Will we Make INTER Complete???

[Sebastian]

RIO DE JANEIRO, July 27 (AFP) -- Ronaldo may have won a fifth World Cup for Brazil a month ago with his two goals in the final against Germany - but he will never be the player he was before extensive knee surgery, Brazil coach Luiz Felipe Scolari said Saturday.
"Ronaldo will never again be 100 percent. He had two major bouts of surgery, spent two years without playing and has difficulty maintaining his ideal weight," Scolari told Brazilian radio in a critical assessment of a man whose eight goals in seven games landed the trophy.
"These are things we have to consider," said Scolari, perhaps the chief beneficiary of Ronaldo's deadeye finishing in Asia having himself come in for criticism after a poor qualifying campaign.
Scolari revealed he had been at pains to tell the 25-year-old striker he had to curb his individualistic streak for the good of the team.
"Ronaldo is a player - how can I put it - he's a little spoilt. We tried to show him the other side of things, the interest of the group. He reflected on that and reconciled himself with that way of thinking to end up doing what we wanted of him," said Scolari.
Scolari was set to leave the national side after the World Cup but now appears ready to stay in charge.


weird......:confused:......but when SCOLARI say this sort of stuff....than you might want to put you're finger close to you're head......and ask you're self......"IS SCOLARI RIGHT????".....and what if he is.....:confused:.....

[Il fenomeno]

Listen, el cino, u saw Ronaldo in the world cup. We saw how he accelerated... I mean, he just needs two-three months, and thats it... there u have ronnie 90-100 %. I tell you, even if Ronnie just reaches above 85 %, he is the best in the buisness.

I agree with Scolari about Ronnie's defensive duties... he has to struggle a bit more, but dont need to IMO, he should struggle offensively, and score 4 goals.

[Il fenomeno]

Listen, el cino, u saw Ronaldo in the world cup. We saw how he accelerated... I mean, he just needs two-three months, and thats it... there u have ronnie 90-100 %. I tell you, even if Ronnie just reaches above 85 %, he is the best in the buisness.

I agree with Scolari about Ronnie's defensive duties... he has to struggle a bit more, but dont need to IMO, he should struggle offensively, and score 40 goals for Inter this season.

[Skualo]

ronaldo now isnt the same player he was thast for sure..he won the world cup...fine...but we cant denny hes playing like scared...and i dont blame him 2 operations in the same knee....give hima entire season without a trouble and meaby we will see him in a 90%

[NeraAzzurri32]

........

Wake up, Ronaldo was garbage in the world cup, he got some his goals from leftover shots by Rivaldo and Ronaldhino, he barely did nothin but dance around the ball a few times...

Scolari is right, Ronaldo is all washed up...

[nismo]

Originally posted by Il fenomeno
Listen, el cino, u saw Ronaldo in the world cup. We saw how he accelerated... I mean, he just needs two-three months, and thats it... there u have ronnie 90-100 %. I tell you, even if Ronnie just reaches above 85 %, he is the best in the buisness.

I agree with Scolari about Ronnie's defensive duties... he has to struggle a bit more, but dont need to IMO, he should struggle offensively, and score 4 goals.
and you wanted him to be captain :silly: lol

[nismo]

we can't hide the fact that ronnie will never be 100%, after two major knee surgeries, it's just impossible for him to be the player that was nicknamed barca's king 5 years ago. the best we could hope for is 85-90% at most. he's playing with one and a half knee, but still better than most strikers in the world!!! he will return, but not to the standard that wowed the world back in 97+98
i strongly disagree with what neazurri32 said about ronaldo being wahsed up. for a player who made a come back after 2 years of inactivity and score 8 opportunistic goals at a worldcup and getting the golden boot is a major milestone. i commend ronnie for his courage and bravery at exorcising the ghosts of france98, and triumphing over chronic injuries to win the worldcup. ronaldo has returned, but even at 85%, no one can touch him.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by nismo

and you wanted him to be captain :silly: lol

No kidding! Vieri is the main man for Inter, not Ronaldo. It's been like that since the day Vieri arrived at Inter!

[Skualo]

Originally posted by nismo
we can't hide the fact that ronnie will never be 100%, after two major knee surgeries, it's just impossible for him to be the player that was nicknamed barca's king 5 years ago. the best we could hope for is 85-90% at most. he's playing with one and a half knee, but still better than most strikers in the world!!! he will return, but not to the standard that wowed the world back in 97+98
i strongly disagree with what neazurri32 said about ronaldo being wahsed up. for a player who made a come back after 2 years of inactivity and score 8 opportunistic goals at a worldcup and getting the golden boot is a major milestone. i commend ronnie for his courage and bravery at exorcising the ghosts of france98, and triumphing over chronic injuries to win the worldcup. ronaldo has returned, but even at 85%, no one can touch him.

absolutely agree with you...

[Il fenomeno]

Vieri the main man... ahhahaha

Im going to laugh at that statement. Listen, fatty aint no leader.

Ronaldo is better than him, even at 60 %... Trust me.

You say Ronaldo scored left over shots from Rivaldo and Ronaldinho, well, ***k head, what has vieri been doing all his carrer, besides from defelctions, and eazy tap ins, what the ***k has fat boy done?

Fatty even him self has said that Ronaldo is better.

Fatty is overrated, thats what it is. Im your looking for consistency and goal record. Jardel is better than fat-boy.

[NeraAzzurri32]

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Tap ins?, yea Ronaldo does that alot.

What has Vieri done last season?, he brought Inter to 1st place several times, and was Inter's top goal scorer. What has Ronaldo been doing for the past 2 frickin years?, oh yea recovering and taking millions from Inter, what a waste .....

Look at Ilfenomeno talk shmack about Vieri, just 5 months ago he was licking his balls as i remember....

[Il fenomeno]

He has done nothing, just scoring tap ins that Recoba, Seedorf and Dalmat have made for fatty. What happened in world cup you ***k face. Yoru hte one licking Vieri ass hole. We will see who scores more goals.

Ronaldo had a bet with Vieri, the one that scores the most goals in World Cup? Who won dick head?

The challenge is continuing. We will see who scores more goals.

Ronaldo's goal against turkey, hardly a tap in.

Ronaldo's goal against china, a tap in.

Ronaldo's second goal against costa rica, no tap in.

Ronaldo's goal against Belgium, between goalies legs.

Ronaldo's goal against turkey in semifinal, world class

Ronaldo's second goal in the final, no tap in.

You ***k face, you are to scared, living in the Vieri 32 shell, thinking he is the best piece of meat there is... hahahahahha I laugh at that. Sehvchenko is better, Inzaghi and Vieri are the same. Primadonnas who just tap in and think that they are the best.

Nerazzurri32, lets make a bet, about who scores more goals, vieri or Ronaldo. OK? WHats your bet, anything u want bitch.

[NeraAzzurri32]

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no that's ok, if i made a bet with you i'd look stupid, i only make bets with people who put up a good fight, but this is embrassing, so i'll lay off......

The only reason why Ronaldo had more goals then Vieri is because Brazil went farther then Italy you bonehead...


haha, your no challenge little girl, move bitch!!!

[NeraAzzurri32]

...Embarassing*********8

[Il fenomeno]

Lets make a bet than u ***king prick. Ronaldo still scored more goals than fat boy in 4 games, Ronaldo scored 5, how many did fat boy score?

Well, this is our bet, the one who scores most between Ronnie and Vieri, has the name.

So if I loose the bet (dream bitch), then I have the name, Vieri_the_best...

If you loose (obvious), Then u haev Ronaldo_the_best.

And we will not be counting goal wise, but we will se who has the best average, MINUTE WISE, not MATCH WISE-

Do u accept this you ***king prick?

[NeraAzzurri32]

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Oh yea i'm telling you Costa Rica and China was hard to score against.....


I told you, i'm not making bets with you, so deal with it...

[Sebastian]

...stop arguing.....:D.....this is rediculous....they bouth PLAY and kick ass for INTER and there's really no reason for you to insolt one another.....they're bouth extremely diferent and the cmparation between them is pointless......BOBO has his own stile and RONIE has adiferent view of the GOAL sensation...but they're BOUTH BRILIANT and they compose the DREAM DUO......they're bouth the BEST.......although i think that RONIE is slightly better.....just becouse he's eating the whole space that soraunds him......and he does that wayyyyy better than BOBO....VIERI is a DEMOLITION man......something like O'NEAL...in the basketball.....where COBY has to make everything so that this GIANT recieve the ball.....there's a similaruty between O'NEAL and BOBO.....:silly:........n.azzury admit man.....RONIE is more complete striker than BOBO.......

[NeraAzzurri32]

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If he was a more complete striker?, why can't he recover?...

[Il fenomeno]

Well, many people who haev two knee operations do not usually recover. Howcome fatty is in the hospital every other day, because of his clumsiness, fatty just falls all over the pitch.

I agree with el Chino, his statements make sense. U cannot compare the best in the world, with just an italian veteran.

Poor nerazzuri32... tooooo scared to make abet.... WOWOWWWW VIERI SCORED TWO GOALS AGAINST ECUADOR:::: WOOOWWWWW IMPRESSIVE ahahhaha

[NeraAzzurri32]

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Yea Vieri get injured, but he recovers no?,...lol Ronaldo simply made 2 steps and blew his knee, that was a great day for football, I think Kallon is more of a complete striker then Ronaldo.

That's right Ilfenomeno, i'm scared to make a bet with you

Wait, you mentioned Ecuador, he also scored against Croatia and Korea.

[Sebastian]

....you're posts are damn interesting......:D....just keep you're voice down.....;)......
i personaly dont think that RONIE isnt fit enough....he's more than fit...actually he's great...all he need is to regain his FITNESS level and work a litle bit more on his ACCELERATION....and the rest will be DAMN HISTORY....:evil:......

take a look at RONALDO counter ATACK to SCOLARI......:ronaldo:....

07/28/2002. Following Brazil coach Luiz Felipe Scolari's assertion that Ronaldo will never be 100% again, the striker has put the record straight.

"I feel more than 100%, I feel 200%," he told his official site. "I'm a player who comes on and off the pitch to have training without feeling any pain. This is the reason I have played a good World Cup

"For this I want to thank Josè Luis Runco, Franc Combi and Gerard Saillant, the physiotherapist that has assisted me and the doctors of Inter and the national team. I feel well."

a litlle bit ARROGANT dont you think.....:D......where the Zek is his legendary HUMBLENESS....:silly:........cos inhis rediculous web site all i can see is HUMBLE that...HUMBLE this....:rolleyes:.......
yeah i believe that SCOLARI was right when he said "ONALDO is a litle SPOILT"........but he's damn good....:evil:.....

[Il fenomeno]

Nerazzuri... what has fatty gained on an individual level? Has he ever won anything?

Ronaldo, though has been voted the best player in the world twice, altough is two years younger than fatty, and two years of lost football in injuries. Now that he is back, he scored 8 goals in 9 games.

Did vieri score any goal without Totti making the assist?


Vieri is just so overrated. I hope Cuper realizes it, and plays Ronaldo with Recoba instead.

Im open for a bet, but u are obviosuly afraid of that, cause u know you are going to loose.. hahah

[Elvis Pressley]

both of you must have something better to do in life than arguing on the internet about two men, Im sure im not the only one who thinks this whole thread is pathetic apart from Elcino and the first few posts.

ilfenomeno, you talk about Ronaldo like he is your girlfriend, nerazurri32 ..your pretty low saying things like "when he got injured its a good day for football" ..no injury to any player EVER is a good day for teh sport you moron.


now both of y'all stop it and start acting your damn age and not your penis size.

[BLAUGRANA]

You're absolutely clueless and obviously not an Inter fan, so go lobby for some dumb Ronaldo board.

Vieri fat? You must be the biggest fool on the WSB. Vieri is much more complete striker than Ronaldo is and ever will be. Vieri can score from distance, close range and from his head. How often does Ronaldo score with his head much less from distance? Vieri is much more the heart and soul of Inter than Ronaldo.

Then talking about personal accolades. Football is a team game and obviously a fool like yourself can't realize that.

[NeraAzzurri32]

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Elvis it is good to say things like hoping Ronaldo will break his legs, cause he took Millions from inter without playing a game.ronaldo is not a leader. but let me tell you this. I use to have respect Ronaldo before his injuries. but now, he's just a waste

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by NeraAzzurri32
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Elvis it is good to say things like hoping Ronaldo will break his legs, cause he took Millions from inter without playing a game.ronaldo is not a leader. but let me tell you this. I use to have respect Ronaldo before his injuries. but now, he's just a waste

Now you're starting to look like Il fenomeno. I think we now need to see what Ronaldo does this season and see what we think about him. He did score 7 goals in only 9 games for Inter last season, and that was after just coming off of injury.

[Skualo]

Originally posted by Il fenomeno


Poor nerazzuri32... tooooo scared to make abet.... WOWOWWWW VIERI SCORED TWO GOALS AGAINST ECUADOR:::: WOOOWWWWW IMPRESSIVE ahahhaha


wanst ecuador better than brazil in the qualification round?...

[Elvis Pressley]

Originally posted by §kualø



wanst ecuador better than brazil in the qualification round?...

yep


Argentina
Ecuador
Brazil
Uruguay

[Skualo]

yeah i know elvis it was a question to ilfenomeno;)

[Sebastian]

i watched last night the BRASIL vs GERMANY finale......and if the first time i was jumping like the kangaroo becouse of the unberable preassure...this time i had the pleasure to concentrate on every single player......
and to say that RONIE isnt fit enough when he acheaved the best PLAYER/SCORER prises....is APSURD.....he was bursting from ENERGY and power........
now 32 you have to consider my NEUTRAL status over this polemycs......cos neither BOBO nor RONIE is my favorite player....:smoking:.....

[BLAUGRANA]

VIERI, VIERI, VIERI!!! :evil:

[nismo]

is this argument still going on???
man get over it, ronaldo and bobo are both masters at what they're good at.
ronaldo has the best dribbling and techbique for a striker, and Bobo is the Shaq of football (as elcino would put it ;) ) , combine the two and you have the best strike partnerships of all time. Ronaldo can dribble past half the team and score a goal but Bobo can score when it counts be it flashy or scrappy.
both nera32 and ilfenomeno are wasting their time arguing over something that has no conclusive answer, since it's always going to come down to who you like more bobo or ronie. i like both players because they display unique characteristics, bobo with his physical prescence and ronie with his unlimited trickery and imgaination. man why do u guys reckon moratti wanted to unite the two in the first place:confused: :rolleyes:

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
VIERI, VIERI, VIERI!!! :evil:

you just keep on eye your's SAVIOLA and KLIVERT.....:silly:.....

why cant you two be HAPPY becouse you can see them bouth in the same JERSEY?????
...:fed-up:......

[Skualo]

hehe exactly what happen is that sometimes the fanatisim gets extreme:silly:

[nismo]

no sh!t
i think it's bordering on obsession for these two:silly:

[Sebastian]

......man....im happy to be RECOBA'S fan......:D......he aint a big rival neither to RONIE nor to BOBO.....he's just a HALF FORWARD.....and im glad.....;).....

[DRUMan]

Scolari is a dumb!He thinks that he is more important than Ronaldo...

[ronie]

man scolari always say that ronie will never get back to his best:mad: .... ***koff ronie will get back to his best and you just wait and see

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

Brazil’s running battles with the San Siro sides continue as Ronaldo and Rivaldo could miss their crucial Champions’ League qualifiers.


Both Inter and Milan must go through the preliminary round to enter the prestigious competition, but a friendly with Paraguay has been organised for August 21.


Inter will take on Sporting Lisbon while the Rossoneri face Sloven Liberec on Aug 14 and 28.


“The friendly is a celebration of our World Cup victory in Yokohama,” explained Coach Luiz Felipe Scolari, “so I could not leave these stars at home.”


While Ronaldo is Inter’s only Selecao hero to be dragged away for this game, Milan could miss out on new buy Rivaldo, defender Roque Junior and substitute goalkeeper Dida.


Gk: Marcos, Dida, Rogerio Ceni


D: Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Junior, Belletti, Anderson Polga, Lucio, Edmilson, Roque Junior


M: Emerson, Kleberson, Gilberto Silva, Juninho Paulista, Ricardinho, Denilson, Vampeta, Kakà


F: Ronaldo, Ronaldinho Gaucho, Rivaldo, Edilson, Luizao



THIS IS TOTALLY UNFAAAAAAIR !!

[Il fenomeno]

Ronaldo... i doubt will stay... but this is about his heart. He has served Brazil the World Cup, it is his morale obligation to put in for Inter now.

I just hope he stays, and does not go to brazil to play a little friendly.

[Elvis Pressley]

Ill be disappointed in him if he goes to Brazil for a friendly, It wont suprise me and I can understand why he would, but Ill still be disappointed.

[Sebastian]

.....well.......he's great but......there's allways this"BUT"......those two serious OPERTAIONS will defently leave a MARK......

[Severus]

Originally posted by ronie
man scolari always say that ronie will never get back to his best:mad: .... ***koff ronie will get back to his best and you just wait and see

oh ok. i'll take your word for it over his coach who wouldn't know a thing about ronaldo i'd imagine :confused:

[Severus]

Originally posted by nismo
ronaldo has the best dribbling and techbique for a striker, and Bobo is the Shaq of football (as elcino would put it ;) ) , combine the two and you have the best strike partnerships of all time.

if they are the best strike partnership of all time why could the 2 of them only muster up 1 whole goal vs lazio for the scudetto ???

i mean, dibiagio scored just as many as the 2 of them did the whole game ........

DEL PIERO-TREZEGUET is where its at !

the partnership of championships !!!!!!!!!

perhaps not as flashy, but they get the job done. which is more i can say about vieri-ronaldo.

[Severus]

OUCH !!! this guys has less pity than myself but obviously knows what he's talking about. he also sees through moratti's shallow disguise as a father figure which anyone can be when you have billions of $$$$$ to fall back on. money isn't everything and i am sure ronaldo, as stupid as he is, is even starting to realize it playing for the team which has only brought him sadness and major setbacks.

well hear it is, read it for yourself LOL

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aug4e.html

[Honey]

Well it's his choice but definitely Inter will need him........

[Skualo]

apparently real madrid is very interesed in him and is going to pay big bucks for him...some weeks ago it apperas a new that says that ronaldos values was 100M$ after WC so if real madrid want him they defetnetly have to pay that nothing less:mad:...i said that if ronaldo really wants to leave inter well let them go...cus if hes not happy here he wont play as we wish he does..if he leaves us he wont be a proffesional considering all the trust(and money) hat moratti and we all have on him during the long and hard injuries...the way i see it is that hes manager is an asshole who only wants to earn more and more money using ronaldo..he wants to brake the good relationships beetween inter and ronaldo making all those stupids comments to make polemics....

thinking in the benefits of the team if ronaldo leaves we could easily buy nesta and di vaio wich is 100times better that have ronaldo only...so i dont know dudes this ronaldo issue is to thinking about it, cus we could end easily in a good move...

ronaldo to madrid = nesta + di vaio from lazio and parma

man i say ronaldo leaves...but all these if he realy wants to leave to sing for those cocksuccers:mad2:

imagine...

--------------------------------toldo--------------------------------
------------------cordoba----nesta---materazzi-----------------
------zanetti---------di biaggio---czanetti------------coco-------
-----------------------------recoba---------------------------------
----------------vieri---------------------di vaio-------------------

:).....8 italian NT members in one team :thumbsup:

[Zek]

do we need Di Vaio?

I agree about benefits of selling Ronnie and buying Nesta.
I would even sell Vieri :D as a bonus for another 100 mln :evil:

and then buy someone creative like Aimar and a striker like hmmm like still thinking .... I doo not know.

I agree with you skualo but just to mention that Di Vaio is not the player we need in attack, he lacks class!

[FANTA]

woohoo $100M for ronaldo ! what a deal, lets take it !

[nismo]

don't tell me you believe this crap that the tabloids came up with. i don't know why you bother posting it up it's pure bullshit but then again, you and bullshit do go hand in hand :D :angel:

[nismo]

Originally posted by Severus


if they are the best strike partnership of all time why could the 2 of them only muster up 1 whole goal vs lazio for the scudetto ???

i mean, dibiagio scored just as many as the 2 of them did the whole game ........

DEL PIERO-TREZEGUET is where its at !

the partnership of championships !!!!!!!!!

perhaps not as flashy, but they get the job done. which is more i can say about vieri-ronaldo.
errrr yeah whatever

...so how's it going elcino

[Il fenomeno]

100 million for Vieri.

Vieri aint even half Ronaldo.

We would get at most 50 million euros for him.

[doz]

In case anyone is wondering i have decided to merge all threads about Ronaldo together in this thread as there were too many individual threads.It is obvious that Ronaldo is the man on most of our lips so i think it's fair to have a thread where we can discuss him as an individual.

doz

[ronie]

Originally posted by FANTA
woohoo $100M for ronaldo ! what a deal, lets take it ! dont split the vieraldo up. why take it when ronaldo-vieri is the best partnership:mad:

[Skualo]

Originally posted by Zek
do we need Di Vaio?

I agree about benefits of selling Ronnie and buying Nesta.
I would even sell Vieri :D as a bonus for another 100 mln :evil:

and then buy someone creative like Aimar and a striker like hmmm like still thinking .... I doo not know.

I agree with you skualo but just to mention that Di Vaio is not the player we need in attack, he lacks class!

in case of selling ronaldo we need a new striker and man....di vaio is pure CLASS...but your rite in the point of a need of a trequartista i said buying costa form milan :D

[Zek]

:rolling:

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

IF we r gonna get a striker i say go for ........ Crespo ?? , but i dunno , Costa will do fine in midfield with recoba and Vieri in Attack .... that would be ideal since Cuper is defensive minded :p

[Honey]

Today Eurosport talked bout Ronaldo being bought by Real.
If he wants to go there , then ok !

[CoreDud]

I don't know why there are some people who criticize Vieri by saying that he's not as good as ronaldo or saying that he cost just half of what ronaldo costs....man, is this an inter forum or a ronaldo one? if we are all inter fans as some would claim we wouldn't bash the guy who has helped inter through so much....firstly where was ronaldo when vieri was smashing in the goals last season to keep inter at the top of serie A.? oh yeah earning millions in wages by seating on his couch watching the evening news...and then vieri was injured after giving his all to help inter win a pre-season tournament recently, where was ronaldo then? oh yeah sitting on his couch listening to his manager tell him how good going to madrid will be...yes ronaldo is a good footballer but this is an inter forum and by criticizing the guy who is the one who really loves inter and supporting the one who really does not, the whole point here is lost, do we all watch inter play so just we can catch a glimpse of ronaldo? If the news report about ronaldo leaving is true then by all means as an inter fan in my heart vieri is valued much higher than ronaldo will ever be...

[ronie]

vieri is valued much hogher than ronaldo?.....:mad: .......***koff ronaldo is the best dribbler and can get past any defenders he wants and gets the job done and vieri isn't much of a dribbler but he's a good finisher with shot power and therefore ronaldo is ***ken better:D

[Slavenik]

I have heard a lot of things on this thread. Some thing like Ronaldo for 100mil Euros, lets take it, we can get Nesta and Di Vaio. Well, i have one thing to say. -***K- Nesta and Di Vaio. We must not loose Roni. Ronaldos worth 300 milion Euro, and he can bring it all to us. Moratti did a lot for him and i dont think that Roni is that big asswhole to give a slap to Inter menagment, medical staff and fans. All of theese gave a big support to him. Today he will come to Milan and we will see the outcoming of this shit.

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

Ronaldo's future may be uncertain but his wife is definitely staying put in Milan, according to Sergio Negrini, president of women's Serie A side Fiammamonza where she plays.
"Milene is signed to us. Even if Ronaldo doesn't stay with Inter she will continue to play in Fiammamonza's colours. She signed a contract," Negrini said of Milene Dominguez, Ronaldo's soccer star wife.
Negrini told Tuesday's Corriere della Sera he's already been in contact with "Ronaldina" by phone, and according to him, she's keen to stay even if her husband is reportedly unhappy in Milan.
"We discussed the programme for the next season together."
Ronaldina, the 23-year-old top model turned soccer star is due to meet Fiammamonza trainer Raffaele Solimeno in Milan on Wednesday, around the same time her husband will tell Inter he no longer wants to play for them.
"With us she's always been very clear," said Solimeno.
"We talked three days ago. My mind is at ease, she will stay in Milan even if her husband goes to Spain or somewhere else. We've arranged for all the squad to meet on August 18."
"She's already booked a room for the baby sitter and little Ronald. She asked me if she could have a couple of hours a day with the baby, which is fine by us. Milene is a fundamental element of the team."
Ronaldina made her debut earlier this year for Fiammamonza after recovering from an ailment which has blighted Ronaldo's sojourn at Inter - a knee injury.



well i dunno , this seems like good news , the guy has to be with his wife and son ......

[OAnimal]

Or maybe he'll get divorced from his wife too? :D;)

[Sebastian]

....:confused:.....last year there was a FICTIONAL phone call form anonimuous caller....which is logicly called"RONALDO"...and said to EAL officials to send an offer for him to INTER......:rolleyes:......i laughed my socks off.....but that was a diferent thing......now we have to admit that INTER lost the naional title in a wery unfamiliar way...with a lot of enigmas wraped.....i think this is too much fo someone with a UNSERTAIN individuality like RONIE......he lost the title in 97....and he fears that the same thing will happen even next year..........what im trying to say is that this year is the final one.......i cant talk about you guys....but my bones are trembling when i think of the preassure that awaits INTER......if we lose the SCUDETTO or the CL.....than you ca bet on you're asses that not RONALDO wouldnt be the only one that will leave INTER......im convinced that a lot of our stars will have they're departure from out team.......i dont think that this ROMALDO leaving INTER is serious.....but it could be.......
but i want to add something.....eveeryone is sick and tired from losing........im sick of it...you are....and what's most important our PLAYERS and the coach are sick of it....:fed-up:......at this moment....is an APSURD to send an offer even for DI BIAGIO.....and we're talikin about our TRADE MARK.....i dont think that this will come true....THIS YEAR.....and as long as we kick some serious ss next season.....we can forget about RONALDO leaving.....but if contrary happens than...we know the scenario......:evil:.....i dont see why REAL is stronger than INTER....we can thrash them and every one GOD damn SQUAD......

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

OH BOY , im scared , well he just landed in Milan ... this was on Soccerage :


08/06/2002. Ronaldo has just landed at the Malpensa airport in Milan. The Fenomeno is expected to meet Inter's board (not chairman Moratti, who is on holiday...) right after his arrival, but what is he going to say? Why does he want to leave Serie A and join Real Madrid?

Apparently, the issues which led the Fenomeno to the decision of leaving Inter are three. First of all, the difficult relationship with Hector Cuper, who is "guilty" of considering him like all of the other players. In a few words, the Argentinean coach didn't make him feel "special": however, this looks like a one-sided "antipathy": as a matter of fact, Cuper keeps on stating that Ronie is fundamental for the Nerazzurri.

Another man Ronaldo apparently doesn't put up with is Juan Alfano, responsible for Inter's physical training. According to the Brazilian striker, Alfano's methods don't fit in with his muscular problems, and all of the injuries he picked up last season were provoked precisely by this "wrong" way of training.

Last but not least, Ronaldo wasn't satisfied with Inter's attitude during his rehabilitation period, which he spent almost entirely in Brazil and in Palma De Mallorca. Most of the Italian papers wrote that he should have stayed in Milan with his teammates, thus somehow insinuating that he was there to have fun, as well as to train. Ronie didn't feel protected by the club, which should have defended him with more conviction.

In the meanwhile, Real Madrid are waiting for some news. General manager Jorge Valdano keeps on stating that the Merengues won't make an offer until Inter tell them that the deal is possible, but reports from Spain reveal that Real have already made a bid, offering either Solari or Morientes plus 25 million Euros. If this is true, it's going to be a very difficult deal: chairman Moratti values his player at no less than 100 million Euros.


WHAT THE FU*K .... now let me get this ... First .. WHY the hell is Moratti on vacation , he deserves one .. but NOT in this moment .. but he probably told the board what to say , and will probably to to Roni on phone .....

What's this shit about inter fans not supporting him .. is KIDDIN" or what ? we've always been behind him . any other Club ..... umm , like REAL for instance would have kicked him out of the club for this 2 years injury ..

and ... SOLARI OR MORIENTIS + 25 m .... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ya really funny :D :D :D

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

Capello also commented on the reports that Ronaldo is set to ask Inter to be sold to Real Madrid.

"I don’t want to interfere with business that doesn’t concern me but I am with President Massimo Moratti," he said.

"Especially when you consider how Inter have treated Ronaldo throughout his various injury problems."

this was on the channel 4 site .....
how nice from Capello :)

[Slavenik]

You got it Elchino, we must win something. But dont worry, if Roni stays and doesnt injure himself together with Vieri can bring some title, no matter if it is the CL or Scudetto, pretty the same to me.

[doz]

08/06/2002. Ronaldo's spokesman Rodrigo Paiva says his client has no plans to ask Inter to sell him.

Earlier speculation had suggested that the Brazilian was highly likely to put in a transfer request but, Paiva said: "Ronnie is not here to ask to be sold, but only to solve some problems. We'll see, we have to talk with Moratti."

With Inter president away on holiday, Ronaldo is in discussions with Nerazzurri board member Rinaldo Ghelfi.

When the player arrived at the airport at 15.41 Milan time, he was greeted by over 100 fans, with one banner reading 'Ronaldo Ungrateful'.


Still looks precarious despite this announcement i think.

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

im happy to break this news to everyone :

soccerage.com :

08/06/2002. Ronaldo's spokesman Rodrigo Paiva says his client has no plans to ask Inter to sell him.

Earlier speculation had suggested that the Brazilian was highly likely to put in a transfer request but, Paiva said: "Ronnie is not here to ask to be sold, but only to solve some problems. We'll see, we have to talk with Moratti."

With Inter president away on holiday, Ronaldo is in discussions with Nerazzurri board member Rinaldo Ghelfi.

When the player arrived at the airport at 15.41 Milan time, he was greeted by over 100 fans, with one banner reading 'Ronaldo Ungrateful'.



THANK YOU GOD , thank godness , OH BOY , im happy , im happy now , what a RELIEF ........ :D :) ;) :cool: :silly: :cry: :p

[doz]

It's kind of misleading.He's not asking for a transfer but he has to discuss problems with Moratti?:confused:

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

well ya , it's kinda strange after all this atorm ... and .. what problems , does he mean the thing about Alfano that was metioned on soccerage ... or those stuff with cuper ... but im sure that Moratti settle everything with him , Ronaldo wouldn't say NO to Moratti ... we'll see ... i don't understand anything anymore

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

well ya , it's kinda strange after all this atorm ... and .. what problems , does he mean the thing about Alfano that was metioned on soccerage ... or those stuff with cuper ... but im sure that Moratti settle everything with him , Ronaldo wouldn't say NO to Moratti ... we'll see ... i don't understand anything anymore:confused: :p

[Sebastian]

you dont understand????
...it's simple....:D......the spoiled brat wants to be the one with highest salary......;)......money TALKS.......as usual......when RECOBA who is also an ARROGANT idiot...wanned to leave a 100 000 pounds SCREAMED and he got "scared"....that's why he sayed in INTER.....:rolleyes:.......


you know im really considering to hange my NICK cos you cant really rely on any of this GREEDY bustards.....they care only about they're banck acounts......and if a player leaves the club you're gonna and up with you're cock in you're hands....:silly:.....

[Sebastian]

Real Already Planning Ronaldo Presentation

/06/2002. According to Spanish daily Marca, Real Madrid are so sure that they will sign Ronaldo that they are already planning the presentation of the Inter striker.

The website says that Ronaldo will tell Inter that he wants to leave the club at the sit down today and his managers will meet with the Inter board to ratify what has been decided.

Real and Inter have a good relationship together, and one member of the Real board is so sure that the player will sign on, that he wanted to have him introduced to the press either yesterday or today.

Just how much truth lies in these reports will become apparent very shortly.


:silly:....:ronaldo:......

there was a meeting between the tooth ass and our menagers......

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

elcino , if money is all they think about ... then why the hell did they take a pay-cut ? :confused:

[Sebastian]

pay cut...:D......if you're gettin 100 000 $ a week and you suddenly say "i'll reduse my salary 10 000$"....is that a big deal???

believe me it's all about that.....with that you show how much you apreciate a sertain player.....why do you think FIGO left BARCA.....

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

did u ever stop to think that .. maybe it's Cuper who Ronaldo doesn't feel comfortable with ... ;)

[Sebastian]

all players deserve atention and they're all part of a team....now the fcat that RONIE is spoiled it's another thing....:rolleyes:....

[Honey]

I haven't heard bout Vieri wantin' to leave....... And he also did the pay-cut thing......




[b] RONALDO IS JUST UNGREATFUL ! INTER DID TOO MUCH FOR HIM ! wHICH CLUB WOULD'VE PAYED HIM WITHOUT PLAYIN'??[b]

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

well this just came out :




After a week of speculation Ronaldo has at last spoken to the press about his row with Inter.


“I arrived today and immediately went to talk with the club,” read the statement late Tuesday evening.


“I confirmed my point of view, which is the same opinion that my agent Alexandre Martins explained to President Massimo Moratti three months ago.”


The Brazilian was referring to the protests over his low wages compared to teammates Christian Vieri and Alvaro Recoba.


The World Cup winner was met with a large banner at Malpensa airport which referred to him as “an ingrate”, a reaction he was evidently not expecting.


“I am sad to see the Inter fans’ reaction,” continued Ronaldo, “although I understand their disappointment. But I prefer to live through this situation instead of publicly explaining the reasons which make me think of a future far away from Inter.”


“Those who know me well know that money is not the most important thing for me. I will respect the club until the very end, a club that has always been by my side through difficult times.”


“I shall also hold on to the professional obligations in my contract, as I have always done, and hope that in the next few days the situation can evolve in a positive fashion for myself and for Inter.”


The statement does not clarify the situation, as there is no mention of Real Madrid or the reasons behind this sudden turnaround.


The speech does hint that the motives lie in the heartbreaking loss of the Scudetto in May and the row over wages that followed.


This would boost those who claimed that the Real move was an elaborate bluff to increase his standing within the club, but it appears to have backfired if the fans’ reaction is anything to go by.


Internet forums are flooded with insults and angry tirades against their former hero, while few seem to disagree with ‘milking’ Ronaldo for £60m to improve the rest of the squad.


still no clear answer ... is Moratti gonna give hima a pay-raise , this seems the only problem from what he stated ... it's all in Moratti's hands ... perhaps he will sweet-talk him .. he love Roni :rolleyes:

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

http://www.eurosport.com/imgbk/FOOTBL/ALL/MD-I84734.jpg


im tellin you , if this man goes to REAL , Inter Fans will assasinate him .. :mad: :bloody:

[nismo]

Originally posted by RoNaLdO_FaNaTiC
did u ever stop to think that .. maybe it's Cuper who Ronaldo doesn't feel comfortable with ... ;)
I doubt it's got anything to do with cuper, because he's stated earlier that ronaldo is the focus of the team, and he intends to build the team around R9.....that's if he stays of course

[nismo]

BTW Ronaldo Fanatic, if it's got anything to do with Cuper it could be the scudetto loss, after all, he was in charge of inter's tactics and formation for the last few weeks of the competition. But to blame it on cuper would be unfair, as the players lossed their heads when it really mattered most.

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

BTW , if Ronaldo happens to stay with Inter this season , and Inter doesn't win anything .. then undoubtedly he will leave .. and some other few players will do as well .. i think .. i can't imagine who ? but im sure some of them would want to leave .

im not trying to predict the future .. but , let's face it .. this is reality .. we HAVE to win somethin this season .. and I have the confidence in our team and coach to make this year , hopefully . ;)

[CoreDud]

What Ronaldo said really contradicts....you see he said that money was not a concern for him and that he does not care about money BUT he goes to Inter headquarters and demands for higher wages as much as Vieri and Recoba....what is this? This generally means that if he does not get the pay that frankly he does not deserve he would walk out and join another team that agrees to his ridiculous wage demands...He should think about this... how much contribution has he done for Inter if compared with Vieri and Recoba? while he gets paid while injured, Vieri and Recoba is sweating and panting on the field doing what a footballer is supposed to do...so i ask who deserve the wages more Vieri and Recoba or Ronaldo? that is a question he should ask himself...what an idiot...

[ronie]

***kup coredud:mad: ronie just wants the same amount as recoba and vieri and who was the one that got paid the most which hardly got used.... recoba and anyway he wont ***ken leave cos since all the stuff the moratti did for him ronie will pay him back by wining the scudetto 3 times:D

[Slavenik]

CoreDud, Ronaldo thinks that he should at least have the same wages as the other players. After all he is the best player in the world, not Vieri nor Recoba. So he thinks that he deserves bigger wages that Recoba and Vieri, but this doesnt mean that Inter should increase Ronis wages over 10 mil, i think they should increase the wages for about 3, 3.5 milions, which is high too and decrease Chinos wages.

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

this was on soccerway.com

MILAN, Aug 7 (AFP) - Brazil star Ronaldo will remain an Inter player failing a concrete offer from Real Madrid, his lawyer Alexandre Martins said Wednesday as the player began training with his team mates.

"Ronaldo chose the Italian team. He's an Inter player and will remain at Inter 365 days a year for four years. He has a contract which he wants to respect and therefore, will continue to work with Inter.

"He still has to talk with the board, but there are no negotiations with nor an offer from Real," Martins said.

well ... YAY .. 356 days a year for four years ... that's good for me :D :ronaldo:

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

who's martins .. is he the bold guy in the picture ..?? :mad:

[Slavenik]

Thats what i wanted to hear.:)

Set to remain at the San Siro (AP)
08/07/2002. The curtain appears to have finally closed on the Ronaldo saga after the Brazilian superstar's agent Alexandre Martins made a statement on Wednesday morning confirming 'Il Fenomeno' will stay at Inter.

"Ronaldo has chosen the Italian team. He is an Inter player and will stay at Inter 365 days for 4 years. He has a contract he intends to respect, and therefore he will continue to work with Inter. He still has to speak with the club, but there aren't any talks going on with Real," said Martins.

Earlier today Spanish website Marca.com reported that Real Madrid didn't intend to sign Ronaldo anylonger, a choice that probably led to Martins' unexpected statement.

General manager Jorge Valdano is expected to outline Real Madrid's official position later today.

The former Argentina star had a late-night conversation with Martins, who told Real's gm that the meeting between the player and Inter's board had a negative outcome and that the Italian club was not willing to transfer the Brazilian superstar.

As soon as he was informed of the latest developments, Floretino Perez decided to give up on the deal.

There are several reasons behind this decision.

First of all, Real don't want to spoil the very good relations they have with Inter. In addition the Merengue fans appeared pretty cold in these days with regards to the possible arrival of Il Fenomeno. Last but not least, Real want to keep on giving confidence to Fernando Morientes, who is very appreciated by his teammates.

In the meantime, Ronaldo is training all alone in Appiano Gentile as Cuper and the rest of the team left earlier this morning for Bari where the Nerazzurri will face Juventus and Chelsea in the Birra Moretti three-way tournament this evening.

[Sebastian]

.....those who reacted in a bizare way towards RONALDO should apologize to him...after all he will make us "kangaoos" next season....:evil:....:smoking:.....

[Honey]

Originally posted by ronie
***kup coredud:mad: ronie just wants the same amount as recoba and vieri and who was the one that got paid the most which hardly got used.... recoba and anyway he wont ***ken leave cos since all the stuff the moratti did for him ronie will pay him back by wining the scudetto 3 times:D



Oh , c'mon! Will u pls come down on earth???
Ronaldo winnin' the scudetto 3 times.............not without good team!

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by ronie
***kup coredud:mad: ronie just wants the same amount as recoba and vieri and who was the one that got paid the most which hardly got used.... recoba and anyway he wont ***ken leave cos since all the stuff the moratti did for him ronie will pay him back by wining the scudetto 3 times:D

Ronaldo better pay Inter back. Jetting off to Brazil for rehab when he should have been rehabbing in Italy. He needs to prove himself again before he even thinks about asking for a pay rise. Funny how he's injured all season and then when the WC comes around he's firing on all cylinders. It's pretty obvious to see where his priorities were.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Slavenik
CoreDud, Ronaldo thinks that he should at least have the same wages as the other players. After all he is the best player in the world, not Vieri nor Recoba. So he thinks that he deserves bigger wages that Recoba and Vieri, but this doesnt mean that Inter should increase Ronis wages over 10 mil, i think they should increase the wages for about 3, 3.5 milions, which is high too and decrease Chinos wages.

Vieri is better than Ronaldo and has been for Inter. He's also much more loyal than Ronaldo ever will be.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by doz
08/06/2002. Ronaldo's spokesman Rodrigo Paiva says his client has no plans to ask Inter to sell him.

Earlier speculation had suggested that the Brazilian was highly likely to put in a transfer request but, Paiva said: "Ronnie is not here to ask to be sold, but only to solve some problems. We'll see, we have to talk with Moratti."

With Inter president away on holiday, Ronaldo is in discussions with Nerazzurri board member Rinaldo Ghelfi.

When the player arrived at the airport at 15.41 Milan time, he was greeted by over 100 fans, with one banner reading 'Ronaldo Ungrateful'.


Still looks precarious despite this announcement i think.

Once again the dozzer is spot on.

I believe Ronaldo about as much as I believe he could benefit from a makeover. What a DISGRACE!!! He should apologize to Morratti and the Inter fans IMMEDIATELY!!! Whether he wants to go or not, he's not been very quick or decisive to quash the speculation surrounding him. I think he definately wants to go regardless of what he says.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by elcino
you dont understand????
...it's simple....:D......the spoiled brat wants to be the one with highest salary......;)......money TALKS.......as usual......when RECOBA who is also an ARROGANT idiot...wanned to leave a 100 000 pounds SCREAMED and he got "scared"....that's why he sayed in INTER.....:rolleyes:.......


you know im really considering to hange my NICK cos you cant really rely on any of this GREEDY bustards.....they care only about they're banck acounts......and if a player leaves the club you're gonna and up with you're cock in you're hands....:silly:.....

You should change your nick!

It's the club that comes first!

[BLAUGRANA]

If he wants to leave, sell his crippled you know what!!! :fed-up:
:mad: :mad2: :mad: :mad2:

If Real want him so bad, make them fork over a BOATLOAD of cash!!!!! Then we can go out and get Nesta and even Montella. Ronaldo would quickly become a memory. Or better yet, just tell them "Sure, we'd love to give you Ronaldo. You just send Raul our way and we'll be all settled." See how they like that!!! We don't need Makelele cause he's just another money-grubbing mercenary like Ronaldo.

And as far as all of you Ronaldo fans on the Inter board go, I suggest you decide where your allegiance lies right now. This isn't the Brazil board or the $MERCENARIES$ board! If we sell his sorry azz, you all can head over to the ghosttown board otherwise known as the Real Madrid board and disgrace that board instead of this one. Don't get too comfortable though, cause when you start slaggin Raul like you have Vieri, i'll be over there putting it to you while Ronaldo sits on Real's treatment table every season!

I'm tired of Ronaldo's bullsh1t and the bullsh1t that his fans on this board preach. :fed-up: The true Interistas on this board know who they are and who the loyal Inter players are who want to play for the club.

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

geeeeees pal ...... chill ... nobody is goin nowhere .. real said they don't want him anymore ... so Moratti is gonna solve the problem .. he knows what's he doin ... we should have faith in him ... whether he decides to sell ronie or talk him into stayin ... and i agree that roni should not have a rise .... we should AT LEAST wait untill mid-season to see how he does ...


i don't mean anythin by this .. but .. is the fact that you r a Barca fan what makes you SOOOO MAAAD that roni wants to join REAL .. :silly: ??

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by RoNaLdO_FaNaTiC
geeeeees pal ...... chill ... nobody is goin nowhere .. real said they don't want him anymore ... so Moratti is gonna solve the problem .. he knows what's he doin ... we should have faith in him ... whether he decides to sell ronie or talk him into stayin ... and i agree that roni should not have a rise .... we should AT LEAST wait untill mid-season to see how he does ...


i don't mean anythin by this .. but .. is the fact that you r a Barca fan what makes you SOOOO MAAAD that roni wants to join REAL .. :silly: ??

I'm an Inter fan as well and no it has nothing to do with it. I wasn't a Barca fan until the season after he left.

I say wait until after the season and then CONSIDER giving him a raise. Not a moment before.

[BLAUGRANA]

This from soccerage.com:


08/07/2002. Bayern Munich president Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, a former Inter player in the 80s, blasted Ronaldo for not being thankful to his club after trying to get a transfer to Real Madrid.

"This is disgusting", Rummenigge said. "This player spent two seasons on the sidelines and Inter patiently rebuilt him and paid him 100% of his wages and now he says he wants to go away".

"What a lack of gratitude towards Inter and chairman Moratti. This can't be the future of football, there has to be something more to this sport than mercenaries".


He is spot on!!! Even if he stays, Ronaldo has disgraced himself and spat in the face of Inter and Moratti. Let's all just forget about Ronaldo and concentrate on our brilliant new signing...

FABIO CANNAVARO!!!

[Elvis Pressley]

BARI - These are the words of the nerazzurri captain, Javier Zanetti, at the conclusion of Inter's victorious participation of Birra Moretti Tournament: "A good result against two opponents of good quality. For what its worth the situation of Ronaldo, I would want to say to him that all the squad has wished that you return as soon as possible. The squad has trust in the manager. Cuper will ensure us a big future".




inter.it

translated by me.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Elvis Pressley
BARI - These are the words of the nerazzurri captain, Javier Zanetti, at the conclusion of Inter's victorious participation of Birra Moretti Tournament: "A good result against two opponents of good quality. For what its worth the situation of Ronaldo, I would want to say to him that all the squad has wished that you return as soon as possible. The squad has trust in the manager. Cuper will ensure us a big future".




inter.it

translated by me.

Funny how some of the Il Mercenario fans here wanted Ronaldo as captain. What a joke!

[nismo]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Funny how some of the Il Mercenario fans here wanted Ronaldo as captain. What a joke!
hehehe, who was it again that suggested ronaldo be our captain???????:rolleyes:
what fools:angel:

[nismo]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
If he wants to leave, sell his crippled you know what!!! :fed-up:
:mad: :mad2: :mad: :mad2:

If Real want him so bad, make them fork over a BOATLOAD of cash!!!!! Then we can go out and get Nesta and even Montella. Ronaldo would quickly become a memory. Or better yet, just tell them "Sure, we'd love to give you Ronaldo. You just send Raul our way and we'll be all settled." See how they like that!!! We don't need Makelele cause he's just another money-grubbing mercenary like Ronaldo.

And as far as all of you Ronaldo fans on the Inter board go, I suggest you decide where your allegiance lies right now. This isn't the Brazil board or the $MERCENARIES$ board! If we sell his sorry azz, you all can head over to the ghosttown board otherwise known as the Real Madrid board and disgrace that board instead of this one. Don't get too comfortable though, cause when you start slaggin Raul like you have Vieri, i'll be over there putting it to you while Ronaldo sits on Real's treatment table every season!

I'm tired of Ronaldo's bullsh1t and the bullsh1t that his fans on this board preach. :fed-up: The true Interistas on this board know who they are and who the loyal Inter players are who want to play for the club.
true that bradda
all the ronaldo beyatches will prolly change their avatars to some other club when he eventually leaves inter. i used to respect and admire ronaldo as player, even as a person with all his UN duties, but now i just see him as a fantastic footballer, as for a human being, he's down their with the likes of figo and mercenaries from the defunct Soviet union.
Recoba and Bobo to lead Inter's frontline :thumbsup:

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by nismo

true that bradda
all the ronaldo beyatches will prolly change their avatars to some other club when he eventually leaves inter. i used to respect and admire ronaldo as player, even as a person with all his UN duties, but now i just see him as a fantastic footballer, as for a human being, he's down their with the likes of figo and mercenaries from the defunct Soviet union.
Recoba and Bobo to lead Inter's frontline :thumbsup:

I was just rereading my big post. Can you imagine Vieri and Raul together? I think they'd be an amazing partnership.

[nismo]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Vieri is better than Ronaldo and has been for Inter. He's also much more loyal than Ronaldo ever will be.
Do you mean better than ronaldo skill wise or match wise??
Because bobo has been far more effective for inter than ronaldo for the past 2 seasons, and he's been bangin them in left, right and centre on a match by match basis.
and yes true interistas know about bobo's loyalty and only a ronaldo-hoe would disagree that bobo has the heart and soul of a nerazzuri.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by nismo

Do you mean better than ronaldo skill wise or match wise??
Because bobo has been far more effective for inter than ronaldo for the past 2 seasons, and he's been bangin them in left, right and centre on a match by match basis.
and yes true interistas know about bobo's loyalty and only a ronaldo-hoe would disagree that bobo has the heart and soul of a nerazzuri.

I mean as an overall striker in what he brings to the team. I think Vieri is more well-rounded than Ronaldo as a striker and can score goals by more means.

[CoreDud]

Oh spare me your shallow insults Ronie.....you're obviously just a media-influenced Ronaldo fan nothing more....i think that you just see Inter for Ronaldo yeah? The fact that Recoba wan't use much in your own stated opinion is because 1)the passport scandal and 2) the fact that coaches decide who gets to play and if he doesn't get to play it is by not fault of his own...so think properly before writing accusations about inter players that obviously you don't like because their not so prominent in the media...and yeah right ronaldo is going to win us three scudettos where did you heard it from? oh yeah i think from a website who stats that he is an out-of-this-world footballer and that he alone controls the FATE OF THE WHOLE INTER TEAM! wake up and smell the roses ronie just because ronaldo's back doesn't guarantee a scudetto for inter.....sheesh....

[Slavenik]

SA Exclusive: Ronaldo Still Wants To Leave Inter, Says Rodrigo Paiva
He could still leave San Siro... (Allsport)
08/07/2002. Just when it appeared that Martins had closed the curtain on the Ronaldo saga, the story has taken another amazing twist. Rodrigo Paiva (another agent of Ronaldo), has exclusively revealed to SoccerAge.com sister site Rete.it's Alberto Masu today, that Ronaldo still wants to leave Inter, and that the situation is far from resolved.

Q: Mr. Paiva in these past days we have heard a lot of things. Now Martins says that Ronaldo will stay at Inter. Is this true?

A: Many people have spoken in these past days, but nobody understands what's going on. What Martins said today is that Ronaldo did what he had to do. He spoke with Moratti's representatives and told them what Martins had already said a few months ago, and the same things that Martins repeated last week. Now Ronaldo did what he had to do, and Inter have to think and decide what is best for the club and for Ronaldo.

Also, in the past Ronaldo has made it apparent that he is not happy here in Italy. But it is not exactly true that he isn't happy in Italy. He isn't happy for some negative situations he is living at Inter and he clearly explained that yesterday afternoon.

Q: So Ronaldo would like to speak with Moratti to clear some of these situations up?

A: I don't know. But Ronaldo did what he had to do. Now he only has to wait, because if Inter decide that the best thing for the club is Ronaldo staying in Milan, then he has a contract until 2005 and he will respect it.

Q: However if Ronaldo ends up staying, these problems could continue, right?

A: Yes, I think so. However, for Ronaldo it will be easy to change this situation. He only has to speak and outline the reasons that brought him to want a future away from Inter. However, staying at Inter doesn't appear to me to be the best solution for Ronaldo, because it will cause an enormous amount of problems, a mess for the team and those that work for it. The best thing is to resolve the problem face to face, with the chairman, trying to take a decision.

Q: The press has hinted that Ronaldo's main problems lie with Cuper. But maybe it isn't only a problem with the coach...
A: The press speaks about Cuper, but neither Ronaldo, nor me or Martins have ever said anything about Cuper. I repeat, Ronaldo did what he had to do. Yesterday he spoke and said everything he had to.

Q: So, for you, the best solution would be for Ronaldo to leave?
A: I don't know, this is what Ronaldo has in his head at the time being. But if there is another solution, it's ok. But now Inter have to do something.

Q: And where is Ronaldo going to end up if he leaves Inter? Real, Manchester...
A: This problem doesn't depend on Real Madrid, Manchester, or Flamengo. It's only a problem between Inter and Ronaldo. When this problem resolves itself, then he will think of another team. But with the price tag fixed by Inter (100 million Euros), it's not easy to find a team for Ronaldo.

Q: Do you think you'll get to speak to Moratti this week?
A: No, Ronaldo has already spoken to Moratti's representatives, and now he won't speak with anyone on this topic and won't look for anyone. If somebody from Inter wants to speak to him, fine. But he won't speak on his own will anymore.

The situation is a grim one and a solution must be found and found fast. It clearly appears that Ronaldo has said what he has to. Now, the ball is in Inter's court. Moratti and Inter need to make a decision. They need to take a decisive action to resolve Ronnie's problems, and that action should not be the sale of Ronaldo to Real or Manchester, but that of eliminating the obstacles he faces in living life normally as an Inter player.

[ronie]

look i was just ***ken pistoff at R9 cos i thought that he was ***ken going to leave and now i know that he's not lets just kool it

[Slavenik]

Bayern Chairman Rummenigge Blasts Ronaldo


08/07/2002. Bayern Munich president Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, a former Inter player in the 80s, blasted Ronaldo for not being thankful to his club after trying to get a transfer to Real Madrid.

"This is disgusting", Rummenigge said. "This player spent two seasons on the sidelines and Inter patiently rebuilt him and paid him 100% of his wages and now he says he wants to go away".

"What a lack of gratitude towards Inter and chairman Moratti. This can't be the future of football, there has to be something more to this sport than mercenaries".

[Slavenik]

I dont think that Ronaldo will leave us because than he will screw up his career. There will be a lot of preasure and a lot of negative critics like this one and some others. So Pavia said that he still wants to leave, Martins said the case is closed, but it looks like Moratti will be the one to decide if Roni stays or leaves. I hope he stays and those problems could be solved.

[ronie]

i bet you he'll just win a scudetto with inter and then he'll leave

[Slavenik]

Probably, maybe two:confused: We will see.

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

Probably, maybe two We will see.


selvanik .. don't get your hoped high buddy :silly: :silly:

[nismo]

Originally posted by Slavenik
I dont think that Ronaldo will leave us because than he will screw up his career. There will be a lot of preasure and a lot of negative critics like this one and some others. So Pavia said that he still wants to leave, Martins said the case is closed, but it looks like Moratti will be the one to decide if Roni stays or leaves. I hope he stays and those problems could be solved.
Well ronaldo said there are some negative aspects in his life at inter that are not worth his time :rolleyes:....inter was at by his side all thru the two years when the ball boy had more exposure than he did, the full wages that moratti paid and the players and fans supported him thru out. we even had "ronaldo day" shite. :mad:
This is going to be an 'own goal' episode for ronaldo so to speak. he's doing no one any favours, and certainly not himself, and hopefull he'll be able to see it in this bucktoothed head where does his gratitude lie

[zooty32jm]

Inter must sell Ronaldo for $100million.Use the money to build a new Inter.$100million thats a lot of wonga.By the way "HI"from a miserable London

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


I say wait until after the season and then CONSIDER giving him a raise. Not a moment before.

That's the way I see it. Moratti would make a clown of himself is he starts paying :ronaldo: more money.
First I was sure this whole talk about Roni leaving was something the papers came up with to sell better, but when I read his arrogant comments...man was I pissed off...so ***king disappointed with his ungratitude.
I also agree with elcino: we must win something next year, or there will be many others that want to leave. Still, Inter doesn't have bad financial problems, and there are many fantastic future stars to be bought from smaller clubs :D. With or without Ronaldo Inter will be one of scudetto favourites.

[nismo]

it's now or never
with or without ronaldo
inter must win something this season.....anything.

i know i say this every season, but this season is an exception becuase i haven't seen a squad this strong since the last time we won the scudetto with Mattheus an co. this is inter best chance of getting silverware, and after near misses after near misses, something got to give, and hopefully not the depature of inter stars, but silverware this time round.

[Omar]

I presume you heard me on the radio? ;)

Welcome to the site. We'd like to hear more of your opinions. :)

Omar

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Omar
I presume you heard me on the radio? ;)

Welcome to the site. We'd like to hear more of your opinions. :)

Omar

On the radio??? Huh?

Omar is an Inter fan, aren't you Omar. I don't care if you're the admin, you should still post. Assuming you've got time of course.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by zooty32jm
Inter must sell Ronaldo for $100million.Use the money to build a new Inter.$100million thats a lot of wonga.By the way "HI"from a miserable London

Unfortunately, no one can afford to pay that much for him. We should demand all cash though. I'm thinking 40-50 million pounds. Especially if it's Real Madrid!

BTW, welcome to the WSB!

[Omar]

Of course I'm an Interista (check out http://www.inter-fans.com). ;)

I was on talksport radio in the UK for a bit last night talking about Ronaldo. :D

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Omar
Of course I'm an Interista (check out http://www.inter-fans.com). ;)

I was on talksport radio in the UK for a bit last night talking about Ronaldo. :D

I know the site, that's why I figured you were.

Cool that you were on the radio. I'd love to see your insight on Ronaldo and Inter on the boards though.

[Omar]

I know the site, that's why I figured you were.

Any specific suggestions for the site besides more updating? I've got to get around to updating the squad and transfers pages. I did the fixtures last night, though.

Cool that you were on the radio. I'd love to see your insight on Ronaldo and Inter on the boards though.

Definitely. I'll try to drop by often but Tariq and I are very busy with a massive upgrade soon to hit the boards. :)

Omar

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Omar


Any specific suggestions for the site besides more updating? I've got to get around to updating the squad and transfers pages. I did the fixtures last night, though.



Definitely. I'll try to drop by often but Tariq and I are very busy with a massive upgrade soon to hit the boards. :)

Omar

I'll check it out later tonight or tomorrow and let you know.

[Sebastian]

....well we can blame RONIE as much as we want....but the fact is that we practicly OWN the greatest player in the world....but the RESULTS are lacking.....:rolleyes:......last season we had a EXCUISE.....GRESKO afcorse.......but this season......we've signed CANNAVARO...COCO....wich makes INTER complete.....and if something goes wrong THIS year...than...INTER will face a nasty"SUNSET"........im betting on that.....:evil:......than it'll be obvious that INTER is really cursed......cos lets face it.....there' is no GREATER and more POWERFULL team on PAPER.....but we should proove that in a wery PRACTICAL way....cos you can read books and fire with you're GUN in the PRACTICE hall all year long....but when you'll face you're ENEMY....in the batlle field you'll be convinced that it takes something more than shooting in those damn puppets.......:fed-up:......by winning these two interesting TOURNAMENTS....TIM and BIRRA MORRETI we've shown our AMBITION....but something else conserns me.......the CL....i dont want to see my team lost between the SPACE and time.....between these two competitions.......:evil:......we should go STEP by STEP.....newer two steps at a time......:smoking:....

[BLAUGRANA]

Moratti: "You reckon that's what people should do Ronnie, do me proud?"

Ronaldo: "Of course Guvnor, it's what you deserve."

Moratti: "Get your tongue out of my arsehole Ronnie! Dogs do that. You're not a dog, are you Ronnie? However, you do have all the characteristics of a dog. All except loyalty."

[BLAUGRANA]

Funny isn't it. Brazil's currency is the Real and the country's most famous mercenary wants to go to Real Madrid.

[nismo]

Didin't ronaldo leave barcelona in similiar circumstances to this episode as well as, with contract/money/administration disputes??
a bit of de ja vu....:rolleyes:

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by nismo
Didin't ronaldo leave barcelona in similiar circumstances to this episode as well as, with contract/money/administration disputes??
a bit of de ja vu....:rolleyes:

It was before my time as a Barca fan. I never saw Barca play til that season he was there, but moreso after he left. I think it was more about going to Italy as it was considered the place to play at the time.

[nismo]

Yes, that was also a facotr
but i read on ronaldo's website under hid autobiography that a dispute with his contract over a payrise was the reason that forced him to ultimately join inter.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by nismo
Yes, that was also a facotr
but i read on ronaldo's website under hid autobiography that a dispute with his contract over a payrise was the reason that forced him to ultimately join inter.

I'm not surprised.

[Skualo]

Originally posted by nismo
Didin't ronaldo leave barcelona in similiar circumstances to this episode as well as, with contract/money/administration disputes??
a bit of de ja vu....:rolleyes:

nope.....in spain exist something called "clausula de resicion" or in english resition clausule that holds a player in a institution when ronaldo appears in the european scene in barcelona his slary was too little and the clausule is in some part made by the money a player earns so hes clause was very small....INTER pay it and we take ronaldo it was that easy barcelona didnt want him to go but the pay the price by not givving him a bigger salary...it was like figo...hes clausule was 50M something easy to pay for a team like real madrid they pay it and voila the traitor joins the stupids:D ....the surprise was zidane cus here in italy that doesnt exist the clubs has to talk diretly and negociate for a player...

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by §kualø


nope.....in spain exist something called "clausula de resicion" or in english resition clausule that holds a player in a institution when ronaldo appears in the european scene in barcelona his slary was too little and the clausule is in some part made by the money a player earns so hes clause was very small....INTER pay it and we take ronaldo it was that easy barcelona didnt want him to go but the pay the price by not givving him a bigger salary...it was like figo...hes clausule was 50M something easy to pay for a team like real madrid they pay it and voila the traitor joins the stupids:D ....the surprise was zidane cus here in italy that doesnt exist the clubs has to talk diretly and negociate for a player...

You mean buyout clause. It's weird how those are really only prevelent in Spain.

Don't even get me started on Figo!!! :fed-up:

[Sebastian]

BARCA menagment is full with imbecils....and now hey got the biggest.....while the TEAM plays he's writing POETRY....:silly:......they just released RIVALDO just like that....:confused:....but that's just VAN GAL atitude....i knew that all the time....he said....and they want to thrash REAL from the throne???
....damn rediculous.....:rolleyes:.....

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by elcino
BARCA menagment is full with imbecils....and now hey got the biggest.....while the TEAM plays he's writing POETRY....:silly:......they just released RIVALDO just like that....:confused:....but that's just VAN GAL atitude....i knew that all the time....he said....and they want to thrash REAL from the throne???
....damn rediculous.....:rolleyes:.....

I'll answer this "rediculous" post by passing on some of the points I made on the Barca board. Barca's imbecils had a squad that did better than Inter last year, and that was with Rivaldo injured most of the season. That's until like his compatriot Ronaldo he miraculously recovered just before the WC. Coincidence? Right. And elcino, you should be careful using the term imbecile. What's that saying, "People who live in glass houses." BTW, when someone like yourself says one thing about the Ronaldo saga one day and then something completely different the next, he loses credibility.
*****My apologies for talking Barca here, but I was provoked.

MY POST FROM BARCA BOARDS: Be wary of what you read or hear about the move. It comes down almost solely to finances and partially to the # of non-EU players Barca can have. In terms of finances, the club will save some $6 million plus as that would have been his salary this coming season. It was quite clear to me that Rivaldo did not intend to extend his stay at Barca and so the club had to act. He wouldn't even meet with Lazio's advisors and IMO was untransferrable. In terms of non-EU players, this will mean that club will not have send out any player on loan. Also, Riquelme can jump into the Barca lineup right away and get accustomed to the Spanish game and life in Spain in general.

ARTICLE This from soccernet:

Wednesday, July 24, 2002
Louis: Rivaldo lacked commitment

MADRID, July 24 (Reuters) - Barcelona coach Louis van Gaal has singled out a lack of commitment as the reason behind the Catalan club's decision to release Rivaldo from his contract.
The Dutch coach denied that he had anything personal against the 30-year-old Brazilian World Cup winner, but said that a request from the player to extend his holidays had triggered the decision to annul his contract a year before it was due to expire.

'I liked Rivaldo when he was committed and motivated,' said van Gaal speaking from the club's pre-season training base in Switzerland on Wednesday.

'But after he asked for two more weeks holiday this weekend knowing full well that we have to play a Champions League qualifier then he showed that he did not have the necessary commitment to Barcelona.

'Winning the World Cup was a great achievement for Rivaldo, but he has to remember that it was the club that was paying him and the club must come first,' he said.

Van Gaal, who was first in charge at the Nou Camp between 1997-2000, said that he had detected a change in attitude from the player after he was given the World and European Player of the Year awards in 1999.

'I liked Rivaldo before he was chosen as the world's best player but since then he has not performed as well,' he said.

'I wanted that Rivaldo because he was the best, but from that time on he didn't deal with either his personal or sporting situation in the right manner.'

Van Gaal had a high profile run-in with Rivaldo in December 1999 -- the same month in which he was given the two prestigious awards -- when the Brazilian demanded to play in the centre of the pitch rather than out on the left wing.


IRREVOCABLE DAMAGE

The Dutchman won that test of strength and Rivaldo was forced to apologise for his comments after sitting out two games on the sidelines, but relations between the two suffered irrevocable damage.

Van Gaal has now claimed that Rivaldo appeared to show more determination and commitment when he played for Brazil rather than Barcelona.

'His level dropped more for Barca than for Brazil,' he said. 'When you saw Rivaldo play for Brazil you saw an enthusiastic player, who wanted to work for his team. That is the difference.'

Rivaldo, who is negotiating a possible move to Italian side AC Milan, said he would give his version of his departure in the near future.

'I want to say to all those people who follow me that I will soon be joining a new team in Europe,' he said on his personal website on Wednesday.

'Perhaps within the next week I will be at the disposition of the coach of a new team and I will then give a more detailed press conference.'


MY POST I think LVG makes some very good points. What's with the request for two more weeks off??? Also, he's right about Rivaldo's fitness level and determination when he played for Barca versus that of when he play for Brazil.


ARTICLE From Barca's official website:

Van Gaal: "the club is more important than any one player"

Wednesday 24 July 2002 16:30 (BCN)




Louis Van Gaal held his first press conference of the team’s summer training camp in Switzerland this lunchtime, and naturally enough he was questioned about Rivaldo’s leaving the club: "this was a decision of the club as a whole, in which I, as manager, naturally contributed. The club and the team are more important than any one player.”

Van Gaal went on to explain: “this club has a structure for decision making and the President and the board are at the top. Below the board is the director general Javier Pérez Farguell and the footballing director, which is me. There’s also the technical staff, the players, the other employees of the club, our fans and the general public. All of us influence to a greater or lesser extent the decisions taken by the club. I admit that I have played a large part in this decision, but so has Mr Gaspart, who always has the last word.”




Van Gaal was also clear about his relationship with the Brazilian star: “I’ve read that we don’t get on, but I want to makeit clear that I admired the Rivaldo who existed before he was voted the World’s best player. From that moment, however, I don’t think he’s known how to manage his new position and fame, either as a player or as a person. His play has dropped off since then with other managers in charge, not just with me – you only have to look at the statistics. I admire Rivaldo when he’s committed to his club and excited about Barca, but a player who comes along and asks for a fortnight’s extra holiday, knowing we’ve got what important games the Champions League qualifiers are for this club, is not committed to the club and I can’t allow that.”

[Sebastian]

....ok....now dont get too excited....i have sertain symphaties for BARCA....but thye fact is......they're best players are running away from the team........now that comparation INTER-BARCA....is irrelevant....im talking about the SPANISH throne......it seems that BARCA is loosing it's shine....AJAX thrashed them....that should count for something....

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by elcino
....ok....now dont get too excited....i have sertain symphaties for BARCA....but thye fact is......they're best players are running away from the team........now that comparation INTER-BARCA....is irrelevant....im talking about the SPANISH throne......it seems that BARCA is loosing it's shine....AJAX thrashed them....that should count for something....

Rivaldo didn't run away, he was sent packing. I won't even go into the Figo story. He was all about money and nothing else. Barca called his bluff and he was sent packing too. Guardiola left very amicably to try his hand at another league as he spent his entire career previously at Barca. Anyone else running away??? No.

Ajax thrashed Barca??? 4-3 isn't a thrashing. Besides, it's preseason and Ajax beat Man Utd as well. They haven't lost all preseason long, but then it's preseason.

As far as the Spanish throne goes, why do you think they brought LVG back??? The last time they won it was when he was in charge, and that happened twice in three years.

[Skualo]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


You mean buyout clause. It's weird how those are really only prevelent in Spain.

Don't even get me started on Figo!!! :fed-up:

yes thats what i mean.....figo???LOL:D

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by §kualø


yes thats what i mean.....figo???LOL:D

Sorry Skualo. Figo is his nickname. His real name is greedy, dishonest, cheating thug. Now you must know who I mean. :D

[nismo]

Originally posted by elcino
....ok....now dont get too excited....i have sertain symphaties for BARCA....but thye fact is......they're best players are running away from the team........now that comparation INTER-BARCA....is irrelevant....im talking about the SPANISH throne......it seems that BARCA is loosing it's shine....AJAX thrashed them....that should count for something....
we lost to helsinborg and alaves too elcino :D
but it's just preseason games, i wouldn't take too much out of it, apart from getting to know the new faces.

[nismo]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Sorry Skualo. Figo is his nickname. His real name is greedy, dishonest, cheating thug. Now you must know who I mean. :D
How is the value of a player detemined in spain then??
if in italy the chairman get together to haggle and negotiate a price, and in spain the club just have to pay the buy-out clause, what are the determinants that influence price-tag?? because it's sounds pretty ambigious these buy-out clauses. no disrespect to joaquin, but i recetnly read he's valued around 50 million eruos, when he only just had one season in la liga :confused:

[ronie]

joaquin for 50 million.........holyshit:eek:

[Elvis Pressley]

Ronaldo’s future at Inter looks increasingly uncertain as he refused to pose for an official team picture this morning.


Photographers for the Panini sticker album were at the training ground in order to take portraits of all the players.


However, Il Fenomeno refused to have his picture taken with the Nerazzurri shirt. Some claim it was an act of ‘revenge’ against the sticker company for not including his photo during his long period of injury.


It is the latest sign that relations between Ronaldo and the club remain frosty, as since his return to Milan the player has refused to train alongside his teammates, preferring to work alone with physiotherapist Nilton Petrone.


Reports that the £60m move to Real Madrid is still on the cards emerged from Spanish newspapers ‘Marca’ and ‘As’.


His spokesman Rodrigo Paiva also hinted, “We’ll see what happens in the next few days. Anything can happen in football and the problems have still not been solved.”


There are suggestions that the presence in Milan of Claude Makelele’s agent was not for talks with the Rossoneri, but rather with the black and blue side of the San Siro.


The Real Madrid midfielder would be one of the players – along with Solari – who would move to Inter in exchange for Ronaldo.


The Spanish press maintains that a meeting between Real President Florentino Perez and Inter patron Massimo Moratti will take place in Formentera over the weekend.


Nerazzurri director Gabriele Oriali denied the reports. “With Fabio Cannavaro’s arrival we have finished our market transactions. These stories are all invented and after what happened last week Ronaldo will stay with Inter.”


When asked about Makelele’s links with the club Oriali added, “That would have made sense if we had not already signed Mathias Almeyda for that position.”



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I agree with him, I wouldnt pose for pictures either, if they left me out when I was injured, I'd say phuck em too, Ronaldo has kinda alienated me a bit with his attitude towards my club lately, but im with him on this one, what about you lot?

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by Elvis Pressley

I agree with him, I wouldnt pose for pictures either, if they left me out when I was injured, I'd say phuck em too, Ronaldo has kinda alienated me a bit with his attitude towards my club lately, but im with him on this one, what about you lot?

Refusing to be in those pictures is his own business, and I don't care about that...but I'm worried about what was said about training: that he refuses to train with rest of the team...is this true? Or does he just have a different training programme?

[Elvis Pressley]

Originally posted by joonas78


Refusing to be in those pictures is his own business, and I don't care about that...but I'm worried about what was said about training: that he refuses to train with rest of the team...is this true? Or does he just have a different training programme?

about refusing to train with the team is a lot of bullsh!t, unless those websites dont consider Emre and Okan part of the Inter team????

remember that Ronaldo, Emre & Okan were all involved until the end of the World Cup, and only returned to Inter last week. obviously all three are following a different training program from the rest of the squad, look at the pictures on the official site, it clearly shows Ronaldo, Emre, Okan and a few others (youngsters I think) training together with the staff. and he most definetly doesnt look like someone who doesnt want anything to do with the club or his teammates, he still has that goofy ass grin.

[ilcapitano]

Well, he's always grinning...which doesn't make me trust him anymore, not after this latest soap opera. But it's good that the training rumour was false.

[Skualo]

Originally posted by ronie
joaquin for 50 million.........holyshit:eek:
thats not the real price thats what clubs says to make others one forget about the player and dont bother for him....actually juaquin should be in 25 millions..for me thats too much:rolleyes:

[Honey]

hey Ronaldo's trainin' with the squad. U can see the pics in the official site of Inter.





Ya know wut? The heavy rain 2day at pinetina may be means luck & victory to Nerazzurri. (Here in my country ppl believe that when u start doin; smt on rain it means luck & victory!)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by nismo

How is the value of a player detemined in spain then??
if in italy the chairman get together to haggle and negotiate a price, and in spain the club just have to pay the buy-out clause, what are the determinants that influence price-tag?? because it's sounds pretty ambigious these buy-out clauses. no disrespect to joaquin, but i recetnly read he's valued around 50 million eruos, when he only just had one season in la liga :confused:

I think that would be the clause if they redid his contract, which I still don't think has been done. It sounded as though it was done, but I still think it's not yet been finalised. I don't know if there's a formula they use, I doubt it. I think they just come up with a sum. Raul's is astronomical if I'm not mistaken. Twice that of Joaquin's I think.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Elvis Pressley

I agree with him, I wouldnt pose for pictures either, if they left me out when I was injured, I'd say phuck em too, Ronaldo has kinda alienated me a bit with his attitude towards my club lately, but im with him on this one, what about you lot?

Well I read that he didn't do the photo shoot cause he wasn't told about it in advance. I don't know why that would matter. What, did he have to do his hair? Did he forget the false teeth he wears in pictures?? Either way, he should have posed and is just alienating himself more. Besides, if Inter has a contract with Panini, he may have to if it says he does in his personal contract with Inter.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Honey
hey Ronaldo's trainin' with the squad. U can see the pics in the official site of Inter.





Ya know wut? The heavy rain 2day at pinetina may be means luck & victory to Nerazzurri. (Here in my country ppl believe that when u start doin; smt on rain it means luck & victory!)

He's probably training seperately because he joined the squad later than everyone else. Of course, we must all realize that Brazilian NT players can come and go as they please in regards to their clubs. We've all seen it before with Ronaldo. I find it funny that Michael Ballack is playing in Bayern's preseason matches as he was at the WC just as long as Ronaldo. Oh wait, my mistake. Ronaldo was busy planning his betrayal of Inter, Moratti and all the fans. What was I thinking, he should be given as much time as he wants.

[BLAUGRANA]

The latest i've read on the Il Mercenario situation is that Moratti is willing to sell him to Real for 40-50 million pounds. I also read that Di Vaio and Chiesa were considered replacement targets. I don't put to much into this though. Besides, Montella is the most logical replacement for him.

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

Di Vaio and Chiesa ... BOOOOOOOOO .... we can do much better than those ... but Di vaio is quite fine .. :)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by RoNaLdO_FaNaTiC
Di Vaio and Chiesa ... BOOOOOOOOO .... we can do much better than those ... but Di vaio is quite fine .. :)

Of course we can do much better. Like I said, Montella.

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

apparently ... chiesa will be on his way on if ronaldo goes ... he'd be welcomed with open arms ... but still ... we can do better .... montella for instance like you sggested AZULGRANA .... i'd prefer Ronaldinho ... we NEED brazilians in the team .... but it always seems that everything you suggest AZULGRANA becomes true ... like the deal with Fabio :D ;)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by RoNaLdO_FaNaTiC
apparently ... chiesa will be on his way on if ronaldo goes ... he'd be welcomed with open arms ... but still ... we can do better .... montella for instance like you sggested AZULGRANA .... i'd prefer Ronaldinho ... we NEED brazilians in the team .... but it always seems that everything you suggest AZULGRANA becomes true ... like the deal with Fabio :D ;)

I wouldn't say always, but it often does happen. I suggested United should go for Rio Ferdinand ages ago and now he's with em.

I don't think we NEED brazilians in the lineup. In fact, I'd prefer we didn't have any. Their NT duties always get in the way. They're always returning from NT duties late. Furthermore, they're always jetting home when they get injured or when the get "homesick". I don't want Ronaldinho anyway. For the price he'd demand, he isn't proven enough yet.

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

well perhaps not NEED ... but brazilians can produce the magic .. ecpecially the likes of Ronaldinho .... and about the thing with brazilians going to home .. well it's true , but if you have them giving their best to your team then it doesn't matter

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by RoNaLdO_FaNaTiC
well perhaps not NEED ... but brazilians can produce the magic .. ecpecially the likes of Ronaldinho .... and about the thing with brazilians going to home .. well it's true , but if you have them giving their best to your team then it doesn't matter

It's not about magic though, it's about trophies. If you want magic, watch David Copperfield. I'd rather have no magic and a boatload of Scudetto's than some magic and no Scudetto.

[nismo]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
The latest i've read on the Il Mercenario situation is that Moratti is willing to sell him to Real for 40-50 million pounds. I also read that Di Vaio and Chiesa were considered replacement targets. I don't put to much into this though. Besides, Montella is the most logical replacement for him.
most logical in terms of availiabilty or suitability to partner with vieri.?? whichever you meant, you're right both ways.
he's not popular with capello so the board wouldn't have much objection in his transfer, and bobo and lil'plane go together like fries and burgers.
even though i'm more of a recoba fan, i'm dying for scudetto success, so even if montella only has 4 years at the top left, i'm all for it for monetlla to replace ronie.

[nismo]

Originally posted by RoNaLdO_FaNaTiC
apparently ... chiesa will be on his way on if ronaldo goes ... he'd be welcomed with open arms ... but still ... we can do better .... montella for instance like you sggested AZULGRANA .... i'd prefer Ronaldinho ... we NEED brazilians in the team .... but it always seems that everything you suggest AZULGRANA becomes true ... like the deal with Fabio :D ;)
i don't think we need brazilians, or are you saying we need players with creativity and genius like the brazilians display??
Sorry ronaldofanatic, but i'm gonna go for montella over ronalidninho, as we already have player who's like gaucho, in recoba. and the money could be saved until the financial crisis eases up.

[Skualo]

nismo i see recoba more likely to montella than to ronaldinho in a comparation...both left leg and both strikers

[ronie]

montella over gaucho....no way

[Musiq]

Naaah! Chiesa won't do. He's not gonna be very fit after that knee injury last season. Last thing we need is another player who wastes time and money like Ronaldo.

If Ronaldo goes, someone real classy will have to come. How about Michael Owen? If Real do pay about £50m for Ronaldo, Moratti can use at least £45m of it on Owen.

[Musiq]

The prob with Montella is that he's got an ego the size of a mountain :evil: :D ! So if Inter do try to get him, there'll be quite a few problems for Cuper and the rest of the players!

[ronie]

if cuper uses a 3-4-1-2 then there will be no problem but if cuper uses 4-4-2 then there'll be a problem cos el chino and bobo will be the 1st choice strickers and montella will just complain that he's just getting subed all the time:D

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

Ronaldo’s good friend Nilson Locatelli claims that there is a conspiracy within the Inter camp to damage the Brazilian's career.


“Ronaldo is held to the club by a contract, but his head is already at Real Madrid.”


Locatelli, a former player who currently lives in Switzerland, revealed the ‘insider scoop’ to local magazine ‘Dimanche’.


“Ronaldo has already turned a new leaf and left Inter behind,” assured his compatriot. “There are too many problems and unclear issues that prevent his relationship with the Nerazzurri from continuing.”


Locatelli, said to be a good friend of Il Fenomeno, joined the list of collaborators who blame Hector Cuper for this crisis.


“First of all, Cuper has to go. Ronnie has suffered too much during these last few years to spend his time in a this atmosphere.”


“Only yesterday Ronaldo told me, ‘I have a great deal left to give, but not to Inter. I want to leave,’” assured Locatelli.


The former player even went so far as to point the finger at a conspiracy within the Inter camp.


“Cuper has never put his faith in Ronaldo and always put obstacles in the way to his recovery. This is why Ronnie had to do his physiotherapy work in Brazil, otherwise he would never have been able to play the World Cup.”


“There is an anti-Ronaldo conspiracy on behalf of all Inter’s Argentinean staff,” claimed Locatelli. “The lost Scudetto is entirely Cuper’s fault. Ronaldo knows this and he is not a loser.”


Meanwhile, Cuper himself made comments to Spanish newspaper ‘As’ that hint at further problems within the San Siro side.


“I have never had a problem with Ronaldo,” explained the Coach. “If anything you should ask him if he had an issue with me.”


“If Ronnie is unhappy at Inter then he should leave,” added Cuper. “That goes for everyone who feels they are not satisfied.”


There are increasing reports that Ronaldo has become such a disruptive force that President Massimo Moratti is willing to slash his £60m price-tag.





OOOOUUUUCCCCHHH !!!

[Sebastian]

.....do you really believe in this CRAP????
.....im really surprised with this kind of rediculous idiotism.....:fed-up:....im tellin you man....this is outrageous.....what conspiracy what bull shit....:mad2:.......