Ajax Transfers and Transfer Rumours

[Always Laziali]

I heard that Ajax is selling Ibrahimovic?Is it true?I hope he joins Lazio.

[ilcapitano]

Azulgrana, in Inter forum you said something about Litmanen possibly moving back to Ajax...where did you hear this???, because its news to me...It would be great though, coming from Finland myself I would like to see him get the playing time he deserves. He could end his career big style in Ajax!

[BLAUGRANA]

Sup joonas. I've read it on the net in a few reports. Also, i've read van der Saar could be coming back. They have the right manager and a boatload of talent at the moment. It's time for Ajax to make another run for Europe. If they can keep a consistent group of players for a few seasons, another European Cup could be possible.

Ibrahimovich is probably for sale. He didn't have the best season with Ajax and they can get a 100% if not 200% return on their investment. Also, they have Machlas and the young EGYPTIAN Mido to lead their attack. If they got Litmanen too, they could easily sell Zlatan.

[Roberto Abrego]

AS Roma wants Zlatan.

[Always Laziali]

He is extremely skillful but he has a bad temper.

[ilcapitano]

It's interesting to see how he will perform for Sweden.
Van der Sar coming? That would be good, he is still a top keeper...who knows, maybe it will be like the mid-90s again :D

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by HernanCrespo
He is extremely skillful but he has a bad temper.

yes but a coach like Capeelo can control him,or any Italian coach from top team.

[Always Laziali]

You never know.Remember Anelka with Del Bosque?Suspended for 45 days without pay.What's more Anelka is just stubborn and arrogant,not hot-tempered.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by HernanCrespo
You never know.Remember Anelka with Del Bosque?Suspended for 45 days without pay.What's more Anelka is just stubborn and arrogant,not hot-tempered.

thats why

but I dont think he would like to go to AS ROma beacuse he hates to be bench.

[Always Laziali]

it's true and a club he might consider joining is Real Madrid as they have Raúl and Moríentes as their only strikers or Lazio who may sell López which means they have only 2 strikers in Crespo and Inzaghi.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by HernanCrespo
it's true and a club he might consider joining is Real Madrid as they have Raúl and Moríentes as their only strikers or Lazio who may sell López which means they have only 2 strikers in Crespo and Inzaghi. Crespo anmd lopez may go

[Always Laziali]

I do not think Crespo will leave as the bids of Real or Barca is not what Lazio wants.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by HernanCrespo
I do not think Crespo will leave as the bids of Real or Barca is not what Lazio wants.

but Manchester UTD beat is very good.

[Always Laziali]

Manchester United are im deep debt for increasing their jersey prices,they can't spend too much and so i doubt they will get Crespo.

[Roberto Abrego]

but I heard on Planetfootball that he was interested.

[Roberto Abrego]

I would like Oxana Fedorova´s autograph,she is damn good looking

[BLAUGRANA]

Who the hell is that?

[Roberto Abrego]

she is miss universe 2002.

[Always Laziali]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
but I heard on Planetfootball that he was interested.

Manchester United wants to sign 2 world class defenders which would cost them well over 70m euros.Lazio wants 65m euros for Crespo,if not they will not sell him.How can Manchester United pay 135m euros on transfer this season.What's more they are not selling any players.

[BLAUGRANA]

Yes, United do have a limit as to how much they can spend. However, they can still get Crespo if they want him and he agrees to the deal. He's not worth that much though and I hope Lazio get stuck with him. I PRAY BARCA DON'T GO IN FOR HIM, HE'S OVERPRICED. THAT'S NOT AN OPINION, IT'S FACT!!!

BTW Hernan Crespo, do you know you have a picture of Nesta under your name??? That's not Crespo!!!

[BLAUGRANA]

Actually, I'm not too sure who that is??? I say either Nesta, Simone Inzaghi or Castroman.

[Always Laziali]

Nesta will not leave as his value is 74m euros now.

[ilcapitano]

This AJAX thread is so ajax :D
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining...

[Always Laziali]

That is not too bad as we have talked about Ajax,Arsenal,Lazio an Barca here.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by HernanCrespo


Manchester United wants to sign 2 world class defenders which would cost them well over 70m euros.Lazio wants 65m euros for Crespo,if not they will not sell him.How can Manchester United pay 135m euros on transfer this season.What's more they are not selling any players.

they want Hofland and Mexés they are not that expensive
they will cost like 50m euros.
and they want Crespo and will send Veron and some cash that is what I heard.

[BLAUGRANA]

They have loaned out youngsters Fronio, Quansah and Obodai. Smart move. They're going to a top Belgian division club. I think they have some sort of deal with the club as they've loaned them out there before. The youth system seems to be working overtime with all the talent coming up.

[BLAUGRANA]

Koeman and Ajax are doing some reshuffling for next season. Zlatan Ibrahimovich and Richard Knopper have both been told they can leave. Also, Cedric Van der Gun, Pius Ikedia, Ferdi Vierklau, Abubakari Yakubu and Daniel Cruz are up for sale.

That's a lot of players. If we can get 15 million pounds or more for Zlatan, I say sell him. Knopper used to be a real prospect, but I don't know anymore if he's got it. I haven't seen him play, but I think he's often injured. Van der Gun has been injured too, but I'd keep him. I think he's good. Sell Vierklau. I'm not to sure about the others.

It's been rumoured that Van der Saar and Litmanen may return. I hope they do. I'd also like to see the De Boer twins come back and retire with Ajax, unless of course Frank wants to retire at Barca.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
They have loaned out youngsters Fronio, Quansah and Obodai. Smart move. They're going to a top Belgian division club. I think they have some sort of deal with the club as they've loaned them out there before. The youth system seems to be working overtime with all the talent coming up.

to Anderletch?

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Yes, United do have a limit as to how much they can spend. However, they can still get Crespo if they want him and he agrees to the deal. He's not worth that much though and I hope Lazio get stuck with him. I PRAY BARCA DON'T GO IN FOR HIM, HE'S OVERPRICED. THAT'S NOT AN OPINION, IT'S FACT!!!

BTW Hernan Crespo, do you know you have a picture of Nesta under your name??? That's not Crespo!!!

true.

[Roberto Abrego]

that guy is Alessandro Nesta.

[BLAUGRANA]

The Belgian side isn't Anderlecht.

[Roberto Abrego]

what is tne name of the Belgian side.

[Roberto Abrego]

What about Yosouf Hersi will he stay???

[BLAUGRANA]

I would think so, but I haven't heard anything.

That Mido is great. Egyptian striker. I think he's the reason they are willing to let Zlatan go. Well, that and the fact that he's a troublemaker.

[Always Laziali]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Yes, United do have a limit as to how much they can spend. However, they can still get Crespo if they want him and he agrees to the deal. He's not worth that much though and I hope Lazio get stuck with him. I PRAY BARCA DON'T GO IN FOR HIM, HE'S OVERPRICED. THAT'S NOT AN OPINION, IT'S FACT!!!

BTW Hernan Crespo, do you know you have a picture of Nesta under your name??? That's not Crespo!!!

I know i used to have Hernan Crespo's picture when he was young on my avatar but i changed it ever since.

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by azulgrana
I'd also like to see the De Boer twins come back and retire with Ajax, unless of course Frank wants to retire at Barca.
Me too.
van Gaal has allready sent off a couple long time serving defenders, maybe also De Boer?

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
I would think so, but I haven't heard anything.

That Mido is great. Egyptian striker. I think he's the reason they are willing to let Zlatan go. Well, that and the fact that he's a troublemaker. Zlatan is better than Machlas and Mido.

[BLAUGRANA]

Machlas yes, Mido I don't know. Mido really did well for Ajax last season. I think it's too early to make that call. Either way, for a club like Ajax that doesn't matter because they can't afford to hold on to Zlatan and hope he pans out. They need to cash in now.

[Always Laziali]

If they can sign outstanding players cheaply,they will become the Ajax that won the cl.

[Roberto Abrego]

Ronald Koeman said that Zlatan give his 50% at the games he played for Ajax.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by HernanCrespo
If they can sign outstanding players cheaply,they will become the Ajax that won the cl.

yes they can.

Zlatan,was the swedish with the higher transfer fee and was of 5.0L pounds not to much compared to other young players.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
The Belgian side isn't Anderlecht. Is Germinal Antwerp.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego


yes they can.

Zlatan,was the swedish(playing at Allsvenska) with the higher transfer fee and was of 5.0L pounds not to much compared to others ypung players like Saviola.

[Roberto Abrego]

Aaron Mokoena,will be playing next season for Antwerp again.
But if an English side offers him a good contract he may go



Some romours said that Ajax wil compete with newcastle for Litmanen.

[Always Laziali]

He is a very good defender,Aaron Mokoena.

[Roberto Abrego]

he is a good player.

[Always Laziali]

I wonder whether he will play for Ajax next season?

[BLAUGRANA]

No, I think his loan deal was extended another year too.

[Always Laziali]

It's a pity,he should play regularly for Ajax.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by HernanCrespo
I wonder whether he will play for Ajax next season?
no he will play his 3rd season at the Belgium League.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by HernanCrespo
It's a pity,he should play regularly for Ajax.


It is hard for him they r better mids than him at Ajax

[Always Laziali]

I thought he was a defender?

[BLAUGRANA]

I'm pretty sure he is a defender.

[Always Laziali]

I wonder why Roberto Abrego said he was a midfielder!

[Roberto Abrego]

beacuse he played at the NT as a midfielder sorry.


I havent seen him play at Antwerp..

[Always Laziali]

He is more defensive minded.He would fit nicely into Ajax defense.

[Roberto Abrego]

I heard Andre Bergdolmo is searching for a new team.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by HernanCrespo
He is more defensive minded.He would fit nicely into Ajax defense.


yes.

[Always Laziali]

Who is Bergdolmo is he an Ajax defender

[BLAUGRANA]

He's Norwegian and plays out at right back or in the center of the defense. I think Co Adriannse brought him in originally. I think he's expendable.

[Roberto Abrego]

but I think he is better than Ferdi Vierklau he should go beacuse he is old,Bergdolmo is not that young but is better than Vierklau.

[BLAUGRANA]

Sorry guys, not too much about Ajax in the news lately. Too bad I don't speak/read Dutch.

[Roberto Abrego]

me neither :(

[BLAUGRANA]

Chivu is keeping Ajax in the news. Real are still interested and Koeman is really sweating this one. He says he rates him very highly and says he can play in any big league. If he does leave, the team that gets him will have to pay the 17.5 million pound buyout clause in his contract. He'll be gone by the end of the 2003 summer.

[BLAUGRANA]

No news on his coming or going lately, but expect him to be sold this summer or next summer. I bet he's gonna before the start of this season.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
No news on his coming or going lately, but expect him to be sold this summer or next summer. I bet he's gonna before the start of this season.

yes,I think he will probably leave soon.


about Chivu,Koeman is resignated to loose him this year.

[BLAUGRANA]

Ajax are looking to sell part of their share in Belgian club Germinal Beerschot Antwerpen in an attempt to drum up some cash for transfers. Apparently the Sykora deal is not yet done, but could be soon as Vitesse need the cash and would probably be willing to part with the player for 2.5 million pounds.

[BLAUGRANA]

Ajax are unfortunately in the 4th pot of seeds for the Champion's League. IMO, they got the toughest group as the teams in their pot are teams they will not face. Guess we'll have to wait for the draw.

http://www.opta.co.uk/article.asp?id=98203&clid=215&cpid=9&Title=Gunners+and+Red+Devils+in+top+tier

[Roberto Abrego]

Why unffortunate if we r not going to face them????

[Roberto Abrego]

It looks like Ajax will face against very hard teams they were allocated in the easiest pot :(

[BLAUGRANA]

Vitesse have rejected Ajax's latest offer for Sykora. Fulham could be interested. Hopefully Ajax can still get him.

[Azerkid]

I hope Fulham get him if Ajax wont be able to.

[Azerkid]

Ajax was offering f1.3 million for him, dosnt sound like a bad offer ;)

[BLAUGRANA]

Yeah, but Vitesse want 4 million pounds for him. I think Ajax are considering a 2.5 million pound offer next.

[BLAUGRANA]

His loan spell at Alaves is over. I don't know where he'll fit in, but he sounds up to the challenge.


http://www.onefootball.com/index.phtml?page=fullstory&country_id=33&newsid=117417&

[BLAUGRANA]

Here's our official Transfers and Rumours thread. I'll start it by merging the old Ajax thread with it as it was largely rumour related.

[doz]

Ajax invite Real to bid for Chivu:

Ajax technical director Leo Beenhakker has admitted that the club are ready to sell Christian Chivu to Real Madrid - despite the Romania defender pledging his future to the Dutch champions last month.

"If Real come in with a concrete offer and are willing to pay the price we will talk about a transfer," explained Beenhakker. "But also if the bid is a bit lower we can talk. Many clubs, not just Ajax, need the money."

Chivu was a key figure in Ajax's title success last season, and Beenhakker admitted that in an ideal world there would be no question of the 21-year-old leaving the Amsterdam ArenA.

"Cris is a complete player," the Ajax chief told Spanish paper AS. "He has everything, he's physically strong, can play one on one, he is fast, strong in the build up and has a very good shot. And above that he is still young.

"I can't remember any central defender who was so experienced at just 21. Off the field, he is just as professional. In that aspect I would give him an A+."

Beenhakker's comments come just days after Chivu insisted that he was hoping to play for Ajax again next season. "In life it is important to think with the heart as well as the head," he said. "There will be offers next season, so I'm not worried.

"I am happy to stay at Ajax, where I feel very comfortable. I won two important trophies last season and we are confident of a good run in the Champions' League. There will be offers next season, so I'm not worried about my future."

Chivu's agent Giovanni Becali had earlier claimed that a £14 million deal was in place with Real, only for the European champions to ask Ajax for an extra fortnight so that they could raise funds by selling players.

Chivu, who joined Ajax from University Craiova in 1999, is also attracting interest from AC Milan. The Italian side are understood to have offered Georgia international Kakha Kaladze plus cash for the young Romanian

[BLAUGRANA]

If Chivu were to leave I'd much rather he went to Barca or even Inter and United. Anyone but Real. I understand Ajax's position financially though and these kind offers can't be turned down. They can get at least 3 good players with the kind of money they'll get for Chivu. I'd have preferred they kept him as they have a big campaign ahead of them considering they're in the CL this season. We'll have to see.

[BLAUGRANA]

Sikora looks to be headed to Fulham in a 3 million pound deal. Even if Ajax match that bid, I think the prospect of Premiership football is too strong. Maybe Ajax will just keep van der Meyde then. That's fine by me.

[Azerkid]

I also heard rumours of Van Der Meyde going to the EPL or La Liga, but i think he will stay at Ajax this season.

[BLAUGRANA]

He was on a list of transferable players at Ajax. I think he may stay though. The thing is Ajax need some cash to spend on newcomers. I think Chivu and probably Zlatan will be sold for the $ though.

[BLAUGRANA]

According to his agent, Zlatan is still in the Ajax shop window and they want to sell him.

[BLAUGRANA]

Valencia are saying that Barca can have Kily if they want him. The thing are forgetting to mention is that they want Barca to pay a boatload for him and that they won't negotiate with Barca. That's fine, because if they don't sell, they can't buy. Either way, I'm happy cause I don't want Kily at Barca.

[BLAUGRANA]

Maybe Sikora would prefer Ajax to Fulham as Ajax can offer Champion's League football.

[BLAUGRANA]

Sounds like it. Former manager and current technical director Leo Beenhakker says Chivu doesn't want to go and that Ajax want to keep him. Great news!!! :D

[Azerkid]

Sweden striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic has been charged with dangerous driving after police pulled him over in his Ferrari in Malmo city centre.

"He was overtaking cars by weaving in and out of the traffic," said policeman Lars Rosberg.

The controversial Ajax star is facing a hefty fine and was told that he was not allowed to drive his car home as the tax plate on his car was out of date.

Ibrahimovic protested: "I don't understand what they are talking about. They are telling me that I'm not allowed to drive my own car."

The police have confirmed that records prove that the lanky forward, who is reportedly a target of Italian giants Roma, has missed a payment of £90 to the Swedish tax authorities.

Rosberg explained that Ibrahimovic had been driving at the same speed as the rest of the traffic, but then suddenly pulled out and accelerated away at 70 kilometres an hour. The speed limit was 50 kilometres an hour.

A subsequent breath test showed that Ibrahimovic was not over the limit.

However, it is not the first driving offence that the former Malmo star has committed. A year ago, he lost his driving licence for three months after he was caught speeding.

The controversial 21-year-old featured as substitute in Sweden's World Cup campaign and is regarded as a key figure in the future of the national team.

However, he has been placed on the transfer market by his club Ajax who feel that they have too many forwards on their books to accommodate the big Swede. Ibrahimovic moved to the Amsterdam ArenA for £5 million in the March 2001.

[BLAUGRANA]

I read that one. Since this is the transfers/rumours thread I'll say this:

Just another reason why we should $ell him. He's a troublemaker and looks like the next Nico Anelka.

[Azerkid]

true

[BLAUGRANA]

Sikora for 2 million euros and Richard Knopper was turned down by Vitesse.

Litmanen not likely to come back this season.

Zlatan on loan to Roma. Loan?!?!?! We should sell him, not loan him.

[BLAUGRANA]

We only have this week to get him. I hope Ajax stump up the cash. Koeman isn't asking for much.

http://www.onefootball.com/index.phtml?page=fullstory&newsid=117837&country_id=33

[The Swede]

Originally posted by azulgrana
I read that one. Since this is the transfers/rumours thread I'll say this:

Just another reason why we should $ell him. He's a troublemaker and looks like the next Nico Anelka.

Zlatan is the best player that Ajax ever will get. Too bad that you cant handle a talent like that. I thought that was what you were good at?

[Roberto Abrego]

I agree with u,Zlatan is the best but he will leave,to Italy maybe I dont now why does Koeman preferes Machlas over him.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by The Swede


Zlatan is the best player that Ajax ever will get. Too bad that you cant handle a talent like that. I thought that was what you were good at?

Yeah, he's real talented isn't he! That's why he has yet to prove himself in any big league in Europe.

[The Swede]

I think he needs to get more chances and more ball. If the players doesnt pass him then he'll suck.

[BLAUGRANA]

Sure, that's how Ajax won the Championship last season. They played keep away from Zlatan. Look, he's probably gonna be good, but he has a long way to go and needs to grow up. Otherwise, he'll end up next to Anelka for a crap club like Man City.

[Azerkid]

He doesnt even shine much in NT he only has 1 or 2 goal and one of them came against a world-class side from Azerbaijan :rolleyes:

[BLAUGRANA]

Well, it now looks like he's staying. I think he could have a great season for Ajax this time around if he stays out of trouble. With the CL this season, he has a chance to shine.

[Azerkid]

We will see.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by Azerkid37
He doesnt even shine much in NT he only has 1 or 2 goal and one of them came against a world-class side from Azerbaijan :rolleyes:


he just had 1 goal beacuse he only played once at the 2002 WC qualifiers.


I hope he can get a regular spot beacuse Mido and Maclas are not even close at him he is much better ;)

[Azerkid]

Yes but he also played in many friendlies, he has 11 caps.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego



he just had 1 goal beacuse he only played once at the 2002 WC qualifiers.


I hope he can get a regular spot beacuse Mido and Maclas are not even close at him he is much better ;)

Mido was great for Ajax last year and Machlas is very consistent. Zlatan still has a lot to prove.

[DRUMan]

Sensi said that he will fight for him,cause he is young and brilliant.

[The Swede]

Originally posted by Azerkid37
He doesnt even shine much in NT he only has 1 or 2 goal and one of them came against a world-class side from Azerbaijan :rolleyes:

Mkay, think before u write. Do u think its easy to take the Golden Shoe winners place in the team (Henrik Larsson) or the one who scored very important goals in the qualifiers and became the coaches favourite (allback). Well with our NT-coaches it aint. They like to play with the same players all the time so it aint easy to get into the team. Zlatan has only played like 3 NT:s from start and has been great in most of the games he has come in as a sub.

Would also like to remind u that Zlatan was so generous to give u Ajax-fans the honour to see the best dribbling ever. If you missed the Ajax-Liverpool friendly (before last season) ill maybe be so nice to forgive u a bit. But a person who saw the look on Henchoz (or however its spelled) face after Zlatan had done the most amazing thing ever on a football-pitch, cant neglect that he is the biggest talent ever.

[Azerkid]

Yes, a friendly against Liverpool i'm sure the teams were figting for thier lives in this friendly, and Liver defending their heart-out :rolleyes:

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by The Swede


Mkay, think before u write. Do u think its easy to take the Golden Shoe winners place in the team (Henrik Larsson) or the one who scored very important goals in the qualifiers and became the coaches favourite (allback). Well with our NT-coaches it aint. They like to play with the same players all the time so it aint easy to get into the team. Zlatan has only played like 3 NT:s from start and has been great in most of the games he has come in as a sub.

Would also like to remind u that Zlatan was so generous to give u Ajax-fans the honour to see the best dribbling ever. If you missed the Ajax-Liverpool friendly (before last season) ill maybe be so nice to forgive u a bit. But a person who saw the look on Henchoz (or however its spelled) face after Zlatan had done the most amazing thing ever on a football-pitch, cant neglect that he is the biggest talent ever.


Swede, did you read my post earlier or you just dont understand what a CAP is? A cap is when he started on the pitch durng kick-off, and he did that about 11 times and only scored 1-2..... i guess that tells you how of a consstent NT scorer he is.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana


Mido was great for Ajax last year and Machlas is very consistent. Zlatan still has a lot to prove.


but he cant prove it beacuse they dont give him a chance!

[Azerkid]

Even when he does get the chance then Van Der Vaart still scores more durng that game.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego



but he cant prove it beacuse they dont give him a chance!

I think Mido and Zlatan would form a lethal partnership. I'd rather we sold Machlas and kept Zlatan.

[BLAUGRANA]

Fulham and Vitesse have agreed on a Sikora fee which only leaves it up to Sikora and Fulham to agree the players personal terms. :( Damn, I was hoping we'd get him for Koeman!

[BLAUGRANA]

As Sikora is headed for Fulham, Koeman has turned his attention to Ognjenovic formerly of Real Madrid in his search for a winger. He is now on trial at Ajax and currently belongs to Kaiserslautern.

[Robledo]

Ajax want Fabian Carini for next season.

http://www.juventuz.com/news/newsdisplay.php?http://www.juventuz.com/cgi-bin/news/fullnews.cgi?newsid1027093679,52293,?Nina

Is Fred Grim still 1st choice? If so , Carini would be a great coup

[Roberto Abrego]

he is not in the team anymore

[BLAUGRANA]

Great news as he was Koeman's #1 target. It appears that Fulham want to pay the transfer fee in 4 installments, but Vitesse are cash-strapped and don't like this idea. They are now willing to consider Ajax's lesser offer because they would at least get all the cash right away. I hope we get him.

[Azerkid]

Ajax have signed Vitesse winger Victor Sikora after Fulham's proposal has been rejected.

[Roberto Abrego]

great news :)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Azerkid37
Ajax have signed Vitesse winger Victor Sikora after Fulham's proposal has been rejected.

Yep, great signing I think. He's who Koeman wanted too, so the manager should be happy. Only 2.9 million pounds too, which is less than what Vitesse wanted. They needed the cash right away though.

[BLAUGRANA]

While Koeman said Litmanen is welcome to return to Ajax, the club have said his personal demands will be too much for the club. Maybe the lure of CL football and starting spot can get him to lower his demands, but I doubt it.

[BLAUGRANA]

Ajax have supposedly transfer listed Machlas with a 3.5 million pound price tag on his head. If he goes, hopefully we'll keep Zlatan!

[BLAUGRANA]

Ajax have picked up another winger. Nourdin Boukhari of Sparta has been signed. Sparta were relegated and in need of cash so they are selling their best players.

[BLAUGRANA]

I've read various reports that Roma have paid for the first refusal of Chivu. The thing is, this deal is supposedly through his agent. Such a deal should be through the club though if it is to mean anything. If Ajax agree a deal with say Real Madrid for Chivu, this reported deal with Roma will be meaningless.

[BLAUGRANA]

Ajax reportedly bid 1.2 million pounds for US and Chicago Fire winger DaMarcus Beasly. It was reportedly turned by the MLS too. The MLS really wants to hold on to it's stars.

[BLAUGRANA]

He could be sold in the next 6 months. His contract is up in a year and his buyout clause is 12.5 million pounds. That's a lot of money for a club like Ajax and they probably wouldn't turn it down if his contract is up. Chivu's agent says he'd sign for Real in a heartbeat.

[BLAUGRANA]

Knopper has been loaned out to Aris Salonika of Greece. Let's hope he does well there and returns to win a place in the Ajax side for next season.

Pius Ikedia has been loaned out to Gronigen.

These loan moves are so that Ajax don't have to pay for their salaries. The players can always make their way back into the side if they impress while out on loan. Also, Cedric Van Der Gun is available for sale or on loan. RBC Roosendahl is interested in taking him on loan.

[BLAUGRANA]

Ajax has a keeper crisis on their hands as both of their keepers are out for at least 6 weeks. Koeman has turned to Fred Grim and brought the 36 year old keeper back to Ajax. He did well last season and a fan favourite.

[BLAUGRANA]

Sunderland is reportedly interested in the striker along with another unamed English club rumoured to be United. Zlatan says he would love to play in England someday for either the Arsehole or United. I doubt he'd leave Ajax for Sunderland.

[BLAUGRANA]

Ajax have picked up AZ keeper Timmer on loan. He was on loan at Feyenoord last season.

[Azerkid]

I read about that, i heard he was a good keeper.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Azerkid
I read about that, i heard he was a good keeper.

Let's hope so. This whole keeper crisis could derail Ajax. I doubt it though, they're having an amazing preseason and look ready for the CL and the Eredivisie.

[BLAUGRANA]

Machlas is now for sale officially as he and Koeman had a bust up after the player was omitted from the Ajax lineup that faced PSV in the Dutch Supercup today (Sunday). He'll be priced around 3-3.5 million pounds with Spurs the leaders to land him according to the press.

I say get rid of him now. It will help in trimming the wage bill and solidify Mido and Zlatan's positions as the starting forwards. The two have been on fire all preseason long and hopefully any money we get/save will go some ways towards keeping Zlatan at the club longer.

[Azerkid]

I dont beleive the money is issue with Zlatan, I think if Ajax have a great season, and clear the space for Zlatan by selling Machlas, and also keeping Mido & Van der vaart then he will stay...... for me i think he will stay if hes happy in Ajax not because of money because he's always gonna make money because he's good so theres not much worry for that.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Azerkid
I dont beleive the money is issue with Zlatan, I think if Ajax have a great season, and clear the space for Zlatan by selling Machlas, and also keeping Mido & Van der vaart then he will stay...... for me i think he will stay if hes happy in Ajax not because of money because he's always gonna make money because he's good so theres not much worry for that.

Money is the issue. It's not that Zlatan wants more money, it's that a club like Ajax will find it difficult to keep him around when the big clubs come calling. Look how difficult it was for Ajax to find the cash for Sikora, and he only cost about 3 million pounds.

[The Swede]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Money is the issue. It's not that Zlatan wants more money, it's that a club like Ajax will find it difficult to keep him around when the big clubs come calling. Look how difficult it was for Ajax to find the cash for Sikora, and he only cost about 3 million pounds.

I agree, it will probably be Ajax who sell Zlatan and not Zlatan who wants to leave Ajax. But when they decide to sell Zlatan they might try and to make it look like it Zlatan who wants to leave so the fans wont be pizzed at the club.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Money is the issue. It's not that Zlatan wants more money, it's that a club like Ajax will find it difficult to keep him around when the big clubs come calling. Look how difficult it was for Ajax to find the cash for Sikora, and he only cost about 3 million pounds.

I understand what youre, saying and thats Z doesnt want more money from Ajax just the used for the club its self (transfers, signings, and etc), but i still dont think that big money is gonna presuade him to a big club this if it would, then he would have
been long gone since Roma offerd 12million for him last year especilly when he played behing Machlas.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Machlas is now for sale officially as he and Koeman had a bust up after the player was omitted from the Ajax lineup that faced PSV in the Dutch Supercup today (Sunday). He'll be priced around 3-3.5 million pounds with Spurs the leaders to land him according to the press.

I say get rid of him now. It will help in trimming the wage bill and solidify Mido and Zlatan's positions as the starting forwards. The two have been on fire all preseason long and hopefully any money we get/save will go some ways towards keeping Zlatan at the club longer.

Machlas has met with Adrianse and Koeman. He is back in the first squad, but will have to pay a fine to the club. He is also behind Mido and Zlatan in the order of first choice strikers.

[ilcapitano]

These Ajax forwards really have some temperament problems...they always bitching like this? You need to get Litmanen back, he would nevet do stuff like that.
I'm going to Amsterdam a week from now and was hoping to see an Ajax game maybe, but it turns out they don't have any home matches then :(

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Sunderland is reportedly interested in the striker along with another unamed English club rumoured to be United. Zlatan says he would love to play in England someday for either the Arsehole or United. I doubt he'd leave Ajax for Sunderland.


their are only 2 clubs for him in England the great ARSENAL...

and manchester united..he said he wont play in any other team....

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Machlas is now for sale officially as he and Koeman had a bust up after the player was omitted from the Ajax lineup that faced PSV in the Dutch Supercup today (Sunday). He'll be priced around 3-3.5 million pounds with Spurs the leaders to land him according to the press.

I say get rid of him now. It will help in trimming the wage bill and solidify Mido and Zlatan's positions as the starting forwards. The two have been on fire all preseason long and hopefully any money we get/save will go some ways towards keeping Zlatan at the club longer.

I think Koeman and Machlas are friends again :rolleyes:

and he will stay..

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by joonas78
These Ajax forwards really have some temperament problems...they always bitching like this? You need to get Litmanen back, he would nevet do stuff like that.
I'm going to Amsterdam a week from now and was hoping to see an Ajax game maybe, but it turns out they don't have any home matches then :(
I miss Litmanen...:(

I hope El principito returns to Ajax or Barca :)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by joonas78
These Ajax forwards really have some temperament problems...they always bitching like this? You need to get Litmanen back, he would nevet do stuff like that.
I'm going to Amsterdam a week from now and was hoping to see an Ajax game maybe, but it turns out they don't have any home matches then :(

It's just Machlas. Mido has never complained and Zlatan seems content at the moment.

You should check out Ajax's official website. I think they set up visits. You could probably catch a training session and even get photos with the players. Check out Ajax USA's website too. They talk about the details.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego

I miss Litmanen...:(

I hope El principito returns to Ajax or Barca :)

Ajax can't meet his wage demands, so he ain't coming.

[BLAUGRANA]

Juve are reportedly interested in Mido as cover for their strikers.

[Roberto Abrego]

I hope he and ajax reject this offer.....

It will be bette rif we keep him for 1 or 2 more years so he can get more value and go to Barcelona,Arsenal,or Milan!

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Ajax can't meet his wage demands, so he ain't coming.


yes I heard that today :(

he said that Ajax were offering a contract for a very well paid 2nd team player rather than a 1st team player salary....
and he said that he went to Liverpool to be a winner!

but I dont understand why he didnt wen to Arsenal then?:confused:

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
I hope he and ajax reject this offer.....

It will be bette rif we keep him for 1 or 2 more years so he can get more value and go to Barcelona,Arsenal,or Milan!

Yes, to your favorite teams ;) :D :silly:

[ilcapitano]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego

and he said that he went to Liverpool to be a winner!

but I dont understand why he didnt wen to Arsenal then?:confused:

Hahaha...he is stupid to stay in Liverfool, because he will never secure a first team position there. He doesn't fit in Houllier's tactics, because he isn't so fast, not so hot in winning crosses and can't defend. He would rock as an attacking midfielder, a traditional playmaker.
But his wages really went to another dimension with the Barcelona move, and he isn't ready to earn less :grumpy:.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by Azerkid


Yes, to your favorite teams ;) :D :silly:


:D Ajax is my favourite dutch side thats why I want to see him play more time,so he can move to 1 of my favourite teams..then..:D

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by joonas78


Hahaha...he is stupid to stay in Liverfool, because he will never secure a first team position there. He doesn't fit in Houllier's tactics, because he isn't so fast, not so hot in winning crosses and can't defend. He would rock as an attacking midfielder, a traditional playmaker.
But his wages really went to another dimension with the Barcelona move, and he isn't ready to earn less :grumpy:.

but he cant return to Barcelona,it will be harder for him to find 1st team play,harder than Liverpool...

[ilcapitano]

I never meant to suggest that. Just that his wage demands went too high after leaving Ajax. Too bad, I was hoping for his return.
Who do you think will be the biggest threats to Ajax this season?
Same old PSV and Feyenoord?

[Roberto Abrego]

PSV,Feyenoord,and Heerenveen.....

but I think we will win the Eredivise title again ;)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
PSV,Feyenoord,and Heerenveen.....

but I think we will win the Eredivise title again ;)

Diddo. The big three all have strong sides though. I hope they all make waves in Europe.

[Roberto Abrego]

but I thin k Ajax is most superior to the rest of the teams

I think it will be a hard fought for 2nd between PSV,Feyenoord,and Heerenveen....

[BLAUGRANA]

Juve are reportedly interested in our starlet striker. He's also been rumoured to have signed a pre-contract with them, but he denies this.

[BLAUGRANA]

Ajax have turned down what a 6 million pound bid from Sunderland for the striker. Well of course they did. Mackems.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Ajax have turned down what a 6 million pound bid from Sunderland for the striker. Well of course they did. Mackems.

ye he is loyal to the club.....so far, well have to wait and see if they are loyal to him.

[Roberto Abrego]

He doesnt like mid-class teams like Sunderland....

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
He doesnt like mid-class teams like Sunderland....

While the EPL would have been a step up, Sunderland wouldn't have. He'll be fine at Ajax cause we got CL football for him.

[Roberto Abrego]

yes staying at Ajax will be much better for him...

[Azerkid]

But what i'm saying is he wont just run out of the team becasue he got a great offer from a team like Sunderland or some other mid-EPL team, so basically he not about the money but is for the team and winning.

[Roberto Abrego]

yes he only plays for winners ;)

[BLAUGRANA]

Well, I thought I had this thread up before, but it seems to be gone. Either that, or my memory is going. :D Anyway, this will be the thread for Ajax transfer and transfer rumour discussion.

[BLAUGRANA]

Ajax are rumoured to be after Mario Melchiot. I heard that the fee would be 5 million pounds. That's probably more than Ajax could afford, but Chelsea are in severe debt so maybe that could be negotiated downwards. I'd take him back though.

[Roberto Abrego]

yes they have to beacuse that price is to much for him....

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
yes they have to beacuse that price is to much for him....

I think it's a pretty fair price for him. He's done pretty well for Chelsea. He's also a bridge fav.

[Roberto Abrego]

I think we dont need an extra D!

[Roberto Abrego]

but 5m???I think is to much he havent played really well from what I seen...

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
but 5m???I think is to much he havent played really well from what I seen...

We couldn't afford him at 5 million pounds anyway. He's versatile though. He can play CB, RB or on the right wing. That's why Koeman wants him. And with the injuries hitting Ajax at the moment, he wouldn't be a bad player to have around.

[Roberto Abrego]

well yes our only problem is the injuries..thats the only thing that makes me to want him to be on the team....

I really like that guy Azar Karadas from Rosenborg he is young I will love if Rosenborg selled him,he was amazing against Inter and he played well against Lyon even thought they were totally outclassed by Lyon....I hope Koeman plays attention to him when we face them tommorow...and he can play as a Fw and as a Df!!!

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
well yes our only problem is the injuries..thats the only thing that makes me to want him to be on the team....

I really like that guy Azar Karadas from Rosenborg he is young I will love if Rosenborg selled him,he was amazing against Inter and he played well against Lyon even thought they were totally outclassed by Lyon....I hope Koeman plays attention to him when we face them tommorow...and he can play as a Fw and as a Df!!!

Rosenborg have had some good players over the past few years. The clubs CL experience has really benefitted them I think.

I'm not too familiar with Karadas, but Ajax does have a reputation for picking up good young talent.

[Roberto Abrego]

yes!i hope they have notice about him already....


They have bought good Norweigan players like Bergdølmo :D

[soccer fanatic]

I don`t think we need Melchiot. his fee is way to high for a player who probably will only play if Trabelsi gets injured. I don`t see Melchiot winning the battle with Trabelsi for first team football. Heitinga is injured for 6 months (his knee) but to get a replacement of that price is insane. If something happens to Trabelsi, De Jong can play as a RB, even Bergdolmo can. Ajax did get rid off Vierklau, who was a RB, perhaps a sign? Is Melchiot willing to come back to Ajax, is he interested?

We have enough players and if we are going to spend 5m we should go after a good central midfielder. Winter, Witschge, and Van Halst aren`t good enough anymore. Litmanen and Van der Vaart are more injured than fit, and Pienaar is to inexperienced to play in the big matches, although he wasn`t bad against Lyon. Galasek is great, he works very hard, has good passing and doesn`t know what an injury is. PSV are talking about getting Cocu back, we have to try to do the same thing. Perhaps after this year Davids can be persuaded. Probably not but he is exactly what we need.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
I don`t think we need Melchiot. his fee is way to high for a player who probably will only play if Trabelsi gets injured. I don`t see Melchiot winning the battle with Trabelsi for first team football. Heitinga is injured for 6 months (his knee) but to get a replacement of that price is insane. If something happens to Trabelsi, De Jong can play as a RB, even Bergdolmo can. Ajax did get rid off Vierklau, who was a RB, perhaps a sign? Is Melchiot willing to come back to Ajax, is he interested?

We have enough players and if we are going to spend 5m we should go after a good central midfielder. Winter, Witschge, and Van Halst aren`t good enough anymore. Litmanen and Van der Vaart are more injured than fit, and Pienaar is to inexperienced to play in the big matches, although he wasn`t bad against Lyon. Galasek is great, he works very hard, has good passing and doesn`t know what an injury is. PSV are talking about getting Cocu back, we have to try to do the same thing. Perhaps after this year Davids can be persuaded. Probably not but he is exactly what we need.

Melchiot has been in and out of the Chelsea side this season, splitting time at the right back position with Albert Ferrer. Koeman says they are monitoring the situation. He wants to strenghthen the side if Ajax are in a good position in the CL come the winter transfer window.

Van Halst had good season last year. I don't know about this season, but he played a big part last season especially in the second half of it. Galasek is amazing though. He has been great ever since they picked him up. I think he's a real fan fav too.

Ajax can't afford Davids now nor will they be able to next summer. Even if they could, I think he'd prefer somewhere else. I'd like to see him return too though. Maybe someday. If Ajax lose Chivu, perhaps they could pick up FDB next summer. He'll be available on a free.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
I don`t think we need Melchiot. his fee is way to high for a player who probably will only play if Trabelsi gets injured. I don`t see Melchiot winning the battle with Trabelsi for first team football. Heitinga is injured for 6 months (his knee) but to get a replacement of that price is insane. If something happens to Trabelsi, De Jong can play as a RB, even Bergdolmo can. Ajax did get rid off Vierklau, who was a RB, perhaps a sign? Is Melchiot willing to come back to Ajax, is he interested?

We have enough players and if we are going to spend 5m we should go after a good central midfielder. Winter, Witschge, and Van Halst aren`t good enough anymore. Litmanen and Van der Vaart are more injured than fit, and Pienaar is to inexperienced to play in the big matches, although he wasn`t bad against Lyon. Galasek is great, he works very hard, has good passing and doesn`t know what an injury is. PSV are talking about getting Cocu back, we have to try to do the same thing. Perhaps after this year Davids can be persuaded. Probably not but he is exactly what we need.
Davids?I think is to much his price was 15m this year I think? and we dont have the money to pay that...and I dont think he will like to come back beacue many Serie A teams are chasing him....We should think in a more reallistic midfielder like Kim Kallström from DIF he is avery talented mid I will love to see him played abroad....

[just4ajax]

Perhaps, Koeman saw a blank in our team, so he wanna fill it by signing new position. Melchiot, he will play for Ajax or will not, no one knows, however, 5 m it's high price. Ajax unusually show their transfer's price. Thus it's not for sure until we can see him in our team.
Chivu, i think he'll stay as long as possible. Due to he anoucced that he prefered staying at Ajax when Real wanted him. Not really but one of the reasons: Johan is his idol, and he likes Holland soccer. If i am right, his contact's until 2006 (?)

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego

Davids?I think is to much his price was 15m this year I think? and we dont have the money to pay that...and I dont think he will like to come back beacue many Serie A teams are chasing him....We should think in a more reallistic midfielder like Kim Kallström from DIF he is avery talented mid I will love to see him played abroad....

you never know. If juve buy some new players Davids can easily end up on the bench. wouldn`t be the first time right? But I just meant to say he is what we need, in that post I already mentioned Davids probably isn`t interested.

[soccer fanatic]

Van Halst was a very important player last year. I like Van Halst and am very happy for his comeback after being treated very badly, but now I doubt his fighting spirit is enough to be a regular first team player. He is getting older and his passing isn`t great.
Ajax probably will play with Litmanen and Van der Vaart and one of Galasek and Van Halst. My choice would be Galasek, I think Koeman will agree. I can`t believe that if both Litmanen and Van der Vaart are fit that one of them, and that will be Litmanen, will be benched.

[Roberto Abrego]

I agree!

[soccer fanatic]

Perhaps of interest for some of you. Ajax made a record loss this year of around 26 Million Euro`s. Mostly because of lack of transfer income and the sattelite teams. Ofcourse also the huge selection who all make salaries which would would made Freddy Heineken (if he was still alive) jealous are partly the reason. But next year things probably be better. Being in the CL and dumping sattelite club GBA is a good step. Next summer we will probably make some cash on a big transfer on either Chivu or Van der Vaart.

So don`t worry, we will be allright. :)
We are not as deep in as some teams in another league. :rolleyes:

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Ajax shouldnt sell Chivu, ewenthall they are in lose. He´s one of the gamer cariers, and if they lose him, it would be asame, as they would lose paolo Maldini(I thunk you know who he is, by the way, I dont´t get it, the he´s geting with years beter, what we cant saj for Fernando Hiero).
Davids will porhaps go to Barcelona, we know, the Barca is crazy on Dutch player(Cocu, F.De Boer, Kluivert, i think some time ago also Van Hooijdonk-I love him, present coach of Ajax Cueman and so on),...

Ajax could sell Ibrahimoviè, I heard somewhere he´s wanted in Premiership, Seria A and Primiera Division),... They have apropriate replacement for him, Egyptan Midu.

But they realy dont have a lot of luck with goalkeppers.

One question, you must know, if Ajax was interested for 17-old Striker, at moment playing for Bayern´s Munich youth team(U-21), Borut Semler?

[soccer fanatic]

One question, you must know, if Ajax was interested for 17-old Striker, at moment playing for Bayern´s Munich youth team(U-21), Borut Semler? [/B]

To be honest I don`t, do you have a source?

I heard rumours, just rumours about a guy called Revzan Rat (a LB at Rapid Boekarest) and a player called Kim Kallstrom a midfielder of Djungardens IF. These are just rumours.

I also heard rumours about Zlatan Ibrahimovic, for a move to Barca or AS Roma, As Roma looks of the rails, because their accounts are frozen.

These are all rumours. About Chivu, I don`t want him to leave, we probably do`t have a choice. Chivu said very often he loved playing for Ajax, lets hope he stays, but I fear a big money transfer, currently Chivu is simply unmissable.

Please inform me about Semler, is it somewhat serious?

[BLAUGRANA]

Being Barca fans as well, we're a bit biased. Think about it though, if Ajax did lose Chivu wouldn't we prefer losing him to Barca as opposed to Real Madrid or Roma.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Being Barca fans as well, we're a bit biased. Think about it though, if Ajax did lose Chivu wouldn't we prefer losing him to Barca as opposed to Real Madrid or Roma.

Sorry to say this, Ajax still is my first concern with big distance. Chivu is to important to loose right now, but that won`t change. If we loose him I would love to see him join Barca, but not as charity!! Barca will have to pay up bigtime.

That was my concern about that (fictional!) deal we talked about between Ajax and Barca, that Barca gets first option. We need to keep our options open to sell Chivu for the highest possible price.

If Barca offers 20 million and Real offers 40, well... .... ....
They have to pay up, than it is up to the player. Chivu doesn`t really talk much about where he wants to go. Perhaps he doesn`t want to leave.

Think of it as from an Ajax point of view, it isn`t easy to see all people already divivding up our Christian Chivu, because he still is!! Tough to stay calm sometimes if other people already lined them up in their squads next years line up.

He is so great, he even gave football practise a couple of times to kids who play on amateur level. He is amazing, he truly is a sincerely good person, unbelievable.

You might have noticed I`m very fond of him, he is my favourite player of the world right now. :)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic




You might have noticed I`m very fond of him, he is my favourite player of the world right now. :)

Of course Barca will have to pay big bucks for him, but don't worry mate. We'll take good care of him (along with van der Vaart and Koeman)! :D ;)

[BENTEX]

I thought ajax was going to buy babos from NAC ?

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Of course Barca will have to pay big bucks for him, but don't worry mate. We'll take good care of him (along with van der Vaart and Koeman)! :D ;)

Damn you, damn you all!!! :D

Barca couldn`t affort it mate.
That makes me happy and sad at the same time.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by BENTEX
I thought ajax was going to buy babos from NAC ?

Not anymore, I think, they were considering it a year ago, but with the purchase of Timmer and the surprisingly good Maarten Stekelenburg, we don`t need him anymore.

Welcome BTW on WSB.

Are you an Ajaxfan?

[BENTEX]

no not really i just like waching them .

how do you rate babos ?

would you be happy with him @ Ajax ?

[soccer fanatic]

I think it is an amazing goalie, when I heard Ajax were following him, I hoped we would be able to snatch him.

Things have changed, we now have four(!) quality goalkeepers, from whom one is rented. Three is the number a team should have, with back up from the youth teams. I don`t think we need anymore goalies. I still think Babos is great, absolutely.

[soccer fanatic]

Like some of you might know, Zlatan misbehaved and had a little talk about it with Koeman. For me I had it, Ajax players shouldn`t just hit people. I think he is quite good, but if he doesn`t learn to behave he should go. Therefore if we get enough for him bid, I say let him leave.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Ibrahimoviè having problems, havent heard that. One year ago I did hear, he was not happy with notplaying status. But if there are problems, they should at least 10m get for him.

Denis Bergkamp, he recently said, he wishes to leave England and he´s geting tired, not being at home, and he was linked to Ajax, do you know something about that?

If Chivu should go, then poheaps Ajax can change him for the Sved guy, Anderson(defender), who hasnt played match at Barca,...

Can you please write on, in which countries does Ajax have satelite clubs? Have you consider about Piotr Arthur Trochowski, polish nationality, but plays for Germany, he´s been realy incredible at European Championship, some months ago, where they lost in final with Spain 1:0,...

[BLAUGRANA]

I don't think we need a keeper. Stekelenburg I think will be the #1 keeper. I wouldn't mind it if van der Saar came back one day on a FREE transfer either. We just don't need a new keeper though. What we need is a HEALTHY keeper.

[BLAUGRANA]

He should be travelling with the squad to Lyon and could be back very soon. Here's to his speedy return. I think if Koeman can keep van der Vaart and Litmanen in the lineup together, Ajax could be deadly.

[soccer fanatic]

What is your source?

I know he started training again, but is he already this close to playing? That would be great, he could start with not much pressure, because the Lyon match won`t be the decisive one, winning would improve our chances, but we would still have to get a result against Inter.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
He should be travelling with the squad to Lyon and could be back very soon. Here's to his speedy return. I think if Koeman can keep van der Vaart and Litmanen in the lineup together, Ajax could be deadly.

I heard yesterday that VDV is back indeed. He will start on the bench, but could come on to the field, he is ready. Litmanen was doubtfull, but will probably make it. Great news, sorry for doubting you.

Jelle van Damme is suspended, Nigel de Jong or more likely Maxwell will take his place.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic


Great news, sorry for doubting you.



You should be!!! ;) I would have given you my source had I seen you asking for it. Don't worry mate, I don't post too much that's in the realm of fantasy. If I do, I usually say so.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

I hope the Recoba wont play, that would very increase your cnaces,...

[soccer fanatic]

We won our CL match against Lyon, check the CL thread, poule D for a short summary. We play Inter over two weeks.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
He should be travelling with the squad to Lyon and could be back very soon. Here's to his speedy return. I think if Koeman can keep van der Vaart and Litmanen in the lineup together, Ajax could be deadly.

He`s back! :D

YEEHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry about that. :D

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Was it a good goal, or not?

I hears, the reffere judged for you, when Sony Anderson almost scored?

[FCBBarcaAjax]

The Semler thing:
He was choosen for the best player in tournament in madrid(asame playground as real madrid),and he alledge had offers to go to Newcastle and Ajax. There´s a picture:
http://www.nogomania.net/clanki/2002/24/semler/4_s.jpg

Just kidding, He´s slvenian nationlaity, played at first league Mura some time in SLovenia, then Varteks, at the moment in Munich,...

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
Was it a good goal, or not?

I hears, the reffere judged for you, when Sony Anderson almost scored?

Well, he was in the right place at the best time, like he always is, he scored well with his right, considering he is a lefty.

I`m doubtfull but most people say the ball was over the line.
Chivu reacted after the match he was 100 percent sure the ball didn`t pass the line. for us it was hard to see, the camera wasn`t on the goal line. I think it was over the line, but am definetly not sure.

You didn`t hear anybody about the not given penalty for a foul on Chivu in the first half, when it still was 1-0. Chivu`s red card is still doubtfull. Ajax got a lot of doubtfull calls against them, Lyon has no right to complain about the ref more than Ajax.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

So do you think you can stand a chance against Inter? I mean you´re gonna be without your defence leader!

I hope´ll go on!

[soccer fanatic]

At home we can beat everybody, with or without Chivu. Don`t forget, we have Van der Vaart back. Inter is overrated anyway. Koeman stated that his biggest fear in this group was Lyon, although we beat them twice and lost to Inter, I think he was and is right. We should be able to beat inter, maybe it won`t be necesarry, if Lyon don`t beat Rosenborg in their away game, Ajax will advance no matter the result.

But we will win. :)

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Thank god, the Roseborg plays better as it looks on the scale,...

Why couldn´t you win at least one game with Rosenborg?

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
Thank god, the Roseborg plays better as it looks on the scale,...

Why couldn´t you win at least one game with Rosenborg?

Rosenborg away is simply diificult, Inter also proved that. At home they were under pressure the whole match, Ajax did get chances, but scored not enough. Rosenborg came back in the match, scored there only real chance.

Its bad luck, before half time we should have been up 2 or 3, but we were not. That is football. Ah well, we will just have to beat Inter.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Only six more days. But you realy are in very complicated group, no one has the card to go on yet. Let¨s hope Iter will fell into a crisis,...

[BLAUGRANA]

Machlas is rumoured to be wanting a move during the January transfer window. I say let him go and give one of the youngsters a chance.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Machlas is rumoured to be wanting a move during the January transfer window. I say let him go and give one of the youngsters a chance.

In the summer he was rumoured to join the Spurs. Ajax wants to dump him, we have enough great attackers.

Its still terrible we lost Nando Rafael.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

I just opened a new topic about that. Look in Ajax sector. Can someone give me some information about him.

Pienarr has showen a lot, like also Midu,...

[BLAUGRANA]

Based on Koeman's comments, it sounds like Machlas could be headed for the exit door. When the January transfer window opens, Ajax will be listening to offers.

[BLAUGRANA]

This from Skysports:

When asked which Ajax players could make an impact in Serie A, the Romanian international was very open on the subject.

"I think Rafael van der Vaart is ready for Italy," he admitted.

"He is not a talent anymore. He is a big player.

"Then Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Hatem Trabelsi.

"And Chivu? Thank you. I will go to Italy when I am ready for a league like Serie A.

"Only this season I discovered the major soccer, in the Champions League, as before I played only in Holland, and it is not enough to make the big jump.

"Yes, I had talks with Inter last year but I was not ready," he revealed to planetfootball.com.

"Yes, I think I am ready now. After the game I played against Inter in San Siro.

"Italy or Spain is the same. Inter or Juve are the same, but Milan has the fashion.

"Yet Juve have Lilian Thuram and Pavel Nedved, my favourites.

"At Milan, though, there is Alessandro Nesta. One of my role models."




He and VDV are definately ready for the big stage. I'd tip Zlatan and Trabelsi for moves perhaps next season.

[hallee]

All the european clubs are in financial troubles right? with what money they want to buy chivu and VDV??

I hope they play for another 1-2 seasons for us!

[BLAUGRANA]

Spurs, Boro and Parma are reportedly interested in Trabelsi.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Club must sell some players, because theyre in lost. Selling Chivu(number over 18m) is an investment, there´s a lot of defenders, like Anderson porheapse,... At moment I dont remember,.... :)

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
Club must sell some players, because theyre in lost. Selling Chivu(number over 18m) is an investment, there´s a lot of defenders, like Anderson porheapse,... At moment I dont remember,.... :)

We don`t exactly have to sell Chivu, we are still a healthy club.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic


We don`t exactly have to sell Chivu, we are still a healthy club.

Well, there is this little past taxes bill Ajax will now have to pay. It's reportedly for 2.5 million euros.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Well, there is this little past taxes bill Ajax will now have to pay. It's reportedly for 2.5 million euros.

I heard it was 5.2 million euros. This won`t make us broike either, but it does suck. It is money we could have bought Stefanovic with as replacement for Chivu.

Could be worse, we could be in deep as Feyenoord. :)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic


I heard it was 5.2 million euros. This won`t make us broike either, but it does suck. It is money we could have bought Stefanovic with as replacement for Chivu.

Could be worse, we could be in deep as Feyenoord. :)

The headline of the article said 2.5 million while inside the article it said 5.2 million. Based on what I read, the 2.5 sounds more realistic. Either way, it's not money that we should be shelling out now as this should have been taken care of in the past. Also, the club reportedly tax irregularities. That's not a good sign. I hope the club is being mis-managed.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA

Also, the club reportedly tax irregularities. That's not a good sign. I hope the club is being mis-managed.

Ofcourse Ajax didn`t play by the rules, but most Dutch clubs probably don`t. Feyenoord is also under investigation. Don`t be to worried about it, ofcourse the fine is big, but football clubs are being victimised by the investigators, we are used as a public example that there is supervision on big companies. They are to scared or lazy to really go after the big ones. Most Dutch news sources say it is 5.2 million Euros. It is a lot of money.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Is it true Van den Vart is sopowsto be leaving Ajax?

Besaise if you sell van den Vart, Chivu you have more than 40m cash!

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
Is it true Van den Vart is sopowsto be leaving Ajax?

Besaise if you sell van den Vart, Chivu you have more than 40m cash!

With VDV and Chivu you can win matches, with 40 million you can`t, unless perhaps Jol is the ref.

It is all rumours, nothing is concrete yet.

[soccer fanatic]

20 November:
"We have been anticipating his departure since last season. We already know who will replace him when he goes."
- Ronald Koeman about Cristian Chivu's anticipated departure, in Voetbal International magazine.

We are prepared. I think he is talking about Stefanovic. :)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
20 November:
"We have been anticipating his departure since last season. We already know who will replace him when he goes."
- Ronald Koeman about Cristian Chivu's anticipated departure, in Voetbal International magazine.

We are prepared. I think he is talking about Stefanovic. :)

Maybe he's talking about De Jong. Who knows. Can you tell me anything about Stefanovic?

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Maybe he's talking about De Jong. Who knows. Can you tell me anything about Stefanovic?

Ofcourse that is an option too. I think Koeman wants an experienced defender, Chivu might be young but is an experienced player, a leader, KJoeman probably goes for someone like him too replace him.

Stefanovic is a central defender, currently playing for Koeman`s old club Vitesse Arnhem, who need money to survive. Stefanbovic is seen as the best defensive guard (Don`t know the English word.) in Holland. It is clear to me Ajax probably can`t find a defender like Chivu, who is very good in both defending and setting up attacks, Stefanovic is our best choice. If you need more information about Stegfanovic, lert me know.

[BLAUGRANA]

Frank could return to Ajax next summer. He reportedly told a Dutch radio station he'd like to return and retire there. He could be Chivu's replacement.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Frank could return to Ajax next summer. He reportedly told a Dutch radio station he'd like to return and retire there. He could be Chivu's replacement.

I prefer Stefanovic. FDB isn`t good enough anymore to be the defensive leader of Ajax. He is getting old and always has this one mistake in a match. (But you probably know that.)

Stefanovic still is in his prime, topfit and a real pro, not a backstabbing, money loving traitor.

I forgave him, respect his qualities, but don`t want him back. Let him finish his career for Go Ahead Eagles, serves him right. :)

[BLAUGRANA]

Ajax should decide by the end of next week whether or not Chilean defender Ponce will be staying after his trial. The defender wants to stay with the club. Here are his comments from Sky:


"I am very happy about all that I am living," stated Ponce.

"The other day, I spoke to Koeman but up until now, nobody has told me anything about my future.

"I hope that after what I have done in this match something positive happens to me."

[soccer fanatic]

In a Dutch newspaper its stated that the transfer of Chivu will almost certain take place at the end of next season. Real Madrid look set to offer 20 million Euros for the player, his succeeder will be acoording to the paper Frank de boer:(.

The paper looked sure, but I want to let you know that it isn`t exactly the best paper we have, still high above thosae English gossip like papers. I think they are writing the thruth this time.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

resnouble replacement. But why dont you try with some younger players. Like Lehman(somewhere in englad, german 19 international, impressed me in euro in holland),...

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
resnouble replacement. But why dont you try with some younger players. Like Lehman(somewhere in englad, german 19 international, impressed me in euro in holland),...

Probably because for the price he will cost, if not free (Azulgrana?) he is a good buy. I`d rather have Stefanovic or if possible Stam. :)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic


Probably because for the price he will cost, if not free (Azulgrana?) he is a good buy. I`d rather have Stefanovic or if possible Stam. :)

FDB would be free. I think it'd be great for him and for Ajax if he were to return. I think it would be a nice tribute to his old club as he didn't necessarily leave under the best of terms last. Let's be realistic here. He could probably easily go to the EPL for some small to medium sized club and make a lot more than he could by returning to Ajax. What's more, I don't think he's lost that much of his game that he couldn't contribute. Replace Chivu, of course not. Help out the club, sure he can.

As for Stefanovic, i'll take Fanatic's word on him. As for Stam, highly unlikely bordering on near impossible.

[BLAUGRANA]

I have to say that the latest on Chivu is believable and makes sense. However, there is still time for him to go to a different club than Real. I sure hope he does as I HATE Real Madrid.

[BLAUGRANA]

Ajax are impressed with Ponce. Leo Beenhakker said, "We're pleased with what we've seen so far and will be looking at the possibilities open to us. For the time being he will not be returning but perhaps he could pay us another visit at the end of the season".

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
I have to say that the latest on Chivu is believable and makes sense. However, there is still time for him to go to a different club than Real. I sure hope he does as I HATE Real Madrid.

According to what I heard, Chivu has a limited transfer fee in his contract of 20 million euros. :(
So Barca know what they have to do. He really seems a player who likes to join Real though, i`m not happy either with that, would have prefered Barca. But Chivu is the one who has to play there ofcourse. hope he will malke it next year. koemnan said he still had some doubts if Chivu was ready, if one could know, it could be Koeman. Still I see for Barca a growing possibility that Koeman and VDv will go together to Barca. If they pay up ofcourse.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


FDB would be free. I think it'd be great for him and for Ajax if he were to return. I think it would be a nice tribute to his old club as he didn't necessarily leave under the best of terms last. Let's be realistic here. He could probably easily go to the EPL for some small to medium sized club and make a lot more than he could by returning to Ajax. What's more, I don't think he's lost that much of his game that he couldn't contribute. Replace Chivu, of course not. Help out the club, sure he can.


Would be great for Barca too, or not? :D
Well he is cheap and an Ajax lergend but I gave my view on this earlier. If he is good enough for Barca, her must also be good enough for us.


As for Stam, highly unlikely bordering on near impossible.

You think he will stay at Lazio or do you think he would join another team. (EPL or PSV?)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic



You think he will stay at Lazio or do you think he would join another team. (EPL or PSV?) [/B]

I don't know exactly. I think he'll either stay in Italy (not necessarily with Lazio, but he could stay there) or go to the EPL. PSV later in his career perhaps. I'd take him at Ajax though.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


I don't know exactly. I think he'll either stay in Italy (not necessarily with Lazio, but he could stay there) or go to the EPL. PSV later in his career perhaps. I'd take him at Ajax though.

well lazio is doing great currently, but if he doesn1t get paid he might leave, we have to make sure we make a bid. what can we loose? I know he has history with PSV, we must make it worth for him to choose us. pay him more salary. :)

if he does leave Lazio, I see him go to the EPL or Spain. I don`t think he already wants to take the big step back to the Dutch league.

[JD]

On Eurogoals tonight they said there was official confirmation from Ajax that they are letting Chivu leave. Apparently Real are the favourites to buy him (if they buy him before Feb I won't get to see him play live against Arsenal, a disapointment lessened by the fact I think it considerably increases our chance of beating Ajax)
Real obviously can't play him in the CL - he will be cup tied, so maybe they will wait till the summer I don't know - they probably need him for La Liga

Stefanovic had a few dodgy moments for Vitesse against Liverpool last week but Owen kept on missing - do you really think he has what it takes to replace Chivu?

[hallee]

Yes....It is the price ajax has to pay for the succes they have in the CL.

It will be very difficult to hold players like van der vaart, Chivu, trabelsi...BUT if chivu leaves...we probably get Frank de boer back to amsterdam...he is free after this season.

Mt predictions are that Chivu will leave after this season and van der vaart after the next season :'(

[soccer fanatic]

I have already mentioned this in the transfer thread, but it was going to happen anyway, now we know. We don`t have too hold our breaths for another summer. As far as I know Chivu has a limited transfer fee of 20 million.

FDB will probably be his succeeder, but I would be happier with Stefanovic. He would be expensive though.

JD, I do think he is the best man to replace Chivu. Chgivu is incredible to replace and even though Stefanovic is a different defender he would do great. He played good against Liverpool but was in defence surrounded by lesser gods, not refering to a good playing Zeman and reasonable Frankel. His normal partner is Knol in central defense. He had to help the rest out too.

[BLAUGRANA]

Van Halst has been told he's surplus to requirements at the club. He's 33 and some of the younger players like De Jong will be given their chances. Van Halst has been very sporting about the whole thing and says he's happy to stay and sit on the bench or in the stands.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Van Halst has been told he's surplus to requirements at the club. He's 33 and some of the younger players like De Jong will be given their chances. Van Halst has been very sporting about the whole thing and says he's happy to stay and sit on the bench or in the stands.

He is probably aware of the height of his salary. :)

Seriously though, Ajax treated him like crap under Co Adriaanse, he behaved well and like a pro, so I think he more than deserves it.

Did you mean he is allowed to go to a different club?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic




Did you mean he is allowed to go to a different club?

I think.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


I think.

I can imagine that, Pasanen was also allowed to move, but after the Roma match there is a chance Ajax changed their minds.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic


I can imagine that, Pasanen was also allowed to move, but after the Roma match there is a chance Ajax changed their minds.

Probably. I'd keep him myself.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Probably. I'd keep him myself.

Me too, not only because of the Roma match, he never really convinced me enough to be a first team regular, but he did show he had a lot of potential, enough to become a good first team player.

His matches against Roma and Willem II (with Ajax 2) were both excellent, so he did improved his chances I think. There is a chance he falls victim to Ajax attemps to crimp in their team, we have way to many players under contract. I still think Pasanen will be offered a new deal.

BTW the player who scored for Ajax 2, normally played for the Ajax saturday amateurs, got offered a contract. Not for first team ofcourse, but to get in the 2nd team and a chgance for him to play himself in the 1st team.

He was very happy ofcourse with the offer, miracles do happen.
I`m checking the mail box every hour since then. :D

[soccer fanatic]

Fatih Sonkaya is rumoured to be a targeted signing from both Ajax and Galatasaray, the player with a Dutch and Turkish passport is currently playing for Roda JC. His asking price is around 3 million euros.

David Mendes da Silva is joining Ajax on loan. Ajax had an option for a possible transfer of him, he can play in central defence.
This makes a possible transfer of Sonkaya perhaps more difficult.
He played until now for Sparta.

I`m happy with Mendes da Silva and am surprised with the link towards Sonkaya. then again, he is having a fabulous season.

[Robledo]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
David Mendes da Silva is joining Ajax on loan. Ajax had an option for a possible transfer of him, he can play in central defence.


How good is this David Mendes Da Silva? (sounds Portuguese). He was supposed to join my team Newcastle at the beginning of the season, but it didn't happen. Is he the 'next Rijkarrd'?!

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=124323&Title=Former+Toon+target+agrees+Ajax+move

BTW Soccer Fanatic, congrats on 1000 posts !:D :thumbsup:

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Robledo




BTW Soccer Fanatic, congrats on 1000 posts !:D :thumbsup:

Congrats mate! :thumbsup: You've been great!

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by Robledo


How good is this David Mendes Da Silva? (sounds Portuguese). He was supposed to join my team Newcastle at the beginning of the season, but it didn't happen. Is he the 'next Rijkarrd'?!

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=124323&Title=Former+Toon+target+agrees+Ajax+move


Hard too say, he is a very promising player, he plays for the Dutch (!) national youth team but has been stuck in developing, because his team Sparta got in a very difficult position. (They still are) He still has great qualities and is expected too become a star, but it will depend on if he can adapt too the level of Ajax.

Boukhari had no problems with it (Also came from Sparta), so I think he will do great.
I know Newcastle was interested, not without reason, but I think they made the right decision by not signing him, he has too learn more before he can go too the EPL or any other major league, he needs more time. He is only 20 years old. :)


BTW Soccer Fanatic, congrats on 1000 posts !:D :thumbsup: [/B]

Thank you, both you and Azulgrana. :)

[lili]

Congratulations. Legends are really born every day!:) :D :D ;) :angel: