THE DERBY: Official thread

[valdanito_10]

this saturday we face our eternal rivals AS Roma and we are looking for revenege on what has happend on the last coukpe of season and we are looking to finally beat roma again!

up to kow we have a full squad available to play against romaz

[MarieL]

I hope we still have the full squad after the Wisla game as well! I just fear not because nowadays in almost every match somebody gets injured.
But I just can't wait! Only 4 days! We have to beat them, FINALLY!

[CHRISTOS]

I'm very hopeful for Saturdays derby, i believe in our victory against roma than every time before.


I can't wait too MarieL ;)

[ahmed]

Che vinca che perda la roma resta merda..
Non mollare mai, lazio..
nessuna resa nesun lamento linea di condotta combatimento..
combattenti della curva nord;)

[romansky]

Perhaps qualifying for the semi-final of the UEFA Cup is even more important than il derby, but what a week! No doubt Lazio's season comes down to the next 2 games.

<b>RRRRROOOOOOMMMMMMMAAAAAA
MMMMMEEEEERRRRRRDDDDDDAAAA</b>

[ahmed]

FORZA LAZIO E NON MOLLARE mAI

A S R O M A M E R D A

[MarieL]

It's getting closer and closer. I just hope our players won't be too tired after the Wisla match coz I so want to win this. It's about time!
Forza Lazio!!!!

[ahmed]

dont worry we'll kick their assssssssssssssssss:D

[Komik 9]

I just hope that Stankovic's thigh is OK after he limped off the pitch against Wisla, he is very imoportant for Lazio.
Does anybody know anything about that injury?

[valdanito_10]

im pretty sure hes ok, it would have been on the news!


and why is it every time we face roma totti has some sort of fuss, now hes sick, what a woos and i bet he will end up playing

[Romanista10]

No Totti is not playing. He caught the flu virus that plagued Candela, Pelizzoli, and Panucci. And they missed a game or two each. He has a high grade fever and will not play Saturday. Roma will use a (4-4-2) formation with Delvecchio and Montella in attack.

[romansky]

I'm sure that Deki will find a way to be fit for il derby. Did everyone see that ball he cleared off the line yesterday, brilliant!

The same goes for Totti, he'll have to be extremely ill to miss the game, obviously we would not mind him on the bench though :D

[valdanito_10]

i want totti to play so we can prove merda that we can beatthem with a full squad

[Darran]

With or without Totti, we will beat them and fight our hardest. That is a fact and no one can change it.

[MarieL]

I wouldn't be surprised if totti played, even with fever. What would be a better opportunity to spread the flu all over our squad? :rolleyes:
I gotta say I'm sort of hoping he'll play coz I want to win the whole squad, but of course it would make our job a lot easier if he didn't. All roma's attacks seem to go through that man.

[ahmed]

Roma ace Francesco Totti could be out of the derby game against Lazio because of illness.

The Italian missed training today after he recorded a fever of 39 degrees on Wednesday evening.

Boss Fabio Capello is unlikely to risk the attacking sensation in the Saturday night clash with the crucial game against Arsenal coming up.

The Giallorossi could still qualify for the last eight of the Champions’ League if they beat the Premiership champions at Highbury on Tuesday.

However, Totti’s absence in the Olimpico clash could be cushioned if Roma are successful in their bid to reduce Antonio Cassano’s two-match ban.

The Under-21 international missed last week’s game against Empoli but could return for the derby if the club’s appeal against his suspension is successful.

[ahmed]

Antonio Cassano will miss the derby against Lazio after Roma’s appeal against his suspension proved unsuccessful.

The troubled Under-21 international was handed a two-game ban after insulting the fourth official following the 2-1 loss at Udinese.

Cassano already missed last week’s win over Empoli but the club tried to get his ban reduced so that he could be available for Saturday’s Olimpico showdown.

However, the Disciplinary Commission have rejected the Giallorossi’s argument that Cassano’s outburst was directed at the Roma substitutes bench and not the official.

The unavailability of the former Bari prodigy is a major blow for boss Fabio Capello as he is also expected to be without the flu-hit Francesco Totti.

Capello is now likely to field a front two of Vincenzo Montella and Massimo Marazzina against their city cousins.

[Komik 9]

The probable lineup according to Soccerage's preview is:

Lazio: (4-4-2) Marchegiani; Stam, Negro, Couto, Favalli; Fiore, Giannichedda, Stankovic, Cesar; Corradi, Lopez

They also wrote that Mihajlovic is still injured, but on Lazio's official website www.sslazio.it it says that he had a full training and will be injury free for the game, same goes for D. Baggio.
However both Pancaro and Peruzzi seem not available due to injuries.

[ahmed]

Round three of the Rumble for Rome is set to take place at the Stadio Olimpico on Saturday night where Lazio will be looking strengthen their bid for a champions league while at the same time extinguishing the flickering Uefa Cup aspirations of their eternal rivals Roma.

Fabio Capello's side have gotten slightly the better of their two previous meetings this campaign, as an enthralling 2-2 tie early in the season was followed by a hard-earned 2-1 victory for Roma in the first-leg of the Coppa Italia Semifinal. A scintillating strike by Emerson ended up being the winner in that one, as it was sandwiched by a free-header by Cassano and a classy finish by Fiore.

Though Biancoceleste boss Roberto Mancini insisted that his team will continue fighting for the title until the mathematics make it an impossibility, even the most optimistic of Laziali must realize that ten points to make up on Juventus at this advanced stage is too tall an order, especially considering that they would have to overhaul both Milan sides as well.

Lazio are, however, still going strong in the Uefa Cup and booked a place opposite Besiktas in the quarterfinals on the strength of a 2-1 (5-4 on agg) victory away to plucky Polish competitors Wisla Krakow on Thursday.

Despite the icy playing conditions, Lazio showed many flashes of the fluid one-touch football that they have become renown for under 'Mancio'. The tie, however, was ultimately decided by a moment of inspiration by Enrico Chiesa, who will probably be limited to contributing as a substitute on Saturday.

Roma have had even more cause for celebration of late, as they followed a totally unexpected 3-0 drubbing of Valencia in Spain with 3-1 win over Empoli in the league. The back-to-back victories have breathed new life into the Giallorossi camp since they are suddenly right back in it in the Champions League and have reinserted themselves in the equation for the next edition of the Uefa Cup.

LATEST TEAM NEWS

Not surprisingly, Francesco Totti has been the prime proponent behind Roma's mini-renaissance, but his participation on Saturday is in serious doubt unless he manages to shake off what appears to be quite a severe case of the flu. His natural replacement Antonio Cassano has definitely been ruled out of the derby after the Italian league's disciplinary committee decided against pardoning his two-match ban for verbally assaulting the match officials during the Udinese defeat. While their attack has been compromised, Roma's defense has been strengthened by the return of Jonathan Zebina from a one-game suspension.

Roma: (4-4-2) Pelizzoli; Zebina, Samuel, Aldair, Panucci; Cafu, Emerson, Dacourt, Lima; Delvecchio, Montella


Lazio will be virtually at full strength for this one, bar the continued absence of Angelo Peruzzi. Sinisa Mihajlovic and Giuseppe Pancaro are also out injured, though whether they would have been in Mancini's staring XI had they been healthy is debatable. Giuliano Giannichedda is expected to get the nod ahead of Diego Simeone to anchor Lazio's midfield, while the front-line will almost certainly be comprised of Claudio Lopez and Bernardo Corradi.

Lazio: (4-4-2) Marchegiani; Stam, Negro, Couto, Favalli; Fiore, Giannichedda, Stankovic, Cesar; Corradi, Lopez

FORM GUIDE

Roma – last 6 matches (all comps): TTLLWW

Very rarely have Roma been able to celebrate two victories in a row this campaign and the fact that the usually shot-shy squad has been able to score six goals in the process is added cause for optimism. Before that the Romanisti had suffered the indignity of being held by lowly Modena and Brescia and being beaten by Valencia and Udinese.

Lazio – last 6 matches (all comps): TTTTTW

Before Thursday it had been a long time since Lazio were last able to notch up a 'W' despite having produced some very attractive football during the run of five draws in a row, especially against away to AC Milan and Perugia.

LOOK OUT FOR

Roma: Montella finally looked like the Vincenzo of old against Empoli last weekend, as he capped a fine overall performance with the game winner and an insurance goal. How well he does with his first opportunity on goal on Saturday could very well go a long way in determining whether he will be back with a vengeance or slump straight back into slumber mode.

Lazio: Bernardo Corradi has bolstered his reputation since arriving from Chievo in the summer and has proved the perfect foil for the speed-demon that is Claudio Lopez with his powerful aerial presence and ability to hold up the ball. Scoring a goal against the sworn enemy would make him ten times more popular wit the Lazio tifosi than he has already managed to become in such a short amount of time.

[romansky]

So essentially it's the same first XI we saw in Cracow but with Corradi & Giannichedda replacing Simeone & Chiesa. I understood the initial logic of pairing Gianni & Fiore after their time together in Udine but they've not really proven the logic behind that idea. With all the creativity Mancini has in centrocampo with Deki & Cesar in addition to SF, Simeone seems the better fit just now. & who hasn't lost confidence in GG recently? With his form Corradi should be back in there but what a luxury to have Chiesa off the bench.

[Komik 9]

"Good news come from the training this afternoon, which began at 16.00. Mihajlovic, Stankovic, D.Baggio and Peruzzi have carried out the training with the rest of the team that is fit. "

Lopez has a cold, but shouldn't be a problem.

This is from lazio's official site.

I'm getting nervous.....have to remain cool :cool:

[Romanista10]

Even better news....Francesco Totti has recovered from his fever and will start in attack on Saturday night. Also, Cassano's suspension has been overturned and he will be available against lazio.

[Komik 9]

That's good news for you, but i have to tell you that the player I fear most is Delvecchio. Very tricky player.

[romansky]

Originally posted by Komik 9
That's good news for you, but i have to tell you that the player I fear most is Delvecchio. Very tricky player.

Right, MDV has been deadly against Lazio in the derby recently, that Totti will play is no surprise, FT would not miss this game! As for Cassano's suspension over-turned, mi sono morso la lingua :D

[Romanista10]

Roma will use a (4-4-2) formation with Totti and Montella in attack and SuperMarco Delvecchio (9 Derby goals) as left winger. But in reality when Roma decides to attack the lazio defense....Delvecchio will come forward, Totti will drop back behind the strikers and form a (4-3-1-2).

[Giancarlo Lahoz]

Lazio from the bottom of my heart i wish you the best of luck and because of the hate i feel twards roma


FORZA LAZIO
FORZA LAZIO
FORZA INTER


Best of luck to Lopez worst of luck to Totti beat them 10 - 1
FORZA LAZIO

[Darran]

We have a full strength side with the exception of Peruzzi. So the line up is very likely to be (4-4-2): Marchegiani, Stam, Favalli, Mihajlovic, Negro, Fiore, Cesar, Gianichedda, Stankovic, Lopez, Corradi.

[sslazioMelopez]

Hey Come on guys . we should not think of what roma is going to play on formation . As u all know Fabio Capello is good at playing MIND game ok , Dont listen to anyone rubbish . Totti is good at acting too , try to get penalty or free kick somewhere outside the box . to me he goes down too often . WE SHOULD BEAT THEM LIKE I SAY BEFoRE A 4 - 2 win to us LAZIO Rul3zz.

[MarieL]

How I just knew Totti would end up playing! :rolleyes: The Cassano thing annoys me. Why do they even hand out bans when they remove them everytime roma asks them to do so?
But I'm sure we'll beat them with or without the blondes. And luck won't have anything to do with it!

[sslazioMelopez]

I agree with MarieL , with or without blondes WE will defeat roma . * FORM IS TEMPORARY , CLASS IS FOREVER ! L@zI0 Rul3zz

[ahmed]

No.....:rolleyes: you see their luck....
we will beat them anyway... forza lazio non mollare mai

[valdanito_10]

i hate roma, they always get what they want, i bet if lopez or corradi would have been in the position cassano is they would have notbeen able to play the derby:mad:



and totti is just likes to make a big fuss and se ppl worried about his appearance in the derby! i hope that basatard plays

[MarieL]

Forza Lazio and all the best tonight! It's about time to beat those neighbours.

[Darran]

All you guys join this chatroom
http://sitechat.siteprotect.com/lazioweb.net/Lazioweb.html

[romansky]

The match is about to kick-off, looks as if Chiesa will start in place of Claudio. Be back later....

[romansky]

GGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
STANKOVIC!!

[ahmed]

we are the best..... we are dominating

[romansky]

I can't believe it! The defence looked so solid the entire match, we were dominating. This really hurts...

[Petko]

God damn it :mad2: ;)

We deserved a victory, but a last minute goal denied us one, very unfortunate...:rolleyes:

[Darran]

We are dominating the entire game but how could we concede a goal in the very last minute? Its so undeserved, we may not get a CL spot if we continue drawing games. I have confidence that we can get a CL spot but we need to start winning games. We must calm our nerves down and concentrate more. We also were screwed by the referee, Corradi's goal wasn't an offside goal, Couto wasn't even interfering with game play, so how can he be offside? All I can say is that Rioma Merda was very lucky today

[valdanito_10]

and look who scored the goal:rolleyes: the guy that was not allowed to play!


serie a is losing its respect!

[laziorules]

Great!

Just what we didn't want another draw. :(

[MarieL]

Damn Cassano, he shouldn't have been there!! I just knew roma will score in the last minute but I hoped we score again before that. You should have seen me during the last ten mins, I was so nervous!
And I didn't see us dominating the second half, just defending.
We have 12 draws now, nobody even comes close to that, Brescia has 10 I think...
One more chance this season...:(

[valdanito_10]

that referee took corradis goal away, that would have sealed the match!

icve always disliked messina

[ahmed]

if you see the goal... its not an offside coz first it was nt a pass but he kicked it 2ndly couto was in an offside position where as corradi who scored was not in an offside position you see that means it s regular... mancio said that tooo


ARBITRI di MerDA

[ahmed]

In casa Lazio permane il tabù Olimpico ma paradossalmente si prolunga l'imbattibilità fuori casa.
Questo dopopartita però è contraddistinto dalle giustificate lamentele di Mancini, irritato dalla decisione di Messina di annullare il goal di Corradi.
"Ci siamo stancati di queste decisioni errate che ci vedono protagonisti in negativo.
Il goal di Corradi era regolare, Couto in fuorigioco non ostacolava la visuale di Pelizzoli ed in più si era disinteressato dell'azione.
Penso che il guardalinee abbia bisogno di un periodo di riposo.
Inoltre l'espulsione finale dei due giocatori andava valutata con più calma, mi stupisce che un arbitro navigato come Messina non l'abbia fatto".
Torniamo ai dati tecnici della partita: la Lazio ha rischiato poco ma è sembrata poco propensa a chiudere la partita.
"La vittoria era meritata, abbiamo eviato le leggerezze e gli errori del passato.
La Roma ha fatto pochissimo per segnare, è stata brava a sfruttare quell'occasione con Cassano.
E' un momento sfortunato che accettiamo, anche se nelle occasioni per ripartire in contropiede non siamo stati lucidi.
Ora dobbiamo recuperare le forze per affrontare questo periodo fitto d'impegni".

[ahmed]

there was a coregraphie laziale yesterday no:confused: that what i understand while listening to the radio

[Darran]

It was definitely a goal, Couto wasn't even interfering with play so I don't understand how can it be an offside. FIGC should really look into this matter if it doesn't want its fans to disappear. Especially the fans who have been treated unfairly, the referees screwing their teams up

[valdanito_10]

this referee shit is happening too often! do u remember that openalty vs perugia? now this! italian football is a mess, we shouldnt have seen cassano on that pitch! that cocky player,. i really do hate him

[Darran]

That's what happening. The bigger clubs are afraid that Lazio can achieve so much more, so that is why they are bribing the referees to push lazio out.

[JD]

how come cassano (great header) can wear ear-rings on the pitch? its against the rules

[MarieL]

Originally posted by JD
how come cassano (great header) can wear ear-rings on the pitch? its against the rules
Are you sure it's the same in Italy coz what I've noticed there are some pretty strict rules in EPL. Those diamond earrings sure look girly btw. :rolleyes:
I just saw that second goal of ours on replay and it really was a goal! I mean Couto was running away from the goal. If I remember correctly roma scored a pretty similar goal in the 1st derby or some other match I'm not sure. But it was pretty similar and the referee had no problems with it. So annoying!
One thing suddenly came to my mind, the incident when Couto hit Totti in the face with his knee. That was hilarious! I'm not being mean or anything but it was Totti's own fault! When your always crying on the ground somebody's bound to dip over because of you :D

[Darran]

I think its a huge problem in Italy nowadays that the referees are favouring other clubs. I mean we should really sign a petition and give it to the FIGC in the form of an email and see what happens.

[MarieL]

Let me tell you what'll happen: Niente!

[romansky]

I hate to say that a fans' petition to the Federcalcio will never produce any results, most times it seems they don't care about fairness at all. For how many years have the medium-sized & small clubs complained about the Juve-Milan-Inter conspiracy, what ever changes?

Let's not be like those whingeing romanisti & their head complainer Sensi, it's frustrating but I think Lazio has only 2 penalties called against us in 24 giornati so far, that's not too bad.

[Darran]

I don't like it, many a times I feel that the referee is aiming at us, even when we play against Perugia a small club, we are still being targeted by the referees. And against Rioma, we were screwed by the referees on 2 occasions, in the Coppa Italia and in the Serie A recently.

[Darran]

Lazio director Luca Baraldi is becoming worried over the many mistakes, against Lazio, that the referees have made in the last games.

Penalties have not been awarded to Lazio although obvious fouls, penaltied have wrongly been awarded against Lazio and now in the derby a perfectly regular goal by Corradi was disallowed.

Baraldi: "We have chosen the way of not complaining against the decisions made by the referees but I am becoming a bit concerned by the fact that the less we complain, the more we get wrongly decisions against us. I hope that we are not penalized by the fact that we prefer to stay quiet, although obvious mistakes."

Mancini has since a couple of games left the way of silence after mistakes and started to accuse the referees for their mistakes.

[Darran]

Ratings from Gazzetta dello Sport after the derby.

Peruzzi 6
Stam 6
Couto 6
Mihajlovic 6.5
- Negro
Favalli 6.5
Fiore 6
- Simeone
Giannichedda 6.5
Stankovic 6.5
Cesar 6
Corradi 6
Chiesa 6.5
- Lopez 5.5

[Darran]

ROBERTO MANCINI has slammed the poor decision that cost Lazio what could have proved a vital goal in the Roman derby on Saturday.

Already leading through a spectacular Dejan Stankovic goal, Bernardo Corradi found the back of the Roma net only to find the goal adjudged offside because of team-mate Fernando Couto's position.

Mancini believes that Couto was clearly not interfering with play - and the decision and the resultant 1-1 draw was indicative of the way things have been going for his side of late.

"We deserved to win," said Mancini. "I don't think Roma did enough to deserve a draw.

"I cannot criticise my players - they did everything I asked of them.

"Perhaps we could have used the space better in the second half and made more of our pace on the counter-attacks.

"But saying that we scored two times and one goal has been cruelly taken away from us.

"We feel sorry for the supporters and for the management.

"Usually I am loathe to criticise referees but in the last few games we have been victim of disputable penalties and now we find a perfectly good goal ruled out.

"Corradi was not offside whilst Couto was clearly not influencing play.

"The linesman flagged for offside and he was wrong.

"A linesman simply cannot make these mistakes and I think he should be suspended for a time.

"Either that or he changes jobs."

[Darran]

The usually super-slick Roberto Mancini uncharacteristically vented his frustration in full view of the press after Antonio Cassano's last-gasp goal salvaged Roma a 1-1 draw from a typically tension-filled derby.

"I definitely think we deserved to win," hissed the Lazio coach, "and Roma did very little other than to score that late goal."

The former Sampdoria star was particularly angry about a Bernardo Corradi goal being disallowed at a point when Lazio were leading 1-0.

"We had a perfectly good goal called back and I personally cannot understand why Couto was considered to be interfering with play.

"Couto was out of the goalkeepers' line of vision as he was almost behind him, so how can this be interfering with play?"

The Portuguese defender was involved in another of the game's talking points when an over-enthusiastic – some say cynical – challenge saw him catch Totti in the face with his knee.

"Capello complained that it was on purpose, but I frankly doubt that it was," said Mancini in Couto's defense.

The Biancoceleste boss went on to admit that the rigors of playing a decisive Uefa Cup game in Poland in midweek took its toll on his team.

"We certainly fell off a bit after the break, but then we did waste several early chances to seal up the result, including the disallowed goal.

"Undoubtedly there was some tiredness from Thursday's game," he continued, "but Roma caused us no real problems before the final minute. We should have sealed it."

[romansky]

Don't get me wrong, I believe we have every right to be questioning these bad decisions from il arbitro, but as Baraldi said above Lazio has been taking the high-road, unlike the professional whingers Capello & Sensi. But I guess enough is enough.

[valdanito_10]

listen the problem is being on the recieving end! weve only had two penalties againt, one of which was really really doubt ful, but romansky lets talk about our front line, how many penalties that have favoured us have refrees missed, its hard to be on the recieving end of a the reffereeing mistakes, specially when u are in terribkle need of 3 points.

its a rescent thing that has happend to lazio and thats what worries me man, it might continue it might not but someone is stopping us from advancing!

well a mistake is amistake but too many mistakes is just enough!

[Darran]

Let's just hope that this referee thing will improve and it will result in a fairer judgement.

[JD]

have u guys considered the slim possibility that one day Lazio may fail to win a game and it will be their own fault? the fault of poor play or bad management decisions.
why is it ALWAYS the refs ALWAYS a conspiracy against them
Lazio have never lost(or drawn) a game that was their own responsibility according to you lot?!
excuses excuses

[Darran]

I know when we are playing badly and pay for it? But the fact is that we are playing well but the referees changed the whole outcome completely. Come on think about it, in the recent derby, we scored 2 goals and 1 goal was totally onside but what did Messina do? He ruled it out, no one was offside at all.

[valdanito_10]

a good expamlpe was that fiore goal taken off for a non existing offside vs empoli, too manymistakes and by coincidence allfrom our last few matches

[Darran]

We don't blame the referee if we really deserved to lose but if we lost because of poor refereeing decisions, then that's the time to be angry and blame the referee. Just like Juan said, why was Fiore's goal disallowed. Corradi did not foul anyone when he rose for the header nor was he offside and the ball did not cross the line and was kept in play.

[valdanito_10]

and the game was still 1-1 when that goal was disallowed:rolleyes:

[Darran]

Precisely not to forget the many throw in and offside decisions the referee made wrongly. If i am not wrong, there were more than 7 throw in decisions wrongly decided.

[valdanito_10]

itcan be really frustarting

[Darran]

We had the ability to win both derbies but a combination of bad luck and refereeing decisions prevented us those crucial 6 points instead of 2. If we were treated more fairly by the officials and by the FIGC, Lazio would be performing so much better and in recent years, they could have won the Scudetto more than once.

[MarieL]

Well, the result of the 1st derby was our fault, we had the chance when we got the penalty. Do those missed penalties suddenly feel important or what?
But as foor blaming the refs, I don't usually do that. Against Reggina for example I think the ref was trying to help us, but we just simply sucked.