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soccer fanatic

03-01-2003, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
Can someone tell me, whay he is sopowsto be move again in yonger teams. In times where you definently need attackers, since litmanen, v.d.vart are injured?

Yes we need strikers, but we don`t need unproffesional arrogant bastards who have no respect for the club and team. He ruined his Ajax career and can only blame himself, we gave him enough chances, he did it himself.

Zlatan had the same problems, but he was able too turn it all around and now is very popular under Ajax fans and is respected by fans and other team fans, Mido wasn`t able too grow up and act mature, if he thinks he is better than Ajax that is fine, he can leave and try it somewhere else.

BLAUGRANA

03-02-2003, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
Yes we need strikers, but we don`t need unproffesional arrogant bastards who have no respect for the club and team. He ruined his Ajax career and can only blame himself, we gave him enough chances, he did it himself.

Zlatan had the same problems, but he was able too turn it all around and now is very popular under Ajax fans and is respected by fans and other team fans, Mido wasn`t able too grow up and act mature, if he thinks he is better than Ajax that is fine, he can leave and try it somewhere else.

Yeah, what he said. I like the arrogant bastards bit.

miro

03-02-2003, 10:24 PM

The problem started last year, when Koeman had problems with Mido, and Mido left to Egypt and came back to solve the problem and score 12 goals in 11 games. Then they said that they get along just fine, but now they came up with no real excuse to ban the player again, in a time when the need every stricker. I agree that Mido was wrong to miss this sponser agency meeting, but then again it is not a good reason to ban him, what did he do after Arsenal game to be banned for the rest of the season!! I think it is not a very smart move from Koeman (it is a thing between him and Mido) plus all the squad wants Mido back, so where is the problem??????????????????????????????? :confused: :confused:
And also he was the one that said I don't want to leave Ajax (last season) because I learned a lot from them and I am still learning, he only got mad when Koeman replaced on the bench for no particular reason, while he can play side by side with Zlatan!!!!

soccer fanatic

03-03-2003, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by miro
Then they said that they get along just fine, but now they came up with no real excuse to ban the player again, in a time when the need every stricker.

Are you kidding? He almost neglected all rules, he showed no commitment too the club and was almost always late for meetings and training, as well as negative interviews in the press.

The guy screwed up, Koeman said it himself in a meeting, that he could have accept a few breakings of rules, but there is a limit. Mido got more than enough chancxes and it is now clear too everyone that Midos career at Ajax is probably over.

Koeman did the most difficult thing, but also the right thing.

I agree that Mido was wrong to miss this sponser agency meeting, but then again it is not a good reason to ban him, what did he do after Arsenal game to be banned for the rest of the season!!

Most important violation was press releases in which he declared not too have changed and that he still doesn`t see he did anything wrong.

I think it is not a very smart move from Koeman (it is a thing between him and Mido) plus all the squad wants Mido back, so where is the problem??????????????????????????????? :confused: :confused:

I heard an interview with captain Chivu and at the last time he wanted him back only because they needed him in the squad, due lack of strikers. He didn`t think Mido was right and considered that also too be Mido`s last chance, he screwed it up, with only himself too blame. Being a pro footballer isn`t just about playing matches and train a lot, it os much more than that, a manager should be able too trust his employers, with Mido that was impossible. Any manager would sack him too, a football club is in his right too do the same, they gave him enough chances.

And also he was the one that said I don't want to leave Ajax (last season) because I learned a lot from them and I am still learning, he only got mad when Koeman replaced on the bench for no particular reason, while he can play side by side with Zlatan!!!!

He also said last year he wanted too leave Ajax often, he just is too inmature too play for Ajax, a certain responsibility is asked when you play for a topteam.

his quality isn`t in question, his disciplinary record is, and that sucks in his case. The players for as far as I can know agree with Koeman.

BLAUGRANA

03-04-2003, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by soccer fanatic

Are you kidding? He almost neglected all rules, he showed no commitment too the club and was almost always late for meetings and training, as well as negative interviews in the press.

The guy screwed up, Koeman said it himself in a meeting, that he could have accept a few breakings of rules, but there is a limit. Mido got more than enough chancxes and it is now clear too everyone that Midos career at Ajax is probably over.

Koeman did the most difficult thing, but also the right thing.

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Most important violation was press releases in which he declared not too have changed and that he still doesn`t see he did anything wrong.

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I heard an interview with captain Chivu and at the last time he wanted him back only because they needed him in the squad, due lack of strikers. He didn`t think Mido was right and considered that also too be Mido`s last chance, he screwed it up, with only himself too blame. Being a pro footballer isn`t just about playing matches and train a lot, it os much more than that, a manager should be able too trust his employers, with Mido that was impossible. Any manager would sack him too, a football club is in his right too do the same, they gave him enough chances.

He also said last year he wanted too leave Ajax often, he just is too inmature too play for Ajax, a certain responsibility is asked when you play for a topteam.

his quality isn`t in question, his disciplinary record is, and that sucks in his case. The players for as far as I can know agree with Koeman. [/B]

Well said my friend. Look Miro, it'd be great if Mido apologized and admitted his mistakes. However, he's not done that and in fact has just gone a step further and put his foot further into his mouth. If the other players had a problem with Koeman, we'd hear about it. The fact of the matter is that no one likes a prima donna player. The Real Madrid players haven't really taken to Ronaldo for example. Also, Nico Anelka has always had problems with both his fellow players and managers. Mido's young and obviously has a lot to learn yet.

miro

03-04-2003, 03:24 AM

I totaly agree with u, he has some attitude problem, and he is too confident in himself (he is a little conceted, yet he is young and he wants to be a super star). He needs some guidance and some patience, because I believe that the penalty was a little to harsh, and he is not a bad player either. But it seems that it will be the end of his career in Ajax, and his move to either Italy, Spain or England. So, we will see what happens and see if the problem was from him or the club (also when he used to play in Ghents in Belgium, he didn't have that many problems, and was named the best discovery of the year in Belgium)!!!!

soccer fanatic

03-04-2003, 09:53 AM

Also yesterday came out he threw a pair of scissors too Zlatan, Koeman reacted it was true and his way of saying it implied that wasn`t all that happened during Mido`s stay in the first team.

Mido and Zlatan BTW are already friends again.

miro

03-04-2003, 05:51 PM

First of all Mido is in Egypt since the ban, so I have no idea where u got this incident from, and it is true that Zlatan and Mido are close friends, so it doesn't make any sense that he throws a scissors at his buddy!!!!! :confused:

BLAUGRANA

03-05-2003, 05:31 AM

lili

03-05-2003, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by BLAUGRANA
Yeah, what he said. I like the arrogant bastards bit.

Me too.
I feel sorry for him, he's a great player. But still young, so we can only hope, he will learn his lection. Koeman doesn't look to me as a coach who would tease his players (which was a big problem in our NT between Katanec and some players), so he probably took the right decision.
However, I'm pretty sure, we will hear about Mido in the next years, hope not in only affair cases.;)

soccer fanatic

03-05-2003, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by miro
First of all Mido is in Egypt since the ban, so I have no idea where u got this incident from, and it is true that Zlatan and Mido are close friends, so it doesn't make any sense that he throws a scissors at his buddy!!!!! :confused:

I know he is, like Blaugrana said, it happened before that.
Yes they are friends but it did happen, also Zlatan said it. They are friends but it still did happen, Zlatan wants mido back, but it appears the entire coaching staff and most of the Ajax players think different, and I think it is safe too say that most Ajax fans have had it with Mido, and I am one of them.

You think about this situation from the Mido angle, with his interests at heart, I look at it with my heart with Ajax and their interests, and banning him and selling him when the transfer window opens is the only right thing.

Because no player is more important than the team, it only appears that Mido has no clue about that. I hope he is gone as soon as possible. He is young, but doesn`t plead him free of so many screw ups. If he had an office job he would have been fired already, so he has no reason too doubt the fairness of the decision.

lili

03-05-2003, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
I know he is, like Blaugrana said, it happened before that.
Yes they are friends but it did happen, also Zlatan said it. They are friends but it still did happen, Zlatan wants mido back, but it appears the entire coaching staff and most of the Ajax players think different, and I think it is safe too say that most Ajax fans have had it with Mido, and I am one of them.

You think about this situation from the Mido angle, with his interests at heart, I look at it with my heart with Ajax and their interests, and banning him and selling him when the transfer window opens is the only right thing.

Because no player is more important than the team, it only appears that Mido has no clue about that. I hope he is gone as soon as possible. He is young, but doesn`t plead him free of so many screw ups. If he had an office job he would have been fired already, so he has no reason too doubt the fairness of the decision.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

BLAUGRANA

03-05-2003, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by soccer fanatic

Because no player is more important than the team

Exactly, except for Puyol. Just kidding. He's a model professional who Mido could learn from.

BLAUGRANA

03-05-2003, 07:39 PM

Mido now has come out and said he could be playing at the Nou Camp next season. He also said that this will be his last season at Ajax. Man this kid really needs to get his head outta his arse.

lili

03-05-2003, 08:27 PM

You think, Barca is interested?

ItalianBoy

03-05-2003, 10:11 PM

If he had an office job he would have been fired already

Probably by a boss as jerk as Koeman.

BLAUGRANA

03-05-2003, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by ItalianBoy
Probably by a boss as jerk as Koeman.

Koeman a jerk? Where do you get that from. He has the respect of all the other players except Mido.

soccer fanatic

03-05-2003, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by ItalianBoy
Probably by a boss as jerk as Koeman.

Please explain.

miro

03-06-2003, 02:25 AM

Well as far as I heard from the news, Mido got offers from England, including (Manu., Arsenal, Everton), Italy (Lazio, and Juve.), and Spain (Barca)!!!

As far as it concerns me, the best way to deal with this problem, is to sell Mido (for the good of him and the club), as he said that he can't get along with Koeman since long, as he always criticized him in public and media even though Mido asked him to do it one on one, which puts too much pressure on him when he plays to prove that he deserves to be a starter!!!

Koeman is good, but his problem is that he is too serious, I can't remember seeing him smiling on the bench, he takes too serious as a matter of life or death, but then again u should lite up sometimes, and be kewl!!!;)

lili

03-06-2003, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by ItalianBoy
Probably by a boss as jerk as Koeman.

would be better not to put your respectable nose in every matter, before all in those ones, you have no clue about. Koeman is one of the best coaches, smartie. Just look, what he made from a youngster team.:smoking:

lili

03-06-2003, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by miro
Koeman is good, but his problem is that he is too serious, I can't remember seeing him smiling on the bench, he takes too serious as a matter of life or death, but then again u should lite up sometimes, and be kewl!!!;)

I don't think he's too serious. He looks very positive and confidental to me and except Mido there wasn't to hear about any problems in the ajax team. It's not easy to handle such a bunch of young, ambitious players imo and Koeman seems to be successfull at that point. He made the team play very disciplinated and it's clearly to see, there's a great team spirit inside them, which makes them able to beat or not to loose also from far better teams, f.ex. Valencia, Roma, Asrenal.
If a player doesn't fit into a team, it's more because he's selfish and not matured enough to put his personal interests behind the interests of the team.
I'm partly dissapointed about Mido, cause he's material, who can
enrapture, and I wish him to overgrow that troublemaker level.

soccer fanatic

03-06-2003, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by miro
Well as far as I heard from the news, Mido got offers from England, including (Manu., Arsenal, Everton), Italy (Lazio, and Juve.), and Spain (Barca)!!!

Well, Ajax haven`t said that yet, but if Mido says he got offers from all of those teams, who am I too doubt him? :rolleyes:
I mean a team like Arsenal with Henry, Bergkamp, Jeffers, Kanu and Wiltord ofcourse is jumping for a player like Mido. :)

Without a doubt though he will go too a topteam, I just hope he will do better there than he did here and gets an idea what being a football pro is all about.

As far as it concerns me, the best way to deal with this problem, is to sell Mido (for the good of him and the club), as he said that he can't get along with Koeman since long, as he always criticized him in public and media even though Mido asked him to do it one on one, which puts too much pressure on him when he plays to prove that he deserves to be a starter!!!

Would be best indeed if Mido moved for both player and club, but don`t think Koeman criticised Mido in public cause he doesn`t like him, the player he is hardest on in press is without doubt captain Chivu, I never hear him complain.

Besides, if a player is doing what Mido is doing I feel as an Ajax fan I have a right too know, as well as I have a right too know when and why Mido get banned too the 2nd team. Perfectly normal.

soccer fanatic

03-06-2003, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by lili
I don't think he's too serious. He looks very positive and confidental to me and except Mido there wasn't to hear about any problems in the ajax team. It's not easy to handle such a bunch of young, ambitious players imo and Koeman seems to be successfull at that point. He made the team play very disciplinated and it's clearly to see, there's a great team spirit inside them, which makes them able to beat or not to loose also from far better teams, f.ex. Valencia, Roma, Asrenal.
If a player doesn't fit into a team, it's more because he's selfish and not matured enough to put his personal interests behind the interests of the team.
I'm partly dissapointed about Mido, cause he's material, who can
enrapture, and I wish him to overgrow that troublemaker level.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Good post. :)
And fully agreed. :)

lili

03-06-2003, 09:39 AM

Thank you, honey.:heart: ;)

miro

03-07-2003, 02:07 AM

Without a doubt though he will go too a topteam, I just hope he will do better there than he did here and gets an idea what being a football pro is all about.

Mido will be loaned to Celta vigo (he will leave to Spain on Sunday) for the rest of the season, so he can still play and get practice that would enable him to be signed by another team during summer when the transfer windows open. As I stand neutral now, we will see in the next few days how Mido will act in Spain, and see if it was his mistake or it was just some kind of misunderstanding between him and Koeman.:rolleyes:

soccer fanatic

03-07-2003, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by miro
Mido will be loaned to Celta vigo (he will leave to Spain on Sunday) for the rest of the season, so he can still play and get practice that would enable him to be signed by another team during summer when the transfer windows open. As I stand neutral now, we will see in the next few days how Mido will act in Spain, and see if it was his mistake or it was just some kind of misunderstanding between him and Koeman.:rolleyes:

however he acts there won`t make a difference too what he did in amsterdam, it happened, it is proven and can`t be erased by a sudden changed Mido. As long as he plays in the first team he will be calm, but I can`t see him get a firdst team place with Celta de Vigo. But good for him he found a new club.

And even better for us. :)

ItalianBoy

03-07-2003, 06:42 PM

would be better not to put your respectable nose in every matter, before all in those ones, you have no clue about. Koeman is one of the best coaches, smartie. Just look, what he made from a youngster team.

Look lili, I know you are not the bright one here, but let me tell you that this is a message board, the whole point is to give your opinion about stuff.
Also, I do know what I am talking about, so pls, if possible, if it doesent hurt, think twice before posting.
:rolleyes:
I am not even going to comment on your noise posts in other boards. So PLS SHUT UP PLS SHUT UP.

IMO, both Mido and Koeman did wrong stuff.
Koeman can be a good coach, does not mean that he can not be an ass at times.
Cheers.

lili

03-07-2003, 07:10 PM

you better think about what you're posting, ITBoy. Cause if too many people put you on their ignore list, you will soon have monologues on the forums.

soccer fanatic

03-07-2003, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by ItalianBoy
Look lili, I know you are not the bright one here, but let me tell you that this is a message board, the whole point is to give your opinion about stuff.
Also, I do know what I am talking about, so pls, if possible, if it doesent hurt, think twice before posting.

I am not even going to comment on your noise posts in other boards. So PLS SHUT UP PLS SHUT UP.

The meaning of a forum is too discuss views on football and other subjects, if you are not interested in doing that I suggest you find yourself another hobby, like you everybody is entitled too their own views and perspectives, but on a public board you don`t tell or ask people too shut up.

If you expect respect from other posters on this board it is about time you treat others with respect as well. If you aren`t capable of doing that than you should consider discussing football with people who have the same thoughts on your way of discussing.

ItalianBoy

03-07-2003, 11:48 PM

Pls soccer fanatic, read what lili posted before. She told me to get out. Is this what you mean by beaing nice? I suggest you guys think before posting. And BTW, If you put me in your ignore list, it means you cant take my arguments. = got no stuff to say that really counts.
:rolleyes:

lili

03-08-2003, 09:51 AM

what I posted before was no insult to you personally. I just suggested you, not to fullfill all the threads wit provocating crap without any arguments. You just like to come to threads with cheap remarks in a damned arrogant style and expect, what in fact? We will applaude you?
You're the one, who should think about posting, as replys by almost all members on your posts aren't exactly friendly and nice.
If I put you in my ignore list, it's not because I'm out of arguments, it's because I'm not in mood for your level of communication.
Arguments, like you're not the brightest, exactly show us your age and manners. And arguments like SHUT UP PLS, show you're the one without arguments, my friend.

miro

03-08-2003, 10:14 AM

Guys, chill there is no need for personal arguments here:D

Damn, I didn't know that Mido could cause this trouble even in the forum. :D

Anyways, what happened to Van der Vaart, did he get another injury or what, how come he doesn't play as the main forward like last season?

soccer fanatic

03-08-2003, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by miro
Guys, chill there is no need for personal arguments here:D
Damn, I didn't know that Mido could cause this trouble even in the forum. :D

Not anymore, he is know with Celta right? :)

Anyways, what happened to Van der Vaart, did he get another injury or what, how come he doesn't play as the main forward like last season?

He played as a nuber ten but not as a striker, he might now since Mido has left Ajax. He is already back made his debut with the first team on wednesday is is declared totally fit, so he probably will play for around an hour tonight against Zwolle and the full match against Valencia in Amsterdam for the CL.

miro

03-08-2003, 10:12 PM

Ya Mido now should be in Spain, and they say that he might play their next game on March 16!!
Does anyone watch the Belgium league, because I wanna ask about this one player named El Yamani, he moved to Malines, and used to be one of the top scorers in the last youth world cup in Argentina, and was supposed to move to Juve. except for his injury from a car accident!!!

ItalianBoy

03-11-2003, 03:44 AM

Originally posted by lili
what I posted before was no insult to you personally. I just suggested you, not to fullfill all the threads wit provocating crap without any arguments. You just like to come to threads with cheap remarks in a damned arrogant style and expect, what in fact? We will applaude you?
You're the one, who should think about posting, as replys by almost all members on your posts aren't exactly friendly and nice.
If I put you in my ignore list, it's not because I'm out of arguments, it's because I'm not in mood for your level of communication.
Arguments, like you're not the brightest, exactly show us your age and manners. And arguments like SHUT UP PLS, show you're the one without arguments, my friend.

Sorry lili, but once again you fail to make sense. I just posted that Koeman at times was kind of a joke, to then get a reply to get out of here.
Get real guys.

soccer fanatic

03-11-2003, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by ItalianBoy
Sorry lili, but once again you fail to make sense. I just posted that Koeman at times was kind of a joke, to then get a reply to get out of here.
Get real guys.

Argumentate why you think Koeman is from time too time a joke, and please also explain if you mean as a player, coach or in private life.

BLAUGRANA

03-12-2003, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by miro
Guys, chill there is no need for personal arguments here:D

Damn, I didn't know that Mido could cause this trouble even in the forum. :D

Mido causes problems everywhere, even here in the WSB. He's right though guys, chill.

ItalianBoy

03-12-2003, 07:31 AM

I ear that Koeman got mad at Mido more than once. I know that once he was right. But not the second time.

lili

03-12-2003, 10:46 AM

what I believe is, Koeman is one of the best coaches in Europe and i'm pretty sure, he wouldn't allow his personal emotions about a player making influence on the professional part. He also doesn't look to me as a coach who would abuse his power, he's doing everything for the clubs interests, what we can all see in the ajax matches. ;)

ItalianBoy

03-17-2003, 08:13 PM

I also know that Ajax needs F right now so why in the hell are they giving Mido away?
He is a good coach to get Ajax where they are now from lets say 2 years ago?
Still, He has his faults.

soccer fanatic

03-18-2003, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by ItalianBoy
I also know that Ajax needs F right now so why in the hell are they giving Mido away?
He is a good coach to get Ajax where they are now from lets say 2 years ago?
Still, He has his faults.

Because football is a teamsport and there is with Ajax no place misplaced arrogance. I don`t know where mido got it from, but he has an attitude problem, he overrates himself and doesn`t seem too realise that he is a good player but far from being a star.

koeman has too treat everyone the same and if you fail too bring some discipline too the light you have no right too be in the 1st Ajax team. It doesn`t matter if the position is scarcely covered, if you can`t bring up the discipline too be a proffesional, you ned too accept the consequences.

He does great work with Ajax (although not alone ofcourse) and I have no complaints, he makes the right decisions and although now and again I disagree with them they all can be explained in good sense.

ItalianBoy

03-27-2003, 06:32 AM

"Take is easy" SF. I kinda feel you are talking now not with an objective mind but with the fan mind. I mean, no one ever said Mido is the best, and I doubt he said he was. Anyway, I saw his goal in Celta and it was a good goal. And he also had a very nice bycicle kick that almost went in.
:)

soccer fanatic

03-27-2003, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by ItalianBoy
"Take is easy" SF. I kinda feel you are talking now not with an objective mind but with the fan mind. I mean, no one ever said Mido is the best, and I doubt he said he was. Anyway, I saw his goal in Celta and it was a good goal. And he also had a very nice bycicle kick that almost went in.
:)

I`m very calm, but saw Mido play a lot, he is a good striker but just nothing speciall. yes I`m a fan but I`m objective in these things, when Gronkjaer was sold in a doubtfull matter I was at his side, now I think Mido just wrecked his own chances and didn`t let himself have the opportunity too become a good striker in the future, because at Ajax you have a good chance too get everything out of your potential.

He didn`t literally say it but was behaving too much as a star. I`m not talking about driving a ferrari, but about Mido coming late for sponsor meetings and trainings, undermining Koeman and other disciplinairy fouls.

miro

03-29-2003, 09:01 PM

Mido is a promising player, just like Zlatan, Adriano and many others (they are too young to be called stars yet) they are still in their early 20's (and as far as I know most of those that are called stars are over 25 like Beckham, Figo, Ronaldo, Raul, Totti etc.).
The problem is that Koeman never got along with Mido, how can u put a good striker like him on the bench or on reserve if u r in need for one (like I said before, the guy scored 12 goals in 11 games last season, and was named the third best foreign player in Holland) And when they asked him about a move he said no, I wanna stay in Ajax for atleast an extra year to learn more. Mido was wrong but then again he needs someone to guide him not to punish him till the end of the season. And as u heard he scored a goal in his first appearance with Celta, and had an amazing chance from a bicycle kick that the keeper barely touched it to keep it out, a player like this need to play to increase and boost his talent or he will rust. ;)
For now I wish Ajax the best, hopefully they will find a new forward soon that Koeman likes!!!

ItalianBoy

03-31-2003, 03:33 AM

I am with Miro all the way.

soccer fanatic

03-31-2003, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by miro
Mido is a promising player, just like Zlatan, Adriano and many others (they are too young to be called stars yet) they are still in their early 20's (and as far as I know most of those that are called stars are over 25 like Beckham, Figo, Ronaldo, Raul, Totti etc.).

All players you name were stars already before they were 25 too. Van der vaart and Chivu already are stars. :)

And you forget the players who are under 25 and a star, like for example Owen and Saviola.

The problem is that Koeman never got along with Mido, how can u put a good striker like him on the bench or on reserve if u r in need for one (like I said before, the guy scored 12 goals in 11 games last season, and was named the third best foreign player in Holland)

Well, perhaps the didn`t get along cause of constant trouble mido created by failing too follow the rules of Ajax. Those rules apply too everyone, so also too Mido. Nobody breaks them, only him, getting late for sponsor meetings, negative ungrounded press releases, throwing with scissors, I mean the list is endless, I expect a bit of trouble of him, he is young ,but this was just pathetic, a certain amount of maturity should be there if you play for ajax. Zlatan wasn`t easy to all the time but learned from his mistaskes, Mido just never did.

We play 4-3-3 most of the time, with only one central striker. And for the rest him being throwed out when we obviously need our strikers should be a hint on how bad he did behave, Koeman isn`t stupid, even let him back on advice off the players, but 3 days later he broke yet again a rule, at a pro club where stakes are high as much as the expectations you expect discipline and club commitment, Mido didn`t show that. He deserved what he got.

And when they asked him about a move he said no, I wanna stay in Ajax for atleast an extra year to learn more. Mido was wrong but then again he needs someone to guide him not to punish him till the end of the season.

We did guide him, but it didn`t help, Koemans bond wasn`t very good with Mido, but Beenhakker was cool with him. But if both koeman and assistant couldn`t get too him it should be clear Mido just isn`t at the right place. A poll on the Ajax forum said close too 90% are happy that Mido will be released.

He got rented out and now found guidance at Celta, good for him, Ajax and for now also Celta.

And as u heard he scored a goal in his first appearance with Celta, and had an amazing chance from a bicycle kick that the keeper barely touched it to keep it out, a player like this need to play to increase and boost his talent or he will rust. ;)
For now I wish Ajax the best, hopefully they will find a new forward soon that Koeman likes!!!

Good for him, I hope he founds a new team and wish him all the luck, but for Ajax he was usefull at times but frustrating more, koeman did the only right thing.

He does need too play but so does Zlatan, and if we use one deep striker the best one starts, and that is and was Zlatan.

Perhaps if he showed up more on time on training for some practise he would have been a starter for Ajax.

miro

03-31-2003, 09:54 PM

Well like u said, the Celta solution is the best for both of them (Ajax, and Mido), and like I said, I like Ajax too and wish them the best of luck, and as for Mido, I think he is better off playing in another club as the problem with Ajax is too hard to fix, and might lead to more problems if they decide to keep him!!:cool:

soccer fanatic

04-01-2003, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by miro
Well like u said, the Celta solution is the best for both of them (Ajax, and Mido), and like I said, I like Ajax too and wish them the best of luck, and as for Mido, I think he is better off playing in another club as the problem with Ajax is too hard to fix, and might lead to more problems if they decide to keep him!!:cool:

Agreed. :shocked: :D:D

It is the best for both and don`t think I don`t want Mido too have a succesfull career, I wish him all the best, just not with Ajax anymore. :)

miro

05-18-2003, 11:08 PM

Hey Soccerfanatic,
Is it true that Koeman wants Mido back on the team and that Beenhakker will go to Spain to try to resolve the issues that they had??
I think it won't be a very good idea, as both Mido and koeman can't stand each other by now, and the problems will arise again.

Also, is it true that Zlatan might move to Roma this summer (I heard this, and this is one of the reasons that lead Koeman to change his mind and ask Beenhakker to get Mido back)!!:rolleyes:

soccer fanatic

05-19-2003, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by miro
Hey Soccerfanatic,
Is it true that Koeman wants Mido back on the team and that Beenhakker will go to Spain to try to resolve the issues that they had??
I think it won't be a very good idea, as both Mido and koeman can't stand each other by now, and the problems will arise again.

Yes it is true, but like you said, it won`t work I reckon, but right now it is hard to find good strikers, so I guess Ajax is looking for options. I agree with you, wouldn`t be wise, not for ajax in total, including the players group, next year we should have a squad without unrest, missing Mido cost us in the CL. We only had one striekr, one real striker in Zlatan.

Also, is it true that Zlatan might move to Roma this summer (I heard this, and this is one of the reasons that lead Koeman to change his mind and ask Beenhakker to get Mido back)!!:rolleyes:

No, Zlatan wont leave, he doesn`t want to, and Van Basten, currenlt working for ajax told him to stay to, he even is prepared to sign a new deal, so he wont leave, but roma did offer the moneyu Ajax wanted for him. A million under it.

No I dont think that is the reason, and I hope we will sell Mido and get Machlas back, but his salary is to high I think for a not first team player. Ajax knows Mido is a good striker with possibilities, but with behaving like that, he isn`t, he is a God in Egypt, but with Ajax he isn`t a God, we are used to great players. so it is kind of tough accepting he is just one of the guys, not even a steady starter in the team.

A lot can happen in a month......