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otto
09-15-2002, 10:22 PM
People seem confused as to which country's players are ''better'' by mixing up who gets signed to European teams and who actually plays better. Those are two separate things. Once you realize that football has become big business, you will also realize that just because you play better doesn't mean you will get signed to bigger teams in Europe, as is the case with Korean players. If everything was based soley on the skills of the players, one would expect that more Korean players would have been signed to European teams especially after the recent World Cup.

However, the reality is that, aside from player's skills, it's the perceived MARKETABILITY of the player that ultimately goes to decide who will get signed. In the case of Asian teams, even though Korea consistently has better players, Japan and China get more players signed to bigger leagues such as the Premier League. This means that while the amazing performance of Korea at the World Cup has raised the perceived value of Asian players overall, in the end, European teams are more likely to sign Japanese or Chinese players.

Much of this has to do with historical circumstances in that Japan and China have been well-known Asian countries in Europe for hundreds of years before anyone ever heard of Korea (due in large part to Korea's secretive policies for centuries). Chinese and Japanese restaurants are more popular internationally for that same reason. Japan's economy has become one of wealthiest in the world. China has the advantage that they have the world's largest population. Korea, on the other hand, was devastated by war in the early fifties, and had to recover from scratch since then. To be more specific, in the case of Japanese players, Japanese products are considered to have more value and profitability up to now in the global market than Korean products. So the European clubs think more about how much money they will make from T-shirts sold in Japan. They also assume that (like Japanese cars, electronics) Japanese players will be more popular and marketable than Korean players. Not only that, players like Inamoto, Nakata, Suzuki...etc. were partly helped by wealthy Japanese corporations who were willing to sponsor the European teams that would sign them. Money talks. In the case of China, the main reason Chinese players are getting signed to big leagues like the Premier League is because they are much cheaper than Korean or Japanese players. The other reason is that, in the case of England, there is a larger Chinese community (meaning larger consumer base) and more familiarity with Chinese culture within England in general, which translates into perceived marketability.

Korean players have long suffered from their perceived lower market value than Japan as well as being undercut by China who are willing to accept the cheapest prices to get their players into Europe. Certainly, this is not helped by the now infamous dirty play by Italy's Perugia who potentially endangered the career of Jung-Hwan Ahn even after (or should I say, precisely because of) his spectacular display during the World Cup.

Fortunately, things are changing for the better. Anderlecht's Ki-Hyun Seol has been the leading scorer in the Belgian league after scoring 6 goals in the first 4 consecutive games of the season. Jong-Gug Song has already made an impressive debut for Feyenoord. More Korean players have made their way into Europe such as Duri Cha at Bielefed (Leverkusen) and Eul-Yong Lee at Trabzonspor. Guus Hiddink's PSV Eindhoven are said to be making plans for adding Korean players, namely Nam-Il Kim.

Ultimately, I hope the success of more Korean players in Europe finally gains the respect for Asian players as a whole in the world of football, instead of being tokenized as marketable products and number of T-shirts sold. Also, my hope is that the nationalistic rivalries between Asian football countries should take heed from the wonderful camaraderie developing between Jong-Gug Song and Shinji Ono at Feyenoord. May their love of football and friendship help the success of Asian football and help people gradually overcome jingoistic nationalism to the point that this game can truly be called a beautiful game.

Roberto Abrego
09-21-2002, 06:42 AM
just like Li Weifeng and Li Tie

both of them were signed by Everton beacuse of Evertonīs new sponsor that is a chines company...

Robledo
11-29-2002, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
just like Li Weifeng and Li Tie

both of them were signed by Everton beacuse of Evertonīs new sponsor that is a chines company...

Li Weifang never gets a game for Everton. He was only bought to help Lie Tie settle into life in England.

I must admit, I'm impressed with the Korean at Feyenoord, and he's a a regular in the team, as is Seol at Anderlecht. I think he was one of the top scorers in the Belgian league last season with Antwerp.

What about Ahn? Is the Perugia President still punishing him, for scoring Korea's winner in against Italy ? If he's still not playing for this reason, that's very stupid

Looney
11-30-2002, 12:40 PM
Ahn plays for Jubilo in Japan now. Ahn was fired before he even met up with the Korean squad so all that talk about his goal was just BS.

Korea may have been devastated by war in the 50's, but China had civil war, communist rule, cultural revolution and bad publicity. Although it must be said that most Japanese players bar Ono and Nakata have been bought just to shift t-shirts and attract audience, whereas Korean and Chinese players are mostly bought for playing time as well, like the belgian league guy, Ahn, Sun Jihai, Chen Yang and Li Tie. Now that's Japan's economy is into it's 2nd decade of decline clubs will start buying more Korean and Chinese players.

son
01-19-2003, 10:35 PM
face it guys..8 or 9 times out of 10...koreans who go to european clubs have been sucessful...the koreans just have better talent period....but they don't get the opportunity because korea is more or less unknown or not attractive (as in marketing...we all know japan is the richest in asia) japanese go to european clubs MOSTLY because of the money the clubs make off them...just look at inamoto...he NEVER even played a match in england before the 2002 world cup..what a joke...

OAnimal
01-23-2003, 02:46 PM
Come on, but you can not deny, that Inamoto, Ono and Nakata play an important role in their respective teams.

Roberto Abrego
01-23-2003, 06:58 PM
yes i agree the japanese are very good players...and in some of their teams they r key players......that doesnt happen with the Koreana nd Chinese players....well exept for Seol ki Hyon

LeeXun
02-03-2003, 02:27 PM
In fact,Li wei feng is a good player.But I think his coach didn't give him some chances to show his ture ability.
And Sun Ji Hai is quite a good player,now he is not bad.

Eyal Berkovic
02-23-2003, 03:23 AM
Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
yes i agree the japanese are very good players...and in some of their teams they r key players......that doesnt happen with the Koreana nd Chinese players....well exept for Seol ki Hyon Sun Jihai is a key player at Manchester City!

koreafan
03-08-2003, 06:05 PM
Dutch league is like the only league that are dying to get Korean players
After Hiddink taught Korean soccer, Dutch teams have bought so many players there are 4 players now Song, Kim NAm Il ( the guy that sweeped Figo) and Park Ji sung and Lee, Yong pyo ( good free kicker )

son
03-29-2003, 01:56 PM
^^^


actually you might be right but korean players go to dutch league on purpose so they can gain experience before they go to la liga, premier, or serie A....i mean korean players gets offers from the big leagues anyways but i think its a good idea that you get experience first...

Catenaccio
03-31-2003, 03:15 PM
First of all, we must extinguish the cynicism and negativity everytime we witness a far eastern player playing for a big European club. Since as well as opening the doors to the forever growing Asian market, they are also decent players in their own right. Li Tie and Junichi Inamoto have demonstrated that they have what it takes in a very physical English league.
As for Li Wei Feng, he actually had a better World Cup 02 than Li Tie, but just wasn't given the chance.

I sincerely hope more and more Koreans arrive in the big European leagues, not just the Dutch and Belgian ones. Hopefully Seol will be the first to move to maybe the Premiership, guys like Lee Chun Soo also deserve a big move.

Song and Park, as well as Lee Young Pyo also deserve some recognition. Hope Takahara and Cha do well also in the Bundesliga.

Jeegeh77
06-02-2003, 02:27 AM
yeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!

I heard that Korea beat Japan with a final score of 1-0.

Despite the fugly weather conditions in Tokyo, Korea's team excelled!

Dae Han Min Guk ---> One nation under God!!!