Official Signings & Formation Set up 2006/07

[nismo]

Veron will be given all the chance he'll get under Mancini, but remember we have back-up in emre and deki too, so there's plenty of creativity going around. I wonder what plance mancini has for defense?? Will he keep the current defenders or look for a new CB??

[adrianofan]

Maybe look for a new CB as well... In the back four we could easy work well with
J. Zanetti -- Cannavaro -- Cordoba -- Favalli/Coco

But in the CB position, Cannavaro is injury prone and hes a bit too aggressive for my liking (two yellow cards already in euro)... I think we need another central defender in the line up to go with Cordoba just in case or something. So I think Mancini should look for a new CB... other than that, Inter is set for a 4-4-2 attacking formation as the central midfield is definately adequate as are the strikers (Vieri needs to get back into top-notch form though...we also have Martins who would be a great sub there) and the wing would work as well (van der Meyde needs to get some playtime and Stankovic would be able to utilize his offensive talents and scoring instinct on the wing).. If things go this way, Inter will be a solid attacking force in the Serie A (with adequate defense but I'm pretty sure this team will lean more to the attack).

[Sebastian]

...im not so sure...that MANCIO will play two dwarfs in the central back....MATERAZZI's place will be guranteed....:evil:...

[stefan99]

Rumours say mancini has told oriali(inter transfer guy) that he wants matteo ferrari as the centrall defender next season. It would be great to have ferrari back at inter.

[GiorgioII]

Yes I would welcome Ferrari with more than open arms!

[nismo]

...im not so sure...that MANCIO will play two dwarfs in the central back....MATERAZZI's place will be guranteed....:evil:...
Yeah, Mancini always favour at least 1 giant in defence. I wonder if he'll play cordoba at LB, like how he played Stam at RB??

[Musiq]

Alternately, he could also tell Moratti to give Cannavaro the boot...:D Personally, that's the way I'd prefer. We can milk some £10m from Juve or Real Madrid or whoever for Canna's services. At Inter he's never looked like the classy defender we knew. The best option would be to get rid of him and spend the money on a younger centre-back, or simply to balance the books.

Besides, now we have a player who's as consistent at the left-back position as Javier is on the right. Favalli should be our 1st choice for the left-back position now. Or after his umpteenth operation, this might finally be the season when Coco shines...

[nismo]

I don't want to see cannavaro leave. he's a personal favourite and one of the few truly worldclass defenders left. I hope mancini could spark some fire back in him this season. If he stays, I'm sure he'll be used ahead of cordoba. Favalli would probably be the first choice LB, which leaves a question mark over where cordoba fits into all of this.

[GiorgioII]

Canna is having a great Euro 2004 and should be kept.

[Musiq]

No he's not. The number of blunders he made against Sweden, it a miracle really that it remained a draw. My heart nearly stopped when he nearly scored that own goal. Believe me, it'll turn out better for Italy that he's been suspended for the Bulgaria match.

[Musiq]

I don't want to see cannavaro leave. he's a personal favourite and one of the few truly worldclass defenders left.


Maybe, but Cordoba's one of those truly effective defenders without a name left in football. A Materazzi-Cannavaro central defense is Waaaay to slow. It'd be completely susceptible to counter-attacks. Strikers like Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Di Vaio, etc. would be able to destroy us.


I hope mancini could spark some fire back in him this season. If he stays, I'm sure he'll be used ahead of cordoba. Favalli would probably be the first choice LB, which leaves a question mark over where cordoba fits into all of this.

IMO, It's Cordoba who should be the fixture in defence, not Cannavaro. I dunno, I still have misgiving about Cannavaro's capabilities.

[GiorgioII]

Canna did nearly score an own goal and wasn't as effective against Sweden but he was good against Denmark. I still think that he's having a good tournament, although I agree, Cordoba should be the more important of these two players.

[chu_chu]

Maybe, but Cordoba's one of those truly effective defenders without a name left in football. A Materazzi-Cannavaro central defense is Waaaay to slow. It'd be completely susceptible to counter-attacks. Strikers like Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Di Vaio, etc. would be able to destroy us.

IMO, It's Cordoba who should be the fixture in defence, not Cannavaro. I dunno, I still have misgiving about Cannavaro's capabilities.

inter are after ferrari.... carvalho will be a juve player soon.... (channel4)
ferrari cordoba and materazzi would be enough for us to compete with juve, milan, and roma...

you guys are right about cannavaro... i also would let him go if we can get ferrari... plus he wanted to join juve long time ago and capello are interested in him... we can use the money to sign a striker or midfield... but if player swap could happen... i would ask for zambrotta... the most important player we need from juve...

[GiorgioII]

If we get Ferrari then sure Canna can go. Somehow Chu Chu I don't think Juve are going to let Zambrotta go to readily.

[adrianofan]

After his Euro 2004 performance thus far, I'm convinced that Cannavaro should be sacrificed for Ferrari... He's totally out of place there with Nesta... Nesta makes lots of key headers and tackles... Cannavaro just scares the crap out of me with all the stupid challenges he makes (2 yellow cards already.... knocked a guy in the box in the denmark game without the ref even noticing)..

This guy is supposed to be Italy's captain and he plays like a brute? ... Probably because he's frustrated that the media thinks he doesn't deserve that spot... when asked if he'd still figure into the starting lineup if Maldini (a much better option in my opinion... though he didnt want to go I believe) were in Euro 2004, Cannavaro was saying something like "id still be there... before we had nesta, maldini and myself in defense" but obviously that was in the past, not now and trap isnt playing with 3 defense anymore...Anyway, I'm not saying hes unsportsmanlike (like Totti) but he really should be careful with those challenges... Good defense = clean tackles, good marking, key headers, etc (i.e Nesta) ... not playing overly aggressive and getting yellow cards.

[nismo]

Maybe, but Cordoba's one of those truly effective defenders without a name left in football. A Materazzi-Cannavaro central defense is Waaaay to slow. It'd be completely susceptible to counter-attacks. Strikers like Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Di Vaio, etc. would be able to destroy us.



IMO, It's Cordoba who should be the fixture in defence, not Cannavaro. I dunno, I still have misgiving about Cannavaro's capabilities.
In theory cordoba should always be in defence, but there's too much class in cannavaro to let him go. i don't know maybe i'm letting my emotions do all the thinking. there must be a way to have both cannavaro and cordoba in the same defence

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

Cannavaro having a bad Euro? What on earth are you people talking about? he was the best player aside from Zambrotta and buffon against Denmark who was stellar in defence. And against sweden he did the same thing. The only defender who was having a bad game was Nesta he was constantly burned everytime but Cannavaro kept up with great defending all game.hence, he has been one of the best defenders in the tournament thus far.

[chu_chu]

In theory cordoba should always be in defence, but there's too much class in cannavaro to let him go. i don't know maybe i'm letting my emotions do all the thinking. there must be a way to have both cannavaro and cordoba in the same defence

3 man defense... i think cordoba and cannavaro are weak in the 3 man defense...
4 man defense with cordoba as a left back...
4 man defense... with one of the players to play as a libero....? but i don't think we have a libero...

[nismo]

4 man defense with cordoba as LB seems to be the best, but somehow coco's place as LB is assured.

[GiorgioII]

Cannavaro having a bad Euro? What on earth are you people talking about? he was the best player aside from Zambrotta and buffon against Denmark who was stellar in defence. And against sweden he did the same thing. The only defender who was having a bad game was Nesta he was constantly burned everytime but Cannavaro kept up with great defending all game.hence, he has been one of the best defenders in the tournament thus far.

Yep I agree with you CV32. Canna is having a great Euro 2004. And yes better than Nesta's. Nesta is a lot bigger, but Canna has still been a lot more effective in the air against people a lot bigger than him.

[Musiq]

inter are after ferrari.... carvalho will be a juve player soon.... (channel4)
ferrari cordoba and materazzi would be enough for us to compete with juve, milan, and roma...


Indeed. Ferrari's a better option than Carvalho IMO. He's younger, he's already proven in Serie A, and he's an Italian International too at this age. Definitely a great option, but not a better one than Kompany. I mean, Kompany's a full fledged international, a regular fixture for Belgium, and he's not even old enough to legally watch porn in the US...:D


you guys are right about cannavaro... i also would let him go if we can get ferrari... plus he wanted to join juve long time ago and capello are interested in him... we can use the money to sign a striker or midfield... but if player swap could happen... i would ask for zambrotta... the most important player we need from juve...

LOL, I don't think Juventus will be willing to give up inarguably their best player for a player who hasn't played up to his name in three seasons. But yes, if we seriously want to sign Zambrotta, we can use Cannavaro as a pawn in the deal. A cash + Canna deal is a very good offer, though I'm not too sure if Juventus will want to let go of a player who's fast replacing Alex Del Piero as the symbol of Juventus.
We can do one more thing though. What if we tell Juventus that we'll withdraw from the Emerson race and leave their path clear to open their minds to a negotiation for Zambrotta?

[Musiq]

In theory cordoba should always be in defence, but there's too much class in cannavaro to let him go. i don't know maybe i'm letting my emotions do all the thinking. there must be a way to have both cannavaro and cordoba in the same defence
Well, they can play together in a three-man defence, but dear old Zac proved how ineffective that can be...:rolleyes:

And like you say, Coco's the Numero Uno choice for the left-back position, and in the occasion that he's unfit as usual, Favalli's a great and dependable alternative. Therefore, the LB spot is pretty much sewn up.

It's therefore clear - only one of Cannavaro and Cordoba can play at them same time. And my vote goes to Cordoba, who has proven to be much more reliable than Cannavaro.

CV32 is free to blast my words and proclaim me a mindless creature, I really couldn't care less....:rolleyes:

[Ryan27]

Cannavaro having a bad Euro? What on earth are you people talking about? he was the best player aside from Zambrotta and buffon against Denmark who was stellar in defence. And against sweden he did the same thing. The only defender who was having a bad game was Nesta he was constantly burned everytime but Cannavaro kept up with great defending all game.hence, he has been one of the best defenders in the tournament thus far.

Yeah, yellow cards aside, Cannavaro has played well. Only Zambrotta has been better.

[Ryan27]

Well, they can play together in a three-man defence, but dear old Zac proved how ineffective that can be...:rolleyes:

And like you say, Coco's the Numero Uno choice for the left-back position, and in the occasion that he's unfit as usual, Favalli's a great and dependable alternative. Therefore, the LB spot is pretty much sewn up.

It's therefore clear - only one of Cannavaro and Cordoba can play at them same time. And my vote goes to Cordoba, who has proven to be much more reliable than Cannavaro.

CV32 is free to blast my words and proclaim me a mindless creature, I really couldn't care less....:rolleyes:

I think a three man defense can work just fine if coached right...obviously Zac didn't do that job well enough though. And I saw somewhere here that it didn't allow for the wings like JZ enough attacking freedom, but I disagree. If Zambrotta and Panucci can roam the distance of the field with only two centerbacks for Italy, then I think they certainly can with 3. I just blame Zac for not maximizing the potential of his formation for whatever various reasons.

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

Well, they can play together in a three-man defence, but dear old Zac proved how ineffective that can be...:rolleyes:

And like you say, Coco's the Numero Uno choice for the left-back position, and in the occasion that he's unfit as usual, Favalli's a great and dependable alternative. Therefore, the LB spot is pretty much sewn up.

It's therefore clear - only one of Cannavaro and Cordoba can play at them same time. And my vote goes to Cordoba, who has proven to be much more reliable than Cannavaro.

CV32 is free to blast my words and proclaim me a mindless creature, I really couldn't care less....:rolleyes:




In all in fairness you still have your own opinion to say but.He had a shit year. All he has is speed.Other than that, nothing is really going on for him. If he plays like he did last season some other average player could easily take his position.

[nismo]

Well, they can play together in a three-man defence, but dear old Zac proved how ineffective that can be...:rolleyes:

And like you say, Coco's the Numero Uno choice for the left-back position, and in the occasion that he's unfit as usual, Favalli's a great and dependable alternative. Therefore, the LB spot is pretty much sewn up.

It's therefore clear - only one of Cannavaro and Cordoba can play at them same time. And my vote goes to Cordoba, who has proven to be much more reliable than Cannavaro.

CV32 is free to blast my words and proclaim me a mindless creature, I really couldn't care less....:rolleyes:
I was talking about in the context of Mancini's back 4. There must be a way for him and cannavaro is the same line-up i.e. at LB, but it's looking doubtful since I expect mancini to use favalli and coco ahead of cordoba. However he did use STam at RB so maybe he might use cordoba there

don't worry about cv32, he's biased more than anyone when it comes to foreigners.

[Musiq]

I was talking about in the context of Mancini's back 4. There must be a way for him and cannavaro is the same line-up i.e. at LB, but it's looking doubtful since I expect mancini to use favalli and coco ahead of cordoba. However he did use STam at RB so maybe he might use cordoba there


He used Stam on the RB spot only when he had a solid central defence of Nesta and Mihajlovic. Or did Nesta leave already? I'm not sure about that, but I'm pretty sure that Stam was only a temporary solution to the right-back position. Oddo was the fixture in that spot.

Anyway, Lazio aside, I think that Favalli's definitely the better left-back between him, Cordoba and Cannavaro. As for Coco, if he's ever fit, he's definitely the best option there. And there's not going to be a very big queue for the LB spot this season, seeing that Brechet and Pasquale are both gone on loan, while Kily will be used in his natural attacking role up the left-wing.

[Musiq]

Yeah, yellow cards aside, Cannavaro has played well. Only Zambrotta has been better.
No comment on Cannavaro. But yeah, Zambrotta never ceases to amaze me. Fabulous player...:thumbsup:

But our Vieri's not at his best at all. :( Those headers he missed are one he'd usually lap up and score with ease. I really hope he gets back into shape for Bulgaria. But somehow, after Totti's ejection, and Cassano's and Pirlo's introduction, the Azzurri's game seems to be more fluid than ever. I noticed this in the Tunisia friendly as well. In the second half, when Cassano was brought on for Totti, and Pirlo in the midfield, the Azzurri's possession play was clearly much better than in the 1st half.

[nismo]

He used Stam on the RB spot only when he had a solid central defence of Nesta and Mihajlovic. Or did Nesta leave already? I'm not sure about that, but I'm pretty sure that Stam was only a temporary solution to the right-back position. Oddo was the fixture in that spot.

Anyway, Lazio aside, I think that Favalli's definitely the better left-back between him, Cordoba and Cannavaro. As for Coco, if he's ever fit, he's definitely the best option there. And there's not going to be a very big queue for the LB spot this season, seeing that Brechet and Pasquale are both gone on loan, while Kily will be used in his natural attacking role up the left-wing.
Nesta left by the time Mancini arrived. I remember Stam being used at RB more than Oddo, actually I remember Oddo complaining about his lack of action at RB affecting his azzurri chances.

On form and fitness Favalli is the better option, but with a new coach you never know how these things will work out. I'm hoping Cordoba can be fielded in the defence in any capacity.

[nismo]

I think a three man defense can work just fine if coached right...obviously Zac didn't do that job well enough though. And I saw somewhere here that it didn't allow for the wings like JZ enough attacking freedom, but I disagree. If Zambrotta and Panucci can roam the distance of the field with only two centerbacks for Italy, then I think they certainly can with 3. I just blame Zac for not maximizing the potential of his formation for whatever various reasons.
I think that was me who said JZ was limited to his attacking due to his position higher-up in midfield. When you have a back 3 defense, your full backs endup becoming wingbacks, meaning they're positioned higher the field. In contrast to a fullback position, fullbacks are in a defensive position with license to roam up, in other words they're venturing out of a defensive zone. But wingback don't come out of defense, they're in between defense and midfield, pretty much everywhere on the flank, so they have to be more calculating the number of sorties they do because they leave gaps behind due to their position higher upfield. IMO anyways, two fullbacks, like what Zambrotta and Panucci are doing for the azzurri are different to wingbacks. Zac's tactics is a factor for sure in the team being so mediocre at times, but it's also the formation being used which dictates how the each player functions, if that makes sense. Notice how much more effective JZ was when a RB for Cuper's 4-4-2 as opposed to Zac's 3-4-3??

[Musiq]

True that. Also, in a 4-4-2, when the full-back goes up front and attacks, the winger on his side also helps in covering up in case he loses possession or something. Remember Van der Meyde once quoting during Cuper's period that he had to play in a different role, and had more defensive duties?

This was what made Valencia so effective. On the left wing, both Kily Gonzalez and Vicente played, despite both being attack-minded players. One would cover up for the other when the other went on an attacking run. So both had to have attacking as well as defensive qualities.

[devious]

______________________________toldo_____________ ________________

_______________canavaro______________matrix_____ ________________

Javier_______________________________________ ___________favalli

____________________davids(c.zanneti)________________________


_____vdm(emre)________________________________kill er(karagones)______


________________________veron(recoba)_____________ ______________


_________adriano(martines)_________________vieri(c ruz)______________

[adrianofan]

Wait couldnt Cordoba play at the same time as Cannavaro though? I believe Cordoba can play CB too can't he? ... or at least I recall he did under Cuper.. I dont see why this setup wouldn't work:
J. Zanetti (RB) -- Cannavaro (CB) -- Cordoba (CB) -- Favalli/Coco (LB)

Only concern I have is that Cordoba is a small guy... even then hes good at headers and plus the less size makes him quicker (unlike the Cannavaro-Matrix partnership as stated earlier).

[GiorgioII]

Canna and Cordoba are both quality defenders but because of their lack of height cannot be partnered together.

[Musiq]

Wait couldnt Cordoba play at the same time as Cannavaro though? I believe Cordoba can play CB too can't he? ... or at least I recall he did under Cuper.. I dont see why this setup wouldn't work:
J. Zanetti (RB) -- Cannavaro (CB) -- Cordoba (CB) -- Favalli/Coco (LB)

Only concern I have is that Cordoba is a small guy... even then hes good at headers and plus the less size makes him quicker (unlike the Cannavaro-Matrix partnership as stated earlier).
I used to think so too. Actually, their lack of height doesn't matter much, because if you notice, Cordoba and Cannavaro are both very adept at headers and are unusally strong in the air for men of their height.

But the thing is, Materazzi deserves to be in there simply because of his committment. Not only is he a giant and good with set-pieces, but he's got a great spirit. And of course, the fact that he wears one black boot and one blue goes to emphazise his passion for Inter...:D The fact is, he deserves to be in there more than those two. Initially, I wasn't so fond of him, and rated him second-string to Cannavaro and Cordoba, but the way he played after his return from the ban, he really won me over.

[adrianofan]

Well height doesn't matter too much because they are both good at headers... im just worried about Cordoba's size in terms of defending power forwards that can out muscle him... Materazzi would be good for that however... but if they have pace and power... we're screwed (thank god Adriano is no longer at Parma :D)

[Ryan27]

Speaking of height and tall defenders...I wonder what the latest on Kompany is?

[nismo]

Canna and Cordoba are both quality defenders but because of their lack of height cannot be partnered together.
That's one of their primary incompatibilities, especially at set-pieces and from crosses.

[nismo]

Well height doesn't matter too much because they are both good at headers... im just worried about Cordoba's size in terms of defending power forwards that can out muscle him... Materazzi would be good for that however... but if they have pace and power... we're screwed (thank god Adriano is no longer at Parma :D)
Being good at headers, and outjumping strikers are pretty different. Being jumpy but small can't compensate for lack of height to deal with big forwards. You need that imposing defender like you said in a guy like Matrix, but with more defensive class.

[Musiq]

Speaking of height and tall defenders...I wonder what the latest on Kompany is?
I really don't know. And it can't be because of EURO 2004, because Belgium aren't even playing....However, maybe Inter will wait until the tournament is over, and we have all our players with us before deciding who goes where and who comes in.

But I don't think bringing him in this summer itself would be wise. He's still a little too young. And yet, he's too classy to be playing with our youth team. I suggest that he probably secure his services, but let him stay on loan with Anderlecht, or maybe to some other Serie A club, like Fiorentina.

[nismo]

I really don't know. And it can't be because of EURO 2004, because Belgium aren't even playing....However, maybe Inter will wait until the tournament is over, and we have all our players with us before deciding who goes where and who comes in.

But I don't think bringing him in this summer itself would be wise. He's still a little too young. And yet, he's too classy to be playing with our youth team. I suggest that he probably secure his services, but let him stay on loan with Anderlecht, or maybe to some other Serie A club, like Fiorentina.
Most of the transfers will happen after euro2004.

Yes, it would be too soon to chuck him into the first team. A loan experience will do him good. That's if we ever hear from him again :rolleyes:

[Ryan27]

Most of the transfers will happen after euro2004.

Yes, it would be too soon to chuck him into the first team. A loan experience will do him good. That's if we ever hear from him again :rolleyes:

I'd just go ahead and sign him and Obodo and loan them both out. That might be the best policy for Inter anyways, there isn't that much need for immediate help at most positions.

[Sebastian]

we all know that CESAR arrival is just a matter of time....

--------------TOLDO------------
----CANNAVARO-----CORDOBA-----
JAVIER-----------------------COCO
------CRISTIANO---EMRE---------
STANKOVIC------------------CESAR
------ADRIANO------RECOBA-------

[Massimo]

just out of curiousity:

does sebastian frey still belong to inter? :confused:

i hope so... :smoking:

[adrianofan]

Fiorentina qualified for Serie A? Yay! I used to like Fiorentina when they had Batistuta and Rui Costa (was one of my favourite players until injuries screwed him over) when they were good... unfortunately I never got to see much of them when Adriano was on the team. (here in Canada, I only get to catch about two Serie A games a week... about 90%+ of the time, they show an Inter game.)

Anyways, Fiorentina would probably be a good option for loaning Kompany out... that is where Adriano got things going as a first-team player in the Serie A after all. This would be great for him as Fiorentina wouldn't weight him down with the challenge of qualifying for european competition or anything but would still offer him the challenge of helping his team stay clear of relegation.

Oh and no, I'm pretty sure Sebastien Frey is property of Parma... he's been in Parma for quite awhile so I'm pretty sure he's 100% Parma now.

[_mR aSj_]

thid would be my current team, with the players we currently have ans signed thus far.

--------------TOLDO------------
----CANNAVARO-----CORDOBA-----
JAVIER-----------------------COCO
------CRISTIANO---VERON---------
--VDM------------------STANKOVIC
------ADRIANO------VIERI-------

this is the team, putting in the players that INTER are currently after/ rumoured to be after

--------------TOLDO------------
----CANNAVARO-----BURDISSO-----
JAVIER-----------------------COCO
------DAVIDS-------VERON---------
--VDM------------------STANKOVIC
------FABIANO------ADRIANO-------

[SicKFesT_10]

I think both those line-ups would work well for the team. I can see that being successful for the team with a good mixture of youth and experience.

Emre would be good also in Verons position with Davids (if aquired) holding together the midfield.

[Musiq]

In fact, I'd say Emre is better in that particular midfield position than Veron. I don't know, I just don't feel so optimistic about Veron's success as some of you seem. I feel it would limit Emre's chances, and Emre is surely the present and future of our midfield success.

[SicKFesT_10]

I still think that Veron can be one of the best passers in midfield. As long as he doesn't get injured and gets played in his preferred position i think he can be great for us. He can be the Pirlo of our team (boy i wish we still had him)

[nismo]

In fact, I'd say Emre is better in that particular midfield position than Veron. I don't know, I just don't feel so optimistic about Veron's success as some of you seem. I feel it would limit Emre's chances, and Emre is surely the present and future of our midfield success.
True but we're talking about one of Mancini's former colleagues. I'm guessing they'll be the Lazio-connection thing going on, like there was with the Argentine contingent with Cuper. I'm really concerned where Emre fits into all this :(

[Musiq]

So am I, but Mancio is a wise guy. Hopefully, he'll see Emre in better light than Veron. I don't think he'll be more inclined to play Veron just because he's his ex-teammate. I'm sure that if Emre keeps his fitness during Mancini's first few weeks here, that's all will be needed to convince Mancio. Anyway, only time will tell.

[nismo]

Yeah, maybe Veron will get injured, so he'll be forced to use Emre :D

[GiorgioII]

I'm sure that Emre is the type of player that Mancini likes and he won't waste a talent like Emre. They don't call him the Turkish Maradona for nothing! :ronaldo:

[adrianofan]

well if he is the turkish maradona... lets just hope that he doesn't take steroids and becomes a 250 pound blob (is maradona still a 250 pound blob with heart problems now? poor guy... shouldn't have taken all that muscle enhancement crap.)

[Pazza]

This good to know that both Veron and Emre can play in the same role. either one injured the other one quickly replaced him. no comments on who should play first thou! :smoking:

[Musiq]

well if he is the turkish maradona... lets just hope that he doesn't take steroids and becomes a 250 pound blob (is maradona still a 250 pound blob with heart problems now? poor guy... shouldn't have taken all that muscle enhancement crap.)
Lol, that's right....:ronaldo: But Emre's a smart kid, I hope...:D

And Pazza, it's my belief that Emre is also defensively more solid than Veron, and will therefore lend greater stability to our midfield. My firm belief is that Emre should definitely get the nod ahead of Veron.

Actually, we could have a poll for this. It might make an interesting debate....:D

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

Emre is the midnight worker at the kebab stand outside of the Guiseppe Meazza stadium.

[Musiq]

Emre is the midnight worker at the kebab stand outside of the Guiseppe Meazza stadium.
Yeah, and Veron's that worker who wipes people's snot off the parking lot outside the San Siro...:rolleyes:

Grow up, man. It's painful to listen to things like this...:D

[devious]

Yeah, and Veron's that worker who wipes people's snot off the parking lot outside the San Siro...:rolleyes:

Grow up, man. It's painful to listen to things like this...:D
loool!! :D

[nismo]

well if he is the turkish maradona... lets just hope that he doesn't take steroids and becomes a 250 pound blob (is maradona still a 250 pound blob with heart problems now? poor guy... shouldn't have taken all that muscle enhancement crap.)
I always referred to him as the Turkish Gazza :D
Seriously, we shouldn't allow him to leave at all costs.

[interp]

i more prefer emre as 1st choice starter rather than veron
we shouldn't bought any more player, at least until mid season
where the coach should have better view of the team

[nismo]

I think Moratti got Veron because he's always been a personal favourite of his. I don't know how much thought went into getting Veron :D

[Il fenomeno]

I think this is how Mancini will play next season...

---------------------Toldo-----------------------
-------------------------------------------------
Zanetti------Cordoba-------Cannavaro-----Favalli
-------------------------------------------------
VDM---------Davids--------Veron-------Stankovic
-------------------------Recoba-----------------
-------------------Adriano-----------------------

Davids will in all probability play for Inter the coming season. VDM is doing some nice stuff, and hopefully will find his feet with mancio.

[Bernardo_1978]

Hey fellow Interisti.....

Im´new here so hello to you all....

This would be my ideal Inter 1st team for 04/05

----------------Toldo--------------------
------Canavarro-------Materazzi---------
J.Zanetti------------------------Favalli---
-----------Renato-----Veron------------
------Juninho-----------------Stankovic---
-----------------------------------------
---------Mutu----------Adriano-----------

My indications for reinforcements,

1. Adrian Mutu (Chelsea)....Inter urgently needs a fast man up front, since everybody knows that BOBO´s and Adrianos characteristics are too similar and we end up loosing out on offensive speed.
2.Juninho Pernambucano (Lyon).....Dynamic creative midfielder with strong tactical notions and lots of power and disposition. Three championshios in 3 yrs at Lyon, before that 2 Brazilian leagues with my beloved Vasco da Gama where he was the team leader. He is much better than Emerson.
3. Renato (Santos FC)....Outstanding defensive midfielder, who will start for Brazil in the Copa America. With lots of class has been the natural leader in the Santos side.
4. Carlos Tevez (Boca Juniors)...Flamboyant skilled forward who could be the best ´surprise´factor with Inter......

[GiorgioII]

Mutu is a player that I would love at Inter. Him and Adriano could become unstopable together again and the indications are that Chelsea will sell should a decent offer come in. Vieri for Mutu would be a decent deal IMO and Chelsea would probably accept it.
I like your team a lot really. But a new CB is needed for that team to be unbeatable.
Welcome aboard BTW. :ronaldo:

[Sebastian]

I think this is how Mancini will play next season...

---------------------Toldo-----------------------
-------------------------------------------------
Zanetti------Cordoba-------Cannavaro-----Favalli
-------------------------------------------------
VDM---------Davids--------Veron-------Stankovic
-------------------------Recoba-----------------
-------------------Adriano-----------------------

Davids will in all probability play for Inter the coming season. VDM is doing some nice stuff, and hopefully will find his feet with mancio.

i dont think that VDM will find a place in INTER.....CESAR is on the way and DEJAN will probably play on the left leaving DAVIDS and VERON on the centre mid...:evil:....

[Il fenomeno]

Well I mean Cesar can only play on the left... he can play as a left back as well I think. Mancini will definetly have a headache. The true fact of the matter is that only one of Adriano and Vieri can play at a time. Either he rotates them every game or sells one of them. One of thems is 30 + and sucks, while the other is a brazilian youngster who we just invested alot of money in.

Recoba needs to play as well. I think he will be more consistent with Mancini around. We cannot forget Martins... this guy had a good seasons considering it was his first. scored 7 goals in serie from 12-13 starts...

I think with Mancini around, we might be able to put a stern challenge for Milan,,, but in my eyes, they are still the favourites to take home the Serie A.

I hope we get davids...

[Bernardo_1978]

Elcino,

I see that what you put as the best starting lineup is valid for the human material we have disposible.
But, I think INTER MUST REINFORCE the team with more quality players.

The most urgent position is A Fast Forward up front. I indicated the names of Adrian Mutu and Carlos Teves, but there could be more viable options such as Diego Forlan or in my dremas Milan Baros.

And with Bobo Vieri leaving, I would like to see either Montella or Gillardino as the backup for Adriano in the starting centerforward role.

Second we need a playmaker in offensive midfield. Stankovic is the best we have; Im seriously tired of Recoba, he´s not corresponded with what weve expected.

FORA INTER!!!!!!!!!!!!CURVA NORD FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!

[adrianofan]

Milan Baros deserves to be named best striker of tournament thus far... Unless you consider Nistelrooy but two of his goals were off-side (and wasnt called), one was a penalty kick.. and Rooney scored one goal off-side as well (but scored 3 regularly so he's still the #2 striker I think) BUT... I think it would be very risky to try to bring him here... Baros scored five goals but two of them came against sloppy defending from Denmark... and who knows?... he may be a huge fluke in this tournament... Baros played four games so far... I don't think its enough to judge his ability... Whereas its easier to judge Vieri's ability as he's had a poor season at Inter (at least in "Vieri" standards) in addition to his poor showing at Euro.... Theres not enough of Milan Baros to judge so I'm uncertain as to if he would be good for Inter.

As for Gilardino, he could be a fluke also if you think about it... In Parma, they employ a 4-2-3-1 formation I believe which means that the striker is going to get more service and is going to get more goals (that is if you have great communication between the trident and the lone striker and have an effective striker... thats why Italia's 4-2-3-1 in game one sucked because Totti, Del Piero and Vieri all sucked)... but if Gilardino goes to Inter, Juventus or Roma... I can't see him scoring so much because he isn't going to get fed as much as he would like. Just look at Adriano... When he was at Parma, 8 goals in 9 games (impressive)... now when he goes to Inter (9 goals in 16 games or something and most of his goals were solo efforts btw)... so unless Gilardino plans on making Adriano Hero runs, he may not become a top scorer in Juvy, Inter or Roma unless they plan on using a lone striker formation :D

[GiorgioII]

Elcino,

I see that what you put as the best starting lineup is valid for the human material we have disposible.
But, I think INTER MUST REINFORCE the team with more quality players.

The most urgent position is A Fast Forward up front. I indicated the names of Adrian Mutu and Carlos Teves, but there could be more viable options such as Diego Forlan or in my dremas Milan Baros.

And with Bobo Vieri leaving, I would like to see either Montella or Gillardino as the backup for Adriano in the starting centerforward role.

Second we need a playmaker in offensive midfield. Stankovic is the best we have; Im seriously tired of Recoba, he´s not corresponded with what weve expected.


FORA INTER!!!!!!!!!!!!CURVA NORD FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, a fast forward is important for Inter, but not the most important thing we need right now. Davids and a CB are more important at the moment. When we've got those two things then we should move for Mutu :evil: .

[stefan99]

Burdisso is the new cb but the most important thing is we need the mancini deal done. The pre season training for those not involved at euro 2004 or copa america starts monday. Who is gonna train them if mancio isn't confirmed by then??? :confused:

[GiorgioII]

I don't know. Won't it just be Verdalli for the time being. Yea though, the Mancini deal is more important than signing any player right now. I know Burdisso will be our new CB, but there's still no news of it on Inter.it, so it can't be official yet.

[stefan99]

Boca juniors confirmed it on their site. Gazetta said earlier this week that he will be presented friday(tomorrow) after the copa liberadores final.

[GiorgioII]

That is great news. He can become a nerazzuri great :evil: and possibly a world great too. Height and talent combined. I am in favour of an all south american pairing in Cordoba - Burdisso next season.

[Bernardo_1978]

I acknowldge the signing of Burdisso. He may certainly close off the Inter defense well.

Truly, I do like Davids, but I don´t think he is who we need; this because I´d rather see us hire one with less than 25 yrs old, who we can count on for many years. Im´ of course hoping, but not betting on the scudetto for 04/05, but if Mancio builds it up right, Im´sure that for 05/06 we can have the best squad in the world.

Is the deal with Esteban Cambiasso done? Renato, from Santos FC would be a proper name. He is a more versatile version of Emerson.

[GiorgioII]

Well Davids still plays like he's 25 years old and although building for the future is important, it is useless if the present team is poor. We should bring in Davids AND a younger midfielder like Cambiasso.

[nismo]

If Davids came, there's little doubt he'll be expected to be a starter. We wouldn't pursue him so vigourously for him to be a sub. I think the whole idea of bringing in davids is aiming to win the scudetto in 1 years time, 2 years max.

[GiorgioII]

With Davids in the centre of our team a Scudetto is a real possibility. I would have thought two years though would be a more realistic target. Inter are also apparently trying to hijak Juve's move for Emerson. Interesting.....

[chu_chu]

Inter complete Cambiasso swoop Friday 2 July, 2004

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Nerazzurri have officially signed Real Madrid’s Esteban Cambiasso and Nicolas Burdisso of Boca Jrs, while there are developments on the Mancio front.


Inter made the arrival of Argentine midfielder Cambiasso official with a press statement pointing out he had put pen to paper tying him to the club until June 30 2008.


The 26-year-old was out of contract with Real Madrid and passed a medical examination this afternoon.


“I am happy and emotional,” commented Cambiasso. “This is a career dream come true for me.”


Although Boca Juniors defender Nicolas Burdisso is not officially an Inter player yet, he will fly in from South America tomorrow morning to complete the paperwork.


The Argentine international scored Boca’s goal in the 1-1 Copa Libertadores Final with Once Caldas last night, but the Colombians went on to win after a penalty shoot-out.


There is more good news for Nerazzurri supporters, as the bitter row with Lazio over the fate of Coach Roberto Mancini is coming to a head.


“The important thing,” conceded President Giacinto Facchetti after today’s meeting, “is that Inter and Lazio have started talking again. We have always had a good rapport with this club and that had recently gone cold, but the rest will follow now that we have thawed out that problem.”


The President met with patron Massimo Moratti and Lazio chiefs Ugo Longo and Giuseppe De Mita to discuss the situation. The Nerazzurri have already announced Mancini as their new Coach despite the fact he is still under contract with the Capital club until 2006.


It’s now reported that Inter will emerge from this situation by handing over one player – chosen from Daniele Adani, Rebecchi and Potenza – plus an impressive cash sum in order to sign both Mancini and Brazilian winger Cesar

====================

inter have cambiasso news on their website
cool!!!

[GiorgioII]

This is a good move for Inter. I hope we move for Davids as well, but after Davids, Cambiassio is the sort of player that can really become a permanent fixture in our side.

[chu_chu]

he can be our cheaper version of emerson.... he is young and has potential to grow like that....

i smell almeyda/farinos/cristiano departure...

inter did great in transfer market.... we already have 3 free players who has quality and good records... only davids left...

and burdisso is also ready to join us, he isn't free, and again inter did something good about his price... 3 million is cheap for a highly rated defender.... i guess materazzi will remain as our starter until burdisso is ready to rock...

btw how tall is burdisso?

[devious]

I think Inter now have one of the strongest midlefield in Italy and Europe, so we must use our midlefielders well.. a suggestion:
Defence:
=========================TOLDO==================== =====
===========CANAVARO=============CORDOBA(MATRIX)=== ======
JAVIER(BURDISSO)==============================CO CO(FAVELLI)

Middlefield:
==========VERON(ZANNETI)======EMRE(CAMBIASSO)===== ========
VDM(KARAGONES)========================STANKOVICH(K ILLER)==

Offence: (you can choose your best!)
=======================RECOBA(CRUZER)============= =======
==================ADRIANO(MARTINES)=============== =======

In my modest opinion.. that`s the fair formation!

[Musiq]

Yes, a fast forward is important for Inter, but not the most important thing we need right now. Davids and a CB are more important at the moment. When we've got those two things then we should move for Mutu :evil: .
Erm, haven't you people forgotten that we already have a lightening fast forward in Oba Martins??

Tevez, Luis Fabiano, and that other feller (Robinho, is it?) are all undoubtably great players, but we have enough world-class strikers. In a formation where only 2 strikers will be used, we already have three starters and another two rotational players.

Another striker is simply out of the question, especially when they'll cost us.

[devious]

Erm, haven't you <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=people&v=56">people</a> forgotten that we already have a lightening fast forward in Oba Martins??

Tevez, Luis Fabiano, and that other feller (Robinho, is it?) are all undoubtably great players, but we have enough world-class strikers. In a formation where only 2 strikers will be used, we already have three starters and another two rotational players.

Another striker is simply out of the question, especially when they'll cost us.
That`s totaly right!.. guys just enough for new players! we have a perfect team now i think!

[GiorgioII]

Our team is not perfect. If you look at our squad I know what you mean though. We do have good players in every position, but right now Milan have great players in every position and that is why we cannot win Lo Scudetto with our current squad IMO.

[Musiq]

That`s totaly right!.. guys just enough for new players! we have a perfect team now i think!
Not quite perfect. You see, Kily's a good left winger, but whether he's good enough or not, we can't say yet. He has shown in the past that he can be world-class also, but whether he can show that kind of form at Inter is hard to say. We can't judge him by last season, because he was played out of position by Zac. Zac used him as an wing-back, when he's really an attacking winger.

Stankovic too, is a great player, but time will only tell whether he'll be effective on the left.

So we might need a young left winger like Marek Jankulowski. I'm not saying that this would be the right time to purchase him, but we do know that Juventus are highly interested in him. We also know that Luciano Spalletti (Udinese coach) expects Jankulowski to be on his way out. So we need to decide here - should we gamble Stankovic's possible starring role for an established winger, or not?

Besides, we also don't have good backups on the right. Our reserves, Okan and Helveg, are both gone. Only Devis Nossa is capable of playing as a right-back, and maybe Napolitano or Rebecchi on the right wing. But as you can see, we have no experienced alternatives there.

[GiorgioII]

Jankulovski would be a good player for us to sign. But I believe that Stankovic is the player for our left hand side. It is only in the past 2 seasons that he has played as a CM. Before he was a LW. Stankovic has only really emerged as a great player in central midfield, but was beginning to develop into a real star down that left hand side before he was moved. I think that if we're talking about cost-cutting then a gamble on Stankovic is definately worth it.

[Musiq]

Jankulovski would be a good player for us to sign. But I believe that Stankovic is the player for our left hand side. It is only in the past 2 seasons that he has played as a CM. Before he was a LW. Stankovic has only really emerged as a great player in central midfield, but was beginning to develop into a real star down that left hand side before he was moved. I think that if we're talking about cost-cutting then a gamble on Stankovic is definately worth it.
I have to disagree with some things. Firstly, Stankovic wasn't a left WINGER. He was a left Midfielder. That is, he's not a Van der Meyde type player who tries to keep crossing the ball into the box. Rather, he's a player who drifts around the left-wing, and tries to either play the ball into the box, and more than often tries to cut into the box and score.

Of course, a player like this would be ideally suited for Mancio's style of football, but will Stankovic be able to perform in this manner? Will he really be able to shift back to his old style? He's young and versatile, true, but only time will tell what he can do...

[Il fenomeno]

We are finally buying some world class players. Veron,,, Stankovic, Adriano are all world class players. Cambiasso has valid experience from Madrid. Next up is Davids or Emerson.. thinks are looking good. Cause the way cristiano zanetti play is just disgraceful. How can he be # 1 DM in a team like Inter??!!

Mancini will come as Lazio have released him. Good inference from Lazio board, why have a unhappy coach???

So so far Gamarra, Helveg, Almeyda have been released, Dalmat on loan to Toulouse. We need to get rid of some more garbage. Vieri has to go, we can still get good money for him (only Allah knows why). I have not seen Burdisso play... can anyone give a brief report?

[adrianofan]

I'm pretty sure Stankovic will adapt on the Left-Wing... he's going on 26 (so his age is just right), he's got lots of offensive talent and he has that goal scoring instinct. Stankovic I predict should be able to score ten goals a season being played in this position :) He's already scored four with the nerazzurri in half a season.

[nismo]

I have to disagree with some things. Firstly, Stankovic wasn't a left WINGER. He was a left Midfielder. That is, he's not a Van der Meyde type player who tries to keep crossing the ball into the box. Rather, he's a player who drifts around the left-wing, and tries to either play the ball into the box, and more than often tries to cut into the box and score.

Of course, a player like this would be ideally suited for Mancio's style of football, but will Stankovic be able to perform in this manner? Will he really be able to shift back to his old style? He's young and versatile, true, but only time will tell what he can do...
Well you know Stankovic's unorthodox approach to left mid could work in favour of Mancini's formation. Deki won't be so predictable if he has the freedom to roam on the left, splitting his duties as winger and infield attacks.

[chu_chu]

Besides, we also don't have good backups on the right. Our reserves, Okan and Helveg, are both gone. Only Devis Nossa is capable of playing as a right-back, and maybe Napolitano or Rebecchi on the right wing. But as you can see, we have no experienced alternatives there.

musiq... don't you think it's finally time to develop inter youngster...? they never had a chance like every youngster had in other club...

ferrari, pirlo, and frey are the most successful ex-inter youngster because of the chance and enough time they have....

[nismo]

We are finally buying some world class players. Veron,,, Stankovic, Adriano are all world class players. Cambiasso has valid experience from Madrid. Next up is Davids or Emerson.. thinks are looking good. Cause the way cristiano zanetti play is just disgraceful. How can he be # 1 DM in a team like Inter??!!

Mancini will come as Lazio have released him. Good inference from Lazio board, why have a unhappy coach???

So so far Gamarra, Helveg, Almeyda have been released, Dalmat on loan to Toulouse. We need to get rid of some more garbage. Vieri has to go, we can still get good money for him (only Allah knows why). I have not seen Burdisso play... can anyone give a brief report?
Yes, we are brining in some quality names, but I'm started to wonder how will the current guys react to such a massive influx of players?? I bet stars like Emre and Cordoba might be wondering where there places and futures lies :confused: They've been such an asset to Inter it'll be sad to see them leave or left out of mancio's pans :(

Yeah, it was in the interests of all parties that Mancini was released from his contractual obligations.

Don't know much about Burdisso, however in CM 03/04 he's an absolute kickass defender if that's of any help :D

[devious]

Not quite perfect. You see, Kily's a good left winger, but whether he's good enough or not, we can't say yet. He has shown in the past that he can be world-class also, but whether he can show that kind of form at Inter is hard to say. We can't judge him by last season, because he was played out of position by Zac. Zac used him as an wing-back, when he's really an attacking winger.

Stankovic too, is a great player, but <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=time&v=56">time</a> will only tell whether he'll be effective on the left.

So we might need a young left winger like Marek Jankulowski. I'm not saying that this would be the right <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=time&v=56">time</a> to purchase him, but we do know that Juventus are highly interested in him. We also know that Luciano Spalletti (Udinese coach) expects Jankulowski to be on his way out. So we need to decide here - should we gamble Stankovic's possible starring role for an established winger, or not?

Besides, we also don't have good backups on the right. Our reserves, Okan and Helveg, are both gone. Only Devis Nossa is capable of playing as a right-back, and maybe Napolitano or Rebecchi on the right wing. But as you can see, we have no experienced alternatives there.
i didn`t mean by the word perfect that the clearly perfection! cause no such a thing.. You saw that real madrid was almost that perfection last season.. but they sucked the hell up!
What i meant that we can be better for this season, and we can do something big with those great players.
I have a better left wing for you musiq~!! ISMAYLOV.. the russian denamo player.. i consider him one of the best left wingers in the world (so soon), and he is young too.

[adrianofan]

Burdisso good in CM 03/04 eh? I don't have that edition of Championship Manager but from my experience of previous versions, I know that while many players may have accurate stats there are always the odd few or so players that play in small clubs and are over-rated beyond believe in that series.. Only in CM can you control FC Porto and then buy an englishman from the English Division Three for 75k euros and have him become one of your top players during the season :)

Remember Franco Costanzo that River goalie in CM 01/02? He's still hanging around in River in real life and hasn't gone to some big euro club, I'd say thats good enough indication that he's over-rated in that game. lol... It's great to see all those "top prospects" in the previous versions of CM turn out to be nothing special in real life couple years later :D Don't know much about Burdisso myself, let's just hope he's good on the field in real life and not just in CM :)

[GiorgioII]

I'm pretty sure Stankovic will adapt on the Left-Wing... he's going on 26 (so his age is just right), he's got lots of offensive talent and he has that goal scoring instinct. Stankovic I predict should be able to score ten goals a season being played in this position :) He's already scored four with the nerazzurri in half a season.

I think that Deki could take up the role that Nedved takes for Juventus. On the left, but drifting all over the pitch, causing havoc :evil: .

Yea, sorry Musiq. I didn't mean to say that Stankovic was an orthodox left winger, but I meant that he can do a good job on the left hand side for us. I remember in one game this season Zac used him as the left sided flanked forward to good effect ;) .

[Musiq]

musiq... don't you think it's finally time to develop inter youngster...? they never had a chance like every youngster had in other club...

ferrari, pirlo, and frey are the most successful ex-inter youngster because of the chance and enough time they have....

Actually, you're right in a way. It's not like our right wing will be very weak just because Van der Meyde may not hit top gear. We definitely have room there for some youngsters to blossom. As long as Javier Zanetti is there to back these youngsters up, they'll actually have fun on the right wing...;)

Actually, even if the Capitano has to miss out a match or two, we can still pull through. Yes, we could give Devis Nossa a run on the right, but we could also play Cordoba as right-back, seeing as we seem to have enough centre backs.

[Ryan27]

Actually, you're right in a way. It's not like our right wing will be very weak just because Van der Meyde may not hit top gear. We definitely have room there for some youngsters to blossom. As long as Javier Zanetti is there to back these youngsters up, they'll actually have fun on the right wing...;)

Actually, even if the Capitano has to miss out a match or two, we can still pull through. Yes, we could give Devis Nossa a run on the right, but we could also play Cordoba as right-back, seeing as we seem to have enough centre backs.

I was just thinking, assuming he isn't loaned out or something, Kallon would be a good player to pencil in as a backup attacking right wing to VDM, as well as his standard reserve forward role. He's versatile, and is still very young with untapped potential.

I'm willing to hand VDM the right wing job just based on the promise he has shown at times...but until he hits that "top gear", I will dream of Joaquin or a young player like that.

[nismo]

Actually, you're right in a way. It's not like our right wing will be very weak just because Van der Meyde may not hit top gear. We definitely have room there for some youngsters to blossom. As long as Javier Zanetti is there to back these youngsters up, they'll actually have fun on the right wing...;)

Actually, even if the Capitano has to miss out a match or two, we can still pull through. Yes, we could give Devis Nossa a run on the right, but we could also play Cordoba as right-back, seeing as we seem to have enough centre backs.
Well we don't have to worry about Javier at RB, anyone playing at right wing will know the reliability and defensive assurances JZ affords to the right side. VDM combined well with JZ under Cuper last season, up until he was sacked. I hope VDM just believes in himself and Inter this season.

You know we could've used Ferraro as JZ back-up, that's if we didn't sell him to Milan :rolleyes: I thought he was being groomed at JZ's successor. Isn't Nossa a CB btw?

[GiorgioII]

If we get Mancini it looks like Massimo Oddo will follow him here. He can be the back up for JZ and if VDM gets injured JZ can just push up to RM. Not many teams in Serie A can boast a player such as Oddo as a substitute can they?

[Bernardo_1978]

Maybe this will be the likely lineup with us getting Oddo. It looks like Davids is ours.

---------------------------Toldo----------------------------------------
--Oddo-----------Cannnavarro---------Materazzi------------------Favalli
---------J.Zanetti-----------Davids-----------------Veron----------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------VDM----------------------------------------Stankovic----------
--------------------------Adriano----------------------------------------

Too defensive in my oppinion....Im´still think Mutu

[Musiq]

You're right, I didn't think of Kallon. But there's just one problem - Kallon's a little short on the creativity side, and also the dribbling side. He wouldn't make a very good winger, because he's not very fast like Oba, not very good at dribbling like Adriano, not an accurate crosser like Van der Meyde, and not even unpredictable and creative like Stankovic. Still, if nobody else is there, I suppose we could try him there.

Joaquin will cost fortune, which we apparently don't seem to have right now...:(

[GiorgioII]

You're right Musiq, we do seem to be short of cash right now. I don't know why. I know that Moratti has spent loads of money to make this club a succesful one, but what he's one of the richest men in Italy. Surely a few more big signings aren't out of his reach.

[Musiq]

Well we don't have to worry about Javier at RB, anyone playing at right wing will know the reliability and defensive assurances JZ affords to the right side. VDM combined well with JZ under Cuper last season, up until he was sacked. I hope VDM just believes in himself and Inter this season.


The only thing is, what if, God forbid, anything happened to Javier Zanetti. That's what I was worried about. But I now feel that Cordoba and Nossa are adequate back-up...


You know we could've used Ferraro as JZ back-up, that's if we didn't sell him to Milan :rolleyes: I thought he was being groomed at JZ's successor. Isn't Nossa a CB btw?

We didn't sell him to Milan - he's there on a co-ownership deal. Why we didn't bring him back here, I really don't know, but yeah, he would have been the best understudy to JZ.

And though Nossa started off as a centre-back, he was used on the right in the second half of the youth season, and apparently fitted quite well there...

I still think that the best successor to Javier Zanetti will be Miguel. I'm sure y'all would have noticed him in action in EURO 2004. He was so good he knocked CL winner and Chelsea's &pound;12m signing Paulo Ferreira out of the starting 11. He had a great EURO 2004, and he's just 23. We should try and snap him up quickly, because apparently he's got a lot of admirers in the Premiership.

[nismo]

You're right, I didn't think of Kallon. But there's just one problem - Kallon's a little short on the creativity side, and also the dribbling side. He wouldn't make a very good winger, because he's not very fast like Oba, not very good at dribbling like Adriano, not an accurate crosser like Van der Meyde, and not even unpredictable and creative like Stankovic. Still, if nobody else is there, I suppose we could try him there.

Joaquin will cost fortune, which we apparently don't seem to have right now...:(
Well Kallon should be part of the deal to bring Mancio over so it won't be our problem anymore how to use him :D

[nismo]

The only thing is, what if, God forbid, anything happened to Javier Zanetti. That's what I was worried about. But I now feel that Cordoba and Nossa are adequate back-up...



We didn't sell him to Milan - he's there on a co-ownership deal. Why we didn't bring him back here, I really don't know, but yeah, he would have been the best understudy to JZ.

And though Nossa started off as a centre-back, he was used on the right in the second half of the youth season, and apparently fitted quite well there...

I still think that the best successor to Javier Zanetti will be Miguel. I'm sure y'all would have noticed him in action in EURO 2004. He was so good he knocked CL winner and Chelsea's &pound;12m signing Paulo Ferreira out of the starting 11. He had a great EURO 2004, and he's just 23. We should try and snap him up quickly, because apparently he's got a lot of admirers in the Premiership.
Where did you get this information from that it's a co-ownership deal with Milan?? I went to the Milan board and they claim Ferraro is theirs outright.
BTW speaking of youth team players, does anyone remember Pasquale being a CB for the primera side?? Or was he always a fullback??

As for Ferreira, man Scolari doesn't believe in 2nd chances does he :D One mistake and out he goes for the rest of tournament. It's funny you consider Miguel to be JZ replacement because during the CL I was actually thinking the same thing for Ferreira :silly:

[Musiq]

Where did you get this information from that it's a co-ownership deal with Milan?? I went to the Milan board and they claim Ferraro is theirs outright.
BTW speaking of youth team players, does anyone remember Pasquale being a CB for the primera side?? Or was he always a fullback??


The info that Ferraro's on a co-own with Milan is straight from Inter.it. There was an article a while back on Inter.it talking about the different co-ownership deals that we had concluded. Here's the link to the article:

http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=14480&L=en&IDINI=14492

And Pasquale, as far as I can remember was always a left-back. Zac did try to use him as a centre-back during that period when we had no central defenders either because of injury or because of suspensions. He plain and simply sucked out there. Poor guy, it wasn't his fault at all. If you don't play all season and suddenly get a game because some cartoon like Helveg doesn't pass a last minute fitness test, what else can you do? :D



As for Ferreira, man Scolari doesn't believe in 2nd chances does he :D One mistake and out he goes for the rest of tournament. It's funny you consider Miguel to be JZ replacement because during the CL I was actually thinking the same thing for Ferreira :silly:

The only problem was that Ferreira was bound for Chelsea ever since Mourinho was linked with taking over. Further, Miguel is also a couple of years younger than Paulo Ferreira.

And I've considered Miguel as JZ's successor ever since I saw him in action against us in the UEFA Cup. I was also impressed by their other wing-back, Armando Sa, but unfortunately, he signed for Villareal this summer.

[GiorgioII]

Yea, Miguel is only 24 I think. But Javier is only 30, he still has a few top years left in him. There is no need in signing a top quality back up for him who is not going to get any playing time. We may as use Nossa or a youngster and then either hope that one of them is world class by the time JZ retires or sign a world class RB.
Having said all that, it looks like Mancini may bring Massimo Oddo with him to Inter.

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

Yea, Miguel is only 24 I think. But Javier is only 30, he still has a few top years left in him. There is no need in signing a top quality back up for him who is not going to get any playing time. We may as use Nossa or a youngster and then either hope that one of them is world class by the time JZ retires or sign a world class RB.
Having said all that, it looks like Mancini may bring Massimo Oddo with him to Inter.


***k that shit, Oddo can stay at Lazio. Inter already have a quality a RB who is never Injury prone. Oddo will see the bench all season.

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

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[CV32 Top Ah Top]

Yea, Miguel is only 24 I think. But Javier is only 30, he still has a few top years left in him. There is no need in signing a top quality back up for him who is not going to get any playing time. We may as use Nossa or a youngster and then either hope that one of them is world class by the time JZ retires or sign a world class RB.
Having said all that, it looks like Mancini may bring Massimo Oddo with him to Inter.


***k that shit, Oddo can stay at Lazio. Inter already have a quality RB who is never Injury prone. Oddo will see the bench all season. The only quality player i'd take from Lazio is Cesar. But I think we can still get Oddo and put him in as a RM because he is a great crosser of the ball.

[Sebastian]

CESAR is a pure world class.....:evil:...he'll be one hell of a reinforcment for INTER.....with STANKOVIC on the right and CESAR on the left we'll be extremely offansive and their effectivness is sky high....:evil:....i cant wait for INTER to officialise CESAR arriveal...:smoking:.........

and i dont want to sound optimistic but BURDISSO is extremely usefull and quality signing....INTER allways knew how to recognise world talent defenders.....

[GiorgioII]

Yea, Cesar will be very good for us. Yea I hadn't really thought of Stankovic on the right, but he can play there and he guarantees us quality so if VDM shows no imporvement next season then he should be picked there.
Burdisso is quality, but if he isn't ready for Serie A(I think he will be) then we're kind of stuck.
Cordoba
Javier
.................you know we seem to have a thing for plucking talented defenders from South America and making them stars.

[Sebastian]

...STANKOVIC played on the right when SERGIO C....left for PARMA and he was damn good....:evil:....

[zenden9]

Shall Inter get Klose of german? I remember the last winning team of Inter for scudetto in 1989 consists of some great german players with Klismen and Lothar.Although Klose form drop,doesn't meant he will not make it in Inter plus,I believe his aerial abilities is must sought in Inter with Vieri aging. Adriano is good in ground but not in air. May Klose emulate the feat of Klismen if he go Inter!

[GiorgioII]

Adriano's good in the air. We certainly don't need or want Klose. If we're to go for German players they should be Ballack, Metzelder or players like that.

[Sebastian]

....KLOSE???....thanx but we'll let the GERMANS deal with him....;).....we'll stick with ADRIANO..........

[nismo]

***k that shit, Oddo can stay at Lazio. Inter already have a quality RB who is never Injury prone. Oddo will see the bench all season. The only quality player i'd take from Lazio is Cesar. But I think we can still get Oddo and put him in as a RM because he is a great crosser of the ball.
cv32, you do realise there's whats called the "EDIT" button :rolleyes: No need to post multiple posts to increase your tally.

[nismo]

...STANKOVIC played on the right when SERGIO C....left for PARMA and he was damn good....:evil:....
BTW anyone knows where Conceicao is right now??

[nismo]

The info that Ferraro's on a co-own with Milan is straight from Inter.it. There was an article a while back on Inter.it talking about the different co-ownership deals that we had concluded. Here's the link to the article:

http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=14480&L=en&IDINI=14492

Thanks for the link ;)

[GiorgioII]

I don't know. I think Conceicao is at like Sporting Lisbon or Benfica...but I'm not sure.

[Il fenomeno]

I look the clubs strategy.. out with those damn italian faggots and in with some foreign blood. Veron, Cambiasso, Burdisso and Choutous... guess what... no italian hahahah

things are looking good, but why did we buy Choutous... maybe a pawn for ss?

[adrianofan]

Adriano is definately good in the air... with his height and all and he has scored a few headers while at Inter. Speaking of Adriano, Brasil is going to play today in the Copa America... HOPEFULLY they give Adriano the start and im anxious to see what this Diego kid is all about... elcino and all the south american fans say that hes awesome (my dad also told me that he's seen this guy play and is very talented... moreso than Deco) and he's going to join FC Porto next season to replace Deco so I would love to see this guy in action.

Oh and about Sergio Conceicao, I'm pretty sure hes back in the Portuguese Premiership now... either way, he certaintly became washed up once he joined Inter. He can't even make the Portuguese national team anymore.

[_mR aSj_]

adrianofan
bro Sergio Conceicao actually made the Portugese team but pulled out due to an injury that he had sustained.

[Pazza]

Signing of choutus probably because of his experience but at 31 is some sort of bewilderd by Inter.

eh il fenomeno, whats your point? you been saying 'faggots' of italian players for many times that makes me wonder why the heck you support an italian team like inter otherwise? remember burdisso has italian origins and he could well changed his nationality to play for Italy like cameronesi did.

[GiorgioII]

Actually I'm quite sure that Burdisso can't do that as I'm sure he has already been represented by Argentina at either full international level or under-21.

[Ryan27]

Signing of choutus probably because of his experience but at 31 is some sort of bewilderd by Inter.

eh il fenomeno, whats your point? you been saying 'faggots' of italian players for many times that makes me wonder why the heck you support an italian team like inter otherwise? remember burdisso has italian origins and he could well changed his nationality to play for Italy like cameronesi did.

Choutos is 24.

[Pazza]

Actually I'm quite sure that Burdisso can't do that as I'm sure he has already been represented by Argentina at either full international level or under-21.

I said he 'could'. that doesnt mean he probably will or can.. :rolleyes:

[GiorgioII]

No but I'm saying I don't actually even think it is possible as Camoranesi had never been represented by Argentina at any level, whilst Burdisso has been.

[Pazza]

Look man. There are aint a player who never changed thier nationality to play for other country. If you are a 'patriotic' thats fine with me.

[GiorgioII]

Look man. There are aint a player who never changed thier nationality to play for other country. If you are a 'patriotic' thats fine with me.

Im not any patriot I'm just saying that I don't think Fifa rules would allow Burdisso to play for Italy because as far as I understand he has already been represented by Argentina at under-21 or full international level. Perhaps I'm wrong though. :rolleyes:

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

I seriously would advise other countries not to take in other players from different nationality as Camoranesi is just a good example of pure wank he was with italy at euros.

[GiorgioII]

I seriously would advise other countries not to take in other players from different nationality as Camoranesi is just a good example of pure wank he was with italy at euros.

Yea, true. I've never rated Camoranesi. Fiore would have been a much better option for the Azzuri.

[nismo]

Im not any patriot I'm just saying that I don't think Fifa rules would allow Burdisso to play for Italy because as far as I understand he has already been represented by Argentina at under-21 or full international level. Perhaps I'm wrong though. :rolleyes:
I think the FIFA rules are if you haven't represented you country at full international, you can switch nationalities of either parent or ancestry. Freddie Kanoute played for France at U-21 but was never capped for the senior team which allowed him to play for Mali.

[GiorgioII]

I think the FIFA rules are if you haven't represented you country at full international, you can switch nationalities of either parent or ancestry. Freddie Kanoute played for France at U-21 but was never capped for the senior team which allowed him to play for Mali.

Ahh yes, thought there was a chance that I'd be wrong :D

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

Where do you guys think Stan would play ??
And if Cesar arrives would he play as full-back or left winger ?

[Slavenik]

If he comes, Cesar will defenetly play on the wing.

[adrianofan]

Kanoute plays for Mali? LOL Oh boy... I can understand his decision though... Thanks to Henry and Trezeguet, the guy isn't going to have a spot on France's first-team at all.

And as a Canadian, I hate it how all these foreigners can play for other nations... at least in Kanoute's case, he should be allowed to play for Mali since he was born there. (At least I think so. lol) However because of all these rules, traitors like Owen Hargreaves are flocking over to play with England... Canada is NEVER going to be good in futebol if all their top talents flock to England or France (since most of Canada is made up of people with English and French roots).

On the plus side as a Portugal supporter, we get the left-over brasilians (Deco, Costinha, Jorge Andrade... I think) and Miguel (whose Angolan I believe) playing for Portugal but after seeing Deco's horrid performance in the final (this guy has absolutely no goal scoring instinct, no wonder brasil doesn't want this guy... at least trequartistas like Kaka can score), I still think it's wrong :)

[GiorgioII]

If he comes, Cesar will defenetly play on the wing.

I've heard that the Cesar deal looks dead. Yet another veteran in Inter Fanatic is going to be posting..Man I love this place.

I think if Cesar arrives Stankovic will be forced into playing either in central or on the Right Wing. This guy is so versatile, he can play anywhere. :evil:

[Sebastian]

....CESAR transfer is the most obvious one....;)...he's not an idiot to remain in LAZIO when everyone has left the team for the classy players.....i've read that DAVIDS transfer will be officialised tomorrow and CESAR one is near...:evil:...

[GiorgioII]

Our midfield next season:

Stankovic----------------Veron------------------Davids-----------Cesar


:evil:

[Sebastian]

Our midfield next season:

Stankovic----------------Veron------------------Davids-----------Cesar


:evil:

tell me GIORGIO is this inferiour even to REAL MADRID?????
....CHU CHU said that when CRESPO sign for MILAN and EMERSON goes in JUVE we''ll no longer have chanses for the SCUDETTO....

[Slavenik]

This midfield line is so beautiful :heart:

[_mR aSj_]

not onli our midfield but the whole team looks so strong on paper, i just cant wait till da season starts. i still think that we should give VDM one more chance, coz he is a player wit alot of talent. this is how my team would look.

------------------------TOLDO------------------------
------------------------------------------------------
---J.ZANETTI----BURDISSO-----CANNOVARO----COCO--
------------------------------------------------------
------------------------DAVIDS-----------------------
-----VANDERMAYDE----------------------STANKOVIC--
-------------------------VERON-----------------------
------------------------------------------------------
-----------------ADRIANO--------------VIERI----------
------------------------------------------------------


n we would still have Cordaba, Favalli n Materazzi 4 backup n players such as Cambiassco, Recoba, Martins, Zannettias backups to the first team.
i think the team also need some young players to build them up maybe its a chance for players like Beati, Marino etc...

[GiorgioII]

tell me GIORGIO is this inferiour even to REAL MADRID?????
....CHU CHU said that when CRESPO sign for MILAN and EMERSON goes in JUVE we''ll no longer have chanses for the SCUDETTO....

Probably not....perhaps it is the best midfield in the whole of Europe :evil: :heart:

[nismo]

tell me GIORGIO is this inferiour even to REAL MADRID?????
....CHU CHU said that when CRESPO sign for MILAN and EMERSON goes in JUVE we''ll no longer have chanses for the SCUDETTO....
Well Milan is still the team, they are the defending champs afterall. Juve is restructuring their team, but with Capello at the helm and Emerson headed that way it'll be tight. Look for Roma to be the darkhorse, if Gilardino joins. hey elcino, can you ressurect that thread you made about Inter's rivals?? :D

[chu_chu]

elcino, i just love to 'humble'...

now about the coach...
i'm happy that del neri goes to porto... hopefully we can stole 6 points from chievo without a needless fight
trap goes to benfica... lucky we won't see him in serie a... he was the worst coach in international level but in leagues he could be one of the best...

about the club...
like nismo said, roma could be a serious threat if they sign both gilardino and ferrari... prandelli is with them now.... this guy is the one i'm always afraid of... not ancelotti and capello....
i guess milan's defense are the best in serie a now.... (i always hope maldini to retire asap...) and for juve... we don't know who they will sign... but moggi always did some weird transfer that mostly end up producing one of the best players in serie a.... (i hope we could do something like that this season) plus capello is with them who is the best when looking for new star.... now their movement are getting hard to guess....
well about inter... i guess inter are the best in this transfer market by did some modest signing... hopefully they would stop signing player after davids and cesar... not spending money too much on a star (although i want someone like ronnie/ballack badly) ^^
and about promoted clubs like palermo and fiorentina, i'm also worry about them... i'm not worrying about scudetto rivalry with them... but a underrated club do us pretty good sometimes... you know what i mean...

[adrianofan]

Yeah Inter has got their butt kicked by those small clubs before. :) I would like to see Fiorentina have a good run again and hopefully become a great team like they were when they had Rui Costa and Batistuta. But of course, Inter will always be my favourite :)

[Sebastian]

.....nismo can you be a litlle bit more specific???...:silly:...i've made a zillion......:p......
chu chu....i undertsand but JUVENTINO'S and the MILANISTA'S will turn you're humbleness against you and degrade you.....;).....dont underastimate you're self and you're beloved team...:smoking:....

[nismo]

.....nismo can you be a litlle bit more specific???...:silly:...i've made a zillion......:p......
chu chu....i undertsand but JUVENTINO'S and the MILANISTA'S will turn you're humbleness against you and degrade you.....;).....dont underastimate you're self and you're beloved team...:smoking:....
It was that thread you made, I think last year, it had something to do with the strengths and weaknesses, players, and signings of Inter's rivals. I can't remember what it's called, but I know you was the one who made the thread. If you can't find it, I'll make up another one myself :D I think it's time for a thread like that don't you think ;)

[Sebastian]

It was that thread you made, I think last year, it had something to do with the strengths and weaknesses, players, and signings of Inter's rivals. I can't remember what it's called, but I know you was the one who made the thread. If you can't find it, I'll make up another one myself :D I think it's time for a thread like that don't you think ;)

oh that one....we'll that one is allready here...to three teams offical signings and player comparation...;)....

my GOD DAVIDS is officially an INTER player....what can possibly be better than this....:evil:...im extremely confident and satisfied....:thumbsup:....

[Il fenomeno]

Yesss we bought Davids, a player who is classes better than cristiano zanetti.

Our midfield is looking great.... a 4-4-2 ...

-----------------Toldo-----------------

Zanetti--Cannavaro---Cord/Burdiso-Favalli

VDM--------Davids-----Veron---Stankovic

------------Recoba----Adriano-----------

Scudetto guaranteed..

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

LOL ilfenomeno you are a dreamer aren't you?

[devious]

LOL ilfenomeno you are a dreamer aren't you?
Yesss we bought Davids, a player who is classes better than cristiano zanetti.

Our midfield is looking great.... a 4-4-2 ...

-----------------Toldo-----------------

Zanetti--Cannavaro---Cord/Burdiso-Favalli

VDM--------Davids-----Veron---Stankovic

------------Recoba----Adriano-----------

Scudetto guaranteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed..
Devious..
__________________

[zenden9]

Yesss we bought Davids, a player who is classes better than cristiano zanetti.

Our midfield is looking great.... a 4-4-2 ...

-----------------Toldo-----------------

Zanetti--Cannavaro---Cord/Burdiso-Favalli

VDM--------Davids-----Veron---Stankovic

------------Recoba----Adriano-----------

Scudetto guaranteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed..
Devious..
__________________

Maybe cristiano zanetti can join back Roma when he established himself first!
It will do good for both team!

[nismo]

oh that one....we'll that one is allready here...to three teams offical signings and player comparation...;)....

my GOD DAVIDS is officially an INTER player....what can possibly be better than this....:evil:...im extremely confident and satisfied....:thumbsup:....
We swap Vieri for Totti :D

[Il fenomeno]

I dont think Roma adminestration is that stupid to be honest...***k Totti, get Deco

[adrianofan]

Deco has gone to Barcelona... besides we don't need him, if anything we should have snapped up Diego from Santos but FC Porto, the geniuses that they are got to him first :) Pinto da Costa (Porto's owner) knows how to do business... sells Deco for a whole lot of money and then brings in 19 year old Diego for a lot less money (this guy is talented and will be great... he hasn't had the oppourtunity to do much in Copa America yet as a sub but he has set-up Adriano with a nice goal thus far.)

[Sebastian]

....swap VIERI for TOTTI?????....:silly:...you're even bigger dreamer than JOHN LENNON my friend...:ronaldo:...:silly:.....:p.....

it seems that MANCINI wants MIHAJLOVIC....who's corners are the best in the business....i'd be delighted to have him but his huge C.LEAGUE ban...leaves a dark spot on his transfer....:rolleyes:...

[Il fenomeno]

Yeah, with Mihailovic around we have another dead ball specialist, beside Recoba, Veron and Adriano.

He is a classy defender, but he is old and his speed is a liability..

[Il fenomeno]

Just like I thought, Mancini is looking for a maximum of 25 players. I think these will be confirmed for next season:

Goalkeepers:
Toldo
Fontana
Cordaz

Defenders:
Javier (Who will play right back in the preliminaries?)
Ze Maria (Hopefully this guy)
Cordoba
Cannavaro
Burdiso
Mihajlovic
Materazzi
Favalli
Coco

Midfielders:
Van der Meyde
Davids
Veron
Cambiasso
Stankovic
Cristiano
Kily
Karagounis

Attackers:
Adriano
Recoba
Martins
Kallon
Vieri

Decent?

[Ryan27]

Just like I thought, Mancini is looking for a maximum of 25 players. I think these will be confirmed for next season:

Goalkeepers:
Toldo
Fontana
Cordaz

Defenders:
Javier (Who will play right back in the preliminaries?)
Ze Maria (Hopefully this guy)
Cordoba
Cannavaro
Burdiso
Mihajlovic
Materazzi
Favalli
Coco

Midfielders:
Van der Meyde
Davids
Veron
Cambiasso
Stankovic
Cristiano
Kily
Karagounis

Attackers:
Adriano
Recoba
Martins
Kallon
Vieri

Decent?

Well I can't say I like that Emre isn't included...otherwise it looks good, though I'd like to see something secured with Kompany, even just a first option.

[Ryan27]

From Recoba's interview at Inter.it:
In what position do you see yourself playing in this new Inter side?
"In these first few training sessions Mancini has used me on the wing, but we're not playing with a fixed 4-4-2. We either have a flexible formation with two strikers and two wide players who attack, or the 4-3-3. I'm training and I'm convinced we can do well."

So, as eLcino pointed out in the other thread, (edit: my fault...i posted this before reading everything and seeing that he already had) its very evident that Mancini is not using a pure 4-4-2...which I think is good, because at the very least it shows that Mancini is flexible and will do all he can to get the most of his players like Recoba.

[CV32 Top Ah Top]

Actually as a matter of fact,Inter have a 43 man squad and is full enough.

[nismo]

Well I can't say I like that Emre isn't included...otherwise it looks good, though I'd like to see something secured with Kompany, even just a first option.
yeah whatever happened to him?? No news at all?? Or maybe with Burdisso's transfer they'll be no need for Kompany :confused:

[Ryan27]

yeah whatever happened to him?? No news at all?? Or maybe with Burdisso's transfer they'll be no need for Kompany :confused:

There still could be more news forthcoming...Inter still have lots of players that need to go out on loan and maybe something will be struck with Anderlecht. For all we know maybe Inter already have a first option for him (I think I remember reading that Branca had gone to Belgium a short while ago)...since he is still so young it may be a good idea to wait till next summer anyways, though I'd prefer he developed somewhere in Serie A on loan if not at Inter.

[Inter09]

with kompany even if we struck a deal he was still going to remain with anderlect with one or two more seasons.

here is my formation for next season.

------------------------frey--------------------------

-----J.Zanetti-----Canna----Burdisso---------Favalli---

------------------------Davids------------------------

-----------VDM------------------------Stanko---------

------------------------Veron-------------------------

---------------Adriano---------Recoba----------------

i think that is a pretty awesome lineup. best midfield in tha world? one of anyway.
the only things that might be not so definate is the centre of defence who will start as we have many capable defenders.

also we have subs such as martins, emre, matrix, cordoba, vieri, coco, c.zanetti, cambiasso, cruz, karagounis, kily.
pretty awesome squad i feel.

[Il fenomeno]

I hope we Frey, I never really like Toldo, and like I said, the more foreigners the better play, no faggots!!!

unfortunately vieri and mancini used to go to mcdonalds together, so i cant see mancini dissing vieri... even though he seems to have had too many burgers lately ;)

Sorry, forgot Emre. I think he will be either sold or loaned out, but I really like this player, but he wont get many oppurtunities at all. Lets see what happens.We have tooooo many players... Even lalo Sorondo is back... was he any good during his loan season.

[doz]

A possible 4-4-2 assuming we keep Toldo and Van Der Meyde?

Toldo
J.Zanetti---Cannavaro---Burdisso---Cordoba
Van Der Meyde---Davids---Emre---Stankovic
Adriano---Recoba

I'm still expecting Vieri to leave but even if he doesn't, he'll be battling hard to earn a first team place.

[Sebastian]

....i doubt that MANCINI will play with VIERI and ADRIANO when he have awesome strikers like MARTINS and RECOBA to partner ADRIANO and compose an ideal DUO...
but Doz i dont think that MANCIO will play with CORDOBA on the left back when we have COCO and FAVALLI....and VERON is guaranteed in the starting 11....as for FREY....i would be delighted if we get him...he's becoming perhaps the best young goal keeper in the world...and a future FRANCE starter...:evil:....and FRANCE is the second natiuon in football rankings....:smoking:....defenately a better option than TOLDO cos he's getting too old and probably this is his last season....we must recruite a world class young goalkeeper to secure our goal keeper place for the years to come....or someone else will take him away from us and then his price will jump sky high....

[adrianofan]

Frey IMO should be France's starting goaltender... He's better than Barthez... though Barthez does have one advantage: He is the luckiest goalie in the world.

[Ryan27]

with kompany even if we struck a deal he was still going to remain with anderlect with one or two more seasons.

here is my formation for next season.

------------------------frey--------------------------

-----J.Zanetti-----Canna----Burdisso---------Favalli---

------------------------Davids------------------------

-----------VDM------------------------Stanko---------

------------------------Veron-------------------------

---------------Adriano---------Recoba----------------

i think that is a pretty awesome lineup. best midfield in tha world? one of anyway.
the only things that might be not so definate is the centre of defence who will start as we have many capable defenders.

also we have subs such as martins, emre, matrix, cordoba, vieri, coco, c.zanetti, cambiasso, cruz, karagounis, kily.
pretty awesome squad i feel.

If you're lining them up like that (without a pure right wing), why even bother to put in VDM? I'd rather move Stankovic to the right and field Emre. Even Karagounis probably fits in on that RCM better than VDM. I think Mancini's flexibility will actually limit how well VDM plays. As you seem to agree with your diamond midfield, its clear that the abundant talents Inter have are better off being used in something other than only a straight 4-4-2, a formation that only VDM and maybe Vieri would do better in. My point is, Mancini isn't going to use the straight 4-4-2 just for the sake of VDM when there are so many other awesome players. And if you're using something else, VDM is not as effective. I think the closest thing you'll see (barring injuries) to Mancini using an all out attacking wing/forward like VDM would be Recoba on the left.

[nismo]

If you're lining them up like that (without a pure right wing), why even bother to put in VDM? I'd rather move Stankovic to the right and field Emre. Even Karagounis probably fits in on that RCM better than VDM. I think Mancini's flexibility will actually limit how well VDM plays. As you seem to agree with your diamond midfield, its clear that the abundant talents Inter have are better off being used in something other than only a straight 4-4-2, a formation that only VDM and maybe Vieri would do better in. My point is, Mancini isn't going to use the straight 4-4-2 just for the sake of VDM when there are so many other awesome players. And if you're using something else, VDM is not as effective. I think the closest thing you'll see (barring injuries) to Mancini using an all out attacking wing/forward like VDM would be Recoba on the left.
Well Lippi has used Camoranesi on the right of a 3 man midfield, plus Zambrotta has played there numerous times before his conversion to LB, so it could be possible to field VDM in a 3 man mid. I don't think we'll nullfiy VDM's abilities that much if he was played there, he's a pretty versatile player. Mancio's 4-4-2 is the same as Cuper's orthodox 4-4-2 by namesake only, in action however it's very flexible and attacking oriented. So I think Mancio will use the 4-4-2, flat 4 midfield and 2 strikers, but it will allow the freedom to change and evolve according the match. BTW I've just noticed people using the diamond 4 midfield thinking it to be a 4-3-3, in fact Mancio's 4-3-3 has a 3 man midfield and a striker flanked by two outside forwards kinda like the Dutch system, so now I'm not sure which 4-3-3 Mancio will end up using for Inter:confused:

[Sebastian]

From Recoba's interview at Inter.it:
In what position do you see yourself playing in this new Inter side?
"In these first few training sessions Mancini has used me on the wing, but we're not playing with a fixed 4-4-2. We either have a flexible formation with two strikers and two wide players who attack, or the 4-3-3. I'm training and I'm convinced we can do well."

So, as eLcino pointed out in the other thread, (edit: my fault...i posted this before reading everything and seeing that he already had) its very evident that Mancini is not using a pure 4-4-2...which I think is good, because at the very least it shows that Mancini is flexible and will do all he can to get the most of his players like Recoba.

4-3-3 is the ideal formation...MILAN won everything with that one....but you know what???i think that after we finalise nagotiations with LAZIO for CESAR will be awesome and the4-3-3 line up will release it's leptons and split the ATOM which will create the most outrageous energy possible....:evil:....

it's the most wisest tactics to leave you're oponents guessing what will you do....will you play with 4-4-2 or with 4-3-3...;)....

[Ryan27]

Well Lippi has used Camoranesi on the right of a 3 man midfield, plus Zambrotta has played there numerous times before his conversion to LB, so it could be possible to field VDM in a 3 man mid. I don't think we'll nullfiy VDM's abilities that much if he was played there, he's a pretty versatile player. Mancio's 4-4-2 is the same as Cuper's orthodox 4-4-2 by namesake only, in action however it's very flexible and attacking oriented. So I think Mancio will use the 4-4-2, flat 4 midfield and 2 strikers, but it will allow the freedom to change and evolve according the match. BTW I've just noticed people using the diamond 4 midfield thinking it to be a 4-3-3, in fact Mancio's 4-3-3 has a 3 man midfield and a striker flanked by two outside forwards kinda like the Dutch system, so now I'm not sure which 4-3-3 Mancio will end up using for Inter:confused:

Well first I think Camoranesi and Zambrotta are more versatile than VDM...I'm not saying VDM absolutely can't handle a 3 man midfield...I'm just wondering why you would bother when you have so many others that could handle it naturally and probably more effectively.

As for Mancini's formation (I noticed he used Cruz, Martins, and Recoba all at once against whatever nobody team they were playing in their friendly), I think Mancini will switch it up a lot like eLcino sugges