Mancini's TACTICAL Up's & Down's

[Sebastian]

.....i dont know why i didnt thought about this before........the scudetto thread is strictly about the scudetto we discuss about all the players but coments about CUPER are rearity.......
we have a transfer thread...c.league...so it's pretty usefull to have one thread dedicated for CUPER......were we'll criticise and support his decisions.....he's a brilliant coach but....soetimes he makes some wrird decisions........and we can thrash his ass or support his solutions.....afcorse if it's fine by you......:smoking:.....

[Zek]

good point elcino, but shall we make it sticky? you know I don't like too many stikys let's see how the whole thing will develop ;)

Cuper's squad rotation system is great and it's very difficult to have a good rotation there. So I understand him, sometimes he has ups and downs but look how many coaches can do a good rotation?
Alex Ferguson is the one I know.:evil:

[Sebastian]

......how it will evolve?????
....:D.....i dont know.......if you want to develop in a satisfactorial manner......than make it sticky......you know i want the INTER forum to dictate some tempo in the board.....when i gave the idea for the SCUDETTO and the C.LEAGUE threads i saw that in a lot of forums they were still using those....fr'instance ROMA-LAZIO concept...but then they started to use this.....:p.......i think that there must be a threa strictly about TACTICS....and tactics depends from the coach......i want to look back in the future and see all those CUPER'S stuff....good and bad......beside the tactics this is a thread fro CUPER........so i dont see what's wrong with making it sticky.......there will be four threads in the sticky dimension......and i dont see a reason why people shouldnt discuss about these things......:confused:......

[doz]

I've just stuck this thread, i think it's a very good idea. Anyway with this there is only 4 stickies and that's not too many. We can give this thread a go and see how it evolves.

[Zek]

ok :evil:

just push the tempo :D

we're doing so many things which then become common in the board. Great to see this and let's push the tempo.

got no objections ;)

take care friends :smoking:

[nerazzuri]

:cool: thread

i dont have anything in mind yet but i will soon;)

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

hmmmmmmm ... since we're waiting for for our next match to start up this thread about Cuper ..... let's see who do u guys think was the worst and best game run by Cuper this season ?

Worst : Lyon first leg.

Best : Parma

[ayt]

worst: perugia can't get any worse than 4-1 was it?

best: Ajax away (2-1 was it?)

[nerazzuri]

i agree with ayt

the best was: ajax 1-2

worst: perugia 4-1

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

oh boy ... i totally forgot about Perugia's game .... i guess my mind is still refusing to believe that :silly:

[Slavenik]

Good thread, this will work pretty good after the Reggina match. Our worst game was defenetly against Perugia. But do you remember Lazio-Inter. The first half was the worst of the season while the second was the best.

[nismo]

True that Slavenik
Best performance: 2nd half vs Lazio (3-3)
Worst: Lyon, home leg, I wanted to :bloody: myself. Carriere, Anderson, and Govou......they murdered us.......on our own turf

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by Slavenik
Good thread, this will work pretty good after the Reggina match. Our worst game was defenetly against Perugia. But do you remember Lazio-Inter. The first half was the worst of the season while the second was the best.

that was exsacly what i was going to say.......LAZIO vs INTER but last season....:D........what an awfull tactic........where the hell was SEEDORF????our best mid fielder????
........i was staring like a COW in the tv......:confused:....while SEEDORF was cursing his mother for joining INTER.......:rolleyes:.....
i wanned to find CUPER and shout at him for a whole day.......:bloody:......
and im gonna shout now...................YOU STUPID IMBECIL........................................you damn MORON...................why the hell did he played with GRESKO insted of SERENA????who played a brilliant match against ROMA????
...............you RETARD.......................

:D........ok enough yelling.......:silly:.....it's just that this place as the right one for that...........:smoking:.........and yeah this season match against LAZIO was terrible......:rolleyes:.......CRESPO and BOBO were like two cutt off fingers.....they couldnt even see the ball....cos they're finishers.......it's diferent with a strikers liuke RONALDO and HENRY........they can do it all by them selfs....but BOBO and CRESPO????
...:rolleyes:....and right after RECOBA was inserted....we scored with a pass from him to CRESPO........

[Slavenik]

Elcino, how fine Adriano is:angel: He is everything, a great finisher, extraordinary dribbling skills, VERY VERY powerfull shot, good header, good passing skills:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

From next season he must be a starter alongside Bobo:smoking:

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Slavenik


From next season he must be a starter alongside Bobo:smoking:

Nah, he'll be playing for Barca B. Oops, that's in my CM game. :evil: Picked him up on a free.

[Zek]

Originally posted by Slavenik
Elcino, how fine Adriano is:angel: He is everything, a great finisher, extraordinary dribbling skills, VERY VERY powerfull shot, good header, good passing skills:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

From next season he must be a starter alongside Bobo:smoking:

hey hey I better bench Bobo and field Crespo :rolling:

[nismo]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Nah, he'll be playing for Barca B. Oops, that's in my CM game. :evil: Picked him up on a free.
In my one, he was voted Inter Fans Player of the Year in his debut season (01/02)..........then he his head got too big, and he demanded a better contract or else he'd leave:rolleyes:

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by Zek
hey hey I better bench Bobo and field Crespo :rolling:
agreed

[Sebastian]

...oh my goodness....:silly:...:D.......faggot stile is quite fashionable these days doesnt it nerazzuri???????
......:ronaldo:.......

AZULGRANA....dont you think it's better to insist on some world class defender than dreaming about strikers????......:p........

ADRIANO is allready better than CRESPO and even BOBO........i would kill for a glimpse in the next season forward tactics.....:evil:......will ADRIANO play more than expected?????
im sure he will.....BOBO and CRESPO will have some grueling competition....the tiughest in the world if you ask me....:smoking:.......we will have the best striker in the world.....

[nerazzuri]

crespo - adriano is better

2 south americans:evil:

[ayt]

i agree with most of you...
but what do we do with vieri.. i say sell him at the end of the season.. he'll be 30.. and we can get still a very good price for him...
adriano-crespo would be awesome.. becuase they are verstatile strikers.. but again we dun have a creator... same problem again... unless we play recoba out on the left....

however, selling vieri would be risky as well.. that leaves only ventola, kallon and martins covering the bench... not exactly a frightening sight if you know what i mean....

[nerazzuri]

i agree, sell bobo at the end of the season while he's still worth good $$... rather than later when he's all:dead:

[Sebastian]

....seling BOBO would be extremely unwise.......next season will be the three of them so they will have to fight for a place in the atack.....i do agree that CRESPO and ADRIANO will compose a damn terifying forward...but hey the diference between BOBO and CRESPO isnt that big...they're still finishers with not that cool dribling techniques like ADRIANO....swe should wait and see who ever fail to win a place next season the next one will be probably sold........but there will be some huge rivality....it's evident that they'll be here next season......
on the other hand.......BOBO...CRESPO and ADRIANO can play together rotating for the bouth competitions......so i wouldnt isnsist on selling any one from them.......BOBO is MORRATI's favorite so.......:D.......time will tell.......:smoking:....anyway there will be some sweet problems for CUPER.......

[nerazzuri]

i do agree with u eLcino, but as time goes by, bobo would get..... well u know

[Sebastian]

.....everyone has to fade away....but lets hope there will be some ATOMES left in him......such a stron ass kicker wont surrender that easily.....

[Slavenik]

Bobo - championship
Crespo - CL

Now i have been thinking how unlucky Crespo is. This injurie will prevent him from playing few CL maybe more than just a few, and he had such a good chance to score lots more:( Hope he doesnt saty out for very long.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
i agree, sell bobo at the end of the season while he's still worth good $$... rather than later when he's all:dead:

Stay off the drugs mate, that shit'll kill ya.

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Stay off the drugs mate, that shit'll kill ya.
thanks for the advice:)

[ilcapitano]

Yes, this makes sense :rolleyes:
Let's go and sell our best goal scorer. Just seventeen goals in fourteen games tells us that he is getting old and useless.
Let's sell him back to Juventus, because we don't really need goals that much...we just need dribbling.
***king brilliant.

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

Originally posted by ilcapitano
Yes, this makes sense :rolleyes:
Let's go and sell our best goal scorer. Just seventeen goals in fourteen games tells us that he is getting old and useless.
Let's sell him back to Juventus, because we don't really need goals that much...we just need dribbling.
***king brilliant.

:thumbsup:

[Slavenik]

Selling vieri is scenceless.

Maybe some of you might not understand that there are players that their last push is Inter. The likes of Javier, Toldo, DiBi, Bobo and maybe some few more. It means they will stay till the end of their playing days, or maybe Javier, when he is 35 will move to ARG to finish his career there if he wants. Those players aint for sale. Those will stay with us. THOSE WONT LEAVE.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by ilcapitano
Yes, this makes sense :rolleyes:
Let's go and sell our best goal scorer. Just seventeen goals in fourteen games tells us that he is getting old and useless.
Let's sell him back to Juventus, because we don't really need goals that much...we just need dribbling.
***king brilliant.

No shit. Let's sell Vieri and bring in Ronaldinho. He can dribble us to a Scudetto. :rolleyes:

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by Slavenik
Bobo - championship
Crespo - CL

Now i have been thinking how unlucky Crespo is. This injurie will prevent him from playing few CL maybe more than just a few, and he had such a good chance to score lots more:( Hope he doesnt saty out for very long.

he started to RUN....so he'll be back lot sooner than expected.....:smoking:.......i told ya.....;).......

[ayt]

yeah good one elcino.. how long has ventola being running you tell me???
has he played a minute yet?

[Hizbollah]

I think what Inter needs the most is a playmaker in the Central Midfield. Sometimes their game lacks of creativity, playing with 2 defensive Midfielders in the Central can cause some problems in the offense. I don't think Morpheo or Dalmat are the right player to direct Inter's game or play beind the strikers, a player like Aimar, Rui Costa or Ronaldinho for example would be good solutions, switching Seedorf for Coco was a big mistake nothing more to say about that.

[Slavenik]

ayt, Ventola and Crespo aint realy the same. Ventola started running, how long, like 50 days after he god injured, while Crespo, its about 20 days. I know that he wont be back in at leaset for 30 days, but he will be back:evil:

[Zek]

Originally posted by Slavenik
Selling vieri is scenceless.

Maybe some of you might not understand that there are players that their last push is Inter. The likes of Javier, Toldo, DiBi, Bobo and maybe some few more. It means they will stay till the end of their playing days, or maybe Javier, when he is 35 will move to ARG to finish his career there if he wants. Those players aint for sale. Those will stay with us. THOSE WONT LEAVE.

we're not in the market shopping and bargaining, there're some important values like team spirit, and the spirit of our team even though it's a strange spirit but it's with Vieri, DiBi, Javier and Toldo!

we need playmaker to assist Emre, I even will go for Basturk maybe and no one else, Adriano would not do harm, but he's no better than Crespo and Vieri is just scoring and scoring, so it's not wise to throw stones on him.

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by Hizbollah
I think what Inter needs the most is a playmaker in the Central Midfield. Sometimes their game lacks of creativity, playing with 2 defensive Midfielders in the Central can cause some problems in the offense. I don't think Morpheo or Dalmat are the right player to direct Inter's game or play beind the strikers, a player like Aimar, Rui Costa or Ronaldinho for example would be good solutions, switching Seedorf for Coco was a big mistake nothing more to say about that.
what r u talking about?
emre isn't built to be a defensive mid, he's our creative mid, dalmat doesn't even get a chance anymore.

and i'm happy with our current squad, but i've always been saying that inter needs gaucho
okan - gaucho - emre - recoba
crespo - bobo

switching seedorf for coco was a big mistake?
there u go again, u dont know what u're saying dont ya

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
and i'm happy with our current squad, but i've always been saying that inter needs gaucho
okan - gaucho - emre - recoba
crespo - bobo


Too attacking maybe...I think there's nothing wrong with our current CM's. Zanetti - Emre partnership is very well balanced, considering his long injury absence, Cristiano has played very well.
Let's just hope Emre's injury yesterday wasn't anything serious - there's still no news about how long he will be out.
I agree that Okan has been impressive on the right...maybe he can play in Emre's position?

[Sebastian]

BOBO'S inmjury isnt serious at all......+ he was rulled out with the friendly match with his national....:smoking:.......
EMRE could miss the game against CHIEVO but i doubt that he'll be out.....KALLON injury worries me.....he felt pain again AND HE MIGHT renewed his old injury.........

this game can be characterised as a CUPER up's....:D.....although i prefered DALMAT on the right...but OKAN wasnt bad at all.......;).......
REGINA doesnt need a strong tactical wisdom....but CHIVO will decide weather we're TACTICLY refined or not.....:evil:......

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by ilcapitano
Too attacking maybe...I think there's nothing wrong with our current CM's. Zanetti - Emre partnership is very well balanced, considering his long injury absence, Cristiano has played very well.
Let's just hope Emre's injury yesterday wasn't anything serious - there's still no news about how long he will be out.
I agree that Okan has been impressive on the right...maybe he can play in Emre's position?
yeah i thought it too attacking but hey, we've got one of the worlds best defender;)

okan plays better on the right, how bout this mid
okan - dalmat - cristiano - recoba

[ilcapitano]

That would be just fine if Dalmat started playing some football.
It might be unwise to use him as starter against Chievo...that will be a tough game.

[nerazzuri]

we still gotta give him a chance. unlike sergio, i've lost count how many chances we've given him:rolleyes:

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

when we played Chievo this season we used the 3412 formation for the first time ..... it wasn't a big success but i remember Dalmat being the AM ... he was quite good . i hope he can repeat that again ... if Emre is out .

[Sebastian]

DALMAT performed damn good last year...he scored a brilliant goal......we must use him this time......i dont know weather he'll BE A starter....but the kid must play...........

[Hizbollah]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
what r u talking about?
emre isn't built to be a defensive mid, he's our creative mid, dalmat doesn't even get a chance anymore.


switching seedorf for coco was a big mistake?
there u go again, u dont know what u're saying dont ya It's you that doesn't know what you're saying. Emre is more a Defensive Midfielder than a playmaker, he was that at Galatasaray and same at Inter, do a research.
Real playmakers are for example: Aimar, Zidane, Costa and Seedorf. And switching Seedorf for Coco WAS a mistake, he's in a very good form at Milan in the league and also CL, but what has Coco done much for Inter this season? Statistics don't lie, do your homework.

[nerazzuri]

seedorf wanted to leave
and who were we gonna buy for our LB, keep GRESKO

and i never said emre was a playmaker, there's a difference between creating and playmaker

[Hizbollah]

Morpheo is Inter's playmaker when he's lined up, Emre is a Defensive Midfielder who can create goal chances and is stronger at attacking than Almeyda for example.

[smartbomb]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
crespo - adriano is better

2 south americans:evil:

Argentinan + Brazilian = Not a good idea ;) of course there are exceptions, like... hmm... :confused:

[Slavenik]

Hey, Seedorf didnt want to leave, i even remember that he tried to stop the transfer to AC. He wanted to stay with us.

[ayt]

***k seedorf.. we don't need lazy players like him..
he was overpaid and overrated.. i'm glad he left...
he produced one good match followed by 10 bad ones...

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by Slavenik
Hey, Seedorf didnt want to leave, i even remember that he tried to stop the transfer to AC. He wanted to stay with us.
seedorf wanted to leave cos of cuper
he was one of my fav player at inter last season

[nismo]

Originally posted by Hizbollah
It's you that doesn't know what you're saying. Emre is more a Defensive Midfielder than a playmaker, he was that at Galatasaray and same at Inter, do a research.
Real playmakers are for example: Aimar, Zidane, Costa and Seedorf. And switching Seedorf for Coco WAS a mistake, he's in a very good form at Milan in the league and also CL, but what has Coco done much for Inter this season? Statistics don't lie, do your homework.
He's more at attacking than defending the backline.
Real playmakers are also Gazza, Guardiola, Veron, Ballack and...........Emre :eek:
He might've been a DM at Gala, I can't comment, because I hardly knew him when he was in Turkey, but for Inter, he's definitely our creative midfield maestro. He does his fair share of defensive duties like everyone else, but it's an insult to Emre to call him a defensive midfielder, when from watching the games, he's better at maintaining possession and distributing the passes for our forwards.
And you're right, the statisitics don't lie, Emre completes more passes and has fewer tackles, than most defensive midfielders in Europe. :)
But I agree with Seedorf, letting him go for Coco wasn't a good swap, I'd rather have him on LW than Recoba, but we were desperate for a LB after last season scandalous performances by a number of players (mainly Gresko) at LB.

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by ayt
he produced one good match followed by 10 bad ones...
cos of cuper....... look at him NOW!, with ancelotti:mad:

[Hizbollah]

nismo, again Emre is NO playmaker. At Galatasaray, Hadgi and Sas were playmakers while Emre played as a defensive midfielder and in the Turkey NT, Sas and Bastürk played the creative role in the midfield. I already pointed out that he's a very attacking midfielder alike Ballack who played as a defensive midfielder as well last season for Leverkusen but scored loads of goals. Anyway, Emre is no playmaker. At Inter, it's Morpheo and Dalmat (if he plays) who act as playmakers.

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
cos of cuper....... look at him NOW!, with ancelotti:mad:

he's a world class player....but he is damn inconsistent......he can only shine if you insert him after 2-3 games sitting on the bench......if he was arround we would've newer discovered EMRE.........

[Slavenik]

Its true that if Seedorf was arround, Emre wasnt going to explode like he did.

Seedorf knows to be outstanding, remember Juventus. But as Elcino mentioned, very incosistent too. He sihined, and then sleeped.

[Sebastian]

.......that's obvious........he makes toomany mistakes while dribling........but we cant deni the fact that he's damn cool when he's in the MOOD.........:smoking:.........he's in the unMOOD most of the time....and that makes him incosistent.......it's weird you know......he plays all the time and he rearly performs in aworld class level............SERGINHO even got his place but he injured......while he was lot more useful than SEEDORF.........

[Zek]

Originally posted by Hizbollah
nismo, again Emre is NO playmaker. At Galatasaray, Hadgi and Sas were playmakers while Emre played as a defensive midfielder and in the Turkey NT, Sas and Bastürk played the creative role in the midfield. I already pointed out that he's a very attacking midfielder alike Ballack who played as a defensive midfielder as well last season for Leverkusen but scored loads of goals. Anyway, Emre is no playmaker. At Inter, it's Morpheo and Dalmat (if he plays) who act as playmakers.

I would not agree with you. Emre is real playmaker and he was a playmaker in Turkish NT too along with Basturk! Basturk is a bit defensive minded but Emre is not an attacking midfielder neither he's a defensive one. He's just a midfielder like Veron for instance.

In Inter neither Morfeo nor Dalmat are playmakers.
In Turkish NT Sas can't be playmaker because he gets the ball already in attack and the one who choses to pass to Sas or to Mansiz or to any other attack group players is the playmaker!

Playmaker plays in midfield not in attack with some exceptional examples of Rivaldo and Aimar (aimar is also midfielder by the way)

[nismo]

Originally posted by Zek
I would not agree with you. Emre is real playmaker and he was a playmaker in Turkish NT too along with Basturk! Basturk is a bit defensive minded but Emre is not an attacking midfielder neither he's a defensive one. He's just a midfielder like Veron for instance.

In Inter neither Morfeo nor Dalmat are playmakers.
In Turkish NT Sas can't be playmaker because he gets the ball already in attack and the one who choses to pass to Sas or to Mansiz or to any other attack group players is the playmaker!

Playmaker plays in midfield not in attack with some exceptional examples of Rivaldo and Aimar (aimar is also midfielder by the way)
That's what I'm trying to explain to Hizbollah as well. Emre is in the same ranks as Guardiola and Veron, central midfielders who can create, as well as perform defensive duties if needs be. Roy Keane, Vieira, Davids, and Emre just don't go into the same sentence. Emre can produce a moment of magic, while the aforementioned are ball winners, and midfield machines. Cuper's not stupid enough to put a person of Emre's physique as a defensive player in midfield, we all know Emre is better at going forward than backwards in midfield.

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by Zek

Playmaker plays in midfield not in attack with some exceptional examples of Rivaldo and Aimar (aimar is also midfielder by the way)
agreed:thumbsup:

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

lets settle the case and go for a "defensive playmaker" :rolleyes: :D

[Hizbollah]

Zek and nismo, you guys need to do a research. Emre is NO playmaker in the Turkish NT, Basturk and Sas played the creative role behind 1 striker which was Sukur (WC). Basturk is a learned playmaker, not only in the NT, but also at Leverkusen. And at Galatasaray, Hadgi and Sas acted (Sas still does) as playmakers.
What Guardiola concerns, he's a defensive Midfielder as well but can go forward and create goalchances (Barca and Roma) alike Emre who is a versatile player who's role can be compared with Roberto Carlos who is a LB that always goes forward and attacks but that doesn't make him a LM (except when a 3-5-2 system is beeing played). He's still a LB. And Morpheo plays the offensive part in Inter's Midfield when he's lined up and Dalmat did that the last season. Now lets end this discussion once and for all.

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

what i think we need now is some word of wisdom from our friend Dr. Moon-Star :D :silly:

[ilcapitano]

Oh man, what kind of argument is this?
Why isn't it possible, that Emre was a DM for Galatasaray and Turkey, BUT a playmaker for Inter.
Is there something incomprehensible in that?
The games I've seen this season, Emre has distributed the ball much more than Morfeo.

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by InTeR_FaNaTiC
what i think we need now is some word of wisdom from our friend Dr. Moon-Star :D :silly:
damn right:)

[nismo]

Originally posted by Hizbollah
Zek and nismo, you guys need to do a research. Emre is NO playmaker in the Turkish NT, Basturk and Sas played the creative role behind 1 striker which was Sukur (WC). Basturk is a learned playmaker, not only in the NT, but also at Leverkusen. And at Galatasaray, Hadgi and Sas acted (Sas still does) as playmakers.
What Guardiola concerns, he's a defensive Midfielder as well but can go forward and create goalchances (Barca and Roma) alike Emre who is a versatile player who's role can be compared with Roberto Carlos who is a LB that always goes forward and attacks but that doesn't make him a LM (except when a 3-5-2 system is beeing played). He's still a LB. And Morpheo plays the offensive part in Inter's Midfield when he's lined up and Dalmat did that the last season. Now lets end this discussion once and for all.
Why didn't you just say that in the beginning? Could've avoided a lot of debate.

I agree with you there, about Emre being versatile, and able to defend and creating chances. Look at it this way, AC Milan use Pirlo in front of defence, would you call him a defensive midfielder,? No, but his position there would suggest it. That's how I see Emre, but on a higher level of versatility than Pirlo.

[ayt]

emre is neither... he isn't really a DM nor is he really a playmaker
he is just a central midfielder.. like frank lampard of chelsea.
They help out in defence if needed... and provide support when going forward... these are very versatile players who aren't restricted by limitations (i.e defensive mids normally just defend).

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by InTeR_FaNaTiC
what i think we need now is some word of wisdom from our friend Dr. Moon-Star :D :silly:

......:confused:.......and who's that?????

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

Originally posted by eLcino
......:confused:.......and who's that?????

WSB Correspondent in Turkey .. Moon-Star :silly:

didn't you know that ? :p

[Zek]

shit happens again.

tactically we're amazingly poor and boring. Barca has beaten us tactically and we were unable to break their defence cause we did not even try to do that in a way top class team shall do.

I am not sure that Mr. Cuper's attacking ideas go beyond the scope of crosses for Vieri's headers. Most of the european squads are well defending against simple crosses and pushy teams which lack creativity or structured attacks like we do now.

[nerazzuri]

it better be 3-0 at the san siro to even it out:silly:

[Sebastian]

........CORDOBA on the left back...beside PASQUALE and aspecially COCO is a rediculous solution........:mad2:......and this idiot RECOBA..........i cant believe how ridiculously stupid he beahved........:confused:.........if it was the elimination than fine.......but hey there's another match...........+at SAN SIRO...........an IDIOT.........
the TACTICS were a complete failure.......

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by eLcino
the TACTICS were a complete failure.......
a rare site:silly:

[Sebastian]

......i cant understand what happened..........we arent weak in the defense.........on paper INTER defense is light years ahead from theirs..........perhaps we underastimated them.......
the only tactical screw up was CORDOBA on the left........you cant experimenmt on NOU CAMP pal.....:rolleyes:..........maybe CORDOBA played good against CHIEVO............but he should've play alongside CANNAVARO and COCO on the left.......i hope CUPER faced his mistakes........why playing CORDOBA on the left bacjk......when we had two strict left backs??????????????......:confused:............
with CORDOBA on the left.......the offansive stile of plasy suffers.......cos PASQUALE and aspecially COCO are really kickin some ass in the offense........

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by eLcino
you cant experimenmt on NOU CAMP pal.....:rolleyes:..........
no shit!

[Moon-Star]

:D

guys,emre can play in all position in midfield without being a right winger and can success in each of them very well....but the positision he is best at;CM....he and okan are the warriors.they can run all they because of their height.

in his first years at gala a squad,hagi was the playmaker of Gala so he was close to defense.a DM
after 1-2 years AND improving his football,now he was a CM (making press for hagi to organize the play...
but when hagi gets very old,started not to run anymore,emre takes his place as a playmaker.and he improved his skill also.
when a man was needed in left-winger pos. he played there.

in national team he became the playmaker(BASTURK wdidt get used to team in that time)and tugay was DM then.
he couldnt do wll as a Dm in Turkiye Nt.thats why gunes put him as a playmaker....

after yýldýray get used to team,emre takes the CM role.and Yýldýray is our playmaker.
Hasan Sas is our RW and attacking MF.he plays close to forward.
ilhan started to play new......

our tactic in Nt was 4-5-1 ....Hakan in forward and hasan who plays close to help him.
now hakan doesnt play and our tactic is 4-4-2.nihat-ilhan duo...
yýldýray is our playmaker.....
if inter wants to get a super-real LW they should get OKAN KOC quickly:thumbsup:

[Sebastian]

........i understand how proud the TURKISH nation is with EMRE...........he's a true genious........+ hes one of my favorites......i newer even dreamed that he'll develop and evolve in this curent ass kicker......

[nerazzuri]

thanks for the news flash moon-star

[Moon-Star]

Originally posted by eLcino
........i understand how proud the TURKISH nation is with EMRE

:rolleyes:
hey ,you are wrong.. Turkish.football fans are proud ofhim because of his play...and girls care about his handsomelity more:D

not as much as you think.he is NOT a national hero!!!
and it is very normal as a player who plays for Turkiye nT!

P.S:i may make a mistake with saying emre is best at CM.
many people says he is best as a playmaker.......
it is very difficult to say he is better at play maker or betttr at cm.
it was just my opinion.....anyways he can do his best as a cm or playmaker

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by eLcino
i newer even dreamed that he'll develop and evolve in this curent ass kicker......
i did.... i just never knew he'll do it this fast:D

[Moon-Star]

here,a very serious newspaper has written that Emre has met with a brazilian model in milano...and brazilian girl was imreseed of him.
you know milano is one of the capital city of fashion.:smoking:


not at all nerazzuri.......
but why did u say DAMN RIGHT when i was called :(

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

Originally posted by Moon-Star
here,a very serious newspaper has written that Emre has met with a brazilian model in milano...and brazilian girl was imreseed of him.
you know milano is one of the capital city of fashion.:smoking:

what is it with Nerazzuri's and Brizilian models !? :evil: :cool:

[Sebastian]

passion perhaps?????
......:ronaldo:.........

[Zek]

thanks Moon-Star for your info the only comment I would like to mention is Emre being playmaker together with Yildiray! That's one of the secrets of the Turkish NT, you've got 2 playmakers what means you're fast in attack, you've got more options in attack and you've got more chances to survive if one of your playmakers is well marked by opposition.

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by Moon-Star
here,a very serious newspaper has written that Emre has met with a brazilian model in milano...and brazilian girl was imreseed of him.
you know milano is one of the capital city of fashion.:smoking:


not at all nerazzuri.......
but why did u say DAMN RIGHT when i was called :(
cos nismo and someone was having an argument bout emre and the position of the turkish NT and then inter_fanatic
what i think we need now is some word of wisdom from our friend Dr. Moon-Star
and i said damn right cos i agreed with him

[Musiq]

Whoaaaaaaa!!

Stop placing Emre in a particular position already - the guy's just 22 - he can play in any position he wants to in midfield. Like Okan once said "He can even partner Bobo in strike" !

Okay, so maybe that last is a little far fetched, but still.

But I can't criticize Cuper's tactics of placing Cordoba out left. He's the fastest player in the world - and 26 is not exactly too late to change styles, is it !! ;)

The only problem is with a cock like Gamarra in defence, that's what'll happen. 3-0 or worse.

But:

J Zanetti -------- Matrix---- Cannavaro----------Cordoba

That's very tempting!! :cool:

Look, Cordoba can be like a J Zanetti from the left.

[Zek]

oh come one Gamarra wasn't that bad, Canna was he was a complete idiot!

I would rather say Sorondo instead of Canna, the only thing Sorondo misses is getting some experience and confidence, he's one of our future boys :D

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by Musiq
The only problem is with a cock like Gamarra in defence, that's what'll happen. 3-0 or worse.
gama is a cock:eek: ..... wtf r u talkin about
every dog has its day

[Sebastian]

every dog has its day"...........this can be easily interpreted as GAMMAra THE IDIOT........COS THE dog IS ONE OF THE MOST STUPID CREATURES THERE IS.......:D.......i know it's methaphoric but hey........you might say.......every CAT has it's day............everyone can vtrain a dof just beat the crap out of him and he'll start even to talk....but the cats are some rough dudes.....:evil:........

CORDOBA is defently not for the left back.......that is weird....there's COCO who's way better than IVAN and even PASQUALE..........he's maybe fast but has no skill at all..wich is essential for a quality full back...........E EXPECT coc ALL THE WAY......:smoking:.....

[Musiq]

Cordoba's never played there before Elcino. Its no wonder that he didn't do too well there. But you're always too impatient.

Didn't you see his cross for Bobo that other game? He does have some skill there. Coco's being way to inconsistant. I'd give him chances, but not against Barca or Juventus. Even Pasquale is better.

In fact, for today's Barca game, I think Cuper ought to field Pasquale instead of Coco.

[Musiq]

Originally posted by Zek
oh come one Gamarra wasn't that bad, Canna was he was a complete idiot!

I would rather say Sorondo instead of Canna, the only thing Sorondo misses is getting some experience and confidence, he's one of our future boys :D

Yeah, Canna had an off day that match. He was pathetic, couldn't sttop Saviola at all. He'd better prove himself worthy of the Azzuri arm-band, or Nesta'll steal that from him. :D

As for Sorondo, I don't know why Moratti's letting him hang around so much. He ought to go on loan like Adriano, and return when he's good enough, or when there's an opening!

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by Musiq
Coco's being way to inconsistant. I'd give him chances, but not against Barca or Juventus. Even Pasquale is better.
i know what u ***ken mean. in CM coco always play shit
(and i know that i'm comparing reality with CP games here)

[Moon-Star]

Originally posted by Zek
thanks Moon-Star for your info the only comment I would like to mention is Emre being playmaker together with Yildiray! That's one of the secrets of the Turkish NT, you've got 2 playmakers what means you're fast in attack, you've got more options in attack and you've got more chances to survive if one of your playmakers is well marked by opposition.


yep,ZEK.you are absolutly right.you solved our one of secrets.
our midfield is our castle.......
i can say emre is our spy-playmaker...:D

P.S:i am not a galatasaray fan.......:silly:

[Moon-Star]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
cos nismo and someone was having an argument bout emre and the position of the turkish NT and then inter_fanatic
what i think we need now is some word of wisdom from our friend Dr. Moon-Star
and i said damn right cos i agreed with him

opps,i understood wrong,nerazzuri.....

[Moon-Star]

Originally posted by InTeR_FaNaTiC
what is it with Nerazzuri's and Brizilian models !? :evil: :cool:
:silly:

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by Moon-Star
opps,i understood wrong,nerazzuri.....
it's :cool:

[Sebastian]

there's a possibility for CUPER TO play CORDOBA on the left back over COCO against JUVE.........that will be a mistake.......exept if COCO kicks ass on the left flank........but if not that will be a mistake.........

[nismo]

Originally posted by Musiq
Yeah, Canna had an off day that match. He was pathetic, couldn't sttop Saviola at all. He'd better prove himself worthy of the Azzuri arm-band, or Nesta'll steal that from him. :D

As for Sorondo, I don't know why Moratti's letting him hang around so much. He ought to go on loan like Adriano, and return when he's good enough, or when there's an opening!
C'mon Musaiq, even the best have off-days now and then. We can't expect man-of-the-match peformances nonstop. At least Canna is consistent, than say ohhhh :rolleyes: sergio
Nesta also had bad games last year remember.

Sorondo has potential, but he needs to gain experience, and build-up confidence, and he won't be getting either at Inter for sometime. So we should loan him out like you said. He has the raw talent so if all goes to plan he can become the Latin-Nesta. I don't want to see him waste away in Inter, only to improve as a better player when he leaves (e.g Ferrari)

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by eLcino
there's a possibility for CUPER TO play CORDOBA on the left back over COCO against JUVE.........that will be a mistake.......exept if COCO kicks ass on the left flank........but if not that will be a mistake.........
coco is way too inconsistent. cordoba would be a better choise
and canna and matrix in the CB cos of treze

[Sebastian]

CORDOBA ois a brilliant defender........but this is no time for experimenting..........CORDOBA can not push on the flanks like COCO.......we need an offansive fire power as much as possible.....and CORDOBA cant suply INTER with that......COCO could've been a nice solution for the left flank....but there's RECOBA.....and the matter is closed.............:smoking:.........in you're opinion the defense is composed from three central DEFENDERS........leaving only JAVIER as a full back.....who will push in the forward.....that means that it'll be lot more defansive....and against a team such as JUVE that might be a fatal mistake........CORDOBA can play in the left back........but the FACT is....he isnt a FULL BACK........that can play on the left back just as good as on the left offansive wing..........

[Musiq]

Originally posted by nismo
C'mon Musaiq, even the best have off-days now and then. We can't expect man-of-the-match peformances nonstop. At least Canna is consistent, than say ohhhh :rolleyes: sergio
Nesta also had bad games last year remember.

Sorondo has potential, but he needs to gain experience, and build-up confidence, and he won't be getting either at Inter for sometime. So we should loan him out like you said. He has the raw talent so if all goes to plan he can become the Latin-Nesta. I don't want to see him waste away in Inter, only to improve as a better player when he leaves (e.g Ferrari)


Never said a truer word bro!! :thumbsup:

Only thing is, Ferrari won't return. Moratti very smartly sold Parma the other half of his contract too! :rolleyes:

[Musiq]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
coco is way too inconsistent. cordoba would be a better choise
and canna and matrix in the CB cos of treze

Sound like a case of:

"Give a dog a bad name and hang him"

Come on dude, Coco did have a couple of good games. Only problem is, he plays a great game, then he's injured and sits out for a month. Then he returns to play another good game, then returns to the hospital.......

So, that's what happened to Emre last season. Look at him now, he's our star of the season.

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by Musiq
Sound like a case of:

"Give a dog a bad name and hang him"

Come on dude, Coco did have a couple of good games. Only problem is, he plays a great game, then he's injured and sits out for a month. Then he returns to play another good game, then returns to the hospital.......

So, that's what happened to Emre last season. Look at him now, he's our star of the season.
yeah ok then. i'll give him some more time to prove me wrong

[nismo]

Originally posted by Musiq
Never said a truer word bro!! :thumbsup:

Only thing is, Ferrari won't return. Moratti very smartly sold Parma the other half of his contract too! :rolleyes:
Well it's not impossible to bring him back, but Moratti will have to pay many times more than what he sold him for (depending how much Ferrari improves). But I don't think Ferrari would comeback he's enjoying his time at the Tardini.

But we have Sorondo, and Pasquale, so it's not like we gambled our youth talent away just yet :D

[nismo]

Originally posted by Musiq
Sound like a case of:

"Give a dog a bad name and hang him"

Come on dude, Coco did have a couple of good games. Only problem is, he plays a great game, then he's injured and sits out for a month. Then he returns to play another good game, then returns to the hospital.......

So, that's what happened to Emre last season. Look at him now, he's our star of the season.
You and your " A Wise Man once said" phrases Musiq :thumbsup: the only one on WSB.

That's true about Coco, being comparable to Emre's debut season at Inter. I don't think he's been given the opportunity for an extended run in the first team to be judged objectively. Where as Sergio, he blows chance after chance like a steam train. We should sell him but who's stupid enough to buy a winger who can't run at defenders and cross???:confused:

[nerazzuri]

3 stricker up front..... not a good idea. especially against juve

[Sebastian]

.....this is probably the biggest DOWN for CUPER............i couldnt believe that there was GULY?????even a retard knows that CONSEISAO and OKAN are trilion ligfht years ahead from this gnat..........:mad2:............CUPER again prooved that his psichological strength is weak....and the tactical formations for every derby are nothing but DEBACLE..........he does everything wrong in the derbyes.....against MILAN there was VIVAS...........who didnt played a god damn match whole season............and now GULY?????
what's wrong with ya dam RETARD????
......even an imbecil would play RECOBA bihind the strikers........with that kind of formation 4-4-2 we can newer corespond with JUVE and aspecially against MILAN............can you imagine RUI and RIVALDO playing on the left?????
...............CUPER ids ridiculous...........damn idiot........JUVE wasnt that good.........we were without heads.........that was the lowest performance i ever saw...................:mad:.........

[nismo]

Originally posted by eLcino
.....this is probably the biggest DOWN for CUPER............i couldnt believe that there was GULY?????even a retard knows that CONSEISAO and OKAN are trilion ligfht years ahead from this gnat...........
I don't know about Sergio being a trilion times better. He's just as bad if not worse.

I can imagine Lippi secertly hiding his laughter when he found out Cuper fielded Guly in the starting XI. What a sham.:mad:

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by nismo
I can imagine Lippi secertly hiding his laughter when he found out Cuper fielded Guly in the starting XI. What a sham.:mad:
:eek: :mad: ........:cry: ........ its like playing with 10 men

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by nismo
I don't know about Sergio being a trilion times better. He's just as bad if not worse.

I can imagine Lippi secertly hiding his laughter when he found out Cuper fielded Guly in the starting XI. What a sham.:mad:

......SERGIO worst than GULY..............:silly:.........if GULY sees this...he would be flattered............:D....hahaha......no one is as bad as GULY........he can get any worse.......that was a classic...........he made a ridiculous FAUL in the fourth min....and right after he scored...........:ronaldo:........that was a TALENT.........GULY is an occasional talent guys...................usually when someone score a goal to INTER im not in the mood........but for this i laughed......me and my father........that was amazing.........you have a point......just imagine all the preassure coming down from LIPPI'S shoulders......:silly:......after he heard the name GULY............CUPER you jackass..........

[Sebastian]

The 4-4-2 formation is your favourite. When you've tried out the 3-5-2 the results haven't measured up to your expectations...
Every coach has a system that offers him greater certainties with respect to another system. I feel at ease with the 4-4-2. The team can push forward whilst remaining covered. It can attack without losing equilibrium. I tried the 3-5-2 twice last year but it didn't go well. We abandoned this system after twenty minutes of the match against the Greeks in the UEFA Cup and against Atalanta it turned out to be even worse because we lost at home.

how stupid this looks............:rolleyes:........3-5-2????
INTER isnt BRASIL......they won the world cup becouse they're ball possesion was AWESOME..........every game.........they hide the ball with ENGLAND with 10 players..........
inter should try............4-3-3.........that's the one.......

[nerazzuri]

MILAN - Here's the text of an exclusive interview given by Hector Cuper to monthly football magazine Il Nuovo Calcio (4):

You've also tried the 3-5-2 formation on several occasions this year...
I'd say that the friendlies like the one [against Atalanta] in Bergamo don't count. Yes, I've tried it on a number of occasions, but the team's game hasn't convinced me. Cuper knows how to work well with the 4-4-2 and who chooses me as coach knows I prefer this system and that I have achieved good results by fielding my team in this way. Also, the 4-4-2 is the same only on paper because each player has different characteristics from the others. If the midfielders are Okan , Cristiano Zanetti, Di Biagio and Recoba I have one team. If, on the other hand, I field Conceiçao and Emre in place of Okan and a central midfielder, the team varies completely.

Is there another formation you'd like to try?
Yes. The 4-3-1-2.

In this case would the half-striker have to be Recoba ?
The half-striker must also know how to be a midfielder when the opponents have possession of the ball, and a striker when we have the ball.

Recoba played between midfield and attack against Leverkusen in the Champions League. He even seemed to be free of tactical rsponsibilities...
I told Recoba he had to move freely but only up to a certain point. Too much anarchy creates disorder. Against the Germans I asked him to retreat to the midway point of the opposing half and then vary as he wanted to when he had the ball. I didn't want to give reference points to a team that was physically very strong. Of course, the other midfielders behaved in a consequent manner so as not to leave spaces open in the other areas of the pitch.

What can you say about the 4-4-1-1 you used against Roma last year?
It was a nice match. Do you still remember it?

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by eLcino
......SERGIO worst than GULY..............:silly:.........if GULY sees this...he would be flattered............:D....hahaha......no one is as bad as GULY........

I'd say they're equally hopeless. God knows how many chances we've given Sergio. Then again, that just means Guly has had less chances to show just how bad he is.

[ilcapitano]

So Cuper said that 4-3-1-2 would be an option. I'd like to see Recoba behind the strikers, against smaller teams anyway.

[Hizbollah]

Sergio used to be a good player but he's 30 already and past his prime.

[Sebastian]

ilcapitano.........that's obvious.........god knows how many polemics i had with Skuolo about SERGIO and in the end he finaly got it......the players should've been sacked last summer......but there's still time still time......GULY is farrrrrrr more worse than SERGIO...........at least SERGIO played like a world class player......and there's still some fragments of that class....once in the whole season.........but GULY is a an"occasional TALENT"..........

[Zek]

our problem is that we've got too many idiots in a squad :silly:

really Gresko is the man comparing to Guly and Sergio this season

btw: what gresko is doing now?

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by Zek
our problem is that we've got too many idiots in a squad :silly:

really Gresko is the man comparing to Guly and Sergio this season

btw: what gresko is doing now?

Didn't he go to England on loan? Blackburn or something...

[Zek]

:confused: it's interesting to here what's he doing in terms of playing the ball?
is he among the good or bad ones now?

[JD]

he can't get a game
after getting gresko in it seems Souness prefers Lee McEvily a Blackburn youth team player as left back

[nismo]

Originally posted by JD
he can't get a game
after getting gresko in it seems Souness prefers Lee McEvily a Blackburn youth team player as left back
Hahahah sucked in Souness.
You've been played for as a fool.
LOL
Kinda makes me wish that Cuper used Pasquale as LB instead of Gresko as well though. Maybe May 5th would've panned out differently:angel:

[Zek]

Shall they try Sergio too???

another incentive to develop their youth team :D

[nismo]

Originally posted by Hizbollah
Sergio used to be a good player but he's 30 already and past his prime.
Errrr sorry to disprove the theory that you know everything, be all, end all about football, but Sergio hasn't even reached 29 yet :)
........past his prime, yeah your spot on.

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by nismo
Errrr sorry to disprove the theory that you know everything, be all, end all about football, but Sergio hasn't even reached 29 yet :)
........past his prime, yeah your spot on.

Yes, it's all due to his age :silly:...
It's not like reaching 30 years is the limit for all the players.
But maybe I'm wrong and players like Baggio, Zola and Bergkamp should have retired years ago.

[Sebastian]

prepare for one of the most CRUCIAL segments of our TACTICAL imroovment.........:evil:.........

take a look at them.......he's allready kickin.......

[nismo]

Originally posted by ilcapitano
Yes, it's all due to his age :silly:...
It's not like reaching 30 years is the limit for all the players.
But maybe I'm wrong and players like Baggio, Zola and Bergkamp should have retired years ago.
Forget 30
try around 40
Roger Milla Italia90 :D

[JD]

Dave Beasant is turning out for Brighton this season
he's 42!

[Sebastian]

in ENGLAND everything is possible...........only when i look to that old man on the goal SEAMAN.....the guy is 40...and there's still no one competent enough to replace him......that's why EPL is so full of goals.......a LIVERPOOL fan said to me.....the derbies in the SERIA A sucks...........a said why???becouse there isnt goals he replyed...............damn IDIOT.........did you ever saw the goal keepers????

[Hizbollah]

In Italy there are lot more tactics involved than in England. Over 60% of the English teams still practise the old kick & rush.

[Sebastian]

...that's my tipical counter argument with an EPL fan.......i say"you're spectrum of comors isnt wide enough to realise the TACTICAL pathern in the SERIA A......and you all want to see goals even from MISTAKES of the goal keepers...."
the EPL is farrrrrrr bihind the PRIMERA DIVISION and aspeciall y from the SERIA A...........:evil:......

[nismo]

Imagine if the EPL imposed a similar ban in SerieA to restrict non-EU players, can you imagine how poor the quality of football will degrade to.

[Slavenik]

EPL sucks. Most of the people that watch it saying that its the most interesting are those guys hwo are still trying to understand football and dont know one very important thing, nice football isnt just scoring goals with DOLEKEEPERS on the goal.

[Sebastian]

it's INTERESTING.....allright....it amuze me.....:D... everything exept ARSENAL and MU is outrageous.....

putting an EPL fan to watch a SERIA A game is like putting a RETARD watching STAR TRACK.............:rolleyes:.......

[Musiq]

Yeah, in the EPL, its like:

"The rich get richer, the poor get poorer"

{Forgive me Nismo, I couldn't resist unloading another "wise-man" saying!! :D}

Only teams like Arsenal, Man U, and occasionally Liverpool (not this season though), ever challenge the world.

That's one more reason why I expect Inter to thrash Newcastle tonight.

[Hizbollah]

Man UTD, Arsenal and Newcastle play the more modern football from all the English teams.
The Premiere League was all kick & rush before Alex Ferguson revolutionised the league with his tactics in the earlier 90's.

[nismo]

Originally posted by Hizbollah
Man UTD, Arsenal and Newcastle play the more modern football from all the English teams.
The Premiere League was all kick & rush before Alex Ferguson revolutionised the league with his tactics in the earlier 90's.
Chelsea can also play good football when they get their act together. And for a short while in 2001, Leeds played above the average of EPL teams.
His motivational tactics also led him to getting the nick "Blow Dryer"! :D

[Zek]

Originally posted by Musiq
Yeah, in the EPL, its like:

"The rich get richer, the poor get poorer"

{Forgive me Nismo, I couldn't resist unloading another "wise-man" saying!! :D}

Only teams like Arsenal, Man U, and occasionally Liverpool (not this season though), ever challenge the world.

That's one more reason why I expect Inter to thrash Newcastle tonight.

Musiq proved wrong by Sir Robson. Newcastle tactics were excellent. ---amusing phrase :silly:


whatever you guys tell but EPL is not that bad taking into account those low technique players involved ;).
Moreover Seria A is becoming the same boring stuff as EPL now... I watch battles not games in seria a, very few teams actually play the rest is battling. Inter as well not playing but battling, it's getting ridiculous, all those tackles and etc.
the real football is la liga :) very sorry to say that but it is.

[Hizbollah]

The best football is being played in La Liga and Serie A. The playes in the Spanish league have more freedoms in their game than Serie A players for example, simply because they don't have as many tactics integrated in their system so they have more room and possibilities to score goals.
Their goal-statistic speaks for itself, the most goals are being scored in Spain.

[Sebastian]

defenetlly the La LIGA......it seems that they evolved to some higher level of intelegence.....and all the players lterary everyone wants to play there.....

[Sebastian]

on the subject....another CUPER screw up.........playing with just one STRIKER just isnt gonna work.....we aint MILAN.......and they're not INTER.....we ahve our own stile of football..........when he inserted MARTINS the match lighten up.......... bu it was sort of late..........:rolleyes:.......

[Slavenik]

Marins did good, dont you agree, taking in consideration that it was his CL debut and that he was inserted when we were down, everyone expected from him to fresh-up the attack, and thats what he did.

[Sebastian]

...well that's what iom saying...........he should've start the match with two strikers...that's BOBO and MARTINS instead of only one.......another unwise option..........see BOBO canb newer play as a lonely WOLF in the forward.....players who should play like that are HENRY.....NISTELROOY....ADRIANO or RONALDO.....a creative ass kicker......but BOBO isnt capable of doing dribbling tricks and he inst FAST.....if that's what the case we would've won the match.....i dont know man.......CUPER mistakes the formations and tactics more and more these days.........what's wrong with him..........:confused:.......

[Slavenik]

Now in Germany, Martins will be our hope. If Newcastle wins against Barca, and if we want to continue in the CL, we will have to win, and it will be only Martins there. Somewhere it was mentioned that Crespo could play too:confused:

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

Originally posted by eLcino
...well that's what iom saying...........he should've start the match with two strikers...that's BOBO and MARTINS instead of only one.......another unwise option..........see BOBO canb newer play as a lonely WOLF in the forward.....players who should play like that are HENRY.....NISTELROOY....ADRIANO or RONALDO.....a creative ass kicker......but BOBO isnt capable of doing dribbling tricks and he inst FAST.....if that's what the case we would've won the match.....i dont know man.......CUPER mistakes the formations and tactics more and more these days.........what's wrong with him..........:confused:.......

easy for you to say :rolleyes:

[Sebastian]

does that means that it's easier to criticise him and his line up.....than to compose the formation in person?????
...if that's you're point than....what's the meaning of being a FAN???????i can do nothing else but criticise....wich means..........."value" his option.........and the fact is that he makes more and more mistakes.....it's a tough job....but hey....he should lurn from his mistakes......not ignore them......
playing with five mid fielders and one striker....is damn good.........but that's a hilarious optin...when you have a players in the mid section like GULY....and GIGI....who doesnt have a slightes idea of CREATIVITY............everyone knows that......

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

Originally posted by eLcino
...if that's you're point than....what's the meaning of being a FAN???????

And what's the meaning of being the other fan ... we have different opinions :) :silly:

[Sebastian]

ok i understand that there's comfrontation of sertain opinions....but the thing is.....we're no diferent .......logicly....we're bouth helpless in front of the TV sets......it's the same for the first...second and even the bilionth fan.......we all sit down and watch the games........exept if you have something to do with the formation solutions..........:silly:.....but i doubt.....you arent involved in that kind of activities....so what's the diference????
you watch the game....i watch the game.....you yell...i yell......we're bouth irrelevant for the RESULT of the game....and the tactics of the team........we can only criticise particular segments of the game.....nothing more.....if you think that CUPER didnt made mistakes with the formation against MILAN......(VIVAS) instead of ZANETTI..becouse JAVIER was too tired...:rolleyes:...)....againsT LAZIO(inserting RECOBA before the end of the first half).......against JUVE playing GULY on the right instead of OKAN and SERGIO.......against NEWCASTLE playin with only one completely uncreative striker..........that's you're opinion......wich isnt consequent with reality......these are cristaly clear mistakes........that's why i designed this thread.........the bottom line.....it's not about the opinion......it's about reality.......we can bouth polemise about something but the fact is that CUPER screwed up the derbies.....you cant possibly think that MILAN...and JUVE are superior to us.......my examples arent fiction....they are real as Zek's nick...........:D.............:p.........

[Zek]

pray for Roma game. I am afraid Mr. Cuper would try to catch two rabbits and play not the full 100% squad against Roma, draw with them and then would try to rest some of his squad for the next seria a game and lose to Valencia...
remember last year feyenoord and atalanta...

[Catenaccio]

The fact Cuper brought on Gamarra when we were down against Udinese shows the strangeness in his doctrines, not only did it not work, but the denfender helped concede the second goal.

For some reason, he left Martins and Sergio Conceicao on the bench to rot, and the game was the last before the internationals??

[nerazzuri]

u tell'em catenaccio.......... im starting to like this guy;)

cuper is starting to piss me OFF!

we HAVE! to get ronaldinho!
THEN! we can play with only 1 FW
imagine this:

-------------------gigi/almeyda/c. zanetti--------------------

----okan----------------------------------------------dalmat---

------------------ronaldinho------emre------------------------

-------------------------------vieri-------------------------------

............. well, sumthing like that

[nismo]

I just like to know.....when was the last time someone said anything positive about Cuper's defensive tactics?

Against udinese, I'm surprised an experienced defender like Gammara commited a mistake to let in goal cheaply like that. What happened to gammra I used to know from the paraguay internationals I watched :confused:
I think he'll leave season's end. He's having a torrid season. Not only is he not getting games, but when he does, he doesn't take the opportunity to show Cuper he deserves to be in the first XI.
This Udinese game beared so many resemblace to last season fatal Atalanta game, in terms of confusion, unorthodox tactics, and plain ol' vague attitude on the pitch.

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by nismo
IAgainst udinese, I'm surprised an experienced defender like Gammara commited a mistake to let in goal cheaply like that. What happened to gammra I used to know from the paraguay internationals I watched :confused:
I think he'll leave season's end. He's having a torrid season. Not only is he not getting games, but when he does, he doesn't take the opportunity to show Cuper he deserves to be in the first XI.


He's been one of the biggest disappointments of the season...when he joined, I was expecting him to become a first team regular before too long, and cursed Cuper for not selecting him. But it looks like he can't fit into serie a or then it's just another case of Inter curse (I'm getting superstitious these days)...

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by Catenaccio
The fact Cuper brought on Gamarra when we were down against Udinese shows the strangeness in his doctrines, not only did it not work, but the denfender helped concede the second goal.

For some reason, he left Martins and Sergio Conceicao on the bench to rot, and the game was the last before the internationals??

this backs up my doubts in CUPER decisions......last season he showed nice tactical ability when he played SERENA over...you know who....:rolleyes:.....but this time it's more complicated than meets the eye......ROMA-VALENCIA-MILAN..............:shocked......i think that this is the critical period for INTER......maybe two wins and a draw would be maximum for us.....we have regained CRESPO and all....but it's damn frightening.....but hey ROMA is the easiest match...so that must be a win....acording to all logical and rational......i just hope that CUPER doesnt make a "sudden DEATH"move like that against UDINESE.........

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
u tell'em catenaccio.......... im starting to like this guy;)

cuper is starting to piss me OFF!

we HAVE! to get ronaldinho!
THEN! we can play with only 1 FW
imagine this:

-------------------gigi/almeyda/c. zanetti--------------------

----okan----------------------------------------------dalmat---

------------------ronaldinho------emre------------------------

-------------------------------vieri-------------------------------

............. well, sumthing like that

........ronaldinho as a central mid fielder?????
well he might play like PIRLO in MILAN as a deep play maker......but i dont know if CUPER'S spectrum of colors is wide enough to perceive this.......:ronaldo:.......
i read the nesw aboutGAUCHO with immense interest....and i hope that MORRATI will be consequent to his recent words and comments.............:smoking:......:evil:......

[Catenaccio]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
u tell'em catenaccio.......... im starting to like this guy;)

cuper is starting to piss me OFF!

we HAVE! to get ronaldinho!
THEN! we can play with only 1 FW
imagine this:

-------------------gigi/almeyda/c. zanetti--------------------

----okan----------------------------------------------dalmat---

------------------ronaldinho------emre------------------------

-------------------------------vieri-------------------------------

............. well, sumthing like that

Just a slight too attacking for Cuper's liking I think??
I am not sure he likes too many fantasy players either, with Recoba plus Ronaldinho.
It maybe too attractive stuff for Cuper.
We'll probably end up with another Guly, one of his Argentine love-child.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by ilcapitano
He's been one of the biggest disappointments of the season...

I personally never understood why we got him. Sure it was a free, but his wage is being paid. He's really done quite dreadful for us.

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by eLcino
........ronaldinho as a central mid fielder?????
well he might play like PIRLO in MILAN as a deep play maker......but i dont know if CUPER'S spectrum of colors is wide enough to perceive this.......:ronaldo:.......
i put gaucho and emre as attacking mids(playmakers)

[Catenaccio]

SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE BOARD ALTOGETHER

ANYWAY

Any reflections on the disastrous tie against Roma tonight??
I would have thought logic would lead Cuper to bring on a stopper to defend the lead, and an attacker when we're down. He obviously thought otherwise, bringing on Morfeo for Emre(who's more defensive). Annoyance enhanced when the number 10 lost the ball for their 3rd goal, plus we could have blown it when Montella hit the post after.

Maybe this is this so called new age thinking.

Remeber last match he got Gamarra on when we were losing?? Oh well, there goes another Scudetto.

[nerazzuri]

i'll give cuper another chance cos he had to build the squad, but next season if cuper doesn't win anythin then he's OUT!.
but for now, i'll give him sh/t

[ayt]

its going to be 4-4-2 for sure next year.. cuper already said he is buying players to fit into the 4-4-2 module.
Dream on about ronaldinho guys... he'll never come if we have an argentine as a coach.

and stop blaming cuper for winning nothing this year.
TELL ME... what players did cuper have to fit into 4-4-2? the module relies on good wingers whipping in good crosses.. Vieri is just a freak of nature who scored 28 goals without half decent service. That recoba and conceicao shit whips in one cross in like 3 games. What good is that you tell me??
As for 4-4-2. I disagree you have to have a natural playmaker. usually you just need a DM and a CM who can pass the ball to the wing and let the wingers and wing backs do their overlapping shit. Predictable? Boring? Yes i agree but with crespo and vieri up front you have to play to your strengths and that is airballs with them heading it.

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by ayt
its going to be 4-4-2 for sure next year.. cuper already said he is buying players to fit into the 4-4-2 module.
Dream on about ronaldinho guys... he'll never come if we have an argentine as a coach.

and stop blaming cuper for winning nothing this year.
TELL ME... what players did cuper have to fit into 4-4-2? the module relies on good wingers whipping in good crosses.. Vieri is just a freak of nature who scored 28 goals without half decent service. That recoba and conceicao shit whips in one cross in like 3 games. What good is that you tell me??
As for 4-4-2. I disagree you have to have a natural playmaker. usually you just need a DM and a CM who can pass the ball to the wing and let the wingers and wing backs do their overlapping shit. Predictable? Boring? Yes i agree but with crespo and vieri up front you have to play to your strengths and that is airballs with them heading it.
another example is beckham and RVN.

[Sebastian]

a lot of time has passed since we discussed about this matter.....and i have one question for all of you...........ARENT YOU SICK AND TIRED FROM CUPER'S DEFANSIVE C-R-A-P?????????????
...........:fed-up:......:mad:....:mad2:..........i mean the two matches against MILAN were a TOTAL failure......an APOCALIPTIC end for INTER...............i was shocked when he sub. CRESPO in the 70' min..........:shocked:........ RECOBA did screwed up........but he shoud've played bihind MARTINS and CRESPO.......what a ridiculous TACTIC from CUPER...........ANCELOTI sub were SERGINHO...RIVALDO ...while this "GENIOUS" sub RECOBA and CRESPO........:confused:.............he's one strange person i must add........
it was clear that my favorite formation won the C.LEAGUE...........why does LIPPI plays with NEDVED bihind TREZEGUET and DERL PIERO?????why does he doesnt play him on the left or as a FORWARD?????why does ANCELOTI does the same with COSTA?????what's wrong with this???
-----------------RECOBA-------------
---CRESPO-------------------VIERI-----
???????????????????????????????
or against MILAN
------------------RECOBA-------------
---CRESPO-----------------------MARTINS
??????????????????????????????
it' obvious that RECOBA is more technicly refined than bouth of them........but if MORRATI decIdes to sack him than i will support his solution........if RONALDINHO doesnt come than ALVARO departure from INTER wouldnt be wise but he srewed it BIG TIME......you cant blame only him......it's a PARTIAL blame for him and for CUPER as well..........

[ayt]

most defensive team?
give me some stats
i'll give you one to start off with.. most goals scored
i think 12 more then ac the team you seem to be reefering to as most attacking

[nerazzuri]

i agree with eLcino:thumbsup:

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by ayt
most defensive team?
give me some stats
i'll give you one to start off with.. most goals scored
i think 12 more then ac the team you seem to be reefering to as most attacking

first of all it's convencially known that INTER is a defansive team......regardles of the goals we scored.......goals are irrelevant when you dont reach the main objective......it was evident...and more than that that we're are boring....insicure and totaly incompetent to react against sides like JUVE...MILAN....and other who plays moderate offansive football.......JUVE thrashed REAL......with a 4-3-3 formation and MILAN won the TOURNAMENT......but we stubbornly insists with a ridiculous4-4-2 nonsence.......the best forward is just a REFLECTION of our huge ARSENAL of world class forwards....and nothing else......if we put everything on it's place we will score goals against some cool ass kickers.....and not against BRESCIA......COMO...and EMPOLI.....we seems to lost our heads when we face a TITAN....and that crushes you're "EVIDENCE".....why didnt we scored against JUVE and MILAN????they VIPERISED us completely..........

[ayt]

ridiculous 4-4-2?
what are you on about?
last four teams in champs league: inter, real, ac, juve.
Which team doesn't play 4-4-2 there?

you said juve plays 4-3-3.. nedved is a mid not a forward.
ac only play inzaghi and shevchenko up front.
real plays ronaldo and raul with figo and zidane behind them.

I really dun see your point in giving the 4-4-2 system shit.
The only good team i see that perform consistently at the highest level without a 4-4-2 is manchester.. they play something close to it with a 4-5-1 and the mids flooding forward.

so i say leave cuper alone... just because that recoba shit can't perform you go knocking the coach...

[Sebastian]

......i wont leave the coach alone......it's not about RECOBA...the lad desapointed completely.....but so did CUPER......
NEDVED is a mid????sure he is.....but RECOBA can be a mid any time......in URUGUAY he was brilliant with a complete freedom on the field.....and when he arrived at INTER ha was considered as a mid....and what'e the problem you're saying that ALVARO cant perform well bihind BOBO and CRESPO????he can play on diferent positions......but he said him self that he can perform his MAX while he's bihind the strikers.......
yeah.....4-4-2 formation is a ridiculous choice for INTER.....and that is proven......the only way that can suit us playing the 4-4-2 formation will be the purchase of GIGGS and BECKHAM......but that's hard to happen.......signing BECKHAM will improve our team and our formation that is a subject for this polemics......but there's allways this B-U-T....

[ayt]

i'm not sure aobut your definition of a mid is. But if you reckon recoba can be a mid.. so can anyone in the world

for a player who doesn't defend.. you use the term very loosely.
nedved comes back and brings the ball out from the edge of his area and charges up with the ball.
The last time i saw recoba do that he ran out of puff before he reached the halfway line.

stuff it not bothering goign to reply to your bias remarks anymore. You should admit that recoba is a hell of a lucky player the amount he is been paid and the amount of work he does and produce on the pitch.

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by ayt
i'm not sure aobut your definition of a mid is. But if you reckon recoba can be a mid.. so can anyone in the world

for a player who doesn't defend.. you use the term very loosely.
nedved comes back and brings the ball out from the edge of his area and charges up with the ball.
The last time i saw recoba do that he ran out of puff before he reached the halfway line.

stuff it not bothering goign to reply to your bias remarks anymore. You should admit that recoba is a hell of a lucky player the amount he is been paid and the amount of work he does and produce on the pitch.

......RECOBA is a lucky player??????
i'll tell you what's RECOBA.....he's just another DIAMOND who went through INTER'S eyes....without seeing his MAGNIFICENT glance.....i wont count the other DIAMONDS......we used to say that kind of crap about SEEDORF.....and lots of others.......but right after they switched to a diferent team they go BANG......:evil:.......
the only thing that RECOBA needs is a complete freedom....and he'll impress......but CUPER is a stereotipe of a person.......he's reactons comes right after the match....wich is easy even for a RETARD......im sick and tired from his usless experiments......and a lot of players feel that way....you dont have to be a CLAIRVOYANT to detect that.....im afright that someone important for our club can leave this summer.....and im not pointing on RECOBA... someone lot more crucial and essential than ALVARO.......

[nismo]

I don't think Moratti and management not buying players to fit 4-4-2 is helping Cuper much with his tactics. Hopefully we get players to play in Cuper system.
And if he fails there's no excuse this time

[Catenaccio]

Originally posted by nismo
I don't think Moratti and management not buying players to fit 4-4-2 is helping Cuper much with his tactics. Hopefully we get players to play in Cuper system.
And if he fails there's no excuse this time

Maybe Cuper should consider utilising a formation that actually suits the attributes of the players at his disposal instead on forcing a formation on them. One can see some of the guys don't suit a 442 system, eg, Dalmat doesn't know where to play, Recoba can't play left wing...etc

[Sebastian]

....guys.....buying players that fits particualiry in 4-4-2 formation might ruin the team when someone with more wider spectrum of colors arrives......if CUPER doesnt succeed this season and someone else take over than that could be a desaster.....4-4-2 formation isnt the best choice for us....i think that 4-3-3 will be a better option...see my line up in INTER ideaL FORMATION THREAD AND IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THE MID FIELD IS DAMN CREATIVE.......with C.ZANETTI on the mid and DALMAT(right) with EMRE on the left.........

CUPER had a lot of down's this season maybe too much....but i will forgive everything if he becomse a champion.......in SCUDETTO or C.LEAGUE.......

[nerazzuri]

a 4-4-2 is perfect IMO with crespo and bobo up front, they just need a ***kin' decent cross.

[Sebastian]

.....i dont think it's perfect with two pure finishers.....but it can be with someone creative like HENRY...RONALDO...DEL PIERO....or ADRIANO......it was perfect when RONIE was arround.....RONALDO and VIERI......the best of those two diferent worlds......:evil:.....you see BOBO and CRESPO cant do much on their own like those five mentioned players can....;)......and with a 4-4-2 formation you should have one creative and one pure finisher.....like MILAN and JUVE has.... our forward is brilliant but it's lacking creativity.....

[nerazzuri]

how bout recoba :rolleyes:

[nismo]

Maybe Cuper should consider utilising a formation that actually suits the attributes of the players at his disposal instead on forcing a formation on them. One can see some of the guys don't suit a 442 system, eg, Dalmat doesn't know where to play, Recoba can't play left wing...etc
ditto to that
It's apparent Cuper is indoctrinated with the 442. He's no Raddy Antic, as long as he's here it's the ol skool approach of wingers being essential to any attack.

[nismo]

.....i dont think it's perfect with two pure finishers.....but it can be with someone creative like HENRY...RONALDO...DEL PIERO....or ADRIANO......it was perfect when RONIE was arround.....RONALDO and VIERI......the best of those two diferent worlds......:evil:.....you see BOBO and CRESPO cant do much on their own like those five mentioned players can....;)......and with a 4-4-2 formation you should have one creative and one pure finisher.....like MILAN and JUVE has.... our forward is brilliant but it's lacking creativity.....
Mutu and Adriano is the best example of the partnership you're suggesting Elcino :thumbsup: As much as I admire Crespo as a striker, I don't think him and Vieri compliment each other as effective as other partnerships elsewhere in Europe. But if we're going to get the best out of Crespo and Vieri, we need an attacking midfielder supporting them, something IMO Cuper has neglected to do with Recoba. Look at Milan, they play with two similiar forwards in Sheva and Pippo, but they have Rui Costa along with a plethora of other midfielders providing the passes and assists.

[ilcapitano]

Look at Milan, they play with two similiar forwards in Sheva and Pippo, but they have Rui Costa along with a plethora of other midfielders providing the passes and assists.

I think Shevchenko is more than a pure finisher.
Anyway, I agree with your point in general.
Cuper will never leave his 4-4-2, even if we looked better with 3-5-2...

[Slavenik]

Sheva is a great finisher, but he is quite more crative than Crespo and Vieri. He is more reliable.

[nismo]

Yes Sheva is very good on his day. But apart from his first two seasons at Milan, he hasn't reached similiar heights since. Now he saves his best for Inter in the derbies :fed-up:

[Slavenik]

Cuper: Scudetto or The Sack Sunday 29 June, 2003

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hector Cuper confirms he will be fired if Inter fail to win the Serie A title again next season.


"President Massimo Moratti's patience has run out," admitted the Coach. "He and the fans want the Scudetto at all costs."


Cuper has been under increasing pressure after failing to pick up a single trophy in his two years in charge and there were reports he would be sacked this summer.


"There was never a crisis between Moratti and myself. There was only constructive and justified criticism."


Nonetheless, the tactician realises this is his last chance to make an impact at the San Siro.


"The title is our priority," he continued, "even more so than the Champions' League. I still hope we can go all the way in both competitions."


The Argentine had claimed that the squad at his disposal was not built for the favoured 4-4-2 system, but the club is now moving to bring in wingers Freddie Ljungberg and Luciano.


"We have no more excuses. We can't say the World Cup tired some of our players out, so our pre-season training can start on the right foot."


One new buy has already come in, exchanging Domenico Morfeo for Parma's versatile midfielder Sabri Lamouchi.


"He is an important player," insisted Cuper. "Lamouchi also won two League titles in France and can therefore help bring a winning mentality to the squad."


The former Valencia boss does confess that he was less than impressed by Inter's performances last season.


"The fact we failed to win anything was made worse by Juve's Scudetto victory and Milan lifting the Champions' League."


"Overall our standard of play was just not good enough," he added. "We were poor on the flanks, in defence and midfield."


Only Christian Vieri's remarkable 24 goals managed to earn Inter a second place finish behind Juventus.


"In the Champions' League we were a bit more commanding, even though at Valencia we sat back and defended to a frankly embarrassing degree. I must admit the criticism was entirely justified."


That 2-1 second leg defeat at the Mestalla, which saw Inter through on away goals, sparked the Spanish press campaign against Italian football.


Valencia Coach Rafael Benitez even went so far as to claim Cuper's men represented "the death of football" with their siege mentality for a 2-2 aggregate draw.


"However, we were also unlucky with injuries," insisted Cuper. "Hernan Crespo's thigh strain was devastating and his absence was keenly felt."


This is the make or break campaign for Cuper and he is well aware of the pressure on his head.


"Inter must win the Scudetto, there are no doubts. The fans have not celebrated for so long that this has become an urgent matter."

"I understand their frustration and am already concentrated for the new season."

[Sebastian]

....:D....his comments are hidious......if he screw up again....he'll make MORRATI a jack ass....

[nismo]

too late elcino
Moratti has proven himself to be a fool on many occasions :grumpy:

[Sebastian]

too late elcino
Moratti has proven himself to be a fool on many occasions :grumpy:

maybe he'll prove us wrong with the transfer purchases....he'd might heal our mind injuryes with a cool trasnfers.......

[ilcapitano]

...still waiting for those...

[Sebastian]

....we have to sign a top class player...soemone who's expensive....we wasted too much cash on expensive players....who didnt do a dam thing for INTER....now's the time to make INTER complete.......

[r9mania]

....we have to sign a top class player...soemone who's expensive....we wasted too much cash on expensive players....who didnt do a dam thing for INTER....now's the time to make INTER complete.......


Inter need a worldclass PLAYMAKER in midfield! Emre is doing good , but Inter need a player who can contribute and do the damage! I hope Inter can get both Gigg and Lungjberg

[Sebastian]

Inter need a worldclass PLAYMAKER in midfield! Emre is doing good , but Inter need a player who can contribute and do the damage! I hope Inter can get both Gigg and Lungjberg

well pal GIGGS is one extremely marvelous game shaper.....but our recent purcahses are not bad eh????...:smoking:.....
actualy they are awesome.....LUCIANO and VDM.....man....i thought that this kind of wings will be completely out of the question....cos when you'll consider our TRANSFER tradition....you'll be even more surprised how good these deals are....:ronaldo:......

[nismo]

I think with the signings we've made so far most of our creativity will be coming from wing play. I expect Emre to provide support from midfield to the penalty box, with Luciano and VDM doing the killer crosses for Bobo and Crespo. If we had Veron in our midfield it would be close to complete. But I'm happy with a Emre - C.Zanetti duo :D

[Zek]

I think with the signings we've made so far most of our creativity will be coming from wing play. I expect Emre to provide support from midfield to the penalty box, with Luciano and VDM doing the killer crosses for Bobo and Crespo. If we had Veron in our midfield it would be close to complete. But I'm happy with a Emre - C.Zanetti duo :D

Can't wait to see Luciano playing!
remember the first game with Chievo when he destroyed us I just dreamed that night Luciano playing for us. He has this blood and self pride which Sergio lacks!

God bless Luciano! if this not happens then I'll ask my eternal ally to help us :evil:

[InTeR_FaNaTiC]

Ok, some aspects I think Cuper will focus on:

-Defense and the understanding between the defenders that was lacking last season, it has to be quick and compact.

-Midfiled and working on the wings with Emre and Dalmat distributing the ball, especially when Crespo and Vieri are playing. But if Martins is playing I reckon through balls is how we can use his speed best.

-The understanding between Vieri and Crespo and making sure everyone understand their duties.

[nismo]

Can't wait to see Luciano playing!
remember the first game with Chievo when he destroyed us I just dreamed that night Luciano playing for us. He has this blood and self pride which Sergio lacks!

God bless Luciano! if this not happens then I'll ask my eternal ally to help us :evil:
Yes I do. I remember Gresko getting whopped time and time again. It was a nightmare for us.
I hope Luciano plays like in the 01/02 days and not like he did when he came back from suspension because he looked pretty average at times.

[Sebastian]

...guys lets call him ERIBERTO....:D....and he'll go booming like nuts.......:evil:......i know he'll be amazing.....:smoking:.....
you know what????

we can finaly compare our mid field with MILAN'S.....look at all these creative ass kickers.....:evil:......emre...dalmat....luciano....vdm.....cristiano(HE'S not as creative as these four....but he's creative enough)

[nerazzuri]

and look at milan.
rivaldo, rui costa, pirlo, seedorf and serginho :drool:

[r9mania]

Inter will be as creative ONLY if Cuper would be gone!!!! Inter playing counterattack and exploit goals from the oponents' mistake : that's NOT creative!!! Emre and VDM will be learning and improved , but They are NOT yet true playmaker!!! Luciano and Cristiano are ... second class players!

...guys lets call him ERIBERTO....:D....and he'll go booming like nuts.......:evil:......i know he'll be amazing.....:smoking:.....
you know what????

we can finaly compare our mid field with MILAN'S.....look at all these creative ass kickers.....:evil:......emre...dalmat....luciano....vdm.....cristiano(HE'S not as creative as these four....but he's creative enough)

[nismo]

I don't think we can compare our midfield to Milan, their one is brimming with talent and creativity. Their one might lack width but they have more than enough quality to open up defences, and with Cafu we'll see some runs from right back too, thus compensating for midfield lack of flanks.
We still need a true playmaker from midfield, someone like Veron.

[Zek]

Having lots of creatives does create another problem: which is the need for someone to do the dirty job - tackling.

Right now we look quite balanced. I very much like Cuper's moves now. He's getting rid of Guly, Farinos, Sergio, Vivas retired, DiBI (though I would have kept him, but you know my love for DiBi) and etc. He's building the real squad, the squad he wanted to have! So, interesting to see what would happend with his tactics. Actually, he has to change more than that he has to change his strategy, then adjust tactics accordingly!

[nismo]

I think we had too much of that last season - the ball winning and no creativity.
I hope this Inter will resemble the Valenica side of 2000

[Sebastian]

...we will defenetly be a side that will be feared.....i can bett on that......im anctious to see what kind of defender will sign.....

[nismo]

Cuper has said he likes a defender with height and body balance, so I'm expecting a titan if we were going for one. IMO Lucio is most realistic at filling that role. He has experience (International and Europe), height, build, speed, and eye for goal. Now that it's impossible to get Nesta or Chivu he's number 3 on my list.

[Sebastian]

...although there's have been statements that STAM is untransferable....there might be something realistic in this stuff....but still LUCIO is one hell of a defender.......he's a long term investition...and would be ideal together with CANNAVARO or CORDOBA....:evil:...i would give 20 m euros with no hesetation at all.....his transfer will be damn sensational while INTER confidence and motivation will be sky high...:smoking:......

[nismo]

True that elcino.
I would even put Cordoba as a LB in order to accomodate Canna and Lucio in CB. Coco might be better than Cordoba offensively and crossing but we have VDM on the left wing, and Ivan can make VDM's like easier by assuring him defensive back-up.

[Sebastian]

...yeah i'd stic to CORDOBA on the left.....COCO is maybe better in the offansive tasks...but he has made too many errors in the defense....while CORDOBA is fast as a player can be and all he needs to do is pass the ball to VDM....easy as a bird....;)......still having a player like COCO is a cool thing....he can be quite usefull.....

[nerazzuri]

What satisfied you most about your team's game?
"The first thing is the fact that the side is compact and the defence is making the right movements. The second think that pleased me was that we played with our heads by trying to exploit the wings and constantly moving well. The third and final thing is the advanced defence, which doesn't just mean offside, but also that the team is very compact on the pitch and they all moved together and came out of their own area with the ball at their feet."

[kory]

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