Tactical and Staff Changes

[Hizbollah]

It has been really obvious the last couple of years that Inter needs some changes, players that are not useful (anymore) for the club and should be sorted out and some new signings. Fact is that Moratti spent big amount of money the last 5+ years and was not successful in purchasing players in many cases.


Vivas, Gamarra, Conseicao, Di Biagio, Gully are the names that pop up in my mind first that Inter should get rid of.
Since we are overstaffed of defensive midfielders, I suggest selling one or two of them and finally (!) buying a "real" playermaker would be the best solution to support the strikers and boost the creative midfield.
Aimar, Ronaldinho, Ballack (although he's not a real playmaker) or Totti would be ideal backings imo.

Aside from that, a good central defender that plays together with Cannavaro would not be amiss as well.
I think Samuel, Marquez, Chivu(?) or Metzelder would be good choices.

Also, a left/right winger(s) are needed desperately since Inter's play on the wings are nonexistent the past few years.
For the right wing, Joaquin appears to be a good backing but there are many other talented wingers.

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by Hizbollah

Vivas, Gamarra, Conseicao, Di Biagio, Gully are the names that pop up in my mind first that Inter should get rid of.
Since we are overstaffed of defensive midfielders, I suggest selling one or two of them and finally (!) buying a "real" playermaker would be the best solution to support the strikers and boost the creative midfield.
Aimar, Ronaldinho, Ballack (although he's not a real playmaker) or Totti would be ideal backings imo.

DiBiagio has really been a giant disappointment this season. I've defended his position, but beginning to change my mind.
Vivas, Conceicao and Guly have been topping our "out with them" charts since last summer. We can't expect big money from them however. What team would want Sergio now?
IMO Aimar would be the ideal playmaker, better than Ronaldinho. Totti would cost us terribly, and he loves Roma. As you said, Ballack isn't a playmaker, but he is an attacking force, who can keep possession (unlike our current DM's) and good defensively. He might partner Emre very well.

Aside from that, a good central defender that plays together with Cannavaro would not be amiss as well.
I think Samuel, Marquez, Chivu(?) or Metzelder would be good choices.

Also, a left/right winger(s) are needed desperately since Inter's play on the wings are nonexistent the past few years.
For the right wing, Joaquin appears to be a good backing but there are many other talented wingers.

Any one of those defenders would be great. Samuel is the one with serie a experience. Chivu would propably be the best, but it looks like he's going to Spain.

Right now it feels like whoever Inter buys will be a disappointment: Coco was expected to finally sort out our left back problems, but he's been inconsistent to say the least. Cannavaro started well, but has palyed some terrible games this year. Morfeo and Dalmat haven't done much.
I realize that even the best can't play well all the time, but it's getting very typical for our key players to fail in the most important matches.
Also, if we don't win anything this year, Moratti should look for a new coach. Cuper has made us stronger, in view of results, but we must find new ideas, as our midfield is playing very predictable. I like the man, but I'm getting bored with his tactics. We've seen how easy it is for teams like Juventus or Barcelona to deal with those crosses (which aren't even near accurate most of the time).

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

if we are going to get a playmaker , then for god sakes don't get us a softy . Aimar and Ronaldinho are true softies in footballing terms . Ballack or Veron are excellent and have the chance to be a success for us .

[Zek]

get basturk couple him with emre and you'll get a good and balanced and creative mid. as Cristiano not to throw the ball forward, but at least to think beforehand.

[Musiq]

Originally posted by Hizbollah
It has been really obvious the last couple of years that Inter needs some changes, players that are not useful (anymore) for the club and should be sorted out and some new signings. Fact is that Moratti spent big amount of money the last 5+ years and was not successful in purchasing players in many cases.


Vivas, Gamarra, Conseicao, Di Biagio, Gully are the names that pop up in my mind first that Inter should get rid of.
Since we are overstaffed of defensive midfielders, I suggest selling one or two of them and finally (!) buying a "real" playermaker would be the best solution to support the strikers and boost the creative midfield.
Aimar, Ronaldinho, Ballack (although he's not a real playmaker) or Totti would be ideal backings imo.

Aside from that, a good central defender that plays together with Cannavaro would not be amiss as well.
I think Samuel, Marquez, Chivu(?) or Metzelder would be good choices.

Also, a left/right winger(s) are needed desperately since Inter's play on the wings are nonexistent the past few years.
For the right wing, Joaquin appears to be a good backing but there are many other talented wingers.

Firstly, as Gigi's no.1 fan and staunch supporter, I feel it my duty to reply to these claims:


Originally posted by ilcapitano
DiBiagio has really been a giant disappointment this season. I've defended his position, but beginning to change my mind.


Come on, he's 33 and still going great guns. How many times does a 33 yr old score a brace with a 101 F fever? He's also scored in other key games, especially when Vieri wasn't around to finish the job. He's a bagful of experience, and my belief is that even if he doesn't play, Moratti should offer him a technical adviser role for coaching the youngsters. C Zanetti still has a lot to learn from our Gladiator, as has Nicola Beati.

Besides, I'm willing to maintain that the reason Inter screwed up yesterday was because Gigi didn't play.

Hizbollah, Joaquin is a Right Winger, not left. Besides, he plays more as a striker than a proper winger.

And why would we want to get rid of Gamarra? He's been quite good in the few starts he's been given. Again, there's loads of experience behind that man. And any succesful team has the right combo of oldies and youngsters.

Guly also has quite a bit of skill. He was playing well at the start of the season till he broke his leg. I wouldn't get rid of him so soon. If we had a great offer, then OK. But I personally feel we should keep him for one more season.

Marquez would not be a good deal at all. Firstly, the bidding will be quite high, because Lazio, Roma, Juventus, Milan, Man U, and some other top clubs are after this guy. Secondly, we already have enough classy centre-backs in Cannavaro, Cordoba, and Matrix, besides excellent cover in the form of Adani, Gamarra, and possibly Sorondo.

Hey Fanatic, what's wrong with you? Last time I heard, you were a die-hard Aimar fan. You, on more than one occasion, wanted Aimar here in black and blue. I personally think Aimar would be someone good, with the huge Argentine contingent to put him at his ease. He also seems like a player capable of playing in Serie A.

But he would cost more than Ronaldinho, as Valencia rate him higher than what PSG rate Ronaldinho.

Veron is far far far too selfish. He wouldn't be good for Inter at all. Besides, he finally seems to be settling into Man U. So it'll be difficult trying to get him.

[Hizbollah]

Originally posted by Musiq
Hizbollah, Joaquin is a Right Winger, not left. Besides, he plays more as a striker than a proper winger.
I never say Joaquin is a left winger, you misquoted me.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hizbollah
For the right wing, Joaquin appears to be a good backing but there are many other talented wingers.

[BLAUGRANA]

Well here's a change i've been waiting for. Sell Recoba. This from Channel4.com:

Opinion: The best and the rest… Monday 3 March, 2003

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Italian based reporter Dominque Antognoni highlights which individuals are on a high and a low after the latest Serie A games.

The best…

Pavel Nedved (Juventus)
He looked fitter and fresher in the last minute than a number of Inter players looked in the opening 60 seconds during the Derby d’Italia. Nedved was outstanding in the Juventus victory and left little doubt that he is the best player in Serie A at this moment in time. But the modest Czech doesn’t want to be a star – he just wants to win.

Fausto Rossini (Atalanta)
Rossini showed in the 3-3 draw with Milan what he is capable of if he can stay clear of injuries. He is an Atalanta player that can leave his mark on the game because he has the ability and the class of a natural goalscorer. Let’s hope that he continues to shine.

Vedin Music (Como)
Who is he and where does he come from? Well, for the record he is a Bosnian that is currently excelling at struggling Como. He’s full of energy, great technically and makes very few errors. Something which Piacenza found out to their cost yesterday.

The rest…

Giovanni Tedesco (Perugia)
Sometimes players moan that they are not respected by match officials. We’re hoping that Giovanni Tedesco doesn’t issue a similar plea. The penalty that he won for his team was something out of a horror movie, the decision to award it even more so.

Alvaro Recoba (Inter)
When the going gets tough the tough get going – and Alvaro Recoba disappears. His vanishing act in the game against Juventus didn’t aid his side’s cause. The Nerazzurri created very little and Recoba must take some of that responsibility. It’s been six years that people have been telling us that he is a genius – some of us still need to be convinced.

Paolo Maldini (Milan)
We would urge all who saw Milan’s game against Atalanta to highlight the difficulties that Paolo Maldini found himself in. He is a legend of the game but the Rossoneri captain did gift two goals to the Nerazzurri. It is official – Maldini does make mistakes.

[nismo]

Originally posted by Musiq

Guly also has quite a bit of skill. He was playing well at the start of the season till he broke his leg. I wouldn't get rid of him so soon. If we had a great offer, then OK. But I personally feel we should keep him for one more season.

To this day I don't know why we acquired Guly.
A few good games and that's about it.

Sorry but that's all i can think of, about describing this waste.

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by Musiq

Come on, he's 33 and still going great guns. How many times does a 33 yr old score a brace with a 101 F fever? He's also scored in other key games, especially when Vieri wasn't around to finish the job. He's a bagful of experience, and my belief is that even if he doesn't play, Moratti should offer him a technical adviser role for coaching the youngsters. C Zanetti still has a lot to learn from our Gladiator, as has Nicola Beati.

Besides, I'm willing to maintain that the reason Inter screwed up yesterday was because Gigi didn't play.


He did score a brace twice this season...but that's about it. He hasn't done his actual job of breaking the opponents play that well. And his passing skills have almost completely vanished, there was a time when he was very creative too.
So you think DiBiagio-Emre is the solution to our problems? (you said that on some other thread) Hope you're right. I doubt it, but I guess we'll see that in the coming matches.

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by Musiq

And why would we want to get rid of Gamarra? He's been quite good in the few starts he's been given. Again, there's loads of experience behind that man. And any succesful team has the right combo of oldies and youngsters.


Agree on Gamarra. It looks like he and Cannavaro aren't the best partnership for defence though.

[Hizbollah]

I believe Cannavaro with Matterazi in the defense and Emre with Almeyda in the central midfield fit best.

[Zek]

Almeyda is slow, i go for Cristiano and Emre and maybe DiBi too to build a dam in the midfield :D

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

Originally posted by Musiq


Hey Fanatic, what's wrong with you? Last time I heard, you were a die-hard Aimar fan. You, on more than one occasion, wanted Aimar here in black and blue. I personally think Aimar would be someone good, with the huge Argentine contingent to put him at his ease. He also seems like a player capable of playing in Serie A.

But he would cost more than Ronaldinho, as Valencia rate him higher than what PSG rate Ronaldinho.

Veron is far far far too selfish. He wouldn't be good for Inter at all. Besides, he finally seems to be settling into Man U. So it'll be difficult trying to get him.

Since my post was after the Juve game, I think what I said would be somewhat reasonable. It just frustrated me seeing Emre's petit figure destroyed by Davids. If Aimar would be like this, then no thank you very much. That's why I mentioned the likes of Veron and Ballack, one's that are capable technically and physically as well.

Still love Aimar though, nothing wrong with him. I just think he would find it hard settling into Serie A .

[Hizbollah]

I disagree InTeR_FaNaTiC.
Aimar would do well in Italy. Veron needed over a year to find his form in England and is still inconstant while Aimar is one of the best midfielders in Spain, which is a much harder league than the English Premiere League.

[nismo]

Originally posted by Hizbollah
I disagree InTeR_FaNaTiC.
Aimar would do well in Italy. Veron needed over a year to find his form in England and is still inconstant while Aimar is one of the best midfielders in Spain, which is a much harder league than the English Premiere League.
I agree with Fanatic points. Veron was one of the best SerieA midfielders, and I can't see him having a difficult time replicating past form. And about Aimar being the best La Liga midfielder, remember Mendieta? Went from hero of Spain to zero in Italy, so I don't know why you suggest Aimar would do well in Italy, even though I know generalising La Liga players is ignorant, but I still wouldn't class Aimar as a sure-success in Italy, until I actually see him play here.

[ilcapitano]

Exactly. Veron was one of the best midfielders in serie a, and his problems in England are simply due to different pace and style of playing.
Actually, Emre and Veron sounds like a well balanced midfield duo to me. They can both be used as playmakers, and even if they aren't DM's they do contribute to defending more than Recoba or Morfeo.

[ilcapitano]

Wouldn't mind Aimar either though...:D

[Hizbollah]

Exactly. Veron was one of the best midfielders in serie a, and his problems in England are simply due to different pace and style of playing.
And what was his problem at the World Cup for showing such a poor performance?

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by Hizbollah
And what was his problem at the World Cup for showing such a poor performance?

Who knows? Maybe the tactics under "he-who-walks-alot" (What's the name of the argie coach again?) were agains very different from Fergusons. Maybe he's a player who doesn't adapt so fast. He wasn't the only argentine that flopped in the WC though.
I'm not defending his performance anyway. He was awful. Still, I trust he would do well in serie a again.

[Zek]

still for Bashturk :D

I don't want stars coming playing shit for big money in Inter get an over average player and that's it.

look: Blanc-dissappointment, Canna-inconsistent, makes clown of himself, Bati- too old now, Sergio-ending his career in Inter..., Guly - having his dreams lifted after being sacked from Milan, Recoba - big money, plays as his mood wants too... should have destroyed Puyol ... :silly: ...

DiBi some people like him some not

great players for great money: Javier-great, Toldo-STAR (he's superb though everyone makes mistakes) all times best Yashin once conceded a goal from the other keeper...

just want to say that we need players who will establish themselves as superstars in Inter, not just superstars

[nismo]

Originally posted by ilcapitano
Who knows? Maybe the tactics under "he-who-walks-alot" (What's the name of the argie coach again?) were agains very different from Fergusons. Maybe he's a player who doesn't adapt so fast. He wasn't the only argentine that flopped in the WC though.
I'm not defending his performance anyway. He was awful. Still, I trust he would do well in serie a again.
A number of stars flopped, don't just single out Veron.

I agree that he would show previous form in SerieA which made ManU fork out 28 mill for him, if he ever came back to Italy.

[Musiq]

Originally posted by ilcapitano
He did score a brace twice this season...but that's about it. He hasn't done his actual job of breaking the opponents play that well. And his passing skills have almost completely vanished, there was a time when he was very creative too.
So you think DiBiagio-Emre is the solution to our problems? (you said that on some other thread) Hope you're right. I doubt it, but I guess we'll see that in the coming matches.

I don't "think" that that's the solution, I know it!! That's what I've seen from games before the winter break, with some exceptions, like vs. Lyon (away), when Gigi had to be substituted.

In all other games, when Gigi and Emre played together, the combo of one ball-winner, and one ball-retainer, worked perfectly.

Yes, earlier, like in the 1998 WC and the season when he first joined Inter, he was the deep-playmaker for Italy. Even this 2002 WC, that's what he was doing in the one game he played. If you remember, that 2nd goal of Vieri vs. Ecuador, he provided that superb long arial ball which Bobo finished. Again, when he went out, there was no one to join the defence to the attack, and subsequently, Italy couldn't stay in there. Totti tried to do both, but ended up isolating Vieri upfield. C Zanetti couldn't get the job done either, and neither could that thug, Gatusso.

But with Cuper's tactics, Gigi's role has somewhat changed. He's just earning the ball, and letting the other midfielder do the work. But for the Azzuri, he had a more vast role.

[Musiq]

Originally posted by ilcapitano
Exactly. Veron was one of the best midfielders in serie a, and his problems in England are simply due to different pace and style of playing.
Actually, Emre and Veron sounds like a well balanced midfield duo to me. They can both be used as playmakers, and even if they aren't DM's they do contribute to defending more than Recoba or Morfeo.

Actually, what Cuper can do with his 4 man midfield, is place one defensive midfielder like Gigi, and C Zanetti or Beati in the future, and put the other three for the role that you suggest.

------------------------Gigi---------------------
Emre------------------------------------Veron
---------------------Recoba-------------------

If not REcoba, then whichever attacking midfielder you guys suggested, Aimar or anyone.

[nismo]

Originally posted by Musiq

But with Cuper's tactics, Gigi's role has somewhat changed. He's just earning the ball, and letting the other midfielder do the work. But for the Azzuri, he had a more vast role.
That was when Albertini was beside him to show his true colours. :D

[Musiq]

Originally posted by nismo
That was when Albertini was beside him to show his true colours. :D

I don't think so. Where was Albertini this WC? Sitting on a couch with his grand-children watching Gigi do the role to perfection....:D

[nismo]

Originally posted by Musiq
I don't think so. Where was Albertini this WC? Sitting on a couch with his grand-children watching Gigi do the role to perfection....:D
You know what I meant;)
Gigi played better next to Albertini when both were in their prime for the Azzuri.
Now it's Tommasi, Gattuso, Ambrosini, and maybe Pirlo who will take the mantle in Central Midfield. But I feel Gigi still has something to offer to the Azzuri, however long that will be :D

[Zek]

Gigi was great in 98!
then he wasted his talant he's doing too many tackles!

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by Musiq
Actually, what Cuper can do with his 4 man midfield, is place one defensive midfielder like Gigi, and C Zanetti or Beati in the future, and put the other three for the role that you suggest.

------------------------Gigi---------------------
Emre------------------------------------Veron
---------------------Recoba-------------------

If not REcoba, then whichever attacking midfielder you guys suggested, Aimar or anyone.

I think both Emre and Veron are more at home as CM's. What we need is a natural winger for the left (Hasan Sas?). We allraedy have Okan on the right.

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by Musiq
Yes, earlier, like in the 1998 WC and the season when he first joined Inter, he was the deep-playmaker for Italy. Even this 2002 WC, that's what he was doing in the one game he played. If you remember, that 2nd goal of Vieri vs. Ecuador, he provided that superb long arial ball which Bobo finished. Again, when he went out, there was no one to join the defence to the attack, and subsequently, Italy couldn't stay in there. Totti tried to do both, but ended up isolating Vieri upfield. C Zanetti couldn't get the job done either, and neither could that thug, Gatusso.


Trapattoni's choice of midfielders (and tactics!) for the WC was really stupid. Di Livio? GATTUSO for christ sake? What's the point to bring in a moron who passes the ball straight back to the opponent seconds after he's muscled the ball away. Ambrosini at least can give some nice opening passes. The same goes to Gladiator of course: you're right about that Ecuador game, he gave a really nice pass there.
I still maintain that this is his worst season for Inter. Cristiano can do a better job in breaking the play.

[Musiq]

Originally posted by ilcapitano
I think both Emre and Veron are more at home as CM's. What we need is a natural winger for the left (Hasan Sas?). We allraedy have Okan on the right.

No no, you misunderstood my representation, which was, I admit, rather poor. What I meant was the diamond arrangement of midfielders - one defensive midfielder, also known as the "attack back", two central midfielders, one "fantasista". In a complete lineup, it would be something like:

RB--------------------CB---------------CB--------------------LB

---------------------------------DM------------------------------
---------------------CM--------------------CM------------------
---------------------------------AM------------------------------

---------------------ST---------------------ST--------------------

[JD]

so all width has to come from the full-backs?
obviously Javier Zanetti (best right back in the world?) can do the job but who will you play on the left?
If u wan2 play that formation u need 2buy back Roberto Carlos!

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by Musiq
No no, you misunderstood my representation, which was, I admit, rather poor. What I meant was the diamond arrangement of midfielders - one defensive midfielder, also known as the "attack back", two central midfielders, one "fantasista". In a complete lineup, it would be something like:

RB--------------------CB---------------CB--------------------LB

---------------------------------DM------------------------------
---------------------CM--------------------CM------------------
---------------------------------AM------------------------------

---------------------ST---------------------ST--------------------

Oh I see ;)
I agree with JD here, we would need a world class left back for that formation. I'm not that confident about Coco (or Pasquale)
Other than that, it might work.

[Musiq]

Well, Coco has to do the job he was bought for.

Moratti sacrificed a world-class midfielder, someone who's entered into the UEFA Dream team, for this feller.

Coco ought to pull his socks up now.

I remember, Inter.it had made a special section about Coco when he first arrived, saying that he would do the same kind of job that Javier Zanetti does on the right. Till now, he's only given a couple of performances that can match the captain's average game.....

[barça]

I never liked him in Barcelona, and I was surprised when Inter traded for him. More surprised when he makes the NT.

[Hizbollah]

I agree with barca. The swap with Seedorf was a stupid mistake.

[Musiq]

I was a little upset at first, because I was (and still am) a die-hard Seedorf fan. But when I saw Coco's form at the WC, I thought maybe we had got the better half of the bargain. Seedorf too seemed a little out of shape.

[BLAUGRANA]

I said then, since then and I'll say it now. Shoulda bought Coco outright and held on to Seedorf. Coco should be used as a left wing rather than as a left back.

[nismo]

sigh...
I really thought the deal was good for Coco considering the aftermath of May5th, but I guess that idiot Gresko had a much more impact than initially thought. If the LB situation wasn't left to deteriorate as it did with Gresko, maybe the urgence to get any good LB wouldn't have been as drastic, and Seedorf wouldn't had to leave.
But no point pondering, it's a done deal, just learn from mistakes.
Midfield and Attack coulda looked like this.
Seedorf-C.Zanetti-Emre
----------Pilro-------------
Vieri-----------Crespo

;) Now we can only imagine what could've been