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Perucho
10-22-2003, 04:27 AM
its very tough to say who will win the Copa america ......Brasil and Argentina are always going to be favorites.....as far as Peru is concerned it will be hard for them to win even if they are hosting the tournament.....Peru havent done much in international competitions in the last 20 years so it will be tough........i think if Peru finishes 3rd it will be a good accomplishment for them.....but for sure that i wil be going to Peru next summer to see the games.but who knows maybe Peru will be champs at the end
JUDE TURPIN
02-07-2004, 03:02 PM
its very tough to say who will win the Copa america ......Brasil and Argentina are always going to be favorites.....as far as Peru is concerned it will be hard for them to win even if they are hosting the tournament.....Peru havent done much in international competitions in the last 20 years so it will be tough........i think if Peru finishes 3rd it will be a good accomplishment for them.....but for sure that i wil be going to Peru next summer to see the games.but who knows maybe Peru will be champs at the end
JUDE TURPIN
02-07-2004, 03:10 PM
I Love The Copa. I Am Sure 2004 Will Be A Great Tournament. As For Peru, People In Europe Love To Watch Their Silky Passing Game. They Are Good To Watch And Recently Held Brazil 1-1 So They Are Definitely Going To Reach The Latter Stages. They Have A Proven Goal-scorer In Pizarro, So Watch Them Go.
Coronado
04-13-2004, 01:03 PM
I Love The Copa. I Am Sure 2004 Will Be A Great Tournament. As For Peru, People In Europe Love To Watch Their Silky Passing Game. They Are Good To Watch And Recently Held Brazil 1-1 So They Are Definitely Going To Reach The Latter Stages. They Have A Proven Goal-scorer In Pizarro, So Watch Them Go.
I think Mexico has a good chance, too.
They beat brazil twice last year in the Copa de Oro.
Coronado
04-13-2004, 01:26 PM
I think Mexico has a good chance, too.
They beat brazil twice last year in the Copa de Oro.
kirby
06-07-2004, 05:22 PM
mexico will win the copa america
Peņarol-URU
06-27-2004, 06:51 PM
mexico will win the copa america
YEAH BUT NOT MEXICANS AJAJAAJhttp://urumelb.tripod.com/seleccion/Uruguay_1930.htm AJJAAJJAJA
OK people heres a good example of a Mexican hater! He shouldn't even be talking uraguay is limping right now actually he should be very embarrased! Lol but well se when Mexico puts a move on uraguay especially with all Mexicos guns in this copa squad!
FPF fan
06-28-2004, 08:56 PM
I think Peru has an exellent chance to win. Ronaldo listed them as one of his favorites to win with Argentina and Brazil. But unlike Argentina and Brazil Peru will have all the players that would start a World Cup match while Argentina and Brazil's top players will be taking vacations. Peru with Solano, Pizzora and Mendoza playing will have a real shot at this thing. After the friendly match with Argentina on the 30th we should get a really good look at how well the home team will be able to do.
Chileno
06-29-2004, 09:09 AM
Hey FPF, don't be so quick to dismiss the second Argentina and Brazilian teams.
shadow88dancer
06-29-2004, 03:52 PM
I think I have to agree with Chileno. :p A few teams are sending their 2nd stringers while some are using their first team but I guess a lot of surprise results and upsets will happen as young fresh faces tend to show their true caliber and ability while given the chance to prove themselves as it is the only way for them to repay the coach trust in them.As usual in every international tournament,a few young players will rise given the oportunity just like what EURO 2004 has shown us young rising superstar to be:Eng-Whayne Rooney,Hol-Roben Arjen,Por-Christiano Ronaldo & Helder Postiga and a few others which their names I could not recalled.
What is so interesting regarding Copa 2004 is,there is no true measument to their seedings as W/C 2006 Qf does not count due to different sets of players as a lot of superstars have had been left out by their national coach for them to recuperate after a heavy and taxing season in Europe's top leagues and also Copa clash with W/C Qf.
It is sad to say that alot of S/America teams treat Copa as a side dish,not as important in value as W/C Qf.I guess being the champion of COPA 2004 doesnt bring the pride and glory to the nations involved anymore with the exception of the host country.
FPF fan
06-29-2004, 10:20 PM
I was in now way dismissing the second teams, I think they will do great, I just thing its yet another advantage to the home team. We already pulled of a tie against the Brazilian A team in quali game. If Peru plays its top game I think we have a good shot at beating any of the teams in this tournament.
lollerface
06-29-2004, 11:51 PM
lol.... mexico has to be most overated soccer team EVER. They always choke in the world cup and they can never win BIG MATCHES. Beating a backup brazilian team full of 20yr olds doesnt qualify as BIG MATCH. They always set HUGE EXPECTATIONS on them as if they where brazil , france ,italy etc . I hope mexicans wake up and realise they are just a mediocre team. No offense .
back to copa america theirs always a surprise team .. soooo ill just take paraguay for the hell of it
You might as well take el salvador national team if your going with paraguay!!! LOL If you didn't remeber last world cup Mexico took out Italy and croatia with all theose european stars on their squads Mexico the supposably mediocare team took them out I admit we did lose to the USA but atleast we didn't lose to know european or south american team their !
adir008Brasil
06-30-2004, 09:48 AM
mexico can to win the copa america...but i not see her win brasil
brasil now better the brasil year ago...
Go BRASIL
Brazi-Guayo85
06-30-2004, 12:55 PM
Rafa why are you so ***kin ignorant? you keep talking shit about Paraguay and talking about El Salvador, first of all Paraguay has more gifted players then Mexico ever will Cardozo, Paredes, Santa Cruz, Gamarra, Cuevas, Legendary Chilavert, and now we got our new goalie whos making a name for himself Villar who you got? Borghetti? Overrated Blanco? Marquez? the same old tired names that been in Mexico for years..Mexico makes a decent player once every few years and beating tiny islands and sub-20 teams dont mean you good it just makes you look stupid cause when you get to the World Cup your sent back home, and like i said before if El Salvador so bad why did they whoop your taco eating asses last time?
lollerface
06-30-2004, 03:00 PM
LOL you tied a overated italian team who later LOST TO S.KOREA. WOWOWO MEXICO TIED ITALY LETS RANK MEXICO TOP5 IN THE WORLD ASAP AND MAKE IT A ELITE SOCCER TEAM FOR YEARS TO COME.
OHHH WAIT THEY CANT EVEN BEAT USA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
btw does anyone know if argentina and brazil will bring anything near full squads or will it be the same B Teams
Brazi-Guayo85
06-30-2004, 05:52 PM
Brazil, not even b-squad they using their c-squad..sigh..guess ill have to depend on Paraguay
Brazil, not even b-squad they using their c-squad..sigh..guess ill have to depend on Paraguay
Forget it paraguays sucks big chorrizos! LOl Mexico might have the same players but they can still win!!
HurricaneH
07-01-2004, 09:47 AM
At least Mexico made it to the second round last three world cups.
They later choked.......but still.
Top 16 in the world isnt bad.
Brazi-Guayo85
07-01-2004, 02:09 PM
Paraguay made it to the last 16 also and atleast we went down to a better team then USA and by a better score and anywayz Brazil won it so its all good
HurricaneH
07-01-2004, 09:02 PM
well Uruguay didn't make it!:P
Chileno
07-02-2004, 09:33 AM
It doesn't matter, I don't know how you guys do it in the CONCACAF, but over here we support our brother countries who are at the world cup. Uruguay and Argentina had a bad cup, so what. Brazil still made it. Who knows what will happen next year, maybe Brazil will go out first and Argentina will win. The important thing is that the cup goes to southamerica. :)
Brazi-Guayo85
07-02-2004, 01:37 PM
World Cups Conmenbol 9 Concacaf 0
and some stupid Mexicans still got the nerve to actually say Concacaf is better..lmao..why cant your beloved Mexico win a World Cup for Concacaf then? i guess Concacaf's best hope to a World Cup lies with USA, and if USA is your best hope what does that say about Concacaf? lmao :D
Did parguay ever win a world cup???
Brazi-Guayo85
07-03-2004, 02:53 PM
No but Brazil did so kiss my ass jajaja
paraguay can't even touch copa de oro!!! jajajajaj Lol
Brazi-Guayo85
07-04-2004, 02:36 PM
Copa Oro means shit, Atleast Paraguay been Copa America Champs something Mexico havent done jajaja
Carlodinho
07-04-2004, 03:56 PM
mexico can to win the copa america...but i not see her win brasil
brasil now better the brasil year ago...
Go BRASIL
Yes I agree except I don't think mexico can win because they just not good enough. Nothing in their history suggest they can win a major final. Copa oro is not really a strong competition.
Brazi-Guayo85
07-04-2004, 05:09 PM
well Uruguay didn't make it!:P
Am i Uruguayan? no, dumass.. Brazi-Guayo(Brazilian/Paraguayo..not Uruguayo) still gonna be fun to watch Uruguay stomp Mexico on Wedsnesday tho
monca986
07-04-2004, 10:33 PM
VIVA PERU
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07-05-2004, 04:55 AM
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Leon of Silvren
07-05-2004, 06:30 AM
World Cups Conmenbol 9 Concacaf 0
and some stupid Mexicans still got the nerve to actually say Concacaf is better..lmao..why cant your beloved Mexico win a World Cup for Concacaf then? i guess Concacaf's best hope to a World Cup lies with USA, and if USA is your best hope what does that say about Concacaf? lmao :D
Hey my country is from CONCACAF, and I know that that federation is crap, but there's no need to insult it....
Brazi-Guayo85
07-05-2004, 04:30 PM
Hey my country is from CONCACAF, and I know that that federation is crap, but there's no need to insult it....
And where would ur country be?
Doesn't matter Mexico are concacaf heavyweights!!!! and so is USA!! but we won more competitions than they have thats why we standed out more!
Leon of Silvren
07-06-2004, 12:22 AM
And where would ur country be?
Costa Rica.
Ecuador have never been to the final since the begining of this tournament.
Maybe it is long over due for Ecuador to have something to cheer about. Just like Greece did in Euro 2004. :silly: Ha...Ha...Ha...
Master K
07-08-2004, 11:12 PM
I think Mexico has a good chance, too.
They beat brazil twice last year in the Copa de Oro.
Mexico all the way!
Viva La Raza!!!!!!!!
VivaFutbol
07-09-2004, 04:39 AM
Brazil is still the team to beat, but argentina is awesome ! They will give them competition!
Chileno
07-09-2004, 09:45 AM
Right now Argentina has the best team.
pisulino
07-09-2004, 03:51 PM
Right now Argentina has the best team.
Chileno,
Im from Argentina.....and I have to tell you that I was very impressed with the Chile Team.
Wow, they really played very smart, covering all angles of the field and not allowing Brasil to play.
Chile has a lot of potential for this cup and it should not go unnoticed.
Regards,
Chileno
07-09-2004, 04:26 PM
Thanx pisulino, yep, I like this team also. This new generacion has more balls than the last one, I can't remember a game were Chile contested the midfield one on one with big teams. This same generation got a 2-2 draw with Argentina in the preolimpics remember? We could have won that game cause, much like the recent Brazil game, we also missed a penalty that time. :dead:
The only problem I see with these kids is the lack of a Salas/Zamorano offensive. They have decent defense, a great and fast midfield but the strikers still disapoint me. "Chamagol" may do well against mexican league defenders but in international games you need more than that, oh well, I hope this Cup serves them for experience and training.
As for Argentina I honestly don't see any rivals for them on this Cup exept themselves. Many ignorants say Brazil because of history, but this generation is not as good as that of the Argentinians, we almost beat them!, besides you guys are going almost with full squad. However, you never know with the argentinian side lately, they may look like an efficient goaling machine one day and then next they are a disorganized mass of attacking players that loose to panic of not converting. The Korea/Japan sindrome is still there and may play you a bad move on the last stages of the cup.
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Panambi
07-13-2004, 10:15 PM
Did parguay ever win a world cup???
Im geting tired, you seem like a paraguayan hater, like mexico ever won te world cup...
Mexico is cool but is not Paraguay besides Roque Santa Cruz and Villar are hot :heart:
Euzkadi
07-13-2004, 10:30 PM
I still can't believe why all this hate to mejico and concacaf!
They are not to par with conmebol or brasil or argentina, but give them a break for pete's sake!!
No one can deny they have gotten better each time, come on!!
IBERO presente.
Panambi
07-14-2004, 12:35 AM
And what abaut this guy who keeps telling that Paraguay is a shame... why you dont tell him a paraguayan hater???
Euzkadi
07-14-2004, 01:58 AM
Well, just because I didn't read all posts before, but now that you say it, yes, you're right. He shouldn't insult paraguay at all!
Paraguay is a great Team, and as far as I know, historically better than mexico and much other countries. Great background too and lots of export players.
Saludos!!
Im geting tired, you seem like a paraguayan hater, like mexico ever won te world cup...
Mexico is cool but is not Paraguay besides Roque Santa Cruz and Villar are hot :heart:
I appologize to you! I only said those things to prove my point to your fellow fan brazil gayo69 he was starting to get out of hand so I had to put him in line!!! once again i am sorry to you!
DANVEC
07-14-2004, 04:56 AM
YEAH BUT NOT MEXICANS AJAJAAJhttp://urumelb.tripod.com/seleccion/Uruguay_1930.htm AJJAAJJAJA
i hope i'll get good welcome from u guys , i watched URU vs ARG today and all past games as well ; it seems all of us are worry about MEX soccer evolution and i am too , look like is the next soccer potence to add to the traditional 'TRIO' (uruguay argentina brasil) and we put it there !!!! they learn quick with a great spirit of triunph , in my opinion we should not diminish neither insult they pride , we should start getting better coaches and i am saying this in regard to URU team and people , and better players .
remember this ,Mexico has a population of 80 mill, if Uruguay and Argentina don't evolve change tactical and develope new creativity play ,Mexico will be another Brasil in a few years ahead .
DANVEC
07-14-2004, 05:36 AM
OK people heres a good example of a Mexican hater! He shouldn't even be talking uraguay is limping right now actually he should be very embarrased! Lol but well se when Mexico puts a move on uraguay especially with all Mexicos guns in this copa squad!
u r ok raffa i dont where u from nor how much u know about soccer but let me tell u anyone who loves soccer loves their own contry national selection when they win , uruguay sucks !!! SUCKS !!!! and SUCKS , i love it we 've being the back engine of world soccer; uruguayan players are like rolex watches , limited production instead in countries like argentina -brazil and mexico with popullation over 50 mill people they hundreds to choose ; ask why u dont see uru's playing in brasil or bra's plaing in argentina etc etc and dont see mexi's playing in paraguay or amer's in bocca . Let me say this to all of YOU : if it wasn't for Uruguayan Soccer the world soccer as we know today wouldn't be . ( check it out )
DANVEC
07-14-2004, 06:02 AM
its very tough to say who will win the Copa america ......Brasil and Argentina are always going to be favorites.....as far as Peru is concerned it will be hard for them to win even if they are hosting the tournament.....Peru havent done much in international competitions in the last 20 years so it will be tough........i think if Peru finishes 3rd it will be a good accomplishment for them.....but for sure that i wil be going to Peru next summer to see the games.but who knows maybe Peru will be champs at the end
U FORGOT ABOUT US !!!! MY DEAAR FRRIIEENNDDDD !!!
US dont u remember us !, 14 copas americas wont / 10 libertadores cup / 2 world cups / 7 global toyota cups / 3 olimpic ..... check the records !!! open ur eyes ; talk real ; be real ; u watch tv ??? Uruguay is the 2 nd after Argintina on winners of intercontinental soccer cup in the WORLD !!!! CHAU !!
DANVEC
07-14-2004, 06:19 AM
I still can't believe why all this hate to mejico and concacaf!
They are not to par with conmebol or brasil or argentina, but give them a break for pete's sake!!
No one can deny they have gotten better each time, come on!!
IBERO presente.
IT'S UP TO U !!! but there are good reasons for some people to be ungry to mexicans and it is not against teams nor player , it is more about their fear of confronting a new rival nation on the fields of soccer . the bad side is that mexicans expressed themselfs in an ugly way ; is like a dog fight they bark at each other . getit ! ... and i am 100% with you ,they got better since uruguayan ,argentinian , brazilian players and coaches teach them the game.
perfectdark86
07-14-2004, 04:56 PM
well yea every country started learning from others countries coaches and players that is not new to the world of soccer... and if u want to be more precise argentina and uruguay started teaching the other countries in latin america about soccer
5timeschamp
07-14-2004, 05:16 PM
Doesn't matter Mexico are concacaf heavyweights!!!! and so is USA!! but we won more competitions than they have thats why we standed out more!
Last 17 games between the 2 countries since 1991
US won 7
Mexico won 5
Tied 5
yes ur a powerhouse!!
omgwtflol
07-14-2004, 05:22 PM
Actually, Mexico population is of 105 millions.
5timeschamp
07-14-2004, 05:24 PM
U FORGOT ABOUT US !!!! MY DEAAR FRRIIEENNDDDD !!!
US dont u remember us !, 14 copas americas wont / 10 libertadores cup / 2 world cups / 7 global toyota cups / 3 olimpic ..... check the records !!! open ur eyes ; talk real ; be real ; u watch tv ??? Uruguay is the 2 nd after Argintina on winners of intercontinental soccer cup in the WORLD !!!! CHAU !!
Still holding on to your pre 1950's days when you guys were a powerhouse!!
FPF fan
07-14-2004, 09:33 PM
It doesn't matter, I don't know how you guys do it in the CONCACAF, but over here we support our brother countries who are at the world cup. Uruguay and Argentina had a bad cup, so what. Brazil still made it. Who knows what will happen next year, maybe Brazil will go out first and Argentina will win. The important thing is that the cup goes to southamerica. :)
I remeber the last world cup. Chile qualified (i think one spot ove Peru, they may have tied and Chile made it on goals) I can't remember how it went but the important thing was for the rest of the cup I was Chile fan and a fan for all the teams of South America.
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