2002/2003 FC Barcelona Squad

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I started this thread so we can talk generally about the squad.

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Looks like Overmars is getting fit. :D

http://www.soccerage.com/en/13/f7196.html

[Roberto Abrego]

nice to hear good news :)

[Azerkid]

How should our line up look?

[Roberto Abrego]

GK:Enke

DF:Puyol
DF:F.de Boer
DF:P.Andersson

MF:Luis Enrique
MF:Riquelme
MF:Overmars
MF:Xavi
MF:Rivaldo

FW:Kluivert
FW:Saviola

[Azerkid]

4-5-1

---------------------Enke----------------

De boer--------Andersson-----Rezieger----Puyol

Luis E.-----------Riquelme-------------Overmars--

-------------Rivaldo----------Saviola-------------

-----------------------Kluivert----------------------

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Haruna Babangida is going to get dual citizenship as he is now a Nigerian citizen and only needs some papers from the Spanish Embassy in Nigeria to get his Spanish Citizenship. This should help him earn a spot in the squad this season. He scored 23 goals for Barca B last season. He's only 18 and I think LVG is going to give him a few chances to show us what he's got.

[Robledo]

Add Mendieta to that line up who is on the verge of sealing his move (and possibly D'Allesandro-or was that just the usual speculation?)

Still, having Mendieta/Rivaldo/Riquelme will be quite an attacking line up. Can they all play in the same side? Someone will have to give way , perhaps losing Overmar's blistering pace? or Luis Enrique?

LVG has an interesting dilemma

[Roberto Abrego]

It will be very good to have Riqulme, Rivaldo and Mendieta together at Barca!

[Bier]

Here's my line-up:

Enke-Puyol,Frank,Christanval,Cocu(I am sure VG will play him as left back ;) )-Xavi-Luis Enrique,Riquelme-Saviola,Kluivert, Rivaldo

[Robledo]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Haruna Babangida is going to get dual citizenship as he is now a Nigerian citizen and only needs some papers from the Spanish Embassy in Nigeria to get his Spanish Citizenship. This should help him earn a spot in the squad this season. He scored 23 goals for Barca B last season. He's only 18 and I think LVG is going to give him a few chances to show us what he's got.

So much for that freezemr/Alulgrana ! LVG has given him a free transfer! He's also released 3 other young players - Trashorras,David Sanchez and Dani Tortolero.

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=100232&Title=%4C%6F%75%69%73%20%72%65%6C%65%61%73%65%73%20%66%6F%75%72%20%42%61%72%63%61%20%42%20%73%74%61% 72%73

Are they not good enough?Why are the good young players being let go , such as Mikel Arteta and now Trashorras (who has impressed me).

[Juanele]

Originally posted by Robledo


Are they not good enough?Why are the good young players being let go , such as Mikel Arteta and now Trashorras (who has impressed me).

Van Gaal was looking at around 11 players from the youth/B squad to reinforce his squad. He felt that these players would be better served to get another team in the first division rather than go back to the third division (which they would've played at with Barça B).

In way it is good for those players to develop as professionals but Barcelona is losing some resources.

Now only 4 players from the youth squad are training with the senior team. They are Navarro (lateral), Víctor Valdés (portero), Motta (centrocampista), and Iniesta (centrocampista). Iniesta is the great hope but Navarro is probably the greatest need of the team.

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Originally posted by Juanele


Van Gaal was looking at around 11 players from the youth/B squad to reinforce his squad. He felt that these players would be better served to get another team in the first division rather than go back to the third division (which they would've played at with Barça B).

In way it is good for those players to develop as professionals but Barcelona is losing some resources.

Now only 4 players from the youth squad are training with the senior team. They are Navarro (lateral), Víctor Valdés (portero), Motta (centrocampista), and Iniesta (centrocampista). Iniesta is the great hope but Navarro is probably the greatest need of the team.

Juanele has it right. I've posted about this on the rumours/transfers thread. For most of them, it looks like loan deals which is good as we'll still "own" them. Not only is the issue about playing time and what's best for the players and their development, but it's also about their wages and how they affect Barca's current financial situation.

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The squad was presented to the fans today. Over 50,000 people including Lasse Olesen turned out. :D Mendieta and Riquelme got the biggest ovations. Each player spoke to the crowd. Luis Enrique spoke on behalf of the entire squad. LVG spoke as well and said while he couldn't promise titles, he could promise hard work and dedication. The fans were then treated to a friendly match between the squad.

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are travelling with the rest of the squad to Switzerland. Overmars is getting better while Andersson still has a ways to go.

[Azerkid]

New Squad W/OUT Riva :(


------------------------Enke--------------

--De boer---- Andersson---- Reizeger----Puyol---

---------Luis E.---------Riquelme--------Mendieta---

------------------Saviola--------Overmars------

-------------------------Kluivert----------------

The Squad isn't the same without Riva :(

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Originally posted by Azerkid
New Squad W/OUT Riva :(


------------------------Enke--------------

--De boer---- Andersson---- Reizeger----Puyol---

---------Luis E.---------Riquelme--------Mendieta---

------------------Saviola--------Overmars------

-------------------------Kluivert----------------

The Squad isn't the same without Riva :(

I'm sorry, but Rivaldo's gone and we just need to get over it. Truth be told, I'm almost happy cause he moans too much anyway. It's about TEAM, not RIVALDO!!!

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


I'm sorry, but Rivaldo's gone and we just need to get over it. Truth be told, I'm almost happy cause he moans too much anyway. It's about TEAM, not RIVALDO!!!

I know its just when you look at the squad you see Riva is missing and its not the same.

[Azerkid]

The thing i am worried about is we dont have a player to actually replace his influnce and skills.

[nismo]

i reckon rivaldo leaving won't have a big impact as compared to figo's defect, cause gaspart's acquired some quality names as opposed to last season which was mediocre IMO excetp for saviola;)

[Roberto Abrego]

yes it will...cause allot of fans love Rivaldo!!!

[nismo]

perhaps i was being a bit vague
i meant rivaldo leaving wouldn't affect the team onfield and their attacking threat that much
eversince figo left, i could tell that barca missed his prescence on the right flank, but with medieta and riqueleme, i'm sure they can make up for rivlado's departure

get it???

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Originally posted by nismo
perhaps i was being a bit vague
i meant rivaldo leaving wouldn't affect the team onfield and their attacking threat that much
eversince figo left, i could tell that barca missed his prescence on the right flank, but with medieta and riqueleme, i'm sure they can make up for rivlado's departure

get it???

Gotcha, even though you were talking to Azer.

[nismo]

So what are the squad numbers for barca??
are they released yet???

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Originally posted by nismo
So what are the squad numbers for barca??
are they released yet???

Dunno. Probably soon.

[nismo]

who do you reckon gonna take the legendary number 10 now that rivaldo not here??
top candidate is riquelme prolly

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Originally posted by nismo
who do you reckon gonna take the legendary number 10 now that rivaldo not here??
top candidate is riquelme prolly

Sounds right.

[nismo]

i hope LVG gives gerard a chance, he's had a shite as season for 01/02 with injury. he was amazing at his time with valencia, i hope he doesn't have the same fate as simao

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Originally posted by nismo
i hope LVG gives gerard a chance, he's had a shite as season for 01/02 with injury. he was amazing at his time with valencia, i hope he doesn't have the same fate as simao

Me too. He does keep getting injured though. He'll have to fight for a place.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by nismo
perhaps i was being a bit vague
i meant rivaldo leaving wouldn't affect the team onfield and their attacking threat that much
eversince figo left, i could tell that barca missed his prescence on the right flank, but with medieta and riqueleme, i'm sure they can make up for rivlado's departure

get it???

I hope so ;)

[nismo]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Me too. He does keep getting injured though. He'll have to fight for a place.
i know this is gonna sound bullish, but i have a feeling this will be a year of comebacks in all leagues across europe, from ronaldo to mendieta, they'll be numerous stars wanting to resurrect their careers, and i think this will be the season where we'll see rejuvenated players.

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Originally posted by nismo

i know this is gonna sound bullish, but i have a feeling this will be a year of comebacks in all leagues across europe, from ronaldo to mendieta, they'll be numerous stars wanting to resurrect their careers, and i think this will be the season where we'll see rejuvenated players.

You're right about Ronnie (if he stays off the treatment table and off those Brazilian beaches) and Mendigol. I really think Mendigol will shine with Barca.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by nismo

i know this is gonna sound bullish, but i have a feeling this will be a year of comebacks in all leagues across europe, from ronaldo to mendieta, they'll be numerous stars wanting to resurrect their careers, and i think this will be the season where we'll see rejuvenated players.

I think Ronnies 8 goals in WC have started his rejvenation, and same with Mendigol's perfrmance in WC, eventhough his Spaniards were wrongly cheated out of the tourament :(

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Iniesta and Sergio are helping Spains' U-19 team in Norway at the U-19 European Championships. Iniesta scored the other day too. If they win their next game, they are in the final.

[nismo]

anyone from the barca youth team in that U-19 squad Zul???

and to your previous post, i reckon medieta will have a tough time, reaching his peak form, after so much time frozen out of action apart from the WC, it'll take a lot to regian lost top game. he should look to ronaldo as an example :D

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Originally posted by nismo
anyone from the barca youth team in that U-19 squad Zul???

and to your previous post, i reckon medieta will have a tough time, reaching his peak form, after so much time frozen out of action apart from the WC, it'll take a lot to regian lost top game. he should look to ronaldo as an example :D

We'll see about Mendieta. I disagree cause he got in camp from the beginning and his fitness should be good by the start of the season. Also, I think he'll have a major role under LVG too and so he will have the opportunity to shine. It's like Gerard and LVG have said, Mendigol runs the whole game and keeps running. If he gets back to the form he had with Valencia, he'll be great.

Yeah, two players from the youth ranks and both are making an impact. Sergio and Iniesta. I don't know too much about Sergio, but Iniesta is a Xavi/Guardiolaesque player. A real playmaker. He scored in a game and in the same game set up another goal. A possible future Barca player is in the squad as well, Reyes of Sevilla.

[nismo]

there's no doubt mendieta will reach full fitness and form, but IMO it will takely longer but surely, for him to become the best player like he was at valencia.
put in this way, if he can go thru the first few games with rave reviews about his performance, then in no time will we see the new mendieta, i'm just concerned about the mental aspect of the game instead of physical. being out of the game for an X amount of time cant be good for self-esteem or confidence

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Originally posted by nismo
there's no doubt mendieta will reach full fitness and form, but IMO it will takely longer but surely, for him to become the best player like he was at valencia.
put in this way, if he can go thru the first few games with rave reviews about his performance, then in no time will we see the new mendieta, i'm just concerned about the mental aspect of the game instead of physical. being out of the game for an X amount of time cant be good for self-esteem or confidence

I agree with you. Hopefully he'll get a lot of match time in the preseason. I think if he does well in preseason and at least feels comfortable in the side, he'll be on his way.

[nismo]

yeah true that
pre-season will be vital for mendieta to re-established himself in barca, and prepare himself again for the a new challenege in la liga.
i wonder how valencia fans are going to react seeing their former-fav son play against them.
shouldn't be as bad as campbell in a north london derby though:D

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Originally posted by nismo
yeah true that
pre-season will be vital for mendieta to re-established himself in barca, and prepare himself again for the a new challenege in la liga.
i wonder how valencia fans are going to react seeing their former-fav son play against them.
shouldn't be as bad as campbell in a north london derby though:D

Yeah, I think the season with Lazio will be a bit of a buffer. They'll still be upset though. Not like Barca's fans when El Traitor Luis Figo left, but upset all the same.

[nismo]

i don think laziale supporters would have much sentimental feeling towards medieta, but it would be uneasy nevertheless for valenica fans to see him play in a barca jersey

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They have beaten Germany for the U-19 European Championship. Two Barca youngsters really impressed for Spain during the tournament. Iniesta and Sergio did very well for Spain. I would look for them to possibly make an impact this preseason as they are currently in form and certainly at a higher level of match fitness than the rest of their teammates.

[Juanele]

Sergio is an attacking midfielder, Azulgrana. Iniesta did control the midfield very well. His passes are still a bit lazy but hopefully he put some more zip on them in the future.

Also there is no chance for Reyes to go to Barcelona, especially with Van Gaal there. If anything Reyes would go to Arsenal or Juventus.

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Originally posted by Juanele
Sergio is an attacking midfielder, Azulgrana. Iniesta did control the midfield very well. His passes are still a bit lazy but hopefully he put some more zip on them in the future.

Also there is no chance for Reyes to go to Barcelona, especially with Van Gaal there. If anything Reyes would go to Arsenal or Juventus.

Reyes to Barca was just a rumour I read. I don't think they have the funds for him anyway. Why do you think LVG wouldn't want him? According to Moratti, they'll be buying more Spanish players. Also, LVG has been paying close attention to La Liga since his last spell as Barca boss.

[Juanele]

I have two teams that I follow, Sevilla and Barcelona. So in this case I know a good deal. First off Barcelona already have too many players that are similar to Reyes. I think Reyes is better than Saviola and would've been a cheaper buy but that is in the past. Saviola is a Reyes clone (or vice-versa) and it would be redundant to have both on the same team.

If there was any other team I'd want to play for it would be Barsa. As it is I'm glad he'll stay at Sevilla.

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Originally posted by Juanele
I have two teams that I follow, Sevilla and Barcelona. So in this case I know a good deal. First off Barcelona already have too many players that are similar to Reyes. I think Reyes is better than Saviola and would've been a cheaper buy but that is in the past. Saviola is a Reyes clone (or vice-versa) and it would be redundant to have both on the same team.

If there was any other team I'd want to play for it would be Barsa. As it is I'm glad he'll stay at Sevilla.

Cool! I didn't know you supported Sevilla. So you think Reyes is the real deal huh? I've not seen him play, but i've only read good things. Sounds like he had a brilliant season last year.

[Juanele]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Cool! I didn't know you supported Sevilla. So you think Reyes is the real deal huh? I've not seen him play, but i've only read good things. Sounds like he had a brilliant season last year.

My whole family is from Sevilla. I also have some relatives that live in Barcelona. I was raised with supporting Sevilla (I even had a baby suit in Sevilla garb, lol). I have supported Barcelona a little more recent, since 1982. But there I also have relatives that live there (due to forced migration after the Civil War).

About Reyes, he is definitely the real deal. If he can stay healthy (which has been a problem) he has the ability to become one of the top players in the World.

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Originally posted by Juanele


My whole family is from Sevilla. I also have some relatives that live in Barcelona. I was raised with supporting Sevilla (I even had a baby suit in Sevilla garb, lol). I have supported Barcelona a little more recent, since 1982. But there I also have relatives that live there (due to forced migration after the Civil War).

About Reyes, he is definitely the real deal. If he can stay healthy (which has been a problem) he has the ability to become one of the top players in the World.

So do you still live in Espana? That whole post Civil War era must have been terrible. Then every country (especially mine) has it's bad moments. Have you ever been to Barcelona? What's it like?

[Robledo]

Luis Enrique has been elected Barca captain , after a vote by the players. I'd imagine Cocu would be vice captain

[Juanele]

Originally posted by Robledo
Luis Enrique has been elected Barca captain , after a vote by the players. I'd imagine Cocu would be vice captain

Correct. And Carles Puyol is the third captain.

[Juanele]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


So do you still live in Espana? That whole post Civil War era must have been terrible. Then every country (especially mine) has it's bad moments. Have you ever been to Barcelona? What's it like?

I live in the USA right now. After I finish school here (about another year) I'll look for a job in Spain. I have been to Barcelona several times and it's great. It's my third favorite Spanish city after Sevilla and Granada.

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Originally posted by Juanele


Correct. And Carles Puyol is the third captain.

Cool. Puyol for me is a natural to eventually become Barca captain. Enrique is a great choice for now. Icons.com is the site that has many of the Dutch contingent at Barca's websites. It gives the players' opinions on their teammates. From what i've read, Enrique is popular and well liked. He's also very experienced and been with the club for some time.

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Enrique's a good choice. Puyol would be my choice for the future along with Xavi. They are two players I hope that are around for a long time.

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Originally posted by Juanele


I live in the USA right now. After I finish school here (about another year) I'll look for a job in Spain. I have been to Barcelona several times and it's great. It's my third favorite Spanish city after Sevilla and Granada.

Where in the US? Barcelona does sound cool from what i've heard. Have you been to Madrid? Is that nice?

[Juanele]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Where in the US? Barcelona does sound cool from what i've heard. Have you been to Madrid? Is that nice?

I live in Colorado. I've also been to Madrid many times. If you like night life it's a great place. Otherwise I didn't care for it much. It is a good staging point for a lot of the nearby towns/cities like Toledo and Segovia though.

[Bier]

I've as well been to Barcelona several times and as a child sometimes at Mallorca. Hey I am german in the end ;) :D ... though I hate the germans primitives at Mallorca, but that's another theme, I hate Germany in general ... at least I got my first Barça shirt at Mallorca (Romario 10) since that day I am a die hard Blaugrana. iberian football is my big love since I also support Benfica and have a tender spot for loads of other spanish sides and some portuguese ... and I cheer for both national teams.
Well, back to the main topic. I am totally impressed by Barcelona. It's one of the most beautyful cities I know (alonside Lisboa and London) ... especially Gaudi helped with his great buildings to make the city a thing very special. But nothing beats the Camp Nou. :star: Well maybe the old Da Luz but that's crushed down now. :(
Ehrrr whatever the only beaultyful city we germans have is Berlin ... though my hometown Leipzig is not bad either but we have many Nazi-fu(kers here in the east. :(

[nismo]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Enrique's a good choice. Puyol would be my choice for the future along with Xavi. They are two players I hope that are around for a long time.
That's if no other clubs steals Puyol away from us!!
but puyol would be a suitable captaIN that's if he stays for that long. puyol is a phyiscal player like roy keane, so IMO he would be good at captaining (is that even a word??) the boys since hes a battler with attitude.

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Originally posted by nismo

That's if no other clubs steals Puyol away from us!!
but puyol would be a suitable captaIN that's if he stays for that long. puyol is a phyiscal player like roy keane, so IMO he would be good at captaining (is that even a word??) the boys since hes a battler with attitude.

Even though Puyol still hasn't been able to agree an extension to his current Barca deal, he says he won't court offers from Man Utd or Arsenal. This is great news to me and I think it really shows his committment to the club. I think he should be rewarded for his play, professionalism and loyalty with a big contract. He's gonna be one of the greats!

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Sir Alex Ferguson has said that United were after Enke in the past as a future replacement to Fab Barthez. Enke turned down United because he didn't want to ride the bench. SAF said the player is young and talented and that Barca have made a great signing. High praise from Fergie!

[Juanele]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Sir Alex Ferguson has said that United were after Enke in the past as a future replacement to Fab Barthez. Enke turned down United because he didn't want to ride the bench. SAF said the player is young and talented and that Barca have made a great signing. High praise from Fergie!

But Ferguson has never been good at judging talent. He does well with the players that grew up with the club but overall he does average to poor at judging players. If Barça had gone through with the Toldo deal last year we wouldn't be going through this goalkeeper merry-go-round.

[Robledo]

I've just heard that some of the Barca players have been unhappy at being played out of position by LVG, namely Riquelme,Medieta and Saviola.

Haven't we seen this before with LVG? With a certain Rivaldo. Hopefully it's just a storm in a teacup, and it will blow over soon.





Barcelona skipper Luis Enrique has fired a warning shot at teammates in defence of new trainer Louis van Gaal.
Several players have already complained publicly they are being employed out of position by the new Dutch coach. Javier Saviola, Juan Roman Riquelme and Gaizka Mendieta have all expressed their frustration in recent days.

But Enrique hit back last night: "To me it seems positive to play in several positions.

"I have done it an infinite number of times throughout my career and believe that it has benefited me.

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Originally posted by Juanele


But Ferguson has never been good at judging talent. He does well with the players that grew up with the club but overall he does average to poor at judging players. If Barça had gone through with the Toldo deal last year we wouldn't be going through this goalkeeper merry-go-round.

Who has Fergie been bad at judging?

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This from the official Barca website:

Shirt numbers for the new season

Wednesday 7 August 2002 11:50 (BCN)

The list of Spanish League and Champions League shirt numbers for Barca players was published this morning. The three newcomers are: Riquelme number 10, Mendieta number 17 and Enke number 25. There are also a few changes from last season: Carles Puyol number 5 instead of 24, Christanval number 12 instead of 17, and Motta number 31 instead of 28.

The final list is as follows:

1 Bonano
2 Reiziger
3 Frank de Boer
4 Andersson
5 Puyol
6 Xavi
7 Saviola
8 Cocu
9 Kluivert
10 Riquelme
11 Overmars
12 Christanval
14 Gerard
15 Rochemback
17 Mendieta
18 Gabri
19 Dani
21 Luis Enrique
22 Geovanni
25 Enke
26 Víctor Valdés
31 Motta
33 Dani Tortolero
34 Iniesta
35 Fernando
36 David Sánchez

[Roberto Abrego]

yes I had already notice this but I thought that Riquelme wasnt going to use the #10 beacuse he said that some days ago...

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
This from the official Barca website:

Shirt numbers for the new season

Wednesday 7 August 2002 11:50 (BCN)

The list of Spanish League and Champions League shirt numbers for Barca players was published this morning. The three newcomers are: Riquelme number 10, Mendieta number 17 and Enke number 25. There are also a few changes from last season: Carles Puyol number 5 instead of 24, Christanval number 12 instead of 17, and Motta number 31 instead of 28.

The final list is as follows:

1 Bonano
2 Reiziger
3 Frank de Boer
4 Andersson
5 Puyol
6 Xavi
7 Saviola
8 Cocu
9 Kluivert
10 Riquelme
11 Overmars
12 Christanval
14 Gerard
15 Rochemback
17 Mendieta
18 Gabri
19 Dani
21 Luis Enrique
22 Geovanni
25 Enke
26 Víctor Valdés
31 Motta
33 Dani Tortolero
34 Iniesta
35 Fernando
36 David Sánchez

Dani Tortolero and David Sanchez are new to me. Anyone know their positions or how good they are???

[Bier]

I dunno much about em as well except I read that tortolero must be very talented.

[nismo]

Originally posted by Bier
I dunno much about em as well except I read that tortolero must be very talented.
as with all barca youth players :D

whats happening to babangida BTW??
back in B team or loaned out to some club??

[Bier]

The latest thing I've heard from Baba was that he's going to be loaned to second division side and last years Copa Catalunya-Champion Terassa but that is far from being sealed yet for any contract reasons ... so he's still searching. Just like the fans`all time favourite De La Pena :(

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Originally posted by Bier
The latest thing I've heard from Baba was that he's going to be loaned to second division side and last years Copa Catalunya-Champion Terassa but that is far from being sealed yet for any contract reasons ... so he's still searching. Just like the fans`all time favourite De La Pena :(

Yeah, and I heard Terassa aren't to pleased with Baba either.

Too bad about De La Pena. Espanyol just turned him down. He's one of those players I'd bring back to Barca if I were in charge. He'd barely get to play for me, but I'd just want him in the squad. He could start every Catalan Cup match and play in the Copa Del Rey.

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Anyone know what's up with Nano? He was such a hot property that Arsenal and other clubs were after a few years back. I think it was LVG who gave him a call up to the big squad too, but I don't think he's played since then. I've heard he's considered to be Rivaldoesque.

[Juanele]

Nano was let go by the club (as far as I know) to try and find better competition than 3rd division (which Barça B is in). Same story as Babangida and some of the other youth players.

De La Peña was not wanted by Van Gaal when VG first took charge. He is too "beach" style for a coach like VG. Great vision and passing but too free flowing for a systems coach. After he went to Lazio he just had one problem after another. It doesn't help that he won't accept a pay cut to play for some other teams. A shame because he was truly a talent that had more promise than Raúl of Real Madrid.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juanele
Nano was let go by the club (as far as I know) to try and find better competition than 3rd division (which Barça B is in). Same story as Babangida and some of the other youth players.

De La Peña was not wanted by Van Gaal when VG first took charge. He is too "beach" style for a coach like VG. Great vision and passing but too free flowing for a systems coach. After he went to Lazio he just had one problem after another. It doesn't help that he won't accept a pay cut to play for some other teams. A shame because he was truly a talent that had more promise than Raúl of Real Madrid.

I think the younger players were "let go" in the sense that they are on loan. They still belong to Barca the way I understand it.

Yeah, I wish De La Pena could settle somewhere nice. You think he had more promise than Raul??? :confused: I think Raul is absolutely amazing. I don't care if he plays for Real. I'd to see him play for Barca.

[Juanele]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


You think he had more promise than Raul??? :confused: I think Raul is absolutely amazing. I don't care if he plays for Real. I'd to see him play for Barca.

I saw both players when they first came onto the scene. Iván de la Peña had more talent in his right foot than Raúl did in his whole body. Of course RM coaches had the patience with Raúl that DLP never had (except with Cruyff). If Cruyff had never been fired we would be talking about DLP as one of the best current players in the world. As it is he is just a once promising player.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juanele


I saw both players when they first came onto the scene. Iván de la Peña had more talent in his right foot than Raúl did in his whole body. Of course RM coaches had the patience with Raúl that DLP never had (except with Cruyff). If Cruyff had never been fired we would be talking about DLP as one of the best current players in the world. As it is he is just a once promising player.

I think he played one season under LVG though, right? I remember he was a regular fixture the one season I saw him play (his last season before he left for Lazio). He looked good then. I always thought that he and Guardiola were "hard" men, but they really weren't too much. I remember the fans loving DLP though. I would seriously bring him back for that one reason.

[Juanele]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


I think he played one season under LVG though, right? I remember he was a regular fixture the one season I saw him play (his last season before he left for Lazio). He looked good then. I always thought that he and Guardiola were "hard" men, but they really weren't too much. I remember the fans loving DLP though. I would seriously bring him back for that one reason.

Nope. DLP never played for Van Gaal. He played for a half a season for Serra Ferrer but never for Van Gaal. DLP was a "fantasia" and that's one of the reasons why the fans loved him. Ronaldo credits most of his goals, when he played for Barça, to De la Peña.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juanele


Nope. DLP never played for Van Gaal. He played for a half a season for Serra Ferrer but never for Van Gaal. DLP was a "fantasia" and that's one of the reasons why the fans loved him. Ronaldo credits most of his goals, when he played for Barça, to De la Peña.

I could have swore he played during LVG's first season. Ahh, you'd know better than I would. I know he was a "fantasia". Serra Ferrer didn't really give him a good run of games. He played a few times, but I don't think it was enough to find any form.

[Juanele]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


I could have swore he played during LVG's first season. Ahh, you'd know better than I would. I know he was a "fantasia". Serra Ferrer didn't really give him a good run of games. He played a few times, but I don't think it was enough to find any form.

I recall Ronaldo trying hard to talk the Inter brass into bringing DLP over to Inter that summer that Ronaldo went to Inter. But DLP went to Lazio instead. Then Gaspart was trying to apease the fans (due to his president campaign promises) by getting DLP back on loan from Lazio when Ferrer was coach. He did but I agree with you on that he never got enough playing time. A pity because I thought he looked good when he played under Serra Ferrer (who was a very good coach at Real Betis but I'm not sure what happend with Barça).

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juanele


I recall Ronaldo trying hard to talk the Inter brass into bringing DLP over to Inter that summer that Ronaldo went to Inter. But DLP went to Lazio instead. Then Gaspart was trying to apease the fans (due to his president campaign promises) by getting DLP back on loan from Lazio when Ferrer was coach. He did but I agree with you on that he never got enough playing time. A pity because I thought he looked good when he played under Serra Ferrer (who was a very good coach at Real Betis but I'm not sure what happend with Barça).

I remember reading about Serra Ferrer and thinking he'd be great as Barca's manager. He started out well enough (I remember the thumping of Leeds in the CL at the Nou Camp), but lost the plot pretty quick.

DLP didn't really impress me under Serra Ferrer. I saw him play a few times that season, but he didn't really make an impact. He was always coming off the bench though. And like I said earlier, he didn't get a consistent run of games.

[Robledo]

Yeah, De La Pena was certainly a popular figure with all Barca fans,. I remember inthe 96/97 season , more Barca shirts were sold with De La Pena's name on the back than any other player. Even more than Ronaldo, and we know how popular he was at that time !

[Bier]

De La Pena's career:
1995/96 Barcelona 31 7
1996/97 Barcelona 33 2
1997/98 Barcelona 17 2 (under Van Gaal :) )
1998/99 Lazio 15 0
1999/00 Marseille [loan] 12 1
2000/01 Barcelona [loan] 9 0
2001/02 Lazio 1 0

So he had one year with Van Gaal. ;)

About his talent: I back Juanele's opinion that De La Pena had more talent in his right foot then Raul in his whole body. He's the most brilliant player I've ever seen, especially when it comes to passing. :star:

[Juanele]

Originally posted by Bier
De La Pena's career:
1995/96 Barcelona 31 7
1996/97 Barcelona 33 2
1997/98 Barcelona 17 2 (under Van Gaal :) )
1998/99 Lazio 15 0
1999/00 Marseille [loan] 12 1
2000/01 Barcelona [loan] 9 0
2001/02 Lazio 1 0

So he had one year with Van Gaal. ;)

About his talent: I back Juanele's opinion that De La Pena had more talent in his right foot then Raul in his whole body. He's the most brilliant player I've ever seen, especially when it comes to passing. :star:

Ah well I was mistaken. Still DLP was a player that VG absolutely hated. That's one of the reasons why VG is not very well liked today.

[Bier]

That's one of the seldom cases where I totally don't understand VG. De La Pena is such a genius ... he could be the absolute key to success under a coach like VG. His incredible passes would totally fit in VG's playing system. Sometimes it really seems like VG axes those players who steal his show.
As long as he's successful ... but I still dream of the great DLP as keyplayer again in the blaugrana-shirt.

By the way: I'm gone for holidays the next two weeks. I'll try to find an Internet Café somewhere, if I fail, see ya in two weeks :)

[Bier]

Ah, yes ... since my beloved little buddha is the topic now ... hope you like my new avatar ;)

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Bier
That's one of the seldom cases where I totally don't understand VG. De La Pena is such a genius ... he could be the absolute key to success under a coach like VG. His incredible passes would totally fit in VG's playing system. Sometimes it really seems like VG axes those players who steal his show.
As long as he's successful ... but I still dream of the great DLP as keyplayer again in the blaugrana-shirt.

By the way: I'm gone for holidays the next two weeks. I'll try to find an Internet Café somewhere, if I fail, see ya in two weeks :)

Where you gonna be at on the holidays???

[Bier]

My best mate Rod and me are going to "Rabenberg" ... it's some kind of a soccer-training-camp in the east of Germany. It's gonna be fun. kickin the ball 24/7. ;) :D Got a lot of Barça- and Benfica-shirts with me to represent my teams ;) and my Marseille-shirt ("De La Pena" 10 :star: ;) )

[Juanele]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Anyone know what's up with Nano?

I was wrong with my previous post. He is still with Barça B. Here is a short article about him (sorry it's in spanish).

Nano confía que su trabajo hará fijarse a Van Gaal y le llevará al primer equipo

11/08/02 03:00 h.Fernando Macedo 'Nano' ha empezado la nueva temporada con un claro olvido del pasado y muy centrado en lo que tiene que ser su futuro en la 2ª B, por ahora. Sus primeros encuentros los está sacando con nota y demuestra haber aparcado cualquier polémica con el director del fútbol base, Joaquín Rifé.

“Hablé con Rifé y todo quedó solucionado, tampoco hay que darle mayor importancia”. La clave está en seguir trabajando a las órdenes de Costas. “La verdad es que seguir otro año en 2ª B no es lo mejor, pero sigo contento en el filial y con la idea de que Van Gaal se pueda fijar en mí y volver al primer equipo. ¿Por qué no?. Para mí no es ningun problema seguir en el Barça, tengo contrato y en todo caso quien puede mover pieza es el propio club”.

Nano, que acabará contrato en el 2004, no sabe si el Barça ha recibido alguna petición por él “eso lo sabrá el club o mi representante”, lo que sí cree es que si no ha progresado más ha sido “porque tampoco algunos entrenadores confiaron demasiado en mí”. Por cierto, aún tiene –¿y por qué no?– su 'Mercedes': “a mí me gusta y no hago daño a nadie”

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juanele


I was wrong with my previous post. He is still with Barça B. Here is a short article about him (sorry it's in spanish).

Nano confía que su trabajo hará fijarse a Van Gaal y le llevará al primer equipo

11/08/02 03:00 h.Fernando Macedo 'Nano' ha empezado la nueva temporada con un claro olvido del pasado y muy centrado en lo que tiene que ser su futuro en la 2ª B, por ahora. Sus primeros encuentros los está sacando con nota y demuestra haber aparcado cualquier polémica con el director del fútbol base, Joaquín Rifé.

“Hablé con Rifé y todo quedó solucionado, tampoco hay que darle mayor importancia”. La clave está en seguir trabajando a las órdenes de Costas. “La verdad es que seguir otro año en 2ª B no es lo mejor, pero sigo contento en el filial y con la idea de que Van Gaal se pueda fijar en mí y volver al primer equipo. ¿Por qué no?. Para mí no es ningun problema seguir en el Barça, tengo contrato y en todo caso quien puede mover pieza es el propio club”.

Nano, que acabará contrato en el 2004, no sabe si el Barça ha recibido alguna petición por él “eso lo sabrá el club o mi representante”, lo que sí cree es que si no ha progresado más ha sido “porque tampoco algunos entrenadores confiaron demasiado en mí”. Por cierto, aún tiene –¿y por qué no?– su 'Mercedes': “a mí me gusta y no hago daño a nadie”

Thanx for the update Juanele. However, I don't speak a lick of Spanish. Could you please give me the jist of the article??? :D

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Bier
My best mate Rod and me are going to "Rabenberg" ... it's some kind of a soccer-training-camp in the east of Germany. It's gonna be fun. kickin the ball 24/7. ;) :D Got a lot of Barça- and Benfica-shirts with me to represent my teams ;) and my Marseille-shirt ("De La Pena" 10 :star: ;) )


Cool! I'm sure you two will have a great time. Speaking of jerserys, I want to pick up Barca's from last season. It was a really great design. Also, I have the navy training shirt from the 2000/2001 season and the training sweatshirt from that season too. Great stuff. I can't wait to see the full line of Barca merchandise for this upcoming season. I was also gonna check out the Barca website for the Centenary painting that a Catalan painter did for the club. They were selling replica's of it on there. It's a cool painting. I figured that I could put it somewhere in my new place. :D

[BLAUGRANA]

"Iván de la Peña had more talent in his right foot than Raúl did in his whole body." Juanele

Hey Juanele, what do you think of this signature?!? :D

[Juanele]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
"Iván de la Peña had more talent in his right foot than Raúl did in his whole body." Juanele

Hey Juanele, what do you think of this signature?!? :D

I like it :D

[Juanele]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Thanx for the update Juanele. However, I don't speak a lick of Spanish. Could you please give me the jist of the article??? :D

Nano has started a new season with the youth team (Barça B) and will forget what happend in the past to concetrate on the future. His first training with the team this season has gone very well and has already put the controversial problems with Juaquin Rife (the director of futbol operations) behind him.

"I have spoken with Rife and everything has been worked out." The important thing is to continue working hard under Costas. "The truth is that to play another season in Segunda B is not the best but I am happy playing with the team and I think Van Gaal can gain confidence in me and I will play with the first (senior) team. Why not? I have no problem continuing with Barça."

Nano, who will finish his contract in 2004, doesn't know if the club has received any offers for him "the club or my agent would know about that." He believes that if he hasn't made any progress it's because "some trainers don't have confidence in me."

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juanele


Nano has started a new season with the youth team (Barça B) and will forget what happend in the past to concetrate on the future. His first training with the team this season has gone very well and has already put the controversial problems with Juaquin Rife (the director of futbol operations) behind him.

"I have spoken with Rife and everything has been worked out." The important thing is to continue working hard under Costas. "The truth is that to play another season in Segunda B is not the best but I am happy playing with the team and I think Van Gaal can gain confidence in me and I will play with the first (senior) team. Why not? I have no problem continuing with Barça."

Nano, who will finish his contract in 2004, doesn't know if the club has received any offers for him "the club or my agent would know about that." He believes that if he hasn't made any progress it's because "some trainers don't have confidence in me."

What are these controversial problems he's talking about???

I think LVG was the manager who gave Nano his first call up to the senior squad the last time he was in charge, right???

[Juanele]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


What are these controversial problems he's talking about???

I think LVG was the manager who gave Nano his first call up to the senior squad the last time he was in charge, right???

I don't know the story other than the article above. So whatever problem there was I'm not sure. VG did give Nano his first call up. He did ok and then got injured, got sent back down again and has never been called up again.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juanele


I don't know the story other than the article above. So whatever problem there was I'm not sure. VG did give Nano his first call up. He did ok and then got injured, got sent back down again and has never been called up again.

Maybe LVG will give him another shot. I remember when Arsenal were after him the last time LVG was in charge. He was a hot property back then.

[BLAUGRANA]

He's going to get a checkup to see if he can train with the squad. Hopefully he won't need surgery.

[Roberto Abrego]

yes!I hope he doesnt needs a surgery we need our best CB fit before the kick off of La Liga!

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
yes!I hope he doesnt needs a surgery we need our best CB fit before the kick off of La Liga!

What do you mean? FDB is fit. :D

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


What do you mean? FDB is fit. :D

:D :D


yes our 2nd best CB is fit


but we need P.Andersson the best one!

[Bier]

FDB will play anyway ... he's Van Gaal's favourite player. ;)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Bier
FDB will play anyway ... he's Van Gaal's favourite player. ;)

And he's better than Andersson.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


And he's better than Andersson.


he was....

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego



he was....

and still is.

[BLAUGRANA]

Got this from Barca's official site. Our youngsters and former youngsters are doing well for U-21 team.

Barca youngsters star in Spain under-21 win

Wednesday 21 August 2002 10:25 (BCN)

Spain’s under-21 team, with Barca youngsters Fernando Navarro and Dani Tortolero on from the start and keeper Victor Valdés coming on in the second half, beat Hungary 0-1 in Budapest on Tuesday night. Seville forward Reyes got the winning goal on 33 minutes. Ex-Barca players Mikel Arteta and Xabi Alonso controlled the midfield and Tortolero and Navarro looked solid in front of Valdes and ex-teammate Pepe Reina in the first half.

[BLAUGRANA]

Found this article on UEFA.com:

New dawn for Luis Enrique
Friday 23 August 2002
FC Barcelona's 3-0 victory over Legia Warszawa in the first leg of their UEFA Champions League third qualifying round match effectively guaranteed the Catalan club a place in the group stage of the competition. It is a season of high expectation at the Camp Nou, as Barça aim to prosper again under returning Dutch coach Louis van Gaal and cope without the skills of the departed Rivaldo.



Luis Enrique is confident that FC Barcelona will win something this season
(©empics)


New captain
One player is certain to feel the pressure more than most, the club's newly appointed captain Luis Enrique. The inspirational midfield player will lead Barça's quest to challenge to Spanish champions Valencia CF and his former club, reigning European champions Real Madrid CF.

Versatile talent
Luis Enrique, who has also played for Sporting Gijón, joined Barcelona in 1995 and has played at full-back, in midfield, on the wing and as a centre-forward, although his best position is behind the strikers, timing his runs into the penalty area to perfection. He has now played 80 UEFA club competition matches and represented his country 62 times, including the summer's FIFA World Cup, where he helped Spain reach the last eight. He spoke to uefa.com about his hopes for the season ahead.



Luis Enrique in action for Spain in the World Cup
(©empics)


uefa.com: How has your preparation gone for the new season ?

Luis Enrique: "We have had the normal preparation that we do but we have also had to focus on our UEFA Champions League qualifying match."

uefa.com: What are your thoughts ahead of the second leg of the match against Legia Warszawa?

Luis Enrique: "In the draw, there were two very good teams in Sporting [Clube de Portugal] and [AJ] Auxerre and we were happy to avoid them, but we had the experience of last year of playing against a Polish team. We knew it was going to be a difficult game, especially because the games are played very early in our season."

uefa.com: Do you feel that you have had a long enough break since the World Cup?

Luis Enrique: "We had three weeks. Normally when you play a World Cup you know that you won't have long holidays. But I had three weeks and that was enough for me to rest and be with my family."

uefa.com: What are your hopes for the season ahead?

Luis Enrique: "I am very optimistic. At Barcelona you have to have the highest expectations, especially this year as we have been three years without winning a title and the hopes and wishes of all at Barcelona are massive this year."

uefa.com: How does it feel having Louis van Gaal back in charge at Barcelona?

Luis Enrique: "It is his second period at Barcelona and his way of working is mostly the same. He has changed some little things but most things are the same. We know how he works. Just as we did in the first period when he was in charge, what we hope is that in this period we can win a lot of titles."

[lineuplover]

you always put enke on goal i would put bonano on goal im not even sure enke is still there u wanna know my favourite lineup? i have about 1000 heres one of my barca lineups:

BONANO; PUYOL, DE BOER, ANDERSSON; RIQUELME, LUIS ENRIQUE, MENDIETA, OVERMARS; KLUIVERT, SAVIOLA

:grumpy

[lineuplover]

do u already know the squad? pleease pleeeease i love squads and lineups i collect them

P.S. For those of you who don't understand my location: "De bil van Frank de Boer" is Dutch for "Frank the Boer's **s".

My favourite member is AZULGRANA, I like his comments.

:smile:

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


and still is.

True :thumbsup:

[Juanele]

Originally posted by lineuplover
do u already know the squad? pleease pleeeease i love squads and lineups i collect them


PORTEROS
Nº - Nombre - Apodo - Nacimiento
1 Roberto Oscar Bonano BONANO 24/02/1970
25 Robert Enke ENKE 24/08/1977
26 Víctor Valdés Arribas VÍCTOR VALDÉS

DEFENSAS
Nº- Nombre - Apodo - Nacimiento
2 Michael Reiziger REIZIGER 03/05/1973
3 Frank de Boer DE BOER 15/05/1970
4 Patrik Andersson ANDERSSON 18/08/1971
5 Carles Puyol Saforcada PUYOL 13/04/1978
12 Philippe Christanval CHRISTANVAL 31/08/1978
33 Daniel Tortolero DANI TORTOLERO
35 Fernando Navarro Corbacho FERNANDO 25/06/1982

MEDIOS
Nº - Nombre - Apodo - Nacimiento
6 Xavier Hernández Creus XAVI 25/01/1980
8 Philip John William Cocu COCU 29/10/1970
10 Juan Román Riquelme RIQUELME
14 Gerard López Segú GERARD 12/03/1977
15 Fabio Rochemback ROCHEMBACK 10/12/1981
17 Gaizka Mendieta Zabala MENDIETA 17/03/1974
18 Gabriel García de la Torre GABRI 10/02/1979
21 Luis Enrique Martínez García LUIS ENRIQUE 08/05/1970
22 Deiberson Mauricio Geovanni GEOVANNI 11/01/1980
31 Thiago Motta MOTTA 28/08/1982
34 Andrés Iniesta Luján INIESTA

DELANTEROS
Nº - Nombre - Apodo - Nacimiento
7 Javier Pedro Saviola SAVIOLA 11/12/1981
9 Patrick Kluivert KLUIVERT 01/07/1976
11 Marc Overmars OVERMARS 29/03/1973
19 Daniel García Lara DANI 22/12/1974

ENTRENADOR
Nombre - Apodo - Nacimiento
Louis Van Gaal LOUIS VAN GAAL 08/08/1951

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Note: Riquelme, Rochemback, Geovanni, and Saviola are all NON-EU. Max allowed per squad is 4 (Barça is at the limit).

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juanele


PORTEROS
Nº - Nombre - Apodo - Nacimiento
1 Roberto Oscar Bonano BONANO 24/02/1970
25 Robert Enke ENKE 24/08/1977
26 Víctor Valdés Arribas VÍCTOR VALDÉS

DEFENSAS
Nº- Nombre - Apodo - Nacimiento
2 Michael Reiziger REIZIGER 03/05/1973
3 Frank de Boer DE BOER 15/05/1970
4 Patrik Andersson ANDERSSON 18/08/1971
5 Carles Puyol Saforcada PUYOL 13/04/1978
12 Philippe Christanval CHRISTANVAL 31/08/1978
33 Daniel Tortolero DANI TORTOLERO
35 Fernando Navarro Corbacho FERNANDO 25/06/1982

MEDIOS
Nº - Nombre - Apodo - Nacimiento
6 Xavier Hernández Creus XAVI 25/01/1980
8 Philip John William Cocu COCU 29/10/1970
10 Juan Román Riquelme RIQUELME
14 Gerard López Segú GERARD 12/03/1977
15 Fabio Rochemback ROCHEMBACK 10/12/1981
17 Gaizka Mendieta Zabala MENDIETA 17/03/1974
18 Gabriel García de la Torre GABRI 10/02/1979
21 Luis Enrique Martínez García LUIS ENRIQUE 08/05/1970
22 Deiberson Mauricio Geovanni GEOVANNI 11/01/1980
31 Thiago Motta MOTTA 28/08/1982
34 Andrés Iniesta Luján INIESTA

DELANTEROS
Nº - Nombre - Apodo - Nacimiento
7 Javier Pedro Saviola SAVIOLA 11/12/1981
9 Patrick Kluivert KLUIVERT 01/07/1976
11 Marc Overmars OVERMARS 29/03/1973
19 Daniel García Lara DANI 22/12/1974

ENTRENADOR
Nombre - Apodo - Nacimiento
Louis Van Gaal LOUIS VAN GAAL 08/08/1951

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Note: Riquelme, Rochemback, Geovanni, and Saviola are all NON-EU. Max allowed per squad is 4 (Barça is at the limit).

Where's Rivaldo? Oh yeah, we sent his sorry *** packing! :D

Saviola should have an Italian passport in about a month or so. I'm sure Riquelme can get one too, even if it's not legal. :eek:

[Juanele]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Where's Rivaldo? Oh yeah, we sent his sorry *** packing! :D

Saviola should have an Italian passport in about a month or so. I'm sure Riquelme can get one too, even if it's not legal. :eek:

Why the rancor against Rivaldo? Because he and Van Gaal didn't get along? Rivaldo played well for Barça. He gave his all and even won a few games single handly. I have nothing against Rivaldo and wish him all the luck in Milan. At the very least he was loyal to Barça and didn't behave like Figo or Ronaldo.

The NON-EU status of the players won't be an issue as long as there are no other players coming in from a non-eu country. Also only 3 are allowed on the pitch at the same time.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juanele


Why the rancor against Rivaldo? Because he and Van Gaal didn't get along? Rivaldo played well for Barça. He gave his all and even won a few games single handly. I have nothing against Rivaldo and wish him all the luck in Milan. At the very least he was loyal to Barça and didn't behave like Figo or Ronaldo.

The NON-EU status of the players won't be an issue as long as there are no other players coming in from a non-eu country. Also only 3 are allowed on the pitch at the same time.

I was just taking the piss a bit in regards to the Rivaldo remark. Actually, while he left fairly amicably he still could have been more of a professional. He should have taken LVG's example.

[BLAUGRANA]

This from the Barca website. I think it shows that with LVG in charge it's all gonna be about team this year:

Van Gaal satisfied with youngsters

Friday 23 August 2002 23:55 (BCN)

Boss Louis van Gaal was particularly happy with the performance of the youngsters drafted into the team for tonight’s 1-0 win over Red Star Belgrade. “ I watched Barca B last season and noticed that Tortolero was a very skillful player and Oleguer was a real fighter. So with Christanval, Reiziger and Frank de Boer having played in midweek, I decided to call the two of them up. I have to say that I’m very satisfied with their performances.”

Van Gaal continued: “we played well defensively, particularly in the first half and we never let them have a chance. We upped our game in attack in thee second half, passing at pace and creating plenty of chances against a very defensive team.”

[BLAUGRANA]

Patrik Andersson is finally back. Great news as our defense didn't really have too much depth. Juanele says they could revert to a 4 man back line now. We'll have to see. Either way, it's just good to have him back. Hopefully Overmars will be right on his heels.

[nismo]

maybe this could relieve some pressure off navvaro

[avandi]

where is Andersson ? Close to returning?

[BLAUGRANA]

Hi avandi. Welcome to the WSB! :D Are you a Barca fan?

Andersson is very close to returning. He's been out for so long. It's almost as if he's no longer on the squad. It'll be good to have him back though. I think he'll bolster our defense, not to mention add some much needed depth. Overmars should be back soon too. I think he'll add some width to our game. LVG may have to change the formation to accomodate the two though. We'll see.

[avandi]

Thanks for that.

I have enterred a fantasy football game online and picked Andersson along with a couple of other barca players but it's very difficult to find a good site to check up on injuries or team form. The Barca page is only in Spanish from what I can gather.

Is he a couple of weeks away and do you think he is still an automatic choice to start more often than not?

Anyway, thanks again for your help.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by avandi
Thanks for that.

I have enterred a fantasy football game online and picked Andersson along with a couple of other barca players but it's very difficult to find a good site to check up on injuries or team form. The Barca page is only in Spanish from what I can gather.

Is he a couple of weeks away and do you think he is still an automatic choice to start more often than not?

Anyway, thanks again for your help.

I personally wouldn't choose him just yet. I'm in a few fantasy leagues myself and I'd wait til he gets a game under his belt. Which fantasy league are you in?

[avandi]

the Telegraph http://www.tffo.co.uk

not the best I gather but know better for next season .. will look long and hard before the next one

[Roberto Abrego]

yes we really need our best CB :D

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by avandi
the Telegraph http://www.tffo.co.uk

not the best I gather but know better for next season .. will look long and hard before the next one

Well, if you go to Uefa.com you can play the CL fantasy league for free, as well as Euro 2004 qualifying. If you want (or you're already playing them), I can give you the codes to join the World Soccer Board groups i've got set up.

[Juan]

I don´t think Andersson will be in the starting XI right away. However, he would be a nice fit should Van Gaal choose to play with a four man defence.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juan
I don´t think Andersson will be in the starting XI right away. However, he would be a nice fit should Van Gaal choose to play with a four man defence.

I was thinking that in the 3 man defense he would replace De Boer who could move out to the left in place of Navarro. However, De Boer's lack of speed would mean this wouldn't work too well either.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


I was thinking that in the 3 man defense he would replace De Boer who could move out to the left in place of Navarro. However, De Boer's lack of speed would mean this wouldn't work too well either.

But De boer is faster than Andersson

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Azerkid


But De boer is faster than Andersson

Fine, but FDB would be out on the left where we'd need more pace than FDB can provide.

[squirrelkanu]

Enke

B/ Puyol De Boer Anderrson Reiziger

M/ Xavi Riquelme Mendieta

Luis Enrique

F/ Saviola Kluivert


Int/ Cocu Babangida Fernando Overmars(in when fully fit for Xavi) Bonano Geovanni Dani

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Fine, but FDB would be out on the left where we'd need more pace than FDB can provide.

I think LVG should stick to 4 man defence and play it as a true 3 man defence by putting Cocu(more of a mid) on the flank and shifting the other 3 defenders (whoever he decides to play) to cover the flankman on the his runs.

[BLAUGRANA]

Looks like both players could be back soon. Today they both played a full 90 minutes. It'll be nice to have them back as they will add some much needed depth.

[hollowi]

"With respect to sporting matters, the Dutch manager spoke about the changes to his squad list, in which Bonano and Andersson are the new faces. Speaking of the Argentinean goalkeeper, Van Gaal said that he is very happy with his work, because he has developed well in so many aspects of his play."

This is from an interview of LvG in webby.

And other thing from the webby: "Coach Louis Van Gaal is expected to name Juan Roman Riquelme in the side to replace Motta."

Now when Motta's injured, maybe it's time for Romi. I hope Riquelme plays well the whole time Motta is injured and maybe he takes his place in the starting XI where he belongs. Now since Overmars is also fit, they may play either 5 man mid (Overmars-Riquelme/Luis Enrique\Cocu-Mendieta) or 4 man without Overmars, where Romi plays the far left and Cocu is below Lucho.

I think we'll have easier now on since we're off injuries of such players as Overmars and Andersson.

avandi, a good page to check out things is alphasoccer (www.alphasoccer.net) since it gathers news from all around so you don't have to check 20 places to see all the news... Also it's easy to use (I check News by club -> FCB, easy to see what's up)

[BLAUGRANA]

LVG is looking at playing some of the younger players due to the injuries, especially at the back. Andersson is hurt, AGAIN! Hopefully we'll uncover another gem.

[jscho]

I read that Overmars is hurt again too. Is it true? How very disappointing when you thought some improvement to be had with Overmars and Anderson fit .

[relejado]

same as with andersson. how painfull that must be for andersson to have surgery again, just after he thought to be ready for first team football !!:(

what if de boer or even puyol get injured. I better not think any further.....

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by relejado


what if de boer or even puyol get injured. I better not think any further.....

IF YOU JINX PUYOL IN ANY WAY, I'll overstep my bounds as a Moderator and ban you!!! ;) :D

[jscho]

Question?
I have read a lot of Barca's fans posting and most wanted Barca to buy Chivu. Say, if VG say that someone like Tortolero or Oleguer is good enough to fill the gap, what would your opinion be? Still to go ahead and spend the money to get Chivu or to just let the youngster have their chances?

[soccer fanatic]

Still think they should get Chivu, from a Barca perspective. He is ready to play inmediatly on amazing level. He is a good pro, and should play for a long time with Barca, considering his age. Chivu is exactly what Barca needs. He will succeed Frank de Boer with ease.

If VG would go with those youngsters I would support it, but if they proof to be inadequate, he will has to get someone, it should be Chivu. LVG knows all of this ofcourse. He knows exactly how VDV and Chivu are developing, don`t doubt that for a second.

[funky6]

Soccer-fanatic,i've heard that Chivu has stated in the past that he would like to come to Barça or to play in Camp Nou.Since you're in Holland and an Ajax fan you should know better.Is it true?

[soccer fanatic]

I don`t really know, he doesn`t talk about where he wants to go in the future a lot. Ofcourse he would love to play for Barca, but he would join Real Madrid to if he got the chance. Real Madrid are also keen on signing him. If I was the Barca manager, I would try to get him soon. Don`t bid to low, start high, because Chivu is wanted by a lot of teams.
I doubt if he likes Barca more than Real Madrid. Same goes for Rafael van der Vaart. I think one of those two once said on a gala night that if Madrid would offer a contract, he would not doubt it. So my advice is to handle quickly, before the bidding war starts, Ajax aint stupid.

Hard to tell, for now he is loyal to Ajax and only is busy with Ajax. His manager and his rollmodel Hagi are talking him in to leaving Ajax. They think it is time to move on.

[Strike]

Soccerfanatic that with the gala night was Chivu. I know also that
Rafael said he would love to play at the Nou Camp one day --->
but not yet. Now he want's to stay at Ajax for one or two more seasons. You are right that we should bring an offer but who give's us the money? Offcourse I would love to see Chivu at Barca couse I'm so as you an Barca and Ajax fan too. With
him we keep up to position problems couse he can play at center
or at the left defens and I would say for me Mendieta and Chivu
are priority no.1. If we did this and have for reason a little bit money over we can try to bring in D' Allessandro.

Of wat denk jej ervan soccerfanatic? Moie idee of niet?

[soccer fanatic]

Definetly, I totally agree with you.

I know Barca has financial problems, but for Chivu you must try to make an exception, he will easily earn his transfer fee back.

[Strike]

This is no disscusion. I 100% agree.

[BLAUGRANA]

Barca's players have given up their bonuses this season until they win something. A good gesture from the players and a fitting one.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Barca's players have given up their bonuses this season until they win something. A good gesture from the players and a fitting one.

How noble, they should give up 50% of their salary. :)

But it is great, they won`t miss it or anything, but it is something.

[BLAUGRANA]

Gabri has agreed to an improved deal with the club which will keep him at the Nou Camp until 2006. The release clause in his new contract is supposedly some 30 million euros. I'm glad he'll be around for longer as I consider him an important utility player who plays both sides of the ball and is versatile in terms of positioning.

[BLAUGRANA]

The young keeper has decided not to report to training after being dropped from the first team. His agent claims he hasn't received a specific reason as to why he was dropped. LVG is in none to pleased with this action and has told the club to do something about it.

I don't know what the keeper is thinking. :confused: He should be thrilled he is still at the club considering Reina was let go, much less the fact that he's recieved plenty of first team opportunities at such a tender age. Hopefully he'll get his act together.

[BLAUGRANA]

Overmars was hurt in the Villareal match. He'll sit out vs Galatasaray, but could be back to face Deportivo La Coruna.

Christanval, Lucho and Patrik Andersson are reportedly mending well and should be back before too long.

[hollowi]

I think LvG should spare Luis Enrique and Overmars vs. Deportivo and use instead Riquelme and Motta because we want these two to play against Real.

I also read about the bonus thing. It's great that the players show such commitment to the club. That no-bonuses stuff is great because now they really have to fight if they want the green. Anyway they play because they want to, not because there's money. Right?

[Juan]

Lucho almost certaintly won´t play the derby :D :D :D

[funky6]

But Romy will.And he doesn't like Madrid at all.:D:D

[Juan]

But will he play as good as Lucho does against us? I don´t think so.

[BLAUGRANA]

It seems the defender has made good with the club and LVG. Still, the situation wasn't good for him or the club. Hopefully just a growing pain from the kid. Here are the club director's comments after a meeting between him, LVG, Gaspart and the player. This from skysports:

He (Valdes) explained the reason for his actions and has pledged that his attitude will improve in the future," explained Farguell.

"He will return to training on Tuesday and then be back with the first team squad on Thursday. But if he is told to play for the B team then he will.

"He says that he did not understand the decision by Van Gaal, but it has all been sorted out now, although the club will impose the maximum fine for cases such as this.

"He has promised to return to the way he was and will rebuild the trust the coach has shown in him in the past."

[funky6]

He has not even the half of the talent and ability that Reina has IMO.I would definitely prefer oscar this year.

[relejado]

hey AZUL, you posted a link to get the Gent del barca. did you already ordered one ? they want a fiscal ID....what the hell they mean with fiscal ID. i don't have one...

juan, remember the last real-boca game, riquelme destroyed you almost alone...:D :D ...he can do it again !

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by relejado
hey AZUL, you posted a link to get the Gent del barca. did you already ordered one ? they want a fiscal ID....what the hell they mean with fiscal ID. i don't have one...



No, I'm still waiting until I move.

[hollowi]

Originally posted by Juan
But will he play as good as Lucho does against us? I don´t think so.

Quite possibly he will. Lucho is a great player but Romy is amazing with ball. We'll see about that. And I think that the game isn't a question of skill but of nerves and all that stuff. The teams are about equal of the players (sure Real has bigger names but are they better and you only have one silly point more than we do). Besides we're getting our act together in La Liga too. I just hope that the NT games won't affect too much on the game.

[funky6]

I just hope that the NT games won't affect too much on the game.

This is my main fear too.Let's hope not so...

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by funky6


This is my main fear too.Let's hope not so...

Me too. Damn NT games. Fifa needs to get it's you know what together and get a decent year-round football calender created.

[BLAUGRANA]

Here are some of today's LVG comments as regards the player. This from the club's official website:


"He made a mistake, but he's young and has had time to think things over and we're going to carry on as ever". He even insinuated that the young keeper could be in the Barça B side that is set to face Espanyol B on Sunday. Valdés will train tomorrow with the club's goalkeeper trainer, Frans Hoek, while on Thursday he will be working with the first team. Van Gaal claims to have plenty of experience with young players and said that "these things are to be expected", before denying that there has been or should be any kind of promise that the player will be offered a permanent first team place.

[BLAUGRANA]

Here's what the player has had to say. Good to hear this from him. Hopefully he's learned his lesson. This from the club's official website:

"I want to apologise to everybody who feels offended by my decision because I never wanted to offend anybody". The Catalan keeper went on to recognise that his decision not to attend training was "totally personal, even though my family, friends, representatives and acquaintances recommended that I do otherwise".

Valdés claimed that he made the decision "to reflect upon the new sporting situation" that had led to him being relegated back to Barça's B team. But after thinking it over, he was willing to accept that he had made a mistake and wished to express that publicly. The youngster also accepted "all the consequences that could be derived from the decision I made. If I have to work twice as hard to get things back to how they were before, I'll do it".

Víctor Valdés also wished to clarify that he had never tried to hide from anybody while all of this was going on, and explained that "I was in constant contact with the team captain and delegate". He repeatedly insisted that he felt awful about what he had done, and said that he intended to communicate that in person to the rest of the squad. "I have always wanted to be successful at Barça and I have never considered leaving the club" he added.

[Juan]

Good for him. Now he should work hard to get his Barça career back together.

[gnlvagosov]

nice game for Dani.

[hollowi]

The Barca squad were tonight at the MTV Europe Music Awards at Barcelona. Kluivert's coming in was really a great - he looked like some pimp:D :D :D He also got a really nice "I always score" -tag on his jacket :D

Great PR for the club IMO, since the club doesn't have icons like Ronaldo or Beckham (though eg Puyol is a great locally) that the team gives a less uptight image of itself. Though Frankie was a little uptight :D

[funky6]

Kluivert's coming in was really a great - he looked like some pimp

Bwahahahahaha...I wish i could see him and all of them!!!!Was he wearing a Hawaian shirt or smthin??:D:D:D

[hollowi]

UPDATE

Kluivert with several other Barca players awarded Football Against Racism in Europe with Free your mind award. GREAT PR FOR THE CLUB. I think this makes Barca look as the front of non-racism in football, which is great. Thank you, MTV and Barça!

funky: Kluivert was wearing some tight black leather shirt/jacket with nothing under it and it was only closed in the middle and he had this huge diamond cross too :D

[funky6]

:shocked::shocked:That's even worse!Was he Danas pimp?;)The same old Patrick:D

Can anyone post a link with photos from the award?

Barça need a stylist/hairdresser NOW!:D

[Strike]

Yes and I think Motta is getting the new MATRIX-MAN.

[hollowi]

Yea, he was stylish (too) ;)

Anyway a lot of difference between Pat's and Frankie's style :D :rolleyes:
The other one was wearing pimp clothes and the other was wearing a suit. I'd say guess which one was wearing what but you already know :D

[funky6]

Just saw photos from the award in MD's website.We got the coolest squad in Europe:D

Puyol was like a Strokes member:D

[soccer fanatic]

Here is glamourboy. :D

[hollowi]

Nice pic. Anyway this will beat it.
http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/publica/Publica?id_pagina=34&id_formato=114&array_par=COMPID&array_val=50610361&array_par=UPPERID&array_val=121708
hahahah so true :D

[BLAUGRANA]

Another one of PK from the MTV awards:

http://ema.mtv.co.uk/ema2002/assets/galleries/redcarpet/17.jpg

[lineuplover]

Who the hell's Lucho???

[Olesen10]

"Lucho" is the nickname of Luis Enrique...

[VivaBarcaInter]

After looking over an archive of several seasons, I'm still trying to figure out how our Squad got to where it's at right now. Even allowing for the manager changes, there are still several things wrong.

1) Why did these managers (including Van Gaal himself) not bring in at least 1 World Class defender? I'm talking on levels of Nesta, Thuram, Cannavaro, Cordoba, Montero, Campbell, Ferdinand, Hyypia. A guy that could have been the heart of our defence for at least a couple of seasons up to this point.

2) Where the hell did all the forwards go!?!?! We are BARCELONA, dammit!

3) While these things were being neglected, we seemed to be spending vast sums of money on all sorts of chumps. Christanval? Geovanni? Dani? Zenden? (who actually took CROSSING LESSONS his first season. A winger taking crossing lessons!!?!?!?) Simao? There are others, but the point is made. Now, some of these guys are decent players, and some could be had/have the potential to be great. But why are we spending TONS of money on potential? We should be spending that money on proven class, and letting the youth team give the potential stars. That's what it's for after all.

4) We now have a coach who has come back to a very different Barca in a very different La Liga. Before, he could live off the successes of his Ajax team, by buying a chunk of their players to add to a couple of other new guys. He won a treble in his first season. (although, as he would show throughout his Barca stint, he didn't take the Spain Super Cup seriously by never winning it even though Barca played for it 3 years running. And the first time was against Real Madrid.) He then won the league in the centenary year. But not only did he have the luxury of a strong squad, the opposition seemed to be weaker. Real certainly were, which I think was shown by us beating them 3-2 in their own ground then administering a 3-0 thrashing at our place. :D

In his first season, we beat Real twice in the league, we beat both Betis and Valencia at their grounds, and we won the league with 4 games to spare. (Although Valencia would become a big of a bogey team for Barca after that first victory!).

My point is, he's coming back to a club (which in itself isn't normally a good idea) with less money, a weaker squad and against stronger opponents. While I'm not instantly calling for his sacking, I have to doubt if it's the best long term solution for us. And in the short term, his apparent distaste for the Spanish Cup doesn't seem to be a great idea, considering other big clubs might not take it seriously.Which, sadly enough, might make it our most realistic chance of adding an honour to the list if things don't change.

Thank you for your time, and sorry!

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by VivaBarcaInter
Simao? There are others, but the point is made. Now, some of these guys are decent players, and some could be had/have the potential to be great. But why are we spending TONS of money on potential? We should be spending that money on proven class, and letting the youth team give the potential stars. That's what it's for after all.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Take it easy there mate. Careful what you say about Simao. I for one was furious when he was let go and many other WSB members have a lot of respect for him. He never really got much of a chance at Barca and I'd love to see him come back.

Originally posted by VivaBarcaInter

4) We now have a coach who has come back to a very different Barca in a very different La Liga. Before, he could live off the successes of his Ajax team, by buying a chunk of their players to add to a couple of other new guys. He won a treble in his first season. (although, as he would show throughout his Barca stint, he didn't take the Spain Super Cup seriously by never winning it even though Barca played for it 3 years running. And the first time was against Real Madrid.) He then won the league in the centenary year. But not only did he have the luxury of a strong squad, the opposition seemed to be weaker. Real certainly were, which I think was shown by us beating them 3-2 in their own ground then administering a 3-0 thrashing at our place. :D

In his first season, we beat Real twice in the league, we beat both Betis and Valencia at their grounds, and we won the league with 4 games to spare. (Although Valencia would become a big of a bogey team for Barca after that first victory!).

My point is, he's coming back to a club (which in itself isn't normally a good idea) with less money, a weaker squad and against stronger opponents. While I'm not instantly calling for his sacking, I have to doubt if it's the best long term solution for us. And in the short term, his apparent distaste for the Spanish Cup doesn't seem to be a great idea, considering other big clubs might not take it seriously.Which, sadly enough, might make it our most realistic chance of adding an honour to the list if things don't change.

Thank you for your time, and sorry!

Don't apologize! You're entitled to your opinions. I personally think LVG is doing a fine job upon his return considering the circumstances. His coming back I would normally consider a bad thing, but while he was away he said Barca was his dream job and that he longed to return.

I think he could be fine as long term manager. I find it hard to judge him right now as he's had little to work with. I don't agree with everything he does, but I think he's doing alright.

[Strike]

People do you know what I ask me?

If Van Gaal where standing the year 2001, How much players
did he sell? (Zenden, De Boer,Simao,........) What dio you guys think?

[VivaBarcaInter]

Azul, I see what you're saying. I'm not against Simao personally, he was just one of many guys I thought about, but there are 2 questions to be asked.

Why do we buy so many unproven qualities?

And Why when we get one that can be good we don't use him enough? Geovanni could be very similar to Simao, from what I've seen Geo has lightning pace. But he isn't being played, and doesn't look like he will be. Is there any point in keeping a player when the manager doesn't seem to rate him, AND has a system that doesn't work to a winger's advantage? I personally would like to see players like them both playing at the Nou Camp. With one of the biggest pitches in Europe, surely a couple of fast wingers would do wonders?

But I still think we have to have priorities. If we were told "You have any amount to spend, but you can only buy one player", I think everyone would agree that we'd need to get a great defender. It just bothers me that there have been so many signings in places where it wasn't an absolute necessity.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Strike
People do you know what I ask me?

If Van Gaal where standing the year 2001, How much players
did he sell? (Zenden, De Boer,Simao,........) What dio you guys think?

I think something something was lost in the translation with this one Strike. Could you rephrase it?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by VivaBarcaInter
Azul, I see what you're saying. I'm not against Simao personally, he was just one of many guys I thought about, but there are 2 questions to be asked.

Why do we buy so many unproven qualities?

And Why when we get one that can be good we don't use him enough? Geovanni could be very similar to Simao, from what I've seen Geo has lightning pace. But he isn't being played, and doesn't look like he will be. Is there any point in keeping a player when the manager doesn't seem to rate him, AND has a system that doesn't work to a winger's advantage? I personally would like to see players like them both playing at the Nou Camp. With one of the biggest pitches in Europe, surely a couple of fast wingers would do wonders?

But I still think we have to have priorities. If we were told "You have any amount to spend, but you can only buy one player", I think everyone would agree that we'd need to get a great defender. It just bothers me that there have been so many signings in places where it wasn't an absolute necessity.

I think we buy "unproven" players with "great potential" because they are cheaper than big name stars. I personally felt that Saviola and Riquelme were a bit unproven when we bought them as I don't rate the Argentine League as highly as Europe, but they have both turned out fine. I think Rochembach is a player who was relatively unproven but who will turn out to be a good player. Simao was considered the next Figo at the time LVG brought him in. He's doing very well at Benfica and has been linked with the likes of Juventus on many occassions.

I think we have a style right now that allows for wing play, but that we lack the wing players to play that style. We have Overmars, but he's been hurt all season and we've not yet seen his displays on the wing. I think on the right side we could use Geo as a wing, but I prefer Lucho. This way you could keep JRR in the middle. In the future though, i'd prefer new wing players coming in.

[BLAUGRANA]

Lucho's injury is worse than expected and he's out until at last the new year.

[funky6]

Lucho's injury is worse than expected and he's out until at last the new year.

I've heard that too.It's really sad we 'll not be able to use him for 2 months.The captain was on fire and his presence was positive even by being on the pitch only..i guess it means Riquelme being used almost always as a starter.We'll miss him in serious Liga games but thank God that C.L. restarts in February after two "easy" games.

I can't think what happens if Puyol gets injured...:(

I subscribe to everything VivaBarcaInter says about unproven qualities and huge amounts of cash spent for nothing..

[Strike]

Azu what I meant was

If van Gaal where staying at us from beginning to now,
How many of the players who was selling since his absence
where not selling then?

[Olesen10]

Bad for Enrique, and for the team. He's been a true captain since the start of the season, and the team's gonna miss him for those two or three months, especially now where we have to stick up to keep in position of winning the league...! :(
http://www.fcbarcelona.com/imagenes/jugadores/futbol/luisenrique/251002_luisenrique_gran.jpg

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Strike
Azu what I meant was

If van Gaal where staying at us from beginning to now,
How many of the players who was selling since his absence
where not selling then?

Gotcha. I think Simao would still be around as well as maybe Figo. I guess we'll never know though.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by funky6




I can't think what happens if Puyol gets injured...:(



Don't even think of such things, you'll curse him! :eek:

[J R R]

Puyol getting injured thats like my worst nightmare
so is LE is out for 2 months thats bad news
VG will have to start with Riquelme i still think he can
play them both together

[funky6]

Don't even think of such things, you'll curse him!

I believe in that stuff too Azul.The funny is that i'm born in Saturday.I don't know abt other countries but here people's like me curses are the biggest threat for superstitious guys.Ofcourse a few believe in those things but they survive through time.

So everyone knows who's fault if Puyol gets injured:D

[Strike]

Guys we have a too smal Squad. When you look at ManU or at
Real at Milan they have a big Squad.
So we play with a four man defense, and have only 6 defenders.
Thats much to little. Every position should be covered twice. So we need eight defenders. And a striker we need to. Midfield we need if Cocu has gone(Davids). I will say we should have a Squad of 26 (include the goalies) players.

[echobelly]

I think we have done a mistake by letting rivaldo grabbed by AC Milan , we obviously lack of an inspirator in midfield
someone who can play the ball and bring it forward
Rui costa or rivaldo would be great but we dont have any rivaldo anymore
or even players like rui costa

if the squad stays the same, we wont get any good result by the end of the season

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by funky6




So everyone knows who's fault if Puyol gets injured:D

Yes we do! :mad: Now you've done it!!! :fed-up: He should be back by Saturday. For your sake, he better be!!! :mad2:

[funky6]

I'd better keep my mouth shut from now on..:sealed::o

[BLAUGRANA]

Fernando Navarro is now out for the rest of the season. He suffered a serious knee injury in the 3-0 loss to Sevilla.

Unfortunately, this leaves our already thin defense even thinner.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Fernando Navarro is now out for the rest of the season. He suffered a serious knee injury in the 3-0 loss to Sevilla.

Unfortunately, this leaves our already thin defense even thinner.

This calls for a signing of a defender, because I don't want to see Christianval playing in our defence.

This should be it: De boer, Puyol, Reiziger, Gabri/ Andersson (How is he? injured?)

[barça]

Originally posted by Azerkid


This calls for a signing of a defender, because I don't want to see Christianval playing in our defence.

This should be it: De boer, Puyol, Reiziger, Gabri/ Andersson (How is he? injured?)

Out of the ones you have, the only one cleared to play is De Boer, although Puyol should be back by the weekend.

Anderson is out, no chance of playing and Reizinger is out for at least 6 more weeks. I have a feeling Van Gaal will play Gabri and if more help is needed, then he will ask Cocu or Motta to play back there. They will probably bring Gerad (I think thats his name?) from Barcelona B team.

God help us against Pandiani.

[Azerkid]

I dont care what people say but I think this year our squad is just not good enough. I guess optimism has covered up the truth. We let go Abelardo, Sergi, and Rivaldo and only signed Enke, Mendieta, and Riquelme. Enke and Mendieta turned out to be big blokes this year. We havent got anybody who can replace Rivaldo or do half of what he has done (Yes, I mean Riquelme hasnt done much even when he had his chances). And we have not signed any defenders, just a coach past him prime. (This isnt early-mid 90's LVG anymore!!!). I think we should have booted LVG than Rivaldo, just look what has Riva done and what LVG is doing. The only solution for this is for an emergency signing and/or a coaching change.

[BLAUGRANA]

Here it is from the club's official website. Nice to see that the lad seems to love the club. Enjoy:

30, DEC 02 12:30

Iniesta, a home grown pearl


Following recent League debut, Andrés Iniesta spoke exclusively to fcbarcelona.com about his progress and his hopes for the future.


Firstly, could you talk us through your time so far in Barça.

The truth is it's been pretty good so far. I've been lucky enough for things to go well and to have the confidence of the managers, and, of course, that's been very important. Right from the beginning in the boys teams, I've kept improving, and now I've made the breakthrough into the first team, I've got to keep working hard. I have to enjoy myself to the limit because it's an honour to be at the top surrounded by these great players. I have to enjoy my football and learn from them.

Where did Barça first spot you?

The Barça scouts first spotted me playing in a seven-a-side tournament in Albacete. I was chosen as best player and thanks to those scouts I can say now that I belong to a great Club like Barcelona.

What was it like at the beginning in Barça?

It was quite hard. You have to remember that I was only 12 when I came here, leaving behind my family in the village. I had quite a hard time, but thanks to all the people here, my team-mates and above all to the way we were treated in the "Masía" (the Barça football academy) everything became much easier.

What stands out for you in the "Masía" factory of dreams?

We're all strangers when we arrive at the "Masía" and this creates a feeling of companionship. Like I've said before, this makes for a great atmosphere, so it's easier to fit in. As for friendships, there's a bit of everything. Some people pass through the academy very quickly and there's hardly time to get to know them, while others can become close friends.

Which coach has helped you most since you've been here?

They've all been important, especially as they've all had confidence in me. However, Ángel Pedraza in the Youth squad was very important for me and the whole team. And I mustn't forget the coaches in Barça B. Costas, Rojo, Juanjo and Albert Capella are excellent people who help you a lot.

Is it a good idea to use the same systems of play in the lower squads as in the first team?

I think it's basic. If you accept that it's every young player's dream to break into the first team, there's no better way than to know how the first team plays right from the very beginning. It makes it easier when you finally make it.

Barça favours its home grown talent how do you view this?

Very positively. I believe that its important that the lads in the lower squads are excited about breaking into the first team. The fact that a number of our greatest players in recent years have come through the ranks is a real motivation. That's what home grown talent is for, to be there when the Club needs them.

Who's had the most influence on you as a player?

I've always liked Laudrup and,