've won the european cup and league, and chose to stay and fight on at Inter. Kara deserves more respect than he gets, but I still respect JZ more, for refusing individual trophy medals and choosing to win with Inter.
devious
08-19-2005, 02:29 PM
whoa whoa, let's not go that far :D Javier Zanetti refused a move to Real Madrid where he would've won the european cup and league, and chose to stay and fight on at Inter. Kara deserves more respect than he gets, but I still respect JZ more, for refusing individual trophy medals and choosing to win with Inter.
yeah, I didnt ment to go that far, but I think you know what I mean.
devious
11-12-2005, 04:54 PM
now elcapitano is back and fit :D
I think we should play with this:
--------------------Cesar (Toldo :rolleyes: )-----------------
JZ:D----------Samuel--------------Cordoba------------Wome
-------------------------Cambiasso-------------------------
-------------Veron-----------------------Stankovic---------
----------------------------Figo----------------------------
--------------Adriano-----------------Recoba---------------
stefan99
11-12-2005, 07:33 PM
Wome above Favalli??
devious
11-12-2005, 07:49 PM
Wome above Favalli??
ye yes indeed. Favalli is so slow, he is one of the weakest points in Inter, Wome is fast, can play and shoot with both feet.
stefan99
11-12-2005, 07:51 PM
ye yes indeed. Favalli is so slow, he is one of the weakest points in Inter, Wome is fast, can play and shoot with both feet.
But Wome gives the ball away very cheaply in dangerous positions on quite a few occasions.
Quixote
11-12-2005, 08:09 PM
Favalli and Wome are both average I think. Favalli has the advantage of experience + he's Italian. Wome is more athletic. But this is football not 100 m sprint. ;)
Anyway I would definitely invest in a left back next year. (btw, I thought Coco was a loss for Inter, he always played with heart, when not injured or jet-skiing with his beautiful girlfriend :) ).
About the diamond formation: I'd be happy for Mancio to try that, as all the "best" players would then be lined up together. But I've always found it a difficult formation to use because of it's lack of wings, which demands that the fullbacks play offencively and that the strikers go wide.
Adriano would be wasted on the wing, and Zanetti running forward with Veron supposed to back him up will not work I think. Veron needs to play freely to give his best. So does Stanko. That would leave Cambiasso with huge responsability. I know he did it at Real but look what happened to them... :ronaldo:
Also if you have two ball winners, that would free up Veron + the fullbacks, who could run forward more safely. In that case I'd also put Solari on as left wingback. That would settle the Favalli/Wome dilemma. :D
But in any case that diamond would be a huge improvement to the current non-tacticts... :doh:
Quixote
11-12-2005, 08:44 PM
Looking far (too far?) ahead to next season I wonder what you guys think should be the base of players Inter must keep?
I would say:
GK: Cesar
D: Samuel, Cordoba, Burdisso, Materazzi( :shocked: )
WB: Capitan
DM: Cambiasso, Zanetti
M: Pizarro
AM: Solari, Stankovic, Figo (one more season in his legs?)
F: Adriano, Recoba, Martins
With many older players, many underachieving, Veron leaving, Cruz at the end of contract etc. It will -again- be a busy summer for sure.
But that is a good solid base! Some are getting on in years (Zanetti, Figo etc.) so youth is a priority I guess.
But back to the formation of this season: Why is Solari hardly ever used? When he played for Real (where he also was a benchwarmer) he always played very well whenever he got his chance.
So what do you think: Solari, underused?
Ryan27
11-12-2005, 08:52 PM
But Wome gives the ball away very cheaply in dangerous positions on quite a few occasions.
he sure does...but he's shown in the past (like last season for example) that he can be very effective with good runs and some crisp passing. I don't see Inter having that much to lose by playing him so he can get his self-belief again. Mancini sure likes Favalli though...
Ryan27
11-12-2005, 08:55 PM
now elcapitano is back and fit :D
I think he has been fit for a little while now. I mean I think he just played the whole 90 minutes vs. England! I'm not joking this time, I really think Mancini might have played Cordoba at rightback out of preference or as a 'tactical' decision.
devious
11-12-2005, 08:57 PM
I think he has been fit for a little while now. I mean I think he just played the whole 90 minutes vs. England! I'm not joking this time, I really think Mancini might have played Cordoba at rightback out of preference or as a 'tactical' decision.
that`s just greaaaaaaaaaaaaat!! :lol: :lol:, I mean this would be the joke of the year!! :D
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ryan27
11-12-2005, 09:01 PM
Adriano would be wasted on the wing, and Zanetti running forward with Veron supposed to back him up will not work I think. Veron needs to play freely to give his best. So does Stanko. That would leave Cambiasso with huge responsability. I know he did it at Real but look what happened to them... :ronaldo:
I don't think it matters what formation you use, Adriano will always drift out wide. I just watched him do it over and over for Brazil against UAE. He can't help but do it; I think its in his instincts as a former winger. And I don't think devious means to restrict Veron or Dejan in any way. They're both underrated defensively and would be fine in a diamond. You are right though about needing fullbacks that push up...
Quixote
11-12-2005, 09:39 PM
I don't think it matters what formation you use, Adriano will always drift out wide. I just watched him do it over and over for Brazil against UAE. He can't help but do it; I think its in his instincts as a former winger. And I don't think devious means to restrict Veron or Dejan in any way. They're both underrated defensively and would be fine in a diamond. You are right though about needing fullbacks that push up...
How did Adriano play overall? Focused?
I guess you're right about Veron and Stankovic, they would be good as half-wings. It's just I find it a pity to have a player of Veron's quality and not use him as a real playmaker. And like you said, the fullbacks are a problem. Sometimes I think they should play a three man defence instead of forcing a 442 out of the team, something like:
Cordoba-Materazzi-Samuel
Capitan-Cambiasso-Solari
Veron
Figo-Adriano-Recoba
A Marcelo Bielsa style 3313 with lots of wing action and creative options.
But that's not realistic as it's too much work to adapt to such tactics mid-season.
It's easier to just play Zé and Wome as "wingers" and hope Mihajlovic scores the winner :loco:
How did Adriano play overall? Focused?
I guess you're right about Veron and Stankovic, they would be good as half-wings. It's just I find it a pity to have a player of Veron's quality and not use him as a real playmaker. And like you said, the fullbacks are a problem. Sometimes I think they should play a three man defence instead of forcing a 442 out of the team, something like:
Cordoba-Materazzi-Samuel
Capitan-Cambiasso-Solari
Veron
Figo-Adriano-Recoba
A Marcelo Bielsa style 3313 with lots of wing action and creative options.
But that's not realistic as it's too much work to adapt to such tactics mid-season.
It's easier to just play Zé and Wome as "wingers" and hope Mihajlovic scores the winner :loco:
:lol:
UAE was very cheap so we could not expect Brasilians to be as concentrated as English were against Argentine. Adriano was not much different from what he is at Inter, but differently here there was no need for him to be different... But, Ryan's correct he kept drifting around, perhaps he's used to it by now. Next year, we will see how Parreira play him. The guy likes discipline, Adriano will do what Parreira wants him to do.
and yesterday Turkey tried to play something like 4-3-2-1 and 3-4-3 and similar tactics and were torn apart by Swiss... Formation you suggest is a bit risky to implement at this point of time, but on the other hand why not to risk? We have good players and all the coach needs to do is to set them in the right positioning on the pitch, so there won't be much empty spaces when they play.
Sorry, yesterday I was so frustrated seeing how a good Turkey squad was helpless thanks to Terim's formation and player selection...
Ryan27
11-14-2005, 07:00 AM
Sorry, yesterday I was so frustrated seeing how a good Turkey squad was helpless thanks to Terim's formation and player selection...
At least it should make for a very interesting second leg...
Quixote
11-14-2005, 12:59 PM
Mancini goes for 433 formation!!! :shocked: :whoo: :Party:
... in a friendly :rolleyes: ... against Lugano :dontcare:
Toldo
Andreolli-Cordoba-Burdisso-Wome
Pizzaro-Zanetti-Veron
Figo-Martins-Solari
Inter 4:0 Lugano (goals: Pizarro, Figox2, Martins)
Next game is Parma, so it'll probably be back to the usual "tactics". :tsk:
Come on Mancio, prove us wrong this time! Show some cojones for once...
:fed-up:
At least it should make for a very interesting second leg...
as my boss says 'Turkey was illusional'... they have to eat the grass and do miracles to beat Swiss team... Turkey was terrible, they had nothing working apart form Goalie
Ryan27
11-17-2005, 10:55 AM
as my boss says 'Turkey was illusional'... they have to eat the grass and do miracles to beat Swiss team... Turkey was terrible, they had nothing working apart form Goalie
I didn't get to see the second leg. Losing on 'away' goals is the absolute worst way to go down though, so I feel bad for Turkey. Seems like the game was an exciting one though.
we have not toched this thread for quite a while - since November last year!!! it's still sticky though...
maybe because we dicussed most of the issues in Mancini's tactical ups and downs :silly:
but that thread has not been touched since February - maybe because we all consider Mancini's case as hopeless :sad:
so what do we do now? merge those two threads to create another superthread or start posting here?
my formation is:
-----------------Toldo----------
JZ----------Samuel-----Burdisso-----Grosso
-----------------Pizzaro---------------
------------Cambiasso----Stankovic-----
(Figo)--------------(Figo)-----------(Figo)
-------------Adriano-----Cruz------------
the essence is to allow Jz and Grosso working acrros the line just like Brazi NT wingbacks (Cafu&Carlos)
try Pizzaro in Pirlo type position to begin with, that will give him a bit more protection from tackling. If he falls down to long passes let him just move around and choose wherever he likes to play (could even be AMC)
Cambiasso and Stankovic to cover midfield, both are hardworking, Stankovic has a good driblling, flair and creativity - can show his skills better while being in the middle with some moves to wings, whenever appropriate to add width to our attack.
Figo may drift behind strikers choosing weak LBs and doing his crosses, so I put him everywhere behind strikers.
as for strikers - no other options available, I guess we all trashed Recoba and Cruz deserves to start, otherwise we let Martins do it.
Unfortunately for me such formation requires a lot of tactical work and synchronised activities from the team, which means Mancini shall work hard to deliver this, personal view - he is not capable. Such system will also require more movements (dynamic game), something that modern football dictates, but most of italian teams tend to forget especially Inter. We often do not move enough to create more space and width for attack.
that's basically it, hope to relive this thread :smoking:
King Adriano
06-07-2006, 11:57 AM
Zek this is just a good formation but u only dropped one thing.
Pizzaro isn't that type of defensive so u must cover him first.
u can put
...................... Cambiasso ............... Stankovic ............................
.......................................Pizzaro ..............................................
Pirlo got experience which made him play freely as a DM without covering but i just think Pizarro will take time first 2 gain experience and 2 deal with the formation.
Ryan27
06-07-2006, 07:58 PM
king adriano, Pizarro played the way Zek is suggesting a lot at Udinese. If anything, he has more experience as a deep playmaker than as one sitting behind the forwards.
GiorgioII
06-07-2006, 07:59 PM
With the players currently available I would stick to the regular 4-4-2. But I like Zek's formation a lot. I am not Pizarro's greatest fan, but he would do well in that role. He often sits quite deep for us anyway and can really do well there I think as a playmaker. I would prefer someone else though to takeover Veron's role. We need to realise that titles are won by the midfields not by attacks and defence and currently ours isn't strong enough:
------------------Toldo---------------
Maicon----Cordoba----Samuel----Grosso
J.Zanetti---Dacourt----Cambiasso--Deki
------------Recoba----Adriano---------
With new additions things could change though. I think 4 players are needed on top of Maicon, Maxwell, Grosso and Dacourt who are almost certain to arrive: a DM, an AM a CB and a striker. De Rossi, Riquelme, Toni and Bonera..........:smoking: . We can all dream.
King Adriano
06-07-2006, 11:06 PM
With the players currently available I would stick to the regular 4-4-2. But I like Zek's formation a lot. I am not Pizarro's greatest fan, but he would do well in that role. He often sits quite deep for us anyway and can really do well there I think as a playmaker. I would prefer someone else though to takeover Veron's role. We need to realise that titles are won by the midfields not by attacks and defence and currently ours isn't strong enough:
------------------Toldo---------------
Maicon----Cordoba----Samuel----Grosso
J.Zanetti---Dacourt----Cambiasso--Deki
------------Recoba----Adriano---------
With new additions things could change though. I think 4 players are needed on top of Maicon, Maxwell, Grosso and Dacourt who are almost certain to arrive: a DM, an AM a CB and a striker. De Rossi, Riquelme, Toni and Bonera..........:smoking: . We can all dream.
the 4 players u mentioned Giorgio are great options and they aren't dreams cause Inter are in heavy links with them and should sign at least 2 of them but the only one who seem impossible is De Rossi.
we can get Bonera and Toni so easy and talks will remain on Riquelme cause if teams like Man UTD and Real Madrid got on the line with him we will just be out of the game for him.
With the players currently available I would stick to the regular 4-4-2. But I like Zek's formation a lot. I am not Pizarro's greatest fan, but he would do well in that role. He often sits quite deep for us anyway and can really do well there I think as a playmaker. I would prefer someone else though to takeover Veron's role. We need to realise that titles are won by the midfields not by attacks and defence and currently ours isn't strong enough:
------------------Toldo---------------
Maicon----Cordoba----Samuel----Grosso
J.Zanetti---Dacourt----Cambiasso--Deki
------------Recoba----Adriano---------
With new additions things could change though. I think 4 players are needed on top of Maicon, Maxwell, Grosso and Dacourt who are almost certain to arrive: a DM, an AM a CB and a striker. De Rossi, Riquelme, Toni and Bonera..........:smoking: . We can all dream.
this is Cuper's like formation :silly: DiBI and CZ in center :silly:
yes G you miss him I know :evil:
Zek this is just a good formation but u only dropped one thing.
Pizzaro isn't that type of defensive so u must cover him first.
u can put
...................... Cambiasso ............... Stankovic ............................
.......................................Pizzaro ..............................................
Pirlo got experience which made him play freely as a DM without covering but i just think Pizarro will take time first 2 gain experience and 2 deal with the formation.
read my post again :silly:
in order to protect a small player you will have to keep him close to big tackling players, keep him behind or expose him like Aimar is exposed at Valencia, so he spends half of the time in hospitals... I doubt if Pizzaro is as fast as Aimar, so using him as AMC is quite tricky.
the DMC position for Pizzaro does not mean he will have to have DMC functions, he'll be a sitting back MC, those will be covered by Cambiasso and Stankovic in front of him!
the only thing I am afraid of is Pizzaro using long balls often cauz he'll be sitting too deep...
as others said prefer to have someone to replace Veron or a good winger and try moving Stankovic to center. I am sure Stanko will succeed - that's my summer obsession - play Dejan in center! :nod:
GiorgioII
06-08-2006, 04:32 PM
this is Cuper's like formation :silly: DiBI and CZ in center :silly:
yes G you miss him I know :evil:
Hehe. I think Cambiasso and Dacourt offer a bit more coming forward as well. I am not a massive fan of this 4-4-2 but with the player CURRENTLY available it is probably the best.
Sebastian
06-08-2006, 06:25 PM
...The thread is edited for the official signings and their implementation in the formation...a "setting"like in F1:evil:...i hope this will be the best transwer campaigne so far...Juve is going Down and Milan is an Milk Shake...:lol:...i smell some quality meat my friends...;)....:evil:...
so no talk here about transfers until they're official right?
hope everyone follows and we don't end up with trashed senseless threads :smoking:
Goran what do you think about formations though? :p
come on you have not posted some materialistic stuff for a long time, all we get from you is endless philosophy :evil: chants - which I like, but I am afraid this way you'll end up going to Tibet or becoming a monk, I am really worried about you! :evil:
so Goran - where's your proposed formation? :silly:
Hehe. I think Cambiasso and Dacourt offer a bit more coming forward as well. I am not a massive fan of this 4-4-2 but with the player CURRENTLY available it is probably the best.
i am afraid it is too late to educate Cambiasso into MC - AMC type player, normally MC degrade into DMC then into DCs then into ... no no not goalkeepers :p
nope mate - just move Dejan to center and let chaps like Solari, Cesar or Grosso play the wing.
Dacourt has a big ass just fitting the Inter bench :silly:
Ryan27
06-09-2006, 06:50 AM
come on you have not posted some materialistic stuff for a long time, all we get from you is endless philosophy :evil: chants - which I like, but I am afraid this way you'll end up going to Tibet or becoming a monk, I am really worried about you! :evil:
:lol:
I like the sound of Dejan in the center too. Should be patient with him though, since he has played on the left for most of the last two years. If he has a bad game or two in the center at first, we shouldn't get frustrated and give up on him right away. I think he'd need some time to settle back in, even if it is his natural position.
GiorgioII
06-09-2006, 07:56 PM
:lol:
I like the sound of Dejan in the center too. Should be patient with him though, since he has played on the left for most of the last two years. If he has a bad game or two in the center at first, we shouldn't get frustrated and give up on him right away. I think he'd need some time to settle back in, even if it is his natural position.
I would rather sign someone who has played in the centre of midfield for the past two seasons. Can Inter afford to take such a large gamble? Because you're right he may not succeed.
King Adriano
06-09-2006, 10:18 PM
i'm also with the idea of signing a good midfielder but if we cant i'll just go for no one more than Stankovic he can do it better than anyone in Inter roster right now.
ItalyFanNumero
06-11-2006, 02:47 AM
------------Toldo------------
Zanetti-Samuel-Burdisso-Solari
------Dacourt-Cambiasso-----
---Recoba-------------Figo---
-------Adriano-Martins--------
Pizarro, Stankovic, Mihaljovic, Cruz & Cordoba near the top team.
King Adriano
06-11-2006, 10:54 AM
------------Toldo------------
Zanetti-Samuel-Burdisso-Solari
------Dacourt-Cambiasso-----
---Recoba-------------Figo---
-------Adriano-Martins--------
Pizarro, Stankovic, Mihaljovic, Cruz & Cordoba near the top team.
Welcome man , u look new 2 the forums and BTW there are some good points in ur formation and some points that need another look.
we can't play Solari as a left back after we got Grosso.
Sebastian
06-11-2006, 07:14 PM
Welcome man , u look new 2 the forums and BTW there are some good points in ur formation and some points that need another look.
we can't play Solari as a left back after we got Grosso.
...not becouse we have Grosso...but no one would play Solari on the left back...;)....
------------Toldo------------
Zanetti-Samuel-Burdisso-Solari
------Dacourt-Cambiasso-----
---Recoba-------------Figo---
-------Adriano-Martins--------
...this whole team is impossible my friend...Recoba on the right...Inter's best defender Cordoba is out while a snail like Burdisso has taken his position...and the one that aspecially irritates me is Dacourt over Stankovic...Dacourt is absolute Crap...the worst possible replacement for Cristiano who won Roma the scudetto when Emerson was injured the whole season...perhaps Cristiano will try to compensate his time on the bebch at Inter with constant starting position in seria B with Juve...:lol:....hahaha...dumbass...:evil:...he can go and piss off...and im not so sure that Grosso will be better than Maxwell...
King Adriano
06-12-2006, 09:26 PM
Elcino i can say that Grosso will take his place at least next season and Maxwell will have 2 be his backup but in coming years we may see Maxwell as a starter.
Ryan27
06-12-2006, 11:54 PM
Elcino i can say that Grosso will take his place at least next season and Maxwell will have 2 be his backup but in coming years we may see Maxwell as a starter.
If he's healthy, Maxwell will not be anyone's backup. Before his injury, all the big clubs wanted him. The guy was busy playing in the Champions League and winning Player of the Year in Holland when Grosso was still in Serie B. Both players are fortunately capable of playing in midfield, so it doesn't necessarily have to be one or the other. For a defender, Maxwell is incredibly comfortable and smooth on the ball. That plus his natural Brazilian flair is what makes him special. For me personally, there is no doubt that Maxwell is more talented. But I am just happy that we have him AND Grosso. Between those two and our wingers, Mancini will have some interesting combinations to choose from for the left flank.
I have been told though that Maxwell may not be recovered in time for the season. Let's hope he makes a complete recovery and meanwhile we'll see if Grosso can take advantage of any absence for the Brazilian.
Sebastian
06-13-2006, 02:11 PM
...i saw Grosso last night against Ghana...and he was the only awerage player...even Lippi criticised him...he's nothing special...when Zambrotta recovers Grosso wont even see the pitch...while Maxwell is brilliant...and he'll be ready for the next season...you can bett on that...but theyre bouth better than Favalli who i couldnt watch...:sick:....
Ryan27
06-14-2006, 01:05 AM
yeah, while Grosso wasn't bad against Ghana, he just didn't look as classy as his teammates. He might've been nervous too, since it was the biggest game he has ever played in. Coco probably has more talent than Grosso, but I suppose Francesco never could and never will be able to stay healthy. This isn't to say that Grosso will prove to be a poor signing, because I think he should be very useful. But clearly it is in our best interests that Maxwell gets fit and stays that way.
nimesh0775
06-14-2006, 10:08 AM
World's Top Young Team
Curci (Roma)
Ramos (Real)
Albiol (Valencia)
Senderos (Arsenal)
Clichy (Arsenal)
Sissoko (Liverpool)
Fabregas (Arsenal)
Diego (Werder Bremen)
Ronaldo (Man Utd)
Bojinov (Fiorentina)
Rooney (Man Utd)
nimesh0775
06-14-2006, 10:13 AM
Who Inter should sign for left-back for future?
World's Top Five Young Left-backs:
1. Gael Clichy (FRA) - Arsenal - 21 years old
2. Florian Marange (FRA) - Bordeaux - 20 years old
3. Jose Enrique (ESP) - Valencia - 20 years old (starred while playing on loan at Celta Vigo last season)
4. Andre Marques (POR) - Sporting Lisbon - 19 years old
5. Gerard Pique (ESP) - Man Utd - 19 years old
GiorgioII
06-14-2006, 12:03 PM
We will continue this in the new thread as Omar has requested all threads above 1000 posts be closed. Thankyou.
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