Mexico Sucks!!!!

[chaymin]

I dont hate mexico, i just wanna knock some sense into these mexicans, and u talkin about argentinans, i feel the same way about mexicans, they will say their toothpaste affected the game , thats why they keep makin whole bunch of excuses for losing their games to boca, sao paulo, etc.....u guys need to open ur eyes

excuses, excuses, the ref did this the ref did that, comnebol conspiracy , blah blah blah :shocked: is just being babyish :boo:


I can't believe what you're saying! Especially knowing how dirty some teams are from Argentina. They kick, push, and spit like its okay. The CONMEBOL refs just let it all go by...

You do have a grudge against Mexico and you're always trying to put them down. Have you seen what they have done in Fifa tournaments? There's a reason why media from different countries praised them for their job during the Confederations Cup. :)

[ricoo9]

I can't believe what you're saying! Especially knowing how dirty some teams are from Argentina. They kick, push, and spit like its okay. The CONMEBOL refs just let it all go by...

You do have a grudge against Mexico and you're always trying to put them down. Have you seen what they have done in Fifa tournaments? There's a reason why media from different countries praised them for their job during the Confederations Cup. :)

So the refs let all the spitting and pushin and kickin go on, thats why the bocas coach got fired and the alot of players got suspended for the chivas incident? I bet u will say that Conmebol told the refs to call off the 3 goals from liverpool to sao paulo as well, man conmebol must have alot of power to influence fifa refs, I guess they dont like mexicans and they dont like english neither :violin:

[chaymin]

So the refs let all the spitting and pushin and kickin go on, thats why the bocas coach got fired and the alot of players got suspended for the chivas incident? I bet u will say that Conmebol told the refs to call off the 3 goals from liverpool to sao paulo as well, man conmebol must have alot of power to influence fifa refs, I guess they dont like mexicans and they dont like english neither :violin:

Why don't you acknowledge the good Mexico has done? All you do is complain and put down Mexican soccer. It's old and not funny. Just shows you're a bitter person and nothing else.

[ricoo9]

Why don't you acknowledge the good Mexico has done? All you do is complain and put down Mexican soccer. It's old and not funny. Just shows you're a bitter person and nothing else.

mmm :worried: i'm thinking....what good have they done? anyhoo, i aint talkin about mexico anymore unless someone debates me again

[PunkguyEG]

I think it is true that argentinians talk a little bit too much sometimes. However, unlike Mexico, I think they actually make sense when they talk. The history, quality of the players, and argentian soccer in general, cannot be compared to mexico's.

[ricoo9]

I think it is true that argentinians talk a little bit too much sometimes. However, unlike Mexico, I think they actually make sense when they talk. The history, quality of the players, and argentian soccer in general, cannot be compared to mexico's.

true

[Carioca]

???????

[Carioca]

FU.K u guys still talking shit wow how low. Think about if Brazileros would spend their days posting hateful shit about other teams in the internet......Do u know how much shit we could write???????, about Argentina and the history of their players man thats history that was 1986 where is Argentina now? you have to live to the PRESENT and the FUTURE. So dam stop the hate if Peru was worth shit man you would have all the right to discuss the performance of other nations judging their success

GROW UP!!! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES

FORZA PALMEIRAS

[ricoo9]

FU.K u guys still talking shit wow how low. Think about if Brazileros would spend their days posting hateful shit about other teams in the internet......Do u know how much shit we could write???????, about Argentina and the history of their players man thats history that was 1986 where is Argentina now? you have to live to the PRESENT and the FUTURE. So dam stop the hate if Peru was worth shit man you would have all the right to discuss the performance of other nations judging their success

GROW UP!!! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES

FORZA PALMEIRAS


OK UNAM if u say so :lol:

[ricoo9]

FU.K u guys still talking shit wow how low. Think about if Brazileros would spend their days posting hateful shit about other teams in the internet......Do u know how much shit we could write???????, about Argentina and the history of their players man thats history that was 1986 where is Argentina now? you have to live to the PRESENT and the FUTURE. So dam stop the hate if Peru was worth shit man you would have all the right to discuss the performance of other nations judging their success

GROW UP!!! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES

FORZA PALMEIRAS


Ur the first brazilian i met that defends mexicans so much... mmmm makes me think... r u really brazilian?? :faint2: OK unam w/e u say.... :lol:

This is a post from one of ur brazilian brothers so u cant say im the only one sayin that shit, brazilians r sayin it too :lol:


loser...u must mean FIFA are the losers who gave wrong information..the same losers who got Mexico in the top 10 when there are better teams far up, so why dont U go screw yourself you little b*tch, u Mexicans think the whole world revolves around u and thats the reason almost nobody in latin america likes u, sure theres alot of cool Mexicans no doubt about it but most of u talk a little bit too much shyt for ur own goods..so u guys need to shut da hell up cause u aint better then nobody

[Carioca]

Wharever man
You really love to express yourself like a little girl, and I'm not UNAM that would be something that a like punk like u would do, Dog I never said that I liked Mexico I would react the same if u were talking about any other country live to the present man, if a nation is in the WC is because they really wanted to be there, the level doesn't matter its just about trying. ITS A LOT BETTER TO BE IN THE WC AND LOSE PLAYING THAN TO BE AT HOME WATCHING THE FUN ON TV WISHING TO BE THERE :annoyed: RICOo No one likes people like you that think they have knoledge of the game and love to draw attention by talking junk when they don't. So live the cheat chat to FIFA suckers

RICOO LET THE WORLD SPIN AROUND AND IF YOU BELIEVE ON SOMETHING(MEXICO SUCKS) ITS OK. JUST KEEP IT TO YOURSELF DON'T TRY TO ACT LIKE A PREACHER TRYING TO PERSUADE EVERYBODY
PEACE.
BRAZI BRAZIL BRAZIL !!!!
WERE'E GOING FOR THE 6th

SOCIEDADE ESPORTIVA PALMEIRAS
:drum: :drum: :drum: :drum: :drum: :drum:
Quando surge o alviverde imponente
No gramado em que a luta o aguarda
Sabe bem o que vem pela frente
Que a dureza do prélio não tarda

E o Palmeiras no ardor da partida
Transformando a lealdade em padrão
Sabe sempre levar de vencida
E mostrar que de fato é campeão

Defesa que ninguém passa
Linha atacante de raça
Torcida que canta e vibra

Defesa que ninguém passa
Linha atacante de raça
Torcida que canta e vibra

Por nosso alviverde inteiro
Que sabe ser brasileiro
Ostentando a sua fibra

:drum: :drum: :drum: :drum: :drum:

[Armand]

People still hating on Mexico. Some people are just sad here even dcunited gave it up and he had more room to talk. WTF has peru done I laugh each I time I hear that name Peru they are worse than the U.S. Mexico won its group the last time there is no reason to doubt they won't win it again. I don't know why you hate mexico so much but your constant raving herre on this board has given me a bad picture of peru and its people so f**k peru and especially fu*k you to biatch.

[chaymin]

Ur the first brazilian i met that defends mexicans so much... mmmm makes me think... r u really brazilian?? :faint2: OK unam w/e u say.... :lol:

This is a post from one of ur brazilian brothers so u cant say im the only one sayin that shit, brazilians r sayin it too :lol:


Jealous much? You're so heated and jealous because Mexico made it to the WC and Peru didn't. :lol:

[PunkguyEG]

Jealous much? You're so heated and jealous because Mexico made it to the WC and Peru didn't. :lol:

YOu guys definately don't know anything about soccer history. Thats why mexico sux so bad. Keep thinking too highly about your team. History will eventually reapeat and you'll end up looking like the same piece of shit you have always been. It's ok if you want to say peru sucks, but i don't think they suck as much as Mexico. If im not mistaken, no team has a worse soccer history in WCs than mexico. You guys are so happy to go to the WC, but it is not worth anything when you win nothing. Especially if you qualify beating teamas like Cuba and Dominica.

[PunkguyEG]

I'm not Peruvian by the way. I just try to be realistic here. All you Mexicans can brag about is your league. It is one of the best ones in the americas because you have the resources to buy good players from south america. You can’t deny it. However, your national team is not at the level you guys insist to put them. When you guys win something, then you can talk all you want. :red-card:

[mEXICAN4LIFE22]

U guys need to take a chill pill, Stop talkin about Mexico they will be 1st in group ull see

[ricoo9]

fu*K U CARIOCA, U MEXICAN WANNA BE.... fu*K ARMAND u can suck on my balls and fu*k CHAYMAN.......... WHEN THE fu*K DID I start TALKin ABOUT PERU??? THE SUBJECT HERE IS MEXICO SUCKS U FUKIN KIDDIN ME?? I CAN SAY W/e THE fu*K I WANT IF I FEEL LIKE IT, WHAT HAPPENED CARIOCA?? U FINALLY LEARNED HOW TO TALK ENGLISH... :p its funny to me u made up a name on this forum just so u can talk shit to me Unam I am half peruvian btw, IM also half ITalian, so if that was what suppposedly pissed u off I CAN STILL TALK W/E i want!! AND ITALY WILL KICK BRAZILS ASS on the WC AND ABOUT MEXICO goin to the WC? TELL ME who did they beat?? u make me wanna laugh, how stupid r u ppl, I got ITaly that is a way better team than Peru and MExico :boo: :smoking: And peru btw played brazil,argentina etc.. who did mexico play....go learn something about fifa and the sport and then come talk to me, u IDIOTS :rolleyes:

[RojINeGrO5051]

u stupid retarded clown u have finally snaped.............on the net :lol:

[ricoo9]

u stupid retarded clown u have finally snaped.............on the net :lol:

nope, u guys r losers mexico sux

[mawin312]

fu*K U CARIOCA, U MEXICAN WANNA BE.... fu*K ARMAND u can suck on my balls and fu*k CHAYMAN.......... WHEN THE fu*K DID I start TALKin ABOUT PERU??? THE SUBJECT HERE IS MEXICO SUCKS U FUKIN KIDDIN ME?? I CAN SAY W/e THE fu*K I WANT IF I FEEL LIKE IT, WHAT HAPPENED CARIOCA?? U FINALLY LEARNED HOW TO TALK ENGLISH... :p its funny to me u made up a name on this forum just so u can talk shit to me Unam I am half peruvian btw, IM also half ITalian, so if that was what suppposedly pissed u off I CAN STILL TALK W/E i want!! AND ITALY WILL KICK BRAZILS ASS on the WC AND ABOUT MEXICO goin to the WC? TELL ME who did they beat?? u make me wanna laugh, how stupid r u ppl, I got ITaly that is a way better team than Peru and MExico :boo: :smoking: And peru btw played brazil,argentina etc.. who did mexico play....go learn something about fifa and the sport and then come talk to me, u IDIOTS :rolleyes:

Haha rico snapped :red-card: :boo: :lol:

[ricoo9]

Haha rico snapped :red-card: :boo: :lol:
:rolleyes:

[Carioca]

LOL a MACHUPICHU MIXED WITH AN ITALIAN :faint2: interesting wow u just showed everybody how imature u are man remember? History is history live to the present (ITALY IS NO LONGER A GIANT SINCE THE EARLY 90's) Tell me just one achivement from Italy in the past 5 years???? go ahead man start searching....HHMMMMMMMM any luck man? What world are u living in man?????? :lol: What world are u living in man?????? :lol: Look I'm going to educate you, the teams u have to look for (AND QUIT ACTING LIKE A LITTLE BIATCH) are Germany, Netherlands, France and Chec Republic just watch.

PALMEIRAS!!!!!!!!!!! TILL I DIE

[Armand]

Heheheheh LOL o.k I just won a 120 dollar bet btw let me explain I bet my co-worker andres he is from Peru 120 dollars that Mr. Rico would snap after I posted my post the one were I say f**k peru. He said the peruvian people were very cool and didn't get angry like us mexicans LOL. Anyway I now have 120 extra dollars thanx Rico. I wonder what I should get??? Anyway thanx Rico I just knew you were about to explode. I don't really hate you and much less the peruvian people as my girlfriend is from Peru and she is fu**ing hot very hot thanx peru for such a hot girl. Anyway disregard my post where I use the F-word as I did not really mean it.AS for the forum Carioca is it really you UNAM because it's very strange. Keep cool Rico its just fun and games in here. Sorry(but i wanted that 120)

[ricoo9]

Heheheheh LOL o.k I just won a 120 dollar bet btw let me explain I bet my co-worker andres he is from Peru 120 dollars that Mr. Rico would snap after I posted my post the one were I say f**k peru. He said the peruvian people were very cool and didn't get angry like us mexicans LOL. Anyway I now have 120 extra dollars thanx Rico. I wonder what I should get??? Anyway thanx Rico I just knew you were about to explode. I don't really hate you and much less the peruvian people as my girlfriend is from Peru and she is fu**ing hot very hot thanx peru for such a hot girl. Anyway disregard my post where I use the F-word as I did not really mean it.AS for the forum Carioca is it really you UNAM because it's very strange. Keep cool Rico its just fun and games in here. Sorry(but i wanted that 120)

ur a loser.... IF u say F me Im gonna SAy F U makes sense no or am i suppose to praise u for insulting me? :rolleyes:

[ricoo9]

LOL a MACHUPICHU MIXED WITH AN ITALIAN :faint2: interesting wow u just showed everybody how imature u are man remember? History is history live to the present (ITALY IS NO LONGER A GIANT SINCE THE EARLY 90's) Tell me just one achivement from Italy in the past 5 years???? go ahead man start searching....HHMMMMMMMM any luck man? What world are u living in man?????? :lol: What world are u living in man?????? :lol: Look I'm going to educate you, the teams u have to look for (AND QUIT ACTING LIKE A LITTLE BIATCH) are Germany, Netherlands, France and Chec Republic just watch.

PALMEIRAS!!!!!!!!!!! TILL I DIE

ur a freakin idiot, Italy doesnt have a good team?? then why do we have the best league in the world? We have the best defenders in the world, better than brazils,Why did u beat us in penalties for the WC, remember if Bagio hadnt missed that penalty Italy would of been the first "penta" u stupid moron, get a life UNAM, u wish Mexico had as good a team as Italy does.. :lol: And btw, I'm the rascist one? when u mention machupichu mixed with italian what is that saying? and what would u be if u really r brazilian... an Africo mixed with portuguese :p if u wanna be stereotypical :lol: u freakin mexican wannabe :faint2:

[mawin312]

ur a freakin idiot, Italy doesnt have a good team?? then why do we have the best league in the world? ur stupid, get a life UNAM, u wish Mexico had as good a team as Italy does.. :lol:

La liga and Premier League are the best leagues in the world, then Italy

[ricoo9]

La liga and Premier League are the best leagues in the world, then Italy

Thats ur opinion, not a fact :smoking:

[mawin312]

Thats ur opinion, not a fact :smoking:

Its also your opinion that Italy has the best league in the world. :smoking:

[Carioca]

Ok rico don't cry man we are just playing :lol: Your opinion is that Italy have the best soccer league??? ok thats ur opinion but that doesn't mean that the national team is good because of it. If u talk about leagues than tell me whats up with Spain? What about England?? cause dam I hadn't seen them since USA 94. Also all the international players make the league look atractive. KAKA its a good example of who makes the Italian league so powerful but unfortunately KAKA can't represent the Italians in international affairs so dude please live to the present. OHH by the way I'm not afro I wish I would have some bloodline on me but I don't , my great granfather was German and my Great Grandma was from Portugal.

[ricoo9]

Ok rico don't cry man we are just playing :lol: Your opinion is that Italy have the best soccer league??? ok thats ur opinion but that doesn't mean that the national team is good because of it. If u talk about leagues than tell me whats up with Spain? What about England?? cause dam I hadn't seen them since USA 94. Also all the international players make the league look atractive. KAKA its a good example of who makes the Italian league so powerful but unfortunately KAKA can't represent the Italians in international affairs so dude please live to the present. OHH by the way I'm not afro I wish I would have some bloodline on me but I don't , my great granfather was German and my Great Grandma was from Portugal.

I saw what u wrote in the other mexican thread, seems to me u know more about mexican clubs than even mexicans know :lol: now i know for sure ur not brazilian.......ok Unam w/e u say :rolleyes:

[Ronni]

ur a freakin idiot, Italy doesnt have a good team?? then why do we have the best league in the world?
Italy has a good team and one of the best leagues in the world (let's not try to consider this an undiscutable issue). But these two facts have no strong implications on each other.


We have the best defenders in the world, better than brazils,

Traditionally it's true.


Why did u beat us in penalties for the WC, remember if Bagio hadnt missed that penalty Italy would of been the first "penta" u stupid moron,
No!
Baggio didn't shoot the last penalty. Brazil still had another kick. If Baggio hadn't missed, Brazil would still have a chance of scoring on their trial.
Actually before Baggio missed, Italy's chances were already very low - he had to score, and the next brazilian had to miss, in order to pursue the penalty decision.
Baggion's missed kick was the 3rd missed italian penalty. Brazil had missed only one.

Another error is that '94 wasn't Brazil's "penta", but "tetra". If Italy had won that decision, they would have won their 4th title, and Brazil only 3. Nobody knows which effects this had had on the following two WCs. The fact is that Brazil reached both finals, winning one of them, and Italy couldn't reach the semis once.

Your affirmation that Italy would be "penta" before Brazil is too much speculative, based on a weak "if" and an even weaker future prevision.

Try to be less aggressive on your comments, because anyone tends to spread stupidities on such a situation.

get a life UNAM, u wish Mexico had as good a team as Italy does.. :lol: And btw, I'm the rascist one? when u mention machupichu mixed with italian what is that saying? and what would u be if u really r brazilian... an Africo mixed with portuguese :p if u wanna be stereotypical :lol: u freakin mexican wannabe :faint2:
I'd ask you to refrain from making any racist comment.
As you know from football rules, "responding" to an offense deserves a :red-card:

[Ronni]

I saw what u wrote in the other mexican thread, seems to me u know more about mexican clubs than even mexicans know :lol: now i know for sure ur not brazilian.......ok Unam w/e u say :rolleyes:
to say someone is entering the forum under a second name is a very hard accusation. If your supposition isn't true, it's not fair at all not to let the guy express what he thinks, connecting him to someone else who doesn't have anything to do with him.

I must say it's indeed sort of weird someone calling himself "carioca" and still supporting Palmeiras ... but why not ... sometimes weird things can happen too.

[ricoo9]

I must say it's indeed sort of weird someone calling himself "carioca" and still supporting Palmeiras ... but why not ... sometimes weird things can happen too.

LOL well isnt it Obvious!!!!!! :lol: :faint2:

[ricoo9]

I'd ask you to refrain from making any racist comment.
As you know from football rules, "responding" to an offense deserves a :red-card:

My intention was not to be racist at all, i was just givin him an example cuz he was being racist to me, if all peruvians r machupichu like he said than that would make all brazilians africos then, anyway he isnt brazilian so im guessin either hes Mayan or Aztec then :lol: ...but true rascism deserved the :red-card:

[chaymin]

Italy has a good team and one of the best leagues in the world (let's not try to consider this an undiscutable issue). But these two facts have no strong implications on each other.


Traditionally it's true.


No!
Baggio didn't shoot the last penalty. Brazil still had another kick. If Baggio hadn't missed, Brazil would still have a chance of scoring on their trial.
Actually before Baggio missed, Italy's chances were already very low - he had to score, and the next brazilian had to miss, in order to pursue the penalty decision.
Baggion's missed kick was the 3rd missed italian penalty. Brazil had missed only one.

Another error is that '94 wasn't Brazil's "penta", but "tetra". If Italy had won that decision, they would have won their 4th title, and Brazil only 3. Nobody knows which effects this had had on the following two WCs. The fact is that Brazil reached both finals, winning one of them, and Italy couldn't reach the semis once.

Your affirmation that Italy would be "penta" before Brazil is too much speculative, based on a weak "if" and an even weaker future prevision.

Try to be less aggressive on your comments, because anyone tends to spread stupidities on such a situation.

I'd ask you to refrain from making any racist comment.
As you know from football rules, "responding" to an offense deserves a :red-card:

Nice post!

[chaymin]

fu*K U CARIOCA, U MEXICAN WANNA BE.... fu*K ARMAND u can suck on my balls and fu*k CHAYMAN.......... WHEN THE fu*K DID I start TALKin ABOUT PERU??? THE SUBJECT HERE IS MEXICO SUCKS U FUKIN KIDDIN ME?? I CAN SAY W/e THE fu*K I WANT IF I FEEL LIKE IT, WHAT HAPPENED CARIOCA?? U FINALLY LEARNED HOW TO TALK ENGLISH... :p its funny to me u made up a name on this forum just so u can talk shit to me Unam I am half peruvian btw, IM also half ITalian, so if that was what suppposedly pissed u off I CAN STILL TALK W/E i want!! AND ITALY WILL KICK BRAZILS ASS on the WC AND ABOUT MEXICO goin to the WC? TELL ME who did they beat?? u make me wanna laugh, how stupid r u ppl, I got ITaly that is a way better team than Peru and MExico :boo: :smoking: And peru btw played brazil,argentina etc.. who did mexico play....go learn something about fifa and the sport and then come talk to me, u IDIOTS :rolleyes:

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[ricoo9]

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[Carioca]

:smoking: :lol: wow Ricoo u're still here I don't know what makes you think that I'm a mexican wanna be or a Mexican.

Originally Posted by Ronni

I must say it's indeed sort of weird someone calling himself "carioca" and still supporting Palmeiras ... but why not ... sometimes weird things can happen too.

;) I don't really know scrap about mexican league, all I know is Chivas, Cruz Azul, America and Pumas because of their good role on Copa lebertadore and Sudamerican cup. About the other threads, yes I've done my research because it's funny to see how many haters are out there, people hate on Germany, Mexico, Ecuador(for qualifying to WC I guess) Costa Rica and specially African nations for joining the WC =======>and guess who are the top haters?? Number 1=Latinos(specially if didn't qalify to WC according to them some teams did not diserve a ticket) Number 2=American white boys(wich most of they don't even like their MLS and stick with European soccer) Number 3=Europeans(wich still insist that they continue to be the soccer giants, therefor no other underdog or undeveloped country without the rep, history and tradition shall win the WC-it would be catastrophic!)

Ricoo I could do research about any other country you name it, I'm so into futebol that I'm even wishing all the luck in the world to Trinidad,Angola and Iran cause I think they'll should do fine

Don't hate Ricoo and enjoy the carnival, evendough you don't have Peru on the run you still have Italy :brushteet
By the way I u don't hate on Mexican brodas than why do you waste your time looking for Mexican threads or related stuff? maybe to talk shit? or are u really interested on Mexican matters?
DUDE JUST LEAVE THEM ALONE

PALMEIRAS PALMEIRAS PALMEIRAS!!! :laser: Botafogo

[Carioca]

RICOO LET THE WORLD SPIN AROUND AND IF YOU BELIEVE ON SOMETHING(MEXICO SUCKS) ITS OK. JUST KEEP IT TO YOURSELF DON'T TRY TO ACT LIKE A PREACHER TRYING TO PERSUADE EVERYBODY
PEACE.
BRAZI BRAZIL BRAZIL !!!!
WERE'E GOING FOR THE 6th

SOCIEDADE ESPORTIVA PALMEIRAS

Quando surge o alviverde imponente
No gramado em que a luta o aguarda
Sabe bem o que vem pela frente
Que a dureza do prélio não tarda

E o Palmeiras no ardor da partida
Transformando a lealdade em padrão
Sabe sempre levar de vencida
E mostrar que de fato é campeão

Defesa que ninguém passa
Linha atacante de raça
Torcida que canta e vibra

Defesa que ninguém passa
Linha atacante de raça
Torcida que canta e vibra

Por nosso alviverde inteiro
Que sabe ser brasileiro
Ostentando a sua fibra

[el chingon]

hey ricoo...mexico doesnt suck.....go to the fifa rankings

http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Dec-2005,00.html


mexico is rank #5 if it sucks it wouldnt be #5.... and peru is at #66

you were saying that the concacaf have sucky teams so mexico easily qualifies for the world cup ......guatemala, trinidad and tobago, honduras, costa rica, and usa are all higher ranked then peru

dont go around saying mexico sucks, and saying that they never get past the second round... they have gotten to the quarter finals before. has peru ever even qualified for the world cup? and when was the last time they even won a tournament?mexico has won many tournaments

i got this results from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_national_football_team

Gold Cup record
1991 - Third place
1993 - Champions
1996 - Champions
1998 - Champions
2000 - Quarterfinals
2002 - Quarterfinals
2003 - Champions
2005 - Quarterfinals

Copa América record
1993 - Second place
1995 - Quarterfinals
1997 - Third place
1999 - Third place
2001 - Second place
2004 - Quarterfinals

see even if we dont win a tournament we still do good, unlike peru :boo:

and if mexico does go to conmebol it would just lower the chances for peru to qualify for world cup wich will never really happen:lol: :lol: :lol:

[chamillionaire]

viva mexico you f*u**in haters mexico se va chingar a todos estos putos creidos!!!!!!

[Global]

indeed, mexico sucks.

[el chingon]

[indeed, mexico sucks

mexico is probably better then your country.....watch in world cup mexico is going to prove they dont suck

[PunkguyEG]

hey ricoo...mexico doesnt suck.....go to the fifa rankings

http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Dec-2005,00.html


mexico is rank #5 if it sucks it wouldnt be #5.... and peru is at #66

you were saying that the concacaf have sucky teams so mexico easily qualifies for the world cup ......guatemala, trinidad and tobago, honduras, costa rica, and usa are all higher ranked then peru

dont go around saying mexico sucks, and saying that they never get past the second round... they have gotten to the quarter finals before. has peru ever even qualified for the world cup? and when was the last time they even won a tournament?mexico has won many tournaments

i got this results from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_national_football_team

Gold Cup record
1991 - Third place
1993 - Champions
1996 - Champions
1998 - Champions
2000 - Quarterfinals
2002 - Quarterfinals
2003 - Champions
2005 - Quarterfinals

Copa América record
1993 - Second place
1995 - Quarterfinals
1997 - Third place
1999 - Third place
2001 - Second place
2004 - Quarterfinals

see even if we dont win a tournament we still do good, unlike peru :boo:

and if mexico does go to conmebol it would just lower the chances for peru to qualify for world cup wich will never really happen:lol: :lol: :lol:

"mexico has won many tournaments"
:lol: :boo:

[chaymin]

indeed, mexico sucks.

not nice

[chaymin]

"mexico has won many tournaments"
:lol: :boo:

Yup. Many more than the US. :D

[ricoo9]

hey ricoo...mexico doesnt suck.....go to the fifa rankings

http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Dec-2005,00.html


mexico is rank #5 if it sucks it wouldnt be #5.... and peru is at #66

you were saying that the concacaf have sucky teams so mexico easily qualifies for the world cup ......guatemala, trinidad and tobago, honduras, costa rica, and usa are all higher ranked then peru

dont go around saying mexico sucks, and saying that they never get past the second round... they have gotten to the quarter finals before. has peru ever even qualified for the world cup? and when was the last time they even won a tournament?mexico has won many tournaments

i got this results from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_national_football_team

Gold Cup record
1991 - Third place
1993 - Champions
1996 - Champions
1998 - Champions
2000 - Quarterfinals
2002 - Quarterfinals
2003 - Champions
2005 - Quarterfinals

Copa América record
1993 - Second place
1995 - Quarterfinals
1997 - Third place
1999 - Third place
2001 - Second place
2004 - Quarterfinals

see even if we dont win a tournament we still do good, unlike peru :boo:

and if mexico does go to conmebol it would just lower the chances for peru to qualify for world cup wich will never really happen:lol: :lol: :lol:

Damn, I dont mean to be offensive but obviously u dont know shit about football or its history. u r the reason why i write these posts cuz mexicns hype up their team and actually start to believe their better than these other teams.

First of all, Fifa rankings dont mean shit, or r u gonna tell me that mexico is better than holland? , i will teach u something today when i tell u this, NO CENTRAL AMERICAN TEAM IS BETTER THAN ANY CONMEBOL TEAM period!, not even better than Venezuela or Bolivia so using that to say there r teams "ranked" higher than peru is just plain stupid.

Second, wtf is a gold cup? its just another Taco bell cup like we call it here, and for ur Info Peru has won the Copa America twice, its very nice that Mexico might reach the semis once in a while when they beat all the bench teams that come to the cup nowadays but when have they won it? :worried:
Never, and Never will either, sorry but its the truth.

Third, again just to keep u from being ingorant, Yes, Peru has reached the quarter Finals in WC and it wasnt cuz we hosted like Mexico did when they reached the quarters, unlike u guys Peru has never hosted a WC. Teofilo Cubillas is in the top 8 in WC leading scorers, I dont see any mexicans?:confused: oops there not even close to the top ten sorry!

Finally, yes i think it would be harder for peru, chile, colombia , Urugay, Venezuela, Bolivia, and Paragay if Mexico joined the conmebol, But I never said i want this to happen, I said we should Join concacrap and conmebol toghether that I would like and teams that deserve to go like Colombia and Urugay will finally go instead of freakin Trinidad or Costa Rica:worried:. Ok well I hope u liked the history lesson I gave u here son and I hope u become a little less ignorant, goodluck to mexico in the wc!:)

[Global]

why mexican are so proud ? what have u done ? i hate your attitude... all the mexican are like u ????

[ricoo9]

:smoking: :lol: wow Ricoo u're still here I don't know what makes you think that I'm a mexican wanna be or a Mexican.

Originally Posted by Ronni

I must say it's indeed sort of weird someone calling himself "carioca" and still supporting Palmeiras ... but why not ... sometimes weird things can happen too.

;) I don't really know scrap about mexican league, all I know is Chivas, Cruz Azul, America and Pumas because of their good role on Copa lebertadore and Sudamerican cup. About the other threads, yes I've done my research because it's funny to see how many haters are out there, people hate on Germany, Mexico, Ecuador(for qualifying to WC I guess) Costa Rica and specially African nations for joining the WC =======>and guess who are the top haters?? Number 1=Latinos(specially if didn't qalify to WC according to them some teams did not diserve a ticket) Number 2=American white boys(wich most of they don't even like their MLS and stick with European soccer) Number 3=Europeans(wich still insist that they continue to be the soccer giants, therefor no other underdog or undeveloped country without the rep, history and tradition shall win the WC-it would be catastrophic!)

Ricoo I could do research about any other country you name it, I'm so into futebol that I'm even wishing all the luck in the world to Trinidad,Angola and Iran cause I think they'll should do fine

Don't hate Ricoo and enjoy the carnival, evendough you don't have Peru on the run you still have Italy :brushteet
By the way I u don't hate on Mexican brodas than why do you waste your time looking for Mexican threads or related stuff? maybe to talk shit? or are u really interested on Mexican matters?
DUDE JUST LEAVE THEM ALONE

PALMEIRAS PALMEIRAS PALMEIRAS!!! :laser: Botafogo

sorry bro but u aint trickin no one, I know ur one of these mexicans but w/e i dont care.... u can call urself w/e u want, Brazilian, Argentinan, Cuban , its cool ;)

[mawin312]

Damn, I dont mean to be offensive but obviously u dont know shit about football or its history. u r the reason why i write these posts cuz mexicns hype up their team and actually start to believe their better than these other teams.

First of all, Fifa rankings dont mean shit, or r u gonna tell me that mexico is better than holland? , i will teach u something today when i tell u this, NO CENTRAL AMERICAN TEAM IS BETTER THAN ANY CONMEBOL TEAM period!, not even better than Venezuela or Bolivia so using that to say there r teams "ranked" higher than peru is just plain stupid.

Second, wtf is a gold cup? its just another Taco bell cup like we call it here, and for ur Info Peru has won the Copa America twice, its very nice that Mexico might reach the semis once in a while when they beat all the bench teams that come to the cup nowadays but when have they won it? :worried:
Never, and Never will either, sorry but its the truth.

Third, again just to keep u from being ingorant, Yes, Peru has reached the quarter Finals in WC and it wasnt cuz we hosted like Mexico did when they reached the quarters, unlike u guys Peru has never hosted a WC. Teofilo Cubillas is in the top 8 in WC leading scorers, I dont see any mexicans?:confused: oops there not even close to the top ten sorry!

Finally, yes i think it would be harder for peru, chile, colombia , Urugay, Venezuela, Bolivia, and Paragay if Mexico joined the conmebol, But I never said i want this to happen, I said we should Join concacrap and conmebol toghether that I would like and teams that deserve to go like Colombia and Urugay will finally go instead of freakin Trinidad or Costa Rica:worried:. Ok well I hope u liked the history lesson I gave u here son and I hope u become a little less ignorant, goodluck to mexico in the wc!:)

:lol: :lol: :lol: Mexico and the US are better then countries like peru, Venezuela, Bolivia, Chile, Equador, and Colombia. You can argue with Paraguay and Uruguay. But sayin that ALL Conmebol countries are better then any Concacaf country is being very ignorant.

[ricoo9]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Mexico and the US are better then countries like peru, Venezuela, Bolivia, Chile, Equador, and Colombia. You can argue with Paraguay and Uruguay. But sayin that ALL Conmebol countries are better then any Concacaf country is being very ignorant.

damn dude, u dont know how to read, i said they r better than all central american teams, i didnt know USA and MExico r part of Central America, last time i checked they belong to North America.. I guess they made a mistake in all the geography books in the world:rolleyes:

[chaymin]

Damn, I dont mean to be offensive but obviously u dont know shit about football or its history. u r the reason why i write these posts cuz mexicns hype up their team and actually start to believe their better than these other teams.

First of all, Fifa rankings dont mean shit, or r u gonna tell me that mexico is better than holland?

I agree with you on the above quote. The FIFA rankings arent good and Mexico is not better than Holland.

, i will teach u something today when i tell u this, NO CENTRAL AMERICAN TEAM IS BETTER THAN ANY CONMEBOL TEAM period!, not even better than Venezuela or Bolivia so using that to say there r teams "ranked" higher than peru is just plain stupid.

I kinda agree on this one. Costa Rica has really brought up their level... they'll be as good or better than Venezuela and Bolivia.

FYI... Mexico is North America, not Central America (Just wanted to clear that up).

Second, wtf is a gold cup? its just another Taco bell cup like we call it here, and for ur Info Peru has won the Copa America twice, its very nice that Mexico might reach the semis once in a while when they beat all the bench teams that come to the cup nowadays but when have they won it? :worried:
Never, and Never will either, sorry but its the truth.

Taco Bell cup? I've never heard that... thats probably what they call it in Peru. Its CONCACAF teams and they always invite 2 other countries. Its a valid FIFA tournament which is as valid as it gets!

Third, again just to keep u from being ingorant, Yes, Peru has reached the quarter Finals in WC and it wasnt cuz we hosted like Mexico did when they reached the quarters, unlike u guys Peru has never hosted a WC. Teofilo Cubillas is in the top 8 in WC leading scorers, I dont see any mexicans?:confused: oops there not even close to the top ten sorry!

Look at consistency in the World Cup. Mexico has constantly made it past the first stage and been to more World Cups than Peru. Top 8 WC scorers? Probably no Mexicans... but in the qualifying Borgetti scored more goals than any one else in the WORLD!

Finally, yes i think it would be harder for peru, chile, colombia , Urugay, Venezuela, Bolivia, and Paragay if Mexico joined the conmebol, But I never said i want this to happen, I said we should Join concacrap and conmebol toghether that I would like and teams that deserve to go like Colombia and Urugay will finally go instead of freakin Trinidad or Costa Rica:worried:. Ok well I hope u liked the history lesson I gave u here son and I hope u become a little less ignorant, goodluck to mexico in the wc!:)

It'd be interesting if this did happen. Mexico would be up there... not the #1 spot but around 4th place...

[ricoo9]

I kinda agree on this one. Costa Rica has really brought up their level... they'll be as good or better than Venezuela and Bolivia.

Maybe better than Bolivia but I doubt Venezuela, they have really raised their level of play including a 3-0 win against Urugay in Montevideo, something Costa Rica will never even manage in their wildest dreams


FYI... Mexico is North America, not Central America (Just wanted to clear that up).

Good that u know it cuz ur boy MAWIN didnt know that


Taco Bell cup? I've never heard that... thats probably what they call it in Peru. Its CONCACAF teams and they always invite 2 other countries. Its a valid FIFA tournament which is as valid as it gets!

ur right, but who looks at this tournament as a real competitive one? seriously? even ronni calls this the taco bell cup, thats where i got it from btw


Look at consistency in the World Cup. Mexico has constantly made it past the first stage and been to more World Cups than Peru. Top 8 WC scorers? Probably no Mexicans... but in the qualifying Borgetti scored more goals than any one else in the WORLD!

Mexico has also qualified to the WC more times then England, Spain, and France, it doesnt make them a better team, we all know why they go all the time anyway. and about borgetti? com'on man... more goals then even ronaldo, henry, shevchenko? just look at the teams who he scores against.either way it doesnt compare to a WC leading scorer, not even close


It'd be interesting if this did happen. Mexico would be up there... not the #1 spot but around 4th place...

I would say anywere from 4th to 8th depending on how the qualyies would go

[culooche]

In my opinion, Mexico should be 10 or 9th.....Not that much of a strong team, with alll the respect.

[Ronni]

PALMEIRAS PALMEIRAS PALMEIRAS!!! :laser: Botafogo
you always manage to surprise me!

You "cariocans" that are Palmeiras fans shouldn't hate Botafogo that much! Why do you keep that horrible rivalry?

[bboy treble]

damn dude, u dont know how to read, i said they r better than all central american teams, i didnt know USA and MExico r part of Central America, last time i checked they belong to North America.. I guess they made a mistake in all the geography books in the world:rolleyes:


haha owned

[giorgiob8]

Although I don't agree with the title of the thread I do believe that Mexico is over-rated by FIFA and most Mexican fans do not accept that they don't belong to the world elite and regional teams such as the USA and Costa Rica caught up with them.

Personally I believe that Mexican football did not evolve past the 60's and it is mainly because they have a competitive domestic league so most of their players are not exposed to the ultimate in football which is played in Europe, to make matters worse they import players basically from South America who by style accomodate to the ancient Mexican way where a team heats the ball forever before daring to try a shot (a lot of midfield passes)

As for World Cups I can name 5 outstanding negative records that they have written in the History Book and I can not find a positive one:

1) Highest number of matches lost (after regular time and extra time): 20
2) Worst goal difference: -36
3) Goalkeeper with more goals conceeded: 25 Antonio Carbajal
4) The first own goal was shot by Manuel Rosas (Mexico) during a game against Chile in 1930
5) The first hat-trick in World Cup history was allowed by Mexico in 1930 shot by Guillermo Stábile (Argentina)

[ricoo9]

you always manage to surprise me!

You "cariocans" that are Palmeiras fans shouldn't hate Botafogo that much! Why do you keep that horrible rivalry?

u shouldnt be surprised at all, hes a mexican in disguise, thats why he makes no sense

[chamillionaire]

just wait untill the WC, you will see why mexico is in the top 5 in the world!!!
viva mexico!!!!putos!!!!

[el chingon]

just wait untill the WC, you will see why mexico is in the top 5 in the world!!!
viva mexico!!!!putos!!!!

yea i cant wait to the world cup......mexico will show why they are rank number 5. i think mexico will finish #1 in their group. mexico will probably beat portugal .oswaldo sanchez wont let any of those hoes from portugal score.

[chaymin]

Maybe better than Bolivia but I doubt Venezuela, they have really raised their level of play including a 3-0 win against Urugay in Montevideo, something Costa Rica will never even manage in their wildest dreams



Good that u know it cuz ur boy MAWIN didnt know that



ur right, but who looks at this tournament as a real competitive one? seriously? even ronni calls this the taco bell cup, thats where i got it from btw



Mexico has also qualified to the WC more times then England, Spain, and France, it doesnt make them a better team, we all know why they go all the time anyway. and about borgetti? com'on man... more goals then even ronaldo, henry, shevchenko? just look at the teams who he scores against.either way it doesnt compare to a WC leading scorer, not even close



I would say anywere from 4th to 8th depending on how the qualyies would go

There are bits and pieces that I don't agree with... but those are a matter of opinion.

On a side note. I respect this post. You gave your opinion without being racist or talking crap (Like in the Mexico forums). Post more like this and you'll have my upmost respect. :) :) :)

[ricoo9]

http://www.terra.com/deportes/articulo/html/fox218039.htm



Cuauhtémoc Blanco entre los mejores jugadores del mundo

06/ENE/2006 -Luego de que el entrenador argentino hizo unas declaraciones para la televisión, en las que interpreta que el atacante mexicano no le "llena el ojo" y que si no juega como el portugués Deco, el brasileño Ronaldinho o el francés Zidane no puede ser parte del combinado nacional, Blanco aseguró que cuenta con la capacidad suficiente en la cancha.

Yo quería triunfar en España y tenía la ilusión. Sé que soy uno de los mejores, mi trabajo me ha costado, además de la ayuda de mis compañeros, amigos y familiares".
Blanco dijo que Alemania 2006 le ilusiona, ya que sería suúltimo Mundial y quiere jugarlo, pero no quiso entrar una vez más en polémicas con la que él llama una "novela" y prefirió repetir su disposición para acudir al llamado de La Volpe, en caso de que el pampero decida hacerlo.

El artillero de las Aguilas se negó a hablar de la posibilidad de que el argentino Walter Gaytán le quite un lugar en el Tri, luego de que el técnico nacional manifestó su interés por contar con el jugador de Tigres quien aún no tiene la nacionalidad mexicana.


First off, I wanna say how dare this guy say he is at the level of ronaldinho or Zidane?? these guys will never stop talkin garbage will they? It doesnt amaze me anymore after seeing other outragous remarks by mexicans. "Cuauhtémoc Blanco entre los mejores jugadores del mundo" wtf? how can he say that, when there r like 1,000 players that r better than him.

2nd problem i see with this article is that U guys r gonna naturalize yet Another Argentinan... sad, really really really sad, but yet i saw in someone elses post that supposedly argentina and Mexico r very even... sad really really sad:sad: I think its alright to have high hopes for ur national team but to say that mexico at the same level of argentina is a disgrace to the sport as we know it :worried:
its like this:
1.brazil
2.argentina, mexico--mexico and argentina are very even teams.
3.Paraguay
:faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2:

[PALESTINO]

a few things:

mexico beat brasil.that was a top class brasil squad and you cant tell me
they didnt care about winning

your national team would have a hard time against iran


i agree mexico has it easy in concacaf.what can we do?god put them there...

[bernardo8]

http://www.terra.com/deportes/articulo/html/fox218039.htm





First off, I wanna say how dare this guy say he is at the level of ronaldinho or Zidane?? these guys will never stop talkin garbage will they? It doesnt amaze me anymore after seeing other outragous remarks by mexicans. "Cuauhtémoc Blanco entre los mejores jugadores del mundo" wtf? how can he say that, when there r like 1,000 players that r better than him.

2nd problem i see with this article is that U guys r gonna naturalize yet Another Argentinan... sad, really really really sad, but yet i saw in someone elses post that supposedly argentina and Mexico r very even... sad really really sad:sad: I think its alright to have high hopes for ur national team but to say that mexico at the same level of argentina is a disgrace to the sport as we know it :worried:

:faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2:

dude i totally agree that blanco isnt as good as zidane or the others, but hes a very very talented player,(not worse than 1000 players) beleive me if it wasnt for that piece of shit trinidad and tobago player that went straight for his knee during a game, he wouldve had more activity in Europe; but i also think his attitude affected him, hes been also known for being fery conflictive (if thats a word in english)

dude gaitan is brazilian and beleive me as much as there are naturalized players in mexico, la volpe is going to take one maybe as much as two but not all of them.
what a coincidence, on the sports section in the newspaper today this came out.(Palabra newspaper, part of grupo reforma, one of the best newspapers in Mexico)

i couldnt find this info on the papers site so i could just copy paste,, so here is part of the thread.

Naturalized players
Player-------------National Team-----C. of origin
Gerald Asamoha----Germany----------Ghana
Lukas Podolski------Germany----------Poland
Kevin Kuranyi-------Germany---------Brazil
Patrik Owomoyeva--Germany---------Nigeria
Mauro Camoranesi---Italy------------Argentina
Lilian Thuram--------France----------Islas Gpe. (I dont know the name in english)
Florent Malouda-----France-----------Guyana
David Trezeguet-----France----------Argentina
Deco---------------Portugal-----------Brazil
Ricardo Cabañas----Switzerland--------Spain
Hakan Yakin--------Switzerland--------Turkey
Alessandro Santos---Japan-------------Brazil

[bernardo8]

Although I don't agree with the title of the thread I do believe that Mexico is over-rated by FIFA and most Mexican fans do not accept that they don't belong to the world elite and regional teams such as the USA and Costa Rica caught up with them.

Personally I believe that Mexican football did not evolve past the 60's and it is mainly because they have a competitive domestic league so most of their players are not exposed to the ultimate in football which is played in Europe, to make matters worse they import players basically from South America who by style accomodate to the ancient Mexican way where a team heats the ball forever before daring to try a shot (a lot of midfield passes)

As for World Cups I can name 5 outstanding negative records that they have written in the History Book and I can not find a positive one:

1) Highest number of matches lost (after regular time and extra time): 20
2) Worst goal difference: -36
3) Goalkeeper with more goals conceeded: 25 Antonio Carbajal
4) The first own goal was shot by Manuel Rosas (Mexico) during a game against Chile in 1930
5) The first hat-trick in World Cup history was allowed by Mexico in 1930 shot by Guillermo Stábile (Argentina)

Yes its true, i think that Mexico is not better than England or some other countries behind them in the world ranking. Another thing ahhaha, well Mexico is one of the countries with the most world cups with 13, only argentina italy germany and brazil have more. And yes its true mexico started significantly improving only after 1986, maybe in 1970 but not that much. so thats why they might have a lot of matches lost, same with the goal difference.
Also antonio carbajal is the player with most world cup participations with 5, along with lothar mathaus,(im not sure its spelled that way) that means he played 15 games, thats an average of almost 2 (well 1.66) goals per game, which really sucks but when mentioning 25 goals against it sounds much worse.

[Iranfan06]

WTF? "my high school team can beat Iran"?
What an idiot. Do you know anything about football (or as you probably say it, "saaacer"). Your national team had trouble playing against Iran. They lost TWICE.
And don't be disrespecting mexico. THey are a great team, although overrated.

[ricoo9]

Naturalized players
Player-------------National Team-----C. of origin
Gerald Asamoha----Germany----------Ghana
Lukas Podolski------Germany----------Poland
Kevin Kuranyi-------Germany---------Brazil
Patrik Owomoyeva--Germany---------Nigeria
Mauro Camoranesi---Italy------------Argentina
Lilian Thuram--------France----------Islas Gpe. (I dont know the name in english)
Florent Malouda-----France-----------Guyana
David Trezeguet-----France----------Argentina
Deco---------------Portugal-----------Brazil
Ricardo Cabañas----Switzerland--------Spain
Hakan Yakin--------Switzerland--------Turkey
Alessandro Santos---Japan-------------Brazil

I understand what ur trying to say here but just look at those names..
Trezeguets parents were from france, Camoranesis were from Italy, Kuranyi was born in brazil but is half german as well, asamoah has been livin in germany since he was 12yo.. same goes for most of these players, with the exception of Santos in Japan their stories r very different from the naturalized players in Mexico.

I know alot of countries r doing it but most of those guys can call themselves French, German etc if they wanted to, but these guys that are gonna play in Mexico have no history/background/heritage from mexico which was the point i was tryin to make. I'm sure giovanny dos santos guy could play for brazil if he wanted to(thats if they would let him) yet he was born in Mexico. I believe that If Mexico wants the world to respect them as a football country they should defenitly stop doing this and just play with Mexicans, for having one of the best leagues in Latin America it sure is pathetic that u cant find any national players to play the most important positions (strikers, creative midfield) that u have to recur to players from Brazil and Argentina.

[bernardo8]

I understand what ur trying to say here but just look at those names..
Trezeguets parents were from france, Camoranesis were from Italy, Kuranyi was born in brazil but is half german as well, asamoah has been livin in germany since he was 12yo.. same goes for most of these players, with the exception of Santos in Japan their stories r very different from the naturalized players in Mexico.

I know alot of countries r doing it but most of those guys can call themselves French, German etc if they wanted to, but these guys that are gonna play in Mexico have no history/background/heritage from mexico which was the point i was tryin to make. I'm sure giovanny dos santos guy could play for brazil if he wanted to(thats if they would let him) yet he was born in Mexico. I believe that If Mexico wants the world to respect them as a football country they should defenitly stop doing this and just play with Mexicans, for having one of the best leagues in Latin America it sure is pathetic that u cant find any national players to play the most important positions (strikers, creative midfield) that u have to recur to players from Brazil and Argentina.

dude yes its true some of them have the origin of the country theyre playing in, about giovanni dos santos, yes he could play in brazil, and he still can, the only time u cant play with ur country of origin is when u have played with the A team of another country, and wtf giovanni has many times expressed that he feels hes from mexico rather from brazil, he identifies himself more as a mexican and also says that even if hes good enough for brazil he still prefers mexico. I disagree with Mexico taking naturalized players to the WC, the 3 main ones (guille franco, walter gaitan(who isnt naturalized yet), and zinha(hes not even going to the world cup, almost nobody in mexico wants him to) i think lavolpe will just take franco or gaitan, one or another not both of em. And all this has been a controversy in mexico because Lavolpe and cuahutemoc, (who plays the same position as these guys), have had problems that date back to 1996, i still think he should take blanco, but blanco needs to change his attitude

[arcturus rex]

I understand what ur trying to say here but just look at those names..
Trezeguets parents were from france, Camoranesis were from Italy, Kuranyi was born in brazil but is half german as well, asamoah has been livin in germany since he was 12yo.. same goes for most of these players, with the exception of Santos in Japan their stories r very different from the naturalized players in Mexico.

I know alot of countries r doing it but most of those guys can call themselves French, German etc if they wanted to, but these guys that are gonna play in Mexico have no history/background/heritage from mexico which was the point i was tryin to make. I'm sure giovanny dos santos guy could play for brazil if he wanted to(thats if they would let him) yet he was born in Mexico. I believe that If Mexico wants the world to respect them as a football country they should defenitly stop doing this and just play with Mexicans, for having one of the best leagues in Latin America it sure is pathetic that u cant find any national players to play the most important positions (strikers, creative midfield) that u have to recur to players from Brazil and Argentina.


I have read many of the posts you have written in different threads. Your opinions have a constant undertheme: an apparent dislike or hatred of Mexicans. Your comments are usually provoking and biased. Truly, if you have such a fixation on putting down Mexican soccer in such a mean-spirited way, keep your opinions to yourself and sleep soundly at night believing that you are right. I don't know what situations have spurred your attitude, nor do I care, but I think that that very attitude is unacceptable whether you are Italian, Peruvian or Mexican. It is veritably pitiful. Sleep tight and good-bye.

[ricoo9]

I have read many of the posts you have written in different threads. Your opinions have a constant undertheme: an apparent dislike or hatred of Mexicans. Your comments are usually provoking and biased. Truly, if you have such a fixation on putting down Mexican soccer in such a mean-spirited way, keep your opinions to yourself and sleep soundly at night believing that you are right. I don't know what situations have spurred your attitude, nor do I care, but I think that that very attitude is unacceptable whether you are Italian, Peruvian or Mexican. It is veritably pitiful. Sleep tight and good-bye.

like u said, keep opinions to urself :boo:

[chamillionaire]

like u said, keep opinions to urself :boo:
what he said isnt an opinion its a fact!!! stupid ass!!!

[ricoo9]

what he said isnt an opinion its a fact!!! stupid ass!!!

ur grandmother is stupid bitch!

[Iranfan06]

Mexico does not suck. I don't understand why people come in and tell us to stop discussing why we shouldn't disrespect mexico. so what? maybe some people want to.

[RealMadrilismo]

what he said isnt an opinion its a fact!!! stupid ass!!!

ur grandmother is stupid bitch!

Yo shut the ***k up both of you.

[Phunk Phenom]

Nothing against Mexicans, but you have to admit that the Mexican National team is way too overrated. I hope the Mexicans don't have their sights on making it far in the world cup. They won't make it farther than the second round.

[rojinegro13]

well zinha is hurt and will miss up to two months, so we probably wont see him at the WC, (thank God) and a more deserving MEXICAN player will take his spot.
If Mexico wants the world to respect them as a football country they should defenitly stop doing this and just play with Mexicans, for having one of the best leagues in Latin America it sure is pathetic that u cant find any national players to play the most important positions (strikers, creative midfield) that u have to recur to players from Brazil and Argentina.

I totally agree with this, and now with the 20/11 rule we are seeing a lot of younger talent that wouldnt get a chance to play before. It is really sad that the only way to get the teams/coaches to give these guys a chance is by making them. This is one idea that the FMF really got right.

Franco is at Villareal now and hes not getting much playing time because of injury, but Lavolpe seems to be stuck on him and is calling him for the game against Ghana. I'm not sure about him although I cant name a player that I would rather see in his spot.

[DuZCO]

Nothing against Mexicans, but you have to admit that the Mexican National team is way too overrated. I hope the Mexicans don't have their sights on making it far in the world cup. They won't make it farther than the second round.

Mexico's overrated u say? Well check out a couple of quotes from Mexico's WC group competitors.

Luiz Felipe Scolari (Portugal coach)
We have a difficult draw. Mexico are one of the top teams according to the FIFA Ranking – and I know just how good they are.

Branko Ivankovic (Iran coach)
Before the draw, I didn't have a particular choice of who we would play as no sides are easy. Beyond question, Mexico and Portugal are the favoured teams in Group D. Mexico impressed me in this year's FIFA Confederations Cup and Portugal reached the final of EURO 2004 as hosts, so I think these two teams could be among the top four to win the whole tournament.

So judging from these comments made by two totally respected NT coaches who know alot more about football then all of us here, Mexico is not overrated.

And if you think you know more than these two gentlemen, (and you don't) what the hell are you doing on ur ass in front of this computer!? Go out and become a NT coach.

Please enlighten the world with your wisdom. :rolleyes:

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/group/quotes.html?group=D

[tronxz28]

well zinha is hurt and will miss up to two months, so we probably wont see him at the WC, (thank God) and a more deserving MEXICAN player will take his spot.
If Mexico wants the world to respect them as a football country they should defenitly stop doing this and just play with Mexicans, for having one of the best leagues in Latin America it sure is pathetic that u cant find any national players to play the most important positions (strikers, creative midfield) that u have to recur to players from Brazil and Argentina.

I totally agree with this, and now with the 20/11 rule we are seeing a lot of younger talent that wouldnt get a chance to play before. It is really sad that the only way to get the teams/coaches to give these guys a chance is by making them. This is one idea that the FMF really got right.

Franco is at Villareal now and hes not getting much playing time because of injury, but Lavolpe seems to be stuck on him and is calling him for the game against Ghana. I'm not sure about him although I cant name a player that I would rather see in his spot.

I hope at the end Zinha does not go to the world cup. Lavolpe likes him a lot so only an injury will stop lavolpe from calling zinha. I prefer to see Luis Perez in that position. Zinha has been playing terrible game after game... I mean, if we are going to have a player that was not born in mexico at least that player should be really good. Even Pardo can play in that position.

[el chingon]

well zinha is hurt and will miss up to two months, so we probably wont see him at the WC, (thank God) and a more deserving MEXICAN player will take his spot.
If Mexico wants the world to respect them as a football country they should defenitly stop doing this and just play with Mexicans, for having one of the best leagues in Latin America it sure is pathetic that u cant find any national players to play the most important positions (strikers, creative midfield) that u have to recur to players from Brazil and Argentina.

I totally agree with this, and now with the 20/11 rule we are seeing a lot of younger talent that wouldnt get a chance to play before. It is really sad that the only way to get the teams/coaches to give these guys a chance is by making them. This is one idea that the FMF really got right.

Franco is at Villareal now and hes not getting much playing time because of injury, but Lavolpe seems to be stuck on him and is calling him for the game against Ghana. I'm not sure about him although I cant name a player that I would rather see in his spot.

i agree they should just take MEXICANS to the world cup :sad:

[handofgod]

Mexico's overrated u say? Well check out a couple of quotes from Mexico's WC group competitors.

Luiz Felipe Scolari (Portugal coach)
We have a difficult draw. Mexico are one of the top teams according to the FIFA Ranking – and I know just how good they are.

Branko Ivankovic (Iran coach)
Before the draw, I didn't have a particular choice of who we would play as no sides are easy. Beyond question, Mexico and Portugal are the favoured teams in Group D. Mexico impressed me in this year's FIFA Confederations Cup and Portugal reached the final of EURO 2004 as hosts, so I think these two teams could be among the top four to win the whole tournament.

So judging from these comments made by two totally respected NT coaches who know alot more about football then all of us here, Mexico is not overrated.

And if you think you know more than these two gentlemen, (and you don't) what the hell are you doing on ur ass in front of this computer!? Go out and become a NT coach.

Please enlighten the world with your wisdom. :rolleyes:

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/group/quotes.html?group=D


Well WTF you want them to say: MEXICO SUCKS?? Those are classy people representing nations. We instead on this chat are animals so we post what they really think: MEXICO SUCKS!!!!

[Phunk Phenom]

Mexico's overrated u say? Well check out a couple of quotes from Mexico's WC group competitors.

Luiz Felipe Scolari (Portugal coach)
We have a difficult draw. Mexico are one of the top teams according to the FIFA Ranking – and I know just how good they are.

Branko Ivankovic (Iran coach)
Before the draw, I didn't have a particular choice of who we would play as no sides are easy. Beyond question, Mexico and Portugal are the favoured teams in Group D. Mexico impressed me in this year's FIFA Confederations Cup and Portugal reached the final of EURO 2004 as hosts, so I think these two teams could be among the top four to win the whole tournament.

So judging from these comments made by two totally respected NT coaches who know alot more about football then all of us here, Mexico is not overrated.

And if you think you know more than these two gentlemen, (and you don't) what the hell are you doing on ur ass in front of this computer!? Go out and become a NT coach.

Please enlighten the world with your wisdom. :rolleyes:

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/group/quotes.html?group=D





Let me enlighten you with this. Mexico sucks monkey balls. That's why they are too chicken s@$# to play South America in the world cup qualifyers. Last I checked, they haven't won a Copa Libertadores, Copa America or World Cup. The only reason they have a high ranking in Fifa is becuase they play in the freaking Concacaf. You can put Iraq in that division and they would qualify every time too. If they are so good why is it that their players always choke when they leave the country to play in Europe or in South America. I'll even give you examples; Luis Fernandez didn't do crap in Boca, Quaotemoc (however you spell his name) Blanco didn't do carp in Spain, Borgetti can't even get on the field. The only one doing halfway decent is Rafa Marquez. Their league is mediocre. It's the most boring league to watch. There is no way you can compare it to the best leagues in the world like Italy, Argentina, Spain and Brazil. As far as the comments go, what the hell do you want the coaches to say, Mexico sucks ass? I'm sure they are thinking that in their minds, but they have more class than to day that out loud. Maybe the Tri should stick to making tequila.:ronaldo:

[Global]

Mexico has an average team. The only thing i don't like about mexico is that they use players from other countires like brazil or Argentina. For example, Franco is an argentinian, he doesn't have any conection with Mexico... that's really annoying.
The national team of ANY country must be formed by people from that country, in my opinion.
Using foreing player is sad, as someone said before... they do that cuz they dun have enough quality players, thats the only reason i can see. Otherwise they wouldn't do that. I want to see my country with players from MY country, but thats me.
I mean... Franco Doesn't represent Mexico, Does he ?
peace

[BARCELONA4]

guy,your mind is all fvcked! your highschool team can beat iran?i dont think so iran can stand against any team and iran can fvck your mamma,and BTW im from iran and mexico is our rival but i dont go around the forums posting retardet shit like u! i just post iran can beat mexico mark my words,i dont go swearing around,u seriously have problems

YOU ARE SO RIGHT. IT'S OK TO SAY YOUR TEAM IS GOING TO WIN. BUT HAND OF GOD IS STUPID GOING AROUND POSTING STUPID $H!&. AND YOUR HIGH SCHOOL TEAM CAN'T BEAT IRAN YOU DUMBFACE. THEN, WHY AREN'T YOUR HIGH SCHOOL BUDDIES PLAYING FOR THEIR COUNTRY IN THE WC. EVERY TEAM IS IN THE WC FOR A REASON---- BECAUSE THEIR GOOD, REGARLESS OF ANGOLA,T&T,MEXICO,BRASILIA,ITALY OR JAPAN, THEY'RE THERE TO WIN OR AT LEAST TRY. WE DON'T NEED $H!&. FROM YOU HAND OF GOD.

[BARCELONA4]

That is so true, MExican players , ppl everybody in that country likes to talk so much garbage, thats why in conmebol nobody likes them. What is it that makes them talk so much crap? is it all the spicy food or is it the beans? :lol: Mexico hasnt won crap and they never will


ACTUALLY, MEXICO AND BRAZIL ARE VERY GOOD BUDDIES. THEY RESPECT EACH OTHERS' SOCCER. MEXICO RESPECTS BRAZIL CUZ THEY'RE BRAZIL. BRAZIL RESPECTS MEXICO CUZ' THEY'RE PROGRESSING EVERY DAY.
I'M BRAZILIAN,MEXICAN, AND LIVE IN USA. I GO FOR ALL OF THE TEAMS BUT THE TRUTH IS MEXICO AND USA ARE GREAT. RICOO, HAND OF GOD SHOW ME PROOF WHEN WERE THEY INVITED. I WORK FOR FIFA COMMUNICATIONS THERE WAS NO SUCH ACTION.

[fallon144]

ACTUALLY, MEXICO AND BRAZIL ARE VERY GOOD BUDDIES. THEY RESPECT EACH OTHERS' SOCCER. MEXICO RESPECTS BRAZIL CUZ THEY'RE BRAZIL. BRAZIL RESPECTS MEXICO CUZ' THEY'RE PROGRESSING EVERY DAY.
I'M BRAZILIAN,MEXICAN, AND LIVE IN USA. I GO FOR ALL OF THE TEAMS BUT THE TRUTH IS MEXICO AND USA ARE GREAT. RICOO, HAND OF GOD SHOW ME PROOF WHEN WERE THEY INVITED. I WORK FOR FIFA COMMUNICATIONS THERE WAS NO SUCH ACTION.

dude is it really necessary to write in caps?

[FIFAchamp]

ACTUALLY, MEXICO AND BRAZIL ARE VERY GOOD BUDDIES. THEY RESPECT EACH OTHERS' SOCCER. MEXICO RESPECTS BRAZIL CUZ THEY'RE BRAZIL. BRAZIL RESPECTS MEXICO CUZ' THEY'RE PROGRESSING EVERY DAY.
I'M BRAZILIAN,MEXICAN, AND LIVE IN USA. I GO FOR ALL OF THE TEAMS BUT THE TRUTH IS MEXICO AND USA ARE GREAT. RICOO, HAND OF GOD SHOW ME PROOF WHEN WERE THEY INVITED. I WORK FOR FIFA COMMUNICATIONS THERE WAS NO SUCH ACTION.


GOT 'EM!!! good post man

That is so true, MExican players , ppl everybody in that country likes to talk so much garbage, thats why in conmebol nobody likes them. What is it that makes them talk so much crap? is it all the spicy food or is it the beans? Mexico hasnt won crap and they never will.

everyone in that country? really? lol, u ***king dumb ass... only perhaps .000001% of all mexicans in the world think or fit the stereotype that u and handofgod have created. spicy food? wat... ur too much of a bitch ass chump to eat it? well i forgot, how old are u? 15 no? i guess ur not old enough to eat spicy foods yet. beans? ok so i guess u have never ate beans in ur life, and all the dishes served at "pollo inca" (a peruvian restaurant in the neighborhood) serves beans with everything, duhhhh i dunno y...


Let me enlighten you with this. Mexico sucks monkey balls. That's why they are too chicken s@$# to play South America in the world cup qualifyers. Last I checked, they haven't won a Copa Libertadores, Copa America or World Cup. The only reason they have a high ranking in Fifa is becuase they play in the freaking Concacaf. You can put Iraq in that division and they would qualify every time too. If they are so good why is it that their players always choke when they leave the country to play in Europe or in South America. I'll even give you examples; Luis Fernandez didn't do crap in Boca, Quaotemoc (however you spell his name) Blanco didn't do carp in Spain, Borgetti can't even get on the field. The only one doing halfway decent is Rafa Marquez. Their league is mediocre. It's the most boring league to watch. There is no way you can compare it to the best leagues in the world like Italy, Argentina, Spain and Brazil. As far as the comments go, what the hell do you want the coaches to say, Mexico sucks ass? I'm sure they are thinking that in their minds, but they have more class than to day that out loud. Maybe the Tri should stick to making tequila.

first off, u are a straight up hater, but u are worse than handofgod and ricoo0, u are one of those ignorant haters that don't really know anything and just talk out of their ass, at least the formentioned post good stuff from time to time and make more "believable" posts, unlike ur uncultured hater ass posts.

ne ways... too chicken to play in the conmebol? lol, u misinformed chump. y dont u take a stroll thru the other threads about mexico in the conmebol... then you'll see the REAL reasons as to y concacaf doesnt join conmebol. im not going to waist my time explaining it to you, but if you wanna culture urself and inform urself a little go n READ THEM.

n lastly, ok so hernandes and blanco didnt do well in argn. and spain (respectively) but to say that rafa is half way decent? oooookay, so i guess barcelona was only half way eager to extend his contract after this year, and since he's a starter i guess that makes barcelona a half way decent team, cuz of course only a half way decent player could START on a half way decent team, lol, dumbass.

and btw if i say ricoo9 is 15, then u sure as hell must be younger than that, cuz if a 15 year old can post up some decent (and some good) posts, and ur garbage ass posts cant even hold a candle to his, then u must surely be a dumb ass little 13 year old, no? cuz u surely couldnt be older and that stupid.

[ricoo9]

. I WORK FOR FIFA COMMUNICATIONS THERE WAS NO SUCH ACTION.

Oh yeah? and i'm the vice president of Brazil :lol: ;)

[ricoo9]

n lastly, ok so hernandes and blanco didnt do well in argn. and spain (respectively) but to say that rafa is half way decent? oooookay, so i guess barcelona was only half way eager to extend his contract after this year, and since he's a starter i guess that makes barcelona a half way decent team, cuz of course only a half way decent player could START on a half way decent team, lol, dumbass.

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I'll agree that Marquez is a good player, but players in his position r replaceable. They gave him a chance and he did good, but dont forgett Motta was the starter in that position till he got injured. If Marquez gets injured the same could happen to him.

[handofgod]

Let me enlighten you with this. Mexico sucks monkey balls. That's why they are too chicken s@$# to play South America in the world cup qualifyers. Last I checked, they haven't won a Copa Libertadores, Copa America or World Cup. The only reason they have a high ranking in Fifa is becuase they play in the freaking Concacaf. You can put Iraq in that division and they would qualify every time too. If they are so good why is it that their players always choke when they leave the country to play in Europe or in South America. I'll even give you examples; Luis Fernandez didn't do crap in Boca, Quaotemoc (however you spell his name) Blanco didn't do carp in Spain, Borgetti can't even get on the field. The only one doing halfway decent is Rafa Marquez. Their league is mediocre. It's the most boring league to watch. There is no way you can compare it to the best leagues in the world like Italy, Argentina, Spain and Brazil. As far as the comments go, what the hell do you want the coaches to say, Mexico sucks ass? I'm sure they are thinking that in their minds, but they have more class than to day that out loud. Maybe the Tri should stick to making tequila.:ronaldo:

Bravo!!! Dude you nailed them. BTW has anyone seen the burritos of mass destruction??!!

And they r calling hater?? Please, dont' mind those dudes, everything on your post it's nothing but true, except for Marquez perhaps, he's their only good export (I bet money I see a Hugo Sanchez comment popping up soon, watch!).

[handofgod]

YOU ARE SO RIGHT. IT'S OK TO SAY YOUR TEAM IS GOING TO WIN. BUT HAND OF GOD IS STUPID GOING AROUND POSTING STUPID $H!&. AND YOUR HIGH SCHOOL TEAM CAN'T BEAT IRAN YOU DUMBFACE. THEN, WHY AREN'T YOUR HIGH SCHOOL BUDDIES PLAYING FOR THEIR COUNTRY IN THE WC. EVERY TEAM IS IN THE WC FOR A REASON---- BECAUSE THEIR GOOD, REGARLESS OF ANGOLA,T&T,MEXICO,BRASILIA,ITALY OR JAPAN, THEY'RE THERE TO WIN OR AT LEAST TRY. WE DON'T NEED $H!&. FROM YOU HAND OF GOD.

...or because they play in Concaca where even Trinidad got a pass!!! I mean, WTF!!!! BTW seems u did not read I apolgized way ago to IranFan @ my high school team comment.

[handofgod]

ACTUALLY, MEXICO AND BRAZIL ARE VERY GOOD BUDDIES. THEY RESPECT EACH OTHERS' SOCCER. MEXICO RESPECTS BRAZIL CUZ THEY'RE BRAZIL. BRAZIL RESPECTS MEXICO CUZ' THEY'RE PROGRESSING EVERY DAY.
I'M BRAZILIAN,MEXICAN, AND LIVE IN USA. I GO FOR ALL OF THE TEAMS BUT THE TRUTH IS MEXICO AND USA ARE GREAT. RICOO, HAND OF GOD SHOW ME PROOF WHEN WERE THEY INVITED. I WORK FOR FIFA COMMUNICATIONS THERE WAS NO SUCH ACTION.

So u work for Fifa...see I guess that's why they rank Mexico, Brazil an the US so high!!! I'm American and not ashamed to say those ranking are a joke.

BTW I am a banker and do a lot of business with Brazil and let me tell you they don't give a sh** 'bout Mexican soccer, they all agree it's unwatchable.

[handofgod]

dude is it really necessary to write in caps?


Good one and he says he works for Fifa Communications?? He probably meant the video game.

[FIFAchamp]

omg, handofgod, u just came out of ur box huh? i guess u are not afraid of being seen as a hater anymore. ok so you say u hate how mexicans overrate their team and think that they're at brazil's level.... ok thats cool fine then... now tell me who are these ppl? quote them... because if that is the ONLY ppl u hate and ONLY for those reasons and CLAIM to have mexican FRIENDS, then surely u must not have a problem with any of us then right? because none of us here fit that stereo type that u set for ALL MEXICANS or MOST mexicans.... because u wont find a quote anywhere from me saying that "I THINK MEXICO IS BETTER THAN BRAZIL OR THAT MEXICO WILL SURELY POSITIVELY ABSOLUTELY WIN THE WORLD CUP" and the ppl that say THIS are the ppl u are truly against right? so then y do u bash all of us? and talk shit? huh? and get this STRAIGHT in ur ***KING head, we only talk shit back to the stupid ass shit that YOU SAY, cuz we dont start any missleading or provoking comments... so then if we dont fit that "description" that u have of MOST mexicans (but yet u are still the one who starts ALL of the hating, and most of the stupid shit here) wouldnt that mean that u truly are a HATER against MEXICANS, and HATE all MEXICANS? cuz i mean u always try to start shit with all of us here... but we dont fit the profile of the one's ur against... hmmmm thats an interesting FACT... wow, dude, and u say ur a banker?

im a psyc major, and from wat i see from you.... i think u live a stale social life... pretty much work-home, home-work.... and u like to give urself a sense of importance by coming in here and starting controversy... u want to be the center of attention huh? like to be sought after (even if its for the wrong reason) because u dont get that attention out there, outside of that box that ur computer sits in... u come in here and anxiously read all the posts that u can answer to and talk shit to and expect to be the topic of everyone else in here huh? im sure that wen most of us step away from the computer we go back to our LIVES, but i think u stay here (ur mind ne ways) i think u wait in eager anticipation to come back online and make urself feel important again... how pathetic... well if an audience was wat u were looking for, u found it... cuz u are the center of attention, even if its only because u are a hater and ppl here hate you... but uh.... dude im sorry... wat are u going to do after the world cup? wen there isnt much to talk about? wow, i just realized how pathetic u really are.

[BARCELONA4]

So u work for Fifa...see I guess that's why they rank Mexico, Brazil an the US so high!!! I'm American and not ashamed to say those ranking are a joke.

BTW I am a banker and do a lot of business with Brazil and let me tell you they don't give a sh** 'bout Mexican soccer, they all agree it's unwatchable.

HAND OF GOD AND RICOO ARE 2 homosexual GUYS LIKING CHOCLATE PUDDING OFF OF EACH OTHERS' FANNYS. I AM FROM FIFA THE REAL $hi&. AND MEXICO SHOULD BE SEEDED, BECUASE OF THEIR PAST GAMES. IF YOU DON'T LIKE OUR SYSTEM GO LICK RICOO'S FANNY OR WRITE A LETER TO FIFA.
(you talk too much):blabla: :blabla: :blabla:

[Mexico-9]

Yeah They Already Have Balls To Play Any Body And Beat Them Not By Luck But By There Skills That They Have . They Would Be Able To Be Any Body U Want Them To Face U Could Put Them Versus Ur Favorite Team And They Would Win.

[Mexico-9]

YEAH THEY ALREADY HAVE BALLS TO PLAY ANY BODY AND BEAT THEM NOT BY LUCK BUT BY THERE SKILLS THAT THEY HAVE . THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BE ANY BODY U WANT THEM TO FACE U COULD PUT THEM VERSUS UR FAVORITE TEAM AND THEY WOULD WIN.(YEAH AND YOU TALK TO MUCH $HI&):blabla: :blabla: :blabla: :blabla: :blabla:

[Phunk Phenom]

GOT 'EM!!! good post man



everyone in that country? really? lol, u ***king dumb ass... only perhaps .000001% of all mexicans in the world think or fit the stereotype that u and handofgod have created. spicy food? wat... ur too much of a bitch ass chump to eat it? well i forgot, how old are u? 15 no? i guess ur not old enough to eat spicy foods yet. beans? ok so i guess u have never ate beans in ur life, and all the dishes served at "pollo inca" (a peruvian restaurant in the neighborhood) serves beans with everything, duhhhh i dunno y...




first off, u are a straight up hater, but u are worse than handofgod and ricoo0, u are one of those ignorant haters that don't really know anything and just talk out of their ass, at least the formentioned post good stuff from time to time and make more "believable" posts, unlike ur uncultured hater ass posts.

ne ways... too chicken to play in the conmebol? lol, u misinformed chump. y dont u take a stroll thru the other threads about mexico in the conmebol... then you'll see the REAL reasons as to y concacaf doesnt join conmebol. im not going to waist my time explaining it to you, but if you wanna culture urself and inform urself a little go n READ THEM.

n lastly, ok so hernandes and blanco didnt do well in argn. and spain (respectively) but to say that rafa is half way decent? oooookay, so i guess barcelona was only half way eager to extend his contract after this year, and since he's a starter i guess that makes barcelona a half way decent team, cuz of course only a half way decent player could START on a half way decent team, lol, dumbass.

and btw if i say ricoo9 is 15, then u sure as hell must be younger than that, cuz if a 15 year old can post up some decent (and some good) posts, and ur garbage ass posts cant even hold a candle to his, then u must surely be a dumb ass little 13 year old, no? cuz u surely couldnt be older and that stupid.


Hey FifAchamp, want entertainment, look at your self in the mirror. I don't need to make a believer or everyone, I'm just tryong to get my point across just like everybody else in here. And by the way, I'm 12 numb nuts.

[Phunk Phenom]

omg, handofgod, u just came out of ur box huh? i guess u are not afraid of being seen as a hater anymore. ok so you say u hate how mexicans overrate their team and think that they're at brazil's level.... ok thats cool fine then... now tell me who are these ppl? quote them... because if that is the ONLY ppl u hate and ONLY for those reasons and CLAIM to have mexican FRIENDS, then surely u must not have a problem with any of us then right? because none of us here fit that stereo type that u set for ALL MEXICANS or MOST mexicans.... because u wont find a quote anywhere from me saying that "I THINK MEXICO IS BETTER THAN BRAZIL OR THAT MEXICO WILL SURELY POSITIVELY ABSOLUTELY WIN THE WORLD CUP" and the ppl that say THIS are the ppl u are truly against right? so then y do u bash all of us? and talk shit? huh? and get this STRAIGHT in ur ***KING head, we only talk shit back to the stupid ass shit that YOU SAY, cuz we dont start any missleading or provoking comments... so then if we dont fit that "description" that u have of MOST mexicans (but yet u are still the one who starts ALL of the hating, and most of the stupid shit here) wouldnt that mean that u truly are a HATER against MEXICANS, and HATE all MEXICANS? cuz i mean u always try to start shit with all of us here... but we dont fit the profile of the one's ur against... hmmmm thats an interesting FACT... wow, dude, and u say ur a banker?

im a psyc major, and from wat i see from you.... i think u live a stale social life... pretty much work-home, home-work.... and u like to give urself a sense of importance by coming in here and starting controversy... u want to be the center of attention huh? like to be sought after (even if its for the wrong reason) because u dont get that attention out there, outside of that box that ur computer sits in... u come in here and anxiously read all the posts that u can answer to and talk shit to and expect to be the topic of everyone else in here huh? im sure that wen most of us step away from the computer we go back to our LIVES, but i think u stay here (ur mind ne ways) i think u wait in eager anticipation to come back online and make urself feel important again... how pathetic... well if an audience was wat u were looking for, u found it... cuz u are the center of attention, even if its only because u are a hater and ppl here hate you... but uh.... dude im sorry... wat are u going to do after the world cup? wen there isnt much to talk about? wow, i just realized how pathetic u really are.



Dude, wtf do you think you are? Dr. Phil?

[FIFAchamp]

Hey FifAchamp, want entertainment, look at your self in the mirror. I don't need to make a believer or everyone, I'm just tryong to get my point across just like everybody else in here. And by the way, I'm 12 numb nuts.



lol, hmmmm... u did get ur point across... cuz i think everyone else thats not a HATER now knows that you are a dumb ass HATER, not just a regular hater, but an ignorant one at that, cuz u said a whole bunch of dumb shit that we have already discussed a WHILE back, and shit that we have already proven wrong, so if you're trying to bring them back its only because u NEED something to talk shit about... hey youngsta u probably are 12, cuz dude seriously out of everyone here, u came in with the dumbest shit (cuz it just came out of NOWHERE, and i bet most of us were just like "oooookay" wen we read ur "post"), and if you wanna talk about the shit that you posted, go back in time a few weeks and post it there, and if you cant do that, then just SHUT THE F*CK UP AND GO AWAY... or go do one of those "color by number" activities.

[FIFAchamp]

Dude, wtf do you think you are? Dr. Phil?


lol, omg... here we go again... dont tell me u are ALSO one of those clowns that twist ppl's words and "missinterpret" wat ppl really mean... well u are one of the dumber haters around here so i guess i shoulda seen this coming.

ne ways, go ahead and quote me where i say that im dr phil, bitch if i was doctor phil i woulda said i was dr phil, lol, how stupid of a comment is that... i guess u were just trying to be funny... so HAHAHA there u go. u got ur laughs, now go back to your "color-by-numbers"

[Phunk Phenom]

lol, omg... here we go again... dont tell me u are ALSO one of those clowns that twist ppl's words and "missinterpret" wat ppl really mean... well u are one of the dumber haters around here so i guess i shoulda seen this coming.

ne ways, go ahead and quote me where i say that im dr phil, bitch if i was doctor phil i woulda said i was dr phil, lol, how stupid of a comment is that... i guess u were just trying to be funny... so HAHAHA there u go. u got ur laughs, now go back to your "color-by-numbers"



Dude, you make me laugh. You're just a punk trying to use college lingo to sound smart. If you can't deal with the fact that people don't like the Mexican national team, though. Get the ***k over it slapnuts and stop whining. Every country is going to have it's critics. Like it or not. Stop crying byatch.

[handofgod]

HAND OF GOD AND RICOO ARE 2 homosexual GUYS LIKING CHOCLATE PUDDING OFF OF EACH OTHERS' FANNYS. I AM FROM FIFA THE REAL $hi&. AND MEXICO SHOULD BE SEEDED, BECUASE OF THEIR PAST GAMES. IF YOU DON'T LIKE OUR SYSTEM GO LICK RICOO'S FANNY OR WRITE A LETER TO FIFA.
(you talk too much):blabla: :blabla: :blabla:

hahaha, dude this sh** is funny. See I have a sense of humor, really fu** off, dude u r so lame. major in psych? who gives a rat's a**!!! I guess u r so successful u come to this forum and get all mad and sh**, very mature, like your comments. Sh**! I forget the psych major is Fifachimp, my bad, go back to suck his dick, shameless fags.

Speaking of mature comments , here's one for your intelectual self. All you "antihaters" Mexicans are a bunch of homos sticking spicy habanero hot burritos up your as***s!! BTW I forget u said u were the product of a 3-way? WTF?!!!

Fifa should be ashamed to have hired you, dumb as* who doen't know sh** about futebol and only knows about frejoladas with mole sauce.

[BARCELONA4]

hahaha, dude this sh** is funny. See I have a sense of humor, really fu** off, dude u r so lame. major in psych? who gives a rat's a**!!! I guess u r so successful u come to this forum and get all mad and sh**, very mature, like your comments. Sh**! I forget the psych major is Fifachimp, my bad, go back to suck his dick, shameless fags.

Speaking of mature comments , here's one for your intelectual self. All you "antihaters" Mexicans are a bunch of homos sticking spicy habanero hot burritos up your as***s!! BTW I forget u said u were the product of a 3-way? WTF?!!!

Fifa should be ashamed to have hired you, dumb as* who doen't know sh** about futebol and only knows about frejoladas with mole sauce.


REALLY FUNNY!!! ACTUALLY, I KNOW U MEAN NO HARM BY THAT BECAUSE I MEANT NO HARM BY MINE. HOW ABOUT TOMORROW AT 11AM U & ME CUM HERE AND HAVE A NICE ORDERED DISCUSSION OF FUTBOL.
p.s. i don't like mole:shocked:

[Mexico-9]

[QUOTE=BARCELONA4]REALLY FUNNY!!! ACTUALLY, I KNOW U MEAN NO HARM BY THAT BECAUSE I MEANT NO HARM BY MINE. HOW ABOUT TOMORROW AT 11AM U & ME CUM HERE AND HAVE A NICE ORDERED DISCUSSION OF FUTBOL.
p.s. i don't like mole:shocked

WHY YES SIR U ARE PART OF THE FIFA I HAVE SEEN U WORKING THERE, I HAVE SEEN UR WRITING AND IT IS ALL TRUE FROM THE BEGINING TO THE END. MEXICO COULD BEAT ANYONE FROM THE COMMEMBOL. OH AND HAND OF GOD AND RICOO'S ARE DATING.

[FIFAchamp]

phunk phenom is it? ne ways... there is a different between critics and haters, and u are a HATER, but u are worse than handofgod and ricoo9 cuz ur just an ignorant chump who is late on the comments... seriously bro, u killed it wen u came.


hey handofgod, how is being a psych major being successful? didnt u catch the part that said MAJOR?? meaning im a student studying to become some one, u said u are a banker... wat are u a teller? lol

[ricoo9]

Sorry Barcelona, they dont allow faggots into FIFA. :sad: :D and yea Ecuador beat Brazil, does that mean Ecuador is a Powerhouse? :rolleyes:

[Mexico-9]

Sorry Barcelona, they dont allow faggots into FIFA. :sad: :D and yea Ecuador beat Brazil, does that mean Ecuador is a Powerhouse? :rolleyes:

YEAH NO WONDER THEY DID NOT ALLOW U IN U FAGET AND BARCELONA 4 IS RIGHT U TALK TO MUCH $HI& AND STOP DATING HAND OF GOD:stop: :stop: :stop: :lol: :lol:

[ricoo9]

YEAH NO WONDER THEY DID NOT ALLOW U IN U FAGET AND BARCELONA 4 IS RIGHT U TALK TO MUCH $HI& AND STOP DATING HAND OF GOD:stop: :stop: :stop: :lol: :lol:

I think u need to lay off barcelonas nuts for a while son.:p

[FIFAchamp]

lol, omg dude wtf.. lol, ooooooooooo (this is only a test, im trying to have a dancing turtle as my signature, and i wanna see if its there)

[FIFAchamp]

wtf!!! u cant put moving images as your signature? ***k dude, the dancing turtle that i wanna put as my signature is bad ass, lol.. SHIT.

[tronxz28]

wtf!!! u cant put moving images as your signature? ***k dude, the dancing turtle that i wanna put as my signature is bad ass, lol.. SHIT.

maybe u can put it as ur avatar.

[BARCELONA4]

I think u need to lay off barcelonas nuts for a while son.:p


I THINK U NEED TO LAY OFF OF HANDOFGOD'S NUTS and your mama's nuts too, yeah the ones she also ***ked hand with

PS how was ur last date with handofgod

[FIFAchamp]

maybe u can put it as ur avatar.


naw dude, thats freakin weak, it keeps telling me that the pic is too big to be set as a signature... it says that it has to be 300 x 70 or something like that, but other ppl have a big ass pic as their signature, like that "the good, the bad, the ugly" signature, thats way bigger than the allowed dimensions.

do u know how i could put up the pic? ive given up on the dancing turtle tho...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/FIFAchamp/dancingturtle.gif

[tronxz28]

naw dude, thats freakin weak, it keeps telling me that the pic is too big to be set as a signature... it says that it has to be 300 x 70 or something like that, but other ppl have a big ass pic as their signature, like that "the good, the bad, the ugly" signature, thats way bigger than the allowed dimensions.

do u know how i could put up the pic? ive given up on the dancing turtle tho...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/FIFAchamp/dancingturtle.gif

jajajajaajajjaa no... sorry ... just keep trying I guess jaajajajj

[bernardo8]

SONIQ you are right. I'm sorry, I just get too involved. Iran has all of my respect. Do you know how many countires they had to overcome to the WC?

That is remarkable, tha same for African countries. However can you seriously tell me Mexico and the US deserve that cakewalk facing other countries that are simply not in the same level??

Mexico has a good team. I know that, but to have them seeded as a head of group must be an insult to others: Netherlands, Czech R, Portugal, South Korea, etc.

OMG, Iran had to overcome some of the best teams in the world to get to the world cup, hmm these include Bahrain, Laos, Jordan, Qatar, North Korea. Besides those teams they only faced Japan. So why do u just talk about concacaf, which really sucks besides Mexico and USA, the same thing happens for asia, the only good teams there are South Korea and Japan. I think that Iran is not at the level of those four teams. If u say concacaf sucks then the Asian confederation is much worse.

Everybody talks about why Trinidad and tobago is going to the WC if they suck, what about saudi arabia, they just go to get their asses kicked 8 0.
And about the teams seeded, dont blame mexico its the system that fifa used that put them there. Netherlands, didnt even qualify for 2002, neither did czech rep. and didnt qualify in 98, portugal got out on the third round and didnt qualify for france 98, korea well they did a good job getting to the semis, of course it wouldve been spain if it wasnt for the referees. and in 98they ended in last place in their group, which included mexico.

so overall, mexico has gotten better results than those teams on the past two WCs.

[FIFAchamp]

OMG, Iran had to overcome some of the best teams in the world to get to the world cup, hmm these include Bahrain, Laos, Jordan, Qatar, North Korea. Besides those teams they only faced Japan. So why do u just talk about concacaf, which really sucks besides Mexico and USA, the same thing happens for asia, the only good teams there are South Korea and Japan. I think that Iran is not at the level of those four teams. If u say concacaf sucks then the Asian confederation is much worse.

Everybody talks about why Trinidad and tobago is going to the WC if they suck, what about saudi arabia, they just go to get their asses kicked 8 0.
And about the teams seeded, dont blame mexico its the system that fifa used that put them there. Netherlands, didnt even qualify for 2002, neither did czech rep. and didnt qualify in 98, portugal got out on the third round and didnt qualify for france 98, korea well they did a good job getting to the semis, of course it wouldve been spain if it wasnt for the referees. and in 98they ended in last place in their group, which included mexico.

so overall, mexico has gotten better results than those teams on the past two WCs.


lol, GOT 'EM!!

its going to be interesting to see wat hater ass "central-american-in-denial aka handofgod aka handondeeznuts aka 40year-old-virgen" as to say about this. he is probably gonna come back with some racist stereotypical remark or he's probably going to twist your words in a hater effort to try to validate his point or to try to make himself look good or try to make you look like you are talking shit and he's the "victim" or something.... cuz thats wat he always does... hell, he's probably even going to bash me for talking with the truth, about how im this n that... lol, ne ways, dude good post! you arent bashing anybody, you are just stating some facts... but we'll just have to wait for the haters to come and hate :sad:


-btw none of you haters better have a change of heart and try to get on bernardo's nuts to try to disprove wat i just said, cuz one comment isnt gonna rid you clowns of HATER status. :lol:

[ricoo9]

lol, GOT 'EM!!

its going to be interesting to see wat hater ass "central-american-in-denial aka handofgod aka handondeeznuts aka 40year-old-virgen" as to say about this. he is probably gonna come back with some racist stereotypical remark or he's probably going to twist your words in a hater effort to try to validate his point or to try to make himself look good or try to make you look like you are talking shit and he's the "victim" or something.... cuz thats wat he always does... hell, he's probably even going to bash me for talking with the truth, about how im this n that... lol, ne ways, dude good post! you arent bashing anybody, you are just stating some facts... but we'll just have to wait for the haters to come and hate :sad:


-btw none of you haters better have a change of heart and try to get on bernardo's nuts to try to disprove wat i just said, cuz one comment isnt gonna rid you clowns of HATER status. :lol:

central american? whats wrong with central americans? their better than ur Mexican ass!!! :p

[FIFAchamp]

central american? whats wrong with central americans? their better than ur Mexican ass!!! :p


who said there was anything wrong wit central americans? OOOOOOOH i get it!!.... i now formally apologize to all the central americans for calling "handofgod aka 40yearoldvirgen aka handondeeznuts" a central american. i am truly sorry because i understand that it would be shameful and dissrespectful to all of the worlds nationalities to say that handofgod is a part of any such group of ppl.

-im glad u caught that ricoo9 :thumb:, good call you sorry ass ___:confused:___-an. the space is so that you can keep referring back to this post and fill in watever nationality that you feel like on that day.... u "team hopper" lol, SHEESH... :crazy:

[Phunk Phenom]

lol, omg... here we go again... dont tell me u are ALSO one of those clowns that twist ppl's words and "missinterpret" wat ppl really mean... well u are one of the dumber haters around here so i guess i shoulda seen this coming.

ne ways, go ahead and quote me where i say that im dr phil, bitch if i was doctor phil i woulda said i was dr phil, lol, how stupid of a comment is that... i guess u were just trying to be funny... so HAHAHA there u go. u got ur laughs, now go back to your "color-by-numbers"


Actually, I gonna go color black and white pictures of your mom. By the way, has anyone told you that you're a ***king homo, cause you are as gay as they come mother***ker.

[Albais#1]

He's probably a disgrunteled US fan who--like many-- is already thinking of excuses for why the almighty US can't advance out of a group that does not include the likes of T&T or Panama. It's ok we understand that you special peopel would be happy to be in a group with Togo or Saudi Arabia because you are so used to crushing third world countries that palying the likes of Italy or the Czech Republic makes you sh*t your pants with the actual games still half a year away. So sad.


AMEN TO THAT!:D

[Jackass88]

Alright ***k this shit, it seems that there are a lot of Mexico haters all around the world not just the city the world. Being hated by Iraq and shit, ***k this shit, Mexico is #1. All you ***k heads that think Brazil is a way better team then Mexico is full of shit. Brazil sucks now, the only good players in their team are Ronaldinho and Kaka. Sure all you fags may think that we got an easy group in the World Cup but your wrong, all those teams that made it to the World Cup are there because they are good. I think Mexico can go against any team, including all those shitty teams from Europe. Shit it's not our fault the FIFA ranked us high for being a bad ass team, so what we have not one a mojor tornament like the World Cup but who gives a rats ass, I think I have said what I had to say. Have a good day all you Mexico haters, Peace.

Mexico asta la muerte!!!!!!!! :mad2:

[unam_mx]

Alright ***k this shit, it seems that there are a lot of Mexico haters all around the world not just the city the world. Being hated by Iraq and shit, ***k this shit, Mexico is #1. All you ***k heads that think Brazil is a way better team then Mexico is full of shit. Brazil sucks now, the only good players in their team are Ronaldinho and Kaka. Sure all you fags may think that we got an easy group in the World Cup but your wrong, all those teams that made it to the World Cup are there because they are good. I think Mexico can go against any team, including all those shitty teams from Europe. Shit it's not our fault the FIFA ranked us high for being a bad ass team, so what we have not one a mojor tornament like the World Cup but gives a rats ass, I think I have said what I had to say. Have a good day all you Mexico haters, Peace.

Mexico asta la muerte!!!!!!!! :mad2:

This is is one guy...dont stereotype everyone cause of him.He's an agry dude lol, everytime I see him post he is steaming at someone who doesnt agree with him.He's sort of like ricoo in that sense.

[DuZCO]

Alright ***k this shit, it seems that there are a lot of Mexico haters all around the world not just the city the world. Being hated by Iraq and shit, ***k this shit, Mexico is #1. All you ***k heads that think Brazil is a way better team then Mexico is full of shit. Brazil sucks now, the only good players in their team are Ronaldinho and Kaka. Sure all you fags may think that we got an easy group in the World Cup but your wrong, all those teams that made it to the World Cup are there because they are good. I think Mexico can go against any team, including all those shitty teams from Europe. Shit it's not our fault the FIFA ranked us high for being a bad ass team, so what we have not one a mojor tornament like the World Cup but gives a rats ass, I think I have said what I had to say. Have a good day all you Mexico haters, Peace.

Mexico asta la muerte!!!!!!!! :mad2:

See ricoo. this is what happens when u provoke a Mexican. Sure he makes no sense saying Brasil sux and that Mexico is way better but, he was provoked!

U can't blame him for lashing out against all u haters. Haters provoke Mexicans into saying shit like this then ya'll criticize Mexicans for defending themselves when they say that the Mexican NT will kick all ur asses. And thats where haters get their fuel bc ya'll think that we think we are the best NT in the world when really were just trash talk'n back to all ya'll biatches!

Oh PS,
Viva Mexico cabrones! :rockon:

[DuZCO]

This is is one guy...dont stereotype everyone cause of him.He's an agry dude lol, everytime I see him post he is steaming at someone who doesnt agree with him.He's sort of like ricoo in that sense.
He's just defending himself unam. Provoked! P-R-O-V-O-K-E-D. Provoked!

[ricoo9]

Alright ***k this shit, it seems that there are a lot of Mexico haters all around the world not just the city the world. Being hated by Iraq and shit, ***k this shit, Mexico is #1. All you ***k heads that think Brazil is a way better team then Mexico is full of shit. Brazil sucks now, the only good players in their team are Ronaldinho and Kaka. Sure all you fags may think that we got an easy group in the World Cup but your wrong, all those teams that made it to the World Cup are there because they are good. I think Mexico can go against any team, including all those shitty teams from Europe. Shit it's not our fault the FIFA ranked us high for being a bad ass team, so what we have not one a mojor tornament like the World Cup but gives a rats ass, I think I have said what I had to say. Have a good day all you Mexico haters, Peace.

Mexico asta la muerte!!!!!!!! :mad2:

see what I mean? This guy is talking from his heart, thats how he really feels.... then u guys say mexicans dont talk shit... name me a brazilian guy that has insulted mexico? so saying Brazil sux is really gonna teach them haters right? :rolleyes: :lol:

[DuZCO]

see what I mean? This guy is talking from his heart, thats how he really feels.... then u guys say mexicans dont talk shit... name me a brazilian guy that has insulted mexico? so saying Brazil sux is really gonna offend the haters right? :rolleyes: :lol:

SEE WHAT I MEAN? :doh: now ur gonna stereotype Mexicans and say we all talk shit. :tsk:

[handofgod]

OMG, Iran had to overcome some of the best teams in the world to get to the world cup, hmm these include Bahrain, Laos, Jordan, Qatar, North Korea. Besides those teams they only faced Japan. So why do u just talk about concacaf, which really sucks besides Mexico and USA, the same thing happens for asia, the only good teams there are South Korea and Japan. I think that Iran is not at the level of those four teams. If u say concacaf sucks then the Asian confederation is much worse.

Everybody talks about why Trinidad and tobago is going to the WC if they suck, what about saudi arabia, they just go to get their asses kicked 8 0.
And about the teams seeded, dont blame mexico its the system that fifa used that put them there. Netherlands, didnt even qualify for 2002, neither did czech rep. and didnt qualify in 98, portugal got out on the third round and didnt qualify for france 98, korea well they did a good job getting to the semis, of course it wouldve been spain if it wasnt for the referees. and in 98they ended in last place in their group, which included mexico.

so overall, mexico has gotten better results than those teams on the past two WCs.


Excuses, excuses. I don't remember Mexico going as far as the semis like Korea did, and yes the refereeing was sort of f'd up but they played toe to toe w/Italy and Spain and ultimately good teams should overcome f'd calls. Yes the Asian region sucks and is not any worse than Concaca. I don't remember Iran qualifying before to the WC but it shows merit so do not talk sh** about them b/c not until recently that I had a chance to see them they were fairly impressive trashing Costa Rica -BTW they are Concaca-. Besides dind't Korea beat the crap out Mexico in LA!!! But I know, I know, you'll probably have another lame excuse why Mexico lost that game too. Probably they too many enchiladas or some sh** like that.

See ultimately these are just a bunch of lame excuses not to join Conmebol. If Mexico is sooo gooood now WTF r they su fu*** scared!!! :sad:

[BARCELONA4]

Excuses, excuses. I don't remember Mexico going as far as the semis like Korea did, and yes the refereeing was sort of f'd up but they played toe to toe w/Italy and Spain and ultimately good teams should overcome f'd calls. Yes the Asian region sucks and is not any worse than Concaca. I don't remember Iran qualifying before to the WC but it shows merit so do not talk sh** about them b/c not until recently that I had a chance to see them they were fairly impressive trashing Costa Rica -BTW they are Concaca-. Besides dind't Korea beat the crap out Mexico in LA!!! But I know, I know, you'll probably have another lame excuse why Mexico lost that game too. Probably they too many enchiladas or some sh** like that.

See ultimately these are just a bunch of lame excuses not to join Conmebol. If Mexico is sooo gooood now WTF r they su fu*** scared!!! :sad:



OK GET IT THRU ur head. mex didn't get invited to the CONMEBOL in fact mex asked the CONMEBOL to get in. besides U posted that the US and Mex were invited. so y aren't u talkin $h!t bout the US.:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

[man u rules]

mexico does suck they just act all that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Albais#1]

Alright ***k this shit, it seems that there are a lot of Mexico haters all around the world not just the city the world. Being hated by Iraq and shit, ***k this shit, Mexico is #1. All you ***k heads that think Brazil is a way better team then Mexico is full of shit. Brazil sucks now, the only good players in their team are Ronaldinho and Kaka. Sure all you fags may think that we got an easy group in the World Cup but your wrong, all those teams that made it to the World Cup are there because they are good. I think Mexico can go against any team, including all those shitty teams from Europe. Shit it's not our fault the FIFA ranked us high for being a bad ass team, so what we have not one a mojor tornament like the World Cup but who gives a rats ass, I think I have said what I had to say. Have a good day all you Mexico haters, Peace.

Mexico asta la muerte!!!!!!!! :mad2:


i love this guy!
speaks from within, true mexican right there and as for u
handofgod ***k off, mexico aint scared of no one so best watch ur mouth!:yell: :yell:

[Albais#1]

all ya'll who have the time to talk shit about stupid crap like this abviousely has no ***kin life, this topic is stupid cuz eveyone knows mexico is good
its u ***k heads that are in denial about the truth so back up off!
who are u to say they suck... nobody SO DO URSELF AND UR WHOLE EXSITENCE A FAVOR AND SHUT UP!

"Avoid the evil, and it will avoid thee."


http://www.thetshirtgame.com/proud_to_be_mexican_mexico_flag.gif

[Jackass88]

Hondofgod, you can suck my big ass cock, who gives a rats ass about the past, I could care less if Korea beat Mexico 1-0 or if Iran was good. Who gives a shit. Man u rules you are a ***ken fag you post like a bitch, how many posts have you made 13, ***k out my face bitch. I don't care if I get kicked off this site I am defending my culture. I now you hookers don't think this is over with I will be back, dam haters.

http://www.sumworld.com/library/images/120_fmf04_logo.gif

Mexico for life Cabrones!!!!!!!!! :director:

[handofgod]

OK GET IT THRU ur head. mex didn't get invited to the CONMEBOL in fact mex asked the CONMEBOL to get in. besides U posted that the US and Mex were invited. so y aren't u talkin $h!t bout the US.:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Well what can I say, u got me, so what I'm bias, all of you are a bit to some extension, I'm American and of course I want the US Team to win so what?!! At least I respect the fact u do not disrespect like Jackass8 or AlbaisMF, now they take this sh** to another total new low.

So for u two motherfu****s: First Jackass, if u r so Mexican get an fu**n Mexican handle like "Chingadoporelano" or "Burritoenmiculo", the same goes for u Albais MF.

BTW grow the **** up!! This is just a *****n chat and talk about teams no personal attacks. I respect the fact Mexican fans defend their team and say their team is good -although I don't agree they are WC Champ Material- but idiots like Jackass8 and Albais just fu** it up 4 u.

[FIFAchamp]

Actually, I gonna go color black and white pictures of your mom. By the way, has anyone told you that you're a ***king homo, cause you are as gay as they come mother***ker.


lol, ? ooookay.... dude ur replys come out of nowhere, late, and pointless... like ive said before... at least the other haters here make some sense once in a while and are much better at this than you... its obvious u just want to pick a fight... dude just go away... thats its ur done. :rip: "phunk phenom" "was seen as a WANNA BE HATER... unfortunately he fell short of such a feat, a disgrace to the rest of the haters out there"

[el chingon]

everybody should just ignore hand of god and ricoo........they just mad mexico is doing good in soccer.....they just want other people to think they're not.......and if mexico does bad i wouldnt be embarrased to say im mexican....ill say im mexican proudly........ ricoo first was saying he's peruvian....but now he's acting italian:boo:....i feel bad for peruvians:lol:

[FIFAchamp]

I don't remember Iran qualifying before to the WC but it shows merit so do not talk sh** about them b/c not until recently that I had a chance to see them they were fairly impressive trashing Costa Rica -BTW they are Concaca-.
so then constantly qualifiying to the world cup doesnt show merit or wat? so theres no merit in mexico qualifying consistently? brazil? argentina? france? germany? lol ooookay... theres only merit wen its ur first time? lol, dumb ass.

Besides dind't Korea beat the crap out Mexico in LA!!! But I know, I know, you'll probably have another lame excuse why Mexico lost that game too.

beat the crap out of mexico? lol, this proves that you are a hater. u probably werent even at the game. I WAS. and a lame EXCUSE? dude u are right about lame tho... cuz it was a lame ass REASON y they lost. cuz mexico lost over a very stupid reason... oswaldo ***ked up... but hell at least it wasnt a WC game. and yes korea played better, but check this out, even tho korea played better than mexico it still wouldnt have been enough to beat mexico without that LAME ASS REASON.

btw 1-0 means beating the crap out of a team? so i guess mexico beat the crap out of ghana then right? lol, but thats not wat u haters said about the game.. OHH!! GOT 'EM!!

Probably they too many enchiladas or some sh** like that.

blah blah blah more of this ignorant racist talk from the sites number #1 hater.

See ultimately these are just a bunch of lame excuses not to join Conmebol. If Mexico is sooo gooood now WTF r they su fu*** scared!!! :sad:

lol, are u that ignorant? even after all those posts that proved this "belief" of your's wrong? u still say that? lol, dude.... watever man, just go read all those posts to get ur answer to this quote of yours, theres plenty of them so you shouldnt have a hard time finding one.

[Mexico-9]

I think u need to lay off barcelonas nuts for a while son.:p

FIRST OF ALL YOU ARE AHOMOSEXUAL THAT LIKES TO CHOKE ON HAND OF GODS BALLS AND UR MAMA TO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Mexico-9]

So u work for Fifa...see I guess that's why they rank Mexico, Brazil an the US so high!!! I'm American and not ashamed to say those ranking are a joke.

BTW I am a banker and do a lot of business with Brazil and let me tell you they don't give a sh** 'bout Mexican soccer, they all agree it's unwatchable.

WHO GIVES A F***K WHAT U WORK IN ALL I KNOW IS THAT MEXICO CAN WIN EVERY BODY FROM THE COMMENBOL THAT INCLUDES UR CHEAP TEAM F*G*T:lol: :lol: :lol: ;) ;) OH AND THIS IS HOW U AND RICOO'S LOOK:wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :sick: :sick: :yuck: :yuck:

[Mexico-9]

OK GET IT THRU ur head. mex didn't get invited to the CONMEBOL in fact mex asked the CONMEBOL to get in. besides U posted that the US and Mex were invited. so y aren't u talkin $h!t bout the US.:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

I KNOW HAND OF GOD AND RICOO SUCK THEY TALK TO MUCH AND DON'T KNOW NOTHING ANY WAYS MEXICO PROBABLY WOULD NOT ENTER THE COMMENBOL BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE NO COMPETITION:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ;) ;) ;)

[Mexico-9]

mexico does suck they just act all that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SHUT UP YOU MEXICO HATER U DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT U ARE TALKING ABOUT. JUST SHUT UP YOU FAG:stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: OH UR LAME:boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo:

[Mexico-9]

I think u need to lay off barcelonas nuts for a while son.:p

I THINK U SHOULD LAY OFF FROM HAND OF GODS BALLS CAUSE THATS NASTY SON AND STOP CHOKING ON UR MAMAS TO OK:lol: :lol: :stop: :stop: :stop:

[Iranfan06]

Originally Posted by bernardo8
OMG, Iran had to overcome some of the best teams in the world to get to the world cup, hmm these include Bahrain, Laos, Jordan, Qatar, North Korea. Besides those teams they only faced Japan. So why do u just talk about concacaf, which really sucks besides Mexico and USA, the same thing happens for asia, the only good teams there are South Korea and Japan. I think that Iran is not at the level of those four teams. If u say concacaf sucks then the Asian confederation is much worse.

that just shows how much you know about iran. Iran is the best team in Asia, and Japan is the only one that comes even close.

[ricoo9]

I THINK U SHOULD LAY OFF FROM HAND OF GODS BALLS CAUSE THATS NASTY SON AND STOP CHOKING ON UR MAMAS TO OK:lol: :lol: :stop: :stop: :stop:

WOW ur so original!! :clap2: why dont u copy and paste something else from ur boyfriend Barcelona. ;) :lol:

[ricoo9]

everybody should just ignore hand of god and ricoo........they just mad mexico is doing good in soccer.....they just want other people to think they're not.......and if mexico does bad i wouldnt be embarrased to say im mexican....ill say im mexican proudly........ ricoo first was saying he's peruvian....but now he's acting italian:boo:....i feel bad for peruvians:lol:

nah dude, look at paraguay, theyve been doing good for 12 years now, why isnt anybody hating on them? u guys should learn to be a little more humble, U guys been thinking ur like 3rd best team in america since I can remember like maybe 94, its 2006 now thats 12 years bud.... u guys aint at Argentinas level and probably never will either, I will admit though that u guys r finally doing better, I would say this is the best team u guys have ever had but its still not better than Paraguay or Uruguay.

[Jackass88]

nah dude, look at paraguay, theyve been doing good for 12 years now, why isnt anybody hating on them? u guys should learn to be a little more humble, U guys been thinking ur like 3rd best team in america since I can remember like maybe 94, its 2006 now thats 12 years bud.... u guys aint at Argentinas level and probably never will either, I will admit though that u guys r finally doing better, I would say this is the best team u guys have ever had but its still not better than Paraguay or Uruguay.

Mada***ker, if you say that Uruguay is better then Mexico the why didn't Uruguay make it to the World Cup, yeah that is what I thought you little bitch, you don't even know what you are talking about!!!!!

P.S. ricoo9 is a ***ken bitch!!!

Mexico for life!!!!!! :smoking:

[ricoo9]

Mada***ker, if you say that Uruguay is better then Mexico the why didn't Uruguay make it to the World Cup, yeah that is what I thought you little bitch, you don't even know what you are talking about!!!!!

P.S. ricoo9 is a ***ken bitch!!!

Mexico for life!!!!!! :smoking:

hey asswipe, tell me who Mexico beat to go to the cup... oh yeah i forgot!! Great teams like Dominica, St croix, Guatemala, honduras ..:lol: obviously its u that doesnt know shit;)

[Albais#1]

what he ***k is wrong with guatemala bitch? huh? IAM 1/2 guatemalan pussy
best watch ur mouth!

[ricoo9]

what he ***k is wrong with guatemala bitch? huh? IAM 1/2 guatemalan pussy
best watch ur mouth!

the only problem with guatemala is that they suck big monkey balls.:eek:

[Albais#1]

***k u bitch! stop being a pussy and attcking every team first mexico now guatemala ***k off seriousely ***k off!

[Jackass88]

Hell no ricoo9, your are hatting on my people you little bitch, why don't you and handofgod go and suck on your mamas big ass cock little bitches, don't be hating becuse you are not Hispanic you ***ken fag, and like I said to handogod who gives a shit about the past, so what if Mexico has not one a big tornament, ricoo9 you are a fag and you can suck my dick you uncle***ker!!!!!!! Peace in the Middle East Bitch. :nono:

Mexico and Guatemala For Life Pussies!!!! :yell:

[Phunk Phenom]

lol, ? ooookay.... dude ur replys come out of nowhere, late, and pointless... like ive said before... at least the other haters here make some sense once in a while and are much better at this than you... its obvious u just want to pick a fight... dude just go away... thats its ur done. :rip: "phunk phenom" "was seen as a WANNA BE HATER... unfortunately he fell short of such a feat, a disgrace to the rest of the haters out there"



That's very creative.....by the way...you're still a pussy.

[FIFAchamp]

That's very creative.....by the way...you're still a pussy.


hey everyone it appears that i have a GROUPIE!!!! this clown seems to only look and respond to my posts... HOLD MY SHIRT BITCH! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


ne ways, i'd be happy to have a groupie but i think i know who this is... ricoo9? :lol: or handofgod? :lol: naw i think its ricoo9 cuz he seems to post around the same time ricoo9 does... pitiful.


so i guess i dont have a REAL groupie :sad:

[Mexico-9]

WOW ur so original!! :clap2: why dont u copy and paste something else from ur boyfriend Barcelona. ;) :lol:\

THE ONLY ONE I HAVE BEEN COPY AND PASTING IS UR HUSBANDS SON OH YEAH WITCH ONE U HAVE 2 UR MOM AND HAND OF GOD OH YEAH HAND OF GOD HE LIKES UR MOM ;) ;) ;)

[ricoo9]

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THE ONLY ONE I HAVE BEEN COPY AND PASTING IS UR HUSBANDS SON OH YEAH WITCH ONE U HAVE 2 UR MOM AND HAND OF GOD OH YEAH HAND OF GOD HE LIKES UR MOM ;) ;) ;)

somebody needs hooked on phonics :lol: :lol: :lol: I have no Idea wtf ur saying, uh ur mom is ur brother sister father banana nuts hahahahaha:lol:

[el chingon]

somebody needs hooked on phonics :lol: :lol: :lol: I have no Idea wtf ur saying, uh ur mom is ur brother sister father banana nuts hahahahaha:lol:

:lol: this is one thing i agree with you....i couldnt understand what he was saying either:lol:

[Mexico-9]

somebody needs hooked on phonics :lol: :lol: :lol: I have no Idea wtf ur saying, uh ur mom is ur brother sister father banana nuts hahahahaha:lol:

JUST JUST SHUT UP:stop: :stop: YOU SOUND STUPID AND GAY AND STOP HATING ON MEXICO CAUSE THERE BETTER THAN UR COMMENBOL TEAMS.:smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Phunk Phenom]

hey everyone it appears that i have a GROUPIE!!!! this clown seems to only look and respond to my posts... HOLD MY SHIRT BITCH! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


ne ways, i'd be happy to have a groupie but i think i know who this is... ricoo9? :lol: or handofgod? :lol: naw i think its ricoo9 cuz he seems to post around the same time ricoo9 does... pitiful.


so i guess i dont have a REAL groupie :sad:



You can hold deez nuts byatch!!!! I'm nobody's groupie. I respond to your posts because you respond back dumbass.

[Phunk Phenom]

Hell no ricoo9, your are hatting on my people you little bitch, why don't you and handofgod go and suck on your mamas big ass cock little bitches, don't be hating becuse you are not Hispanic you ***ken fag, and like I said to handogod who gives a shit about the past, so what if Mexico has not one a big tornament, ricoo9 you are a fag and you can suck my dick you uncle***ker!!!!!!! Peace in the Middle East Bitch. :nono:

Mexico and Guatemala For Life Pussies!!!! :yell:


Dude, your name suites you well, Jackass. You think anybody who talks about Mexico can't be hispanic too? Freaking retard.

[FIFAchamp]

Dude, your name suites you well, Jackass. You think anybody who talks about Mexico can't be hispanic too? Freaking retard.


ricoo9 defend yourself with your own screen name, not with this one :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and this guy is only defending himself...

[ricoo9]

ricoo9 defend yourself with your own screen name, not with this one :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and this guy is only defending himself...

I guess i'm HandofGod and Punkguy as well? lol u dont know what to come up with anymore, lame :p just accept it Mexico sux donkey nuts :lol:

[handofgod]

I guess i'm HandofGod and Punkguy as well? lol u dont know what to come up with anymore, lame :p just accept it Mexico sux donkey nuts :lol:

Amen to that dude!! Yeah I guess u r me or I'm u Ricoo9, WTF!!! Isn't this Fifachamp dude the one who analyzes of our supposed psyches based on what we post, etc, etc. to determine how we r and sh**. Get a life and hit your books loser. Dude I bet u flunked all our sh**!!! At least Barcelona4 know we all r busting balls here, u fu*** dumbass!

BTW isn't Fifachamp the same dude named "Ilikepenisupmyhole" or "Nutslicker" ??? Just a thought, see by looking at your posts anyone can cleraly determine you r a fag!!! :smoking:

Ricoo9 aka handofgod aka Punkguy aka InailedFifachamp'smom

[FIFAchamp]

Amen to that dude!! Yeah I guess u r me or I'm u Ricoo9, WTF!!! Isn't this Fifachamp dude the one who analyzes of our supposed psyches based on what we post, etc, etc. to determine how we r and sh**. Get a life and hit your books loser. Dude I bet u flunked all our sh**!!! At least Barcelona4 know we all r busting balls here, u fu*** dumbass!

BTW isn't Fifachamp the same dude named "Ilikepenisupmyhole" or "Nutslicker" ??? Just a thought, see by looking at your posts anyone can cleraly determine you r a fag!!! :smoking:

Ricoo9 aka handofgod aka Punkguy aka InailedFifachamp'smom


plural? lol, naw dude, just you, not ricoo9 cuz you are the only one that causes sadness around here.... seriously tho.... YOU (not any one else) must be some over-weight loner/loser wit no life....:lol: :lol: :lol:

[FIFAchamp]

I guess i'm HandofGod and Punkguy as well? lol u dont know what to come up with anymore, lame :p just accept it Mexico sux donkey nuts :lol:


naw dude.... just that one guy thats my groupie... lol.... havent u been accused of this before? lol, and then all of a sudden those "ppl" disappear right after youve been discovered? lol.... lame? oh yeah!! peru, italy, or where ever the f*ck u think you're from suck donkey balls!!!!! :lol: :lol: :rofl:

[Jackass88]

Dude, your name suites you well, Jackass. You think anybody who talks about Mexico can't be hispanic too? Freaking retard.

***k you you little bastard, suck monkey balls you little bitch the only reason I said that is because I wanted to, were I live it's a free country you little bitch, I don't like other fags that I don't know talking shit about my raza bitch so don't get in to stuff that does not concern you ***ken ass licker!!!!!!!!

Mexico For Life bitches!!! :boxing:

[Jackass88]

Suck

[Jackass88]

My

[Jackass88]

Dick

[Jackass88]

Phunk Phenom

[Phunk Phenom]

***k you you little bastard, suck monkey balls you little bitch the only reason I said that is because I wanted to, were I live it's a free country you little bitch, I don't like other fags that I don't know talking shit about my raza bitch so don't get in to stuff that does not concern you ***ken ass licker!!!!!!!!

Mexico For Life bitches!!! :boxing:



Dude, your "raza" can kiss my ass you stupid dumbf**k. Go back to Chihuahua or where ever the f**k you came from and shove a burrito up your ass! Orale vato !!!! Don't get mad cause the truth hurts. :D

South America rules !!!!

[Jackass88]

***k you Phunk Phenom, you should go back to Brazil and wrestle some alligators in the ***ken Amazon you little bitch, go with your little tribe and suck Ronaldinho's cock, you ***ken fagget, shit you think you can get away with this well no. South America sucks monkey balls.

North and Central America For Life!!!!!!! :mad2:

[el chingon]

***k you Phunk Phenom, you should go back to Brazil and wrestle some alligators in the ***ken Amazon you little bitch, go with your little tribe and suck Ronaldinho's cock, you ***ken fagget, shit you think you can get away with this well no. South America sucks monkey balls.

North and Central America For Life!!!!!!! :mad2:


hahahaha:lol: :lol:

[Shahbaz]

MEXICO RULES
Lots of people will be pleasantly surprised when Mexico roles through

[ricoo9]

MEXICO RULES
Lots of people will be pleasantly surprised when Mexico roles through

yeah, they will be the next champions:D

[Shahbaz]

yeah, they will be the next champions:D
They have chance like anybody.

[handofgod]

They have chance like anybody.


Yeah, and next WC they will win too!!! In fact Mexico will win all the Cups, I'll say Mexico has the same "chance" like Brazil, Germany, Italy, etc, right?

[handofgod]

Yeah, and next WC they will win too!!! In fact Mexico will win all the Cups, I'll say Mexico has the same "chance" like Brazil, Germany, Italy, etc, right?


Hahahahahahhahaahhahahhahahhahahhaha!!!!!!!

[handofgod]

***k you Phunk Phenom, you should go back to Brazil and wrestle some alligators in the ***ken Amazon you little bitch, go with your little tribe and suck Ronaldinho's cock, you ***ken fagget, shit you think you can get away with this well no. South America sucks monkey balls.

North and Central America For Life!!!!!!! :mad2:

Why r u offending people from Brazil??!!!! Do u know if this guy is Brazilian? No u don't know.
See this is the kind of shi* that makes other people talk shi* about Mexico. Totally unnecessary.

[el chingon]

Why r u offending people from Brazil??!!!! Do u know if this guy is Brazilian? No u don't know.
See this is the kind of shi* that makes other people talk shi* about Mexico. Totally unnecessary.
you started talking bad about mexico

[el chingon]

Yeah, and next WC they will win too!!! In fact Mexico will win all the Cups, I'll say Mexico has the same "chance" like Brazil, Germany, Italy, etc, right?
they might not have as much chance as germnay ,italy, england, argentina but mexico has a better chance then most teams

[FIFAchamp]

Yeah, and next WC they will win too!!! In fact Mexico will win all the Cups, I'll say Mexico has the same "chance" like Brazil, Germany, Italy, etc, right?

y are u being all sarcastic n shit? dont give me this "busting balls crap" cuz with that same coin you could say that jackass88 is ALSO JUST busting balls, but you try to give him this bs that thats y ppl talk shit about mexicans.... dude look at ur comments.... lol, all u do is provoke ppl to talk shit about YOU.

Why r u offending people from Brazil??!!!! Do u know if this guy is Brazilian? No u don't know.
See this is the kind of shi* that makes other people talk shi* about Mexico. Totally unnecessary.

Why r u offending people from MEXICO??!!!! Do u know if this guy is IS JUST BUSTING BALLS LIKE YOU "LIKE" TO DO? No u don't know.
See this is the kind of shi* that makes other people talk shi* about YOU AND CALL YOU A HATER "HANDOFGOD" . Totally unnecessary.

did u recognize this post? it ur same post, i just replaced certain words to PROVE my point. and notice how now im not "talking shit about you" cuz most likely im going to get a reply from you saying "go suck this... you f*cking this n that" lol, dude, this just proves the double standard that u use not only with the MEXICAN NT, but now with other ppl in this post that arent doing anything more or worse than wat you are ALREADY DOING. the next time you quote urself (like you did up above) make sure you CORRECT yourself instead, much how ive corrected you now.

[ricoo9]

y are u being all sarcastic n shit? dont give me this "busting balls crap" cuz with that same coin you could say that jackass88 is ALSO JUST busting balls, but you try to give him this bs that thats y ppl talk shit about mexicans.... dude look at ur comments.... lol, all u do is provoke ppl to talk shit about YOU.



Why r u offending people from MEXICO??!!!! Do u know if this guy is IS JUST BUSTING BALLS LIKE YOU "LIKE" TO DO? No u don't know.
See this is the kind of shi* that makes other people talk shi* about YOU AND CALL YOU A HATER "HANDOFGOD" . Totally unnecessary.

did u recognize this post? it ur same post, i just replaced certain words to PROVE my point. and notice how now im not "talking shit about you" cuz most likely im going to get a reply from you saying "go suck this... you f*cking this n that" lol, dude, this just proves the double standard that u use not only with the MEXICAN NT, but now with other ppl in this post that arent doing anything more or worse than wat you are ALREADY DOING. the next time you quote urself (like you did up above) make sure you CORRECT yourself instead, much how ive corrected you now.

Bad example. Handofgod is just busting balls and only on mexicans while this mexican dude is dissing brazilians...:faint2: for what reason?... i dont know. lol its like me dissing u and u start insultin africans haha:lol: anyway i think his name suits him well, jackass.;)

[Albais#1]

hey everyone has the right to an opinion!
if someone doesnt like mexico they have the right to their opinion but theres a certain limiy u must reach before ur being an ass!

[creampuff88]

i think brazil sucks ass and mexico will win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so ricoo9 deal with it!!

[FIFAchamp]

Bad example. Handofgod is just busting balls and only on mexicans while this mexican dude is dissing brazilians...:faint2: for what reason?... i dont know. lol its like me dissing u and u start insultin africans haha:lol: anyway i think his name suits him well, jackass.;)

naw actually its a good example. so i guess you are the official organization that certifies that handofgod is "busting balls" (that sounds gay by the way :lol:) while jackass and others dont bust balls? :rofl:

so its ok that handofgod's "ballbusting" (lol) is ONLY ON MEXICANS? and its bad that jackass disses brazilians? so wat makes brazilians immune from ball busting? naw, dude, handofgod messed up again... much how he messed up by givin me all this bs about an example i gave you in another thread. its a double standard dude, so if handofgod is going to diss mexicans then he should handle other ppl dissing other ppl (where he in no way fits in the argument anyways) cuz i mean, its only "busting balls" lol....

but btw... based on wat jackass has posted in that FIFA game thread, yes i do agree that his name suits him well.... lol, but anyways dude, watever.

[handofgod]

naw actually its a good example. so i guess you are the official organization that certifies that handofgod is "busting balls" (that sounds gay by the way :lol:) while jackass and others dont bust balls? :rofl:

so its ok that handofgod's "ballbusting" (lol) is ONLY ON MEXICANS? and its bad that jackass disses brazilians? so wat makes brazilians immune from ball busting? naw, dude, handofgod messed up again... much how he messed up by givin me all this bs about an example i gave you in another thread. its a double standard dude, so if handofgod is going to diss mexicans then he should handle other ppl dissing other ppl (where he in no way fits in the argument anyways) cuz i mean, its only "busting balls" lol....

but btw... based on wat jackass has posted in that FIFA game thread, yes i do agree that his name suits him well.... lol, but anyways dude, watever.


Everything to u sounds gay!!! Why don't u better check that broom stick u have in ur ass right now dumb fu**.

[FIFAchamp]

Everything to u sounds gay!!! Why don't u better check that broom stick u have in ur ass right now dumb fu**.


:rofl: zzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzZZZzzzzzzzzzzz........

[Jackass88]

Handofgod Sucks Big Cock!!!!!!!

[SE7E]

Mexicans are cool, and their NT improved a lot lately.

[Albais#1]

handofgod the only one with a broom stuck up his ass is you pumpkin
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[Captain Tsubasa]

:star: :star: :star: :star: :star: FU.K u guys still talking shit wow how low. Think about if Brazileros would spend their days posting hateful shit about other teams in the internet......Do u know how much shit they could write???????, Look ===> Argentina is history their glory was 1986 where is Argentina now? that was 20 years ago, same with Italy this guys haven't show their greatness for yeeears all they have is their reputation or what about England, legendary UK has been away from raising the World Cup for over 50 years? Ah what about Spain(national team) and their spectacular league when are they going to at least win a cup to back their legacy?? RICOO you have to live to the PRESENT and the FUTURE and if because your grandpa tells you the tales of those great nations that dominated the Futbol scene this past century you think that u are an expert man sorry but you are so behind. From the past 20 years to date, has been the era where North America, Africa and Asia had caught up with the world's best so dam stop the hate RICOO if your country Peru didnt even come close to quilify is on you guys you're still in the prcess of evolution and fuk don't try to blame it on the high competitive CONMEBOL because Paraguay, Uruguay, Ecuador, Chile and colombia had same equal oportunities as you guys and if you think that 2 tickets to the WC are impossible to achieve there are still 2 more to fight for. RICOO please please don't fuking degrade the CONCACAF beacuse just the fact that you say that Mexico has it easy you already admitting that Mexico is the greatest, thats wrong the greatest in CONCACAF now a days is the U.S and check this out, teams like Costa Rica, U.S, Honduras and T.T are rated higher than Peru in the FIFA's clasification system does this tells you anything? RICOO my friend don't claim that you are part Italian I can't not think of the product of a short Peruvian mixed with an Anglo-Italiano but if u feel love for the shirt I respect that. You dont have the right to be going around from post to post busting balls and provocating people, if your hobbie is to discuss the performance of other nations it's fine as longer you do it with respect.:hand: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:

[Captain Tsubasa]

Sorry for the big font, I'm a newe on this post. Peace out guys and get your coolers ready for the big Fiesta. My question is who do you think that have a good chance on this WC??

I say Germany since they are the hosts
Brazil cause they are the greatest they keep proving it every year
Than the Checs man are they powerful lately wow
Holand cause look at their rooster its almost unfair for the rest
finally Argentina, Japan, England, Mexico, Italy and the US

[FIFAchamp]

:star: :star: :star: :star: :star: FU.K u guys still talking shit wow how low. Think about if Brazileros would spend their days posting hateful shit about other teams in the internet......Do u know how much shit they could write???????, Look ===> Argentina is history their glory was 1986 where is Argentina now? that was 20 years ago, same with Italy this guys haven't show their greatness for yeeears all they have is their reputation or what about England, legendary UK has been away from raising the World Cup for over 50 years? Ah what about Spain(national team) and their spectacular league when are they going to at least win a cup to back their legacy?? RICOO you have to live to the PRESENT and the FUTURE and if because your grandpa tells you the tales of those great nations that dominated the Futbol scene this past century you think that u are an expert man sorry but you are so behind. From the past 20 years to date, has been the era where North America, Africa and Asia had caught up with the world's best so dam stop the hate RICOO if your country Peru didnt even come close to quilify is on you guys you're still in the prcess of evolution and fuk don't try to blame it on the high competitive CONMEBOL because Paraguay, Uruguay, Ecuador, Chile and colombia had same equal oportunities as you guys and if you think that 2 tickets to the WC are impossible to achieve there are still 2 more to fight for. RICOO please please don't fuking degrade the CONCACAF beacuse just the fact that you say that Mexico has it easy you already admitting that Mexico is the greatest, thats wrong the greatest in CONCACAF now a days is the U.S and check this out, teams like Costa Rica, U.S, Honduras and T.T are rated higher than Peru in the FIFA's clasification system does this tells you anything? RICOO my friend don't claim that you are part Italian I can't not think of the product of a short Peruvian mixed with an Anglo-Italiano but if u feel love for the shirt I respect that. You dont have the right to be going around from post to post busting balls and provocating people, if your hobbie is to discuss the performance of other nations it's fine as longer you do it with respect.:hand: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:


goddezzyyyy breeezyyy..... OUCH. ricoo a reply to this post would really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really be useless.... he completely anialated you.... OUCH.

[handofgod]

:star: :star: :star: :star: :star: FU.K u guys still talking shit wow how low. Think about if Brazileros would spend their days posting hateful shit about other teams in the internet......Do u know how much shit they could write???????, Look ===> Argentina is history their glory was 1986 where is Argentina now? that was 20 years ago, same with Italy this guys haven't show their greatness for yeeears all they have is their reputation or what about England, legendary UK has been away from raising the World Cup for over 50 years? Ah what about Spain(national team) and their spectacular league when are they going to at least win a cup to back their legacy?? RICOO you have to live to the PRESENT and the FUTURE and if because your grandpa tells you the tales of those great nations that dominated the Futbol scene this past century you think that u are an expert man sorry but you are so behind. From the past 20 years to date, has been the era where North America, Africa and Asia had caught up with the world's best so dam stop the hate RICOO if your country Peru didnt even come close to quilify is on you guys you're still in the prcess of evolution and fuk don't try to blame it on the high competitive CONMEBOL because Paraguay, Uruguay, Ecuador, Chile and colombia had same equal oportunities as you guys and if you think that 2 tickets to the WC are impossible to achieve there are still 2 more to fight for. RICOO please please don't fuking degrade the CONCACAF beacuse just the fact that you say that Mexico has it easy you already admitting that Mexico is the greatest, thats wrong the greatest in CONCACAF now a days is the U.S and check this out, teams like Costa Rica, U.S, Honduras and T.T are rated higher than Peru in the FIFA's clasification system does this tells you anything? RICOO my friend don't claim that you are part Italian I can't not think of the product of a short Peruvian mixed with an Anglo-Italiano but if u feel love for the shirt I respect that. You dont have the right to be going around from post to post busting balls and provocating people, if your hobbie is to discuss the performance of other nations it's fine as longer you do it with respect.:hand: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:

No way Fifachamp, allow me first: Dear Captain Tsuputa: ***k off!! U obviously do not know shit @ soccer. You are the first idiot here to even respect the Fifa rankings. Those rankings are what they r: Garbish, trash, I just went to the ***king bathroom took the biggest dump ever and wiped my ass with those ***kin rankings.

Dude, I'm American and even though I love the fact to see the US up there in those rankings I know they're full of shit. Anf WTF is all that nonsense about Argentina, England, Spain and Italy!!! Shut the ***k up!!!! Do u really think there would even be a WC w/o those countries. Dude CONCACAf sucks donkey nuts, there's is not comparison w/Conmebol, yes Mexico and the US would have qualified IMO even if they played the qualifiers in Conmebol but don't tell me u think CONCACA is even remotely close to Conmebol, that shows your ***king ignorance retard, where TF r u from, CR or something? BTW Brazileros do post negative comments about Mexico when they see ridiculous posts implying Mexico is better cuz they beat them at the Whogivesashit Confederations Cup, or the Iwipemyasswith Gold Cup.

This is the worst and most ill-informed crap I've seen posted here. Congratu***kinglations, u r :first: don'tknowshitaboutsoccer dumbass numero uno.

[jesuslomas15]

well that retard aint posting around here in a long time u f@ucken turd go watch some soccer and then post

[ricoo9]

:star: :star: :star: :star: :star: FU.K u guys still talking shit wow how low. Think about if Brazileros would spend their days posting hateful shit about other teams in the internet......Do u know how much shit they could write???????, Look ===> Argentina is history their glory was 1986 where is Argentina now? that was 20 years ago, same with Italy this guys haven't show their greatness for yeeears all they have is their reputation or what about England, legendary UK has been away from raising the World Cup for over 50 years? Ah what about Spain(national team) and their spectacular league when are they going to at least win a cup to back their legacy?? RICOO you have to live to the PRESENT and the FUTURE and if because your grandpa tells you the tales of those great nations that dominated the Futbol scene this past century you think that u are an expert man sorry but you are so behind. From the past 20 years to date, has been the era where North America, Africa and Asia had caught up with the world's best so dam stop the hate RICOO if your country Peru didnt even come close to quilify is on you guys you're still in the prcess of evolution and fuk don't try to blame it on the high competitive CONMEBOL because Paraguay, Uruguay, Ecuador, Chile and colombia had same equal oportunities as you guys and if you think that 2 tickets to the WC are impossible to achieve there are still 2 more to fight for. RICOO please please don't fuking degrade the CONCACAF beacuse just the fact that you say that Mexico has it easy you already admitting that Mexico is the greatest, thats wrong the greatest in CONCACAF now a days is the U.S and check this out, teams like Costa Rica, U.S, Honduras and T.T are rated higher than Peru in the FIFA's clasification system does this tells you anything? RICOO my friend don't claim that you are part Italian I can't not think of the product of a short Peruvian mixed with an Anglo-Italiano but if u feel love for the shirt I respect that. You dont have the right to be going around from post to post busting balls and provocating people, if your hobbie is to discuss the performance of other nations it's fine as longer you do it with respect.:hand: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:

DOnt degrade the concaca??? WTF??? what should I do then? give the concaca A Medal? a Prize? for being so great?? dont make me laugh man.:lol: :lol:... too late, I'm already laughin.:lol: :lol: ok u say Argentina is history? would u care to enlighten me with who are the new superpowers? Who would u tell me, Mexico?:worried: Argentina, and Italy could be history yet they are still 100 times better than any concaca team. The Fifa rankings r the biggest garbage ever invented by FIfa. And u dont see Peruvian mixed with Italian? ok just tell that to Claudio Pizarro, his mother is Italian u dumb ***k, not to mention most Argentinans come from Italian ancestry. Italians r all over South America idiot. What would be horrible to see is ur chihuaha ass mix with a human being! that would be horrible. So to respond to what u were saying, NO i'm not living in the past, I'm livin in the Present;) where Those teams above mentioned by u r still the dominating powers in football and where other teams like Mexico, Korea, Iran etc have all caught up to a certain level but r still lightyears away from the best like Brazil, Italy, England, Argentina and the list goes on. Do some hw before u start to talk shit next time.;)

[ricoo9]

No way Fifachamp, allow me first: Dear Captain Tsuputa: ***k off!! U obviously do not know shit @ soccer. You are the first idiot here to even respect the Fifa rankings. Those rankings are what they r: Garbish, trash, I just went to the ***king bathroom took the biggest dump ever and wiped my ass with those ***kin rankings.

Dude, I'm American and even though I love the fact to see the US up there in those rankings I know they're full of shit. Anf WTF is all that nonsense about Argentina, England, Spain and Italy!!! Shut the ***k up!!!! Do u really think there would even be a WC w/o those countries. Dude CONCACAf sucks donkey nuts, there's is not comparison w/Conmebol, yes Mexico and the US would have qualified IMO even if they played the qualifiers in Conmebol but don't tell me u think CONCACA is even remotely close to Conmebol, that shows your ***king ignorance retard, where TF r u from, CR or something? BTW Brazileros do post negative comments about Mexico when they see ridiculous posts implying Mexico is better cuz they beat them at the Whogivesashit Confederations Cup, or the Iwipemyasswith Gold Cup.

This is the worst and most ill-informed crap I've seen posted here. Congratu***kinglations, u r :first: don'tknowshitaboutsoccer dumbass numero uno.

yes I have to completly agree, this guy doesnt know shit.

[Captain Tsubasa]

Ok hold up come on fuks I never said that CONCACA WAS BETTER OR EVEN CLOSE THAN ARGENTINA-BRAZIL-CONMEBOL cause really only this two teams make it so great u know that the rest are garbage and u can kick and scream about it come on you don't need to be an expert to know that, think U.S, MEXICO and COSTA RICA acourse can't be compared to BRAZIL and ARGENTINA but they are avobe easily from the rest it's, again if BRAZIL AND ARGENTINA WERENT IN THE CONMEBOL that what greatness would you claim? The same thing happens in Africa only Nigeria and Ghana speak for the futbol in the CAF the rest are still developing so don't hate mother ***#er.
AHHHH and see still claiming that they are the best wow ok I'm going to give you that since their names Argentina, England, Spain and Italy are retaining the legacy that I explained early from the 50's to the 90's ending with Italy in the WC. About the FIFA crap well hummmmm as far as I know FIFA is the greatest futbol authority FUK man I'm going to write those fukers a letter telling them that they suck because according to experts RICOO and handofgod their FIFA clasification is wrong and sucks ass and that no matter the effort and improvement other nations make, the chart still should look something like this just like my grandpaw told me 10 years ago wow check this
1. Brazil
2. England
3. Germany
4. Argentina
5. France
6. Netherlands
7. Italy
8. Chec Republic
9. Spain
10.Portugal

WOW it would be nice but the soccer scene had change and it merely looks like this.
1 Brasil
2 Rep. Checa
3 Holanda
4 Argentina
5 Estados Unidos
6 España
7 Mexico
8 Francia
9 Inglaterra
10 Portugal

THIS IS REALITY NOW
Do u get my message?

[ricoo9]

Ok hold up come on fuks I never said that CONCACA WAS BETTER OR EVEN CLOSE THAN ARGENTINA-BRAZIL-CONMEBOL cause really only this two teams make it so great u know that the rest are garbage and u can kick and scream about it come on you don't need to be an expert to know that, think U.S, MEXICO and COSTA RICA acourse can't be compared to BRAZIL and ARGENTINA but they are avobe easily from the rest it's, again if BRAZIL AND ARGENTINA WERENT IN THE CONMEBOL that what greatness would you claim? The same thing happens in Africa only Nigeria and Ghana speak for the futbol in the CAF the rest are still developing so don't hate mother ***#er.
AHHHH and see still claiming that they are the best wow ok I'm going to give you that since their names Argentina, England, Spain and Italy are retaining the legacy that I explained early from the 50's to the 90's ending with Italy in the WC. About the FIFA crap well hummmmm as far as I know FIFA is the greatest futbol authority FUK man I'm going to write those fukers a letter telling them that they suck because according to experts RICOO and handofgod their FIFA clasification is wrong and sucks ass and that no matter the effort and improvement other nations make, the chart still should look something like this just like my grandpaw told me 10 years ago wow check this
1. Brazil
2. England
3. Germany
4. Argentina
5. France
6. Netherlands
7. Italy
8. Chec Republic
9. Spain
10.Portugal

WOW it would be nice but the soccer scene had change and it merely looks like this.
1 Brasil
2 Rep. Checa
3 Holanda
4 Argentina
5 Estados Unidos
6 España
7 Mexico
8 Francia
9 Inglaterra
10 Portugal

THIS IS REALITY NOW
Do u get my message?

U r the only retard that goes by the FIFA rankings. Mexico is not better than England, France, Portugal, the same goes for USA they r not better than those teams and should no be compared even close to their level and the fact that Italy isnt even in the top ten list should OPEN UR EYES bud. Italy has the strongest team along with Brazil coming into this tournament, and its not just me that is saying that, go to the different threads in this forum and u will see Italy is within the top 2 list of the majority of people here. and please u r saying Costa Rica and other crap teams can compare to Paraguay, Colombia, Uruguay? do u know the quality and capability of players they have? Just look at Forlan he was the leading scorer in La liga last season, do u see any central american doing anything anywhere for that matter? the answer is HELL NO... why? its plain and simple :becuase they suck, have no talent and suck balls I thought at first I was dealing with a mexican here but obviously u r from some crap central american country, get it thru ur head, the only competition in cocaca is USA and MExico, NO ONE ELSE, Costa Rica and Trinidad suck balls, I would compare C.R. with maybe Venezuela. Do u get my message?:ronaldo:

[Captain Tsubasa]

WOW RICOO u snap to easy, u are still thinking same old way man I tried to open your eyes but is impossible shit u almost covicing me that FIFA sucks ass, its like saying that NBA don't know crap about basketball or the NFL has no clue about football wow u amaze me, ok if I don't get educated from pros around the world dedicated to the soccer scene(FIFA) than who do I have to believe?? maybe should I go by the comments that fukcs like you are posting around other treads? UHMMM let me think about that....

All I'm saying is that every body has a good chance in the WORLD CUP remember CROATIA in FRANCE 98? they were under dogs maybe worst than PERU ane BOOM they surprised the world remember?????? AHHand I'm not saying that because FIFA ranks the US and MExico higher than Italy it means that they are better then ITALY u fool, choose whose better after they play each other because in recent WC this particular 3 teams have been pretty even.

About Forlan beign the leadding scorer wow he is a good player I want to see him doing the same thing with his national team cause I know he needs another 10 players in the field to make it work just watch how Ronaldinho and Marquez will do it oh yhea they have back up, ah before I forget Mexico doesn't export players cause they get payed the top $ around the world don't believe me?? Do some research why do you think that so many south american players want naturalization? thats clearly nothing to brag about.

Ahhh Im not central American I'm straight beanner and I'm a diehard CHIVA so u missed man sorry, still have respect for those central american teams and still think that Costa Rica would kick Peru, Venezuela, Bolivia and Chile's ass :sad: see ya:bolt:

[ricoo9]

WOW RICOO u snap to easy, u are still thinking same old way man I tried to open your eyes but is impossible shit u almost covicing me that FIFA sucks ass, its like saying that NBA don't know crap about basketball or the NFL has no clue about football wow u amaze me, ok if I don't get educated from pros around the world dedicated to the soccer scene(FIFA) than who do I have to believe?? maybe should I go by the comments that fukcs like you are posting around other treads? UHMMM let me think about that....

All I'm saying is that every body has a good chance in the WORLD CUP remember CROATIA in FRANCE 98? they were under dogs maybe worst than PERU ane BOOM they surprised the world remember?????? AHHand I'm not saying that because FIFA ranks the US and MExico higher than Italy it means that they are better then ITALY u fool, choose whose better after they play each other because in recent WC this particular 3 teams have been pretty even.

About Forlan beign the leadding scorer wow he is a good player I want to see him doing the same thing with his national team cause I know he needs another 10 players in the field to make it work just watch how Ronaldinho and Marquez will do it oh yhea they have back up, ah before I forget Mexico doesn't export players cause they get payed the top $ around the world don't believe me?? Do some research why do you think that so many south american players want naturalization? thats clearly nothing to brag about.

Ahhh Im not central American I'm straight beanner and I'm a diehard CHIVA so u missed man sorry, still have respect for those central american teams and still think that Costa Rica would kick Peru, Venezuela, Bolivia and Chile's ass :sad: see ya:bolt:

wow u really amaze me at how hard headed someone can be. Your saying FIFA rankings r perfect yet u dont think Mexico and USA r better than Italy, France, England etc. Talk about contradicting yourself. If Mexico is not better than these teams then please tell me why they are above them? The only reason why they r above better teams is that FIFA rankings r Flawed. THey go by region, Mexico has to play the likes of barbados, Haiti, C.R. and usually woop their ass like 10-0 for the very reason of lack of competition. They get alot of points for winning games against crap teams and for scoring alot against them, while in South America everyones level is almost even and thus making it difficult for them to reach the wc. But I tell u this, If Paraguay or Uruguay were in concaca They would be first place everytime, second would be USA and 3rd Mexico.... sorry man, just look at it with facts.;) even all ur mexican buds here in the forum agree that FIFA RANKINGS r bullshit.

[Shahbaz]

What if MEXICO wins the World Cup how will you mexico haters feel?

[Captain Tsubasa]

:tea: RICOO don't be lame post your own ideas.. well RICOO I'm a have to call you master cause according to you FIFA aint worth shit so please enlight me with your knowledge.
READ THIS THAN TALK SHIT, CAUSE I KNOW TO U ARGENTINA, ITALY, ENGLAND and SPAIN ARE UNTOCHABLE AND THAT NO MATTER THAT THEY ARE SUCKING ASS THEY WILL BE YOUR HEROES
THIS IS FUTBOL NOW A DAYS DUMB FUKC.

1. BACKGROUND AND HISTORY

In August 1993 FIFA, working in co-operation with the Coca-Cola Company, introduced a ranking system for senior national teams. The system makes it possible to publish comparisons of the relative strengths of internationally active teams at regular intervals.



Since its introduction, the FIFA/Coca-Cola Ranking has proved to be a reliable measure for comparing national A-teams. Over the years, some of the details of the ranking process have proved to be in need of improvement, and appropriate revised versions were put into effect at the beginning of 1999.

The following is an overview of the revised basis on which the ranking is calculated. By providing explanations of the various criteria involved and some concrete examples, it is hoped that it will be easier in future to understand and interpret the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking List.

2. OVERVIEW

The FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking includes the national A-teams of all FIFA member associations who play international matches. Not included in the calculation are matches played by junior teams or other representative national sides (such as the women's national team).

Taken into consideration for the ranking are all international-A match results over a time span of the last eight years:

World Cup finals matches
World Cup preliminary matches
FIFA Confederations Cup matches
Continental championship final matches
Continental championship preliminary matches
Friendly matches
The ranking list is produced by a computer program which assigns a team points for every match, according to clearly defined criteria. The factors taken into consideration are:

Winning, drawing and losing
Number of goals
Home or away match
Importance of the match (multiplication factor)
Regional strength (multiplication factor)
For each team only the seven best results per year are given full weighting. Results from the past are given progressively less weighting year by year until after eight years they are dropped completely. In this way current success is rated more highly than past results.

At the end of each year, two awards are given. The "Team of the Year" goes to the team that notches up the seven matches of the year reaping the overall highest average number of points during the year. "Best Mover of the year" is the one that has made the most progress in the course of the previous twelve months (see Section 6).



3. BASIC CALCULATION PRINCIPLES AND SOME EXAMPLES

The basic idea behind the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Rankings is the same as that for a normal championship: a team can win a certain number of points for each match, depending on the results, and the points are totalled. The association with the highest total is at the top of the ranking list.

But by contrast to normal league championships, for the World Ranking a team's points for a match do not depend solely on whether they win, lose or draw. Also affecting the total for a match will be the number of goals scored and conceded, the venue and the importance of the match. In addition, the strength of the opponent is considered, so that a win over a weakly rated opponent will earn fewer points than one against a strongly rated one. This means that a win will not simply bring two or three points and a draw one, as would happen in a national league. The calculation is more complicated since it incorporates the factors mentioned above.

To make the ranking list more understandable, the 1999 revision has been "scaled up". Previously, a win could earn between one and three points; now the scale has been multiplied by ten, so a win can bring between ten and thirty points, according to the opponent. The overall totals of teams in the list will from now on range from 0 up to about 800 points.

The following sections give details of the individual weighting criteria, and the results of applying these principles can be seen in some examples in Section 4.

3.1. Winning, drawing or losing

Naturally a win will bring more points than a defeat in any system, but simply giving two or three points for a win, one for a draw and none for a defeat, would not fully meet all the requirements for a reliable world-wide ranking system.

Therefore the distribution of points also takes into consideration the relative strengths of the two teams. In practice this means that a win over a weaker opponent will earn fewer points than victory over an equally rated or stronger one. It is also possible for a weak team that puts up a good show against a stronger one to earn points in defeat - though as a general rule not as many as the stronger team that beat them. (see example in Section 4).

A special exception is made for matches that are decided on penalties; the winning team earns the full number of points for a win, while the losing team gets the number of points that would have been awarded for a draw.

3.2 Number of goals

A further factor taken into consideration is the number of goals scored and conceded in a match. Here too the distribution of these points depends on the relative strengths of the two teams. In other words, a goal scored by the lower-rated team will be weighted more than one scored by the higher-rated side. On the other side of the balance sheet, points are deducted for goals conceded. To encourage attacking football with more goals, goals conceded are weighted less than goals scored. In matches decided on penalties, only goals scored during regular playing time or extra time are considered in the calculation.

A possible "overweighting" of goals is avoided by attaching more importance to the first goal that a team scores than to any subsequent ones. On the whole, the number of goals scored can never earn as many points as would be awarded for a win. This is in accordance with the general principle that while more goals may make the result look more impressive, in the final reckoning - as in normal league championships - it is winning or losing that is decisive.



3.3 Home and away games

To make an allowance for the extra handicap of playing away from home, the away-team is awarded a small bonus of 3 points. For games played on neutral territory or during World Cup final rounds there are no such bonus points.

3.4 Status of a match

The importance of a game is also considered - a World Cup encounter is weighted more heavily than a friendly match. The method applied here is to use a pre-calculated factor by which the points totals of a given match are multiplied.

The factors used are:

Friendly match x 1.00
Continental championship preliminary x 1.50
World Cup preliminary match x 1.50
Continental championship finals match x 1.75
FIFA Confederations Cup match x 1.75
World Cup finals match x 2.00
This means that qualifying matches are weighted 50% higher than friendlies, continental final round matches 75 % higher and matches during World Cup finals twice as much.

3.5 Regional strength factors

It is accepted that there are differences in strength between the various continents. To take these into account in an objective manner, weighting factors are worked out each year for each of the confederations. The basis of evaluation for each continent is the performance of its teams in direct intercontinental encounters. At the end of every year a continental ranking list is calculated, based on the same criteria as used for the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking.

Taken into consideration are not all the intercontinental matches played by teams from a given continent, but only the direct confrontations between the strongest teams from each continent. Specifically this means that what is included are matches between the best 25 per cent of the teams from a given continent (with a minimum of 5 teams being considered). This way the danger is averted of errors possibly being introduced by considering matches between strong teams of a weak confederation against weak teams of a strong one.

The weightings are applied in the form of multiplication factors for teams from the same continent (see below). If teams from two different confederations are involved then the factor applied is the average of the two continental weightings.

For 2005, the following weighting factors will apply:

UEFA x 1.00
CONMEBOL x 0.99
CAF x 0.96
CONCACAF x 0.94
AFC x 0.93
OFC x 0.93


3.6 Summary

Based on the above considerations, the total number of points credited to a team after a match will depend on the following criteria:

Points for winning, drawing or losing
Plus the points for goals scored in this game
Minus points for the goals conceded
Plus a bonus for the away team
Multiplied by the appropriate factor for the status of the match
Multiplied by the appropriate factor for regional strength
The number of points for a win, draw or loss, as well as for the number of goals scored or conceded is dependent on the strength of the opponent. In order not to punish a lack of success too severely, a negative points total is rounded up to 0.00.

4. EXAMPLES OF ACTUAL CALCULATIONS

Some actual examples should help to make the methods of calculation clear. In this instance it is assumed that three teams of different strengths are involved in a small friendly tournament on neutral territory. For the sake of clarity no away team bonus, nor continental or status multiplication factors are applied.

Before the tournament the three team have the following points totals:

Team A: 630 points
Team B: 500 points
Team C: 480 points
Thus, team A is by some distance the highest ranked of the three:

The following table shows the points allocations based on three possible outcomes of the match between the strongest team A, and the somewhat weaker team B:

Example 1: Team A - Team B (Team A stronger than Team B)


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Team A Team B Team A Team B Team A Team B
3 : 1 1 : 3 2 : 2

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Win/defeate +17.4 +2.6 -2.6 +22.6 +7.4 +12.6
Goals for Team A +5.4 -3.6 +2.3 -1.6 +4.1 -2.7
Goals for Team B -1.8 +2.7 -4.1 +6.2 -3.1 +4.7
Total +21.0 +1.7 (0.00) +27.2 +8.4 +14.6

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From the table it can be seen that in the case of a 3:1 win, team A is allocated a total of 21.0 points. But as the more highly ranked team, the win itself only earns 17.4 of these. The lower-rated team B still earns 1.7 points. Had the "weaker" team B won the match 3:1, they would have received 27.4 points, while the then negative total for team A would have been rounded up to 0.00. For a 2:2 draw, team B would have earned a few points more than A, for being the lower-rated team.

When the difference in strength between the two teams is less, so also will be the difference in points allocation. The following table illustrates how the points would be divided following the same results as above, but with two roughly equally ranked teams, B and C, being involved:



Example 2: Team B - Team C (both teams approximately the same strength)


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Team B Team C Team B Team C Team B Team C
3 : 1 1 : 3 2 : 2

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Win/defeate +19.6 +0.4 -0.4 +20.4 +9.6 +10.4
Goals for Team B +5.7 -3.8 +2.5 -1.7 +4.3 -2.9
Goals for Team C -1.7 +2.5 -3.9 +5.8 -3.0 +4.4
Total +23.6 (0.00) (0.00) +24.5 +10.9 +11.9

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In this case, it can be seen that for either team, approximately the same number of points would be awarded for a win or a draw, with team C getting slightly more since they are ranked a little lower.

There would normally be a bonus for the away team, which would be added to the above. Then the total would be multiplied by weighting factors that take into account the importance of the match and the regional strengths. Thus, for example, if the games above had been played during a World Cup final round, then the points total would first be doubled, and then multiplied by the continental weighting factor for the two teams involved.

5. FURTHER CRITERIA

To obtain a greater degree of objectivity in the ranking list, two further criteria have to be considered:

The number of matches a team plays within a given period of time
The importance to be attached to results from previous years.
5.1 The number of matches played

So that teams playing more international matches are not favoured over those playing fewer, only a limited number of games are taken into consideration. This number has been determined by deciding on what could be termed the "averagely active teams", and these were agreed on as those having played between seven and ten matches per year.

So that less active teams are not disadvantaged in the ranking, the calculation initially considers only the seven best results. Further results are included, by working out an average for them.

The situation is best clarified by means of an example. Suppose a team plays twelve matches; then the calculation would run like this:

The best seven of the 12 results are identified
The total score for these seven matches is calculated (X)
The total score for all 12 matches is calculated
This total is divided by 12 and multiplied by seven (Y)
The total for the seven best results is added to the seven "average" results (X+Y)
This total (X+Y) is divided by two for the final score


5.2 Previous results

So that the ranking accurately reflects current form, the greatest importance is attached to matches played in the last twelve months. But attention is also paid to results from previous years. Basically, the current year's points total is averaged in with points earned in the seven preceding years, with weightings that decline progressively the further back we go. After eight years, results are dropped from the calculation altogether.

Thus the points included in the calculations for the ranking at the end of 2003 would comprise the following:

Last 12 months (e.g. 2003) : 8/8 value

+ previous year (2002) : 7/8 value
+ previous year (2001) : 6/8 value
+ previous year (2000) : 5/8 value
+ previous year (1999) : 4/8 value
+ previous year (1998) : 3/8 value
+ previous year (1997) : 2/8 value
+ previous year (1996) : 1/8 value
6. AWARDS

The "Team of the Year" goes to the team that notches up the seven matches of the year reaping the overall highest average number of points during the year.

The award for the "Best Mover of the Year" in the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking is not based simply on the biggest jump in the number of points or in the number of places up the ranking ladder. What also has to be taken into consideration is the fact that it becomes progressively harder for a team to earn points the more it already has.

Thus to decide on the " Best Mover of the Year " a calculation is performed that multiplies the number of points a team has at the end of the year [x] by the number it has earned during the year [y]. The team with the highest index obtained in this way wins the award.

The table below shows the calculation for the year 2002.


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Team Points at end of
2002(x) Points won in
2002 (y) Total
(x * y)

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1. Senegal 646 107 69122
2. Wales 554 113 62602
3. Brazil 856 63 53928
4. Cameroon 685 76 52060
5. Mali 490 99 48510

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7. THE COMPUTER PROGRAM

The program for calculating and up-dating the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking was developed for FIFA by two specialists, Dr. Markus Lamprecht and Dr. Hanspeter Stamm. The development of the program (including the 1999 revisions) was carried out in close co-operation with football experts, and the Communications and Competitions Divisions of FIFA. SO RICOO :red-card:

[Shahbaz]

spamming

[Captain Tsubasa]

AH RICO T&T CUBA EL SALVADOR GUATEMALA HONDURAS SAN VIV+CENTE AND CANADA WOULDNT HELP WITH THE RANKING Tipo Fecha Local - Visita
THIS IS MEXICO 2005 RICOO DON"T TALK SHIT WITHOUT KNOWING THE FACTS
Sede
26 Enero México 0 - 0 Suecia San Diego, CA., EUA
9 Febrero Costa Rica 1 - 2 México San José, Costa Rica
23 Febrero México 1 - 1 Colombia Culiacán, Sinaloa, Méx.
9 Marzo México 1 - 1 Argentina Fullerton, CA., EUA
27 Marzo México 2 -1 Estados Unidos Ciudad de México
30 Marzo Panamá 1 - 1 México Cd. de Panamá, Pan.
27 Abril México 1 - 1 Polonia Chicago, IL., EUA
4 Junio Guatemala 0 - 2 México Cd. de Guatemala, Gua.
8 Junio México 2 - 0 T. & T. Monterrey, N.L., México
16 Junio México 2 - 1 Japón Hannover, Alemania
19 Junio México 1 - 0 Brasil Hannover, Alemania
22 Junio México 0 - 0 Grecia Frankfurt, Alemania
26 Junio México 1 - 1 Argentina Hannover, Alemania
29 Junio México 3 - 4 Alemania Leipzig, Alemania
8 Julio México 1 - 2 Sudáfrica Carson, CA., EUA
10 Julio México 4 - 0 Guatemala Los Angeles, CA., EUA
13 Julio México 1 - 0 Jamaica Houston, Tx., EUA
17 Julio México 1 - 2 Colombia Houston, Tx., EUA
17 Agosto México 2 - 0 Costa Rica Ciudad de México
3 Sept. Estados Unidos 2 - 0 México Columbus, Oh., EUA
7 Sept. México 5 - 0 Panamá Ciudad de México
8 Octubre México 5 - 2 Guatemala San Luis Potosí, México
12 Octubre T. & T. 2 - 1 México Puerto España, T. y T.
26 Octubre México 3 - 1 Uruguay Guadalajara, Jal., México
16 Noviembre México 0 - 3 Bulgaria Houston, Tx., EUA
14 Diciembre México 2 - 0 Hungría

[Captain Tsubasa]

THIS IS SO FAR 2006

25 Enero México 2 - 1 Noruega San Francisco, CA., E.U.A.
15 Febrero México 0 - 1 Corea del Sur Los Angeles, CA., E.U.A.
1 Marzo México 1 - 0 Ghana Pizza Hut Park, Frisco, TX., E.U.A.
29 Marzo México 2 - 1 Paraguay Soldier Field, Chicago, IL., E.U.A.

[ricoo9]

AH RICO T&T CUBA EL SALVADOR GUATEMALA HONDURAS SAN VIV+CENTE AND CANADA WOULDNT HELP WITH THE RANKING Tipo Fecha Local - Visita
THIS IS MEXICO 2005 RICOO DON"T TALK SHIT WITHOUT KNOWING THE FACTS
Sede
26 Enero México 0 - 0 Suecia San Diego, CA., EUA
9 Febrero Costa Rica 1 - 2 México San José, Costa Rica
23 Febrero México 1 - 1 Colombia Culiacán, Sinaloa, Méx.
9 Marzo México 1 - 1 Argentina Fullerton, CA., EUA
27 Marzo México 2 -1 Estados Unidos Ciudad de México
30 Marzo Panamá 1 - 1 México Cd. de Panamá, Pan.
27 Abril México 1 - 1 Polonia Chicago, IL., EUA
4 Junio Guatemala 0 - 2 México Cd. de Guatemala, Gua.
8 Junio México 2 - 0 T. & T. Monterrey, N.L., México
16 Junio México 2 - 1 Japón Hannover, Alemania
19 Junio México 1 - 0 Brasil Hannover, Alemania
22 Junio México 0 - 0 Grecia Frankfurt, Alemania
26 Junio México 1 - 1 Argentina Hannover, Alemania
29 Junio México 3 - 4 Alemania Leipzig, Alemania
8 Julio México 1 - 2 Sudáfrica Carson, CA., EUA
10 Julio México 4 - 0 Guatemala Los Angeles, CA., EUA
13 Julio México 1 - 0 Jamaica Houston, Tx., EUA
17 Julio México 1 - 2 Colombia Houston, Tx., EUA
17 Agosto México 2 - 0 Costa Rica Ciudad de México
3 Sept. Estados Unidos 2 - 0 México Columbus, Oh., EUA
7 Sept. México 5 - 0 Panamá Ciudad de México 8 Octubre México 5 - 2 Guatemala San Luis Potosí, México
12 Octubre T. & T. 2 - 1 México Puerto España, T. y T.
26 Octubre México 3 - 1 Uruguay Guadalajara, Jal., México
16 Noviembre México 0 - 3 Bulgaria Houston, Tx., EUA
14 Diciembre México 2 - 0 Hungría


R u a ***king idiot? Those highlighted games show exactly why Mexico is ranked so high, those r qualifying matches and r put above friendly games dumbass. So what was mexicos challenge? The reason Mexico is ranked 7th and even 5th at one moment was for that, If Conmebol teams would be in the concaca they would be top 10 teams as well. :boo:

[Shahbaz]

Ricco9 those are facts

[Shahbaz]

THIS IS SO FAR 2006

25 Enero México 2 - 1 Noruega San Francisco, CA., E.U.A.
15 Febrero México 0 - 1 Corea del Sur Los Angeles, CA., E.U.A.
1 Marzo México 1 - 0 Ghana Pizza Hut Park, Frisco, TX., E.U.A.
29 Marzo México 2 - 1 Paraguay Soldier Field, Chicago, IL., E.U.A.
What do you think Ricco9

[ricoo9]

:tea: RICOO don't be lame post your own ideas.. well RICOO I'm a have to call you master cause according to you FIFA aint worth shit so please enlight me with your knowledge.
READ THIS THAN TALK SHIT, CAUSE I KNOW TO U ARGENTINA, ITALY, ENGLAND and SPAIN ARE UNTOCHABLE AND THAT NO MATTER THAT THEY ARE SUCKING ASS THEY WILL BE YOUR HEROES
THIS IS FUTBOL NOW A DAYS DUMB FUKC.


Dude at the end, who the ***k cares what FIFA's flawed system has to say about whos better than who, Argentina, Italy, England and Spain have 100 times better quality players than Mexico or any concaca team and only a dumbass would say otherwise.

[HandofGodd]

Dude,, who's the ass hole wasting time talking about Mexico? Its bad enough, TELEMUNDO and UNIVISION parade that mexican shit all day ! If you want to talk Mexico, call JORGE RAMOS hahahaha

Ps Change your Name dude!

[Captain Tsubasa]

WOW not even facts stop u guys from talking shit its ok keep hating show me results.
SHOW ME ARGENTINA, PERU AND ITALY's 2005 game lists than I'll listen to u fukers :D :D :D :D ITS A LOT BETTER TO BE IN THE WC AND LOSE PLAYING THAN TO BE AT HOME WATCHING THE FUN ON TV WISHING TO BE THERE RICOo No one likes people like you that think they have knoledge of the game and love to draw attention by talking junk when they don't. So live the cheat chat to FIFA suckers

RICOO LET THE WORLD SPIN AROUND AND IF YOU BELIEVE ON SOMETHING(MEXICO SUCKS) ITS OK. JUST KEEP IT TO YOURSELF DON'T TRY TO ACT LIKE A PREACHER TRYING TO PERSUADE EVERYBODY
PEACE.

HANDOFGOD u change your name what the fukc is that? MANO DE DIOS? I SAY THATS A LUCKY ASS MOTHER FUKER BECAUSE IF NOT FOR THAT LUCKY BASTARD OF MARADONA'S HAND, ARGENTINA WOULDN'T BE BRAGGING OF SHIT. WIN A TOURNAMENT WITH GOOD MERITS DUDE THAT SHOWS A GOOD TEAM NOT BECAUSE OF A HANDBALL THATS GAY SEEYA YA:boo: :boo: :boo:

[FIFAchamp]

SH*T!!!!!!!!!!!! this guy Captain Tsubasa is visious!! i dunno dude.... i think the rankings arent that good, but i also think that they are misunderstood.... im not overhyping anybody (i'd like to think that u clowns have come to see that MOST of us here dont fit that overblown stereotype that has been created by very very very few) but dude this guy makes SOLID points... i dunno, ricoo9 u like facts no? u like to post up a lot of facts about mexico no? u should be a historian for the mexican NT, u seem to LOVE it a lot :lol: but shit, this guy tsubasa is shutting you guys (ricoo, handofgod) down... you guys look dead in the water... its pretty much rambling from the two of you now... this guy came and owned the both of you.... :sad: ricoo wat happened bro? and F*CK i gotta destroy you in some FIFA already!!!, are u getting wc 2006?

[FIFAchamp]

Dude,, who's the ass hole wasting time talking about Mexico? Its bad enough, TELEMUNDO and UNIVISION parade that mexican shit all day ! If you want to talk Mexico, call JORGE RAMOS hahahaha

Ps Change your Name dude!

blah :blabla: blah :blabla: blah :blabla: blah :blabla: blah.... i thot this was old news? and had already been resolved.... lol, kinda late no? :lol: btw if you dont like the mexican league you should stick to "soccer saturday" :rofl: but if you dont like that either, then go back to peru, or argentina or where ever u have been claiming to be from for the past 3 months....
:lol:

[Captain Tsubasa]

WOW sorry i'm not making fun of you man but check this out from the month of March 2006:

- Clasificación FIFA:

1. Brasil 837 puntos.
2. República Checa 793.
3. Holanda 791.
4. Argentina 769.
5. Francia 766.
6. España 765.
+. México 765.
+. Estados Unidos 765.
9. Inglaterra 758
10. Portugal 756...
21. Uruguay 703
25. Costa Rica 700
27. Colombia 689
33. Paraguay 669
38. Ecuador 650
42. Honduras 626
58. Guatemala 584
66. Chile 560
67. Perú 558
69. Venezuela 553
77. Cuba 544
79. Panamá 536
98. Bolivia 470
126 El Salvador 355
153 Nicaragua 243
174 Rep. Dominicana 156
195 Puerto Rico 62.

It's sad that even Honduras and Guatemala are sedded higher than Peru and watch it cause Cuba is catching up LOL :) Who are u going to blame for that? Maybe because Guatemala plays against el Salvador, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Jamaica and against my University LOL DON'T BE STUBBORN MAN AND GET IT, PERU does not belong to South America and before u talk shit about THE TRI get your facts right peace out bro.

[Captain Tsubasa]

AHH more facts
Africa drops off the pace, CONCACAF growing in power
At continental level, a few interesting trends can be detected from the Peruvian event. The first amounts to the continued decline of the African sides who for so long ruled the roost in FIFA's junior competitions. In 2003, none of them managed to reach the quarter-finals, and that scenario was repeated again this year. Ghana may not have lost any games, but their lack of inspiration was a big letdown. Côte d'Ivoire, despite having some good individuals, came unstuck due to excessive naivety. At least Gambia have a legitimate case for blaming bad luck.

Asia, in contrast, performed excellently, providing two of the quarter-final constituents (Korea DPR and China). Let the world take note: Asian sides are no longer mere makeweights. Europe, meanwhile, once again emerged creditably from the first-round encounters, but then failed to stay the course during the second phase. Having said that, the Turks and Dutch both showed that youth football is thriving in Europe. But the real sensation came from the North, Central American and Caribbean Confederation, whose trio of representatives all reached at least the quarter-finals (United States, Costa Rica and Mexico). Displaying impressive maturity, they no longer have cause to envy the world's "big" sides.
THIS HAPPENED IN CHICLAYO PERU OUR U17 WALKED OVER HOLLAND AND BRAZIL REMEMBER???? AH THEY ARE KIDS AH>? IT DOES NOT COUNT OK
SO FAR ONLY BRAZIL, ARGENTINA AND MEXICO HAVE ACHIVE THIS KID'S BULLSHIT FROM THE AMERICAN CONTINENT =o WHERE IS PERU AT?

[Captain Tsubasa]

THIS IS THE TEAM LIST IT SHOWS THAT IT WASN'T EASY
1. CHINA PR
2. KOREA DPR
3. QATAR The AFC Asian U-17 Championship was staged in Japan from 5 – 19 September 2004

1. GAMBIA
2. GHANA
3. CÔTE D'IVOIRE The African Junior finals were played from 7 – 22 2005 in Gambia.

1. USA
2. MEXICO
3. COSTA RICA
Final round: 2 groups of 4 teams
Group A was played between 12 - 16 April 2005 in Costa Rica
Group B was played from 17 - 21 May 2005 in Mexico

1. BRAZIL
2. URUGUAY The South American U-17 Championship was played from 1 – 17 April 2005 in Venezuela.

1. AUSTRALIA The finals were played from 2 – 15 April 2005 in New Caledonia.

1. TURKEY
2. NETHERLANDS
3. ITALY The UEFA U-17 Championship was played from 3-14 May 2005 in Italy.

PERU The host nation is guaranteed a spot in the finals.

[ricoo9]

WOW sorry i'm not making fun of you man but check this out from the month of March 2006:

- Clasificación FIFA:

1. Brasil 837 puntos.
2. República Checa 793.
3. Holanda 791.
4. Argentina 769.
5. Francia 766.
6. España 765.
+. México 765.
+. Estados Unidos 765.
9. Inglaterra 758
10. Portugal 756...
21. Uruguay 703
25. Costa Rica 700
27. Colombia 689
33. Paraguay 669
38. Ecuador 650
42. Honduras 626
58. Guatemala 584
66. Chile 560
67. Perú 558
69. Venezuela 553
77. Cuba 544
79. Panamá 536
98. Bolivia 470
126 El Salvador 355
153 Nicaragua 243
174 Rep. Dominicana 156
195 Puerto Rico 62.

It's sad that even Honduras and Guatemala are sedded higher than Peru and watch it cause Cuba is catching up LOL :) Who are u going to blame for that? Maybe because Guatemala plays against el Salvador, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Jamaica and against my University LOL DON'T BE STUBBORN MAN AND GET IT, PERU does not belong to South America and before u talk shit about THE TRI get your facts right peace out bro.

The info u got there is old bud, Peru is ranked higher than chile now, and honduras? Peru beat honduras 5-1 in ur precious gold cup. THat right there proves how flawed the system is. This has already been discussed many time, ur the only dumbass sayin that fifa rankings r correct, and fifachamp is all over ur nuts cuz ur a mexi, hahaha if a mexican says mexico is better than england and puts Fifa rankings up there, he will say we r owned as well. :boo: But I dont need to argue stupidity, Peru faces Argentina, BRazil, Uruguay, PAraguay etc and Mexico faces Barbados and wins 5-0, Only an Idiot would agree that FIFA ranking r good. And Peru is part of south america u ***kin numbnut, This guy reminds me of a Mexican DCUNITED he makes the same dumb arguments.

[Captain Tsubasa]

Wow Ricoo Those Are Facts Lol Bro Don't Be Dumb No Body Said That Mexico Is Better Than Anybody Else No Even Peru Don't Stir Shit Down I'm Just Educating U Cause Clearly U're In This Post For One Reason, To Talk Scrap About Mexico.

[Captain Tsubasa]

The info u got there is old bud, Peru is ranked higher than chile now, and honduras? Peru beat honduras 5-1 in ur precious gold cup. THat right there proves how flawed the system is. This has already been discussed many time, ur the only dumbass sayin that fifa rankings r correct, and fifachamp is all over ur nuts cuz ur a mexi, hahaha if a mexican says mexico is better than england and puts Fifa rankings up there, he will say we r owned as well. :boo: But I dont need to argue stupidity, Peru faces Argentina, BRazil, Uruguay, PAraguay etc and Mexico faces Barbados and wins 5-0, Only an Idiot would agree that FIFA ranking r good. And Peru is part of south america u ***kin numbnut, This guy reminds me of a Mexican DCUNITED he makes the same dumb arguments.


:director: RICOO RICOO RICOO quit this bull shit man maybe MEXICO would have it harder if they qualified in the UEFA? RIGHT! LATVIA,SLOVANIA,BELARUS,POLONIA,ESTONIA,CYPRUS,LUXEMBURGH,LITHUANIA,GEORGIA,MALTA, SLOVAKIA, AND MANY MORE YEA I GUESS THEY ARE ALL STRONGER THAN MEXICO RIGHT? GET REAL GIVE MEXICO THESE TEAMS AND YOU WILL SEE IF THEY QUALIFY OR NOT; OH BY THE WAY MAYBE ENGLAND'S GROUP WAS ENGLAND GERMANY CZECH REP AND ITALY; OH AND PORTUGAL'S GROUP WAS PORTUGAL SPAIN, HOLLAND, POLAND; OR DID THEY ALL QUALIFY AGAINST THE ABOVE TEAMS? MAN GET REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 LOL :jaw:

[kaka_rules_99]

To Captain Tsubasa

Hey dude... I used to watch that cartoon... it was cool ...

laters
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[ricoo9]

:director: RICOO RICOO RICOO quit this bull shit man maybe MEXICO would have it harder if they qualified in the UEFA? RIGHT! LATVIA,SLOVANIA,BELARUS,POLONIA,ESTONIA,CYPRUS,LUXEMBURGH,LITHUANIA,GEORGIA,MALTA, SLOVAKIA, AND MANY MORE YEA I GUESS THEY ARE ALL STRONGER THAN MEXICO RIGHT? GET REAL GIVE MEXICO THESE TEAMS AND YOU WILL SEE IF THEY QUALIFY OR NOT; OH BY THE WAY MAYBE ENGLAND'S GROUP WAS ENGLAND GERMANY CZECH REP AND ITALY; OH AND PORTUGAL'S GROUP WAS PORTUGAL SPAIN, HOLLAND, POLAND; OR DID THEY ALL QUALIFY AGAINST THE ABOVE TEAMS? MAN GET REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 LOL :jaw:

WHy dont u mention conmebol dumbass, u think mexicos chances would be really high goin against Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay etc? Mexico would not have that sure spot they have now, they would have as much chances as anyother middle team. Stop talkin nonsense if u want me to keep replyin to ur messages. Its obvious i'm talkin to a middleschooler who doesnt know shit about football. I suggest u watch more international football and stop holding urself to only the mexican league.:boo:

[Captain Tsubasa]

LOL RICOO SNAPPED HAHA STILL ONLY BRAZIL AND ARGENTINA ARE RESPECTED CHECK THIS WORST TEAMS FROM SOUTH AMERICA PERU, BOLIVIA AND VENEZUELA THE REAL CONMEBOL: CHILE PARAGUAY, URUGUAY, COLOMBIA, ECUADOR, BRAZIL AND ARGENTINA AND HELL YHEA MEXICO WOULD ALWAYS GET ONE OUT OF THE FOR TICKETS EASILY AT LEAST ONCE IN 5 WORLD CUPS NOT LIKE PERU

Los mariachis rojiblancos cantaron en el ‘Morumbì’, la historia se volvió a repetir ante el Campeón Mundial y actual monarca de la Libertadores, Chivas empezó perdiendo con Sao Paulo, pero sacó el orgullo y remontó como lo hizo en Guadalajara. El Rebaño que jugó con su segundo uniforme, pantaloncillo azul y camiseta del mismo color, le cortó una racha invicta de 20 años al cuadro paulista en su casa. De dos, dos veces le pegó el chiverío al Sao Paulo y llena más páginas doradas en la gran historia de este club.

La primera parte fue muy pareja y así lo indicó el marcador ya que se fueron al descanso igualados a uno gol, por Sao Paulo abrió el marcador Aloísio y en la agonía del primer tiempo igualó Sergio Santana. En la parte complementaria, Chivas se quedó con diez hombres tras la expulsión de Omar Bravo al minuto 73’ y fue con desventaja de hombres en la cancha que consiguió el histórico triunfo en Brasil con tanto de Diego Martínez a pase del “Venado” Medina, dos elementos que no fueron convocados al Tricolor.

El cuadro más mexicano hizo la hazaña en Sao Paulo y puso en alto el nombre de nuestro país, los mariachis sonaron con todo en territorio carioca. Chivas demostró porque es la base de la Selección Nacional.



El Rebaño amarra un lugar en los Octavos de Final de la Copa Toyota Libertadores de América 2006.

Los Goles

*1 – 0.- Minuto 33’ Héctor Reynoso no atina a despejar un balón dentro del área tapatía y Aloísio dispara de bolea imparable para Oswaldo y marca un buen gol con el cual, Sao Paulo abre el marcador.
*1 – 1.- Minuto 45’ Excelente servicio de Adolfo Bautista por el sector derecho a media altura, justo a la testa de Sergio Santana quien vence a Rogeiro Ceni para empatar el marcador en la última jugada del primer tiempo.
*1 – 2.- Minuto 81’ Alberto Medina manda un servicio a segundo poste, Diego Martínez entra de atrás habilitado, se quita la marca de Rogeiro Ceni y empuja el balón al fondo de las redes dándole la victoria al Rebaño.

Alineaciones

SAO PAULO

1.- Rogeiro
3.- Fabao
5.- Lugano (Amonestado al 73’)
4.- Edcarlos
9.- Leandro
6.- Júnior (20.- Richarylson al 61’)
7.- Mineiro (Amonestado al 55’)
8.- Josué (11.- A. Días al 70’)
10.- Danilo
19.- Thiago
14.- Aloísio (Gol al 33’)

D.T.- Muricy Ramalho

CHIVAS

1.- O. Sánchez (Amonestado al 90’)
2.- D. Martínez (Gol al 81’)
3.- F. Rodríguez (Amonestado al 55’)
4.- H. Reynoso
5.- C. Salcido
7.- G. Pineda (Amonestado al 90’)
24.- P. Araujo
23.- A. Bautista (8.- J. García al 82’)
11.- R. Morales (10.- A. Medina al 69’)
21.- S. Santana (Gol al 45’) (17.- J. Barrera al 67’)
9.- O. Bravo (Amonestado al 63’ y al 73’) (Expulsado al 73’)

D.T.- J. M. De la Torre

Árbitro.- Daniel Giménez (Argentina)



Con este resultado, el grupo uno de la Libertadores queda de la siguiente manera:

Equipo_____Puntos

Chivas______10
Sao Paulo____6
Caracas_____4
Cienciano____3

Once Mexicanos se plantaron con personalidad en Brasil y en el año del Centenario, el equipo más querido y popular de nuestro país, mostró que se le puede a ganar al mejor del mundo en su territorio con mentalidad y disciplina.

José Manuel de la Torre continúa con paso perfecto y ahora de 5 encuentros dirigidos, acumula 5 triunfos.

La despedida de los seleccionados fue soñada derrotando al mejor del mundo a domicilio. Se van seis elementos a la Selección, pero se quedan miles de seguidores Chivas.

CHIVAS CHIVAS CHIVAS

[Captain Tsubasa]

Be Cool Ricoo Don't Hate Just Root For Italy And Have Fun, Mexicans Don't Brag About Shit Cause We Know That The Tri Is Still Developing And Hopefully Someday The World Will Agree That Mexico Belongs To The Top 10 World Elite.
Peace Bro.


Hell Yheaa Man Remember Oliver Atom I Grew Up Watching Those Super Campeones I Have Them All Chapters

[FIFAchamp]

hijole!! but its gonna be hard for chivas to go farther, cuz they're missing 6 players!!! SH*T!!!

[Albais#1]

handofgod ur gay!
alll u do is talk shit! i woulnt be surprised if u had no friends and spend ur time online all the time and stilll live with ur parnets at the age of 40
and u dont have agirlfriend either cuz ur obviousely gay!
so ha ha ha!!!!!!

[Jackass88]

WHy dont u mention conmebol dumbass, u think mexicos chances would be really high goin against Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay etc? Mexico would not have that sure spot they have now, they would have as much chances as anyother middle team. Stop talkin nonsense if u want me to keep replyin to ur messages. Its obvious i'm talkin to a middleschooler who doesnt know shit about football. I suggest u watch more international football and stop holding urself to only the mexican league.:boo:

Hijo de tu chingada madre, ricoo9 you are a ***ken fagget, a bitch, an ass licker, and an uncle ***ker, of corse Mexico has a chance against those ***ked up teams from the CONMEBOL, dude Uruguay didin't even make it to the World Cup because they suck balls. Also Paraguay, Brazil, Argentina, all those teams suck. Mexico has a chance against any team you little bitch so suck my balls!!!!!!

Mexico Asta La Muerte!!!!!!! :yell:

[Captain Tsubasa]

RICOO RICOO RICOO quit this bull shit man maybe MEXICO would have it harder if they qualified in the UEFA? RIGHT! LATVIA,SLOVANIA,BELARUS,POLONIA,ESTONIA,CYPRUS,LUXEMBURGH,LITHUANIA,GEORGIA,MALTA, SLOVAKIA, AND MANY MORE YEA I GUESS THEY ARE ALL STRONGER THAN MEXICO RIGHT? GET REAL GIVE MEXICO THESE TEAMS AND YOU WILL SEE IF THEY QUALIFY OR NOT; OH BY THE WAY MAYBE ENGLAND'S GROUP WAS ENGLAND GERMANY CZECH REP AND ITALY; OH AND PORTUGAL'S GROUP WAS PORTUGAL SPAIN, HOLLAND, POLAND; OR DID THEY ALL QUALIFY AGAINST THE ABOVE TEAMS? MAN GET REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 LOL

DON'T U GET IT RICOO?????

[ricoo9]

RICOO RICOO RICOO quit this bull shit man maybe MEXICO would have it harder if they qualified in the UEFA? RIGHT! LATVIA,SLOVANIA,BELARUS,POLONIA,ESTONIA,CYPRUS,LUXEMBURGH,LITHUANIA,GEORGIA,MALTA, SLOVAKIA, AND MANY MORE YEA I GUESS THEY ARE ALL STRONGER THAN MEXICO RIGHT? GET REAL GIVE MEXICO THESE TEAMS AND YOU WILL SEE IF THEY QUALIFY OR NOT; OH BY THE WAY MAYBE ENGLAND'S GROUP WAS ENGLAND GERMANY CZECH REP AND ITALY; OH AND PORTUGAL'S GROUP WAS PORTUGAL SPAIN, HOLLAND, POLAND; OR DID THEY ALL QUALIFY AGAINST THE ABOVE TEAMS? MAN GET REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 LOL

DON'T U GET IT RICOO?????

Mr. Tabasco fag, its obvious u r nowhere near my level. It would be a waste of time and energy to argue stupidities over and over again with u. In the other hand, I can say I had great debates against UNAM, Tronx, even sometimes with FIFAchump, but this has just gotten ridicoulous. Its like u telling me the earth is flat and me wasting my energy to tell u its round. I will not waste my time with u anymore, If I see something worth arguing for I will, so as for now, U can go suck a nut puto :Peace:

[Captain Tsubasa]

Ahaha Ricoo Is Crying I Am Thinking The Same Way Lol
Look At Your Posts Are Just Oppinions Fuker Ahaha Im Bangging Ur Ass With Facts Ah I Forgot U Are My Master Cause U Word And Knowledge Goes Way Far Than Those Fifa Suckers Right?????????

I'm The One That Is Waisting My Time With Little Punks Like U, I'm Not Even Arguing With You, Cock Sucker With No Life.

All I've Been Doing Is Teaching Your Sorry Ass About Some Soccer Facts Cause Apparently U're Still Thinking About The 70's And 90's Ya Suckaaaaaaaa

Cheers For Peru Maybe In 4 Years You'll Have More Luck!!!!!!!

[ricoo9]

Ahaha Ricoo Is Crying I Am Thinking The Same Way Lol
Look At Your Posts Are Just Oppinions Fuker Ahaha Im Bangging Ur Ass With Facts Ah I Forgot U Are My Master Cause U Word And Knowledge Goes Way Far Than Those Fifa Suckers Right?????????

I'm The One That Is Waisting My Time With Little Punks Like U, I'm Not Even Arguing With You, Cock Sucker With No Life.

All I've Been Doing Is Teaching Your Sorry Ass About Some Soccer Facts Cause Apparently U're Still Thinking About The 70's And 90's Ya Suckaaaaaaaa

Cheers For Peru Maybe In 4 Years You'll Have More Luck!!!!!!!

Facts? We all know how FIFA ranks the teams. The only fact is that its stupid. U really must be a retard to think u r making sense. U r the only one arguing for FIFA RANKINGS....even ALL ur mexican "allies" say its worth shit, Why dont u try convincing them its good, they will all tell u the same shit and they r against me. :evil: Thats why i wont waste my time discussin incongruent, unintelligible arguments with a child. U will have to come up with something better kid. ;)

[FIFAchamp]

....even sometimes with FIFAchump....


***k you nick-ah!!! lol, its MR. FIFACHAMP to you now bleatch!! cuz i'll destroy yo ass in fifa '06... btw wen are we gonna play? shit!! my screen name is saleenizzle (cuz i drive a saleenizzle fa shizzle) just so you know... im just going on spring break (how lame is that) so i'll be home next week in the mornings... if you wanna get destroyed then, then f*ck it watever... i'll see wat i can do... lol.

[Captain Tsubasa]

:tea: RICOO don't be lame post your own ideas.. well RICOO I'm a have to call you master cause according to you FIFA aint worth shit so please enlight me with your knowledge.
READ THIS THAN TALK SHIT, CAUSE I KNOW TO U ARGENTINA, ITALY, ENGLAND and SPAIN ARE UNTOCHABLE AND THAT NO MATTER THAT THEY ARE SUCKING ASS THEY WILL BE YOUR HEROES
THIS IS FUTBOL NOW A DAYS DUMB FUKC.

1. BACKGROUND AND HISTORY

In August 1993 FIFA, working in co-operation with the Coca-Cola Company, introduced a ranking system for senior national teams. The system makes it possible to publish comparisons of the relative strengths of internationally active teams at regular intervals.



Since its introduction, the FIFA/Coca-Cola Ranking has proved to be a reliable measure for comparing national A-teams. Over the years, some of the details of the ranking process have proved to be in need of improvement, and appropriate revised versions were put into effect at the beginning of 1999.

The following is an overview of the revised basis on which the ranking is calculated. By providing explanations of the various criteria involved and some concrete examples, it is hoped that it will be easier in future to understand and interpret the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking List.

2. OVERVIEW

The FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking includes the national A-teams of all FIFA member associations who play international matches. Not included in the calculation are matches played by junior teams or other representative national sides (such as the women's national team).

Taken into consideration for the ranking are all international-A match results over a time span of the last eight years:

World Cup finals matches
World Cup preliminary matches
FIFA Confederations Cup matches
Continental championship final matches
Continental championship preliminary matches
Friendly matches
The ranking list is produced by a computer program which assigns a team points for every match, according to clearly defined criteria. The factors taken into consideration are:

Winning, drawing and losing
Number of goals
Home or away match
Importance of the match (multiplication factor)
Regional strength (multiplication factor)
For each team only the seven best results per year are given full weighting. Results from the past are given progressively less weighting year by year until after eight years they are dropped completely. In this way current success is rated more highly than past results.

At the end of each year, two awards are given. The "Team of the Year" goes to the team that notches up the seven matches of the year reaping the overall highest average number of points during the year. "Best Mover of the year" is the one that has made the most progress in the course of the previous twelve months (see Section 6).



3. BASIC CALCULATION PRINCIPLES AND SOME EXAMPLES

The basic idea behind the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Rankings is the same as that for a normal championship: a team can win a certain number of points for each match, depending on the results, and the points are totalled. The association with the highest total is at the top of the ranking list.

But by contrast to normal league championships, for the World Ranking a team's points for a match do not depend solely on whether they win, lose or draw. Also affecting the total for a match will be the number of goals scored and conceded, the venue and the importance of the match. In addition, the strength of the opponent is considered, so that a win over a weakly rated opponent will earn fewer points than one against a strongly rated one. This means that a win will not simply bring two or three points and a draw one, as would happen in a national league. The calculation is more complicated since it incorporates the factors mentioned above.

To make the ranking list more understandable, the 1999 revision has been "scaled up". Previously, a win could earn between one and three points; now the scale has been multiplied by ten, so a win can bring between ten and thirty points, according to the opponent. The overall totals of teams in the list will from now on range from 0 up to about 800 points.

The following sections give details of the individual weighting criteria, and the results of applying these principles can be seen in some examples in Section 4.

3.1. Winning, drawing or losing

Naturally a win will bring more points than a defeat in any system, but simply giving two or three points for a win, one for a draw and none for a defeat, would not fully meet all the requirements for a reliable world-wide ranking system.

Therefore the distribution of points also takes into consideration the relative strengths of the two teams. In practice this means that a win over a weaker opponent will earn fewer points than victory over an equally rated or stronger one. It is also possible for a weak team that puts up a good show against a stronger one to earn points in defeat - though as a general rule not as many as the stronger team that beat them. (see example in Section 4).

A special exception is made for matches that are decided on penalties; the winning team earns the full number of points for a win, while the losing team gets the number of points that would have been awarded for a draw.

3.2 Number of goals

A further factor taken into consideration is the number of goals scored and conceded in a match. Here too the distribution of these points depends on the relative strengths of the two teams. In other words, a goal scored by the lower-rated team will be weighted more than one scored by the higher-rated side. On the other side of the balance sheet, points are deducted for goals conceded. To encourage attacking football with more goals, goals conceded are weighted less than goals scored. In matches decided on penalties, only goals scored during regular playing time or extra time are considered in the calculation.

A possible "overweighting" of goals is avoided by attaching more importance to the first goal that a team scores than to any subsequent ones. On the whole, the number of goals scored can never earn as many points as would be awarded for a win. This is in accordance with the general principle that while more goals may make the result look more impressive, in the final reckoning - as in normal league championships - it is winning or losing that is decisive.



3.3 Home and away games

To make an allowance for the extra handicap of playing away from home, the away-team is awarded a small bonus of 3 points. For games played on neutral territory or during World Cup final rounds there are no such bonus points.

3.4 Status of a match

The importance of a game is also considered - a World Cup encounter is weighted more heavily than a friendly match. The method applied here is to use a pre-calculated factor by which the points totals of a given match are multiplied.

The factors used are:

Friendly match x 1.00
Continental championship preliminary x 1.50
World Cup preliminary match x 1.50
Continental championship finals match x 1.75
FIFA Confederations Cup match x 1.75
World Cup finals match x 2.00
This means that qualifying matches are weighted 50% higher than friendlies, continental final round matches 75 % higher and matches during World Cup finals twice as much.

3.5 Regional strength factors

It is accepted that there are differences in strength between the various continents. To take these into account in an objective manner, weighting factors are worked out each year for each of the confederations. The basis of evaluation for each continent is the performance of its teams in direct intercontinental encounters. At the end of every year a continental ranking list is calculated, based on the same criteria as used for the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking.

Taken into consideration are not all the intercontinental matches played by teams from a given continent, but only the direct confrontations between the strongest teams from each continent. Specifically this means that what is included are matches between the best 25 per cent of the teams from a given continent (with a minimum of 5 teams being considered). This way the danger is averted of errors possibly being introduced by considering matches between strong teams of a weak confederation against weak teams of a strong one.

The weightings are applied in the form of multiplication factors for teams from the same continent (see below). If teams from two different confederations are involved then the factor applied is the average of the two continental weightings.

For 2005, the following weighting factors will apply:

UEFA x 1.00
CONMEBOL x 0.99
CAF x 0.96
CONCACAF x 0.94
AFC x 0.93
OFC x 0.93


3.6 Summary

Based on the above considerations, the total number of points credited to a team after a match will depend on the following criteria:

Points for winning, drawing or losing
Plus the points for goals scored in this game
Minus points for the goals conceded
Plus a bonus for the away team
Multiplied by the appropriate factor for the status of the match
Multiplied by the appropriate factor for regional strength
The number of points for a win, draw or loss, as well as for the number of goals scored or conceded is dependent on the strength of the opponent. In order not to punish a lack of success too severely, a negative points total is rounded up to 0.00.

4. EXAMPLES OF ACTUAL CALCULATIONS

Some actual examples should help to make the methods of calculation clear. In this instance it is assumed that three teams of different strengths are involved in a small friendly tournament on neutral territory. For the sake of clarity no away team bonus, nor continental or status multiplication factors are applied.

Before the tournament the three team have the following points totals:

Team A: 630 points
Team B: 500 points
Team C: 480 points
Thus, team A is by some distance the highest ranked of the three:

The following table shows the points allocations based on three possible outcomes of the match between the strongest team A, and the somewhat weaker team B:

Example 1: Team A - Team B (Team A stronger than Team B)


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Team A Team B Team A Team B Team A Team B
3 : 1 1 : 3 2 : 2

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Win/defeate +17.4 +2.6 -2.6 +22.6 +7.4 +12.6
Goals for Team A +5.4 -3.6 +2.3 -1.6 +4.1 -2.7
Goals for Team B -1.8 +2.7 -4.1 +6.2 -3.1 +4.7
Total +21.0 +1.7 (0.00) +27.2 +8.4 +14.6

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From the table it can be seen that in the case of a 3:1 win, team A is allocated a total of 21.0 points. But as the more highly ranked team, the win itself only earns 17.4 of these. The lower-rated team B still earns 1.7 points. Had the "weaker" team B won the match 3:1, they would have received 27.4 points, while the then negative total for team A would have been rounded up to 0.00. For a 2:2 draw, team B would have earned a few points more than A, for being the lower-rated team.

When the difference in strength between the two teams is less, so also will be the difference in points allocation. The following table illustrates how the points would be divided following the same results as above, but with two roughly equally ranked teams, B and C, being involved:



Example 2: Team B - Team C (both teams approximately the same strength)


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Team B Team C Team B Team C Team B Team C
3 : 1 1 : 3 2 : 2

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Win/defeate +19.6 +0.4 -0.4 +20.4 +9.6 +10.4
Goals for Team B +5.7 -3.8 +2.5 -1.7 +4.3 -2.9
Goals for Team C -1.7 +2.5 -3.9 +5.8 -3.0 +4.4
Total +23.6 (0.00) (0.00) +24.5 +10.9 +11.9

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In this case, it can be seen that for either team, approximately the same number of points would be awarded for a win or a draw, with team C getting slightly more since they are ranked a little lower.

There would normally be a bonus for the away team, which would be added to the above. Then the total would be multiplied by weighting factors that take into account the importance of the match and the regional strengths. Thus, for example, if the games above had been played during a World Cup final round, then the points total would first be doubled, and then multiplied by the continental weighting factor for the two teams involved.

5. FURTHER CRITERIA

To obtain a greater degree of objectivity in the ranking list, two further criteria have to be considered:

The number of matches a team plays within a given period of time
The importance to be attached to results from previous years.
5.1 The number of matches played

So that teams playing more international matches are not favoured over those playing fewer, only a limited number of games are taken into consideration. This number has been determined by deciding on what could be termed the "averagely active teams", and these were agreed on as those having played between seven and ten matches per year.

So that less active teams are not disadvantaged in the ranking, the calculation initially considers only the seven best results. Further results are included, by working out an average for them.

The situation is best clarified by means of an example. Suppose a team plays twelve matches; then the calculation would run like this:

The best seven of the 12 results are identified
The total score for these seven matches is calculated (X)
The total score for all 12 matches is calculated
This total is divided by 12 and multiplied by seven (Y)
The total for the seven best results is added to the seven "average" results (X+Y)
This total (X+Y) is divided by two for the final score


5.2 Previous results

So that the ranking accurately reflects current form, the greatest importance is attached to matches played in the last twelve months. But attention is also paid to results from previous years. Basically, the current year's points total is averaged in with points earned in the seven preceding years, with weightings that decline progressively the further back we go. After eight years, results are dropped from the calculation altogether.

Thus the points included in the calculations for the ranking at the end of 2003 would comprise the following:

Last 12 months (e.g. 2003) : 8/8 value

+ previous year (2002) : 7/8 value
+ previous year (2001) : 6/8 value
+ previous year (2000) : 5/8 value
+ previous year (1999) : 4/8 value
+ previous year (1998) : 3/8 value
+ previous year (1997) : 2/8 value
+ previous year (1996) : 1/8 value
6. AWARDS

The "Team of the Year" goes to the team that notches up the seven matches of the year reaping the overall highest average number of points during the year.

The award for the "Best Mover of the Year" in the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking is not based simply on the biggest jump in the number of points or in the number of places up the ranking ladder. What also has to be taken into consideration is the fact that it becomes progressively harder for a team to earn points the more it already has.

Thus to decide on the " Best Mover of the Year " a calculation is performed that multiplies the number of points a team has at the end of the year [x] by the number it has earned during the year [y]. The team with the highest index obtained in this way wins the award.

The table below shows the calculation for the year 2002.


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Team Points at end of
2002(x) Points won in
2002 (y) Total
(x * y)

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1. Senegal 646 107 69122
2. Wales 554 113 62602
3. Brazil 856 63 53928
4. Cameroon 685 76 52060
5. Mali 490 99 48510

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7. THE COMPUTER PROGRAM

The program for calculating and up-dating the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking was developed for FIFA by two specialists, Dr. Markus Lamprecht and Dr. Hanspeter Stamm. The development of the program (including the 1999 revisions) was carried out in close co-operation with football experts, and the Communications and Competitions Divisions of FIFA. SO RICOO :red-card:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: HA RICOO READ THIS ENLIGHTEN URSELF REALLY REALLY UNDERSTAND THE FIFA RANKINGS, I'M NOT A BIG FAN O THEM BUT IF U CARREFULLY READ THEM U WITH THE HELP OF YOUR DADDY MIGHT UNDERSTAND THEM. !!!SUCKA FIFA RANKINGS DO NOT CLAIM THAT ONE TEAM IS BETTER THAN ANOTHER ONE ALL IT DOES IS TO KEEP UP WITH POINTS PLAYED IN FRIENDLY MATCHES AND INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENTS U DUMB FUK!!! AHAHAH FOR UR FUKING PIECE SHIT BRAIN OF YOURS... T&T, CUBA, EL SALVADOR, GUATEMALA, HONDURAS, SAN VICENTE, JAMAICA OR ANY CARIBEAN TEAM HAD PARTICIPATED IN ANY OF THE TOURNAMENTS THAT MEXICO HAS PARTICIPATED THE GOLD CUP OR CONFEDERATIONS CUP OR COPA AMERICA EXEPT CONCACAF QUALIFICATIONS SO SHUT THE FUK UP BIATCH CAUSE YOU'RE JUST TALKING PURE PAIN AND ANGER

RICOO THE WORLD BEST EXPERIENCED CRITIC:boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :D :D :D IT'S FUNNY YA

[Albais#1]

Facts? We all know how FIFA ranks the teams. The only fact is that its stupid. U really must be a retard to think u r making sense. U r the only one arguing for FIFA RANKINGS....even ALL ur mexican "allies" say its worth shit, Why dont u try convincing them its good, they will all tell u the same shit and they r against me. :evil: Thats why i wont waste my time discussin incongruent, unintelligible arguments with a child. U will have to come up with something better kid. ;)



whatever helps you go to sleep at night
you keep saying that to urself pumpkin!:lol: :lol: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Jackass88]

Captain Tsubasa shut the ***k up allready man just stop fighting with that ***ken fag ricoo9, Captain Tsubasa your a good guy for defending the CONCACAF you're a very wise guy. It seems that you now what you are talking about. Captain Tsubasa man, stop wirting long ass posts man because I don't want to spen three hours trying to read one ***ken post!!!!

P.S. ricoo9 and handofgod are ***ken ass lickers.

Mexico Foe Life!!! :lock1:

[Albais#1]

:ranger: :Pray: :Pray: :Pray: captaintsuba you have no life finding alll the time to post something sooo long an stupid!
baby jessus frowns on u!

[Captain Tsubasa]

Copy And Paste Fools
Bottom Line I Hate Suckas That Like To Talk Shit About Other Countries Jusy Because They Don't Have Soccer History, According To Ricoo Oviously The Teams That Won The World Cups In The 60's And 70's Remain Beign Untouchables Wow Soccer Has Change This Is 2006 And No Body Can Say I'm Better Than You No Fuk No Not Any More

[Captain Tsubasa]

Copy And Paste Fools
Bottom Line I Hate Suckas That Like To Talk Shit About Other Countries Jusy Because They Don't Have Soccer History, According To Ricoo Oviously The Teams That Won The World Cups In The 60's And 70's Remain Beign Untouchables Wow Soccer Has Change This Is 2006 And No Body Can Say I'm Better Than You No Fuk No Not Any More

[Captain Tsubasa]

HA RICOO FORGET ABOUT FIFA RANKINGS THOSE FIFA SUCKERS DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BUT YOU DO RIGHT?
i FEEL SO RRY FRO PERU CAUSE THEY HAVE IT REALLY HARD TO QUALIFY FOR THE WC UNLIKE MEXICO (T&T, CUBA, EL SALVADOR, GUATEMALA, HONDURAS, SAN VICENTE, JAMAICA) WHAT ABOUT EUROPEAN POWERS? (LATVIA,SLOVANIA,BELARUS,POLONIA,ESTONIA,CYPRUS,LUXEMBURGH,LITHUANIA,GEORGIA,MALTA, SLOVAKIA) GET REAL GIVE MEXICO ANY TEAM AND YOU WILL SEE IF THEY QUALIFY OR NOT BUT FOR SURE THEY WON'T BE THE WORST TEAM UNLIKE PERU OH BY THE WAY MAYBE ENGLAND'S GROUP WAS ENGLAND GERMANY CZECH REP AND ITALY; OH AND PORTUGAL'S GROUP WAS PORTUGAL SPAIN, HOLLAND, POLAND; OR DID THEY ALL QUALIFY AGAINST THE ABOVE TEAMS? CHEERS RICOO
GOD BLESS U

[ricoo9]

Copy And Paste Fools
Bottom Line I Hate Suckas That Like To Talk Shit About Other Countries Jusy Because They Don't Have Soccer History, According To Ricoo Oviously The Teams That Won The World Cups In The 60's And 70's Remain Beign Untouchables Wow Soccer Has Change This Is 2006 And No Body Can Say I'm Better Than You No Fuk No Not Any More

What u need to do is go back to school son, and take some history classes. What u will learn is, history tends to repeat itself. As u can see there is a circle of wc winners, we dont see Africans winnin the wc or Asians, It has never left the European and south american powers and never will either for the fact that it continuosly repeats itself, even with the exception of first time winners france in 98 they were still within that circle of 'football powers'. But if u really think Mexico or any central american team is better than any of these "old powers" from the 60's then u r just being foolish. These old powers u talk about r still Powers today, yes, I will agree that a few teams like Mexico, Korea, USA, have gotten more competitive but they r still light years away from becoming a Football Force. If u check the results from everysingle WC in history, u will see that it has always been the same teams, again History repeats itself and u will see that in this years wc as well. My prediction for the finals, It will be 2 European teams, most likely Italy vs. someone else. ;)

And here, http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=40679 so u can educate urself in a better ranking system, This system is actually older than the FIFA system and is much more accurate.

[ricoo9]

HA RICOO FORGET ABOUT FIFA RANKINGS THOSE FIFA SUCKERS DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BUT YOU DO RIGHT?
i FEEL SO RRY FRO PERU CAUSE THEY HAVE IT REALLY HARD TO QUALIFY FOR THE WC UNLIKE MEXICO (T&T, CUBA, EL SALVADOR, GUATEMALA, HONDURAS, SAN VICENTE, JAMAICA) WHAT ABOUT EUROPEAN POWERS? (LATVIA,SLOVANIA,BELARUS,POLONIA,ESTONIA,CYPRUS,LUXEMBURGH,LITHUANIA,GEORGIA,MALTA, SLOVAKIA) GET REAL GIVE MEXICO ANY TEAM AND YOU WILL SEE IF THEY QUALIFY OR NOT BUT FOR SURE THEY WON'T BE THE WORST TEAM UNLIKE PERU OH BY THE WAY MAYBE ENGLAND'S GROUP WAS ENGLAND GERMANY CZECH REP AND ITALY; OH AND PORTUGAL'S GROUP WAS PORTUGAL SPAIN, HOLLAND, POLAND; OR DID THEY ALL QUALIFY AGAINST THE ABOVE TEAMS? CHEERS RICOO
GOD BLESS U

England got left out of a recent cup, so did Holland, and they r much better teams than Mexico. Spain almost got knocked out of this edition as well, so what makes u think Mexico would just roll over any team? U see FIFAchamp, UNAM, This guy is a perfect example of what i've been saying since i got to this forum, U guys hype ur team up so much that at the end most of u think ur the best team in the world or some shit. Get out of ur cloud man, its really sad to watch ppl like u. :faint2:

[handofgod]

:tea: RICOO don't be lame post your own ideas.. well RICOO I'm a have to call you master cause according to you FIFA aint worth shit so please enlight me with your knowledge.
READ THIS THAN TALK SHIT, CAUSE I KNOW TO U ARGENTINA, ITALY, ENGLAND and SPAIN ARE UNTOCHABLE AND THAT NO MATTER THAT THEY ARE SUCKING ASS THEY WILL BE YOUR HEROES
THIS IS FUTBOL NOW A DAYS DUMB FUKC.

1. BACKGROUND AND HISTORY

In August 1993 FIFA, working in co-operation with the Coca-Cola Company, introduced a ranking system for senior national teams. The system makes it possible to publish comparisons of the relative strengths of internationally active teams at regular intervals.



Since its introduction, the FIFA/Coca-Cola Ranking has proved to be a reliable measure for comparing national A-teams. Over the years, some of the details of the ranking process have proved to be in need of improvement, and appropriate revised versions were put into effect at the beginning of 1999.

The following is an overview of the revised basis on which the ranking is calculated. By providing explanations of the various criteria involved and some concrete examples, it is hoped that it will be easier in future to understand and interpret the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking List.

2. OVERVIEW

The FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking includes the national A-teams of all FIFA member associations who play international matches. Not included in the calculation are matches played by junior teams or other representative national sides (such as the women's national team).

Taken into consideration for the ranking are all international-A match results over a time span of the last eight years:

World Cup finals matches
World Cup preliminary matches
FIFA Confederations Cup matches
Continental championship final matches
Continental championship preliminary matches
Friendly matches
The ranking list is produced by a computer program which assigns a team points for every match, according to clearly defined criteria. The factors taken into consideration are:

Winning, drawing and losing
Number of goals
Home or away match
Importance of the match (multiplication factor)
Regional strength (multiplication factor)
For each team only the seven best results per year are given full weighting. Results from the past are given progressively less weighting year by year until after eight years they are dropped completely. In this way current success is rated more highly than past results.

At the end of each year, two awards are given. The "Team of the Year" goes to the team that notches up the seven matches of the year reaping the overall highest average number of points during the year. "Best Mover of the year" is the one that has made the most progress in the course of the previous twelve months (see Section 6).



3. BASIC CALCULATION PRINCIPLES AND SOME EXAMPLES

The basic idea behind the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Rankings is the same as that for a normal championship: a team can win a certain number of points for each match, depending on the results, and the points are totalled. The association with the highest total is at the top of the ranking list.

But by contrast to normal league championships, for the World Ranking a team's points for a match do not depend solely on whether they win, lose or draw. Also affecting the total for a match will be the number of goals scored and conceded, the venue and the importance of the match. In addition, the strength of the opponent is considered, so that a win over a weakly rated opponent will earn fewer points than one against a strongly rated one. This means that a win will not simply bring two or three points and a draw one, as would happen in a national league. The calculation is more complicated since it incorporates the factors mentioned above.

To make the ranking list more understandable, the 1999 revision has been "scaled up". Previously, a win could earn between one and three points; now the scale has been multiplied by ten, so a win can bring between ten and thirty points, according to the opponent. The overall totals of teams in the list will from now on range from 0 up to about 800 points.

The following sections give details of the individual weighting criteria, and the results of applying these principles can be seen in some examples in Section 4.

3.1. Winning, drawing or losing

Naturally a win will bring more points than a defeat in any system, but simply giving two or three points for a win, one for a draw and none for a defeat, would not fully meet all the requirements for a reliable world-wide ranking system.

Therefore the distribution of points also takes into consideration the relative strengths of the two teams. In practice this means that a win over a weaker opponent will earn fewer points than victory over an equally rated or stronger one. It is also possible for a weak team that puts up a good show against a stronger one to earn points in defeat - though as a general rule not as many as the stronger team that beat them. (see example in Section 4).

A special exception is made for matches that are decided on penalties; the winning team earns the full number of points for a win, while the losing team gets the number of points that would have been awarded for a draw.

3.2 Number of goals

A further factor taken into consideration is the number of goals scored and conceded in a match. Here too the distribution of these points depends on the relative strengths of the two teams. In other words, a goal scored by the lower-rated team will be weighted more than one scored by the higher-rated side. On the other side of the balance sheet, points are deducted for goals conceded. To encourage attacking football with more goals, goals conceded are weighted less than goals scored. In matches decided on penalties, only goals scored during regular playing time or extra time are considered in the calculation.

A possible "overweighting" of goals is avoided by attaching more importance to the first goal that a team scores than to any subsequent ones. On the whole, the number of goals scored can never earn as many points as would be awarded for a win. This is in accordance with the general principle that while more goals may make the result look more impressive, in the final reckoning - as in normal league championships - it is winning or losing that is decisive.



3.3 Home and away games

To make an allowance for the extra handicap of playing away from home, the away-team is awarded a small bonus of 3 points. For games played on neutral territory or during World Cup final rounds there are no such bonus points.

3.4 Status of a match

The importance of a game is also considered - a World Cup encounter is weighted more heavily than a friendly match. The method applied here is to use a pre-calculated factor by which the points totals of a given match are multiplied.

The factors used are:

Friendly match x 1.00
Continental championship preliminary x 1.50
World Cup preliminary match x 1.50
Continental championship finals match x 1.75
FIFA Confederations Cup match x 1.75
World Cup finals match x 2.00
This means that qualifying matches are weighted 50% higher than friendlies, continental final round matches 75 % higher and matches during World Cup finals twice as much.

3.5 Regional strength factors

It is accepted that there are differences in strength between the various continents. To take these into account in an objective manner, weighting factors are worked out each year for each of the confederations. The basis of evaluation for each continent is the performance of its teams in direct intercontinental encounters. At the end of every year a continental ranking list is calculated, based on the same criteria as used for the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking.

Taken into consideration are not all the intercontinental matches played by teams from a given continent, but only the direct confrontations between the strongest teams from each continent. Specifically this means that what is included are matches between the best 25 per cent of the teams from a given continent (with a minimum of 5 teams being considered). This way the danger is averted of errors possibly being introduced by considering matches between strong teams of a weak confederation against weak teams of a strong one.

The weightings are applied in the form of multiplication factors for teams from the same continent (see below). If teams from two different confederations are involved then the factor applied is the average of the two continental weightings.

For 2005, the following weighting factors will apply:

UEFA x 1.00
CONMEBOL x 0.99
CAF x 0.96
CONCACAF x 0.94
AFC x 0.93
OFC x 0.93


3.6 Summary

Based on the above considerations, the total number of points credited to a team after a match will depend on the following criteria:

Points for winning, drawing or losing
Plus the points for goals scored in this game
Minus points for the goals conceded
Plus a bonus for the away team
Multiplied by the appropriate factor for the status of the match
Multiplied by the appropriate factor for regional strength
The number of points for a win, draw or loss, as well as for the number of goals scored or conceded is dependent on the strength of the opponent. In order not to punish a lack of success too severely, a negative points total is rounded up to 0.00.

4. EXAMPLES OF ACTUAL CALCULATIONS

Some actual examples should help to make the methods of calculation clear. In this instance it is assumed that three teams of different strengths are involved in a small friendly tournament on neutral territory. For the sake of clarity no away team bonus, nor continental or status multiplication factors are applied.

Before the tournament the three team have the following points totals:

Team A: 630 points
Team B: 500 points
Team C: 480 points
Thus, team A is by some distance the highest ranked of the three:

The following table shows the points allocations based on three possible outcomes of the match between the strongest team A, and the somewhat weaker team B:

Example 1: Team A - Team B (Team A stronger than Team B)


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Team A Team B Team A Team B Team A Team B
3 : 1 1 : 3 2 : 2

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Win/defeate +17.4 +2.6 -2.6 +22.6 +7.4 +12.6
Goals for Team A +5.4 -3.6 +2.3 -1.6 +4.1 -2.7
Goals for Team B -1.8 +2.7 -4.1 +6.2 -3.1 +4.7
Total +21.0 +1.7 (0.00) +27.2 +8.4 +14.6

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From the table it can be seen that in the case of a 3:1 win, team A is allocated a total of 21.0 points. But as the more highly ranked team, the win itself only earns 17.4 of these. The lower-rated team B still earns 1.7 points. Had the "weaker" team B won the match 3:1, they would have received 27.4 points, while the then negative total for team A would have been rounded up to 0.00. For a 2:2 draw, team B would have earned a few points more than A, for being the lower-rated team.

When the difference in strength between the two teams is less, so also will be the difference in points allocation. The following table illustrates how the points would be divided following the same results as above, but with two roughly equally ranked teams, B and C, being involved:



Example 2: Team B - Team C (both teams approximately the same strength)


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Team B Team C Team B Team C Team B Team C
3 : 1 1 : 3 2 : 2

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Win/defeate +19.6 +0.4 -0.4 +20.4 +9.6 +10.4
Goals for Team B +5.7 -3.8 +2.5 -1.7 +4.3 -2.9
Goals for Team C -1.7 +2.5 -3.9 +5.8 -3.0 +4.4
Total +23.6 (0.00) (0.00) +24.5 +10.9 +11.9

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In this case, it can be seen that for either team, approximately the same number of points would be awarded for a win or a draw, with team C getting slightly more since they are ranked a little lower.

There would normally be a bonus for the away team, which would be added to the above. Then the total would be multiplied by weighting factors that take into account the importance of the match and the regional strengths. Thus, for example, if the games above had been played during a World Cup final round, then the points total would first be doubled, and then multiplied by the continental weighting factor for the two teams involved.

5. FURTHER CRITERIA

To obtain a greater degree of objectivity in the ranking list, two further criteria have to be considered:

The number of matches a team plays within a given period of time
The importance to be attached to results from previous years.
5.1 The number of matches played

So that teams playing more international matches are not favoured over those playing fewer, only a limited number of games are taken into consideration. This number has been determined by deciding on what could be termed the "averagely active teams", and these were agreed on as those having played between seven and ten matches per year.

So that less active teams are not disadvantaged in the ranking, the calculation initially considers only the seven best results. Further results are included, by working out an average for them.

The situation is best clarified by means of an example. Suppose a team plays twelve matches; then the calculation would run like this:

The best seven of the 12 results are identified
The total score for these seven matches is calculated (X)
The total score for all 12 matches is calculated
This total is divided by 12 and multiplied by seven (Y)
The total for the seven best results is added to the seven "average" results (X+Y)
This total (X+Y) is divided by two for the final score


5.2 Previous results

So that the ranking accurately reflects current form, the greatest importance is attached to matches played in the last twelve months. But attention is also paid to results from previous years. Basically, the current year's points total is averaged in with points earned in the seven preceding years, with weightings that decline progressively the further back we go. After eight years, results are dropped from the calculation altogether.

Thus the points included in the calculations for the ranking at the end of 2003 would comprise the following:

Last 12 months (e.g. 2003) : 8/8 value

+ previous year (2002) : 7/8 value
+ previous year (2001) : 6/8 value
+ previous year (2000) : 5/8 value
+ previous year (1999) : 4/8 value
+ previous year (1998) : 3/8 value
+ previous year (1997) : 2/8 value
+ previous year (1996) : 1/8 value
6. AWARDS

The "Team of the Year" goes to the team that notches up the seven matches of the year reaping the overall highest average number of points during the year.

The award for the "Best Mover of the Year" in the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking is not based simply on the biggest jump in the number of points or in the number of places up the ranking ladder. What also has to be taken into consideration is the fact that it becomes progressively harder for a team to earn points the more it already has.

Thus to decide on the " Best Mover of the Year " a calculation is performed that multiplies the number of points a team has at the end of the year [x] by the number it has earned during the year [y]. The team with the highest index obtained in this way wins the award.

The table below shows the calculation for the year 2002.


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Team Points at end of
2002(x) Points won in
2002 (y) Total
(x * y)

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1. Senegal 646 107 69122
2. Wales 554 113 62602
3. Brazil 856 63 53928
4. Cameroon 685 76 52060
5. Mali 490 99 48510

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7. THE COMPUTER PROGRAM

The program for calculating and up-dating the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking was developed for FIFA by two specialists, Dr. Markus Lamprecht and Dr. Hanspeter Stamm. The development of the program (including the 1999 revisions) was carried out in close co-operation with football experts, and the Communications and Competitions Divisions of FIFA. SO RICOO :red-card:


GET A LIFE DUMB FUK!!!

NO ONE IS READING YOUR ENTIRE POSTS EVEN IF U R JUST COPYING AND PASTING THEM FUKING RETARD.

U JUST GIVE A BAD NAME TO MEXICAN DUDES HERE. I KNOW RICOO OR MYSELF AIN'T EXACTLY THE MOST POPULAR DUDES FOR THE MEXICAN FAITHFUL BUT WE HAVE AGREED SEVERAL TIMES MEXICO HAS A GOOD TEAM AND DESERVED TO BE IN THE WC, BUT SAYING MEXICO HAS A BETTER SHOT THAN ARGENTINA, BRAZIL, ITALY, ENGLAND, ETC, IS FUKIN IDIOTIC YOU FUKIN ASSWIPE!!!

[Shahbaz]

he is a spammer lol

[el chingon]

GET A LIFE DUMB FUK!!!

NO ONE IT'S READING YOUR ENTIRE POSTS EVEN IF U R JUST COPYING AND PASTING THEM FUKING RETARD.

U JUST GIVE A BAD NAME TO MEXICAN DUDES HERE. I KNOW RICOO OR MYSELF AIN'T EXACTLY THE MOST POPULAR DUDES FOR THE MEXICAN FAITHFUL BUT WE HAVE AGREED SEVERAL TIMES MEXICO HAS A GOOD TEAM AND DESERVED TO BE IN THE WC, BUT SAYING MEXICO HAS A BETTER SHOT THAN ARGENTINA, BRAZIL, ITALY, ENGLAND, ETC, IS FUKIN IDIOTIC YOU FUKIN ASSWIPE!!!

i read the first paragraph then i quited after i realized how long it was:D

[Shahbaz]

I also couldn't read it the size of that font hurts my eyes

[VOICE OF REASON]

Mexico could easly qualify in Europe and/or South America

comon it's not like Europeans have it that hard;1 superior team (like Italy) 2 shawdows (like norway) and then the rest are San Marino, Estonia etc.

[ricoo9]

i read the first paragraph then i quited after i realized how long it was:D

whats wrong? they didnt teach u how to read? :rolleyes:

[el chingon]

whats wrong? they didnt teach u how to read? :rolleyes:

i can read i just didnt feel like reading all that

[ZabbaZibba]

i say lets bring it back to the Americas where the Cup belongs weather it's us,braz,Mex,Par,Ecu,...even U.S.

''Wish all you guys Good Luck''.....