Official Signings & Formation Set up 2006/07

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

edited by nismo

[nismo]

Really Ilfenomeno, i can actually feel myself becoming more stupid by just typing to you.
No, that's just the way you are cv32.
By the looks of your posts, you've outdone yourself once again with the myriad of crap posted all over the board. I thought your attitude was improving but I guess it's the case of 1 step forward, 3 steps back right??

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

No, that's just the way you are cv32.
By the looks of your posts, you've outdone yourself once again with the myriad of crap posted all over the board. I thought your attitude was improving but I guess it's the case of 1 step forward, 3 steps back right??



I don't care why are you telling me this? i came here to post my opinions and thoughts, not to make friends, capisce?

[_mR aSj_]

CV bro post as much as u want, but dont abuse ppl coz it just screw the freakin forum up. coz we want to read inter news n have scroll threw all ur fighting n shit just to read decent info.

[GiorgioII]

I don't care why are you telling me this? i came here to post my opinions and thoughts, not to make friends, capisce?
OK CV32, I think this is a good time to do this. Since, well forever really, you have doubted Adriano's big game ability. You say that he only scores against the little teams, despite the fact that whilst he was at Parma he scored against all of the big teams, or most of them anyway. Now, after scoring in the last minute of time against Argentina, in perhaps the biggest game of his career, do you still doubt his ability to perform in the big games?

[Il fenomeno]

how do i know the reason for emres substitution?? how do i know that a JAPANESE player shoved the referee and got a yellow card...

why does everyone know your a ***king dick head?

[Sebastian]

...JAPAN is so unreachable....it's too bad that i couldnt watched the games with the japanese...:smoking:....
it seems that CESAR...MIHAJLOVIC and ZE MARIA are on the way.....:evil:....

[Sebastian]

it's too bad that i couldnt watch the matches in JAPAN....:mad2:...

hell somethings wrong here...i posted and it didnt apear...:confused:...andcafter i posted thi second post it apeared....damn it....

[GiorgioII]

it's too bad that i couldnt watch the matches in JAPAN....:mad2:...

hell somethings wrong here...i posted and it didnt apear...:confused:...andcafter i posted thi second post it apeared....damn it....

I thought Shanghai is a Chinese team isn't it??

Oh right, I have had that problem too eLcino. There's not a lot that you can do about it to be honest :rolleyes:

[doz]

Pish, So who cares if CZ is not an attacking player stupid? he's a DM meaning he is a defensive minded minded player. So i have no idea what your moaning and bitching about him not attacking and comparing him to Emre? I think you better go wash your eyes because C.Zanetti has won something in Italy, Emre hasn't. And he was clearly one of the main reason why Roma won Lo scudetto that year and which Capello have just recently changed him into a defensive and attacking player where i have seen C.zanetti
Attack at times last season so i have no idea what your talking about how he isn't useful in attack. And you talk about Emre is useful? when the hell has Emre ever defended in games? Emre hasn't defended in his life. Go try watching some Serie A FFS.
LOL aye, i think you need to stay in the Uk forum chat you wanka.

Cristiano may be a defensive midfielder but that still entails being able to pass and kick a football properly, something at which he fails miserably most of the time. I never denied that he had one good season with Roma but he's done nothing since then. A player can't live on the reputation of one season forever. To suggest that he's useful in attack is laughable, actually absurd. He's about as useful to our attack as the opposition defence.
As for the fact that you resort to personal insults at the end of your posts, well that just further confirms that you are nothing but a loser who can't formulate a proper argument. You've got some growing up to do boy but there's plenty of time for you. :D

[Sebastian]

Cristiano may be a defensive midfielder but that still entails being able to pass and kick a football properly, something at which he fails miserably most of the time. I never denied that he had one good season with Roma but he's done nothing since then. A player can't live on the reputation of one season forever. To suggest that he's useful in attack is laughable, actually absurd. He's about as useful to our attack as the opposition defence.
As for the fact that you resort to personal insults at the end of your posts, well that just further confirms that you are nothing but a loser who can't formulate a proper argument. You've got some growing up to do boy but there's plenty of time for you. :D

but Doz unfortunately we wont be able to monitor his progress...he'll grow elswhere in some other forum....;)......

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

OK CV32, I think this is a good time to do this. Since, well forever really, you have doubted Adriano's big game ability. You say that he only scores against the little teams, despite the fact that whilst he was at Parma he scored against all of the big teams, or most of them anyway. Now, after scoring in the last minute of time against Argentina, in perhaps the biggest game of his career, do you still doubt his ability to perform in the big games?



So who cares what Adriano did at Parma? Try scoring with this weak defensive Inter side. At Parma Adriano recieved quality ball from a good midfield. Vieri scored 24 goals in 23 games half solo.Did you notice Adrianos score rate went down at inter. 9 goals in 16 games at Inter where in parma he had a goal tally of 8 goals in 9 games. Vieri netted a tally of 14 goals in 16 games. And so what about the performances he did at Copa America? Brasil winning just means they have the best 2nd string team in the tournament. It counts when he plays at Inter. You still haven't seem to understand that i do like Adriano he has fantastic dribbling skills and he is always in the right position to score. It's just that Bobo has a better scoring tally and the best in Italy. Vieri can defend and Attack and at times assist other players. he is useful in the front and back. The problem with Bobo is that he has too many injuries. if he was fit in all games there would be more goals on top of the 13 and 24 goals he had in the past 2 seasons.

[Il fenomeno]

14 goals in 16 games... please elaborate!!!

[Sebastian]

....il fenomeno....i've read his post and it's pathetic desplay of pure frustration...ADRIANO is the worlds best forward...no other can match his air dominance...no other can perform free kicks like him and as for his technique i shouldnt waste his words....if someone insists with RONALDO...SHEVCHENKO...HENRY....or TOTTI than it's a reasonable debate and polemics will be logical but this is just absurd and worthless....:rolleyes:...stop wasting you're time pople defending ADRIANO...he defends him self damn cool....first he scored against a ridiculous side like COSTA RICCA and when he thrashed MEXICO and ARGENTINA another lodicrous excuse and pointless...pointless atempt to avoid his ambarrassment....:sick:....trully pathetic...

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

Well this is coming from the same person who thought Cruz was quality so i won't bother replying to this wench. Oh yea btw you still haven't answered the question i asked you why you keep ignoring me? What does a Scudetto mean? Bleh, at least know what it means before claiming you have 13 of them you plastico interista.

[devious]

Guys.. I think you better cakm down .. this forum was suppose to have more members for this month, I told many friends about it but they told me that this forum arn`t talking about Inter anymore!!!!
because of your shit argues you are losing new members and losing respect!! I believe this is a football forum not a politic or a judgement forum!

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

Cristiano may be a defensive midfielder but that still entails being able to pass and kick a football properly, something at which he fails miserably most of the time. I never denied that he had one good season with Roma but he's done nothing since then. A player can't live on the reputation of one season forever. To suggest that he's useful in attack is laughable, actually absurd. He's about as useful to our attack as the opposition defence.
As for the fact that you resort to personal insults at the end of your posts, well that just further confirms that you are nothing but a loser who can't formulate a proper argument. You've got some growing up to do boy but there's plenty of time for you. :D



Ma are you stupid?You still haven't seem to understand that C.zanetti is not looked upon as an attacking player. I'll say it again he is a DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER.Since when do teams play without a DM? Hence, name me a DM at Inter who is better than C.Zanetti? And no i only insult people who think they are intelligent but know dick all about sport saying shit like how a DM who is defensive minded expects attacking which C.Zanetti has done at times but in general he is defensive minded throughout the 90 minutes.I don't even know why i'm even arguing with you. It's obvious you haven't watched a full season of Inter because your too busy watching the pish English League. And how are you even an Interista anyways when you have that hideous Man utd avatar huh?

[Sebastian]

Well this is coming from the same person who thought Cruz was quality so i won't bother replying to this wench. Oh yea btw you still haven't answered the question i asked you why you keep ignoring me? What does a Scudetto mean? Bleh, at least know what it means before claiming you have 13 of them you plastico interista.

CRUZ?????....to whoom are you reffering Mr"intelect"?????what a scudetto means????.....:silly:....:ronaldo:....hahahaha.....in whole my expiriance here i havent met more irrational member that is poured with cristally pure ignorance....you're asking us quiestions???....:silly:...hahahaha...i dont know whether to laugh or yell....:ronaldo:...if i or anyone else answer to you're questions than will make a fools out of our selfs....
listen you undeveloped sub humanoid....if you want to lurn the art of ARISTICS...to polemise with people you dont ask hidious questions....aspecially on INTERNET...where every retard can answer you even what number you're pants are....you conversate and discuss...you're intellect isnt sharp and refined at all for you to bath in arrogance...if only you were as smart as you're arrogant....;)....

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

CRUZ?????....to whoom are you reffering Mr"intelect"?????what a scudetto means????.....:silly:....:ronaldo:....hahahaha.....in whole my expiriance here i havent met more irrational member that is poured with cristally pure ignorance....you're asking us quiestions???....:silly:...hahahaha...i dont know whether to laugh or yell....:ronaldo:...if i or anyone else answer to you're questions than will make a fools out of our selfs....
listen you undeveloped sub humanoid....if you want to lurn the art of ARISTICS...to polemise with people you dont ask hidious questions....aspecially on INTERNET...where every retard can answer you even what number you're pants are....you conversate and discuss...you're intellect isnt sharp and refined at all for you to bath in arrogance...if only you were as smart as you're arrogant....;)....



All this and you still weren't able to come out with an answer? You know everyone who is reading this post can clearly see you are denying the question. Save this pish for the playground capito?

[Sebastian]

...you're answers to my replies are as rurral as they can be....we were discussing the meaning of teh term SCUDETTO and what it means long before you're missmatching eyes saw this forum...Italian Boy explained what the words calcio...scudetto...and stuff like that means.....LONG BEFORE you were even banned from the other boards my "friend"....long before....

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

...you're answers to my replies are as rurral as they can be....we were discussing the meaning of teh term SCUDETTO and what it means long before you're missmatching eyes saw this forum...Italian Boy explained what the words calcio...scudetto...and stuff like that means.....LONG BEFORE you were even banned from the other boards my "friend"....long before....


eh? then if Italianboy explained the meanings why can't you answer the question instead of being a brat. Same way even if he already explained it to everybody you still failed miserably on the question on which player played in both Milano and Torino derbies and all you came up with as ws Marco Ferrante LOL!

[Sebastian]

.....:ronaldo:.....

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

.....:ronaldo:.....


LOL AYE EXACTLY

[nismo]

I don't care why are you telling me this? i came here to post my opinions and thoughts, not to make friends, capisce?
Well no shit sherlock
But you have to still abide by forum rules and etiquette. I don't care if you came here to try and make the world a better place, there are others here who don't want to put up reading your offensive crap, which is violating forum guidelines. Get it??

[nismo]

Well this is coming from the same person who thought Cruz was quality so i won't bother replying to this wench. Oh yea btw you still haven't answered the question i asked you why you keep ignoring me? What does a Scudetto mean? Bleh, at least know what it means before claiming you have 13 of them you plastico interista.
Interesting, I remember you making this statement about Cruz:
Yah, and what about if i compared vieri to cruz? Cruz was atleast quality at Bologna and was always their goal scoring hero. he is by far better than that yellow bucked tooth wench.
Looks like somebody's a bit forgetful ;) So will you be applying the same rule to yourself and not bother posting??
BTW I still don't what you're trying to gain by asking elcino what does Scudetto means?? Didn't I already answer it before?? eg the tri-color badge?? If you're gonna be like that then I can ask you why the heck do you have to use the same words that I used to insult you with like "expose" and "hypocritical" when you don't know why they mean, it's quite lame to be copying... see my point?

[nismo]

So who cares what Adriano did at Parma? Try scoring with this weak defensive Inter side. At Parma Adriano recieved quality ball from a good midfield. Vieri scored 24 goals in 23 games half solo.Did you notice Adrianos score rate went down at inter. 9 goals in 16 games at Inter where in parma he had a goal tally of 8 goals in 9 games. Vieri netted a tally of 14 goals in 16 games. And so what about the performances he did at Copa America? Brasil winning just means they have the best 2nd string team in the tournament. It counts when he plays at Inter. You still haven't seem to understand that i do like Adriano he has fantastic dribbling skills and he is always in the right position to score. It's just that Bobo has a better scoring tally and the best in Italy. Vieri can defend and Attack and at times assist other players. he is useful in the front and back. The problem with Bobo is that he has too many injuries. if he was fit in all games there would be more goals on top of the 13 and 24 goals he had in the past 2 seasons.
Well at Parma he played with a side that was on paper, many times weaker than Inter. So I think the issue lies deeper, hopefully Mancio knows the answer. I don't think you should go around bringing up random numbers without offering any explanation.
Funny how you only care about Adriano's form for Inter and not Brasil, because I could've sworn I said the same thing when you tried to give shit to Adriano and Brasil :rolleyes:

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

Interesting, I remember you making this statement about Cruz:
Yah, and what about if i compared vieri to cruz? Cruz was atleast quality at Bologna and was always their goal scoring hero. he is by far better than that yellow bucked tooth wench.
Looks like somebody's a bit forgetful ;) So will you be applying the same rule to yourself and not bother posting??
BTW I still don't what you're trying to gain by asking elcino what does Scudetto means?? Didn't I already answer it before?? eg the tri-color badge?? If you're gonna be like that then I can ask you why the heck do you have to use the same words that I used to insult you with like "expose" and "hypocritical" when you don't know why they mean, it's quite lame to be copying... see my point?




Eh stupid are you paying attnetion or what? what does Cruz's performance have to do with games he played at Inter.? Can't you see i was reffering to Cru'z performances he played last season at Inter and not Bologna? Did i not say he was quality at bologna so? Cruz was a good player playing at Bologna for a small team like that but no where in the big Clubs like Inter,Milan,and juve. I reckon we had a conversation like this before winter break where some of you were even comparing cruz to Vieri as a better player then in the New year he went dead and everyone forgot about him. So spare me the stupidity for one day your are not getting another argfument you fool. You are pointless.

[adrianofan]

Adriano's strike-rate may not have been as good as Vieri's in Inter but you also have to take into account that Adriano was forced to play deeper in some occassions and he didn't always get the start in those 16 apps. Plus he also needed time to settle in as he came in January (and in the end of the season, he seemed to)... Plus scoring 17 goals (8 with Parma, 9 with Inter) in a 25 game season for Adriano was quite good as he was 5th in Serie A's scoring list. It's an improvement from last year which was 15 goals in 28 games with Parma I think. Adriano will perform a lot better next season guaranteed.

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

Adriano's strike-rate may not have been as good as Vieri's in Inter but you also have to take into account that Adriano was forced to play deeper in some occassions and he didn't always get the start in those 16 apps. Plus he also needed time to settle in as he came in January (and in the end of the season, he seemed to)... Plus scoring 17 goals (8 with Parma, 9 with Inter) in a 25 game season for Adriano was quite good as he was 5th in Serie A's scoring list. It's an improvement from last year which was 15 goals in 28 games with Parma I think. Adriano will perform a lot better next season guaranteed.


Well Vieri was forced into a deeper role as a supportive striker for Adriano too because Zac forced them to sacrifice each other but that still doesn't cover the fact that Vieri had a better strike rate than Adriano let alone the important ones he scored in UEFA cup. Well that's great he had an impressive strike rate at Parma but why are you talking as if you think i hate him? i know he is a good player but you have to understand Adriano played more games than Bobo. ANd i do think he will have a good season this year and will as wel for Bobo because inter have re-enforced the midfield this year so there will be more balls coming up front. But let me warn you if Vieri stays fit this season without injuries and plays 100%. Bobo will pass everyone and you know this.

[nismo]

Eh stupid are you paying attnetion or what? what does Cruz's performance have to do with games he played at Inter.? Can't you see i was reffering to Cru'z performances he played last season at Inter and not Bologna? Did i not say he was quality at bologna so? Cruz was a good player playing at Bologna for a small team like that but no where in the big Clubs like Inter,Milan,and juve. I reckon we had a conversation like this before winter break where some of you were even comparing cruz to Vieri as a better player then in the New year he went dead and everyone forgot about him. So spare me the stupidity for one day your are not getting another argfument you fool. You are pointless.
I'm paying attention better than you are. You were implying Cruz's quality, which club you meant is irrelevant (even if you meant Inter, Cruz still scored important goals), because that's what you said. Anyways if you reckon he's that shit for small clubs, then you wouldn't have compared him to Vieri while discussing Bobo's goal rate would you? that's right I proved you wrong on that one too, which is why you ended up saying Cruz is some quality to save face. Oh yeah, you also said he was better than Recoba or Ronaldo whichever bucktooth, so that would automatically mean Cruz to have some degree of quality. BTW Are you sure I said such statements about Cruz being better than Vieri, you're so hopeless and desperate I can't believe you're making stuff up now. I believe I said something along the lines of Cruz value to the team when Inter were on a 6 game winning streak moron like his game against Juve, but I never said he was better than Bobo. At least I can prove your mistakes, why don't you find me a post or statement to back yourself up if you're so positive?? Go on, I dare ya.
Yeah you're right you don't want to get into an arguement, because we both know where it'll end eg You giving me some B/S one liner.
Just admit you were caught out cv32, the proof is there, no point denying it.

[nismo]

But let me warn you if Vieri stays fit this season without injuries and plays 100%. Bobo will pass everyone and you know this.
And everyone knows Bobo averages 10 games out each season with injuries "you know this" also, so you can chuck that "warning" out the window.

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

And everyone knows Bobo averages 10 games out each season with injuries "you know this" also, so you can chuck that "warning" out the window.




What does this mean besides poitning to the fact of what a moron you are?

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

I'm paying attention better than you are. You were implying Cruz's quality, which club you meant is irrelevant (even if you meant Inter, Cruz still scored important goals), because that's what you said. Anyways if you reckon he's that shit for small clubs, then you wouldn't have compared him to Vieri while discussing Bobo's goal rate would you? that's right I proved you wrong on that one too, which is why you ended up saying Cruz is some quality to save face. Oh yeah, you also said he was better than Recoba or Ronaldo whichever bucktooth, so that would automatically mean Cruz to have some degree of quality. BTW Are you sure I said such statements about Cruz being better than Vieri, you're so hopeless and desperate I can't believe you're making stuff up now. I believe I said something along the lines of Cruz value to the team when Inter were on a 6 game winning streak moron like his game against Juve, but I never said he was better than Bobo. At least I can prove your mistakes, why don't you find me a post or statement to back yourself up if you're so positive?? Go on, I dare ya.
Yeah you're right you don't want to get into an arguement, because we both know where it'll end eg You giving me some B/S one liner.
Just admit you were caught out cv32, the proof is there, no point denying it.



You know what nismo i just realised what kind of a person you are. You are one of those stupid indiviuals who would try anything to start heat without having any proof or some type of evidence to put it behind. Where in my post did i directly pointed out you said Cruz was better than Bobo? "I reckon we had a conversation like this before winter break where some of you were even comparing cruz to Vieri as a better player then in the New year he went dead and everyone forgot about him." That's what i said didn't i? Blah blah this is why you are such moron. You still haven't seem to get it through your head that there is different levels of quality from world class,average. and amatuer. Cruz is an average player so what point are you trying to prove here? What action took place here like you claimed i was caught for something you have no proof over besides being an idiot?

[nismo]

You know what nismo i just realised what kind of a person you are. You are one of those stupid indiviuals who would try anything to start heat without having any proof or some type of evidence to put it behind. Where in my post did i directly pointed out you said Cruz was better than Bobo? "I reckon we had a conversation like this before winter break where some of you were even comparing cruz to Vieri as a better player then in the New year he went dead and everyone forgot about him." That's what i said didn't i? Blah blah this is why you are such moron. You still haven't seem to get it through your head that there is different levels of quality from world class,average. and amatuer. Cruz is an average player so what point are you trying to prove here? What action took place here like you claimed i was caught for something you have no proof over besides being an idiot?
No it seems like you're too stupid yourself to even understand the irony (yes you know what does the word "irony" means?) and humour. It started like this, you tried to insult elcino with this line"Well this is coming from the same person who thought Cruz was quality so i won't bother replying to this wench" Which I thought was funny because you regarded Cruz with some kind of quality yourself, which I already show with a statement you made in our earlier arguement where you used Cruz to compare with Bobo's goal-rate. Then you go on about how you meant this and that, which is totally irrelevant because the fact is there, you referred to Cruz of some kind of quality, I don't care WTF you meant be it average or worldclass. There was no point, it was supposed to be a joke, but obviously you didn't get it. Oh yeah, I just wanna make sure you didn't meant me as well in your assumption of what "people" around here said about Cruz being better than Bobo, cause I naturally thought you were including me, because you seem to like to generalise people, like with "foreigners". Anyways, you couldn't find shit on me, that's the only thing that matters.

[nismo]

What does this mean besides poitning to the fact of what a moron you are?
It means you're wrong, get it dumbass?? We all know Bobo is injury prone so suggesting he go thru the season with no injury, and then making somekind of "I told you so" warning is ridiculous. So what's that about a moron again??????

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

No it seems like you're too stupid yourself to even understand the irony (yes you know what does the word "irony" means?) and humour. It started like this, you tried to insult elcino with this line"Well this is coming from the same person who thought Cruz was quality so i won't bother replying to this wench" Which I thought was funny because you regarded Cruz with some kind of quality yourself, which I already show with a statement you made in our earlier arguement where you used Cruz to compare with Bobo's goal-rate. Then you go on about how you meant this and that, which is totally irrelevant because the fact is there, you referred to Cruz of some kind of quality, I don't care WTF you meant be it average or worldclass. There was no point, it was supposed to be a joke, but obviously you didn't get it. Oh yeah, I just wanna make sure you didn't meant me as well in your assumption of what "people" around here said about Cruz being better than Bobo, cause I naturally thought you were including me, because you seem to like to generalise people, like with "foreigners". Anyways, you couldn't find shit on me, that's the only thing that matters.


wtf? who you trying to fool? nice try buddy but when i comparing Vieri to Cruz i was comparing all the strikers at Inter that Moratti had Vieri playing with over the last 5 seasons It still hasn't sunked in your head that i was reffering him playing in bologna. Yea i said Cruz was quality at bologna so what? He was Bolognas hitman. So why are we still talking about this? Cruz is an average player he will never be playing for another top club again in his life. when i meant he player compared to Bobo and Adriano.

[doz]

Ma are you stupid?You still haven't seem to understand that C.zanetti is not looked upon as an attacking player. I'll say it again he is a DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER.Since when do teams play without a DM? Hence, name me a DM at Inter who is better than C.Zanetti? And no i only insult people who think they are intelligent but know dick all about sport saying shit like how a DM who is defensive minded expects attacking which C.Zanetti has done at times but in general he is defensive minded throughout the 90 minutes.I don't even know why i'm even arguing with you. It's obvious you haven't watched a full season of Inter because your too busy watching the pish English League. And how are you even an Interista anyways when you have that hideous Man utd avatar huh?

It's clear that you actually have no idea what being a defensive midfielder entails so i'm not even going to waste time explaining it to you. As for a better one than Zanetti? Ever heard of EDGAR DAVIDS boy? Miles and streets ahead of the hapless Cristiano.

And why shouldn't i support two teams in my two favourite leagues? No rule that says i can't or shouldn't. And BTW my avator actually flashes between three crests in case you didn't notice. And the fact that you think the English league is crap again highlights just how patheticly narrow minded you are. :smoking:

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

It's clear that you actually have no idea what being a defensive midfielder entails so i'm not even going to waste time explaining it to you. As for a better one than Zanetti? Ever heard of EDGAR DAVIDS boy? Miles and streets ahead of the hapless Cristiano.

And why shouldn't i support two teams in my two favourite leagues? No rule that says i can't or shouldn't. And BTW my avator actually flashes between three crests in case you didn't notice. And the fact that you think the English league is crap again highlights just how patheticly narrow minded you are. :smoking:



What about Davids stupid? Davids can't defend more than half what CZ defends throughout the 90's minutes. Haven't you noticed Davids is well more known for his attacking abilities? C.Zanetti is Inters best DM period.

[#1 Recoba fan]

What about Davids stupid? Davids can't defend more than half what CZ defends throughout the 90's minutes. Haven't you noticed Davids is well more known for his attacking abilities? C.Zanetti is Inters best DM period.
Your absolutley right.Cristiano is the best DM at Inter.Cristiano will play Defensive Midfield and if Cesar dosn't come than Davids will probably play out on the left.He played the best crosses in from the left for Holland in Euro 2004.Sorry I forgot,If Cesar dosnt come than Recoba will play on the left and davids will be after him.

[Slavenik]

You think Recoba should play on the left??

Last season it seemed to be the most ridicilous desescion made by both Zac and Cuper. Recoba pushed on the left will mean cutting his freedom.

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

The problem with Recoba is that he hasn't really found a position where he can stay put and play. IMO i think he plays at best when playing on the left side he did that against Chievo when Inter won 2-0 where he found his form back.

[GiorgioII]

I also think that Recoba is useful on the left. As long as he doesn't have too many defensive duties and is just given a liscense to roam and wrek havoc then I think the LW role could be his best position.

[Il fenomeno]

Saw Tim cup yesterday, and i saw some interesting games. inter is playing very stylish now, one touch passing and great play, mancini has changed all this in his few weeks in charged. We outplayed juve, and vs milan mancini played a more b-string team. Emre impressed me the most, but Veron, Stankovic, Burdisso were great as well. Considering that big players such as Recoba and Adriano are missing, this will be an exciting prospect of Inter anno 2004-2005. First mission is obviously to get into the Champions League. We have some more friendlies to hone this team.. Bolton on the 1st, juve-palermo in the birra moretti on the 3rd, 14 august game vs aek aten...

things are looking good my friends,,, but time to get rid of some player. Ventola is a player i simply do not recognize, where is the player who saved inter on many occasions with ronaldo 5 years ago.

Ventola, Sorondo, Lamouchi, Choutous, Pasquale and Zicu should all be loaned out or sold.

We need to get rid of a central midfielder as well. Veron, Davids and Cambiasso are untouchable considering we just bought them. Emre has to much potential to be sold. it's either farinos or cristiano. cristiano plays like a retard to be honest. he goes around fouling all the time and getting out played, besides, he would not consider being 3rd option would he... so its better to keep cristiano. i was the coach, i would sell fat ***k without an ounce of hesitation. Adriano, sorry to say bobo, is a superior player all areas considered. Martins should stay with Inter, Recoba is untouchable. I hope we sell vieri. That would give us a balanced side. Im very impressed by Favalli as well, we need another "father" in our team...

Juventus were disgraceful yesterday, and I stick to my prediction, milanese sides to battle it out.

[GiorgioII]

I didn't see the games, but I have been sooo happy by the reports that I have recieved about the way that we have been playing. Apparently Burdisso was superb.
I'm sure your comments about Cristiano are going to anger CV32 Il Fenomeno. To be honest, I really doubt that he will be sold, but I think Davids is a superior player so I won't be too upset if CZ is sold.
I agree that it will probably end up being a battle between Inter and Milan, but Juventus are getting stronger, especially with the signing of Emerson...they will still be a force.

[Slavenik]

Yesterday Inter did well. The whole side was balanced, and i am very happy for the youngsters that probably had one of the best days of their lives yeaterday with being the one that brought us the victory and also praised by the whole staff, as well as hand-shaked by Moratti. It looks like Mancini is doing a great job.

You are right Il fenomeno, we must sell the crap. Actually, i just read that Biava and Moreau were loned to some Seria B club. Thats a good way to see if this players worth anything.

As for Bobo, i also thought that it would be good for both Inter and him if he left us, as we will get good money, and he was going to be able to find his form at Chelsea perhaps, or somewhere else in the EPL. But now with Mancio in charge, i think that Bobo will shine again. Mancio knows him very well, and he knows what he is doing :) But ofcourse i will say that #1 striker in our team is defenetly Adriano, and other strikers job is to fight to make him company upfront.

[Sebastian]

...JUVE doesnt worry me....it's MILAN...EMERSON will play with TACHNARDI...or APPIAH...who are ridiculous....it's not even close to our mid field...:evil:....

[Sebastian]

...JUVE doesnt worry me....it's MILAN...EMERSON will play with TACHNARDI...or APPIAH...who are ridiculous....it's not even close to our mid field...:evil:....
...man it was a great satisfaction to beat MILAN and JUVE.....INTER was fanstastic..i didnt watched the game but i saw the highlights....:smoking:...

[adrianofan]

...JUVE doesnt worry me....it's MILAN...EMERSON will play with TACHNARDI...or APPIAH...who are ridiculous....it's not even close to our mid field...:evil:....
...man it was a great satisfaction to beat MILAN and JUVE.....INTER was fanstastic..i didnt watched the game but i saw the highlights....:smoking:...

I heard Inter beat Juvy 1-0 (Martins goal) and Inter beat Milan 5-4 on penalties... what were the squad lineups? was this full teams or what? I also heard that Inter lost to the Urawa Red Diamonds 1-0 in Japan but I think it was second string Inter players or something.... plus I heard that Emerson (not Juvy's emerson but the guy playing in j-league) supposedly got fouled by toldo in the box and then he converted the penalty but I've always heard that this guy had a reputation for diving in the J-League :) Either way, losing 1-0 to a J-League team is dissapointing.

[doz]

What about Davids stupid? Davids can't defend more than half what CZ defends throughout the 90's minutes. Haven't you noticed Davids is well more known for his attacking abilities? C.Zanetti is Inters best DM period.

Oh dear, you now consider Davids an attacking midfielder? :rolleyes: Not sure what you've been watching the last few years but it doesn't seem to have been Serie A. Davids is primarily a holding midfielder who gets in and wins tackles and distributes the ball. Cristaino can barely do that much properly. In addition to his covering qualities, Davids can also break forward and be creative at times. That's why he's such a coveted and sought after player and why he'll consign that hopeless Cristiano to the bench. :cool:

[doz]

Ventola, Sorondo, Lamouchi, Choutous, Pasquale and Zicu should all be loaned out or sold.

We need to get rid of a central midfielder as well. Veron, Davids and Cambiasso are untouchable considering we just bought them. Emre has to much potential to be sold. it's either farinos or cristiano. cristiano plays like a retard to be honest. he goes around fouling all the time and getting out played, besides, he would not consider being 3rd option would he... so its better to keep cristiano. i was the coach, i would sell fat ***k without an ounce of hesitation.

Difficult to believe that me and il Fenomeno agree with something! :thumbsup:
We have absolutely no need for the above players with the possible exception of Pasquale, who i know can be good, and Choutos who we really don't know about. The others should be sold or released although we'll have a problem finding a buyer for Ventola. :rolleyes:
Interesting to hear about our midfield's performance, especially with Cristiano being a subject of so much debate recently. It sounds very much like he's playing to his usual low standards. :rolleyes:

[Il fenomeno]

Cristiano unfortunately is too slow to play in his position... not only physically, but in perception as well. Therefore davids and cambiasso would be better options... maybe we get some decent money for cristiano.. but i doubt...

[#1 Recoba fan]

You think Recoba should play on the left??

Last season it seemed to be the most ridicilous desescion made by both Zac and Cuper. Recoba pushed on the left will mean cutting his freedom.
Why not?He has shown that he can play on the left.As long as he is not given too hard defensive duties he will be class on the left.Mancini seems to want to play him there.I dont think it will cut off his freedom.A player like Racoba will always make freedom for himself in any position.when he plays in the hole behind the forwards he is always out in the wide area's.When he plays in the hole he isnt given room to run and that is what he wants so he goes out to the wide areas to get that.Playing him on the left will make the teams fluincy even greater.besides under Cuper his self confidence was driven out of him and under Zac he was just starting to get that back.

[Slavenik]

Dont be silly, Recoba isnt a player that should be attached as a LM/LW in a squad. He maybe has his runs on the wide, but that doesnt mean that he should play on the left.
To tell you the truth, i want to see our new squad play few times under Mancio so i can make this sort of statements. So far i didnt like what i saw from Recoba as a left midfielder, because even then he most of the time attacked from behind the strikers.

[devious]

Recoba in the left! that`s Interesting.. cause I can remember that games Recoba had played with Uruguay and he was LM/LW, one of them was against Bolivia in the first match in the WC qualifies.. the have beaten Bolivia 5-0.. but after that they changed thier strategy and Recoba used to play in the rught!! that was so stuped!!.. Bu ti Realized that to make Recoba play in that position you must give him some defending force behind him.. if you did you will have a POWERFUL left wing in your team that no team can defend!!
this can explain:
TOLDO======================
========CANAVARO===========
=====================COCO
=======DAVIDS(EMRE)=========
==================RECOBA
ADRINO====MARTINES=========

Like things goes in Uruguay (as I can remember):
CARINI======================
========MONTERO===========
==================RODRIGEUZ
=======G.VARELA(GARSIA)====
===================RECOBA
D.SYLVA====FORLAN==========

I think that depends on how Recoba will be confortable in this position! as playing COCO or CORDOBA or even Favalli in the left with the Helping of Davids or Emre.. then belive you will have the best assisting machine the left wing in Europe! This man is so fast and his passes don`t ever missed the target.. but in other opinion.. I believe his better place is in offence.. If you lookaHENRY. I remember he used to play in the winge cause he was fast and good in assists too ! but he sucked up!! This season he was Perfect and I mean perfect.. Arsen Venger gave him what he wants.. stong Left wing and midfield (Pires & Vieri).. Henry found himself so free that he can make acrobatic moves in the defenses :D ! I hope Recoba would have this chance this season.. I belive we will see the next Maradona! :dontcare:
_________
WELCOME to the forum #1Recobafan. ;)

[Ryan27]

Dont be silly, Recoba isnt a player that should be attached as a LM/LW in a squad. He maybe has his runs on the wide, but that doesnt mean that he should play on the left.
To tell you the truth, i want to see our new squad play few times under Mancio so i can make this sort of statements. So far i didnt like what i saw from Recoba as a left midfielder, because even then he most of the time attacked from behind the strikers.

Recoba makes great diagonal runs from the right, so he if he does get fielded on the left, he should definitely be given the freedom to move around as he pleases. Maybe in a perfect world he could just line up in the middle, but its up to Mancini to tell if that would be best for the team.

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

Oh dear, you now consider Davids an attacking midfielder? :rolleyes: Not sure what you've been watching the last few years but it doesn't seem to have been Serie A. Davids is primarily a holding midfielder who gets in and wins tackles and distributes the ball. Cristaino can barely do that much properly. In addition to his covering qualities, Davids can also break forward and be creative at times. That's why he's such a coveted and sought after player and why he'll consign that hopeless Cristiano to the bench. :cool:



now why are you blowing everything out of proportion? I know Davids is capable of what C.Zanetti does in a defensive role but just not good as Zanetti, capisce? I only rate Davids better than CZ is because he works hard in midfield running back and forth in a fancy attacking style. But as in terms of being better than CZ defensively, not a chance.Listen, i know Davids is better i just hope there can be a way so both can play to balance the midfield.

[doz]

now why are you blowing everything out of proportion? I know Davids is capable of what C.Zanetti does in a defensive role but just not good as Zanetti, capisce? I only rate Davids better than CZ is because he works hard in midfield running back and forth in a fancy attacking style. But as in terms of being better than CZ defensively, not a chance.Listen, i know Davids is better i just hope there can be a way so both can play to balance the midfield.

It's doubtful that both Davids and Cristiano can co-exist as Veron seems certain to be an automatic starter in the centre and Mancini favours the 4-4-2 formation.

[nismo]

wtf? who you trying to fool? nice try buddy but when i comparing Vieri to Cruz i was comparing all the strikers at Inter that Moratti had Vieri playing with over the last 5 seasons It still hasn't sunked in your head that i was reffering him playing in bologna. Yea i said Cruz was quality at bologna so what? He was Bolognas hitman. So why are we still talking about this? Cruz is an average player he will never be playing for another top club again in his life. when i meant he player compared to Bobo and Adriano.
hahaha "who are you trying to fool" another of the lines cv32 has "stole" and "copied" to use it back on me after I've used it on him so many times, man you're really lacking when it comes to originality arent ya?
cv32, please don't go back to that arguement about "Vieri the best over 5 years, no one comes close" B/S you're on about, I already gave you my reasons and opinion, remember you said Vieri had a better goal rate than all the strikers including Cruz, which I then replied something like "you must be stupid to compare Vieri to Cruz because it's obvious Vieri will score more goal since he's no1 striker" and then you try to defend yourself by implying Cruz is of some quality with, in fact you didn't even reply to my last post, so don't bring it up back here if you're not gonna finish what you started. You still don't seem to understand the joke behind why I brought it up in the first place, so until you figure that out, you won't be getting anywhere. So for the friggin last time, it was ironic for you to stop responding to elcino on the basis that you reckon he rates Cruz as quality, when you did the same thing. If the jokes not funny then it's my fault as a comedian OK?

[nismo]

It's doubtful that both Davids and Cristiano can co-exist as Veron seems certain to be an automatic starter in the centre and Mancini favours the 4-4-2 formation.
Agreed, no way is Mancini stupid enough to put two defensive midfielders in the middle unless in an emergency. And with CZ obviously being the weaker of the two, Davids is numero uno :D

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

It's doubtful that both Davids and Cristiano can co-exist as Veron seems certain to be an automatic starter in the centre and Mancini favours the 4-4-2 formation.



Well that's if Mancini decides to use the 4-4-2 formation but IMO i think he should field a 4-3-1-2 with CZ playing in the middle, Davids on the left hand side and Veron playing behind 2 strikers.Anyways no one knows what formation or line-up that Mancini will field but i'm pretty sure C.Zanetti will get his playing time like he usually gets.

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

hahaha "who are you trying to fool" another of the lines cv32 has "stole" and "copied" to use it back on me after I've used it on him so many times, man you're really lacking when it comes to originality arent ya?
cv32, please don't go back to that arguement about "Vieri the best over 5 years, no one comes close" B/S you're on about, I already gave you my reasons and opinion, remember you said Vieri had a better goal rate than all the strikers including Cruz, which I then replied something like "you must be stupid to compare Vieri to Cruz because it's obvious Vieri will score more goal since he's no1 striker" and then you try to defend yourself by implying Cruz is of some quality with, in fact you didn't even reply to my last post, so don't bring it up back here if you're not gonna finish what you started. You still don't seem to understand the joke behind why I brought it up in the first place, so until you figure that out, you won't be getting anywhere. So for the friggin last time, it was ironic for you to stop responding to elcino on the basis that you reckon he rates Cruz as quality, when you did the same thing. If the jokes not funny then it's my fault as a comedian OK?




Haha, this post is more of you trying to expose me of some what you think i got myself in a mess being a hypocrite and all. I can't actually believe your the one calling me desperate. save it for the playground nismo.

[nismo]

Haha, this post is more of you trying to expose me of some what you think i got myself in a mess being a hypocrite and all. I can't actually believe your the one calling me desperate. save it for the playground nismo.
"expose", "hypocrite" What are you on about exactly?? I can't understand what you're trying to say :confused:
Can you please point where I used the word "desperate" in my post?? What mess am I trying to prove? In fact I think I said I was trying to make a joke, which you obviously didn't get. So why don't you look up what does the word "desperate" means in the dictionary first, because your post doesn't make any sense.

[_mR aSj_]

i was really happy to read this

Words of Inter pres. Massimo Moratti
Burdisso was applauded by the fans when he came off. Perhaps they didn't know him very well or hadn't seen him play. Instead, he has impressed with every match...
"Burdisso gives the impression that he's a solid and quality player. For a fan who follows football passionately, this is a noteworthy talent. He also has tempo, sense of position; let's hope he continues like this. But in Argentina he had already showed he has these talents, so he will continue to do well with us."
this delites me heaps not only that the fact inter played well as a whole. but i really want to see burdisso play well n make a name for himself
:)

[Il fenomeno]

He just does not seem to understand this. Davids is a better player than cristiano any day... what is it that you cannot fathom? this is an undisputed fact. Recoba has to play,, everyone knows his potential... Mancini would have to find room for him.

one more thing, after have seen Burdisso play, I think he should be the first player to be penned into the first XI. This guy is a monster.... and cordoba, cannavaro and materazzi will have to fight for the second place...

[GiorgioII]

That's great Il Fenomeno. I thought that he would surprise a few people, but I always had a feeling after watching him for Boca that he could make the first choice team at Inter.

We should just end this Davids or CZ argument. As far as we all can see Davids will be in the team and CZ won't.

CV32, it's fair enough you saying that you want Mancini to play a 4-3-1-2 and that way CZ and Davids can be in the team, but Mancini is yet to play that formation in pre-season so I'm quite sure it will be a 4-4-2 that we play...so no CZ :D

[#1 Recoba fan]

Recoba makes great diagonal runs from the right, so he if he does get fielded on the left, he should definitely be given the freedom to move around as he pleases. Maybe in a perfect world he could just line up in the middle, but its up to Mancini to tell if that would be best for the team.
It would be great to see recoba line up in the middle but he would be swallowed up.He isn't strong enough to compete in the middle.Towards the end of last season Zac was preparing recoba to play in the centre.they were starting to work on his defensive skills and his strength.Mancini seems to have other ideas for Recoba.That is probably one of my main reasons for thinking he should play on the left.If he can strengthen up than I believe Recoba would be ideal in the center.

[#1 Recoba fan]

It's doubtful that both Davids and Cristiano can co-exist as Veron seems certain to be an automatic starter in the centre and Mancini favours the 4-4-2 formation.
If Mancini plays a 4-4-2 with Veron than there will be no place for Stankovic, and stankovic has to play.It should go.


============================Toldo=========================


===Cordoba=========Burdisso=========Cannavaro=========Coco====


==========================C.Zanetti========================= (davids)


===J.Zanetti========================================Recoba===


===============Stankovic=============Veron==================


===========================Adriano=========================
(Vieri)
(Martins)

[_mR aSj_]

------------------------TOLDO------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
---ZANETTi------BURDISSO--------CANNOVARO-----COCO---
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------DAVIDS-----------------------------
-----VANDERMAYDE-----------------------STANKOVIC-------
-------------------------VERON-----------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------VIERI--------------ADRIANO----------------
------------------------------------------------------------
this would be my formation.

recoba#1 bro i dont like ur formation we need 2 strikers
and recoba at the moment doesnt deserve a poistion on the field. he still has to find constistancy(sowie cant spell :rolling: )
thaz how my formation would be. and as Il fenomeno said Burdisso is what our back four should be based around. his a brillant player. he should be paired up with Cannovaro in the middle. this would make it one of the worlds strongest backlines, midfields and a attack to die for

[GiorgioII]

With the players we currently have, not counting Cesar in other words, blacknblue4lyfe's formation is what I would go for also, except I would fit Cordoba somewhere into that defensive line, either instead of Coco or Cannavaro. If Recoba finds some consistency then he can go LW and Stankovic can go RW.

[doz]

I also like the look of bLaCkNbLue4LyFe's team except that like Giorgio i think Cordoba has to be present in the back line. It's possible that he might be fielded at left back. I also wonder whether Adriano and Vieri can co-exist. Personally i prefer an Adriano-Recoba or an Adriano-Martins front line.

[GiorgioII]

I also like the look of bLaCkNbLue4LyFe's team except that like Giorgio i think Cordoba has to be present in the back line. It's possible that he might be fielded at left back. I also wonder whether Adriano and Vieri can co-exist. Personally i prefer an Adriano-Recoba or an Adriano-Martins front line.

I have doubted the co-existion of these two players for a long time and I too would prefer Adriano partnered by one of those two other forwards. But it is inevitable that Mancini will start with Vieri up front. Anyway, they may surprise us and strike up a great rapport.

[Sebastian]

------------------------TOLDO------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
---ZANETTi------BURDISSO--------CANNOVARO-----COCO---
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------DAVIDS-----------------------------
-----VANDERMAYDE-----------------------STANKOVIC-------
-------------------------VERON-----------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------VIERI--------------ADRIANO----------------
------------------------------------------------------------
this would be my formation.

recoba#1 bro i dont like ur formation we need 2 strikers
and recoba at the moment doesnt deserve a poistion on the field. he still has to find constistancy(sowie cant spell :rolling: )
thaz how my formation would be. and as Il fenomeno said Burdisso is what our back four should be based around. his a brillant player. he should be paired up with Cannovaro in the middle. this would make it one of the worlds strongest backlines, midfields and a attack to die for

RECOBA doesnt deserve a possition in the field and VIERI does eh???....:silly:....:ronaldo:...pal...RECOBA has newer embarassed him self that much lioke BOBO did last season and in the EURO 04'.....;).......there's no way that MACNIO will leave RECOBA bihind that impotent but head.....:evil:....even Zac insisted with him in the begining but when he realised that BOBO doesnt make a diference between the ball and a head...he screw him....i dont think that MANCINI will repeat the same mistake again....Zac lost too much with isnisting with VIERI...:rolleyes:....

[Sebastian]

I have doubted the co-existion of these two players for a long time and I too would prefer Adriano partnered by one of those two other forwards. But it is inevitable that Mancini will start with Vieri up front. Anyway, they may surprise us and strike up a great rapport.

inevitable????....not at all..:smoking:...if not with RECOBA...than with MARTINS....it's not strange nor surprising to claim that MARTINS-ADRIANO can be the best possible alternative and solution for the forward coordination....still RECOBA is a litlle bit more usefull with the corners and the free kick...it's allways helpfull to have a free kick specialist in those eleven....he has a better technique...but MARTINS is a huge impact on the team.....i wont think twice to replace RECOBA with MARTINS or even start the game with MARTINS and keep him there for all 90 min...:evil:....with RECOBA na d MARTINS i dont know what the hell is VIERI thinkin....:confused:....if RECOBA isnt in form MARTINS will be...this WONDER KID is allways on form...and i cant wait to see the humiliation on BOBO'S face when MARTINS starts the game instead of him....:ronaldo:...MANCINI knows what an ideal forward looks like....he wont play with two powerhouses....VIERI is just a powerhoue and ADRIANO is much more than that...much more....you need a striker like ADRIANO....(who is obviously not as fast as RECOBA and aspecially not like MARTINS)...to be partnered with a skillfull HYPER fast and technicly refined forward....VIERI doesnt fit in this picture....lot of people said a pot of nonsense...he is MANCINI's friend and that's why his place is guaranteed....:rolleyes:...really????...MANCINI's BEST FREINDS will be the best players...and VIERI isnt...we will see that arrogant giant with his eyes thundering once more like last season...but this time it'll be his last....:evil:....

[Sebastian]

...well it's official MIHAJLOVIC has joined his ex team mates...:smoking:....he's a bit old but he's free kicks and aspecially cprners are the youngest in the world....:evil:....+ ZE MARIA is arriving tomorow in MILAN to pen a two year deal with INTER...he's a marwellous right full back...who can play equally good on the left....MILAN wanned him...but it seems that INTER is more convincing....:p...:smoking:...:evil:...onmly CESAR is lacking....

[GiorgioII]

I hope you're right eLcino about Mancini and not picking Vieri.

Ze Maria??A good or bad signing??I can't decide. Where exactly is he going to play??We have JZ for RB. I don't think Ze Maria will be happy to accept a subs role.

[devious]

I hope you're right eLcino about Mancini and not picking Vieri.

Ze Maria??A good or bad signing??I can't decide. Where exactly is he going to play??We have JZ for RB. I don't think Ze Maria will be happy to accept a subs role.
We no win a big problem?? :confused: we had about two professional perfect players in every position!! some of you will think that`s a god thing.. but the problem is we had to consetrate on ONE formation that the team can performe well with it!!

[Slavenik]

Agreed, too much competetion might be a motivation to the players to perform well, but it also brings disapointment and angryness. VDM was a pure example.

[nismo]

If Mancini plays a 4-4-2 with Veron than there will be no place for Stankovic, and stankovic has to play.It should go.


============================Toldo=========================


===Cordoba=========Burdisso=========Cannavaro=========Coco====


==========================C.Zanetti========================= (davids)


===J.Zanetti========================================Recoba===


===============Stankovic=============Veron==================


===========================Adriano=========================
(Vieri)
(Martins)
No offense buddy, but your formation is really.....weird
Neither Veron or Stankovic are true trequartista's like Kaka and Ronaldinho or someone like that, plus JZ is best deployed at rightback. There's no way CZ should start ahead of Davids, and Recoba should not be used on the wing after what we saw in previous seasons, lastly I think we should play with 2 forwards. Apart from that :thumbsup: :D

[nismo]

I have doubted the co-existion of these two players for a long time and I too would prefer Adriano partnered by one of those two other forwards. But it is inevitable that Mancini will start with Vieri up front. Anyway, they may surprise us and strike up a great rapport.
Agreed, but with that in mind, Zac was also at fault with how he fielded the two together, I mean he played with a 3-man trident, with Adriano out on wing!! I think if executed like Cuper's Crespo-Vieri or Parriera's Adriano-Fabiano style, there's a chance they can co-exist, but that's in theory of course :D

[nismo]

...well it's official MIHAJLOVIC has joined his ex team mates...:smoking:....he's a bit old but he's free kicks and aspecially cprners are the youngest in the world....:evil:....+ ZE MARIA is arriving tomorow in MILAN to pen a two year deal with INTER...he's a marwellous right full back...who can play equally good on the left....MILAN wanned him...but it seems that INTER is more convincing....:p...:smoking:...:evil:...onmly CESAR is lacking....
If Cesar arrives or doesn't arrive it won't matter too much I think. We can always use VDM on right wing, and Deki on the left. In fact, VDM performed well in the Birra Moretti's Cup, so Mancio certainly has plans to use him in some capacity

[_mR aSj_]

Originally Posted by eLcino
RECOBA doesnt deserve a possition in the field and VIERI does eh???...........pal...RECOBA has newer embarassed him self that much lioke BOBO did last season and in the EURO 04'............there's no way that MACNIO will leave RECOBA bihind that impotent but head.........even Zac insisted with him in the begining but when he realised that BOBO doesnt make a diference between the ball and a head...he screw him....i dont think that MANCINI will repeat the same mistake again....Zac lost too much with isnisting with VIERI.......

bro vieri did pretty well last year just at the end of the season he didnt do to well. n when his bad his still makes chances n creates. as for recoba when he plays bad his real bad. n when his good his real good, but him playing well over 3 games is like the same chance that Totti will be sold to Inter for free. i hope recoba can prove me wrong.
just look at the figures at what vieri did last year he performed well if u compare the games Vs goals ratio.
just his off field problems started effecting his performance n if he had an alright game ppl would jump on his back n say he had a poor game. at every moment the media picked on him n took the micky out of him. and this u noe leads to bad performances and if you have to much pressure on your shoulders, its hard to perform.

[GiorgioII]

I don't think Vieri had a bad season either. But Adriano's talent is unquestionable and if these two don't form a good partnership I expect it to be Vieri who is replaced by Martins or Recoba.
I would have expected Mancini to at least start the season with Vieri and Adriano up front together, but with Vieri injured it may turn out that one of Martins or Recoba is given a chance and Vieri can't get back in the team.

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

Recoba is about as creative as nismo's momma jokes.

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

bro vieri did pretty well last year just at the end of the season he didnt do to well. n when his bad his still makes chances n creates. as for recoba when he plays bad his real bad. n when his good his real good, but him playing well over 3 games is like the same chance that Totti will be sold to Inter for free. i hope recoba can prove me wrong.
just look at the figures at what vieri did last year he performed well if u compare the games Vs goals ratio.
just his off field problems started effecting his performance n if he had an alright game ppl would jump on his back n say he had a poor game. at every moment the media picked on him n took the micky out of him. and this u noe leads to bad performances and if you have to much pressure on your shoulders, its hard to perform.




Just like i said. people who think Vieri sucks have only been watching him for the past 6 months yet in the end his record still shows what a quality player he is. even after injury,adriano, and Zaccheroni Bobo has still scored 17 odd goals.

[Ryan27]

I'm seeing some odd formations or just curious personnel decisions like fielding VDM as a RCM in a diamond midfield. I do think that especially the central defense as well as other positions are somewhat wide open as there are several quality options out there, so that aside, this is how I'd be inclined to line them up:

Toldo
Canna/Cordoba-------Matrix/Burdisso
J. Zanetti-------------------------------------------Coco/Favalli
Davids/Cambiasso
Stanko/Karagns/Veron---------------Emre/Stanko/Veron
Veron/Recoba
Adriano/Vieri--------Recoba/Martins


OR

Toldo
Canna/Cordoba-------Matrix/Burdisso
J. Zanetti-------------------------------------------Coco/Favalli

Davids/Emre-------Veron/Stanko
VDM/Karagns/Stanko----------------------------Recoba/Stanko/Cesar?

Vieri/Martins------Adriano


So I think this Inter team should be interchangeable between the diamond and the straight 4-4-2. Oh and I didn't bother to include Cristiano....cause while I think he is very sound technically, his lack of athleticism causes me to prefer others.

[#1 Recoba fan]

------------------------TOLDO------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
---ZANETTi------BURDISSO--------CANNOVARO-----COCO---
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------DAVIDS-----------------------------
-----VANDERMAYDE-----------------------STANKOVIC-------
-------------------------VERON-----------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------VIERI--------------ADRIANO----------------
------------------------------------------------------------
this would be my formation.

recoba#1 bro i dont like ur formation we need 2 strikers
and recoba at the moment doesnt deserve a poistion on the field. he still has to find constistancy(sowie cant spell :rolling: )
thaz how my formation would be. and as Il fenomeno said Burdisso is what our back four should be based around. his a brillant player. he should be paired up with Cannovaro in the middle. this would make it one of the worlds strongest backlines, midfields and a attack to die for
Fare enough.Your probably right.I only put down that formation to fit in Stankovic and Veron.if we went with your formation I would put Recoba in with Adriano because Adriano and Vieri cant play together and Adriano is on much better form than Vieri.It seems like mancini is planning to play Recoba so it will be him up front with Adriano and I think Mancini is thinking of sending Martins out on loan.

[GiorgioII]

No way, I can guarantee you that Martins will not be loaned out ;)

[nismo]

Recoba is about as creative as nismo's momma jokes.
Well then we can expect big things from Recoba this season then, cause you gotta admit that momma joke was ingenius when I used it to make your insult backfire :p

If only the quality of your posts was half as good as your sense of humour :rolleyes:

[nismo]

I'm seeing some odd formations or just curious personnel decisions like fielding VDM as a RCM in a diamond midfield. I do think that especially the central defense as well as other positions are somewhat wide open as there are several quality options out there, so that aside, this is how I'd be inclined to line them up:

Toldo
Canna/Cordoba-------Matrix/Burdisso
J. Zanetti-------------------------------------------Coco/Favalli
Davids/Cambiasso
Stanko/Karagns/Veron---------------Emre/Stanko/Veron
Veron/Recoba
Adriano/Vieri--------Recoba/Martins


OR

Toldo
Canna/Cordoba-------Matrix/Burdisso
J. Zanetti-------------------------------------------Coco/Favalli

Davids/Emre-------Veron/Stanko
VDM/Karagns/Stanko----------------------------Recoba/Stanko/Cesar?

Vieri/Martins------Adriano


So I think this Inter team should be interchangeable between the diamond and the straight 4-4-2. Oh and I didn't bother to include Cristiano....cause while I think he is very sound technically, his lack of athleticism causes me to prefer others.
Whoa! That's a lotta permutations you've got there buddy :D
I like your second formation because I feel the 4-4-2 is better to utilise our players, since we still lack that elusive worldclass trequartista.

[nismo]

Fare enough.Your probably right.I only put down that formation to fit in Stankovic and Veron.if we went with your formation I would put Recoba in with Adriano because Adriano and Vieri cant play together and Adriano is on much better form than Vieri.It seems like mancini is planning to play Recoba so it will be him up front with Adriano and I think Mancini is thinking of sending Martins out on loan.
Well we've yet to see Mancio try Vieri and Adriano out together, so we can't make a final judgement just yet, but with that said I still reckon a Recoba-Adriano duo can be more effective.
There's no way Martins will be loaned, during the training matches and friendly matches Martins has been one of the best performers, in fact he got MVP for the TIM Cup. I think Mancio has seen enough to recognise his importance to the team

[#1 Recoba fan]

Well we've yet to see Mancio try Vieri and Adriano out together, so we can't make a final judgement just yet, but with that said I still reckon a Recoba-Adriano duo can be more effective.
There's no way Martins will be loaned, during the training matches and friendly matches Martins has been one of the best performers, in fact he got MVP for the TIM Cup. I think Mancio has seen enough to recognise his importance to the team
Hopefully your right.What is Mancini going to do with Ventola.Is he going to be loaned out again or is he going to get a place in the squad.Hopefully he will stay in the squad for the season because we know what he can do so it will be interesting to see.

[adrianofan]

Ventola was good to have.... five years ago when he had potential. Now the guy is around 26... I think it's too late for him to become anything. Might as well sell him. If we sold Kallon, I don't see why we shouldn't sell Ventola. Why have him when we already have Adriano and Obafemi Martins set for the future? Adriano is world-class, Martins is way ahead of Ventola already, there's no need to have Ventola... he's not a prospect anymore.

[Ryan27]

Whoa! That's a lotta permutations you've got there buddy :D
I like your second formation because I feel the 4-4-2 is better to utilise our players, since we still lack that elusive worldclass trequartista.

Heh ya, the "permutations" are necessary because we've such a large squad and players that shouldn't be ruled out. And with Inter, it is likely that we'll be flooded with injuries once again this season :rolleyes: . I didn't want to be like most everyone else and completely forget about Emre and Karagounis and others.

Anyway, 4-4-2 is a proven formation and will mop up the smaller/average teams...but I always worry about it being too predictable against other top clubs. It was one of my theories about Cuper always finishing second (whether it be in the scudetto race or with Valencia or Inter in CL)...but then I'm sure Mancini's would be different from Hector's.

[GiorgioII]

The 4-4-2 is the best formation.

Ryan, all of the best teams play with a 4-4-2. Even Milan. Although on paper they look more like a diamond our midfield is very similar to theirs.

Pirlo we have Veron, a deep lying playmaker
Gattuso we have Davids
Seedorf we have Emre
Kaka we have Stankovic

Anyway, the basic point is that the 4-4-2 may look rigid, we have some top quality, versatile players which can alter formations and therefore destroy any opposition.

[thrylosgate7]

line-up for inter that should frighten all teams competing in european competition this year:


toldo
zanetti j.
cordoba
materazzi
cannavaro
karagounis
davids
stankovic
ze maria
adriano
martins
Vieri's time is up. too slow and he is not what we used to be. runs in a straight line. could be used in champions league. Maybe? so many options but veron can be thrown in there in place of stankovic.

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

line-up for inter that should frighten all teams competing in european competition this year:


toldo
zanetti j.
cordoba
materazzi
cannavaro
karagounis
davids
stankovic
ze maria
adriano
martins
Vieri's time is up. too slow and he is not what we used to be. runs in a straight line. could be used in champions league. Maybe? so many options but veron can be thrown in there in place of stankovic.



No matter how much you watn or think, Vieri will be in the starting 11 easily so too bad.

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

Ventola was good to have.... five years ago when he had potential. Now the guy is around 26... I think it's too late for him to become anything. Might as well sell him. If we sold Kallon, I don't see why we shouldn't sell Ventola. Why have him when we already have Adriano and Obafemi Martins set for the future? Adriano is world-class, Martins is way ahead of Ventola already, there's no need to have Ventola... he's not a prospect anymore.




Ventola is quality only injury has prevented him from becoming a better player. He was loaned out too many times from Inter but he is a great coming off the bench impact player. Very useful in game situations where the team needs a goal.

[Ryan27]

The 4-4-2 is the best formation.

Ryan, all of the best teams play with a 4-4-2. Even Milan. Although on paper they look more like a diamond our midfield is very similar to theirs.

Pirlo we have Veron, a deep lying playmaker
Gattuso we have Davids
Seedorf we have Emre
Kaka we have Stankovic

Anyway, the basic point is that the 4-4-2 may look rigid, we have some top quality, versatile players which can alter formations and therefore destroy any opposition.

Yeah...Giorgio I'm going to have to disagree...you seem to be confused...just because there are 4 at the back doesn't mean its a 4-4-2. Milan's most frequented formation is not a 4-4-2, rather its what tacticians would call a 4-3-1-2, or, that term you danced with briefly, a diamond midfield. And while again, 4-4-2 is a very prominent formation in the world of football, there are lots of big clubs that use other ones or at the very least have their own variation of it (and Milan's 4-3-1-2 would not be considered a variation, but rather a completely different formation). Real Madrid and Barcelona, for example, have frequently used formations other than a 4-4-2. Real Madrid's last season often resembled a 4-2-3-1 (though sometimes a 4-4-2 as well) and Mr. Rikjaard had some very "interesting" tactical theories with his Catalan side. Capello did not always use a 4-4-2 at Roma a year ago, like on occasions when he tried to use Totti, Cassano, and Carew all at once. Even the English Man Utd have used a 4-5-1 often with Ruud alone in front. You do recognize at least though that versatile guys can change the 4-4-2 by themselves, like Nedved on the left at Juve (or with his national size) or Zidane sometimes on the left at Real. Stankovic would fit into this category as well...speaking of Dejan, I'm a little surprised/shocked that you tried to pass him off as similar to Kaka...

Anyway, a strict 4-4-2 is fine, I just get worried when teams stick to it too obediently, just as some complained that Zac stuck to his 3 man defensive module too stubbornly. The team should be flexible and interchangable between at least a couple different formations, and I'm happy to say that I think Mancini will do this. I can think of a certain Jacques Santini's France squad that desperately needing to try something different as there's no excuse for a team that talented to be so predictable.

[Ryan27]

Ventola is quality only injury has prevented him from becoming a better player. He was loaned out too many times from Inter but he is a great coming off the bench impact player. Very useful in game situations where the team needs a goal.

I'm not sure if its just because everyone else is unavailable, but Mancini seems to like him, so maybe he'll be kept around as a backup. I would think Ventola would have the right attitude for such a role. I know nothing about Choutos, so I'd rather have Ventola than him.

[adrianofan]

Ventola is definately a better option than Choutos I agree... I guess we could keep him but of course, at Inter, he's going to be getting very few appearances (only in unimportant games where Inter needs to rest Adriano and Vieri or just in case, someone gets injured.... Vieri for eg. is out so one of Ventola/Cruz might be used as a sub since it'll probably be Adriano-Martins for now until Vieri heals up. Adriano-Recoba might be a good idea while Vieri is out so that Recoba can find his inconsistency for now but Martins needs to see a fair bit of action while hes young.

[_mR aSj_]

Originally Posted by thrylosgate7
Vieri's time is up. too slow and he is not what we used to be. runs in a straight line. could be used in champions league. Maybe? so many options but veron can be thrown in there in place of stankovic.

sorry dude but thats a load of shit, his still a wicked player. theres so many people here that doubt him :( , which is wrong. look what his done and he has heaps to offer to Inter. i just hope he can prove the world wrong how good he is. dont forget on a number of occasions last season he was named by many top professionals as the best centre forward in the game. no1 in seria a can match him. if he gains full fitness man ppl better watch out. there will be hell to pay if he gets to his form.

[GiorgioII]

Yeah...Giorgio I'm going to have to disagree...you seem to be confused...just because there are 4 at the back doesn't mean its a 4-4-2. Milan's most frequented formation is not a 4-4-2, rather its what tacticians would call a 4-3-1-2, or, that term you danced with briefly, a diamond midfield. And while again, 4-4-2 is a very prominent formation in the world of football, there are lots of big clubs that use other ones or at the very least have their own variation of it (and Milan's 4-3-1-2 would not be considered a variation, but rather a completely different formation). Real Madrid and Barcelona, for example, have frequently used formations other than a 4-4-2. Real Madrid's last season often resembled a 4-2-3-1 (though sometimes a 4-4-2 as well) and Mr. Rikjaard had some very "interesting" tactical theories with his Catalan side. Capello did not always use a 4-4-2 at Roma a year ago, like on occasions when he tried to use Totti, Cassano, and Carew all at once. Even the English Man Utd have used a 4-5-1 often with Ruud alone in front. You do recognize at least though that versatile guys can change the 4-4-2 by themselves, like Nedved on the left at Juve (or with his national size) or Zidane sometimes on the left at Real. Stankovic would fit into this category as well...speaking of Dejan, I'm a little surprised/shocked that you tried to pass him off as similar to Kaka...

Anyway, a strict 4-4-2 is fine, I just get worried when teams stick to it too obediently, just as some complained that Zac stuck to his 3 man defensive module too stubbornly. The team should be flexible and interchangable between at least a couple different formations, and I'm happy to say that I think Mancini will do this. I can think of a certain Jacques Santini's France squad that desperately needing to try something different as there's no excuse for a team that talented to be so predictable.

I appreciate that Milan's line-up is a 4-3-1-2 on paper and most of the time they do play with this formation, but with the players they have they can inter-change like you said. What I am saying is that although we may line-up with a rather rigid flat 4 midfield, with the players we have, our midfield will be unpredictable and like you said I'm sure Mancini will change the formation occasionally anyway. Although I think he will probably always stick to the 4 man back line.

[_mR aSj_]

milans gonna be shit in a few years, there whole back line is going to be revampted in a few years. cafu, stam, maldini are gonna retire. and there all class payers. that only have a few years to go, just get players like martins to run around them would surly screw them over coz of there old legs

[GiorgioII]

The last few times we have played Milan they have managed to beat the likes of Vieri and Crespo as they had Maldini and Nesta, two very strong players in the air. Oba has looked like the only player capable of hurting the Milan defence and I'm sure Adriano will be able to hurt them also.

[#1 Recoba fan]

Once Maldini goes milan are screwed at the back.They seem to have no intention to get youth in the back line.There all over thirty apart from Nesta.Martins is definitly the player to embarres the old boys at milan.They cant handle him.Any time he playes against them he tears Maldini apart.

[nismo]

I'm not sure if its just because everyone else is unavailable, but Mancini seems to like him, so maybe he'll be kept around as a backup. I would think Ventola would have the right attitude for such a role. I know nothing about Choutos, so I'd rather have Ventola than him.
Agreed, Ventola would be the safe bet as the 4/5th choice striker. Choutos is an unknown quantity in Serie A, despite his Roma youth team experience, it's still risky to rely on him. Ventola is playing the cards dealt to him, he's been rocked by some horrific injuries which has seriously hampered his development. In the past he was today's version of Gilardino, now he'll be proud to be compared to Heskey.

[GiorgioII]

I don't think Ventola ever reached the heights that Gilardino is at now. I think Mancini seems to be quite keen on Ventola, so perhaps with a new coach he can maybe begin making those great impacts he used to make after coming off the bench.

[nismo]

Heh ya, the "permutations" are necessary because we've such a large squad and players that shouldn't be ruled out. And with Inter, it is likely that we'll be flooded with injuries once again this season :rolleyes: . I didn't want to be like most everyone else and completely forget about Emre and Karagounis and others.

Anyway, 4-4-2 is a proven formation and will mop up the smaller/average teams...but I always worry about it being too predictable against other top clubs. It was one of my theories about Cuper always finishing second (whether it be in the scudetto race or with Valencia or Inter in CL)...but then I'm sure Mancini's would be different from Hector's.
With Mancio's new trainers, I hopeful we'll be more lucky on the injury side of things :D

I think you're looking at the 4-4-2 in a literal sense, meaning mass reliance on wingers. IMO the coach's tactical outlook is more important than what kind of formation he uses. The 4-4-2 doesn't have to be a strict structure, it might have the appearance of being ordinary but the potential is there to harness something so much more. Arsenal play with a 4-4-2 on paper but in action it's anything other than an orthodox 4-4-2. The formation should be of least concern when it comes to matches against the big teams, IMO the mindset and tactics chosen is paramount which is why I reckon Cuper lost it against his rivals since he was prepared to let his team suffer on all levels as long as a favourable result ends :confused: I don't think that just because a team uses 4-4-2 it should be perceived as preditable, whatever the team may be. Mancio's 4-4-2 is comparable to Wenger's formation in that he doesn't use wingers par se, there's a lot of variation and movement granted to his players to move the ball around subsequently allowing the 'wingers' inward penetration if need be.

[nismo]

I don't think Ventola ever reached the heights that Gilardino is at now. I think Mancini seems to be quite keen on Ventola, so perhaps with a new coach he can maybe begin making those great impacts he used to make after coming off the bench.
I'm not talking about the same physical levels, but rather he was regarded in the same manner as the next big thing

[GiorgioII]

I'm not talking about the same physical levels, but rather he was regarded in the same manner as the next big thing

Yeah ok. I see what you mean now, but Gilardino is starting to fulfill that expectation whereas I don't think Ventola ever did himself justice.

[nismo]

Yeah ok. I see what you mean now, but Gilardino is starting to fulfill that expectation whereas I don't think Ventola ever did himself justice.
Yeah, maybe if Ventola scored 23 goals in 98/99 things would've been different :D

[Massimo]

Players who should leave the club: Farinos & Kily. They just dont fit in... (IMO)

Players that we should loan (to a Serie A side of course) : Burdisso, Cambiasso, Choutos and Zicu. These are players that first of all should learn how to play in the Serie A...In a couple of years from now we'll see their true skills...and then we'll decide if they'll return or not.

There are two main dificulties in our formation next season. These are the problems Roberto Mancini will have to deal with....

1. The "Recoba" problem. Is he going to place him as a true striker? And what about Vieri and Adriano? Is he going to play with the three of them at once? Or maybe Recoba will play behind the other two....And we didnt mention the Left Wing position.....

2. The midfield "problem". How can you call this a problem? When you got so many great players in just one position...How will Mancini build his midfield? Davids....Stankovic....Veron....C.Zanetti....Emre....VDM.....Lamouchi......(Recoba?).....I Just hate the fact that someone will be left behind.

3. The defence problem. Same as the problem before, i mean look at the list:
Coco...J.Zanetti...Sorondo...Favalli....Cannavaro...Cordoba...Sinsia...Ze Maria....Materazzi...Adani.... But then again....we'll have a very nice bench.

4. The offence problem. This is connected to the Recoba problem....but here you have Vieri....will he be as good as we expect him to be? and what about the young Martins? Adriano.. :smoking: ...I dont have to say nothing about him right?


I wish Mancini could answer somehow....This is the guy that will build the formation...I mean there are so many options...anyway you'd look at it you'll miss something....I hope Roberto knows what hes doing.... :evil:

[#1 Recoba fan]

Players who should leave the club: Farinos & Kily. They just dont fit in... (IMO)

Players that we should loan (to a Serie A side of course) : Burdisso, Cambiasso, Choutos and Zicu. These are players that first of all should learn how to play in the Serie A...In a couple of years from now we'll see their true skills...and then we'll decide if they'll return or not.

There are two main dificulties in our formation next season. These are the problems Roberto Mancini will have to deal with....

1. The "Recoba" problem. Is he going to place him as a true striker? And what about Vieri and Adriano? Is he going to play with the three of them at once? Or maybe Recoba will play behind the other two....And we didnt mention the Left Wing position.....

2. The midfield "problem". How can you call this a problem? When you got so many great players in just one position...How will Mancini build his midfield? Davids....Stankovic....Veron....C.Zanetti....Emre....VDM.....Lamouchi......(Recoba?).....I Just hate the fact that someone will be left behind.

3. The defence problem. Same as the problem before, i mean look at the list:
Coco...J.Zanetti...Sorondo...Favalli....Cannavaro...Cordoba...Sinsia...Ze Maria....Materazzi...Adani.... But then again....we'll have a very nice bench.

4. The offence problem. This is connected to the Recoba problem....but here you have Vieri....will he be as good as we expect him to be? and what about the young Martins? Adriano.. :smoking: ...I dont have to say nothing about him right?


I wish Mancini could answer somehow....This is the guy that will build the formation...I mean there are so many options...anyway you'd look at it you'll miss something....I hope Roberto knows what hes doing.... :evil:
I agree with you on every point apart from one.I cant see how we can put Burdisso out on loan as he is almost assured a place in the starting line up.He has already showed his expierience in the Tim cup aginst Juve and Milan and also in the Intercontinental cup against Milan last season.When is the new season starting?With the twenty team Sirie A it has to start early.Otherwise,it will be the last league in europe to end as it is the league that starts the latest.I think.This may help us because ther are more small teams to beat to get more points and they are all going to try there hardest to beat Milan when they play them.

[thrylosgate7]

blackandblu4lyfe,
we all knew Vieri's time was up when we saw his Euro 2004
performance. His best has past and now its time to give the next fenomeno Adriano the chance to showcase his amazing talent. Moratti has to be aware of this. Vieri is done.

[thrylosgate7]

CV32,
think about it man. He cannot play up front with Adriano, they do not complement each other at all where as Martins provides the skill and dribbling, and pace that will accent Adriano's power and finishing ability. In all fairness man you can't have these two players in the starting eleven and I am positive Adriano is at Inter to stay. Vieri needs service, crosses to score and the only one that provided him with that was that Georgatos fellow about three or four years ago. He cannot dribble, where as Adriano takes on defenders even at midfield, and puts on a spectacle with his skill for a big striker. Lets face reality man, and speak the truth. Dont live in a dream world. Vieri is old news. Maybe its time for a move to England or something.

[nismo]

With such a busy season ahead, 38 league matches, as well as the Champs league and Coppa Italia we need a big squad to rotate players and rest key ones. Plus not to mention international duties, so it's important we have back-up just in case players don't recover in time.

[GiorgioII]

I think Vieri will have a part to play this season, how big this part will be is yet to be seen.

Massimo, I agree with #1 Recobafan I don't think Burdisso will be loaned out as he should play an important role this season.

[Massimo]

we're back online.... :smoking:

What was this sudden break-down? :shocked:

[Slavenik]

I think the admins were updating the vBulettin version. But anyways great to be back.

[nismo]

I think Vieri will have a part to play this season, how big this part will be is yet to be seen.

Massimo, I agree with #1 Recobafan I don't think Burdisso will be loaned out as he should play an important role this season.
I don't see why Burdisso should be loaned out too. Because apart from Materazzi, we're short of big CBs. Not sure about Adani. And Sinisia shouldn't be relied on

[Ryan27]

I don't see why Burdisso should be loaned out too. Because apart from Materazzi, we're short of big CBs. Not sure about Adani. And Sinisia shouldn't be relied on

Is Adani hurt? Cause I don't think he made the CL Qualifying list either...seems he is certainly on the way out.

[Ryan27]

CV32,
think about it man. He cannot play up front with Adriano, they do not complement each other at all where as Martins provides the skill and dribbling, and pace that will accent Adriano's power and finishing ability. In all fairness man you can't have these two players in the starting eleven and I am positive Adriano is at Inter to stay. Vieri needs service, crosses to score and the only one that provided him with that was that Georgatos fellow about three or four years ago. He cannot dribble, where as Adriano takes on defenders even at midfield, and puts on a spectacle with his skill for a big striker. Lets face reality man, and speak the truth. Dont live in a dream world. Vieri is old news. Maybe its time for a move to England or something.

Adriano can play with anyone; you say Martins has pace, but Adriano isn't exactly slow himself and most of us saw him work well with Fabiano. Its up to Vieri to decide if he can coexist with Adriano. If they can't, I think it'd be because he is simply getting old and not because of too similar playing styles or any crap like that. This would not be any sort of problem if this were Vieri in his prime...I think Vieri is still great, but getting old is just a shame...

[nismo]

Adriano can play with anyone; you say Martins has pace, but Adriano isn't exactly slow himself and most of us saw him work well with Fabiano. Its up to Vieri to decide if he can coexist with Adriano. If they can't, I think it'd be because he is simply getting old and not because of too similar playing styles or any crap like that. This would not be any sort of problem if this were Vieri in his prime...I think Vieri is still great, but getting old is just a shame...
Yeah, if Fabiano and Adriano can combine, there's hope Vieri-Adriano can work. It's also up to the coach to decide how Vieri and Adriano should play together, Cuper showed it's possible with the effective Vieri-Crespo duo. Getting old is a fact of life, unless there's a fountain of youth somewhere in the world (Shangrila???), everyone will have to face the inevitable, it's just how you react to it that's important. Vieri's biggest asset is his physical prowess, shooting technique and charging-bull acceleration, now it's apparent the first and the last will diminish with time so Vieri will have to use his instincts and experience to full effect in order to compensate.

[#1 Recoba fan]

Speaking of Adriano.Is he going to be back from Brazil for the Champions League qualifiers?If not than we only have two strikers left.Recoba and ventola.

[nismo]

Speaking of Adriano.Is he going to be back from Brazil for the Champions League qualifiers?If not than we only have two strikers left.Recoba and ventola.
Yes Inter.it has stated he'll be back in time. But I'm not sure if he'll be ready.

[GiorgioII]

Well I guess without Adriano we will probably line-up with Martins and Recoba with Ventola on the bench. We were saying before that we had too many forwards, but now it looks like we're only going to go into this clash with two top quality forwards as well as Ventola and Cruz for back up. Anyway, we should be fine ;)

[Slavenik]

But i think that Martins is not on the list :confused:

[Zek]

i think CL squad is the one just for two qualification games. Because I noticed that neither Burdisso nor Kily who're not in Athens are in that squad.

[GiorgioII]

But i think that Martins is not on the list :confused:

No, sorry Slavenik, my mistake. I forgot that Martins was injured. Zek is right, the squad is only for the 2 qualifying games and then we name a new squad of players. Our options up front are rather limited :worried: Cruz and Recoba would have to be my choice.

[nismo]

No, sorry Slavenik, my mistake. I forgot that Martins was injured. Zek is right, the squad is only for the 2 qualifying games and then we name a new squad of players. Our options up front are rather limited :worried: Cruz and Recoba would have to be my choice.
So then there's still time to include Cesar :) If we miss out when the CL proper begins, we'll have to wait until January, and that's hopinh he's not cup tied until then.
We have Ventola, Recoba, Cruz and Zicu, but out of these four I'd say two are ready to call upon. I think we should go for Ventola-Recoba.

[Slavenik]

Yes there is time to include Cesar. Probablt the next few days will be crucialfor the saga.

Against Basel, Recoba and Cruz can do just fine i think. Cruz did impress few times in trainings and traing matches.

[stefan99]

according to tgcom.it Adriano will be back in milano monday night and be at mancini's disposal for the cl game. Adriano-recoba is expected to start.

[GiorgioII]

according to tgcom.it Adriano will be back in milano monday night and be at mancini's disposal for the cl game. Adriano-recoba is expected to start.

Oh that's great news Stefan. I hope that his suffering makes him more determined to come out and play wonderful football for his late father.

[Slavenik]

But can players be added to the list?? That was the official list for the CL preliminary so are we allowed now to add Adriano to that list?

[GiorgioII]

I'm quite sure that Adriano was already on the list.

[thrylosgate7]

ryan27,
read carefully man. doesnt seem you know how to. adriano has power skill and pace combined where as vieri is like a horse that runs in a straight line, that needs service to score goals. what did they accomplish last year playing in the same starting eleven you ask? absolutely nothing. I'd even say recoba is a better candidate than vieri to partner adriano up front. face reality man. vieri is washed up and like I said euro 2004 proved it. game over!!!

[GiorgioII]

I agree that Recoba is a better partner for Vieri than Adriano, but I don't agree with all the bulshit you were writing about Ryan27. I think his intelligent analysis of players and some excellent posts prove that he most certainly can read :D

[thrylosgate7]

giorgio11
if ryan27 can call my analysis of the critiques i made on why martins and adriano will work better together calling it crap, I am sure i have an obligation to defend my posts. his posts have been good but dont ever call my posts crap.
ZHTO H ELLAS
Thrylosgate 7 Gia Panta
Ellas Ole Ellas Ole Euro Champs 2004

[GiorgioII]

Sorry thrylosgate7 I didn't realise that you two were enemies. I don't actually remember him saying that. Perhaps you just got the wrong end of the stick.

[thrylosgate7]

giorgio11
didnt say we were enemies man. just respect other peoples post. ehy dont you go back and read it.

[Sebastian]

....everyone should defend and stay bihind his posts...but without offending each others....keep it cool...;)..i personaly agree with thrylosgate7 about VIERI....he can not compete with MARTINS and aspecially RECOBA...:smoking:...

[#1 Recoba fan]

I think Recoba - Ventola would be the best partnership for the qualifiers unless Adriano is on the list and is ready.Although Cruz can play as a main striker upfront,he tends to have a habit of droping back to take up a creative role like the one Recoba does so that will mess everything up front.That is why i think Recoba - Ventola is the best partnership for the CL qalifiers.Either way,Recoba has to be one of the starting strikers.

[devious]

I think Recoba - Ventola would be the best partnership for the qualifiers unless Adriano is on the list and is ready.Although Cruz can play as a main striker upfront,he tends to have a habit of droping back to take up a creative role like the one Recoba does so that will mess everything up front.That is why i think Recoba - Ventola is the best partnership for the CL qalifiers.Either way,Recoba has to be one of the starting strikers.
Ventola!! I don`t know!! :worried: .. but I better chose Cruz for him.

[Slavenik]

I just read that Recoba and Adriano are likely to start.

[devious]

I just read that Recoba and Adriano are likely to start.
THAT`S BETTER!! I mean the best.. I hope Adriano will do well in this match.

[Ryan27]

ryan27,
read carefully man. doesnt seem you know how to. adriano has power skill and pace combined where as vieri is like a horse that runs in a straight line, that needs service to score goals. what did they accomplish last year playing in the same starting eleven you ask? absolutely nothing. I'd even say recoba is a better candidate than vieri to partner adriano up front. face reality man. vieri is washed up and like I said euro 2004 proved it. game over!!!

Hey take it easy guy, I can read just fine. It seems to me what you're talking about has less to do with two forwards "complementing" one another and more to do with you disliking a certain player (Vieri in this case), and this is all I was trying to say earlier. My other point was that as long as he sticks to his game, Adriano can play with absolutely anyone upfront, whether its Recoba, Vieri, or even Toldo. He is the complete striker and doesn't need to be "complemented". Its just a matter of whether or not whoever partners him can make a positive contribution or not...and this is what I meant when I said its up to Vieri to prove if he can do this. We are essentially in agreement that Vieri is not the player he once was...you just take it to a more extreme degree than I do by saying he is "washed up". Vieri, in his prime, could also play with anyone, as Adriano can today. Unfortunately, as we also agree, he is losing his legs and does require service to be effective as he can't score goals all by himself anymore like Adriano now does. I will not rule a great player like Vieri out, but its probable that Recoba and Martins would be better choices, but only because Vieri is 31 and not because he doesn't complement Adriano.

Sorry if I offended you, it certainly wasn't my intention.