Udinese 1 Milan 0 :(

[Looney]

Never even looked like scoring...... we really need to travel better in the league. And Udinese seems to give Ancelotti lots of trouble, past 3 encounters (the ones Ancelotti's managed) we've lost 2 and barely managed to win the other.

[looneysylvester]

Calls up:
GOALKEEPERS: Abbiati, Dida, Fiori.
DEFENDERS: Costacurta, Kaladze, Laursen, Maldini, Nesta, Roque Junior, Simic.
MIDFIELDERS: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Dalla Bona, Gattuso, Pirlo, Rivaldo, Rui Costa, Seedorf.
STRICKERS: Borriello, Inzaghi, Shevchenko, Tomasson.

probable formation (4-1-2-1-2)
12 Dida
14 Simic - 13 Nesta - 3 Maldini (C) - 4 Kaladze
21 Pirlo
8 Gattuso - 20 Seedorf
10 Rui Costa
7 Shevchenko - 9 Inzaghi

Banned: -;
Warned: Kaladze, Maldini;
Injuried: Chamot, Helveg; Ba, Redondo, Serginho; Leonardo.

Referee: Paparesta.

Udine, stadium "Friuli", 26 January 2003 h 20.30, live on Stream.

Who played:
ATTACK
RUI COSTA RIVALDO INZAGHI
MIDFIELD
PIRLO AMBROSINI SEEDORF
DEFENDER
SIMIC NESTA MALDINI KALADZE
GOALKEEPER
DIDA

One single plenalty on first half scored by Udinese, Milan lost the game at Udinese.

Three problems found for the match:
1. Nesta was not fit and cannot clear the ball before hand-ball by Maldini;
2. Ancelotti's substitution on early second half was not good. Why Riva was replaced, Rui should be the one to be replaced as the work-rate for Rui was really lower than Riva;
3. Again, Ancelotti was wrong for Brocchi substitution was totally wrong in the second half. Tomasson should be placed instead of Brocchi as Tomasson is the good forward and we want a goal and Sheva can act as winger.

So the match lose will not happen if correct substitutions were made. Hard to forget the result.

We lost 1:0 and played probably our worst game this year!! :cry: :cry:

:evil:

[Slavenik]

What a bad performance.

And finaly there was a penalty whistled against you:rolleyes:

Bringing Gattuso in and taking out Rivaldo?? Ehat was he thinking?? Didnt he see the score-line:p

[lo Diavolo Bhoy]

FT Udinese 1-0 Milan AC

Pizarro Stuns Rossoneri (http://www.sportinglife.com/football/overseas/italy/news/story_get.dor?STORY_NAME=international_feed/03/01/26/SOCCER_Ita-Udinese__Nightlead.html&TEAMHD=italy)
Udinese threw the Serie A title race wide open by beating league leaders AC Milan despite playing half the game with only 10 men...

SoccerAge: Disastorous Milan Collapse in Udine! (http://www.soccerage.com/en/13/k1507.html)
Big surprise tonight at the Stadio Friuli, where a superb Udinese defeated league leaders Milan 1-0 even though they played the entire second half a man down...

Ancelotti Baffled (http://www.sportinglife.com/football/overseas/italy/news/story_get.dor?STORY_NAME=international_feed/03/01/27/SOCCER_Ita-AC_Milan_Ancelotti.html&TEAMHD=italy)
AC Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti admitted he was at a loss to explain his side's shock 1-0 defeat by Udinese on Sunday...

Tribal Football: Ancelotti blasts Milan after Udinese shocker
(http://www.tribalfootball.com/january/italnews1270103.html)
AC Milan trainer Carlo Ancelotti branded his team's performance as "ugly" in last night's 1-0 defeat by Udinese...

SoccerNet: Milan slip up on day of surprises (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/section?id=europe&cc=5901)
Serie A leaders AC Milan lost 1-0 to 10-man Udinese, while Lazio's 17-match unbeaten run ended on Sunday with a surprise 1-0 defeat at home to lowly Reggina...

World Soccer News: No excuses from Ancelotti as Udinese stall Milan's title charge (http://www.wldcup.com/news/2003Jan/20030127_16826_world_soccer.html)
AC Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti made no excuses for his side's shock defeat at Udinese which allowed city rivals Inter to draw level on points with the 'Rossoneri' at the top of the top of table in Italy...


Calcio.Datasport: Ratings (http://calcio.datasport.it/Db/sel_scoutpro.asp?par_id=76846)

Match Photos (http://www.acmilan.com/Photo_Gallery.asp)

[teo9393]

Originally posted by looneysylvester
Calls up:
GOALKEEPERS: Abbiati, Dida, Fiori.
DEFENDERS: Costacurta, Kaladze, Laursen, Maldini, Nesta, Roque Junior, Simic.
MIDFIELDERS: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Dalla Bona, Gattuso, Pirlo, Rivaldo, Rui Costa, Seedorf.
STRICKERS: Borriello, Inzaghi, Shevchenko, Tomasson.

probable formation (4-1-2-1-2)
12 Dida
14 Simic - 13 Nesta - 3 Maldini (C) - 4 Kaladze
21 Pirlo
8 Gattuso - 20 Seedorf
10 Rui Costa
7 Shevchenko - 9 Inzaghi

Banned: -;
Warned: Kaladze, Maldini;
Injuried: Chamot, Helveg; Ba, Redondo, Serginho; Leonardo.

Referee: Paparesta.

Udine, stadium "Friuli", 26 January 2003 h 20.30, live on Stream.

Who played:
ATTACK
RUI COSTA RIVALDO INZAGHI
MIDFIELD
PIRLO AMBROSINI SEEDORF
DEFENDER
SIMIC NESTA MALDINI KALADZE
GOALKEEPER
DIDA

One single plenalty on first half scored by Udinese, Milan lost the game at Udinese.

Three problems found for the match:
1. Nesta was not fit and cannot clear the ball before hand-ball by Maldini;
2. Ancelotti's substitution on early second half was not good. Why Riva was replaced, Rui should be the one to be replaced as the work-rate for Rui was really lower than Riva;
3. Again, Ancelotti was wrong for Brocchi substitution was totally wrong in the second half. Tomasson should be placed instead of Brocchi as Tomasson is the good forward and we want a goal and Sheva can act as winger.

So the match lose will not happen if correct substitutions were made. Hard to forget the result.

We lost 1:0 and played probably our worst game this year!! :cry: :cry:

:evil:

Sorry Looney..I don't agree

1. Nesta's performance was not the problem
2. Rivaldo was invisable yesterday..he could not find a way to contribute to the run of play
3. Not that I think Brocchi is a superstar but at least he provided some service into the area which was not there prior to his entry

Anyway, everybody knows that playing in Friuli this year is no bargain so don't worry too much...You're still the team to beat in my mind...;)

Only ' gli scontri diretti ' will tell...:)

[Looney]

hey that was the other looney who said that! I haven't seen the match til this weekend, just highlights so far! I dunno but Serginho might've inspired an equaliser..... I wish Ancelotti would throw on more strikers when we're down, it doesn't always get a goal but it generally raises the chance.....

[Istra Pula]

GREAT match if u ask me!!!! : )

the goal from Pizzaro was nice though...

FORZA FRULI!!!!

FORZA UDINE!!!!!!

[INTER FAN/BG/]

Keep up the good play Milan:D

[looneysylvester]

Originally posted by INTER FAN/BG/
Keep up the good play Milan:D

:D :D LOOK WHO IS TALKING!! :D

[Sebastian]

.....man....there hasnt been a team as INFERIOUR as MILAN was in UDINESE so far......:D......."GRANDE" MILAN with a player+ couldnt even see the goal.......:silly:.......and some people dare to say MILAN has the best forward?????
even if PAPARESTA expelled DE SANCTIS you would've lost......:ronaldo:.......how i felt goooooooooooooooood......:smoking:......so gooooooooooooood......

[INTER FAN/BG/]

Man I am so happy!

[Sebastian]

wait till the end of the season........last year i felt sorry for these people....:silly:....man they were dragging all season long........but now it' diferent....and im sure that defeats will hurt them more than last season......:smoking:.....:p......

[gnlvagosov]

Originally posted by eLcino
wait till the end of the season........last year i felt sorry for these people....:silly:....man they were dragging all season long........but now it' diferent....and im sure that defeats will hurt them more than last season......:smoking:.....:p......


just like I felt sorry for Inter when they lost the scudetto on the last day... :eek: :D ;) :evil:

[INTER FAN/BG/]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
just like I felt sorry for Inter when they lost the scudetto on the last day... :eek: :D ;) :evil:

And just like I will feel sorry for Juve this year!
BTW congrats gnlva you only got a draw with Atalanta:D!So lucky u didn't lost once again!

[gnlvagosov]

Originally posted by INTER FAN/BG/
And just like I will feel sorry for Juve this year!
BTW congrats gnlva you only got a draw with Atalanta:D!So lucky u didn't lost once again!

Last time I checked, Juve were still defending champs;)

[INTER FAN/BG/]

Well this year is not juve's year and everyone knows it;)

[gnlvagosov]

let's wait and see.. but becarefull. Don't let us snap that title at the end of the season like last year;)

[INTER FAN/BG/]

Don't worry you won't;).You are not as good as last year:)

[Looney]

Not to mention this time the team in front isn't a bunch of chokers like Inter, Milan actually wins Scudetti.

[gnlvagosov]

Originally posted by INTER FAN/BG/
Don't worry you won't;).You are not as good as last year:)

At the end of the season, we will know who was the better team.

[Sebastian]

but till then we should have some fun man.......and MIALN is fun...that's a fact.....as a mather of fact the game against UDINESE was some cool action.....INFERIOUR and DOMINAT at the same time....:D....:silly:....:p.....

[INTER FAN/BG/]

we will also have some fun with juve.
Perugia-Juve-2:0
Atalanta-Juve-1:1
and......many many more

[gnlvagosov]

the Perugia game was against Juve B in coppa d'italia:rolleyes:
the Atalanta game wasn't such a bad result, remember that Del Piero walked out injured.

[gnlvagosov]

the Perugia game was against Juve B in coppa d'italia:rolleyes:
the Atalanta game wasn't such a bad result, remember that Del Piero walked out injured.

[Looney]

Well, Del Piero's gone, say bye bye to the title!

[gnlvagosov]

Doesn't matter if DP is out, we will show you!:D :evil:

[Shevagirl]

Originally posted by eLcino
but till then we should have some fun man.......and MIALN is fun...that's a fact.....as a mather of fact the game against UDINESE was some cool action.....INFERIOUR and DOMINAT at the same time....:D....:silly:....:p.....

And not to mention Perugia-Inter.......oh boy;)
And one more thing don't forget that you have lost from Udinese too....so i gues u don't have right to talk about that.Btw you lost at home we were away........

I admitt that this match was disaster.....and i have no idea why is that.They played really bad but i'm sure it's not going to be the same in the next matches,we are going to start winning again!;)

[Sebastian]

fine babe.....i didnt denied the fact that MILAN is a winner.......sure you'll start winning......but you forgot one thing in the game againt UDINE.......you played with a player +.......while we were also dominant...but screw the dominance when you cant score.......JORGENSEN goal was most surprising and TOLDO could've only stare at the ball hellpleslly....it was a situation similar as when SEEDORF scored that late equaliser against JUVE laST SEASON........:evil:.......
you see the seria A teams found a weakness in MILAN and they're exploiting it.......the BACKS are inferiour with some of the wingers in the oponent teams.......SIMIC??????c'mon give me a break.....KALADZE?????
...pfhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....:rolleyes:....they're not even backs for god sake......and can you blame someone????
you had CONTRA......who beat INTER last season by him self.....:evil:.......COCO transfer was good for you and for US......and we aint gonna polemise for that one....but CONTRA was defently an error......and im glad........
you know i dont know how to predict PERUGIA-MILAN match.....i want to put him an 1 milan lose.....now im not sure that the referee will give a penalty for PERUGIA like he did for INTER...a FICTIOS one.....or weather he'll admit a goal; scored with VRIZAS hand........:silly:.....but hey....the possability for MILAN lose is huge...considering ZE MARIA brilliant performance....and who'll block him......SIMIC????
.....:ronaldo:.....
if you lose i'll get some extraordinary cash man.....:evil:.......cos all the fixtures in this weekend are easy to predict........

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
Doesn't matter if DP is out, we will show you!:D :evil:

.......:shocked:.....:silly:.......sure you'll "win""......:thumbsup:.......:D......:p......

[Shevagirl]

I know that we had player + and that we played really bad....i admitt that......
But don't even say a bad word for kaladze...you have to say this cause i guess you haven't watched him enough.....man he is great player.
they(Simic and Kaladze) are not backs like Maldini and Nesta cause they have diffrent assignments,and Contra had the same position.
And maybe it was mistake about Contra but you have no right to speak about mistakes cause you always have sold the best players.Oh not to mention Pirlo....or you will say that he is not good?????

[INTER FAN/BG/]

Well Pirlo is ok;)

[gnlvagosov]

don't forget to mention Seedorf;)

[Looney]

Is Coco lighting the San Siro the same way Seedorf is?

[INTER FAN/BG/]

Well Coco is a defender and Seedorf is a offensive midfielder!So you can't compare them;)

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by Looney
Is Coco lighting the San Siro the same way Seedorf is?

......:confused:......noCOC isnt lighting SAN SIRO and he has no reason for doing that...he's a defender....:rolleyes:........whil CLARENCE is an offansive mid fielder....the diference is HUGE........
but hey......EMRE...CRISTIANO......and RECOBA are not lighting they're DESINTEGRATING SAN SIRO....:evil:......we have brilliant mid fielders.......
but do you have a quality left back????
...do ya???
KALADZE?????first this guy isnt a left back...second he is farrrrrrr below COCO quality as a left back....so what's you point......you gave you're only left back......and we gave you one of our manny mid fielders.........SEEDORF is a world class.......but hey..EMRE is brilliant and by the time he makes 26...he'll be way better than SEEDORF..........the swap deal was good for bouth team.....except the fact that we made INTER COMPLETE with players strictly on particular possitions....unlike MILAN who placed on the backs.......two central defenders.......with CONTRA and COCO MILAN would've been far more better in the defense....but this is so cool.....:smoking:....and im glad.....

[Sebastian]

is PIRLO better than EMRE or RECOBA??????

[INTER FAN/BG/]

Well I think everyone knows that Emre and Recoba are way better than Pirlo!

[Looney]

Well if youtruly believe Emre and Recoba put togather is better than Pirlo, you've got issues man...... either that or you're just in denial for selling him to us....... oh and if your midfield is disintegrating the San Siro ours is also disintegrating the Riazor and the Olympicstation. And hey, are you still undefeated at home in the league? Are you?

I dunno about you, but last I recall Coco made his name as an offensive minded left back with a devastating cross..... and funny but yes Kaladze isn't a left back, but hey he's not doing a bad job! just imagine what we'd like if we did have a true left back..... I mean, unlike you guys we certainly let our leftbacks attack.....

[gnlvagosov]

IMHO Pirlo is way better than Recoba

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
IMHO Pirlo is way better than Recoba

now this is atrue REVELATION....:thumbsup:.........brilliant.....

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by eLcino
......:confused:......noCOC isnt lighting SAN SIRO and he has no reason for doing that...he's a defender....:rolleyes:........whil CLARENCE is an offansive mid fielder....the diference is HUGE........
but hey......EMRE...CRISTIANO......and RECOBA are not lighting they're DESINTEGRATING SAN SIRO....:evil:......we have brilliant mid fielders.......
but do you have a quality left back????
...do ya???
KALADZE?????first this guy isnt a left back...second he is farrrrrrr below COCO quality as a left back....so what's you point......you gave you're only left back......and we gave you one of our manny mid fielders.........SEEDORF is a world class.......but hey..EMRE is brilliant and by the time he makes 26...he'll be way better than SEEDORF..........the swap deal was good for bouth team.....except the fact that we made INTER COMPLETE with players strictly on particular possitions....unlike MILAN who placed on the backs.......two central defenders.......with CONTRA and COCO MILAN would've been far more better in the defense....but this is so cool.....:smoking:....and im glad.....


Kaladze is better than Coco in my opinion he have develop into a great player..........

[Looney]

But don't tell the Interisti that! They still think they got the better end of the Coco-Seedorf deal! :D:D

[VivaBarcaInter]

Kaladze isn't even a millionth as good as Coco.

[Looney]

True, not a millionth as good in the whinging department..... and hey, Coco's only good at decent teams that like to attack like Barca and Milan, but at Inter? Puh-leese! :rolleyes:

[Sebastian]

......KALADZE is good....but he isnt a world cxlass defender....nor he'll ever become.....and as for COCO....i wont discuss further........i can write an everlasting post....so that some of you will write just one word......"NO KALADZE IS BETTER THAN COCO".....what's the point is polimising further more???
....:rolleyes:......


True, not a millionth as good in the whinging department..... and hey, Coco's only good at decent teams that like to attack like Barca and Milan, but at Inter? Puh-leese!

should i reply to this rediculously pathetic composition of meaningless words????
...:confused:......teams who like to atack????
are you blind or something????
who has the best forward in the league mr. intelectual?????

or perhaps the goals are scored from the defense.....:rolleyes:.....you see how miserably ridiculous this looks?????
teams who like to atack????and BARCA is one of them?????you are amazing pal.....:D.....BARCA is one of the worst teams in EUROPE at the moment...with a FORWARD worst than COMO......and they sucked even when COCO played there......
so much for you're "ARGUMENTS".......

[VivaBarcaInter]

Man, Looney, you really take this Inter v Milan thing seriously, don't you? Personally, your lot are more like that annoying brother in law living on your couch because your wife "feels sorry for him".

You can make all the jokes you want, but Kaladze isn't as good as Coco. Not now, not ever. And as for Seedorf, that guy you all thought we would crumble without, apart from his early season flurry of activivty, he hasn't really done much has he? We seem to be getting by ok with our "boring boring Team". This is where I'd like to point out now here that our team, lacking all those wonderful players we sold to you, is both top of the league and top scorers in said league. I'm not saying this to be childish like some chaps I could mention, just showing that we're doing fine without the likes of Seedorf and Pirlo. You know Pirlo, that PLAYMAKER that Milan have been playing as defensive mid?

[Looney]

You make it sound like Pirlo playing in the deep playmaking role isn't good...... :rolleyes:

And the fact that Bobo is your topscorer just goes to show what kind of team you lot have: 1 man. In Europe you're a 1 man Crespo team, in Serie A it's Bobo. Come on! Topscorer doesn't mean the teamplay is attacking, just means your boy saves your lucky ass 90% of the time! I guess you lot are just blind after all.....

And elcino, sorry but last time I recall, Coco played for a Barca that was semi finalists in the ECL...... not this current sad excuse for a European Giant......

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by Looney
You make it sound like Pirlo playing in the deep playmaking role isn't good...... :rolleyes:

And the fact that Bobo is your topscorer just goes to show what kind of team you lot have: 1 man. In Europe you're a 1 man Crespo team, in Serie A it's Bobo. Come on! Topscorer doesn't mean the teamplay is attacking, just means your boy saves your lucky ass 90% of the time! I guess you lot are just blind after all.....

And elcino, sorry but last time I recall, Coco played for a Barca that was semi finalists in the ECL...... not this current sad excuse for a European Giant......

....this sounds ridiculous........one man team????
....:D.......who asssists to BOBO???....is he scores by him self...after he went through the whole field????c'mon.......let's get real..........BOBO left the macth against REGINA.....and KALLON scored twice with + two goal 100 chanses......i wont mention the other INTERISTA'S who scored......CRESPO in the CL and BOBO in the SCUDETTO.....isnt that wise??????....BOBO doesnt push balls to the walls in the CL.....and CRESPO doesnt insist in the CALCIO............that's a brilliant tactic........and one way or another you dont have enough arguments to proove otherwise than the FACT INTER has the best forward in the CL....and about the SERIA A i wont even comment............:smoking:........

SEMI finals????..........can you compare BARCA performance last year with INTER'S this season?????
COCO has played brilliant matches in INTER........he was injured in BARCA too.....so what's you're point.......semi finals when COCO played for BARCA wasnt even close to the second group in this season in the C.LEAGUE.........at the moment there's the most DEADLIEST competition in that TOURNAMENT........it cant get any powerfull than this awesome..........COCO isnt dead man........you'll see a lot from him in the near future........and i dont give a damn about SEEDORF and aspecially not for PIRLO.......INTER has a complete squad........that's all that counts......and we're kickin some serious ass........if SEEDORF was arround in the black'n blue shirt.......we would've newer discovered EMRE......who's by the way...........wayyyy more consistent than SEEDORF........and he's only 21......
while MILAN muscless are gettin sore.........the last three or four performances were most horrible......and i cant wait to see the one against LAZIO...........:evil:.....

[Looney]

Not saying you don't have the best forward in the CL or the Serie A, just saying that's all you have! Honestly how many times has Bobo taken a half chance and scored with it and saved you butt? Don't delude yourself, your midfield SUCKS, Recoba is hot and cold, Okan is useless, Emre has some skill.....

Coco at Inter..... when was the last time he charged down the flank and put in a brilliant cross taylor-made for the striker to head in? What he doesn't do that anymore? Why not? 'cause Cuper won't let him? Aw too bad......

Milan getting sore? I hate to see how far you guys will drop when Bobo gets injured again..... or worse when the ECL starts and we get our form back..... 6-0 in the derby again...... :D

[VivaBarcaInter]

Originally posted by Looney
You make it sound like Pirlo playing in the deep playmaking role isn't good...... :rolleyes:

And the fact that Bobo is your topscorer just goes to show what kind of team you lot have: 1 man. In Europe you're a 1 man Crespo team, in Serie A it's Bobo. Come on! Topscorer doesn't mean the teamplay is attacking, just means your boy saves your lucky ass 90% of the time! I guess you lot are just blind after all.....

And elcino, sorry but last time I recall, Coco played for a Barca that was semi finalists in the ECL...... not this current sad excuse for a European Giant......

Well, firstly....Um...yes, that IS what I'm saying. It can't be a good thing for your "supersquad" to have to play a playmaker in the anchor role, because you don't have a REAL defensive midfielder to play there. Unless you count Redondo :D Who by the way wouldn't even get near our "sucky" midfield.

And I like this "one man team" stuff. God forbid the forwards do thier job and score goals. Better that we have 2+ such players, notice that Inzaghi stops performing, Milan stop Performing?

Last point. Go on about 6-0 as much as you like. But don't be a hypocrit and complain when someone mentions Serie B. If you can go on about 1 GAME, why can others not talk about a whole season?

[Looney]

Max, Rino, Nando..... we don't have a defensive midfielder? :rolleyes: Pirlo's just too good to leave on the bench...... of course you lot at Inter wouldn't know that.....

Notice that it was Shevchenko who scored against Real Madrid? And notice that Pippo hasn't been on good form since we qualified for the 1st phase? You really need to actually watch some football :rolleyes: God knows what Inter looks like tho without Bobo saving their ass from nowhere......

Hey, elcino mentions that we haven't won a Scudetto in for yonks all thoses years ago, I can mention a single result from just a few years back. Not to mention the 4-2, oh and the 5 European Cups.... hypocrit my ass mate.

[VivaBarcaInter]

HAVING defensive mids isn't the problem. If you want to count every single registered Milan player in that position. What matters is who's PLAYING. And Pirlo has been PLAYING in that position for a large chunk of the season. I don't think he's that good. He wouldn't get a game for us, defensive mid or otherwise. I don't see why you think your midfield is so much better than ours. Sure, on paper, Milan's selection looks a lot more exciting. But why don't Milan play all 4 of their creative free role players, and see what happens.

I did notice that Shevchenko scored against Real, and I was very happy to see them lose, AND to see people respect and fear Italian football again. BUt I DON'T see him doing much else. And you're right, Inzaghi hasn't been the same for a while. But surprisingly enough, neither have Milan. See, I've been watching plenty. Instead of Inzaghi scoring tons to make Milan look like they are destroying teams, now it's 1 goal winning margins and a LOT of penalties. Do all the stupid little rolling eye things you want, it won't make Milan play better.

I also like that you tell me to watch more fooball, yet keep saying that Vieri has "saved our asses" plenty. Saved from who? Our team is set up so the defenders defend, the midfield creates chances for us and stops others, and the forward line scores the goals. Far from needing saving, thats the perfect team ethic. What more could anyone want? Are you sure it's not sour grapes that we've got Vieri, and you're stuck with Inzaghi?

But hell, if you need a thorough explanation, I'll give you one.

Since we lost to Milan, Vieri scored all 4 goals against Brescia. Hardly a "saving". We then drew with Lazio 3-3 after being 3-0 down. Someone saved our asses that game alright, but it wasn't Vieri. He didn't play against Atalanta, Kallon scored the only goal. He also didn't play at Parma, where we won 2-1, Recoba and DI Biagio scored there.

Again, he missed a game, against Modena, Recoba scored and Crespo completed his current muscular league total of 3 goals!

We then got a beating at Perugia, Vieri didn't save us there. Although he did score a penalty. Our 3 more recent games have been won by 2 or 3 goal margins. Sounds like boring boring Inter are the Milanese team in form.

Elcino likes to make fun because Milan were relegated. You make fun about us losing 6-0 to you. Fair enough, but personally I'd rather lose 6-0 than be relegated. You want to mention 4-2? Fair enough, I could mention that 3-0 when Milan lost at "home", whish is worse than 4-2. Or the fact that we've won more of these games than you have.

I don't really see where trophies come into it? You think Milan are somehow bigger or better due to winning 3 more league titles and 3 more European cups? You really think 6 trophies makes that much difference? How about us having the highest average attendance in Serie A the past few years, even with our "crap" teams?

[Looney]

Hey stupid! Like I said, watch some football! Pirlo plays in the deeper playmaking role, Rino Max and Nando plays in the defensive midfield role. What just because Pirlo sits in front of the D makes him a defensive midfielder with no contribution to the attack? You have the tactical awareness of a crippled donkey..... :rolleyes: And what? Just because Pirlo's not with you lot anymore he's crap? Watch some matches, he actually creates, and it doesn't just take ball hogging dribbles that usually end up between two big centrebacks to be good.

And let me check..... what's Inter's goals for? Now minus Vieri's tally...... and also who's been scoring in Inter's past few matches?

And do notice that recently we were still winning (albeit rather unconvincingly) despite Pippo not scoring jack all?

And you might wanna check, we've currently got the highest attendance this season..... oh not to mention financially we've still got more muscle despite you lot spending more than us over the past decade.

[Shevagirl]

Looney when will you understand that is not worth fighting with this ppl and that is not worth proofing something to them....cause they simply don't understand.

[Looney]

I know they'll never see the light..... but it's fun arguing with them, just to remind myself there are people out there less fortunate than us and supports Inter........ :D

[VivaBarcaInter]

There's no light to see, chief. And I don't see the "fun" in acting like an idiot.

But hey, I'll rebuke your arguments. Again.

Before that though, "less fortunate than us" ? You have a NEWCASTLE badge as an avatar and you have the cheek to insult Inter? :silly:

The "deeper Playmaking role"? I like how you can "insult" my tactical knowledge, when you can just make up ridiculous positions and tactics on the spot. Dude, a playmaker doesn't sit directly in front of the defence. Common knowledge. Simple fact.
Looking at the Milan formations for their last few games, He and Redondo have either shared a position during a game via substitutions or one has played instead of the other. Now, everyone accepts that Redondo isn't a playmaker, probably because you can't "make the play" from in front of your goalkeeper. Contributing to the attack doesn't make him a team's playmaker. Jees, this is like arguing with Severus. You're just like him, I could point up and say "the sky is nice today" and you'd say "that's not the sky!".

And no, Pirlo's just as...uh..Good (for lack of a more accurate word) as he's always been. He still wouldn't get a game for us, maybe the fact that he didn't explains why he went somewhere where it would be easier for him to play. If you see what I'm saying.

I still don't see how Vieri scoring a lot of goals makes us a 1 man team. As il fenomeno is so fond of pointing out, Vieri doesn't do a helluva lot outside the box. He's a world class finisher, but that's what he's there for, to put away the chances created by Recoba, Emre, Okan and the like. Which is their job.

Well, amusingly enough, our average attendance was the highest last season in Serie A. This season, we'll definitely at least match it. Even though our season ticket sale campaign ended 2 whole weeks before yours. Also a good point that Milan needed those big name signings such as Seedord and Rivaldo to get the "fans" to come in force. It would have been nice to see what Milan's attendance would be if all those "dedicated" fans didn't have the prospect of Rivaldo to watch.

And Financial muscle? I doubt that very much. I don't have figures at hand, but surely even having all those Milan officials in high places isn't going to help here. Surely it IS that ton of spending that shows who has the muscle around San Siro way. After all, during this pre-season's transfers, we actually made a profit!

[Looney]

Originally posted by VivaBarcaInter
The "deeper Playmaking role"? I like how you can "insult" my tactical knowledge, when you can just make up ridiculous positions and tactics on the spot. Dude, a playmaker doesn't sit directly in front of the defence. Common knowledge. Simple fact.
Looking at the Milan formations for their last few games, He and Redondo have either shared a position during a game via substitutions or one has played instead of the other. Now, everyone accepts that Redondo isn't a playmaker, probably because you can't "make the play" from in front of your goalkeeper. Contributing to the attack doesn't make him a team's playmaker

Well, that just proves your lack knowledge. Hey idiot, you don't need to sit in just behind the front two to be a playmaker, that's just a common position. In case you haven't noticed, most playmakers play in central midfield dictating play and rarely ventures into the opponent's third..... see while you can't make play just in front of your goalkeeper you sure as hell can do it with the whole midfield and attack in front of you and a defense to pick up the scraps when you screw up. What you haven't noticed that Albertini used to play in that role before he went stupid and only defended? Or Matthaus and Beckenbauer before they became liberos? Or how about Guardiola? Or what about a team that plays a flat four in midfield? What just because the likes of Vieira, Keane and Redondo aren't true playmakers all midfielders in front of the defense aren't?

Pirlo was moved along 'cause Inter can't see good young italian talent when they got it, if they're not worth billions, they're not good players..... :rolleyes:

Hey Vieri might be a poacher like Inzaghi, but in case you haven't noticed the difference is that Bobo often has to feed off half/poorly made chances while Inzaghi takes 3-4 good chances and come up with 1-2 goals.

And spending lots on players doesn't prove your financial muscle (see Leeds United), it proves your financial controllers are incompetent, this time saved by the sale of that ungrateful overweight rabbit.

Any hey, at least at Newcastle we don't sell great young talents to our rival then say he's no good..... not anymore anyway..... :p

[Sebastian]

Originally posted by Looney
I know they'll never see the light..... but it's fun arguing with them, just to remind myself there are people out there less fortunate than us and supports Inter........ :D

......it's amazing how much you people adore being happy with a thing that is completely irrelevant in our lives.........titles or no titles.......we can only watch back and yell......and to be honest you're the ones that are pointless with arguments......0-6 and those 14 years without a scudetto is everything you can spit out........how confusing.......counter argument....for those 14 years is MILAN'S 45 years......for thet 0-6 is the SERIA B...how does it looks.....MILAN-GENOA....:silly:........and there's one more that you dont have.....better players....that INTER has plenty of......and we'll allways have......you'll be damn jealous in the summer.......like you usually are........talking about partic7lar players.....that sucks...i out of the critic boundaries.....
and i wont waste my time with you people......when you cant even the reality.....RECOBA sucks eh???
EMRE hes some skill.........pathetic.....last year there was some of you who farted about SEEDORF and now look.....he was good in INTER too......but EMRE is a better player and more perspective than CLARENCE......who is really good.....

forget it......:rolleyes:......

[Looney]

In English please! :rolleyes:

I dunno, but do you Interisti just love being hypocrits? You say we live in the past, yet you're the one who keeps mentioning Serie B and 45 years without a Scudetto... hey Serie B was before you guys last won a title, and our drought was followed by how many Scudetto and European Trophies? And we've got more titles than you despite being in Serie B...... what a shame for you guys eh? :p