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RaulGonzalez7
02-28-2002, 08:13 AM
1 Sand, around 20m (in australian dollar)
2 Nesta, around 25m
3 Vieri is the best player in the game, worth paying 50m for

Always Laziali
04-10-2002, 10:41 PM
Maybe you are exagerating....Nesta isn't worth 25m.I bought him for 18m.I recommend Martin Cardetti of river plate.

ItalianBoy
04-11-2002, 02:25 AM
Well I play CM 01/02 of course and Cardetti aint doing so hot with me this season. I had a goo deal but I mean he hasent scored one goal in 15 games he played! Even DP is not good or at least not for his skills. I am told that Kluivert scores alot.
www.thedugout.net
Great site!
Is there a way we can organize to play against each other?

Looney
04-11-2002, 01:51 PM
Van Der Vaart and Saviola are my recommendations, young'uns who can play well for years. Also Issak Okoronkow, he cost me 150K and was easily my best defender.

ItalianBoy
04-11-2002, 06:48 PM
I read about Okoronkwo.
Is he really that good!? Thuram in the game is the worst!

Always Laziali
04-11-2002, 11:47 PM
if you play a 3-6-1 formation like i do,you will find him superb..i mean he scored 17 goals in 14 games for me.

ItalianBoy
04-12-2002, 03:57 AM
I play a weird 4213, But I will try him back there.
Have you seen Van Nistelrooy? Man, the guy scored something like 40 goals this season!
By the way, if you want a really good youngster, try out Guzman. Man I dont know why, but he is one goal a game for me. and most of all. Try Gallardo! The guy is a bomb!

Looney
04-12-2002, 03:34 PM
Okoronkow is like CM01/02's answer to Bakayoko from CM97/98, he's incredible yet in life he probably sucks. He's got at least 19's in the last column of attributes (tackling, technique etc.) and he's 20-20 on pace and acceleration. The thing about him is, he had only 4 caps when I signed him and he managed to get a full (not a "conditional wait a few weeks") work permit despite being mostly unknown, so I reckon he's just specially made to be bought as a good player.

And I have to agree with you on the Van Nistelrooy one, the guy's simply the best striker in the game without the use of editors. I read somewhere that To Madeira's (again I say who?) pretty good, but he keeps signing for Sporting and not play so I dunno how good he is.

ItalianBoy
04-12-2002, 06:58 PM
You know who else is good. Marcelo Gallardo, Figo, Totti.
If you go to
www.thedugout.net they have the complete list of who is very good. Still I noticed that also Guzman is very good. I mean if you see his skills you wouldt pay a dime, but if you let him play a season he scores at least 20 goals, at least with me. Plus it always depeds who you are playing and how. Thats why the game is good. But over all. Guzman scored me 19 goals in like 30 games.
Ibrahim Said is supposed to be a good defender.
What team do you play and etc.

Looney
04-13-2002, 02:43 PM
dugout's great for downloads, but www.champmaniacs.de got a great list of players to sign, it's not much in way of player description tho. Vieira's good too if you play the 4-1-3-2 formation with him in the DMC position, he gets 5-6 tackles a game on average.

ItalianBoy
04-13-2002, 07:55 PM
I will try that site.
Have you tried Zidane? in Cm 00/01 he was the best!
now its too much money to buy him and he wont come.
Plus I have Gallardo.

Looney
04-14-2002, 01:56 PM
Zidane doesn't go anywhere except Juventus in my game. Figo's better than Zidane in the game I reckon, but they both get old too quickly for the money Real Madrid charges for them.

ItalianBoy
04-15-2002, 03:49 AM
You are right, still if you can get a good deal like exchanging Montero and DP for Figo. Man thats good!
Plus, I have a whole list of players I found I will give it to you later. I bought Bonera Said, and Okoronkwo. Lets see this new season how it will go. Last season I just finished wasent so great. My D sucked bad. Thuram I sold him to MANU finally. He aint good at all.
Anyway, I will be back.
I found some young stikers that scored more goals than Van NR!

ItalianBoy
04-15-2002, 07:49 AM
Have you heard anything on the new CM? I think it will be called CM4 and it should come out this summer or somehting. I heard it will be very good with new options etc, but one thing that will be totally new is the playing on the net? do you know anythign?

Looney
04-15-2002, 01:28 PM
I heard CM4 may have up to 50 leagues (probably most of the European and Asian leagues) and a 2D match engine so we can see players or something. And they're apparently working on making it work over the net "one way or the other". But I heard that last year and the site that had it took the article off. Plus I think one of the creators of CM is leaving Sports Interactive so there may be no more CM after CM4! :(

ItalianBoy
04-15-2002, 06:29 PM
Well I heard all that except that the guy will leave. Plus I think they will still make CM they have to! I mean in EURO at least they make a lot of money.
Anyway, lets hope well.

Looney
04-16-2002, 02:16 PM
I'm hoping eventually there'll be some sort of virtual reality Champman or something. But we'll all be too old to be jumping up and down the virtual touchline by then!

And it's only one half of the creators who's leaving, maybe they'll keep coming out with versions but it might not be the same. God forbid the day it becomes EA Sport's Premiership Manager!

And have you noticed that 4-1-3-2 isn't quite as good as it was in previous versions? I used to win a whole season undefeated but now it's really neck to neck. I thought it was maybe the players but they're mostly the same ratings just that I score less even with Vieri and Van Nistelrooy up front.

ItalianBoy
04-16-2002, 10:05 PM
All I know is that Cm is a very good game. I hope they will keep on making them like always. I am playing with Cipriani and trezeguet now with DP supporting. they seem to do ok. You win a season with no defeats? Damn! I got to 6th place last season. I just started the new season and I am 9th after 3 games. But I think I will do well this time.
By the way. I found some good young players that score so many goals!
I will list them here later.

ItalianBoy
04-17-2002, 08:03 PM
I heard about Estebarraz or osmething and he is supposed to be an amazing goal scorer!

Looney
04-18-2002, 01:50 PM
I know Bobby Zamora's performance is fairly good if he's given a few years to develop but he sucks at first and costs a bit so I didn't bother buying him when I started the game again. Sergey Semak does well in the EPL but he's not a striker, he does make striker do good tho!

And I was into like season 5 or 6 when I went undefeated in the old versions. I spent a lot of money and ruined a few careers getting the perfect team to work actually.

ItalianBoy
04-20-2002, 10:37 PM
Well I made me own tattic and man I won everygame!
Here it is, Its me own, just play it as it is for 4 games or so. I personally won everygame.
My team is:
Buffon
Figo DP Guzman o'Neill Jofre
Salas Treze

Cipriani is a good player too man.
Romeo seems to score alot.

ItalianBoy
04-20-2002, 10:37 PM
Well I made me own tattic and man I won everygame!
Here it is, Its me own, just play it as it is for 4 games or so. I personally won everygame.
My team is:
Buffon
Figo DP Guzman o'Neill Jofre
Salas Treze

Cipriani is a good player too man.
Romeo seems to score alot.
If you give me your e-mail I can send you me formation.

Looney
04-21-2002, 03:24 PM
I just played Juve with Milan today, DP-Salas-Trezeguet scored 4 combined against me while my Rui-Pippo-Sheva did another 4 against Juve for a 4-4 draw. There's a good thing about champman, the matches between these two are entertaining like they should be in RL. Trezeguet doesn't do too bad on some of my games (I've got one main one and three others), he bagged 25 in the Serie A despite playing in a fairly defensive formation and gets 75% of shots and passes on target. I tried to buy him but he was beyond my budget.

ItalianBoy
04-21-2002, 10:18 PM
Well since the new season isnt started yet, my team changed around a bit. I bought Varela from Uruguay. I wanna see how he plays.
Hey, can you check on Jandro pls?! He plays for Valencia. In my CM he scored about 40 goals out of 44 games. so I have him up front now with One of Treze Salas or Cipriani.

Looney
04-22-2002, 02:37 PM
Well I can't play champman for a while 'cause I have my mid session exams for uni atm. But I remember Jandro, he scored an away goal against me team in Europe once and scared me shitless. I kept track of him for while, he seemed very average one season with 8 in 34 matches then he moved to Real Madrid and scored 36 goals in 38 matches. I remember looking at his hidden stats on an editor, his dribbling was 41 in the editor and 20 in the game. But his performances were really erratic.

ItalianBoy
04-22-2002, 06:47 PM
Out of 9 games he played he scored 7 goals. One especially at the 92th minute after a tie against Aek for the UEFA cup!

Looney
04-23-2002, 01:37 PM
We have very different games I think, Jandro's fairly erratic on mine, one great was Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink, 16 goals in the ECL. How is Vieri in yours? In mine he's a bit of a whinger, I bought him for 28 million because he fell out with Cuper, he scored 52 in 46 matches in my first season then I bought Van Nistelrooy to parnter and Vieri dropped to 14 in 45 matches (Van Nistelrooy got 30 in 50) then wanted a ridiculously expensive contract so I offloaded him to Valencia where now he's requested transfer because he once again fell out with his manager. I think they put Anelka's mental attributes into Vieri's.

ItalianBoy
04-23-2002, 05:30 PM
I know what you mean, I am at the third season and Jandro had problems and wanted to move, so since he scored 44 goals in 46 matches the season before I bought him in exchange of Cardetti.
Vieri too wants to go away at the end of the season. Still he has a lot of goals.
But Jandro is playing fairly well, out of 9 games he scored 7 goals.

Looney
04-24-2002, 03:26 PM
I retract my statements about Anelka's mental attributes. I had a quick go on champman today, in my game Anelka now plays for Leverkusen and he's got a list of whinges longer than list of outstanding dives by Inzaghi. He's being treated for depression, hates the manager and the assistant, wants to move, wants more money, feels the media/the refs/the fans/the rest of the world is too harsh on him, hates his teammates, is homesick and thinks the rest of the team is underacheiving even at 2nd in the Bundesliga by a point and that's just for starters! At least most strikers in champman when they whinge they pretty much have a right like when they score a ton the season before but Anelka's a major flop! I think maybe he's just a little bit exaggerated by the people who put down his attributes there.

Oh and Jandro's moved from Real to Deportivo, he hasn't played a match yet it's just 16th of December in game.

And how is Cardetti? In my game his stats aren't too great but I keep hearing about how good he is. BTW Cavenaghi is good too, scores 23 in 17 in the Apertura and 18 in 15 in the Clasura.

ItalianBoy
04-24-2002, 06:11 PM
I got Cavenaghi loaned but I have Cipriani treze salas Jandro.
Cardetti is ok. Scored 15 goals in 30 games.
I still dint find a tactic that wins everygame.

ItalianBoy
04-24-2002, 11:34 PM
anyone want to play a network gamne? I can opnly join since I have a 56K.
for now.
Let me know.

ItalianBoy
04-26-2002, 06:11 AM
I actually created a network game, if you want to join let me know here.

ItalianBoy
04-26-2002, 06:26 AM
Well I can create it now since I erase it.
Also, does anyone know if I can join or create network games with a DEMO?
Thats interesting ist it?

ItalianBoy
04-27-2002, 12:34 AM
I made a kick ass 3412.
I am winnign like crazy! :D

Always Laziali
05-27-2002, 06:16 PM
I hate 3-5-2 formations , i don't know why but i can't seem to win with that tactic . That is why i am using 4-4-2 . Anyway the best buy i think is Djibril Cisse which i bought for £14m from Auxerre . He scored 9 in 6 in his 1st season and 10 in 12 due to a 8 month injury . What do you think of him ?

ItalianBoy
06-07-2002, 08:56 PM
Well like I said I use my 3412, and Montella and Totti are just awesome, Cassano and Bati too. I bought for a really low price Jofre, his average last season was 7.45 which is not bad. And his price went up form 2 billion liras to 12 billions.
I am Roma, And Totti is the best player in the game, he scores like crazy and assists like crazy.

Flukey Lukey
06-07-2002, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by ItalianBoy
I actually created a network game, if you want to join let me know here.

I know its a long time after the actual post, but if yoiu still want to play a netwrk game i will play.

Also if anyone else wants to play a network game let me know.
Unfortunately i cant host.

Always Laziali
06-08-2002, 01:32 AM
What is your internet speed?

ItalianBoy
06-08-2002, 01:50 AM
Sorry man, I like to play a network game but I cant host. Let me know.

Looney
06-08-2002, 05:15 AM
Ooh this thread's back! I have to suggest the Saviola-Kluviert combo, I haven't noticed til lately but the two of them at Barca has scored nearly 200 goals between them in around 3 seasons. And Crespo too, I think he's basically carrying Lazio in my game. Oh and Italianboy, Jandro's retired in my game now, 2 year long injury. Sad end to a good player eh?

Always Laziali
06-08-2002, 05:34 AM
I am using the trio of D'aléssandro,Crespo and Romeo and trust me it is superb.Crespo and Romeo has scored 18 goals in 23 games between them.

Looney
06-08-2002, 05:50 AM
It's unfair how many great Argentine attackers there are in CM01/02. Cavenaghi can be a god in the game after a while, I've finally bought the guy and he's got me 20 in 24 in first season whilst struggling with new lifestyle and my two best playmakers Riquelme and Van Der Vaart being out for a bit in the season.

Always Laziali
06-08-2002, 06:13 AM
You shouldn't keep 2 playmakers.Be like me,play one playmaker which is D'aléssandro.

Looney
06-08-2002, 01:15 PM
Nah Van Der Vaart also go on my left wing on occasions. Riquelme's in the hole while Van Der Vaart pulls the strings from behind, it all works out. I got Gattuso to tackle everything that moves and he does a fairly good job at it.

Always Laziali
06-08-2002, 02:02 PM
I am perhaps the craziest manager in the whole forums.I am planning to make my whole midfield Argentinian.
It goes like this:

Romeo Crespo
Mista/Castroman Simeone/Gianichedda D'alessandro Battaglia

Looney
06-08-2002, 02:10 PM
I've made an all U-23 midfield once with Rosicky, Van Der Vaart, D'Alessandro and Gerrard, kicked some serious ass!

Always Laziali
06-08-2002, 02:15 PM
wow,didn't they have very little experience.You should have someone over 30 to keep balance.You are not David O'leary you know?

Looney
06-08-2002, 02:31 PM
I had Maldini in defense and Albertini and Gattuso were around to play, I actually bought Gerrard just to have an U-23 midfield and he can take over from Gattuso and Albertini, in the end he did so well he became my full time starter (kinda silly me paying 14 million pounds for a back up player eh?). Tho eventually I replaced Gerrard with Donati and Rosicky and D'Alessandro were sold for mega bucks 'cause of their ridiculous wage demands and bought Riquelme and stuck Gattuso out right again and the midfield's better again.

Tho one thing I really don't like abou CM, all the legends like Blanc, Maldini, Baggio etc. end up being coaches for some unknown side in Belgium or something, they should be the next generation of managers I have to try and conquer!

Always Laziali
06-08-2002, 02:37 PM
you should introduce a salary cap like me.All the players who want over £80,000 would be sold.How much did you buy D'alessandro.I am negotiating with River over £13,000,000 plus Kovacevic and Cesar.

Looney
06-08-2002, 03:02 PM
I paid 5 million up front 5 after 40 league matches and 10 after 30 caps. My wage limit is 70000 pounds a week, 75000 if he's an absolute god or if he's my full time captain, any more and I generally tell them to bugger off. I try to keep my weekly wage bill at around about 1-1.5 million at best. I saw Barcelona in my game and they had 3 million a week and I just wonder how they pay for that.

And Nicolas Anelka, got released by the "Just Sporting Clause" 'cause he was unhappy at his club and claimed his manager was unfair at slagging him off.

Always Laziali
06-08-2002, 03:14 PM
My average wage is only £950000 per week.I like it that way and i love the Argentinian influence.

Flukey Lukey
06-08-2002, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by ItalianBoy
Sorry man, I like to play a network game but I cant host. Let me know.

OK. I will try and find a host and get back to you.

Flukey Lukey
06-08-2002, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by HernanCrespo
My average wage is only £950000 per week.

:shocked:

surley a typo somewhere there?

Looney
06-08-2002, 03:36 PM
I think Crespo meant his club's overall wage per week. My average wage is a million pounds a week.

I try to keep a domestic influence on my teams usually, at Milan I always at least have an all-italian defense and in England I try to put in English players whenever I can. Surprisingly it works out fairly good, and also my foreigners tend to speak the same language as at least one other player or coach, as a result I've rarely had people struggling with new lifestyles.

And Cavenaghi, have you tried him? I can't believe how good he is!

Always Laziali
06-08-2002, 03:44 PM
I don't buy players who are too young.I want players like bernardo Romeo and Crespo who are quite young.They are the best partnership i have.They seem to score in every single game .

Looney
06-08-2002, 03:57 PM
I like them young generally so I don't have to spend tons a few years later again. I initially have a couple of big name signings like Vieira to keep up current standards and stuff then buy young and cheap (mostly from promising youngsters lists on the net) and when the current crop gets old I've got a bunch of youngsters ready to take over.

Always Laziali
06-08-2002, 04:06 PM
Great.By the way,when is cm4 coming out worldwide?I can't wait for it to come.It would be so exciting.

ItalianBoy
06-08-2002, 08:03 PM
I am at my second year with Roma, I won the Scudetto and the CL,
Totti supporting Montella and BAti is the best!
In the midfield I only bought Jofre and polga. I am in pretty good shape and I like to spend my money wisely.
In D thats where I bought, I bought Okoronkwo. I got a good team, and the Roma youngsters are pretty good. Bovo, Meloni, etc good players.

Flukey Lukey
06-08-2002, 10:44 PM
I have got Kidderminster Harriers from bottom of the 3rd division to the prem.

I have managed to lure Rivaldo and Thuram to the club!!

Always Laziali
06-09-2002, 04:47 AM
In my game:This is going to be my 1st team line up at the end of the current season.
Pletikosa
Oddo Nesta Stam Cesar/Pesaresi
Mendieta Simeone/Battaglia D'alessandro/Gianichedda Stankovic/Casttoman
Crespo Romeo

Looney
06-09-2002, 05:35 AM
I'm on my 5th season with Milan and on my way to completing a hat trick of ECLs. It's also Albertini's last season as a player I would think cause I'm planning on making him a full time coach. My striker force is Shevchenko and Cavenaghi supported by Riquelme in a 3-4-1-2 formation and the strange thing is that my team scored 90 goals in 34 matches in the Serie A last season while conceding a lot, maybe I should've played in the Premiership as Manchester United?

CM4 I think will be out worldwide a month or two after it hits the stores in Europe. That would be around October or November I think. I should start saving up for a new comp, wonder what kind of power is needed to run 50 leagues?

Always Laziali
06-09-2002, 05:58 AM
Great for you.But if you want to run a few leagues like let's say 4,is it okay to use a pentium2?

Looney
06-09-2002, 06:13 AM
I'm not sure, the difference between running 16 leagues on CM 99/00 and 01/02 was pretty big so I reckon a P2 would only run one of two leagues in CM4. I'm thinking with all the new stuff they're saying will be in CM4 it'll take an Athlon or a P4 to fully appreciate it.

ItalianBoy
06-10-2002, 04:41 AM
Well my line up is this
Pellizoli
Okoronkwo Samuel Cufre'
Cafu Polga Emerson Candela
Totti
Montella Batistuta.
I am trying to get D'Alessandro so that than I can sell Candela, but River just dosen't give up with my deals. they want way too much for him. And for now I am set with Candela and Jofre.
I also bought Duah, The guy scored me a goal in the 90th minute in the first game!
I want to see how he will fare later on.
Plus in EUROPE CM4 will come out in october? or Before?

Always Laziali
06-10-2002, 04:47 AM
When i finally bought D'alessandro,Cragnotti cancelled the deal as he thought it was too unrealistic.I signed Dario Husain and Bernardo Romeo for £19.5m.But they complete my argentine attack.

Looney
06-10-2002, 05:08 AM
D'Alessandro is ridiculously expensive, but I always got him via the appearance payment thing. I think the chairman's only concerned with the up front payment. Tho at any rate it's probably cheaper to get Riquelme and he'll do a good job as playmaker too.

Always Laziali
06-10-2002, 05:16 AM
Yeah,maybe we could play a network game some time.

ItalianBoy
06-10-2002, 05:22 AM
Cragnotti? Cuz in your game Lazio bought him first right?

Always Laziali
06-10-2002, 06:30 AM
No way.When i paid £12m plus exchange Kovacevic and £7.5m for appearances,he says that is unrealistic.

ItalianBoy
06-10-2002, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by HernanCrespo
No way.When i paid £12m plus exchange Kovacevic and £7.5m for appearances,he says that is unrealistic.
What are you talking about?:confused:

Always Laziali
06-10-2002, 07:03 AM
I bidded for D'alessandro with that amount and when he was set to join,Cragnotti says the bid is too unrealistic.

Looney
06-10-2002, 12:42 PM
I think Cragnotti doesn't believe in transfer prices of twice the asking price upfront. He's one of the more hands on manager in the game. Try to offer a little upfront and a lot for other appearances.

Always Laziali
06-10-2002, 02:11 PM
He must be mad and if that is the case,who can i sign?

Looney
06-10-2002, 02:34 PM
Riquelme is an alternative, tho he might prove to be just as expensive he's about as good and his asking price is higher, tho he is older so he won't last as long. I reckon Rosicky would do a fairly decent job too.

Always Laziali
06-10-2002, 02:54 PM
I want my team to work well as i have already signed Husain,Romeo and Mista and they seem to work well with D'alessandro!

Flukey Lukey
06-10-2002, 11:12 PM
ItalianBoy:

I have found a host if you are still interested.

I have sent you a personal message.

PFC
06-11-2002, 07:17 AM
Does anyone know any good sites about the new CM ?

valdanito
06-11-2002, 10:23 AM
its out already?:confused:

Flukey Lukey
06-11-2002, 10:29 AM
No its not.

CM3 2001-02 is out.

CM4 should be out just before or just after The new year.

Always Laziali
06-11-2002, 11:41 AM
I thought it was on October.They said it was on June but it pushed later the date and it should be in October just like all the cm games.

Looney
06-11-2002, 02:56 PM
October I'm pretty sure is the date they'll release it. It's when all the major european leagues and the european competitions have started and all late transfers done.

Always Laziali
06-11-2002, 03:23 PM
Is it true that there will be over 50 leagues in it?

ItalianBoy
06-12-2002, 03:59 AM
And I got it, Thanks man, but you will have ot change time cuz I am already playing a game at my 12 AM and at 12 PM as you know there are the games. Maybe next year! lol :D

Always Laziali
06-12-2002, 04:02 AM
Hey you guys!Why bother to host now when CM4 is gonna come out real soon!

Flukey Lukey
06-12-2002, 09:36 AM
I would be suprised if it is out before the new year.

Looney
06-12-2002, 02:13 PM
50 leagues is what I've heard from most sources. Plus we finally get to see the players in action I think.

What do you want to see in CM4? I'd like to see more daily interaction with players, at the moment it's just fine them or warn them, wanna publicly praise or bag them without waiting for the newspapers and I really want to have a HT chat or something like that!

Michael
06-20-2002, 07:07 PM
It will be out in October.
The viewing mode is 2D players running round a 2D pitch, like the radar option on some FIFA games.

feggie
06-26-2002, 09:06 PM
you guys get your info from like a crappy site! i have seen so much more! do any of you actually play the champ games?

Looney
06-27-2002, 03:24 AM
So where do you get your info? And why would we be talking about Champman if we don't play it?

And what do you know about the CM4 that we don't?

feggie
06-27-2002, 12:30 PM
i get my news from the magnificent www.cmfaq.com and the linked forums which are so much better than this tofu loving place!

JD
06-27-2002, 12:33 PM
feggie wots wrong with tofu
watch out I'm from Islington u weegie ned bast

feggie
06-27-2002, 02:21 PM
it was drulic who told us you all love tofu and know nothing about champ!

soccerholic
06-27-2002, 09:40 PM
and what does your forum have better than this?


Is it lamer, more gay?

feggie
06-27-2002, 09:48 PM
well its better than anything you lame maltesers have to talk about!

like isnt hockey a girls game tofu jockey?

soccerholic
06-27-2002, 09:53 PM
atleast we don't have cocky Rangers fans here who think that they rule d world. Rangers are always second to celtic and as u call scum is your undertaker!

feggie
06-27-2002, 10:00 PM
right now fartin o feel hasnt beaten eck mcleish as rangers manager!

we beat the scum in both cup competitions last season and have won a lot more senior trophies than that pil a pish!

and this coming from a guy whos countrys biggest export is some kid called mifsud! who i hear you say! exactly!

who shagged all the boys? who shagged all the boys?
celtic boys club, celtic boys club! They shagged all the boys!

tuseef
06-27-2002, 10:07 PM
yeah like rangers are soooooo cool

there best players are Rod "i cant do it in england" Wallace and Michael "oops i think im injured again" Mols

feggie
06-27-2002, 10:22 PM
mr wallace is doing it in england, back at bolton and scoring more than he did at rangers!

mr mols is only injured because of an atrocious tackle by the monkey like freaky german knobend of a keeper KAHN

what the hell was he doing going in studs up at the back of someones knee at the touchline! what an absolute tosser! molsy is great!

tuseef
06-27-2002, 10:24 PM
lolz looks like i have touched a raw nerve eh fegmeister?

OOPS I THINK I DID IT/IM INJURED (delete as applicable) AGAIN

feggie
06-27-2002, 10:28 PM
injuries are a bad topic for rangers! Do you remember daniel prodan, seb rozental, or michael ball(wont be back til after christmas). or mols or de boer, never 100%

or amo he missed a season at the start or marco negri and his fecking squash injury! the tosser!

tuseef
06-27-2002, 10:30 PM
well at least you aint got Steven "Can i have the week off plz gaffer?" Gerrard playing for ya

feggie
06-27-2002, 10:33 PM
hehe, im still growing and it hurts! Was it just me or was growing piss easy for everybody else!!!! Whinging barsteward! i blame the youth of the nation(great pod song by the way)!

tuseef
06-27-2002, 10:41 PM
erm.. who?

feggie
06-27-2002, 10:47 PM
gerrard, i thought some of his back problems were found to be a result of growing pains!

tuseef
06-27-2002, 10:49 PM
i knew that!!

i meant who r pod???

feggie
06-27-2002, 10:58 PM
christian rock group from the usa

Payable On Death! they also sang alive and have the great album satellite!

tuseef
06-27-2002, 11:03 PM
me only into hip hop like

feggie
06-27-2002, 11:08 PM
like up the small biggie and boyakasha homie tofu boy!

So you wouyldnt mind getting down wid it wid missteeq and ashanti then word to ma wideboy T-spoon!

tuseef
06-27-2002, 11:12 PM
some playa hater named feggie is trying to chirps me gyal....i is reckon he is cruising for a bruisin'

feggie
06-27-2002, 11:17 PM
yeah, mos def to the max, like death row on a regga tip mr lubba lubba.

Come on me hoeys show this playa hater hes a dobber noo chib him and nick his buckie!

Yir maw gave us a swatch a er fannie!

westcoast o scotland!

soccerholic
06-28-2002, 08:07 AM
Oqodu kwiti hemm boloh m'hemmx aktar xi tejd agghax jekk tergu tipruvaw tifthu halqkomn natqalkom zobbkom barra.... fimtu?

feggie
06-28-2002, 01:10 PM
maltesers dont rap, they just melt in your hand, eh big boy?

Looney
07-01-2002, 06:09 AM
:rolleyes:

PopA
07-01-2002, 11:37 PM
set any forward to man mark the opposing GK! in my first season playing with Man U (strange enough my italy league crashes), i used this technique and van nistelrooy scored 84 goals, without counting exhibition games in which he scored up to 5 goals per match... won everything that year! (ahh memories:D :D :D )
the next season only scored 42, because the games AI worked out my technique...... still another treble

Essex_Lad
07-20-2002, 05:41 PM
Ben Burgess is the best player to get on CM he's quick and scores loads, check the picture!

waq
07-23-2002, 12:10 PM
Maxim Tsigalko has been the best buy for me check him outr he plays for some Belerussian team he is only 18 but excellnt his finishing is 20 and so are his other important stats for a striker and only 500,000 pounds if he were ate Real Madrid would be easily 20,000,000 million pounds get him quick at the begining of the game or else a giant rich club will pick him up and ya ain't never gonna get him after that!

waq
07-24-2002, 12:11 PM
Hey I'm the rapper here! :rolling:

waq
07-24-2002, 05:34 PM
P.O.D. is not a Christian rock band!? Were the hell did you get this idea from! They are a rap/metal band! Their vocalist is a rapper and their music is heavy rock most commonly known as metal! Christian rock band P.O.D. what is next Nas becomes a prophet and Lenny Kravitz becomes a rapper who raps about being a Jew! GOD! How silly you people are!

Petko
07-24-2002, 07:13 PM
I'd say Mateja Kezman from PSV is one of the best buys in the game

Check this out, I bought him from PSV in 2002/2003 season and these are his stats...

2002/2003 - 8 games, 3 goals - Average rating = 7.09
2003/2004 - 37 games, 16 goals - Average rating = 7.39
2004/2005 - 22 games, 13 goals - Average rating = 7.53
2005/2006 - 24 games. 10 goals - Average rating = 7.68
2006/2007 - 48 games, 28 goals - Average rating = 7.49
2007/2008 - 40 games, 27 goals - Average rating = 7.93
2008/2009 - 38 games, 28 goals - Average rating = 7.85
2009/2010 - 40 games. 24 goals - Average rating = 8.00
2010/2011 - 50 games, 25 goals - Average rating = 7.76
2011/2012 - 38 games, 17 goals - Average rating = 7.58


Awards:

2006/2007 - Supporters player of the year
2007/2008 - Italian Serie A Player Of The Year Third Place
2007/2008 - Italian Serie A Top Goalscorer
2007/2008 - Italian Serie A Foreign Player Of The Year
2008/2009 - Fifa World Footballer Of The Year
2008/2009 - World Footballer Of The Year
2008/2009 - European Footballer Of The Year Runner-Up
2008/2009 - European Striker Of The Year Runner-Up
2009/2010 - Italian Serie A Player Runner-Up
2009/2010 - Italian Serie A Top Goalscorer
2009/2010 - Italian Serie A Foreign Player Of The Year
2009/2010 - European Footballer Of The Year Runner-Up
2009/2010 - European Striker Of The Year Runner-Up
2009/2010 - Supporters Player Of The Year
2010/2011 - World Footballer Of The Year Third Place
2010/2011 - Italian Serie A Player Of The Year Runner-Up
2010/2011 - Italian Serie A Foreign Player Of The Year Runner-Up
2010/2011 - European Footballer Of The Year Third Place
2010/2011 - European Striker Of The Year Third Place
2010/2011 - Supporters Player Of The Year
2011/2012 - Awards Not Drawn Yet

waq
07-25-2002, 05:20 AM
Tsigalko scores about 2 goals a game!

feggie
08-09-2002, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by waq
P.O.D. is not a Christian rock band!? Were the hell did you get this idea from! They are a rap/metal band! Their vocalist is a rapper and their music is heavy rock most commonly known as metal! Christian rock band P.O.D. what is next Nas becomes a prophet and Lenny Kravitz becomes a rapper who raps about being a Jew! GOD! How silly you people are!

So you dont know anything about p.o.d. for gods sake there name gives it away a bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Payable on death, this is in reference to the fact that all your sins are brought before you once you die!!!!!!! They ARE a christian rock band who are heavily into religion and family!!!!!!! You just have to listen to any interview the band give to hear them praise god on numerous occasions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so is that waq with u?

Azerkid
08-11-2002, 12:03 AM
POD a christian rock group???? hahaha, thats bs!!!

feggie
08-15-2002, 03:16 PM
I realise the majority of members on this board are idiots but come on how can you ignore facts that are blatantly staring you in the face!

Azerkid
08-16-2002, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by feggie
I realise the majority of members on this board are idiots but come on how can you ignore facts that are blatantly staring you in the face!

:rolleyes:









:D

Roberto Abrego
08-16-2002, 06:51 PM
and ewill this game be available at PS2

feggie
08-21-2002, 02:27 PM
doubt it, its a pc game mainly though it has been released on x box!

ItalianBoy
08-22-2002, 01:08 AM
Well when is it supposed to come out? Any one know?
I cant wait.

Azerkid
08-22-2002, 01:34 AM
EA sports is gonna come out with a similar game called "Total Club Manager" or something like that, but supposed to be good and gonna come out in a few months.

feggie
08-22-2002, 07:09 PM
out just before christmas!

many manager sims have tried but nothing comes close to champ!

Juan
08-22-2002, 10:49 PM
I´m still a newbie at CM, but I´ve seen Bojan Djordjic (Man Utd) do some pretty good stuff. He´s very young too.

Also, Daniele Bonera (Brescia) and Jorge Samuel Caballero (Udinese) are very good if you want to improve your defense.

That is, of course, if you don´t mess with the values using the editor. I did that with the future abilities of some young Venezuelan players, and now I can´t buy any of them (I haven´t offered much though).

Douy
09-15-2002, 10:12 AM
does anyone know when the realese date is for this??

laziorules
09-16-2002, 05:27 AM
cm4 come out just before christmas i think...

Yacoob
09-16-2002, 09:08 AM
That's 4 not 03/04... ;)

Flukey Lukey
09-16-2002, 01:07 PM
There isn't a release date yet. SI Games released a statemant saying they 'do not know when it will be released so dont bother asking' or something silimar.

Juan
09-21-2002, 06:31 PM
Anyone knows any new features the game will have??

ItalianBoy
09-21-2002, 10:38 PM
Its supposed to have a 2D simulator, a site where you can meet people to play network games.
And Some better feautres for transfers, and also you could contact the AGENTS of the players.
More stuff is there I guess but I dont know.
Hope this helps a little.

Juan
09-23-2002, 05:59 PM
And the important question: Will I be able to continue my CM 01/02 carreer in CM4?

ItalianBoy
09-24-2002, 03:50 AM
Maybe.:confused:

Flukey Lukey
09-24-2002, 10:27 AM
But doubtfull. (it would be best to start a new one anyway)

Go to http://www.cmislife.hey.nu/Forums/index.php

for a CM Forum where they will be able to help you more.

ItalianBoy
09-24-2002, 05:47 PM
Well I play with napoli and I got form SERIE B to A thanks to Estebaranz and Graffiedi! The guy is awesome!
Get him if you want some 26 goals per season!
In D I know that samuel of roma is great. bonera Okoronkwo etc are good. but so far one of my best D as been troise. the guy is very good.
Now I am in SERIE A and it going to start soon.
This is the real deal.
:D

JV2001
10-09-2002, 07:52 PM
The release date is November 02, but I think that it will come out in December...

ItalianBoy
10-14-2002, 05:56 AM
Anyone want to play some network games like on Saturdays or something? Lets organize if you want to.
SERIE A, Liga or EPL?

ItalianBoy
10-21-2002, 06:09 PM
I heard Dec 9? Well if any of you gets it or knows that its actaully out let me know.
Have you guys heard of TCM2003? Will CM have the same options or better?
Anyone got a good site and I mean GOOD! Where I can see all the new features of CM4?
Thanks.

Looney
10-22-2002, 04:09 PM
From SIGAMES.com

"We'd like to confirm, as has been reported by the city today, that Championship Manager 4 will be released in February 2003.
We would like to make it clear that although we had been hoping for the game to be released this year, we had to make the choice of cutting out a number of features or giving you the best game possible. We chose the latter.

The game's development is currently going extremely well; you will get to see the game for the first time this Thursday with the magazine and we hope that you like what you see as much as we do."

ItalianBoy
10-22-2002, 05:29 PM
What features are being cut off?

I got this email.

Next Thursday (24th October 2002) will be the day you finally get a chance to see the most anticipated game of the decade (so far!) - Championship Manager 4. SI’s beautiful baby has been in development for a while and we’ve kept it a closely-guarded secret…until now.

The first ever Championship Manager 4 magazine to be released is your chance to sneak an exclusive look at the game and it\'s not too late to order your copy. Packed with a 20 page preview of CM4, including screenshots and interviews with the men at Sports Interactive, this is a mag that no serious CM fan can be without.

On the CD cover-mount you will find a \'rolling demo\' of the new 2D match engine used in the game, allowing you to watch your team in action for the first time, analyse the goals, the moves, the set pieces - all from the comfort of your PC. That’s not all! The CD also gives you a FREE data update for CM 01/02 to bring the players and teams up to date.

The price of the magazine is as follows:

£5.49 for people in the UK
£7.49 for Europe + Eire
£8.49 for the rest of the world

Prices include postage and packaging.

All you need to do now, is grab your credit or debit card and visit the ordering page https://www.futurenet.com/secure/single1.asp?ID=120. If you live in the UK the CM mag will arrive on (or just before the 24th October), otherwise allow a few days for delivery.

Make sure you don't miss out on this fantastic magazine; order your copy today.

Sports Interactive
http://www.sigames.com

Flukey Lukey
10-25-2002, 01:47 PM
Screenshots are now released for it. It looks good, a bit similar to CM3 but lots of nice new features. Here is 1 in case you haven't seen them.

soccer fanatic
10-25-2002, 02:20 PM
Will it also be released on any next gen console?

Looney
10-25-2002, 04:51 PM
God damn it looks like CM3 with more curves on the interface! The player screen doesn't seem to have anything different! There better be more features than just that!

soccer fanatic
10-25-2002, 06:09 PM
Probably have more options in how to treat your players

ItalianBoy
10-25-2002, 09:31 PM
I really dont see all those changes, except Happines? I hope they have more features.
Theo nly way they will let you know if by buying it.

Flukey Lukey
10-25-2002, 11:57 PM
there are lots more features. here's a pic of the 2d match engine.

soccerfanatic i don't think so.

soccer fanatic
10-26-2002, 12:08 AM
Could you name some new features?

Flukey Lukey
10-26-2002, 12:18 AM
reserve league, under 19 squad and league. You can play your own reserve team. the 2D match engine. you can offer players promises. The training looks to be vastly improved. there are more.

try going to www.sigames.com but it may well not work because they have been so busy.

here's another shot

soccer fanatic
10-26-2002, 12:32 AM
Thanks! Do you have to coach it yourself or can you let someone else coach the 2nd team?

You can play your own 2nd team? what do you mean? Like in a game, as a player? I hope not.

game sounds great, defenitly worth getting.

Flukey Lukey
10-26-2002, 01:26 PM
I expect your assistant would take charge of the 2nd team. You can play against your own reserve team, for example nottingham forest vs. nottingham forest reserves.

example:

Looney
10-26-2002, 03:41 PM
The 2d engine looks confusing when it's stationary.....

Always Laziali
10-26-2002, 03:57 PM
can a 450 mhz with 64 ram play cm 4 ?

Looney
10-27-2002, 12:43 PM
I'll get CM4, then I'll tell you.

JD
10-27-2002, 01:38 PM
wo when is it out??!

Juan
10-27-2002, 05:34 PM
Lots of new training options:

BLAUGRANA
10-29-2002, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by JD
wo when is it out??!

WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE RELEASED?!!?!?!???!?!!??!!?!?

Looney
10-29-2002, 02:47 PM
FEBRUARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BLAUGRANA
10-29-2002, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Looney
FEBRUARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What??? Ridiculous. A bit late isn't it??

ItalianBoy
11-01-2002, 01:19 AM
It better be good!

Do you guys want to play a CM game online?
Lets organize.
CM 01/02 original.
Who will host? It needs to be a fast lane. Also, I am free on Saturdays.
About you guys?

Looney
11-01-2002, 12:15 PM
I only got 56K. and the weird thing is, I run cm 01/02 on an amd 2100+ and it's still slowish.....

Juan
11-01-2002, 07:00 PM
No tampering with the editor allowed, right?

ItalianBoy
11-01-2002, 07:17 PM
It dosent matter really, as long as the host is pretty fast and you are not doing other net tasks, I played it with 56K and sure its not the fastest but its not bad at all.

Looney
11-02-2002, 12:59 PM
Oh, what about the whole timezone problem?

Always Laziali
11-02-2002, 01:32 PM
We can play a network game but let it be CM 4 , i am willing to host , I am using cable so it will be quite fast

Juan
11-02-2002, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Juan
No tampering with the editor allowed, right?

ItalianBoy
11-02-2002, 08:05 PM
AL how can we play CM4 now!
Its not out yet, you want to play in FEB? I want to play now man. Plus time zone. Well we have to decide a time that is ok for who wants to play. I can play on Saturdays if you want like in the morning around lets say 12.
or at nite

Always Laziali
11-02-2002, 08:37 PM
I know we will play in February and don't worry about the timezone , it is 4.36 am now and i am still up

BLAUGRANA
11-03-2002, 02:03 AM
CM demo is available at Planetfootball.com.

ItalianBoy
11-03-2002, 02:25 AM
Demo for CM4?
:confused:

Always Laziali
11-03-2002, 03:17 AM
That is only the 2d match engine not the actual demo

Juan
11-03-2002, 03:10 PM
And it´s not playable, it´s just a video.

ItalianBoy
11-13-2002, 03:30 AM
So for sure it is coming out FEB?
It better be good man! And what baout CM5 so to speak? will it come out 4 months after this one? or what?
Are we going to play a Champ between us WSB?

hollowi
11-16-2002, 01:11 AM
Well if you think about CM3, it came around '98. So I don't think next one will be around just yet :o

Of course there are like CM '01-'02 but 03-04 will be only published for Xbox I think. So if 04-05 will be published in autumn '04, it's long time enough.

If CM4 has a net league option, I think that league with all it's players will have to be announced to some server (like sigames' own server) where the league is playable like day-per-day or week-per-week. Or then it has to have some very developed system that uses PBEM (Play By E-Mail) or something like that where the game has to be played totally turn-based. It's very complicated though, and I wouldn't wonder if the game hadn't this possibility. It works for two or maybe even five but like 10-20 who play over the Internet... I don't think so. Hope there is some possibility to play it though.

All those who are asking: it's coming in February according to the last news. Of course he can't be sure because once the game is late, it tends to be that way a few times.

hollowi
11-16-2002, 01:22 AM
TCM 2003 is more playable than CM 01-02 but certainly not as good. It has Fifa 2002 engine to look the games or then just text like in CM. It's ok as a game but I'd wait for CM4.

Looney
11-16-2002, 11:34 AM
CM4 will probably have a couple of updates before CM5 comes out, if it does at all.

ItalianBoy
11-21-2002, 08:17 PM
Well that is what I meant, updates.
Well, we can play CM01/02 now cant we? Anyone wanna play? When CM4 comes out we cna play that but for now lets play CM01/02.
I take Roma, anyone with fast lane wanna host?:)

Yacoob
11-21-2002, 08:29 PM
But if we're to play online, we'd have to agree on a specific time, don't we?

ItalianBoy
11-25-2002, 12:18 AM
Yes of course. Thats easy.

laziorules
11-30-2002, 01:17 PM
cm 4 out in feb :(

PopA
01-06-2003, 07:38 PM
gerardo torrado from ejido, he's mexican, age 22 and you can get him for about 1.4 million pounds....... great at corners
also, cherno samba from millwall, get him on bosman ruling at the end of the first season, he's like 15 at the beginning of the game, but get's very good

Looney
01-09-2003, 01:06 PM
Arjen Robben I found is damn good.......

PopA
01-10-2003, 12:16 AM
yes but when you play as ajax, it's kinda hard for PSV to let him go!

ItalianBoy
01-10-2003, 05:03 AM
I am playing already the second season with Lecce and I got off the free list O'Neill. He is so good! Kutuzov got him on loan, not bad. Coudet left on Bossman ruling! And I got him! He is good.
Stovini becomes hella good and gets to the NT soon.
Well, I was wondering if you wanted to play a Network game.
Let me know.

gnlvagosov
01-10-2003, 12:24 PM
I never played CM, is it that good? what's the idea of the game...

Looney
01-10-2003, 01:15 PM
You haven't played Champman? You don't even know what it's about!?!!?! INFIDEL!!! SLAY HIM! :p

gnlvagosov
01-10-2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Looney
You haven't played Champman? You don't even know what it's about!?!!?! INFIDEL!!! SLAY HIM! :p

i tried to play it once, but didn't get how to play it... all I know is that YOUR A COACH!:p

PopA
01-10-2003, 06:15 PM
ah maaaaaan you don't know what you're missing out...... i say it's addictive.....

ItalianBoy
01-11-2003, 02:21 AM
Yes GN its the best mangerial game there is.
And the new CM4 is ocming out this Feb.
Now what you do is that, yes, you area coach of a team you like and there are just as many tasks as in reali life.
Its hella good.
I agree, addictive.
:)

gnlvagosov
01-11-2003, 01:47 PM
while coaching a club do you get offers from other clubs to go and coach them or something?

Looney
01-11-2003, 01:51 PM
if you graph my academic acheivements over the years you'll see that there's a dramatic drop in performance around the same time I first got champman and each time I get a new update. coincidence? methinks not! it's addictive alright!

PopA
01-11-2003, 06:00 PM
i follow that pattern as well... i think it's also receding my hair line with it, and i'm only 15!:silly:

gnlvagosov
01-12-2003, 04:16 PM
I was able to find Championship Manager 01/02 season so I bought it immediately, played my first 5 games and im undefeated. I got myself a nice team, lol, stole half of Milan's team, and my best buy is Shevchenko he scored in everygame!:evil:

PopA
01-12-2003, 07:40 PM
you're juve right?
want some advice? make sure before you start a new game that you have "maximum database" on in the settings, that way all the players are there, and you can get great buys like isaak okoronkwo and julius aghahowa from Shaktar (and i mean these two guys are GREAT!)....... i once sold aghahowa at age 23 (he's 19 at the beginning) for 32 million pounds!
another tip - the best gk in the game? River Plate's Franco costanzo, at the beginning he's just as good as Oliver Kahn! and he's 20 yrs old!
those are three great buys gnlvagosov

ItalianBoy
01-13-2003, 12:18 AM
With time GN you will learn more about the game and will get hooked.
I have 2 seasons
One with Roma and one with Lecce.

Looney
01-13-2003, 12:32 PM
Shevchenko? You wanna know how good he is? He's bagged 60 goals in 58 matches for me this season! Just won my 3rd consecutive European Cup too!

BTW Okoronkwo is a must-get. And keep a tab on Nesta, in some games the Lazio manager doesn't play him so he gets to leave after a couple of seasons, tho he might still not come cheap.

And get Ebbe Sand, I had to manage Schalke as well just to see this guy bang in goals. God he's goooood.

gnlvagosov
01-13-2003, 02:51 PM
In 7 matches Shevchenko has scored 12 goals for me.
Trezeguet keeps getting injured, once he comes back he scores on the 4th or 10th minute then after 5 mins he gets injured! UNFAIR!:cry:

PopA
01-14-2003, 03:08 AM
i had v. nistelrooy for a season, i managed man u, scored 84 goals in that season, without counting friendlies and international goals...... that was amazing......

i might also like to say gnlvagosov, if trezeguet is repeatedly getting injured it could be one of two things:
1) first, check him with one of your physio's (physio report). he might have a recurring injury and you might need to send him for rehab (out for quite a while!:mad: )
2) he might simply be tired. Check training, and if his status is below 80% lets say, put him in no training for a few days, that should give him time to fully recover

try it out, and that should resolve your problems

Looney
01-14-2003, 12:05 PM
Is Trezeguet on light injury? Don't play a light injured player if you don't have to, they may get recurring injuries. BTW Trezeguet only gets 8 league goals in 34 matches usually for me, so I don't like him much.

gnlvagosov
01-14-2003, 01:37 PM
DAMN!!!!!!!!!
help!
im on a loosing streak...
4 loses, 3 draws! its all bad!
but why?
I have Vieri, Trezeguet, Del Piero, Shevchenko (signing Lopez, Crespo) as strikers
I have Ambrossini, Davids, Rui Costa, Nedved, Zambrotta, Pirlo, Brighi, Gattusso, Fiore, Mendieta as Mids
I have Maldini, Montero, Thuram, Iuliano, Tudor, Nesta, Mihaljovic
as defence
and Buffon as goalie!
SO WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG?
:cry:

BLAUGRANA
01-14-2003, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by gnlvagosov
DAMN!!!!!!!!!
help!
im on a loosing streak...
4 loses, 3 draws! its all bad!
but why?
I have Vieri, Trezeguet, Del Piero, Shevchenko (signing Lopez, Crespo) as strikers
I have Ambrossini, Davids, Rui Costa, Nedved, Zambrotta, Pirlo, Brighi, Gattusso, Fiore, Mendieta as Mids
I have Maldini, Montero, Thuram, Iuliano, Tudor, Nesta, Mihaljovic
as defence
and Buffon as goalie!
SO WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG?
:cry:

I don't have the game, so I can't help you out. However, I'd guess you're just a lowsy manager if you can't win with a squad like that. ;) :D

duttend
01-14-2003, 07:04 PM
try a 4-1-3-2 tactic and play offencive, hard tackles and press

soccer fanatic
01-14-2003, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by PopA
yes but when you play as ajax, it's kinda hard for PSV to let him go!

When you play for Ajax, why would you need him? :D

I found these players too be good, although I`m not sure if they are from the right version.

Fiorentin Petre. (right midfielder) (really cheap like 1million)

Konstantinou (striker) between 4/7 million If you are lucky even at 2.4, if he gets mad and transfer listed at own request.

Mihalcea (striker) around 3/4 million

faustino asprilla (striker) He wrecked the good team atmosphere everytime but also scores a freakin lot and costs really almost nothing. between 0.5/2 million.

Probably already mentioned, but still, expecially Petre rules, also in better teams like in the premiership.

talking about it make me willing too start a game again.

Any suggestions for teams too be?

I play a lot with Chelsea, Ajax and Vitesse.

PopA
01-15-2003, 03:01 AM
hehehe yes i agree soccerfanatic... btw i was messing around with the editor, filtering players with the best potential skills.... i put the filter on 190 (200 is the best), and Van der Vaart has a potential of 195!!! van der meyde has 180 something, so that just shows how good they are:D

gnlvagosov, the solution to your problems is a change of formation, and toggling the starting 11 periodically - sometimes a better player in a position than another one, let's say nesta is better centre back than chivu, but he doesn't get along with cannavaro (hypothetically speaking); whenever nesta and cannavaro are paired up, they won't play together well, and you'll concede more goals, but whenever chivu is paired up with either one, your defense is much more solid! This is all hypothetically speaking, i dunno if cannavaro and nesta don't get along or anything!
also if a player says a postive comment about another one in their like mental status screen (you know where they say if they're unhappy, or admire the coach etc), they are much more likely to work together very well and vice versa

i hope it helps anyone interested

PopA
01-15-2003, 03:02 AM
if you really want a challenge, soccerfanatic, use nottingham forest.... they got some good players, but a sad financial state:(

isn't flukey lukey a forest supporter?

Dimitris
01-15-2003, 09:14 AM
I would like to recommend some other players with low cost: 1.Florentin Petre from Dinamo Bucharest D/AM R
2.Guilehlmo Stendardo from Sampdoria, D R/C
3.Felipe from Vasco, D/AM L
4.Manolis Drosos from Kavala, SC (17 years old, Work rate: 20)
5.Regilio Vrede from Roda, DC
6.Bernardo Romeo from San Lorenzo, SC
7.Dionissis Chiotis from AEK, GK (Work Rate:20)

Looney
01-15-2003, 02:15 PM
If you're leaking goals at the end of the match, try subbing off players who are less than 80% fit during the match. And don't go defensive, attack and press til the end! And rotate your players, they get exhausted after a while. And how you managed to sign that many players without cheating is beyond me......

gnlvagosov
01-15-2003, 02:40 PM
I have to admit.. I cheated abit, by going coaching another team while coaching Juve and buying their players:silly: but I was fair! I sold Zambrotta, Tachinardi, Conte... all those guys:D
but anyways.. what formation is the best to use? any more help from you guys?
thanks to everyone specially to PopA

duttend
01-15-2003, 04:26 PM
try few defenders (maybe a sweeper), a big midfield with attacking wings, and 3 attackers. i would sell a few of ur players if i was u, (if the club dont have a great economy, u would risk to get fired with bad results too). u dont need many starplayers, I won the CL 5 times in a row with Rosenborg who doesnt have any real big star players and i was just buying a few midfielders and a striker). Try to not get panic and rush thru the game when its going bad, find a tactic who works for u and switch tactic every half season at least, but not all the time cuz then the players r getting unsecure. scout for young players and dont just buy temporary stars that is getting too old to play. give some players chance to play when others r injuried and they will improve more in the training.

soccer fanatic
01-15-2003, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by PopA
hehehe yes i agree soccerfanatic... btw i was messing around with the editor, filtering players with the best potential skills.... i put the filter on 190 (200 is the best), and Van der Vaart has a potential of 195!!! van der meyde has 180 something, so that just shows how good they are:D


those programmers knew their business. :D:D

I choose Vitesse, first match against Ajax I beat them 2-0. :cool:
I bought Solano for 2.300.000. :)

Forest was a good choice, but Vitesse is great too. Great players, reasonable expectations and good support from the board. One problem is though that there isnt much money. And they are in the coolest league of.... .... the Benelux.

One question, is there also a cm 00/01?

Really in need of finding a good defender. :(

duttend
01-15-2003, 05:00 PM
yes there is, and theres a 99/00 too. the newest is cm4 and are soon avaible.

PopA
01-15-2003, 09:06 PM
soccerfanatic, a good defender is isaak okoronkwo from shakhtar donetsk in ukraine, you get him for around 1.7 million pounds, he's EXCELLENT, and i think he'd work well with regilio vrede!

and btw gnlvagosov, it was obvious you had cheated; there was no way shevchenko was leaving milan so early in the game! heheheh:D
it's alright, you're still a rookie, but TRUST me it's much more fun when you make it to the top with your team, you actually making transfers that are possible....... plus having too many stars brings conflict - many feel neglected!
winning without cheating is soooo much sweeter man!

soccer fanatic
01-15-2003, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by PopA
soccerfanatic, a good defender is isaak okoronkwo from shakhtar donetsk in ukraine, you get him for around 1.7 million pounds, he's EXCELLENT, and i think he'd work well with regilio vrede!


Can`t afford too buy both. :(
I will try him.

ItalianBoy
01-16-2003, 06:38 AM
I am ta my third seaosn with Lecce, and I did not cheat.
I got 9th then 10th and now I am 5th but still good.
I did well in the money.
I got O'Neill which BTW is very good.
I got Coudet and other good players form the boosman ruling.
And man, Now I got a good team hoping maybe not to win the Scudetto but to make it in UEFA.
My team
Weber
Cirillo Gargo Stovini
Coudet Varlamov Estebaranz Baros
O'Neill
Cardetti Jelic.
Also got other good players.

gnlvagosov
01-16-2003, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by PopA
soccerfanatic, a good defender is isaak okoronkwo from shakhtar donetsk in ukraine, you get him for around 1.7 million pounds, he's EXCELLENT, and i think he'd work well with regilio vrede!

and btw gnlvagosov, it was obvious you had cheated; there was no way shevchenko was leaving milan so early in the game! heheheh:D
it's alright, you're still a rookie, but TRUST me it's much more fun when you make it to the top with your team, you actually making transfers that are possible....... plus having too many stars brings conflict - many feel neglected!
winning without cheating is soooo much sweeter man!

it was my first time so i wanted to experiment, anyways I just won the Scudetto, i crashed out of the CL, and then again in the UEFA, and in the Italian Cup, I crashed out.
Sheva was my top scorer with Crespo and Trezeguet second, nearly all of my team got the awards, except the FIFA player of the Year award which went to Ronaldo!:mad:
now it's the wc..what do I do now? how do I do trips to other countries and play friendlies?
thanks in advance:)

PopA
01-16-2003, 07:34 PM
go into first team squad, click on fixtures, click on arrange, and then you can either do a friendly home or away, or a tour to another country.....
that's about it!

gnlvagosov
01-16-2003, 07:47 PM
thanks!:D
Im into my second season, im currently 13th in the league!:mad:
but im doing quite well in Europe. What formation should I use? and the tactics? any help:confused:

PopA
01-16-2003, 11:03 PM
www.thedugout.net
lots of player tips, great formations, and just general info on the championship manager series, as well as downloads (skins, etc)
for an update go to www.sigames.com, but those are all more than 10 mb

Looney
01-17-2003, 12:18 PM
Well I use my customised 3-4-1-2 formation. What the individual orders are is a secret..... :D But I've used that formation to win 3 consecutive European Cups, 4 straight Scudetti, the World Cup and an UEFA Cup and still going strong!

nerazzuri
01-17-2003, 12:31 PM
do u guys play cm on PC or x-box

and what's new on cm02/03

nerazzuri
01-17-2003, 12:47 PM
holy sh*t i didn't know that cm4 was coming out in feb. and about cm01/02 i wanna play too,and i am going inter, but how do we play online though:confused:

gnlvagosov
01-17-2003, 04:07 PM
can we coach a national team? how?

PopA
01-17-2003, 07:37 PM
either adding a new manager and taking over the nt, or if he gets fired and you have the nationality (usually), just apply....... maybe you'll get

cm 02/03 is only for xbox, and it has updated rosters and a few corrections from cm 01/02 on xbox...... i play cm on my pc

gnlvagosov
01-18-2003, 10:57 AM
thanks for the info,
btw my best buys untill now are Postiga and Deco, they are amazing! I bought Adriano but he doesn't seem to do good in my team.

Looney
01-18-2003, 12:11 PM
BTW, don't buy players purely for their real world fame, unless you have an uber tough team to being with. Don't expect to sign (in theory) Micheal Owen and expect him to score 20+ goals every season......

PopA
01-18-2003, 01:44 PM
i don't, but my little brother does....... wastes money in my opinion

gnlvagosov
01-18-2003, 05:13 PM
i did it aswell, at the start of the season...i wasted all my money and still I can't win many games, im second in the league with one match to play and Milan is first.. and guess what I play Milan next... im in the final or the CL with guess who? ATALANTA? (how the hell did they get there I don't know...)
any more help?:D

ItalianBoy
01-19-2003, 03:49 AM
About the NT.
You have to have done well for a long while before getting ther.
I do not think you can coach it form the start.
you can apply to all NT BTW.
Also, I agree Dont get players by their names.
I got Chiesa and man! I sold him so I made more money but he sucked! And guess what? in the other teams he is alwasy the top scorer.
Funny.
I have a hella of a good team but still cant win.
I am usually good but now it seems weird that I cant win.
I use 4132 but still cant win with the likes of baros, Cardetti, Jelic Okornkwo, etc etc etc.

Yacoob
01-19-2003, 09:01 AM
Chiesa have done pretty good for me everytime I played him but not enough to convince me not to sell him. :silly:

But I don't agree with the famous players thing, my cousin ALWAYS buy famous players and he's doing very good most of the time.

Me, I go for the players brought by scouts or those I find by personal searches, as I usually manage teams with low money resources so I can't buy the big players. :(

Zek
01-19-2003, 11:26 AM
here the moment to write all I've got for the CM!

introduced myself to this game just in September and ohhhhhh...

I started with Inter and since I don't like cheating I was fired in January when I was 7th in Seria A, out of UEFA and Italy Cup and had a nice team... That was upsetting and strange to me...

So I went for another try. Signed Taribo West (personal preference), Desaily and Hasselbaink. Did not know much about the game so did not know well what to do and whom to buy. However, Vieri with all his greatness was always unhappy influencing the rest of the team, Ronaldo was so fragile that he was almost useless. Emre was homesick, hasselbaink sucked...

anyway with all this shit happening playing 442 ended up 6 or 7 th dont remember exactly now. but I was 3rd sometimes. In a cup was lucky enough to get to finals where lazio destroyed me.

so the next season the board wanted CL place from me. OK. I managed to sell Vieri to Real for 60mln (hate unhappy players...) and I've also sold my major asset Seedorf to real for guess what 100mln $!!! Hasselbaink was out too... instead got Raul from Real for just 40 mln, Cannavaro almost for free, Candela from Roma's bench and etc.
so that I won everything except for the italian league cup. went even further got Trezeguet and Di Vaio sold Recoba, materazzi, sergio consesaion and etc.

that was the best season played with 64 games without losing in Seria playing 2D-4DM-1M-1AM-2S

the players I will advice to buy are the ones with good flair. for those playing with weak teams: Bartosz Karwan from Poland, Pjanovic from Jugoslavia, Nigmatullin from Russia (brilliant keeper one of the best in the world), Mido from Ajax, Sebastian Pluta from Poland, Maxi Lopez from Argentine... and HOLOVKO from Ukraine is very good defender. I did it with Fiorentina and won title once and UEFA cup too.
send your scouts to eastern europe and you'll get good players for reasonable price! and what's also important they will never demand high salaries :D

cheers

PS: I was sacked in 2007 by Moratti on a day I won Continental cup because I sent an ultimatum on stadium expansion just after the game. he thanked me for winning 2 UEFA cups, 3 italy supercups, 3 euro supercups, 3 continental cups, 3 CL cups, 4 or 5 championships, 2 confederation cups and etc. but I've never won Italian Cup :( (my first squad tend to lose perugia 5:0 :(

anyway I love this game even more after being sacked for outbursts...

soccer fanatic
01-19-2003, 11:44 AM
The game is great, as manager of Vitesse I only bought Van Hoogdalem and am pushing for a Euro qualification spot in the league (top 5) and am in the UEFA CUP with a tie against Parma.

I loaned Kevin Hofland and Wamberto from PSV and Ajax. :cool:

Hofland is playing great. :)
I also made an offer too loan Gudjohnson of Chelsea, but on the last minute he refused. If he keep performing well he might still want too come to Vitesse for the last few months. :)

I`m short on strikers and cash. Very realistic game.

Already got big offers for some players. Refused them ofcourse. :cool:

I did lose 4-2 againsat De Graafschap. :(

Looney
01-19-2003, 11:51 AM
One thing I've noticed tho is that Italian chairman's in the game is very patient. Vialli's been coaching Juventus for 4 years now and the highest he's ever finished is 4th..... he hasn't even had an insecure job yet!

Thing about the NT, if you've won an European trophy recently and are in the top 10 rankings of world managers, you're a shoo-in. if not, try to be in the top 5 of your nation.

Oh and Chivu and Hofland in the same defense? Smoking...... :D Add to that one Alessandro Nesta and voila! Cost me 50 million pounds and probably a league title the year before to get those two, but now I haven't lost a trophy in 2 years.....

gnlvagosov
01-19-2003, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by Looney
Well I use my customised 3-4-1-2 formation. What the individual orders are is a secret..... :D But I've used that formation to win 3 consecutive European Cups, 4 straight Scudetti, the World Cup and an UEFA Cup and still going strong!

Looney!!!!!!!!!! your a master!
with this formation i'v won the CL, the Super Cup, the CL super Cup, the Scudetto:D :evil:
and I won the confederations cup for Italy! and I qualified for the Euro, 8 games, 8 wins, 27 goals!, NO GOALS against me:D

looney:arrow: Marcello Lippi!:evil:

Looney
01-19-2003, 01:46 PM
Please...... that's Fabio Capello!

gnlvagosov
01-19-2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Looney
Please...... that's Fabio Capello!

err then you suck!;)

soccer fanatic
01-19-2003, 04:07 PM
Perhaps it would be a nice idea if we would compete too eachother in this way:

We all choose the same team.
Cheating isn`t allowed.
We play for three years (in the game ofcourse)
We vote on which team too play with.

After three seasons we compare who got the best results and what squads everybody ended up with.

soccer fanatic
01-19-2003, 04:09 PM
BTW, Vitesse just sacked me. :D
I lost too Parema and even though I was a match away from
EC qualification (Amstel Cup final, PSV would have been the opposition who were certain of EC football) they sacked me.

Ungratefull idiots. :)

gnlvagosov
01-19-2003, 04:16 PM
how do we know if someone is saying the truth?

soccer fanatic
01-19-2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by gnlvagosov
how do we know if someone is saying the truth?

We can`t, we have too trust in eachothers honesty.

It is more for fun than competition ofcourse, you would have too be a real loser if you would want too cheat, don`t you think?

Besides, if it will be Port Vale we decide too manage (probably not) and someone claims he woin the CL and has a team consisting of Beckham, Totti, Vieira and Kluivert, I will get suspicious. :D

Juan
01-19-2003, 05:35 PM
Im playing with Blackburn now. After two seasons of some cheating I have stopped them, and im doing very good (even better than with the cheats). In early February, Im fighthing for the Premiership title, currently placed second four points below ManU (although they have a game less), and im about to meet Fenerbahce in the 4th round of the UEFA Cup. My formation? A simple 4-4-2, although I change it for a 4-5-1 against stronger rivals.

Some weird stuff has happened then. My first season in, Aston Villa and West Ham were relegated. Villa managed inmediate promotion, but West Ham hasn´t left Division One yet (algthough they are leading it right now, with a considerable margin). 02/03 season was even stranger, with Tottenham dropping to the First Division (and, as of now, they show no signs of returning to the Premiership). Also notable has been Wigan Athletic, with an almost instantanoeus rise from Division Two to the Premiership, where they are playing now (and with some good chances for survival).

My buys? I reccomend looking for players with high determination attributes (15 or higher). I swooped Michael Bridges from Leeds, and he has become my top goalscorer, leading the Premiership with 28 goals in 02/03. I´ve had good times with John Curtis and Gareth Barry in the back, both of them earning consistent England call-ups. Right now, my top transfer objective is to buy a good ballwinner. Any reccomendations there?

soccer fanatic
01-19-2003, 05:47 PM
A ballwinner on what position, defense, midfield or attack?

Juan
01-19-2003, 06:21 PM
In the Midfield. I normally use Garry Flitcroft there, but he´s in the final year of his contract and doesn´t want to renew.

soccer fanatic
01-19-2003, 11:28 PM
And how much can he cost?

ItalianBoy
01-19-2003, 11:56 PM
Now its seems the other way around.
I am winning pretty well. Its all good. told you I was good! lol.
Well I sold Chiesa cuz I am in 2004 and he is 33. He is still good, but I got him for 9 billion liras and sold him for 12.
So its was a good deal.
Plus I still have the likes of Mido Baros Mutu, etc.
I got a kick ass team and hopefully I am going to win somethign this season on.
3412 works well with some teams. With others it sucks.
I use that one or the 4132.

soccer fanatic
01-20-2003, 12:08 AM
Ita boy, how about the game I suggested, would you be in?

gnlvagosov
01-20-2003, 09:27 AM
If you want a guarantee of Shevchenko scoring, then pair him up with Del Piero, every match Shev has scored a goal for me when DP is with him, when DP got injured, I didn't win for 5-6 matches, and Shev didn't score a single goal, I paired him up with Crespo, Salas, Trezeguet and nothing... when DP was back from Injury, and I paired him Shev, guess what? Shev starts scoring again! im out of the Copa Italia, Into the second stage of the CL, and now 2nd in the league, 1 point behind guess who? PERUGIA!!! :mad:

anyways if you want a good player i'll advise you to get Deco from Porto, he's the best.

for the game soccer fanatic suggested, im in...:D