Juventus Prostitution Scandal

[Azerkid]

Check this out, its was written on Onefootball.com






Juventus quartet named in prostitution scandal



Thursday 4th July 2002

Juventus stars Paolo Montero, Mark Iuliano, Igor Tudor and Athirson have been implicated in the Turin prostitution racket smashed by police at the weekend.

"We became well known in football circles," said Loredana Berno, who ran the brothel with four accomplices and is engaged to Uruguayan defender Montero.

She also named Alessio Scarchilli and Simone Vergassola of Torino and Andrea Magallanes of Venezia as clients of Viva Lain, which masqueraded as a beauty centre.

"We flew girls as far afield as Naples," added Berno to Italian weekly magazine Panorama.

Two former players were also allegedly among Viva Lain's customers: defender Roberto Cravero, who played for Torino and Lazio, and midfielder Massimo Mauro, once of Juventus.

Mauro was also president of Genoa between 1998 and 1999 and a member of the Italian parliament until 2001, representing the Social Democrats.

Earlier, an unnamed Torino star admitted his involvement in the scandal. "It's true, I paid £500 to have sex with a girl," said the first-team regular.

The player was first implicated when one of the centre's 'masseuses', known only as Emanuela P, complained to police on April 10 that she had not been paid by him.

"I didn't go to Viva Lain," the Torino star went on. "I met Emanuela through a friend."

That friend is 31-year-old Berno, who was arrested at the weekend. She has already told the public prosecutor that the Torino player asked for introductions to other girls.

Berno also claims she arranged orgies at the homes of a number of footballers in northern Italy. "Some players paid with hashish or cocaine," she added.

[BLAUGRANA]

HAHAHAHA!!! Who are the dirty scumbags now!!! Need to pay for it huh. LMAO!!!

[Severus]

hardy har har oh you find that funny do you thug. well, what i found hilarious was ronaldo crying like a baby at the stadio olimpico with snot pouring out of his nose begging for tissues. THAT is funny.

[BLAUGRANA]

Cmon Viva. I'm just taking the piss. Lighten up! :D You know if it were Inter players you'd be posting like a madman on that board.

I'm not a big Ronaldo fan. If he goes to Real, I hope he breaks both his legs.

[Azerkid]

Hahahaha :D

[doz]

So that's what Athirson was doing all season then..........

[Azerkid]

He was saving his best for the bed ;) :D

[BLAUGRANA]

Where he probably still couldnt' get the job done.

[Looney]

Have they found evidence linking Viva to the racket as the principal prostitute yet? I heard rumours that he was Inzaghi's favourite, they'd have threesomes with Cassano. :D Of course just rumours but there's no smoke without fire! :D:D

[BLAUGRANA]

OUCH! LOL!!! :D Someone's not going to be happy.

[alex_10]

hehe
champions everywere,GOOD!!!
forza JUVENTUS!!!
CAMPIONE D`ITALIA!(someone dissapointed?)

[Looney]

Originally posted by azulgrana
OUCH! LOL!!! :D Someone's not going to be happy.

Yeah Totti! Gay orgy and he wasn't invited to host?

[Skualo]

HAHAHAHAHA!! campioni d italia but cant get a woman by theyre own...HAHAHAHAA...look at my avatar..well thats possibly the face bobos puts when he found out this...:D..and now look at my signature..well thats possibly what Ronaldo is going to do with the sex machine montero ( :silly: ) next season...aka leaving him in redicoluos :D

[BLAUGRANA]

Montero: "Hey Edgar, you coming tonight? We're gonna have some damn fine hoes!"

Davids: "Nah, I gotta smack my b**** up."

Montero: "You sure? We're gonna have some steroids and Nandrolone cocktails."

Davids: "I'll try and swing by later."

[Skualo]

surely davidz is very similar to the prodigy singer you know smack my bich up :D....that group is good :thumbsup:

[Looney]

I get this feeling that Sev's David's b!tch.....

[Azerkid]

I refuse to believe De boer, Stam, and Davids took the drugs, they were setup by the Portugeese and Irish :D

[alex_10]

hehe
what about passport of recoba?u say davids and drogs,but some inter players have another problems.at last now they get that they r in wrong club,hehe,curst of italia,to sign 100 stars and no result there. so EVIL MOUTH can talk everything,dirthy job,but the fact is: campione d`italia 2001/2002 is JUVENTUS!!!if truth hurt someone,dont be,there is another season,and another,and another................hehecome and get US!
FORZA JUVENTUS!!!

[Azerkid]

Recoba was setup by Azulgrana ;)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Azerkid37
Recoba was setup by Azulgrana ;)

He's so stupid, I don't need to set him up.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by azulgrana


He's so stupid, I don't need to set him up.

Hehe :D

[Looney]

azulgrana doesn't have the mental capacity to pull something like that off, I reckon it was doz, hence further evidence that it's an Irish conspiracy!

[doz]

Originally posted by Looney
azulgrana doesn't have the mental capacity to pull something like that off, I reckon it was doz, hence further evidence that it's an Irish conspiracy!

I certainly have the mental capacity to do it as Looney so kindly mentioned but sadly it's not true!:(

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Looney
azulgrana doesn't have the mental capacity to pull something like that off, I reckon it was doz, hence further evidence that it's an Irish conspiracy!

was he behind the Davids thing too? and Roy Keane?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Looney
azulgrana doesn't have the mental capacity to pull something like that off, I reckon it was doz, hence further evidence that it's an Irish conspiracy!

With an IQ of 47, you should watch your posts. You're probably so desperate Looney that you cancelled your trip to the San Siro to see Milan and have now decided to go to Turin to check out Juve and see if you can't splash some cash on some ladies of the evening.

The Scene: Looney is surrounded by reporters in his AC/DC t-shirt (his fav band BTW).

Reporter: "Mr. Looney, what do you have to say about the allegations against you concerning the Juventus scandal concerning hookers."

Looney: "HUH HUH, AHUH HUH HUH. You said hookers! HUH HUH, HUH HUH HUH HUH, MAHUH HUH HUH!"

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Azerkid37


was he behind the Davids thing too? and Roy Keane?

I offered my services to Roy, but he declined. He said that he felt me kicking Mick McCarthy's sorry @$$ all over Ireland wasn't necessary.

I think it's Severus who was behind this whole scandal. He's not been on this board since it hit the headlines.

[BLAUGRANA]

Davids: "Sup Looney?"
Looney: "Nah much bro. You know me, big pimpin'"
Davids: "Awww yeahh"
Looney: "You know there's one thing about Italy. They got some damn fine hoes!"

Davids: "They've got better drugs than Holland too!"

[Looney]

Azulgrana better that than like you who has to give blowjobs to LVG so he returns to Barcelona!

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Looney
Azulgrana better that than like you who has to give blowjobs to LVG so he returns to Barcelona!

You've got it all wrong. It was he who wanted to give them to me to take over for Rivaldo. I told him I wasn't that way and that while your football skills are seriously lacking, he should give you a ring cause bj's from dudes are your thing.

[Looney]

Well how would you know unless you've done me too..... oh let's not go there!

[Severus]

that's fine and dandy looney but atleast i am not gattuso's biatch. he told me you taste like rotten fish. ever heard of ivory or doz's favourite irish spring ?

and zul, don't think i forgot about you either. you and patty kluivert. how does his c0ck feel up your keester when he's raping you like he does to every other woman he meets ? well he certainly doesn't look like the aggressive type because he plays like a pansy, but did you actually feel anything ? since one can stick their leg up you ......

[BLAUGRANA]

Kluivert was innocent of those charges, unlike Mr. Davids.

I think Sev is pissed with us Looney. Why can't he understand we're just not interested. I wondered if he's propositioned dozzer yet?

[Looney]

Sev probably privately offered doz a princely sum of 100 turkish lira for a hand job and doz laughed at him and referred him to Delvecchio, now Sev's taking it out on us!

[doz]

No comments.:D

[Severus]

look, i'm not interested in you 2 dirty whores with frenia's that a macktruck can squeeze through. i've already given it to the filth of the US and australia because of major dryspells anyway. maybe another time ....

catcha later ya 2 cougars ;)

[Looney]

at least we're getting some, you got rejected by doz! :D

[doz]

Shows that Nerazzuri really are clever people!:D

[Severus]

yeah when you're in your deep sleep dreamin' up a storm.

[Looney]

no doz it shows Nerazzurri Scum are dumb..... Sev's the best you can do and you rejected him! Now you're stuck with Chowmein!

[Severus]

or mus :eek:

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Severus
or mus :eek:

You're the one courting mus! :eek:

[doz]

Would the moderator here kindly close this thread? Or is he even active anymore?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by doz
Would the moderator here kindly close this thread? Or is he even active anymore?

He's not active in the least. That's why I think a certain someone should be mod in his place.

[FANTA]

i think he is on holidays.

[doz]

I would say FANTA is right about PFC being on holidays, you don't become the top poster on this site, moderate 4 boards and then just disappear into thin air.

[BLAUGRANA]

Good thing this thread was started, or this board would be a ghosttown!

[Looney]

Yes I agree, once there is mention of mus and chowmein in the same thread it should be closed.....

[Severus]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


He's not active in the least. That's why I think a certain someone should be mod in his place.

who mmmmmmeeeeeeeee ???

no i couldn't :rolleyes:

oh and btw dozzer, i am the top dog here. and don't you forget it.

[Looney]

Sev he means Italianboy..... :D

[Severus]

oh him the half romanista half juventino. he should denounce his bianconeri colours as far as i'm concerned.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Looney
Sev he means Italianboy..... :D

I meant Elcino.

[Looney]

Yeah elcino should mod this place with the help of mus!

[doz]

We could get Athirson to moderate it.He doesn't seem to be playing very much sadly.:(

[Looney]

Maybe Ronaldo and Vieri should mod this place, they won't have much to do when they're injured again......

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Looney
Maybe Ronaldo and Vieri should mod this place, they won't have much to do when they're injured again......

If Ronaldo's injured again, I say Inter have him deal some janitorial duties around the San Siro. I'm tired of his injuries. Maybe Shevchenko might have some kidnapping job for Ronaldo to do. :eek:

[Looney]

Now that's below the belt, kidnapping.......

[Severus]

good point looney. we can have them join the axis andthen turn our attention to picking on ronaldo instead of it always being azul as the whipping boy. change 'er up a little you know ;)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Severus
good point looney. we can have them join the axis andthen turn our attention to picking on ronaldo instead of it always being azul as the whipping boy. change 'er up a little you know ;)

You can go to the Inter board right now and shut the idiots up who are slaggin Vieri and sucking Ronaldo's ****.

If i'm your whipping boy, you might want to work on your posts. They're pretty weak. In fact, it feels like i'm being whipped by a piece of yarn.

Speaking of whips, do your Juve pals Montero and Co prefer that their whores use whips?

[Severus]

weak because i play down to the level of my competition. i am of italian origin, that's a given. you however are a whipping boy firstly because you're an interista ---that goes without say--- secondly because you seem to have a new team every month to support ---what's the count at now 66 ?--- and lastly because despite the large number of clubs you support, all of them are simply flat out losers.

then there are the sightings of you being raped by "patty" kluivert recently in some forest in milwaukee. the paparazzi was all over that so don't try to deny it either. we gots da photos.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Severus
weak because i play down to the level of my competition. i am of italian origin, that's a given. you however are a whipping boy firstly because you're an interista ---that goes without say--- secondly because you seem to have a new team every month to support ---what's the count at now 66 ?--- and lastly because despite the large number of clubs you support, all of them are simply flat out losers.

then there are the sightings of you being raped by "patty" kluivert recently in some forest in milwaukee. the paparazzi was all over that so don't try to deny it either. we gots da photos.

You dirty maneater, you wish that happened so you could try and get some photos for yourself.

Nice try with the clubs arguement too. I can think of the same 3 that i've been supporting since day one, but no one else. Of course I'm sure your infinite wisdom will enlighten us all yet again. At least the clubs I support don't dope there players with illegal steroids, much less hook them up with brothels.

LOL. :D Too bad we can't all go back in time to the day you decided to support Juve. Severus: "Hmm. Since i'm part Italian, I guess I should support an Italian club. But which one? Lazio have pretty blue uniforms, but then they're fans would kick my sorry little ass if I ever went to one of their games. I like cheese a lot, so maybe Parma. Roma are kinda cool, but then they haven't won enough titles. I guess i'll support Juventus. They've won so many titles, they're bound to win some more. Who cares if I don't really like the team or know any of the players. I can learn. That Old Lady reference is kinda embarassing though. I hope no one notices that they the refs always favor them, or else i'll have a hard time defending them."
;)

BTW, what's the deal Viva? You're always hiding while you post. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

[Severus]

in my parents part of italy, there is no decision to make. you're either juventino or a disgrace to piemonte. i virtually had no choice just as i didn't when choosing my favourite hockey team. what can i say my father's very oppressive. atleast in the end its only 1 team. not half a dozen.

furthermore, my CLUB atleast doesn't try to smuggle in refugees from uruguay whereas the doping issue is as ambiguous as the brain that occupies your head. if you knew anything about it you wouldn't go pointing fingers at "dopers" because nobody has any concrete answers to all the questions that surround nandrolone and how much the body naturally produces of it. go find the answer then point your finger meathead. but then again asking a yank to enlighten himself is as useless as asking mus to admit he's wrong. it just ain't happenin'.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Severus
in my parents part of italy, there is no decision to make. you're either juventino or a disgrace to piemonte. i virtually had no choice just as i didn't when choosing my favourite hockey team. what can i say my father's very oppressive. atleast in the end its only 1 team. not half a dozen.

furthermore, my CLUB atleast doesn't try to smuggle in refugees from uruguay whereas the doping issue is as ambiguous as the brain that occupies your head. if you knew anything about it you wouldn't go pointing fingers at "dopers" because nobody has any concrete answers to all the questions that surround nandrolone and how much the body naturally produces of it. go find the answer then point your finger meathead. but then again asking a yank to enlighten himself is as useless as asking mus to admit he's wrong. it just ain't happenin'.

Oh, so your father made you support Juve. Good to see you can think for yourself. I too had no decision to make, especially being american with no direct (meaning within a generation or two) ties to Europe or anywhere else. Also, living in the States I didn't have much coverage of football when I first started following it. It was the Eredivisie only and so I quickly became an Ajax fan because they were far more exciting than the rest of the teams and I really liked the club structure and youth policy. As I got to see more football as tv coverage in this country improved, I was exposed to more leagues and consequently more clubs. I became a Barca fan as I loved their attractive style of play and their Dutch connection. I've stated all this before, so i'm done. I probably have a team in every league that I support more than the others, but for me it's first and foremost Barca and that's no secret and hasn't been since the unfortunate day I came across you.

I of course was kidding about the whole nandrolone thing as I can't attack Juve by saying they haven't won anything when the Old Bitch has won some much damn silverware... Speaking of enlightening one's self, you should talk. I've had to enlighten you with stats on many occasions. In fact, I think it's how we become pals. No you tart, not the windy walks type pals you and mus are!

[Severus]

i just support teams i am connected to. like juventus the hometown team of my folks and my early childhood, the leafs, raps, jays because of the T dot, team canada, the azzurri .... i'm just a patriotic type of guy. you however choose your team of the day based on which way the wind is blowing ;)

and you have never enlightened me on anything including stats. just because you know exact numbers whereas i generally know what range of numbers a particular stat falls in doesn't mean you're enlightening me. you're just knit-picking.

severus: kluivert misses 9/10 times
freeze: NO HE DOESN'T ITS 8 !!! you don't know anything !!!!!!!!!!
severus: gees who p|ssed on this bloaks corn flakes this morning ?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Severus
i just support teams i am connected to. like juventus the hometown team of my folks and my early childhood, the leafs, raps, jays because of the T dot, team canada, the azzurri .... i'm just a patriotic type of guy. you however choose your team of the day based on which way the wind is blowing ;)

and you have never enlightened me on anything including stats. just because you know exact numbers whereas i generally know what range of numbers a particular stat falls in doesn't mean you're enlightening me. you're just knit-picking.

severus: kluivert misses 9/10 times
freeze: NO HE DOESN'T ITS 8 !!! you don't know anything !!!!!!!!!!
severus: gees who p|ssed on this bloaks corn flakes this morning ?

I'm a Green Bay Packers fan. Best american football team of all time, not to mention as a franchise as a whole. The Bucks don't interest me as I hate basketball (actually, my fav basketball team is Barcelona too) and the Brewers are alright. I'm not as big a baseball fan as I used to be. Milwaukee Rampage, I guess. I'd rather follow European football.

In terms of enlightening, it's more like this:

Severus: Kluivert f*ing sucks. He can't score for sh*t and since he couldn't do the business for Milan, anything he does anywhere else doesn't matter as Milan was in the Serie A and that's the best league cause i'm a Juve fan.

Azulgrana: Actually, Kluivert was the second leading scorer in La Liga last season, and that's not to mention how he sets up his teammates. And if playing badly at Milan makes a player suck, then what do you have to say for smack my bitch up Davids?

Severus: Ummm, well Barca just sucks so why don't you go and break someone's knee caps you filthy, dirty, scummy Interista thug!

Everyone on the boards: What's up with this Severus dude? Hasn't he heard of anger management?

[doz]

Man this argument is heating up.Keep it up guys.:evil:

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by doz
Man this argument is heating up.Keep it up guys.:evil:

Someone's got to keep this board going. I thought someone else would be more interested, but it seems like that's not the case! ;)
This could be my last day on for a while too! :eek:

[Looney]

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[Skualo]

Originally posted by Looney
Live only on LooneySports

you mean looney toons lol:D

[Severus]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


I'm a Green Bay Packers fan. Best american football team of all time, not to mention as a franchise as a whole. The Bucks don't interest me as I hate basketball (actually, my fav basketball team is Barcelona too) and the Brewers are alright. I'm not as big a baseball fan as I used to be. Milwaukee Rampage, I guess. I'd rather follow European football.

In terms of enlightening, it's more like this:

Severus: Kluivert f*ing sucks. He can't score for sh*t and since he couldn't do the business for Milan, anything he does anywhere else doesn't matter as Milan was in the Serie A and that's the best league cause i'm a Juve fan.

Azulgrana: Actually, Kluivert was the second leading scorer in La Liga last season, and that's not to mention how he sets up his teammates. And if playing badly at Milan makes a player suck, then what do you have to say for smack my bitch up Davids?

Severus: Ummm, well Barca just sucks so why don't you go and break someone's knee caps you filthy, dirty, scummy Interista thug!

Everyone on the boards: What's up with this Severus dude? Hasn't he heard of anger management?

kluivert just stinks bottom line. he was pathetic at milan. horrible vs any competition where the marking is generally tight (i guess that's why he flourished in spain because there they give you acres of space to play in) and was a comedy stint when he was missing penalty shots after golden opportunities vs italy at the euros. lemme guess he was just warming up ?????

as for davids, he never stunk it up with milan. that's why nobody could understand why they sent him to juventus in the first place. just as why the inzaghi for zenoni + $23 million deal is still puzzling to this day. i guess they're just great judges of talent there at milanello.

which would explain why they'd be stupid enough to sign seedorf too. they're just retards over there.

[Azerkid]

He wasnt good at Milan maybe because he was only 19 when he moved, that was his first foreign club, eventhou he did have a crap season he still banged 6 goals in 18 games, thats not bad for a teen whose had off the field problems. When he came to Barca all it took was one season to adapt to the game and after the started scoring regularly.

BTW, Just because he missed a PK (hit the bar) doesnt make him a crap player, if it does then Italy would be a crap team for losing in PKs 98 and losing to Korea in Golden Goal, or even Baggio be a crap player for missing a PK in 94.

[Azerkid]

As for Davids you cant really compare him to Kluivert because they have different jobs and positions on the field becasue David just has to control the mid and win balls so thats why didnt have a hard time as Kluivert who was expected to be a leading scorer in the league.

[Severus]

i know, how hard is it controlling the mid. its easy. its only everything that runs through it ..... its not the most important position on the field, i mean without them greedy midfielders strikers would 50 goals a season :rolleyes:

as for kluivert, firstly, if you've ever watched him against italian competition HE STINKS. he stunk in italy when he was playing for a solid team (that's why he netted 6 goals), he stunk at the euros, and he's even worst when he's facing italian competition in europe. don't be blinded by what he does against teams that throw a caution to the wind mentality concerning defending. because when you do that you'll make ignorant assessments and overrate his abilities like you've just done right now.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Severus
i know, how hard is it controlling the mid. its easy. its only everything that runs through it ..... its not the most important position on the field, i mean without them greedy midfielders strikers would 50 goals a season :rolleyes:

as for kluivert, firstly, if you've ever watched him against italian competition HE STINKS. he stunk in italy when he was playing for a solid team (that's why he netted 6 goals), he stunk at the euros, and he's even worst when he's facing italian competition in europe. don't be blinded by what he does against teams that throw a caution to the wind mentality concerning defending. because when you do that you'll make ignorant assessments and overrate his abilities like you've just done right now.

Sev, I seen plenty of Klu's games inorder to judge him.

Yes he did stink in Italy, but hows that suppose to make sucky?
If do have great marking, they obviously didnt show it in this WC.

How did he stink in Euros??? He finished joint top-scorer, and oh yeah!!! missed 1 PK so than he must really suck, but like every player converts all of thier penalties. He did make it up by scoring in the shoot-out.
In Euro 96 he was i beleive 18 but still scored 2 goals eventhough he was overshadowed by Bergkamp and De boers and Jordi Cryuff.

If you think that Spain has crap marking then why did Real win the CL or Barca go to the Semis? I'am pretty sure i didnt see any Italians clubs last and this year in the Semis, but i did see Valencia there........ I guess open defence must have an answer to its succes.


As for the midfield, you have 3-4 (depending on formation) guys supporting Davids, but when youre a striker you only have 1 partner and 80% of scoring depends on you.

[Severus]

B]Yes he did stink in Italy, but hows that suppose to make sucky?If do have great marking, they obviously didnt show it in this WC[/B]

why are you bringing up WC 2002 when we were just speaking about holland-italia EURO2000 ??? i said, against italian competition or just tighter marking teams in general, he is ineffective. are you going to tell me now italy aren't renowned for their defending ?????? gear down a little, you're all over the place here.

How did he stink in Euros??? He finished joint top-scorer, and oh yeah!!! missed 1 PK so than he must really suck, but like every player converts all of thier penalties. He did make it up by scoring in the shoot-out

sorry, i forgot to add that he stunk up the joint against italia at the euros, practically non-existant except for when he was missing his penalty and diving like a cheat to get it may i add ! however, where were all those goals he scored prior when italy held them to a 0-0 draw with 10 men ? so what if he scored in the shootout, if he buried the few good chances he had it would've been over in 90 minutes and there would've been no need for the shootouts. but yet you don't realize this. look i think he's an overrated player but it doesn't mean i don't think he has talent. he does. i just think he's non-existant when he plays against tightly marking teams. and for that he's garbage i reckon. you mentioned italia and he's done nothing. not in europe, not in italia, not with holland. you try to wheel your way around it but the fact remains he does fukk all against italian competition. then you brought up real madrid but you forgot to mention they shut him out too (a team not even noted for their defending) and depor and valencia seem to have their way with him as well. just concede he sucks against good defending teams and this will be concluded because you obviously have no argument in this regard.

If you think that Spain has crap marking then why did Real win the CL or Barca go to the Semis? I'am pretty sure i didnt see any Italians clubs last and this year in the Semis, but i did see Valencia there........ I guess open defence must have an answer to its succes

yes and that's why kluivert did nothing against real madrid in the champions and why teams like depor and valencia shut him down too. thanks for proving my point. nonetheless, don't go telling me real madrid has a sound defence because those aging centrebacks are not getting any younger and quicker. nor is real madrid known for their tight marking. its more their flair and spectacular brand of futbol which has brought them all this success. la coruna and valencia just simply don't belong in la liga. they should be playing in serie A.

As for the midfield, you have 3-4 (depending on formation) guys supporting Davids, but when youre a striker you only have 1 partner and 80% of scoring depends on you

listen, i don't know what type of futbol you've been playing, but the one i play is more a team concept where everyone supports everyone and nobody is isolated because of their position. and the mids are the ones who link up the help for everyone. therefore, the strikers are only isolated with no support from the rest of the team when the midfielders are hurting and nobody is permitted to venture forward: wingers/wingbacks, attacking mids etc. in case you have not yet realized this about futbol, if you're midfield fa schifo, those glamourous strikers will get no quality chances to score those pretty little goals they score. andthen what ? and don't tell me kluivert has no support when he played with rivaldo, saviola and xav because that would be utter lunacy. and he still did nothing when it mattered neither in spain or in europe. i rest my case.

[doz]

Just to touch on the Kluivert issue regarding his performances V Serie A clubs i recall this comment from Galliani back in 2000 when Milan played(and beat if memory serves) Barca in the CL, "Kluivert did nothing for us, he did nothing here tonight and we were glad to be rid of him."

Personally i agree with Severus.When Kluivert gets an open defence he's a real handful and a top striker.When he's tightly marked he throws a tantrum and disappears from the match.He gives up.He's always relying on other players to make things happen in a tight game as he never seems to do anything himself.That's not the kind of striker you want in a big match.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Severus
B]Yes he did stink in Italy, but hows that suppose to make sucky?If do have great marking, they obviously didnt show it in this WC

why are you bringing up WC 2002 when we were just speaking about holland-italia EURO2000 ??? i said, against italian competition or just tighter marking teams in general, he is ineffective. are you going to tell me now italy aren't renowned for their defending ?????? gear down a little, you're all over the place here.

How did he stink in Euros??? He finished joint top-scorer, and oh yeah!!! missed 1 PK so than he must really suck, but like every player converts all of thier penalties. He did make it up by scoring in the shoot-out

sorry, i forgot to add that he stunk up the joint against italia at the euros, practically non-existant except for when he was missing his penalty and diving like a cheat to get it may i add ! however, where were all those goals he scored prior when italy held them to a 0-0 draw with 10 men ? so what if he scored in the shootout, if he buried the few good chances he had it would've been over in 90 minutes and there would've been no need for the shootouts. but yet you don't realize this. look i think he's an overrated player but it doesn't mean i don't think he has talent. he does. i just think he's non-existant when he plays against tightly marking teams. and for that he's garbage i reckon. you mentioned italia and he's done nothing. not in europe, not in italia, not with holland. you try to wheel your way around it but the fact remains he does fukk all against italian competition. then you brought up real madrid but you forgot to mention they shut him out too (a team not even noted for their defending) and depor and valencia seem to have their way with him as well. just concede he sucks against good defending teams and this will be concluded because you obviously have no argument in this regard.

If you think that Spain has crap marking then why did Real win the CL or Barca go to the Semis? I'am pretty sure i didnt see any Italians clubs last and this year in the Semis, but i did see Valencia there........ I guess open defence must have an answer to its succes

yes and that's why kluivert did nothing against real madrid in the champions and why teams like depor and valencia shut him down too. thanks for proving my point. nonetheless, don't go telling me real madrid has a sound defence because those aging centrebacks are not getting any younger and quicker. nor is real madrid known for their tight marking. its more their flair and spectacular brand of futbol which has brought them all this success. la coruna and valencia just simply don't belong in la liga. they should be playing in serie A.

As for the midfield, you have 3-4 (depending on formation) guys supporting Davids, but when youre a striker you only have 1 partner and 80% of scoring depends on you

listen, i don't know what type of futbol you've been playing, but the one i play is more a team concept where everyone supports everyone and nobody is isolated because of their position. and the mids are the ones who link up the help for everyone. therefore, the strikers are only isolated with no support from the rest of the team when the midfielders are hurting and nobody is permitted to venture forward: wingers/wingbacks, attacking mids etc. in case you have not yet realized this about futbol, if you're midfield fa schifo, those glamourous strikers will get no quality chances to score those pretty little goals they score. andthen what ? and don't tell me kluivert has no support when he played with rivaldo, saviola and xav because that would be utter lunacy. and he still did nothing when it mattered neither in spain or in europe. i rest my case. [/B]

To comment on the his performance aginst Depo, and Valencia he did score aginst Depo (2-1) but during the season didnt beat Depo or Vallencia they shutdown the whole TEAM not just Klu but De boers, Riva, Xavi, and etc....

Also in Euro he didnt score against Italia, big deal :rolleyes: so what youre saying is that if you cant score against Italy youre crap, but then those 2 Koreans must be class players for score on your tight D.

Back to the midfield issue..... You think Kluivert gets set up by Riva (occasionaly) but obviously not by Saviola because he partners him up-front so and IMO he is a ball-hog, only guys that really set him up are Deboer, Luis E, and few others...... but thats not much support for him inorder to be a 2nd leading scorer in La Liga.
Yes the strikers do rely on the mids but there are more mids to cover for another if they stink during that game but when you take 1 out of 2 strikers out youre gonna complicate the other teams scoring chances.

BTW, why are you avoiding WC02 ???

He might stink aganst Italian competiton maybe because he only played 18 league games and Dutch NT barely ever face Italy.

Do you think players like Vieri (if he was for example Dutch or Spnish)if they played most of thier career in Spain and Holland would adapt to Serie A in over 18 games and halfm of those were being benched?

[Looney]

Did someone say midfield is easy? Have you played anytime in the last 20 years!?! midfield is the hardest position! Striker you strut up the line, kick the ball, then either rip off your shirt or hide under a rock. POSSIBLY you'll make a few runs or passes. Central Midfield has to dictate the match, make the passes, spot the wingers and strikers, break up the opposing midfield, go forward to support the offense, go backwards to support the defense, make lunch for the rest of the team and drive the U12s to the game. What it's just a coincidence that Figo, Zidane, Beckham and Rivaldo (sometimes) are all midfielders? Is it a coincidence that the phrases "midfield controls the game" and "the game is won in midfield" are said? And what you think it's easy being midfield? You have to cover the wrongdoings of your fellow midfielders and the stupid strikers upfront. The strikers lose the ball, midfield gets it. The wingers go AWOL, the midfield has to get them back into the game, the strikers aren't getting the ball, who has to the give them the ball? And the wingers, they run and dribble and cross and cut inside all day then track back to tackle then run forward then probably take the set pieces then do all the assists so the strikers can grab the headline goals, you think that's easy work? The only reward at being a winger is going out with the female linesmen after the game and only because you were running up their line all day. Geez.....

[Azerkid]

Have YOU ever played striker???? I played both positions and striker is harder, because they are the ones that make most of the goals, and yes midfields do setup strikers i never said its an easy thing to do, but when you screwup in the mid your parteners will cover, but if you do that while being a striker nobody cover you because youre striking partner is gonna worry about his goals youre all alone to stink up the place, for example during a game when a striker is off target or is having a bad you can see miles away and everybody criticizes them but in the the mid its not as huge deal like when Ronaldniho played like crap during the beginnig of WC but everybody still loved him, but imagine if Ronnie played like crap he been dumped under pressure. Bassicaly iif youre striker plays like trash then whose gonna score the goals???

Another reason its harder is the pressure because you miss a goal chance you start felling sh1tty and espcially when you do that more than once.

[Severus]

Originally posted by Azerkid


To comment on the his performance aginst Depo, and Valencia he did score aginst Depo (2-1) but during the season didnt beat Depo or Vallencia they shutdown the whole TEAM not just Klu but De boers, Riva, Xavi, and etc....

Also in Euro he didnt score against Italia, big deal :rolleyes: so what youre saying is that if you cant score against Italy youre crap, but then those 2 Koreans must be class players for score on your tight D.

Back to the midfield issue..... You think Kluivert gets set up by Riva (occasionaly) but obviously not by Saviola because he partners him up-front so and IMO he is a ball-hog, only guys that really set him up are Deboer, Luis E, and few others...... but thats not much support for him inorder to be a 2nd leading scorer in La Liga.
Yes the strikers do rely on the mids but there are more mids to cover for another if they stink during that game but when you take 1 out of 2 strikers out youre gonna complicate the other teams scoring chances.

BTW, why are you avoiding WC02 ???

He might stink aganst Italian competiton maybe because he only played 18 league games and Dutch NT barely ever face Italy.

Do you think players like Vieri (if he was for example Dutch or Spnish)if they played most of thier career in Spain and Holland would adapt to Serie A in over 18 games and halfm of those were being benched?

whatever. he wasn't a factor and that's my whole point which you have failed to comprehend, and here i'll bold it for you so you may atleast start to see a glimmer of light, AGAINST TIGHT MARKING TEAMS HE IS NO WHERE TO BE FOUND !!!!!!!!! italian teams are tight marking outfits in general, so are a couple of spanish teams which we touched up on earlier. i bet he would do nothing against liverpool and bayern munich because they mark well too and if kluivert doesn't have an acre of space to work with, he's virtually useless. COMPRENDE ????? fukk !!!

now as for your midfield theory, you obviously have never played competitive futbol before because you can't grasp the notion that if your midfield is firing on all clylinder even 1 striker will do. and that one striker will be far from isolated. teams live and die with their midfield because if you have that the finishing will come.

He might stink aganst Italian competiton maybe because he only played 18 league games and Dutch NT barely ever face Italy

haa, yeah right. there are players who quickly adapted to serie A. kluivert just isn't one of them because he can't penetrate through good defensive teams. however, nevermind the serie A for a moment. why hasn't he done anything against italian teams even in europe like in the champions league. i watched him against milan last season and i didn't even know he was on the field. and milan isn't exactly your prototypical italian team, well they weren't before ancelotti anyway.

BTW, why are you avoiding WC02 ???

i am avoiding WC02 because its absolutly irrelevant in this discussion primarily because kluivert was not there. nevertheless, if you wanna start bashing my azzurri go ahead because i wont be afraid to retaliate, especially on a american :D

[Looney]

Yeah striker has more pressure, but midfield still has the harder job. Strikers that don't work togather with the team, hell they don't get to play in Serie A and La Liga! And I dunno what team you play, but when I central midfield I get my fellow midfielder to help, I have to support the defense, wingers and strikers and get dumped on if I miss a tackle while the strikers get dumped on for not scoring but at least they can then blame the midfield for not giving good service!

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by doz
Just to touch on the Kluivert issue regarding his performances V Serie A clubs i recall this comment from Galliani back in 2000 when Milan played(and beat if memory serves) Barca in the CL, "Kluivert did nothing for us, he did nothing here tonight and we were glad to be rid of him."

Personally i agree with Severus.When Kluivert gets an open defence he's a real handful and a top striker.When he's tightly marked he throws a tantrum and disappears from the match.He gives up.He's always relying on other players to make things happen in a tight game as he never seems to do anything himself.That's not the kind of striker you want in a big match.

IMO, you're a bit right and a bit wrong. He is getting better about staying in matches and is becoming more of a team leader. I think he's matured more and is becoming a better team player as a result. Last season was a good example and he was productive too. No Rivaldo for much of the season and took on much of the goalscoring burden. Also, for me he was much more passionate and lively than some of his teammates in the CL semis versus Real Madrid.

Davids wasn't that great for Milan. I agree they never should have sold him. But he wasn't the player for them he has been for Juve or Holland and was at Ajax. I think that's why Milan let him go. Either way, you've got him now. Just so long as he doesn't smack around the hookers or any of the players' wives. That's assuming the players actually go out with their wives.

Funny how Paddy Kluivert is keeping this board going. You'd think he plays for Juve or something.

Oh yeah, IMO midfielder is a tougher position than striker. More work and more responsibility.

[Looney]

Again I point to the fact Milan might have had Davids, Vieira and Gattuso in the same midfield, more grunt than a pig farm and probably smellier too after all the blood spilt.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Looney
Again I point to the fact Milan might have had Davids, Vieira and Gattuso in the same midfield, more grunt than a pig farm and probably smellier too after all the blood spilt.

So what are trying to tell us? That Milan is run by the biggest bunch of tossers this side of Lazio? That's not news mate.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Severus


whatever. he wasn't a factor and that's my whole point which you have failed to comprehend, and here i'll bold it for you so you may atleast start to see a glimmer of light, AGAINST TIGHT MARKING TEAMS HE IS NO WHERE TO BE FOUND !!!!!!!!! italian teams are tight marking outfits in general, so are a couple of spanish teams which we touched up on earlier. i bet he would do nothing against liverpool and bayern munich because they mark well too and if kluivert doesn't have an acre of space to work with, he's virtually useless. COMPRENDE ????? fukk !!!

now as for your midfield theory, you obviously have never played competitive futbol before because you can't grasp the notion that if your midfield is firing on all clylinder even 1 striker will do. and that one striker will be far from isolated. teams live and die with their midfield because if you have that the finishing will come.

He might stink aganst Italian competiton maybe because he only played 18 league games and Dutch NT barely ever face Italy

haa, yeah right. there are players who quickly adapted to serie A. kluivert just isn't one of them because he can't penetrate through good defensive teams. however, nevermind the serie A for a moment. why hasn't he done anything against italian teams even in europe like in the champions league. i watched him against milan last season and i didn't even know he was on the field. and milan isn't exactly your prototypical italian team, well they weren't before ancelotti anyway.

BTW, why are you avoiding WC02 ???

i am avoiding WC02 because its absolutly irrelevant in this discussion primarily because kluivert was not there. nevertheless, if you wanna start bashing my azzurri go ahead because i wont be afraid to retaliate, especially on a american :D

About the midfield issue again...... Why did Mr. Vieri was the only player that kept Italy breathing and made Catennacio look a bit like football????? And what position does he play??? What position does that fruitcake Totti play???? And how did he help Italy???

You said that Paddy is useless when he has an acre of space to play in but earlier your excuse for his scoring rate in La Liga was becasue HE GETS ACRES OF SPACE TO PLAY IN I dont understand you!!!!

You must be in an akward situation now because the Yanks went much farther than youre Azzuri, eh??? And they didn't lose to the Koreans who were coached by a Dutch coach ;) !!!!

[Severus]

About the midfield issue again...... Why did Mr. Vieri was the only player that kept Italy breathing and made Catennacio look a bit like football????? And what position does he play??? What position does that fruitcake Totti play???? And how did he help Italy???

first of all, don't put me in a position where i'd have to back totti because that ain't happenin'. he's not a midfielder nor is he a forward/striker. he's garbage and serves no purpose on the field unless you're shooting a movie and you want totti to be your go-to actor. secondly, the thought of vieri making catenaccio resemble futbol even in the slightest is absurd because catenaccio teams usually get that first goal (vieri's goal/game) then shut down the motor after that and defend all game. i thought you'd atleast know that but its painfully obvious you don't. thirdly, vieri did keep italia breathing but that was mainly because we had no midfield whatsoever in fact, it was non-existant. vieri however is just a great centreforward that he can still overcome that and register his goal/game.

You said that Paddy is useless when he has an acre of space to play in but earlier your excuse for his scoring rate in La Liga was becasue HE GETS ACRES OF SPACE TO PLAY IN I dont understand you!!!!

minchia you really are stupid aren't you. you quoted me as saying this i bet he would do nothing against liverpool and bayern munich because they mark well too and if kluivert doesn't have an acre of space to work with, he's virtually useless. COMPRENDE ????? fukk !!! ???????????????????????? dude, lay off the crack for even a week. it'd do you wonders.

You must be in an akward situation now because the Yanks went much farther than youre Azzuri, eh??? And they didn't lose to the Koreans who were coached by a Dutch coach !!!!

much further ? weren't they eliminated the round after ??? anyway, yes it was a tough outfit that korean side was. a very cohesive 15 man unit including players, fans, the officiating team. very impressive for a team that wouldn't have even qualified for the world cup if they weren't hosting it.

[BLAUGRANA]

This thread is so popular, I think Omar is going to rename the Juventus Board and call it The Red Light District.

[Looney]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


So what are trying to tell us? That Milan is run by the biggest bunch of tossers this side of Lazio? That's not news mate.

That's nearly what I meant, I meant that Galliani is a fool... he sold two of the world's best midfielders...... I was mentioning how Davids never should've left same with Vieira.....

So what if Vieri kept Italy in the WC? Doesn't prove that striker's harder to play..... it just means that the Italian midfield couldn't cope with the rigours of the WC while Vieri did.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Looney


That's nearly what I meant, I meant that Galliani is a fool... he sold two of the world's best midfielders...... I was mentioning how Davids never should've left same with Vieira.....

So what if Vieri kept Italy in the WC? Doesn't prove that striker's harder to play..... it just means that the Italian midfield couldn't cope with the rigours of the WC while Vieri did.

I'am not trying to prove that mid is easy, its probably even harder than being a striker, but the mid is harder as a team unit becasue thats where everything is plyed and helps the defence or offense, but if youre a individual playing the mid where you have 3 other guys playing along side then it still be hard but not very becasue you know your mates got you covered but when youre a striker your only help is the the service from the mids but the hard thing is the pressure when you have to score, and dealing with missed opportunities, and also creating youre own goals, and assisting youre striking partner.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Severus
About the midfield issue again...... Why did Mr. Vieri was the only player that kept Italy breathing and made Catennacio look a bit like football????? And what position does he play??? What position does that fruitcake Totti play???? And how did he help Italy???

first of all, don't put me in a position where i'd have to back totti because that ain't happenin'. he's not a midfielder nor is he a forward/striker. he's garbage and serves no purpose on the field unless you're shooting a movie and you want totti to be your go-to actor. secondly, the thought of vieri making catenaccio resemble futbol even in the slightest is absurd because catenaccio teams usually get that first goal (vieri's goal/game) then shut down the motor after that and defend all game. i thought you'd atleast know that but its painfully obvious you don't. thirdly, vieri did keep italia breathing but that was mainly because we had no midfield whatsoever in fact, it was non-existant. vieri however is just a great centreforward that he can still overcome that and register his goal/game.

You said that Paddy is useless when he has an acre of space to play in but earlier your excuse for his scoring rate in La Liga was becasue HE GETS ACRES OF SPACE TO PLAY IN I dont understand you!!!!

minchia you really are stupid aren't you. you quoted me as saying this i bet he would do nothing against liverpool and bayern munich because they mark well too and if kluivert doesn't have an acre of space to work with, he's virtually useless. COMPRENDE ????? fukk !!! ???????????????????????? dude, lay off the crack for even a week. it'd do you wonders.

You must be in an akward situation now because the Yanks went much farther than youre Azzuri, eh??? And they didn't lose to the Koreans who were coached by a Dutch coach !!!!

much further ? weren't they eliminated the round after ??? anyway, yes it was a tough outfit that korean side was. a very cohesive 15 man unit including players, fans, the officiating team. very impressive for a team that wouldn't have even qualified for the world cup if they weren't hosting it.

Hehehe, you said said you dont have mids when you had almost the same players as in WC 02 and youre best players was supposedly Totti, and another factor was where was Montella??? What did Crap do to him????

For the catenaccio..... you might score the first goal and turn off the engine but when you let in the goal you never turn your engine back on ! Korea match would be a perfect example so would the Euro00 final.

[Severus]

Hehehe, you said said you dont have mids when you had almost the same players as in WC 02 and youre best players was supposedly Totti, and another factor was where was Montella??? What did Crap do to him????

exactly. ask trapattoni where montella was. not me. secondly, what are you talking about concerning italia's mid and how it was exactly the same as 2002 ??? do you mean euro2000 ??? because even then we had fiore and ambrosini 2 midfielders who were sorely missed in japan/korea for their creativity and sound overall game. 2 pretty crucial players wouldn't you say ? i'm beginning to think that not even yourself knows what you are mumbling about.

For the catenaccio..... you might score the first goal and turn off the engine but when you let in the goal you never turn your engine back on !

thanks. now did you just rephrase everything i just said to you or am i imagining it ?

Korea match would be a perfect example so would the Euro00 final

not really because the euro final was scoreless up until the 60th minute or so until we drew first blood but even for 90 minutes not including injury time we outplayed the world champs for the most part which is better than any team managed to do for almost 4 years. the koreans however was a different situation i thought because after vieri scored in the 20th minute we were practically impotent against these tadpoles who we made look like one of the elite when in reality, they are futbol weaklings. don't get me started on catenaccio because i'll go on for hours about it. just know that you don't have to endlessly remind me of how sh|t catenaccio is because i know first hand thank you very much. i was familiar with catenaccio before you even knew what a futbol looked like so spare me the needless words.

[Looney]

Originally posted by Azerkid


I'am not trying to prove that mid is easy, its probably even harder than being a striker

thank you that's what I was saying! glad we agree! Tho I still say that when you play central midfield or fantasista you don't have 3 other guys, fantasista is a lonely lonely boring job..... and central midfield you have your other central midfielder and then the wingers go off wanking down the flanks. As striker if you stuff up your got 4-5 guys behind you ready to pump it your way again, in midfield if you stuff it the defense might be compromised.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Severus
Hehehe, you said said you dont have mids when you had almost the same players as in WC 02 and youre best players was supposedly Totti, and another factor was where was Montella??? What did Crap do to him????

exactly. ask trapattoni where montella was. not me. secondly, what are you talking about concerning italia's mid and how it was exactly the same as 2002 ??? do you mean euro2000 ??? because even then we had fiore and ambrosini 2 midfielders who were sorely missed in japan/korea for their creativity and sound overall game. 2 pretty crucial players wouldn't you say ? i'm beginning to think that not even yourself knows what you are mumbling about.


thanks. now did you just rephrase everything i just said to you or am i imagining it ?

Korea match would be a perfect example so would the Euro00 final

not really because the euro final was scoreless up until the 60th minute or so until we drew first blood but even for 90 minutes not including injury time we outplayed the world champs for the most part which is better than any team managed to do for almost 4 years. the koreans however was a different situation i thought because after vieri scored in the 20th minute we were practically impotent against these tadpoles who we made look like one of the elite when in reality, they are futbol weaklings. don't get me started on catenaccio because i'll go on for hours about it. just know that you don't have to endlessly remind me of how sh|t catenaccio is because i know first hand thank you very much. i was familiar with catenaccio before you even knew what a futbol looked like so spare me the needless words.

B]Hehehe, you said said you dont have mids when you had almost the same players as in WC 02 and youre best players was supposedly Totti, and another factor was where was Montella??? What did Crap do to him????

exactly. ask trapattoni where montella was. not me. secondly, what are you talking about concerning italia's mid and how it was exactly the same as 2002 ??? do you mean euro2000 ??? because even then we had fiore and ambrosini 2 midfielders who were sorely missed in japan/korea for their creativity and sound overall game. 2 pretty crucial players wouldn't you say ? i'm beginning to think that not even yourself knows what you are mumbling about.

Sorry for having a mistake, i hope youre smart enough to see what i was trying to say.

Youre star player was Totti, and you saw how he played in 00 and now in 02. You guys did miss Fiore, not sure about Ambro, but you have plenty of mids that can give you enough flair to beat Croatia, Mexico, and Korea.

For the catenaccio..... you might score the first goal and turn off the engine but when you let in the goal you never turn your engine back on !

Now, when exactly did you talk about this???? I thought you were pro-catenaccio.

[Looney]

Severus isn't pro-catenaccio, you couldn't tell? I don't think anyone is..... Severus is pro-Inter tho, he just wants us to think he supports Juve......

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Looney
Severus isn't pro-catenaccio, you couldn't tell? I don't think anyone is..... Severus is pro-Inter tho, he just wants us to think he supports Juve......

Oh, ok I understand :D ;)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Looney
Severus isn't pro-catenaccio, you couldn't tell? I don't think anyone is..... Severus is pro-Inter tho, he just wants us to think he supports Juve......

You're right, but he said his family forced him to support Juve. You should lay off him since he can't think for himself.

[Looney]

That actually fits with Mus' allegations that Severus was molested as a child..... "join Juve little one..... or we do this......." "no papa I love Inter!" "Join JUVE Severus! It's is your destiny!" "No papa please don't do that! I'll join Juve! I'll serve the Inzaghi's up the road! Please don't hurt me anymore papa!"

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Looney
That actually fits with Mus' allegations that Severus was molested as a child..... "join Juve little one..... or we do this......." "no papa I love Inter!" "Join JUVE Severus! It's is your destiny!" "No papa please don't do that! I'll join Juve! I'll serve the Inzaghi's up the road! Please don't hurt me anymore papa!"

OUCH! That's a very low blow! Very low indeed! I thought my Scheva kidnapping jokes were low.

[BLAUGRANA]

LOL!!! This is the 5 :star: thread of the Juve forum.

[Looney]

It's revenge for one cheapshot or the other he's thrown at me sometime in the past two years..... he'll probably remember this one and hit me with a lower one later or kill me if he ever sees me...

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


OUCH! That's a very low blow! Very low indeed! I thought my Scheva kidnapping jokes were low.

Even lower than Tyson's ear bite :D

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
LOL!!! This is the 5 :star: thread of the Juve forum.

I'll take that as a compliment

[Severus]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


You're right, but he said his family forced him to support Juve. You should lay off him since he can't think for himself.

well atleast i don't support every team that starts with A, B and I like you. if someone asks you which team you support you'd consume about 20 minutes of their day just naming all your favourites. then about another 60 naming the teams on your prospect list. let's shorten the list to about a dozen by september can you do that ?

[Severus]

Originally posted by Looney
That actually fits with Mus' allegations that Severus was molested as a child..... "join Juve little one..... or we do this......." "no papa I love Inter!" "Join JUVE Severus! It's is your destiny!" "No papa please don't do that! I'll join Juve! I'll serve the Inzaghi's up the road! Please don't hurt me anymore papa!"

listen just because incest runs rampant in your household and genes to go bringing mus the anti-anything into this. off the record though, who was your most passionate affair with ? your mom ? or how about auntie joan down by the tree where you fukked your first kangaroo by ?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Severus


well atleast i don't support every team that starts with A, B and I like you. if someone asks you which team you support you'd consume about 20 minutes of their day just naming all your favourites. then about another 60 naming the teams on your prospect list. let's shorten the list to about a dozen by september can you do that ?

Typical Sev post. I knew that was coming. It's been 3 all along. At least I don't open up a book and go "Looky here eh. Juventus has nearly double the Scudettos as everyone else, eh! I'm gonna support them cause none of the other teams will catch them any time soon, so I won't have to change who I support eh. And the refs on their side will be nice too eh. EH!"

[Looney]

Originally posted by Severus


listen just because incest runs rampant in your household and genes to go bringing mus the anti-anything into this. off the record though, who was your most passionate affair with ? your mom ? or how about auntie joan down by the tree where you fukked your first kangaroo by ?

Yep. Your mom. :D

Sorry Viva, just old scores...... no hard feelings?

[Severus]

no none at all :). go look at the as useless as thread where i started my blitz on you. you do know that you and i are now engaged in a full scale war of words eh.

[Severus]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Typical Sev post. I knew that was coming. It's been 3 all along. At least I don't open up a book and go "Looky here eh. Juventus has nearly double the Scudettos as everyone else, eh! I'm gonna support them cause none of the other teams will catch them any time soon, so I won't have to change who I support eh. And the refs on their side will be nice too eh. EH!"

yeah right. its more like 30.

A:
ajax
atalanta
athletico madrid
arsenal
athletic de bilbao
anderlecht
aston villa
aberdeen
austria memphis
aalborg
AIK
austria salzburg
antwerp

B:
barca
blackburn rovers
bolton wanderers
bologna
bastia
bourdeux
borussia dortmund
bayer leverkusen
beitar jerusalem
brescia
boavista
brann SK
benfica
boca juniors
brondby

I:
internazionale
ipswich town

your hurtin' for some I's though eh ? i am sure if you look in south america you'll find some there. increase the list to about 40.

[Looney]

Originally posted by Severus
no none at all :). go look at the as useless as thread where i started my blitz on you. you do know that you and i are now engaged in a full scale war of words eh.

As long as it isn't a battle of intellect 'cause I refuse to fight against an unarmed opponent.

[Severus]

Originally posted by Looney


As long as it isn't a battle of intellect 'cause I refuse to fight against an unarmed opponent.

well you managed to carry on a ridiculous argument with ronnie raygun for about half a year. i'd say your a hypocrite.

[Looney]

That wasn't a battle, that was more like a predator toying with a little animal before biting it's head off and leaving the corpse for the vultures.

[ItalianBoy]

Originally posted by Looney


Yeah Totti! Gay orgy and he wasn't invited to host?
That was probably Shevchenko you were thinking about!

[Juan]

This thread is so f*cking funny :D

[Severus]

word has it that a possible situation of a prostitution ring involving some AS roma players is developing now too.

[BLAUGRANA]

I didn't know that Juve transferred Paolo Montero, Mark Iuliano, Igor Tudor and Athirson to Roma? Were they part of one of Totti's orgies? :D

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Severus
word has it that a possible situation of a prostitution ring involving some AS roma players is developing now too.

covering up your guilt by point fingers at Roma :rolleyes: :D:D:D

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
I didn't know that Juve transferred Paolo Montero, Mark Iuliano, Igor Tudor and Athirson to Roma? Were they part of one of Totti's orgies? :D

Athirson is in Brazil earning a degree in pimpocology :D and then he'll come back and with souveniers (his whores) for the whole Juve squad. :D

[Severus]

look, if you haven't noticed yet this prostitution scandal hasn't phased me in the least. i really don't care. reveal reports indicating that my boys raped women like your patty kluivert enjoys doing then i'll be shamed.

otherwise .......................... :dontcare:

[Looney]

Well, I heard Trezeguet was about to rape this chick....... then he remember he's gay so he went back to Davids.

[Severus]

shevchenko's as gay as they come. pure flamer when he's dressed in street clothes with that lid.

[Looney]

Even if he's gay, at least he's got a prettier biatch in Inzaghi than Davids has in Trezeguet. I mean, Trezeguet looks like a potato with a soul patch!

[alex_10]

blah!
for u is importand how looks players?
maybe he is like potato,but last year he push his ``stick`` in your mouth,lol
i wish u luck this season

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Looney
Trezeguet. I mean, Trezeguet looks like a potato with a soul patch!

thats the best description I have heard of Trezegay :D

[BLAUGRANA]

I'll post this here as opposed to starting a new thread. It'll get seen here too because this is the most popular thread in the Juve forum. :D This from Uefa.com:


Roberto Bettega chat - Thursday 13:00CET
Monday 26 August 2002
Roberto Bettega will drop into the uefa.com chat room in Monaco at approximately 13:00CET on Thursday. The former Italian international and current Juventus FC vice-president will answer questions about his footballing career and the Turin club's prospects for the coming season.

Roberto Bettega profile
Birthplace: Torino, Italy
Date of birth: 27 December 1950
Playing position: Forward
Former clubs: Varese FC, Juventus FC and Toronto Blizzard (Canada)
Serie A debut: 27 September 1970 (Atletico Catania 0-1 Juventus FC, Bettega scored)
Serie A career: 326 appearances and 129 goals for Juventus
Honours: Seven Serie A league championships, Coppa Italia twice and UEFA Cup winner (all with Juventus), One Serie B league championship (Varese)
International career: 42 appearances and 18 goals for Italy