Best Scandinavian Country

[gnlvagosov]

Which One is The Best Soccer Playing Scandinavian Country?

[Roberto Abrego]

I think is Sweden :D

and you??

[gnlvagosov]

I chose Sweden aswell.

[Roberto Abrego]

why?????


were r u from???

[Olesen10]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
I think is Sweden :D

and you??

Hey Roberto, kan du forstå mig hvis jeg taler sådan her?

[gnlvagosov]

I am from Lebanon, and lately Sweden have impressed me, Llunjgberg (however you spell it) is amazing, hopefully he will come back to his good form after his injury for Arsenal.

[Robledo]

I voted for Denmark. Pacy wingers in Grokjaer,Rommedahl,Lovenkrands, and Ebbe Sand up front. Tomasson now knows where the goal is as well (shockingly bad at Newcastle, I should know, he acted like a clown in front of goal, but he's matured now:D )

[tok87]

I voted 4 Denmark, cuse of their style of playing, Norway is defenitly N°1 in boring football - just a long ball to Flo.........

[ItalianBoy]

I am between Sweden and Denmark.
Both good.
And Iceland is part of Scandinavia? Not sure about that.

Well both teams are good.

[tok87]

Where would u put Iceland itaboy.? :silly:

[ItalianBoy]

How can Iceland be part of Scandinavia? There is ENG Ireland between. Icaland is by itself. If I am wrong ple prove me with facts from sites etc. :)

Scandinavia is made of four countries: Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland. That is Scandinavia.

[tok87]

Iceland is also part of Scandinavia, didnt u have geography in ur school?

I agree,that is a litlle away, but it doesnt matter.

What about Turkey - europe? Israel - europe? Kazachastan - europe? Azerbaijan - europe?

[gnlvagosov]

oy ItalianBoy, Tok87 took your back to school:D

[gnlvagosov]

you*:rolleyes:

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by Olesen10


Hey Roberto, kan du forstå mig hvis jeg taler sådan her? of course I understand u...and please speak english so the other users understand as well :D

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by tok87
Iceland is also part of Scandinavia, didnt u have geography in ur school?

I agree,that is a litlle away, but it doesnt matter.

What about Turkey - europe? Israel - europe? Kazachastan - europe? Azerbaijan - europe? if u see a globe u will notice that iceland is not that far from norway,sweden,and finland...

[tok87]

I know, its itaboy. whos saying, that Iceland isnt part of Scandinavia.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
I am from Lebanon, and lately Sweden have impressed me, Llunjgberg (however you spell it) is amazing, hopefully he will come back to his good form after his injury for Arsenal. is Ljungberg

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by tok87
I know, its itaboy. whos saying, that Iceland isnt part of Scandinavia.


ooohh ok :)

[ItalianBoy]

Originally posted by tok87
Iceland is also part of Scandinavia, didnt u have geography in ur school?

I agree, that is a litlle away, but it doesnt matter.

What about Turkey - europe? Israel - europe? Kazachastan - europe? Azerbaijan - europe?

I know where Iceland is, and it is actaully pretty far IMO. Well tok I guess you are right. Yes I did have GEO class and I am good in GEo, I just had a black out.
Sorry. Well anyway! :)

[gnlvagosov]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
is Ljungberg

yup thx:)

[tok87]

No problem itaboy. ;)

[Orange]

Scandinavia is Sweden, Denmark and Norway.

The Nordic is made up of Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland and Iceland.

[gnlvagosov]

and I guess your the one that voted for Norway as the best team out of those?:)

[tok87]

Probably :silly:

[FlyingFinn]

Originally posted by Orange
Scandinavia is Sweden, Denmark and Norway.

The Nordic is made up of Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland and Iceland.

Now, this is the first right one. I had to vote for finland. Always support your homeland.

[tok87]

Well the pool is: - who is the best team, not who do u support, so.....

[soccer fanatic]

I voted for Sweden.

[gnlvagosov]

now finaly there's people over here!!!! don't let this board die! can anybody help me out in the French Board? i seem to be talking to myself over there...so anyone please...

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
now finaly there's people over here!!!! don't let this board die! can anybody help me out in the French Board? i seem to be talking to myself over there...so anyone please... i will try and help u ok :)


were r u from gnlvagosov??

[gnlvagosov]

Lebanon and you?

[Orange]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
and I guess your the one that voted for Norway as the best team out of those?:)

Yes, and I could back it up too, with results. But I guess you are not interested in that? :)

[nisse]

Hi all!

I now gave Sweden the 10th vote and can prodly say we have 50% in the poll:)
I agree that this board is pretty dead,that´s why I dont visit it that much.
I also think the forum is a bit complicated to use, it´s to big and have to many functions. It should be simpler and more "compact" so u easily can get an overwiew. When u read the posts it´s irritating to have to read an old post again before the new one.
And then there are the silly comments that everybody uses to show which team they cheering on.
Other than that it would be a great site to use more often.
Thanx for the attention and I´m now awaiting a big attack;)


Oh and one more thing...what the hell is soccer?

[tok87]

Soccer = Football

AMericans says soccer instead of football :rolleyes:

[gnlvagosov]

:silly:
Tok87 you would be a good dictionary ;)

[Roberto Abrego]

:D everybody nows what soccer mean...

[nisse]

The questions is if everybody "nows" what ironi means?

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
Lebanon and you?

Sweden

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by nisse
The questions is if everybody "nows" what ironi means?

I cant tell u exactly but at least I can give u an example ;)

[Crimson-]

Hmm, well, as sad it is to confess, it is Sweden. (And I'm a Finn, that's why it is hard to confess.. :P)

But I think in 5 years or something finnish football will rise to the level of the betters. At least I hope so.

Well swedes, we beat you up in -95 in that (to you bitter sweet) ice hockey final in Globen, ha :P
And when talking 'bout ice hockey, I think that Sweden is better in WM2003 In Helsinki, somehow I don't trust to finnish team. :/

Oh, but we talked about football, okay :D

[duttend]

Originally posted by tok87
I voted 4 Denmark, cuse of their style of playing, Norway is defenitly N°1 in boring football - just a long ball to Flo.........

stupid idiot... flo isnt in the team u dumbass

[duttend]

norway and denmark is playing best right now. sweden sux, 1-1 against Hungary and draw against Lettland or what the he** is in English.
denmark can play like the greatest team in the world but they r unstabile.

[Roberto Abrego]

the name is Latvia...


and we are having some troubles the team had change a bit since the WC we would get manage to it and be the best again

[tok87]

Originally posted by duttend
stupid idiot... flo isnt in the team u dumbass

MAybe not now, but he was, and that was how Norway used 2 play, BORING!

[tok87]

Originally posted by duttend
norway and denmark is playing best right now. sweden sux, 1-1 against Hungary and draw against Lettland or what the he** is in English.
denmark can play like the greatest team in the world but they r unstabile.

I just wont 2 remind u, that Norway lost with that Latvia (at home) in the qualif. 4 WC.....:silly:

[duttend]

thats right, but at that moment the coach Semb had maked a decision that Norway only would only use the local players, so Solskjkær, Flo, Carew, Iversen, Berg, Riise and Johnsen wouldnt get to play in the national team.
Flo hasnt played in the national team since EC 2000 but was on the bench against Austria in a friendly match.
In the Euro 2000 quailifer Norway scored 21 goals in 8 games. Sweden scored 10, who is playing boring football?

[duttend]

another thing is that the biggest victory for Sweden in the Euro 2000 qualifier was 2-0 against Luxumburg

[tok87]

I was talking about the style of playing not about the results......so....u have 2 admit that Norway played very boring, now i dont know how they are playing, since they havent played on WC......we will see in qualifys 4 Euro 2004....

btw: with who is Norway in the group?

[INTER FAN/BG/]

I voted for Denmark because I think that are playing very good football,(the best from Scandinavia) and the most interesting football.And also they produce many stars(more than the other scandinavian countries).

[duttend]

Norway is leading the group with: Denmark, Romania, Luxumburg and Bosnia and have met Denmark, Romania and Bosnia

[tok87]

Quite a hard group, good luck ;)

[gnlvagosov]

IMO Norway & Romania will qualify

[Olesen10]

What about Denmark? We're going pretty strong in right now as Jon Dahl Tomasson is named third most dangerous attacker in front of goal in the whole world! :)
And no offence, but IMO Norway was lucky to get a draw against us in the overtime in Norway...

[ahba]

as a Turkish, i like Sweden most..
just because of Kennet Andersson who played for my club Fenerbahce..
also the clolours are the same ;)

[duttend]

Originally posted by Olesen10
What about Denmark? We're going pretty strong in right now as Jon Dahl Tomasson is named third most dangerous attacker in front of goal in the whole world! :)
And no offence, but IMO Norway was lucky to get a draw against us in the overtime in Norway...


wtf :confused:,
norway had 21-7 in chances and i have a pretty strong feeling of that norway would win at Parken as Norway is best on away-pitch. but ill say u come at 2nd place 2 points after norway ;)

[Olesen10]

No, you come second :D
As long as Denmark qualify I'm happy...;)

[gnlvagosov]

hey Romania is qualifiying no matter what...

[duttend]

lol... r u serious???

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by INTER FAN/BG/
I voted for Denmark because I think that are playing very good football,(the best from Scandinavia) and the most interesting football.And also they produce many stars(more than the other scandinavian countries).


Sweden had produced more stars than Denark also in the present........

[Olesen10]

I think it's a tie...Sweden is right now producing pore stars IMO, but before Denmark had many stars and the the two Laudrup brothers must count double...:D:silly: And of course, Peter Schmeichel.

[The Rule]

i went for denmark,sweden have some good players,but larsson is a loss,but Denmark have good quality throughout the team,including a great keeper in sorenson plus as was previously mentioned the danes gave the world the magnificant laudrups

[duttend]

ill say its a draw between denmark(fantastic football), sweden (great stars like larsson, ljungberg, patrik andersson, anders svensson, magnus hedman and zlatan ibrahimovic)and norway (many stars like flo, solskjær, øyvind leonardsen, john arne riise, john carew, ronny johnsen, claus lundekvam, andre bergdølmo, eirik bakke, steffen iversen, vidar riseth, jo tessem, thomas myhre, henning berg and sigurd rushfelt).

Heres my Scandinavian Dreamteam(post replies on it if u dont agree):
GOALKEEPER:
------------------Magnus Hedman----------------------------
DEFENCE:
-thomas helveg--andre bergdølmo--henning berg--john arne riise
MIIDFIELD:
-jesper grønskjær(hes a striker but ill use him as an at. midfielder)--eirik bakke--fredrik ljungberg--ørjan berg(he isnt playing any NT soccer so many of u may not know of him, but i think he is one of europes most tecniqual players, playing in RBK)
STRIKERS:
-----jon dahl thomason/zlatan-----ole gunnar solskjær-------
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RESERVES:
patrik andersson, anders svensson, dennis rommedahl, thomas gravesen, ebbe sand, kim källström(intresting young player) erik hoftun, øyvind leonardsen, john carew, thomas sørensen/myhre

[Roberto Abrego]

Larsson is no longer in the NT..........

[duttend]

i know that, but he is from sweden anyways. i forgot him in the dream team. he should proberbly be there too.

[Mackem Roligan]

Denmark are by far the best team in scandinaivia we have a good manager in Morten Olsen who has us playing some very attractive football and most importantly winning games in Thomas Sorensen we have one of the best young keepers around,entertaining attack minded midfielders such as Jorgensen,Gronkjaer,Rommedahl and Lovenkrands we also have in my opinion one of the best strike forces in the world in Sand and Tomasson and of course in the most fanatical fans.In comparison Sweden are a poor relation your management team of Soderberg and Lagerback have very negative ideas and the majority of players are average apart from Ljungberg who it has to be said rarely plays well for his country and as for Norway beating Denmark at the Parken dont make me laugh we will give you a footballing lesson.

[Robledo]

A Mackem living in the Toon eh? :D

[Mackem Roligan]

theres just no getting away from mags at the moment you wont be so smug if we beat you in april

[Robledo]

by then you'll be relegated:D

[duttend]

i can agree with u that denmark plays good football and have good attackers, but they r definitively not much better then norway and sweden.
we totally dominated the match at ullevaal and had 21-7 in chances and had many hits on the post, and thats at ullevaal where the NT r playing the worst. they always plays good at away pitch, so I think they'll win agaisnt denmark. and u have romania on awaypitch ur next game i think u'll get a though match there, and when u then meet norway u proberbly loosed much of ur self confidence.

[Mackem Roligan]

Yes I agree Romania in bucharest are a tough team to beat but by beating Bulgaria in the WC2002 qualifiers we showed we can get good results against teams like that in hostile atmospheres.Yes you outplayed us in Olso but even when you where on top of youre game and we were having a bad day it still took you until injury time to scrape a draw.I think the match at Parken will be tight because Norway will most likely put ten men behind the ball and hope to get agoal on the counter attack so we must score early if we do that I doubt Nils Johan Semb will have a plan B.

[nisse]

Duttend
your allstar-scandinavian team needs some changes I think. sweden has got a number of worldclass central defenders that are better than bergdölmo and berg.
olof mellberg
johan mjällby
michael svensson
patrik andersson(when he´s not injured)
and maybe even teddy lucic

magnus hedman is crap, frode grodås is better than him;) *lol*
zlatan has potential but are overrated at the time, carew is way better.
otherwise it looks like a pretty good team, if i had a billion euros i would recrute them all to GIF Sundsvall. and your right about källstöm, he can make it big, a new pavel nedved perhaps.

[nisse]

no not teddy lucic by the way hes crap to, goodnight...

[Mackem Roligan]

hows this sound

formation-4-3-3

keeper-Thomas Sorensen

defenders-Thomas Helveg,Sami Hyypia,Patrick Andersson,Jon Arne Risse

Midfielders-Dennis Rommedahl,Jari Litmanen,Thomas Gravesen

strikers-Jon Dahl Tomasson,Ebbe Sand,Eidur Gudjonsen

subs-Thomas Myhre,Niclas Jensen,Martin Jorgensen,Jesper Gronkjaer,Ole Gunner Solksjaer

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by nisse
Duttend
your allstar-scandinavian team needs some changes I think. sweden has got a number of worldclass central defenders that are better than bergdölmo and berg.
olof mellberg
johan mjällby
michael svensson
patrik andersson(when he´s not injured)
and maybe even teddy lucic

magnus hedman is crap, frode grodås is better than him;) *lol*
zlatan has potential but are overrated at the time, carew is way better.
otherwise it looks like a pretty good team, if i had a billion euros i would recrute them all to GIF Sundsvall. and your right about källstöm, he can make it big, a new pavel nedved perhaps.

Magnus Hedman is a pritty decent GK...

I dont think Zlatan is overrated as u said he is a very good player and will become a star........

and I agree with u Berg and Bergdölmo arenot as good as some of our Df... like Mellberg,Mjällby and P.Andersson when is fit...

[duttend]

i think zlatan is a great player when it comes to put the ball in the goal, but he doesnt have good sportmanship(need to learn much there), and he dont pass much. john carew makes alots of assists and are MUCH better on challenges and heading.
but i certenly cant agree with u that olof mellberg, johan mjällby, michael svensson, patrik andersson is better then henning berg and andre bergdølmo. maybe berg is getting a little old but that is certenly mjallby and mellberg too so then I rather go for claus lundekvam or hoftun. bergdølmo plays in Ajax and are very strong in the tacklings and are fast and young.
i cant really say that the defence is the strongest part in the swedish team, that would be the midfield and maybe the attackers. the one player i think i havnt heard of is michael svensson, is he a sothhampton player?? cuz i just had that in mind when i heard the name.

i didnt find any bettter goalkeepers then him, and frode grodås is curently playing in the norwegian 1 division for Hønefoss FK :D but played the match against denmark. norway has a big problem with goalkeepers and have 3 older keepers that are getting retired. rbk's reserve keeper: espen johnsen is an alternative(playing in the U21 NT) also erik holtan is good but there is a big problem there.

[duttend]

and mackem rooligan. i dont think norway is going to play defencive football.
egil olsen, who is a former coach for norway invented the boring football u r used to see in norway for like a year ago and so. but actually he managed to make the team produce ALOTS of goals and beat brazil 4-1 in WC warm up rounds. other little more b-team was beaten with like 8-0 and so in the WC 1998 qualify. he used very few midfielders and used defs and strikers in the midlfield, and that football was very entertaining. nils johan semb has tried to copy that kind of football but that didnt work and he uses a more attacking football now.
however, it is going to be the most difficult win for norway in the EuroQual, if norway get all the tree points in Parken. i think this is one of the most dificult group in the EuroQualifer and the one that wins the group is going to get far in the EC.

[Mackem Roligan]

John Carew is an awful player in my opinion I know he scores the odd important goal but most of the times ive seen him play he looks like a clown.

[Mackem Roligan]

duttend-I was thinking that Norway might play for a 1-0 win like in Romania when you visit Parken and I agree that its a difficult group.Its very difficult for Denmark because we are used to being underdogs but after impressing alot of people in the WC people expect us to win this group and its not going to be easy because Norway and Romania will be desperate to prove people wrong and dont forget Bosnia aswell they beat us 3-0 back in 1997.

[The Rule]

Originally posted by duttend
[B]norway (many stars like øyvind leonardsen

i'm sorry i just saw this,this guy is one of your STARS.i nearly fell of my chair when i saw this..........Leonhardsen is one of only two players in the history of liverpool to a)be crap in every single position,including bench-warmer and b)not be able to kick with either foot.............he's absolutly terrible,if he's one of your STARS,then i'm afraid you lot are screwed.

the other player is BISCAN by the way

[nisse]

Just for the reccord Duttend:
Bergdölmo is born 1971
Lundekvam 1973
Henning Berg 1969

Patrik Andersson 1971
Johan Mjällby 1971
Michael Svensson 1975 (and yes he play for the Saint´s and are a huge success)
Olof Mellberg 1977 so if you´re to old when u r 26 I donno?

Oh, and I forgot Andreas Jacobsson (1972). He took P.Andersson place in the world cup and was the biggest sensation in the swedish squad. Not easy to keep record of all swedish central defenders you see. So u can put Berg and Bergdölmo where the sun dont shine ;)
And I´m not kidding, Hedman´s days of glory are over. Sörensen the Dane maybe? I have no idea realy who the best scandinavian goalkeeper is.

[duttend]

im sorry. i didnt think bergdølmo was that old but ur right he is but that doesnt make him bad and he really doesnt look that old. i think mellberg look pretty old so i just guessed that. but mjallby has not improved himself in the years. he use to be a good player before but nowadays hes not the same. same with anderson that also got a lots of injuries to struggle with besides (or because off) hes age. berg is getting old now but hes playing superb and are not in a bad shape. and a defender that is not old is john arne riise : and whos already considered as the best left defender in Europe (considered by ceveral sportpapers). lundekvam hasnt been as good as he was but in the last year he has improved(like scoring Norways 1000th goal and hes first goal for the NT). so... i could have replaced lundekvam with hoftun, basma or karadaz. and by the way, gif sundsvall is coming to trondheim and r going to play rosenborg tomorrow so then later on u maybe isnt so selfconfident ;) and mackem... then u havnt seen him much cuz he has more ballcontrol then any danish NT player.

[Mackem Roligan]

As much as I dont agree with duttend's choice of defenders I have to say that Sweden's defence looked dodgy in the world cup and as a team the Swedes are vastly overated.I still rate Peter Schmeichel as the best scandinavian keeper but in terms of ones still playing international football I would say Thomas Sorensen.

[Mackem Roligan]

nice joke about Carew there duttend

[duttend]

the rule----->øyvind leonardsen isnt screwed but u seem to be... hes a great runner and good at cross balls. maybe not star cuz hes old, but a former star.

and "the rule", i have seen u at several of forums now and all ur posts r nothing but thingz that prooves that u dont know anything bout football. i dont know, but if u r not that stupid that u seem to be, u must be kidding.

[duttend]

okey mackem. i rather take smeichel too but i just thought hedman was good cuz havnt let much balls in. sorensen is better too maybe but i havnt seen much of the scandinavian goalkeepers.

[duttend]

and wat defence would u like then?

[The Rule]

Originally posted by duttend
the rule----->øyvind leonardsen isnt screwed but u seem to be... hes a great runner and good at cross balls. maybe not star cuz hes old, but a former star.

and "the rule", i have seen u at several of forums now and all ur posts r nothing but thingz that prooves that u dont know anything bout football. i dont know, but if u r not that stupid that u seem to be, u must be kidding.

HE PLAYED FOR THE CLUB I SUPPORT FOR THREE YEARS,I SAW PLENTY OF HIM AND HE WAS CRAP,HE WENT TO SPURS AND WAS CRAP AND HE'S CRAP AT VILLA

I HAVE SEEN FROM SOME FORUMS THAT YOU AS TESTICULARLY CHALLENGED AND RATHER TRYT TO BUILD UP POOR PLAYERS BY SAYING THEY ARE STARS,YOU SHOULD TRY STICKING YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ASS TO SEE IF IT FITS.

I DARE YOU TO GO TO LIVERPOOL FORUM AND ANNOUNCE THAT LEOHARDSEN IS A STAR PLAYER FOR ANYONE

[duttend]

i said former star, so y dont u cut off ur dick and see if it fits in ur moth

[The Rule]

you said "norway (many stars like flo, solskjær, øyvind leonardsen, john arne riise, john carew, ronny johnsen, claus lundekvam, andre bergdølmo, eirik bakke, steffen iversen, vidar riseth, jo tessem, thomas myhre, henning berg and sigurd rushfelt).",these are all current players and the only stars in this group are Ole gunnar and Riise, the rest are either has-beens or just average

[The Rule]

and it wouldn't fit, it's far 2 big

[Mackem Roligan]

he was never a star accept it duttend and I would say Sami Hyppia and Patrick Andersson are the best central defenders.

[The Rule]

here's a go at the best team...........

Sorenson
graveson-hyypia-anderson-riise

rommedahl-ljundberg-Litmanen-lovenkrants

Gudjonsson and solskjaer


i would have picked Larsson but he's retired from the international scene.i know the midfield is very attack minded but hey,it's never going to happen anyway.and before someone roars "graveson is a midfielder"i've seen him play right-back for everton and hamburg(i think it was hamburg anyway)

[Mackem Roligan]

you have some good players in your team but Zlatan and Ljunbjerg are overated wheres Jon Dahl and Ebbe?and Gravesen isnt a right back hes a midfielder.

[Mackem Roligan]

sorry about mentioning Gravesen I didnt read that bit until it was too late.

[gnlvagosov]

Damn this poll has changed! last time I checked it, Sweden was with the most votes... now Denmark has 15 votes :cool:

[gnlvagosov]

Damn this poll has changed! last time I checked it, Sweden was with the most votes... now Denmark has 15 votes :cool:

[Mackem Roligan]

Its changed because people have seen sense at last, I cant wait until we next play Sweden their in for such a beating.

[duttend]

mackem- my team is not what IS the dreamteam, but its what i think and how i rate the players. but i made 2 mistakes; putting in 3 norwegian defenders(but atleast one is suppose to be there) and i totally forgot ebbe sand. I think that the swedish team is far overated and they prooves it by playing like they do now (in the Euro Qualifier). And the post by the rule with the mistake of gravesen(graveson in his opinion) just prooves how little he know about fotball.

[duttend]

Originally posted by The Rule
and it wouldn't fit, it's far 2 big

thats why u have had a such bad sucsess in football and sitting and complain of everything. its so big u cant run with it. u have to keep it in a wheel chair u always pull on when u r outside.

[duttend]

oh now i saw the notes too. but the rule; u cant have a back as a midfielder. its not offencive. its stupid. aspecially when its a dream team when u have thousends of other REAL midfielder to pick.

[The Rule]

Originally posted by Mackem Roligan
you have some good players in your team but Zlatan and Ljunbjerg are overated wheres Jon Dahl and Ebbe?and Gravesen isnt a right back hes a midfielder.

ZLATAN is one of the most talented young players in europe and freddie ljundberg is an incredible footballer and if anything he's under-rated.As i've said Graveson has played in defense for Everton in the past on a number of occasions

[The Rule]

Originally posted by duttend
oh now i saw the notes too. but the rule; u cant have a back as a midfielder. its not offencive. its stupid. aspecially when its a dream team when u have thousends of other REAL midfielder to pick.

you are an imbecile,thousands of other midfielders??from 4 national teams??yeah well done little man.and as i said before GravesEn has played right-back for Everton and done it well,i rate him highly and i want to know which of those midfielders is not good enough.actually your opinion doesn't matter i've just remembered your post on the valencia forum where you said "Valencia without Carew would be a team of losers",that shows how much you know about football,absolutley ***k all

[Mackem Roligan]

I stick by my opinion that Sweden and Ljunbjerg(only does well in a team as good as Arsenal but not for Sweden)are overated and I think in a dream team you should pick players in thier proper positions by putting Gravesen at right back youre not doing him justice.And Carew is a donkey.

[duttend]

it is thousends off midfielders in Scnadinavia... u dont have to put NT players there.
and mackem---- carew may have been a little cumsy in times, i have thought that too but in the last matches he have shown much greater ball control then in the past. i didnt MEAN that he had more tecniqe then any danish player, that was just a comparison. i have seen a lots of danish players with great tecniqe and have atleast as good tecniqe as carew. carew is young now and have much to go on and i think he would be alot better in the future too so thats why i got him as a reserve but i maybe should have him in the team too. it is 5 GREAT strikers in Scandinavia: carew, solskjær, thomason, sand and larsson so its difficult to take the 2 best.

[duttend]

clumsy i meant :p

[Mackem Roligan]

No duttend theres FOUR great strikers in Scandinavia Sand,Tomasson,Solksjaer and Larsson but I put Sand and Tomasson in the dream team because they play well together you cant guarantee that with the others.

[Mackem Roligan]

And If you want to see great technique take a look at Niclas Jensen's recent goal against Leeds A goal Carew could only dream about.

[duttend]

okay, thats up to u and not me. but i would like to have carew in the team as I have seen him almost every match he have played the last year and are very impressed, most of his strength (everyone must give up in duels with carew) and a tecnique i didnt know was that good. a bad thing about him is that he has bad sense of know excactly where he got his team-mates. Its either him or solskjær and then its thomason or sand, or one of those pairs together. larsson would proberbly fit with anyone if he should play but in the NT in the past, he didnt play as superb as in Celtic so I think his fitting very good with his team-mates in Celtic. Thomason is always at the right place at the right moment and are a great topscorer. Sand is a pretty complete striker and has the same talent as tomason. solskjær are very good in assist goal and makin them, he also are great on cross-balls, and are good on the head. up to u how u would concider it but i think carew is defenitly one of scandinavias 5 best strikers.

[Mackem Roligan]

ok we will agree to disagree on Carew then just hope my comments dont come back to haunt me when Norway play Denmark.Solksjaer is a very reliable players as he rarely misses a goalscoring oportunity.I dont agree that Sand and Tomasson are alike Sand is more of an opportunist striker a bit like Solksjaer but Tomasson has exellent movement and defenders find it difficult to track him and he is now an exellent finisher which is what he lacked when he was at Newcastle although playing with greedy Shearer didnt help.

[nisse]

looks to me like mackem has VERY high confidence on his danish squad,haha, i guess there´s not ONE nonedane that would fit in his scandie-allstar-team huh? Oh, exept mayby solskjear cuz they show him on tv every day???
I think carew is the perfect targetplayer whit his size, tecniq and he´s a good header. he would go perfect allong whit a player whit good vision,like solskjear, larsson for example.
zlatan lives for his dribblemoves but are to ego and are a poor header. and yes sweden are poor at the moment but that´s because we have two clowns at the weel. hopfully though we´ll meet danmark really soon and beat their asses!

[Mackem Roligan]

Yes I have very high confidence in the Danish team because we are playing well and winning games and have a manager with positive ideas unlike those two dull losers you have.And if you look at page 5 of this thread you will see I have 5 nondanes in my dream team but only one Swede because youre sh*t.And may I remind you that we are still the only Nordic nation to win a major trophy despite the fact that population wise Sweden is twice Denmark's size which in my opinion makes us the best.

[duttend]

norway has less population then denmark

[Mackem Roligan]

yes but Norway havent won anything

[nisse]

yes, congratulations to the eurocup back in 92 was it? way to go!
what this has got to do whit an allstarteam 03 beats me but non the less, well done!
hopefully nor,swe,den will all qualify to portugal in 04 and end up in the same group, then we´ll find out who´s got the best team. but in a way i hope we wont qualify so they can fire lagerbäck and söderberg.

[Mackem Roligan]

It has nothing to do with the dream team but the title of the thread is "best scandinavian country" which according to the fifa world rankings we are.Maybe the scandinavian championship should be brought back to decide this once and for all.

[lionheart]

Finland gets my vote ! :)

[lionheart]

Mackem Roligan, has there been a Scandinavian tournament with the best players ? Tthey should arrange a tournament every two yrs. with NTs of Finland, Sweden, Denmark & Norway.

[Mackem Roligan]

they used to have it years ago but it had to stop because of too many fixtures I doubt it will ever be brought back.

[The Rule]

Originally posted by duttend
it is thousends off midfielders in Scnadinavia... u dont have to put NT players there.
and mackem---- carew may have been a little cumsy in times, i have thought that too but in the last matches he have shown much greater ball control then in the past. i didnt MEAN that he had more tecniqe then any danish player, that was just a comparison. i have seen a lots of danish players with great tecniqe and have atleast as good tecniqe as carew. carew is young now and have much to go on and i think he would be alot better in the future too so thats why i got him as a reserve but i maybe should have him in the team too. it is 5 GREAT strikers in Scandinavia: carew, solskjær, thomason, sand and larsson so its difficult to take the 2 best.

thousands??from 4 leagues??you better think about that one mate.if each league has 20 teams,that 4x20=80,and if they all have 6 midfielders in their squads,that 80x6=480,a long way short of 1000 .

I like Gravesen,but i prefer the midfielders i picked in midfield so i found a place for him,adn after all it's not like there are any world-class right-backs in scandanavia.,Ljundberg is class whatever you think of him,ask anyone who sees him play every week.

and out of the five strikers you named Larsson and Solsjkaer are the best by a mile

John Carew is a mule and is one of the worst strikers in La Liga.

[Mackem Roligan]

I agree with what you said about Carew but the rest is a load of sh*t because wouldnt an actual right back such as Thomas Helveg be better than Gravesen in that position.Larsson and Solksjaer are not far better than Sand and Tomasson just look at the stats,Sand scored 9 in 10 games in the world cup qualifiers and in the finals Tomasson scored 4 in 4 and I think you would struggle to find a partnership with a better record than that and because I picked my dream team with how the players would work together in mind rather than just trying to fit my favourites in anywhere like you.And as for Ljunbjerg no I dont see him every week but as a Liverpool supporter I doubt you do either so your in no better position to comment than me.

[The Rule]

Originally posted by Mackem Roligan
I agree with what you said about Carew but the rest is a load of sh*t because wouldnt an actual right back such as Thomas Helveg be better than Gravesen in that position.Larsson and Solksjaer are not far better than Sand and Tomasson just look at the stats,Sand scored 9 in 10 games in the world cup qualifiers and in the finals Tomasson scored 4 in 4 and I think you would struggle to find a partnership with a better record than that and because I picked my dream team with how the players would work together in mind rather than just trying to fit my favourites in anywhere like you.And as for Ljunbjerg no I dont see him every week but as a Liverpool supporter I doubt you do either so your in no better position to comment than me.

Helveg is not a world-class full-back,never was and never will be.

Gravesen has played right-back,i like him as a player so i put him in my team,i repeat,MY TEAM.and that's what it is.It's my opinon of who are the best players in scandanavia.Gravesen can play right back,FACT.the four players i picked in midfield are attack minded,but all midfielders.FACT.Solskjaer and Larsson are the best strikers in scandanavia,but Larsson has retired so i picked Zlatan who is one of the most talented young players in Europe,i'd actually forgotten Gudjonsson,who i would pick with Solskjaer,i don't like Sand,he's one dimensional and any time i've seen him in the bundesliga,he looks average.i'd rate him as highly as i rate Flo.Tomasson is a good player,but one good world cup doesn't make a great player,he needs to do it on the big stage consistantly.Freddie Ljundberg is one of the best midfielders in the world,he's an incredible talent.you are biased against Swedish players,that's obvious by your selection of only 1 swede in your squad of 16.

[duttend]

LOL, u have to say that it is your opnion in this forum. otherwise u get slaughtered :D

sry if i was rude but from now on im going to say that it is my opinion too ;).
otherwise I actually agree pretty much with ur team there except that Id rather put in Tomason in Larssons place then Zlatan. Zlatan would only fit in a dream team with only one striker.

[duttend]

and another thing is that u dont need to have players from the top leagues (just look at frode grodås)

[The Rule]

I think Mhyre is better than Grodas,Grodas was poor at Chelsea and he must be nearly 40 at this stage.

hey duttend you should post on the Liverpool board as well,it's getting quiet good and the more people who post there the better

[The Rule]

Originally posted by duttend
LOL, u have to say that it is your opnion in this forum. otherwise u get slaughtered :D

sry if i was rude but from now on im going to say that it is my opinion too ;).
otherwise I actually agree pretty much with ur team there except that Id rather put in Tomason in Larssons place then Zlatan. Zlatan would only fit in a dream team with only one striker.

i'd actually pick Gudjonsson ahead of them all except Larsson,so Eidur and Ole is my new strike force,i changed it above.

[Mackem Roligan]

to the rule- how can you justify saying Helveg isnt in your team because he is not world class when you have picked Gravesen who is certainly not world class out of position.And Tomasson and Sand very rarly fail to score when their playing for Denmark which is all I am bothered about anyway you have a cheek calling any striker when your club has the useless Emile Heskey hes even worse than Carew!and one other thing im not biased against Swedes if I was I wouldnt have put any in my dream team I simply just dont think they are very good.

[The Rule]

Originally posted by Mackem Roligan
to the rule- how can you justify saying Helveg isnt in your team because he is not world class when you have picked Gravesen who is certainly not world class out of position.And Tomasson and Sand very rarly fail to score when their playing for Denmark which is all I am bothered about anyway you have a cheek calling any striker when your club has the useless Emile Heskey hes even worse than Carew!and one other thing im not biased against Swedes if I was I wouldnt have put any in my dream team I simply just dont think they are very good.

i'm not going to argue about Swedish players,Ljundberg is world-class and that's the end of it,i'll tell you what, go to the Arsenal forum and open a thread saying "ljundberg is not very good" and see what kind of response you get.

Helveg is a very poor player,Gravesen is a player i admire greatly and as i explained before i wanted him in my team,i'd picked my midfield first so i had no room for him there,he's played full-back for everton on many occasions and he played almost a whole season there for hamburg,and he is excellent in that position, so i picked him there.Sand is an average player who gets great service from his wide players and tomasson.Tomasson is a good player,but i'd like to see more of him,he's a sub at milan,some weeks he's not even on the bench.if he were playing regularly i might have picked him.

Heskey is the starting centre-forward for England who have far more quality strikers than any of the scandanavian countries,so he can't be too bad can he??scored against Denmark as well so i think you should be quiet

[Mackem Roligan]

Originally posted by The Rule
i'm not going to argue about Swedish players,Ljundberg is world-class and that's the end of it,i'll tell you what, go to the Arsenal forum and open a thread saying "ljundberg is not very good" and see what kind of response you get.

Helveg is a very poor player,Gravesen is a player i admire greatly and as i explained before i wanted him in my team,i'd picked my midfield first so i had no room for him there,he's played full-back for everton on many occasions and he played almost a whole season there for hamburg,and he is excellent in that position, so i picked him there.Sand is an average player who gets great service from his wide players and tomasson.Tomasson is a good player,but i'd like to see more of him,he's a sub at milan,some weeks he's not even on the bench.if he were playing regularly i might have picked him.

Heskey is the starting centre-forward for England who have far more quality strikers than any of the scandanavian countries,so he can't be too bad can he??scored against Denmark as well so i think you should be quiet

If Helveg is a poor player how come he has ended up playing for Milan and winning so many caps for his country.I admire Gravesen I also admire Peter Schmeichel greatly so maybe I will put him in my dream team as a striker saying as he has scored a few times!I agree Sand gets good service from the wingers but he still has to score the goals which he does very well isnt that a strikers job?well maybe not if you are Emile Heskey if you ask me he is a liability to England keeping out the likes of Alan Smith,Robbie Fowler,Kevin Phillips and James Beattie thats only three so England havent got that many great strikers if they did why would they pick the likes of Darius Vassell.

[The Rule]

Originally posted by Mackem Roligan
If Helveg is a poor player how come he has ended up playing for Milan and winning so many caps for his country.I admire Gravesen I also admire Peter Schmeichel greatly so maybe I will put him in my dream team as a striker saying as he has scored a few times!I agree Sand gets good service from the wingers but he still has to score the goals which he does very well isnt that a strikers job?well maybe not if you are Emile Heskey if you ask me he is a liability to England keeping out the likes of Alan Smith,Robbie Fowler,Kevin Phillips and James Beattie thats only three so England havent got that many great strikers if they did why would they pick the likes of Darius Vassell.

Schmeiceal has never played as a striker,so that's a ridiculous statement.Many poor players have played for top clubs and won many caps(gary neville for example).Helveg is a poor player and is no longer in the milan team(simic is first choice RB).

Owen,Vassell,Smith,Beattie,Phillips,Fowler and Defoe would walk into the denmark team.Heskey and Owen have been one of the best partnerships in England over the past 3 years.and Owen is more comfortable with Heskey than any1 else.and again heskey scored against Denmark and ran rings around your defense for the entire game so i don't think you(a dane) can criticise him

[Mackem Roligan]

Originally posted by The Rule
Schmeiceal has never played as a striker,so that's a ridiculous statement.Many poor players have played for top clubs and won many caps(gary neville for example).Helveg is a poor player and is no longer in the milan team(simic is first choice RB).

Owen,Vassell,Smith,Beattie,Phillips,Fowler and Defoe would walk into the denmark team.Heskey and Owen have been one of the best partnerships in England over the past 3 years.and Owen is more comfortable with Heskey than any1 else.and again heskey scored against Denmark and ran rings around your defense for the entire game so i don't think you(a dane) can criticise him

Correction Schmeichel has played as a striker in his early days back in Denmark.Many poor players have played for top clubs and won caps yes Heskey for example and Vassel and Defoe wouldnt even walk into the Denmark squad.

[The Rule]

Originally posted by Mackem Roligan
Correction Schmeichel has played as a striker in his early days back in Denmark.Many poor players have played for top clubs and won caps yes Heskey for example and Vassel and Defoe wouldnt even walk into the Denmark squad.

Schmeiceal has never played in a decent league as a striker then,and that was 20 years ago at least,Gravesen played right-back for consecutive games less than a month ago

Heskey scored against Denmark and that's all that matters,how many has sand scored in 2 W.C's,How many times has sand played in the CL??How many goals has he scored in one of europes major leagues(EPL,LA LIGA,SERIA A).

Vassell and Defoe would make the Danish squad easily and would have a great shot at being in the team.i forgot Rooney,he'd make the danish team as well.

[Mackem Roligan]

Originally posted by The Rule
Schmeiceal has never played in a decent league as a striker then,and that was 20 years ago at least,Gravesen played right-back for consecutive games less than a month ago

Heskey scored against Denmark and that's all that matters,how many has sand scored in 2 W.C's,How many times has sand played in the CL??How many goals has he scored in one of europes major leagues(EPL,LA LIGA,SERIA A).

Vassell and Defoe would make the Danish squad easily and would have a great shot at being in the team.i forgot Rooney,he'd make the danish team as well.

So if all that matters is Heskey scoring against Denmark you wont mind that hes only scored about two for Liverpool this season.Sand holds a world cup record for the quikest goal scored by a sub against Nigeria in 98 and was top scorer in the qualifiers scoring more than the likes of Larsson,Owen,Raul,Totti and of course the wonderful Heskey.I admit I would love Rooney to be Danish but im sure England would like one of our left footed players Jorgensen,Gronkjaer,Niclas Jensen and Lovenkrands we are spoilt for choice for a country with a poulation of only 5 million compare that to England's.

[Olesen10]

In the latest games for Denmark, Ebbe Sand hasn't been too god. It started in the WC where he, as a striker, didn't even score a goal. Our best player right now is definitely Jon Dahl Tomasson with some good games in Milan. And he is always good as the NT.

[Mackem Roligan]

Originally posted by Olesen10
In the latest games for Denmark, Ebbe Sand hasn't been too god. It started in the WC where he, as a striker, didn't even score a goal. Our best player right now is definitely Jon Dahl Tomasson with some good games in Milan. And he is always good as the NT.

I agree but I think that Jon Dahl plays so well for Denmark because of his good understanding with Sand.

[Olesen10]

Yeah. They support each other well, and has a good teamwork.

[The Rule]

Originally posted by Mackem Roligan
So if all that matters is Heskey scoring against Denmark you wont mind that hes only scored about two for Liverpool this season.Sand holds a world cup record for the quikest goal scored by a sub against Nigeria in 98 and was top scorer in the qualifiers scoring more than the likes of Larsson,Owen,Raul,Totti and of course the wonderful Heskey.I admit I would love Rooney to be Danish but im sure England would like one of our left footed players Jorgensen,Gronkjaer,Niclas Jensen and Lovenkrands we are spoilt for choice for a country with a poulation of only 5 million compare that to England's.

jensen,gronkjaer aand jorgensen are all right footed.Heskey scored again last night.

[Mackem Roligan]

No youre wrong ask any Dane and thay will tell you that Niclas Jensen and Martin Jorgensen play on the left and Gronkjaer can play on either side.

[Olesen10]

Jorgensen is most likely to play right wing, but can also play centre mid.
What goes for Niclas Jensen: He took over Jan Heintze during the WC and has played left back since then.
Jesper Gronkjaer also likes to play left wing, but he hasn't got so much playing time under Morten Olsen. I don't think Olsen like him too much. But Gronkjaer is good.

[Mackem Roligan]

when he is playing well Gronkjaer can be a nightmare for defenders to deal with but in my opinion but he doesnt show it often enough,Jorgensen is a very talented player but is injured too much so I would have Lovenkrands in the team.

[The Rule]

Originally posted by Mackem Roligan
No youre wrong ask any Dane and thay will tell you that Niclas Jensen and Martin Jorgensen play on the left and Gronkjaer can play on either side.

jorgensen plays on the right for his club,Jensen has been a sub for the last few charlton games but he does play on the left,he's better in the centre though,they are both right-footed,and so is jesper.they are all-right footed players,pires is right-footed as well so playing on the left does mean they are left footed.

Gronkjaer must be the most frustrating player in the world to play with,he has great pace and lots of ability but he can't cross a ball to save his life.

[Mackem Roligan]

Originally posted by The Rule
jorgensen plays on the right for his club,Jensen has been a sub for the last few charlton games but he does play on the left,he's better in the centre though,they are both right-footed,and so is jesper.they are all-right footed players,pires is right-footed as well so playing on the left does mean they are left footed.

Gronkjaer must be the most frustrating player in the world to play with,he has great pace and lots of ability but he can't cross a ball to save his life.

I have seen Jorgensen play on the left for Denmark and so does Gronkjaer,I said Niclas not Claus Jensen you fool and I find Gronkjaer a good player but like you say frustrating at times but when youve got the likes of Jorgensen and Lovenkrands aswell its not a problem.

[Jun Yun]

Yea bcos of Jorgensen's injury proneness and Gronkjaer's inconsistency, I think it's just a matter of time before Lovenkrands claims his place in the national team. I'll be waiting!

[Mackem Roligan]

And he can play as a a striker aswell if we need him to.

[The Rule]

Originally posted by Mackem Roligan
I have seen Jorgensen play on the left for Denmark and so does Gronkjaer,I said Niclas not Claus Jensen you fool and I find Gronkjaer a good player but like you say frustrating at times but when youve got the likes of Jorgensen and Lovenkrands aswell its not a problem.

jorgenesen is far better on the right than on the left,but's best in the centre,but he can play on the left,Gronkjaer is better on the right as well.sorry bout the Jensen mix-up.Niclas is a left-back,and not as good as Bridge,Cole or Konchesky so he wouldn't make the england squad never mind the team.Lovenkrands is gonna be great if he goes and plays in a real league and not that crap in Scotland.He'll be far better up front,you lot could have the new Henry on your hands if he develops like he should.

[Mackem Roligan]

Originally posted by The Rule
jorgenesen is far better on the right than on the left,but's best in the centre,but he can play on the left,Gronkjaer is better on the right as well.sorry bout the Jensen mix-up.Niclas is a left-back,and not as good as Bridge,Cole or Konchesky so he wouldn't make the england squad never mind the team.Lovenkrands is gonna be great if he goes and plays in a real league and not that crap in Scotland.He'll be far better up front,you lot could have the new Henry on your hands if he develops like he should.

Jorgensen and Gronkjaer usually play on the left for Denmark because Rommedahl plays on the right,Jensen has scored the goal of the season so far and I hope youre right about Lovenkrands.

[Neptune]

Firstly "The Rule", you dont know what your talking about....... i think danish people know alot more about there team and players than u do.......so shut ur mouth, and listen, while jorgensen is a naturally right footed player, and does play on the right for udinese, he has played for denmark on both sides......the reason he plays on the right for udinese is because the coach has a left winger therefore plays jorgensen on the right

secondly claus jensen plays for charlton, niclas jensen for man city......get it right fool

as for gronkjaer, he is an amazing player and ripped apart the likes or thuram, lizarazu, montero, diao, and the other players he came up against in the 2002 WC, and despite the fact england beat us 3-0, he made ashley cole look like a fool, beating him 90% of the time.......the only reason we didnt beat yous, is because we werent playing smart.......for some reason we continued to play the balls in the air when crossing, something u said gronkjaer cant do, which is just bulls**t......which ferdinand and campbell loved, because heading is there specialty.

and as far as the rest of the team is concerned, we have quality all over the field........btw.....didnt australia beat england 3-1? oh yeh thats right, what happened there? and id love to see a full strength australian team play a full strength denmark team.......2 excellent teams, who i feel will not just qualify for 2006 in germany, but they will both make an impact.......

and as far as scandinavian dream teams......heres one for ya

First 11 :-

Sorensen(Sunderland)
Helveg(AC Milan)
Laursen(AC Milan)
Henriksen(Panathinaikos)
N.Jensen(Manchester City)
Rommedahl(PSV)
Gravesen(Everton)
C.Jensen(Charlton)
Gronkjaer(Chelsea)
Tomasson(AC Milan)
Sand(Schalke 04)

Bench :-

Kjaer(Aberdeen)
Bogelund(PSV)
Poulsen(Schalke 04)
Michaelsen(Panathinaikos)
Jorgensen(Udinese)
Lovenkrands(Rangers)
Madsen(Wolfsburg)

hehehe :P NOW THATS A DREAM TEAM!!

WE R RED, WE R WHITE, WE R DANISH DYNAMITE!!!!!

[Mackem Roligan]

Originally posted by Neptune
Firstly "The Rule", you dont know what your talking about....... i think danish people know alot more about there team and players than u do.......so shut ur mouth, and listen, while jorgensen is a naturally right footed player, and does play on the right for udinese, he has played for denmark on both sides......the reason he plays on the right for udinese is because the coach has a left winger therefore plays jorgensen on the right

secondly claus jensen plays for charlton, niclas jensen for man city......get it right fool

as for gronkjaer, he is an amazing player and ripped apart the likes or thuram, lizarazu, montero, diao, and the other players he came up against in the 2002 WC, and despite the fact england beat us 3-0, he made ashley cole look like a fool, beating him 90% of the time.......the only reason we didnt beat yous, is because we werent playing smart.......for some reason we continued to play the balls in the air when crossing, something u said gronkjaer cant do, which is just bulls**t......which ferdinand and campbell loved, because heading is there specialty.

and as far as the rest of the team is concerned, we have quality all over the field........btw.....didnt australia beat england 3-1? oh yeh thats right, what happened there? and id love to see a full strength australian team play a full strength denmark team.......2 excellent teams, who i feel will not just qualify for 2006 in germany, but they will both make an impact.......

and as far as scandinavian dream teams......heres one for ya

First 11 :-

Sorensen(Sunderland)
Helveg(AC Milan)
Laursen(AC Milan)
Henriksen(Panathinaikos)
N.Jensen(Manchester City)
Rommedahl(PSV)
Gravesen(Everton)
C.Jensen(Charlton)
Gronkjaer(Chelsea)
Tomasson(AC Milan)
Sand(Schalke 04)

Bench :-

Kjaer(Aberdeen)
Bogelund(PSV)
Poulsen(Schalke 04)
Michaelsen(Panathinaikos)
Jorgensen(Udinese)
Lovenkrands(Rangers)
Madsen(Wolfsburg)

hehehe :P NOW THATS A DREAM TEAM!!

WE R RED, WE R WHITE, WE R DANISH DYNAMITE!!!!!

The rule or should I say the fool likes to think he knows everything about everything when in reality he knows nothing.

I am actually English but because im A Denmark fan people give me hard time,so I was delighted to see Australia teach them a lesson,just a pity we couldnt do it in the World Cup.Nice dream team by the way.

[Ary]

Denmark :D :D :D

[Alan Hudson]

Iceland is also part of Scandinavia, didnt u have geography in ur school?

I agree,that is a litlle away, but it doesnt matter.

What about Turkey - europe? Israel - europe? Kazachastan - europe? Azerbaijan - europe?



Both of you are wrong. Strictly gegraphically speaking the Scandinavian peninsula consists of just Sweden and Norway, but together with the 3 other countries the make up The Nordic Countries, although then Finns are more distantly related to the other 4 and their language is of a very different origin to the other ones (which are quite alike).

Got it!!!?

[lionheart]

The Scandinavian peninsula runs through Finland as well. LEARN YOUR GEOGRAPHY !!!!!!

[lionheart]

Both of you are wrong. Strictly gegraphically speaking the Scandinavian peninsula consists of just Sweden and Norway, but together with the 3 other countries the make up The Nordic Countries, although then Finns are more distantly related to the other 4 and their language is of a very different origin to the other ones (which are quite alike).

Got it!!!?

Neither are we distantly related to the other Nordic countries !!!!! Finland is much closely related culturally, genetically and historically to Sweden than the other countries. Finland has two OFFICIAL languages : Finnish & Swedish. Finnish is also the original language of the whole of Scandinavia and northern Germany ! The Viking homelands also existed in Åland & the Turku islands.

Finland also has a 320,000 strong Finnish-Swedish community which is bigger than the whole population of Iceland. I am a Finnish-Swede myself.

This is a common misconception that you have.

[the fumbler]

Iceland is also part of Scandinavia, didnt u have geography in ur school?

I agree,that is a litlle away, but it doesnt matter.

What about Turkey - europe? Israel - europe? Kazachastan - europe? Azerbaijan - europe?

Sorry to tell you this, but Scandinavia is: Denmark, Norway and Sweden...no Finland and no Iceland!
However; The nordic countries include all...and perhaps the faroe islands...but Im not sure about that though..

[the fumbler]

Neither are we distantly related to the other Nordic countries !!!!! Finland is much closely related culturally, genetically and historically to Sweden than the other countries. Finland has two OFFICIAL languages : Finnish & Swedish. Finnish is also the original language of the whole of Scandinavia and northern Germany ! The Viking homelands also existed in Åland & the Turku islands.

Finland also has a 320,000 strong Finnish-Swedish community which is bigger than the whole population of Iceland. I am a Finnish-Swede myself.

This is a common misconception that you have.


Finnish cant be the original language of scandinavia!! Simply because the language came from asia!! As did the hungarian language...

[lionheart]

the fumbler , go to www.dictionary.com and write in Scandinavia and you will see a detailed definition.

Finnish was the original language of all of Scandinavia and north Germany. Learn your history before you challenge my opinion. The Sami speak a language similar to Finnish and they were here far before anyone else. They were forced to the north when new people immigrated to this region. The languages that existed here in the past were closely related to Finnish.

[the fumbler]

the fumbler , go to www.dictionary.com and write in Scandinavia and you will see a detailed definition.

Finnish was the original language of all of Scandinavia and north Germany. Learn your history before you challenge my opinion. The Sami speak a language similar to Finnish and they were here far before anyone else. They were forced to the north when new people immigrated to this region. The languages that existed here in the past were closely related to Finnish.

I did learn something today! Scandinavia is the peninsula! I didnt know that...a bit embarrasing you might say.
I dont want to challenge your opinion on this one, Id like to know the facts if indeed Im wrong! And I like to think I know my history...I just dont know much about yours...
However, there is to my knowlegde no proof that the saami came from south and not from east! I looked at a saami homepage, and thats what they said. As far as I can see, on that page, the only reason why that has been a theory (again; theory) is because there are scandinavian words in the saami language. But that doesnt mean that they are the original inhabitants of all Scandinavia and north Germany.
Try looking here: http://www.itv.se/boreale/samieng.htm

I got no doubt that saami is an old language and that the sames have deep roots in the original Scandinavia (without Denmark), but I think they might as well have come from the east.
How did we get to discuss this on a football page anyway?? :D

[arminius]

Which One is The Best Soccer Playing Scandinavian Country?
currently I'd say sweden, also historically it would be sweden or denmark,although denmark won euro92, sweden have produced more consistency in major championships,it would be a close call either way.I'll pick sweden because they never lose to the english,not since 1968,and any one who beats england is a friend of mine.

[Gennadios]

Sweden or Denmark

[ULTRAS HAPOEL]

Denmark

Because the experience , because the quality of the players .

up to date , Denmark is the country with the most good soccer in scandinavia .

[davor_suker]

sweden

[PrAvI HrVaT]

I said Sweden and the runner up would be Denmark.

[Ceres]

If we are talking the past 20 years or so, then surely Denmark :

WC-finals past 20 years :

1986 : Denmark in the 2nd round, No Sweden or Norway
1990 : Sweden qualify, No Denmark or Norway
1994 : Sweden in 3rd place, Norway qualify, No Denmark
1998 : Denmark in the Quarter final, Norway in the 2nd round, No Sweden
2002 : Denmark and Sweden in the 2nd round, No Norway.

Results :
Sweden : One 3rd places, one 2nd round, qualified 3 times
Denmark : One Quarter final, Two 2nd round's, qualified 3 times
Norway : One 2nd round, qualified 2 time
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Euro finals past 20 years :

1984 : Denmark in the Semi final, No Sweden or Norway
1988 : Denmark qualified, No Sweden or Norway
1992 : Denmark win the Championship, Sweden in the Semi final, No Norway
1996 : Denmark qualified, No Sweden or Norway
2000 : Denmark, Sweden and Norway qualified
2004 : Denmark and Sweden in the Quarter finals, No Norway

Results :
Denmark : 1 Championship, 1 Semi final, 1 Quarter final, qualified 6 times
Sweden : 1 semi final, 1 Quarter final, qualified 2 time (+ 1 as host)
Norway : qualified 1 time...

.

[Kroldrup]

If we are talking the past 20 years or so, then surely Denmark :

WC-finals past 20 years :

1986 : Denmark in the 2nd round, No Sweden or Norway
1990 : Sweden qualify, No Denmark or Norway
1994 : Sweden in 3rd place, Norway qualify, No Denmark
1998 : Denmark in the Quarter final, Norway in the 2nd round, No Sweden
2002 : Denmark and Sweden in the 2nd round, No Norway.

Results :
Sweden : One 3rd places, one 2nd round, qualified 3 times
Denmark : One Quarter final, Two 2nd round's, qualified 3 times
Norway : One 2nd round, qualified 2 time
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Euro finals past 20 years :

1984 : Denmark in the Semi final, No Sweden or Norway
1988 : Denmark qualified, No Sweden or Norway
1992 : Denmark win the Championship, Sweden in the Semi final, No Norway
1996 : Denmark qualified, No Sweden or Norway
2000 : Denmark, Sweden and Norway qualified
2004 : Denmark and Sweden in the Quarter finals, No Norway

Results :
Denmark : 1 Championship, 1 Semi final, 1 Quarter final, qualified 6 times
Sweden : 1 semi final, 1 Quarter final, qualified 2 time (+ 1 as host)
Norway : qualified 1 time...

.

Denmark also made it to the Semifinals in either 1968 or 1964. Can't remember well...

Ole Madsen was the top scorer of that Euro :)

[arminius]

Denmark also made it to the Semifinals in either 1968 or 1964. Can't remember well...

Ole Madsen was the top scorer of that Euro :)
but sweden made the world cup final in 1958.

[nachi88]

denmark i think, though right now they are slightly weak. they were euro champions in 92. had an intresting match against brasil in wc98 , which could have gone either ways. sweden will be a close second.

[Petvin]

but if you think what is best league . Maybe Norway or I dont know what is the best league in skandinavian :confused: :confused:

[Petvin]

Finland is the worst in here this is really sad to say because i am from Finland, but it's true Finland have only A.Niemi , P.Saarine , Jaaskelainen and 2 or 3 others I don't remember :D :dead: .

[Petvin]

Finland is the best

[arminius]

Finland is the worst in here this is really sad to say because i am from Finland, but it's true Finland have only A.Niemi , P.Saarine , Jaaskelainen and 2 or 3 others I don't remember :D :dead: .
hey your still 6 votes ahead of iceland, jari littmanen was a pretty good finnish player.

[arminius]

Finland is the best
your #1 in scandinavia when it comes to F1 drivers,motor rally drivers and also ski jumpers.

[Anti-Fenerbahce]

Used to be Sweden, now its Denmark..but best in Scandinavia doesnt say much really. :ronaldo: :nerd:

[Anti-Fenerbahce]

Finland is the best

HAHAHA lol That wuz funny man hehe :ronaldo:

[Petvin]

oh yes that was really a joke, finland is not the best so it was joke. :D really... Heh We have good motorsport mans and girls :D My hobby is Go-Karts :D :p

[Petvin]

1-4 years ago Finland Sami Hyypia was second in the world best defenders votes. We have 2-3 talent in. here Jeremenko Junior and those.... You dont know but I know, Like in Sweden there is soooooo mutch peaple from France and those football countries so there can be more like this I tell you :D He was born in france. play football from 3 years old to 15 years old in junior team. Then he moved with her family to Sweden and Start to play football in swedish team and then he was swedish player[this was only a suppose]. Like Larsson my mind her dad or mum was from other country. in Sweden is 100 times more peaple from other countries so they have players like larsson and those... In finland is shefki Kuqi and Jeremenko junior and those others I dont know. They play in europe. That was story about finnish football and swedish football.. :D [ Please no comment because this was only my mind, but not yours ]

[Petvin]

I love motorsport. I go to Italy drive in "winter holiday" with go-karts

[JayeMTee88]

SWEDEN!!! c'mon swedes, we can whip it out and beat denmark in the poll!!! :D


(yes, i know i'm reviving an old thread, but this is actually my first time down into the scandinavian section)

[Kroldrup]

Sweden!! HAHAHAHA

We are red, we are white, we are Danish Dynamite!!!

You'll see! FCK will win the Royal League!!!

[myggan]

You'll see! FCK will win the Royal League!!!

I laugh even more to you, how big chances is it that Malmö FF will win against RBK? We could no more win RL so It doesn´t matter if RBK beats us.

RBK-IFK in the final which RBK would win!

F*CK FCK and their stupid polices!!!

[Albanessi_$]

Sweden!! HAHAHAHA

We are red, we are white, we are Danish Dynamite!!!

You'll see! FCK will win the Royal League!!!

Hey Brøndby is the best scandinavian team :D

I think Denmark and Sweden are best scandinavian teams also Norway is getting better..

[myggan]

Norway is getting better..

Norway got one great team, Rosenborg and one team that is ok and on their way up, VÃ¥lerenga.

Sweden and Denmark are tight!

[Kroldrup]

HAHAHAHAHA

On your face, myggan!!!!

[wolverine]

Sweden and then Denmark. Records favor Sweden. They've been runners up and 3rd placed in WC. The Swedes always had some good players.

[wolverine]

Sweden and then Denmark. Records favor Sweden. They've been runners up and 3rd placed in WC. The Swedes always had some good players.

[ARBANITAI]

I would say that Denmark was the best scandinavian country in football also in europe from 1992 there where they won euru-cup
and til 5-6 years more, that was the time Denmark
had the best european players in their National team
as like Laudrup Brothers very famous players that time which brought denmark to the euro 92 champions...
Now the danish Nt isnt the best yet there are players in quit old age and arent in their best form so I can actually say that Sweden is on the top scandinavian soccer at the moment... :worried: :cap:

[wolverine]

I would say that Denmark was the best scandinavian country in football also in europe from 1992 there where they won euru-cup
and til 5-6 years more, that was the time Denmark
had the best european players in their National team
as like Laudrup Brothers very famous players that time which brought denmark to the euro 92 champions...
Now the danish Nt isnt the best yet there are players in quit old age and arent in their best form so I can actually say that Sweden is on the top scandinavian soccer at the moment... :worried: :cap:

Yeah... I wud say that Denmark was the best during the time of the Laudrup Bros and Schmiechel. Too bad that they cudn't make it to the '94 finals. But since 1992 the Swedes are always havin some great names like brolin, dahlin, andersson, raveneli and the capt in '94 (I wunder what these guys r doin now.). Now they've Ljunberg, Larsson and Ibrahimovic. Their keeper Issakson is also pretty good.

Norways best would be either Ole Guna Soljeair or Torre Ande Flo (My vote for the former). Dunno any players from Finland & Iceland xcept Hyppia and Gudjonson resp.

[Kroldrup]

Denmark has been regarded as one of Europe's elite for many years! How can you guys say that they aren't?? Just because they have had injury problems lately and missing key players??

Denmark is in a ***king tough group (European Champions Greece, 3rd WC placed Turkey, and top shape Ukraine). Sweden and Norway are not.

Btw, Denmark has made it to the quarterfinals of the WC three times, won silver & bronze in the Olympics many times in the past, made it to the EC semifinals twice and won it once.

[purger]

My vote goes to Sweden as today's strongest scandinavian country. But if I'm looking 15 years backwards then it is by any doubts Denmark.
Norway and Finland aren't that good to be consider seriously so it's either Sweden or Denmark

[ARBANITAI]

Denmark used to be Now is Sweden and Norwegia

[Milos_]

sweden all the way

[martin_petrov17]

In order of skill
1. Sweden/Denmark
2. Norway
3. Finland
4. Iceland

[Ivan7637]

Obvious...

1.Sweden
2. Denmark
3. Norway
4. Finland
5. iceland

[MarieL]

I find it kind of disturbing that my country is called scandinavian when it isn't. Technically Scandinavia consists of Sweden, Norway and Denmark too I guess. Island and Finland aren't scandinavian countries. We're part of Fennoscandia, but not Scandinavia.
Anyways, I'd say Denmark is the best, just because I like them more than Sweden, naturally.

[RaulMadrid7]

I was born in Sweden and I say Sweden is the best Scandanavian country. :thumbsup: :D

[wolverine]

I find it kind of disturbing that my country is called scandinavian when it isn't. Technically Scandinavia consists of Sweden, Norway and Denmark too I guess. Island and Finland aren't scandinavian countries. We're part of Fennoscandia, but not Scandinavia.
Anyways, I'd say Denmark is the best, just because I like them more than Sweden, naturally.

Well there's an xplanation :)

The usage and meaning of the term 'Scandinavia' outside Scandinavia is somewhat ambiguous:

Finland and Iceland are sometimes counted as parts of Scandinavia.

In a German mindset, Norway, Sweden and Finland are usually included, but Denmark is not.

In a British mindset, Norway, Sweden, and Denmark are usually included, often with the addition of Iceland and Finland.

And in my mindset Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland were included :D

[wolverine]

My vote goes to Sweden as today's strongest scandinavian country. But if I'm looking 15 years backwards then it is by any doubts Denmark.
Norway and Finland aren't that good to be consider seriously so it's either Sweden or Denmark

But Sweden has been more consistent of the two. Denmark had a good team during the period of Laudrup bros and Schmiechel. They finished as runners-up in '54. After that they had a good team in the mid-90s comprising of Brolin, Dahlin, Andersson and Ravenelli when they finished 3rd. Now also they've a good team with the likes of Zlatan, Ljunberg, Larsson (dunno if he retired).

[Jose Reyes]

its either sweden or denmark. norway has deproved alot recently...

my vots goes to sweden. from those high scoring games in WC qualifying shows us that they are good. while denmark is now struggling to qualify for WC

[Dutchfan]

RIGHT NOW it's a tough call (for me, anyway) between Denmark and Sweden. In the last two decades I'd probably pick Denmark, but historically overall there's really no question about it: Sweden, by far!!

[bugsinmypants]

i voted for Sweden cause i think they play the best football but Denmark are good also.. i never liked Norway... boring football and fu'ed up arrogant attitudes and they all have a fetish for english teams :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Kroldrup]

RIGHT NOW it's a tough call (for me, anyway) between Denmark and Sweden. In the last two decades I'd probably pick Denmark, but historically overall there's really no question about it: Sweden, by far!!

Are you nuts? Do you have any idea who won the Euro 1992 and the Confederations Cup in 1995?

[jeppeweb]

lol, so easy question.. right now ofcourse its Sweden!!

[Ifada]

Im Swedish and have to say its a close call between us and Denmark.

Both our teams are somewhat underrated internationally in my opinion.

Of cource we know Denmark won the Euro92 but our 3rd place at WC94 is as good.
For the moment I feel we are somewhat stronger on paper and a little more consistent but in the field it could probably go any way.

[ARBANITAI]

sweden is a bit better than Denmark for the moment I think, Sweden is holding the second place in the qualifying Wc group 8 and have chance to get the first spot too plus denmark have less chance to qualify.

[Majid]

Sweden

[SE7E]

Can anyone tell what happened to Brolin and Dahlin??? When did they stop playing, what they doin' now, etc. Thanks!!!

OH! Sweden, Norway and Finland in this order.

[wolverine]

Can anyone tell what happened to Brolin and Dahlin??? When did they stop playing, what they doin' now, etc. Thanks!!!

OH! Sweden, Norway and Finland in this order.

I myself had the same question (abt Kennet Anderrson and Ravenelli also).

However I do remember reading something abt Dahlin some months back.
I've dug out the link for u.

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/050519/1/3o34.html

Its a pretty good series they also had one on Bodo Illigner among others.

By the way u missed Denmark in ur list :)

[Majid]

denmark

[SE7E]

I myself had the same question (abt Kennet Anderrson and Ravenelli also).

However I do remember reading something abt Dahlin some months back.
I've dug out the link for u.

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/050519/1/3o34.html

Its a pretty good series they also had one on Bodo Illigner among others.

By the way u missed Denmark in ur list :)Thanks bro.

[SE7E]

denmarkWhen I say Sweden, Norway and Finland in this order is because geographically I don't consider Denmark a Scandinavian country. But you got a good choice there...

[Majid]

When I say Sweden, Norway and Finland in this order is because geographically I don't consider Denmark a Scandinavian country. But you got a good choice there...


Denmark is Scandinavia too

[SE7E]

Denmark is Scandinavia tooDepends.

[sinan1903]

It was a tough pick, but I went with Sweden on this one. Definitely it is between Sweden and Denmark. Usually Denmark is considered part of Scandinavia, but I had never heard of Iceland being Scandinavian.

[ASG]

well i think Sweden is the best and denamrk is 2nd the rest are the rest

[havok]

IMO sweden... :p

[Kroldrup]

When I say Sweden, Norway and Finland in this order is because geographically I don't consider Denmark a Scandinavian country. But you got a good choice there...

Denmark is Scandinavian.

[Ronni]

imo it's not one EC that makes from Denmark a stronger football nation than Sweden. Sweden has always achieved better results.
After both a long gap until Norway comes.

[The Bacras]

I`ve voted for Sweden. Not only the football is great. The fan culture too

[senfoo]

1. Sweden
2. Denmark
3. Norway

Norway has many talented young payers, and in a few years I do think Norway will be a better team than Denmark. Sweden will still be the best scandinavian team, even though Norway won against them in June this year.

So Sweden has the best nationalteam in Scandinavia, But Norway has the best clubs. Rosenborg, which this year won 3-1 against Olympiacos in CL, struggled to keep their place in Tippeligaen. And Tromso, which knocked Galatasaray out of the UEFA-cup, ended as number 8. And Viking which made number 5 in the Tippeliga, won 1-0 against Monaco a few weeks ago. The quality of the norwegian Tippeligaen is far better than the other scandinavian leagues.

I think many will be suprised when they see the Norwegian team "Start" in the UEFA next year. They have many great players who has joined the norwegian national team this year: Bård Borgersen, Alex Valencia, Fredrik Stromstad, Kristoffer Haestad and Marius Johnsen.

Start, Vålerenga, Rosenborg, Malmo, Viking, Djurgaarden and Kobenhavn is by my opinion the best teams in Scandinavia.
4 of them are from Norway

You'll have to excuse my bad english

[Gegen_USA]

Geographically speaking, Scandinavia is the Scandinavian penisular consisting of Sweden and Norwy only; culturally speaking, however, and this is the normally accepted definition, Scandinavia is mostly a cultural region consisting of the scandinavian countries made up by scandinavian people i.e. Denmark (Faroe islands incl.), Norway, Sweden and Iceland. Greenland is not culturally nor geographically a part of Scandinavia although its political ties are pretty close to Denmark just like Finlands ties to Scandinavia). The Nordic countries are Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Iceland.

[GWH]

Can anyone tell what happened to Brolin and Dahlin??? When did they stop playing, what they doin' now, etc. Thanks!!!

OH! Sweden, Norway and Finland in this order.

Tomas Brolin has done a few things, but his main thing is the restaurant/bar that he owns in central Stockholm called "Undici" means 11 in Italian.

[Ceres]

imo it's not one EC that makes from Denmark a stronger football nation than Sweden. Sweden has always achieved better results.

Just to get a few fact straight...

Sweden have never achieved better results than Denmark at a single Euro final in the past...

Euro finals :
1960 : Den and Swe Did not qualify
1964 : Denmark in the Semi final, No Sweden
1968 to 1980 : Den and Swe Did not qualify
1984 : Denmark in the Semi final, No Sweden
1988 : Denmark qualified, No Sweden
1992 : Denmark win the Championship, Sweden in the Semi final
1996 : Denmark qualified, No Sweden
2000 : Denmark and Sweden qualified
2004 : Denmark and Sweden in the Quarter finals

Results so far:
Denmark : 1 Championship, 2 Semi finals, 1 Quarter final, qualified 7 times
Sweden : 1 semi final, 1 Quarter final, qualified 2 times (+ 1 as host)

However, Sweden have done much better than Denmark at the WC finals, though mainly in the 50's and 70's...

To be more up to date.... Then Denmark had qualified for the past 5 Euro and WC finals in a row, before missing the WC-06. By reaching the WC-06 Sweden have now qualified for the past 4 Euro and WC finals in a row...

Norway has many talented young payers, and in a few years I do think Norway will be a better team than Denmark. Sweden will still be the best scandinavian team, even though Norway won against them in June this year.

So Sweden has the best nationalteam in Scandinavia, But Norway has the best clubs..... The quality of the norwegian Tippeligaen is far better than the other scandinavian leagues.

Start, Vålerenga, Rosenborg, Malmo, Viking, Djurgaarden and Kobenhavn is by my opinion the best teams in Scandinavia.
4 of them are from Norway

1) Have a look at the latest FIFA World ranking and you will find that Denmark (13) is in the lead closely followed by Sweden (14), with Norway (38) trailing far behind...

As for the quality of young talents then the pattern is slightly different. Denmark is ranked 4 in the official UEFA U21 NT rankings, while Norway is ranked 14 and Sweden 17, so Denmark is clearly a level better than both Sweden and Norway at the top youth level, also proven at the latest U21 Euro championship :

http://www.uefa.com/Competitions/Under21/Standings/index.html

2) The 4 most wealthy football clubs with the best squads in Scandinavia at this moment is with no doubt the official Scandinavian Champions FC København (Turnover 2004/05 = € 60 million), Brøndby (Turnover 2004 = € 20 million), Rosenborg (Budget 2005 = € 15 million) and Malmø FF (Turnover 2004 = € 9.4 million)...

Rosenborg have had the best Scandinavian EC results the past 15 years followed by Danish Brøndby, but Rosenborg now seem to be on their way down, not qualifying for next seasons EC and also having trouble keeping their EC ranking...

Brøndby is performing just around their usual level, but the huge economical advantage will surely soon make FC København the leading club in Scandinavia, not only as Scandinavian Champions in the RL but also in the EC... It can only be a matter of time.. Malmø have just managed to get a huge sponsorship with IMG and seem to be able to add between €7m and €12m annually to the around € 9.4 million turnover they had last season, placing them financially in the same league as Brøndby and Rosenborg (Though still be far behind FC København)...

UEFA team ranking 2006 (top 4) :
60 Rosenborg (58 last season)
96 Brøndby (114)
131 Viking Stavanger (157)
138 FC København (143)

IFFHS Club World Ranking 2005 (top 4) :
66. Brøndby IF 141,0
95. Vikings FK Stavanger 120,0
155. FC København 98,5
190. Vålerenga Oslo 88,0
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UEFA Country (league) Ranking 2005 :
19 Norway
23 Denmark
26 Sweden

IFFHS strongest National League of the World 2005:
27. Denmark 430,5
33. Norway 404,0
55. Finland 313,0
73. Sweden 280,0
.

[SE7E]

Denmark is Scandinavian.http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=486848&postcount=209

[SE7E]

Tomas Brolin has done a few things, but his main thing is the restaurant/bar that he owns in central Stockholm called "Undici" means 11 in Italian.Thanks bro.

[SE7E]

...

[besiktas1903]

in terms of better performance in the international arena, it's got to be sweden with denmark coming close way ahead of norway.
but in case they were to play each other, it would be a toss-up between sweden, denmark and norway, since their styles are similar with physical plays becoming important, although swedes have the more of the share from talented player pool of this area.

[penalty_20]

Sweden and then denmark

[GWH]

Thanks bro.

Not a problem and I didn't mind Brolin. He had a few ventures selling shoes among other things, he released a song.

Back to the question. The Norwegians have the best economy, but now they are behind the Danes and the Swedes in football, especially with the caveman style the Norwegians have.

[Zlatan Rules]

I am between Sweden and Denmark.
Both good.
And Iceland is part of Scandinavia? Not sure about that.

Well both teams are good.

Well i knew you were dumb but wtf your really messed up, italianboy!

I dont know if i should laugh or cry :D

Ofcourse iceland is a part of scandinavia, didnt you have georaphic or history back in school?

Cheers!

[Viking_81]

Sweden is No.1, something that even Danish media agree on. This question is quite relevant now, considering Sweden and Denmark are in the same group for the EC 2008 qualifier. While I have respect for the Danish team and think they're strong, I feel confident Sweden won't miss Euro 2008.

[Centarfor9]

I have to say Denmark based upon their scores and players thay have produced.
(and yeah Ibrahimovic is BOSNIAN and not Swedish)

[martin_petrov17]

Yea and Larsson is from some island...so there you go, your best two players aren't even yours.

[GWH]

Larsson's father is from Cape Verde.

[cphdude]

Sweden is No.1, something that even Danish media agree on. .
Really? What medias are you talking about?

[Crazy Swede]

Sweden is the best by far.

[ARBANITAI]

jaja bare fordi sverige gjord det til vm så tænker i er god elle hvad :lol:

nah lol, i think sweden is ok they actually made it to wc as first scandinavian country, but I think Denmark will have an much better team in euro 08 as they are having more younger players in the sqaud, Søren Larsen is a new star plays in schalke, Poulsen moved to Ac milan so things are getting better and so i believe denmark will for sure have an much organising team next season..

[Port Wine]

My vote goes to Iceland. :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :scared:

When I think of the best in Scandinavia, Sweden automatically comes to mind. However, Denmark has silverware, Sweden doesn't. It´s quite close in my opinion.

I didn't vote for anyone.

[Antelainen]

Sweden, of course.

[CambriaFan]

Sweden have a history of playing very entertaining football. And since Henrik left the 'other' Glasgow club a few years ago and stopped tormenting rangers i can now honestly say he's is one of the greatest forwards ever.

[Needs More Rope]

Well i knew you were dumb but wtf your really messed up, italianboy!

I dont know if i should laugh or cry

Ofcourse iceland is a part of scandinavia, didnt you have georaphic or history back in school?

Cheers!

Actually, your wrong and he's right. Despite what 98% of the world thinks and teaches, neither Iceland OR Finland are actually part of Scandinavia. They just get lumped in as Scandinavia due to simple the ignorance of rest of the world. They aren't the only places which get wrong lumped to an entity, but probably the ones most consistently wrong.

Scandinavia is just the 3 crown countries (and for the record, I am a Cartographer)

[ferenc]

sweden

[Vic]

easy Sweden ofcourse!