View Full Version : Ronaldo the best, no doubt!
Il fenomeno
06-30-2002, 04:04 PM
Well, Ronaldo has won the World Cup with Brazil... this is excellent, after all that he has gone through, he deserves this.
Im already looking forward for him to wear the blue and black shirt, and win us all that is to be won.
Im already feeling the superiority..
FORZA INTER
kennystyle
06-30-2002, 06:13 PM
absolutely right...
and to be honest, I don't think he is in his top form now. He still needs up to a half season to get back to his best. Now he scores and makes chanches for others to score, but is missing the fantastic movements that made his game unique. But he will be FIFA world player of the year again, and again. :-)
Oh, one more thing. Today he was a fighter. He recovered his lost ball before the first goal, and he defended when the team needed it.
I like the way he played today, but he will be yet a lot better!!!!!
tok87
06-30-2002, 07:34 PM
He must stay!!!!!!!!
With him we will be champs, no doubt.
Go INTER, go RONNIE!
i must agree, ronaldo is the best striker in the world... before the WC i was quite skeptical about his progress..... but after seeing this game i know he'll be a force to watch out for in the serie a
Sebastian
06-30-2002, 09:07 PM
NOT that he's the best player in the world...but what's more exiting is that he's the GREATEST STRIKER of all times.....:smoking:.....
just what i said.... greatest STRIKER
Originally posted by elcino
NOT that he's the best player in the world...but what's more exiting is that he's the GREATEST STRIKER of all times.....:smoking:.....
Now let's not get carried away elcino.The greatest striker in the world today-yes.But the greatest striker of all time-no.Ronnie still has someway to go before he can emulate Pele and Maradona but he is still young and i have no doubt that he can do it.
Il fenomeno
06-30-2002, 11:22 PM
The fact is, Ronaldo played around 70 % of his capacities, and won the World Cup. No imagine this, Ronaldo is playing on 100 % for Inter...we will be an extraordinary team...
I hope that Ronaldinho could come, he would be better than Vieri IMO... and Nesta too, altough could anyone update what the hell is going on with him?
Ronaldo will be the best ever in about 5 years time is my prediction, he will easily be the FIFA Player of the year.
Now he will win Champions League + Serie A for US!!!
FORZA INTER AND FORZA RONALDO
Skualo
07-01-2002, 02:30 AM
ronaldo is a "phenomenon"...just brilliant but i must agree hes not the greatest until NOW you guys will hate me but i have to be honest..for me ronaldo will be the best..well today hes the best of the world but cus he won the WC and the scorer title with 8 but hes not on a 100%..for me one of the best and the one ronaldo needs to "beat" on a 1vs1 figth..is....shevchenko..even if he plays at milan he is one of the best strikers of the hole world..hes on a slum now but wacth out..on hes firts year in serie a he won the canonieri..so ronnie prepare to the final figth :D vs sheva a figth you must and will win..TWICE ;)
pd:im affraid ronaldo will never tied maradona..the modern soccer dont let it..
Il fenomeno
07-01-2002, 10:04 AM
Ronaldo is something special... I mean, there is no one like him. Ronaldo needs just two seconds to change a game. Two seconds of brilliance against turkey for example... I must say, he is returning. He will probably return to us around the 23rd of July. Im really looking forward to see him...
Severus
07-01-2002, 07:00 PM
fact is he scored on 2 german mistakes and missed atleast 3 glorious chances. kind of like inzaghi does. how these types of poachers can be considered "special" is beyond my realm of comprehension.
if he was so great he would've won lo scudetto by now.
Jasper
07-01-2002, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by Severus
fact is he scored on 2 german mistakes and missed atleast 3 glorious chances. kind of like inzaghi does. how these types of poachers can be considered "special" is beyond my realm of comprehension.
if he was so great he would've won lo scudetto by now.
Absolutely unbelievable.
I really don't know what world cup final you were watching but the second goal wasn't a german mistake. It was a fine pass by Kleberson and an excellent dummy by Rivaldo that put Ronaldo in - he held off the defender and drilled his shot to perfection. If the defender failed to tackle or block the shot that doesn't mean its a mistake. He was simply outsmarted by a far better player. Whenever strikers score they mostly outwitt the defenders, but it doesn't mean the defenders made mistakes. So I really can't see how you call it a german mistake.
And as for poachers being called special, it just shows how short sighted your view of football is. Sure, Ronaldo scored a poachers goal, but isn't that what strikers are supposed to do? Many strikers miss such simple chances! Furthermore it takes lightning reaction and speed to get in there at the right moment. Split second decisions! He is being called special *not* because of one goal but because of his performances and considering the pressures and shit hes been through. His sheer brilliance can change a game instantly.
Il fenomeno
07-01-2002, 10:39 PM
severus is a ***k head. He likes flops like Del Piero ahhahahahahah... wasn't he supposed to take Italy to final. No, sorry, he sucks. He aint a good player, I remember, everytime he got the chance, the first thing he did was loose the ball. He lost it several times, and did nothing special, besides a luck goal that should have been Vieris.
hahahahhahahah bell pierooo
Del Piero wasn't exactly given a lot of chances at the WC now was he? And if he hadn't scored the goal Italy might have had to suffer the embarassment of a fist round exit.
Slavenik
07-01-2002, 10:58 PM
Severus, lets start from the preasure. Do you know how was Roni feeling about this match?? How can you know. He scored two goals. For the first one, it was Kahns mstake, but you know Roni was smart enough to go for the ball, like he knew what was going to happen, something like the goal Roni scored against Chievo, the second match (2-2) When he scored the second goal after Lupateli missed the ball.
As for the second one, comon, it doesnt take a hyper-inteligent person to understand that it was a great goal. How it went past Kahn. But Rivaldo did the right thing:) letting the ball go. And as far as i know now Roni is up there with Pele with 8 goals scored on one WC. He has scored 12 goals so far on the WCs, and the recorder here is Miller with 14. So do you think that Roni will score more than 2 goals in 2006? I do:p
And hwo do you Severus think is the best striker at the moment?? Trezeguet? DP?
Il fenomeno, why are you so much against Vieri? Bobo is class, you must admit it. I like Ronaldinho, maybe after this season ends ar afetr two seasons. But now i stick with Vieraldo.
Remember that Severus just hates Inter players.If Trezeguet played for Inter he would say that he is bad.
tok87
07-01-2002, 11:05 PM
:silly:
We will see who will laugh this year at the end. Scudetto and champions league is waiting for us.
FORZA INTER!
BLAUGRANA
07-02-2002, 12:36 AM
Right dozz. He'd say the same about del Piero too.
nismo
07-02-2002, 11:44 AM
don't buy into severus propaganda sh!t it's pure nonsense.
half his time on this board is devoted to degrading inter as much as possible with the same subjective views that he always posts up, only worded differently from time to time. i got sick and tired of arguing with him, as it's almost impossible to break down the sociopathic wall he builds to protect himself.
yes i agree with you guys 100%, if DP or trezeguet came to inter severus would most probably be bagging them, can you imagine if inter bought juventus one day, and used their club grounds to build a nursey school for children, severus would still be giving sh!t to inter for the sake of it.
Il fenomeno
07-02-2002, 12:04 PM
slavenik, vieri is a good player, but all in all, Ronaldinho is far better. He has pace, dribbling, everything. IMO there is better cooperation between them, than Ronaldo and Vieir, where Vieri usually hits wrong pass or looses the ball... Vieiri is good in the penalty area, but frankly, he is worthless out of it... that is what im saying... he can never become the best in the world, even though he scores...
Ronaldinho would be better...
And I would rather support Ronaldinho-Recoba behind Ronaldo.... If that means sell Vieri, it is time to sacrifice now.
nismo
07-02-2002, 12:15 PM
i can't believe what i'm reading:eek:
it's your opinion and i respect that il fenomeno
but i just want to say without vieri's input, i doubt inter would've held the lead for 2001/2002 for that long. Vieri is not a penalty box drifter like romario is, vieri can move without the ball as well. and he has scored goals from outside the box ahem, against parma 2-0.
I understand what you mean by gaucho and ronnie cooperation, but bobo and ronnie are the perfect striker partners and their attributes compliment eachother flawlessly. Bobo power and physical prescence combined with ronaldo's intelligent dribbling and movement is the best formula next to E=mc2
Slavenik
07-02-2002, 01:57 PM
Comon Il Fenomeno, you even say that Recoba is better than Vieri:eek: :redeyes: :dontcare:
R9ronaldo
07-02-2002, 02:32 PM
i agree with nismo you gotta have 1 strong stricker and 1 good dribbler so that is the perfect combernation. but for ronaldinho. recoba and ronaldo there all good and fast but there not stong enough IMO:D
Only a lunatic would even comprehend selling Vieri.I don't care what anyone says, Vieri is one of the top 5 strikers in the World and is much more valuable to Inter than Ronaldinho would be.If we signed Ronaldinho there would be no point in having wingers as there would be nobody to head in the crosses without Vieri.Vieri is a breed of striker that is hard to find;big,strong yet agile, good in the air and a deadly finisher.
FORZA BOBO
nismo
07-03-2002, 10:50 AM
Should Gaucho even join inter at the expense of Bobo, i can't envisage Gaucho winning battles with the likes of nesta (that's if he deicdes to stay at lazio or go elsewhere) , montero (who would break his legs), cannavaro and other world class defenders.
Sebastian
07-03-2002, 06:49 PM
.....think..:mad2:......is there a better STRIKING duo than RONIE and BOBO.....:confused:........i understand that you like RONIE but BOBO something DIFERENT....lot diferent from RONIE.....and they bouth play deferent stile of football...they're the BEST from TWO WORLDS.....and you're coments are OUTRAGEOUS....and simply REDICULOUS....:rolleyes:....
Elvis Pressley
07-03-2002, 08:52 PM
I agree with Elcino, Ronaldinho is a world class player, but hes no Vieri.
whats all this nonsense about Vieri being rubbish outside the penatly box, that is gibberish, Vieri often drifts out to the left wing and sends in a good cross. Ive seen him do that so many times, I used to think he must have started his career as a left winger!
also, he scored many goals from outside the box last season, while his right foot is very average, there are not many players in the world with a left foot as good as his.
and also, I cant believe your critiscising his close control, didnt you see all the lil flicks here and there he was doing with Ronaldo as the tail end of last season? I admit he is cumbersum, but Ronaldo and Vieri are the perfect foil for each other.
there is no better strike force in world football, and you couldnt create a better one no matter how much money you had!
Skualo
07-04-2002, 02:46 AM
agree with you guys...they play different types of attack one uses the strength the other the samba;) ....just perfect...vieri had 21 or 22 goals i dont remember clear last season and ronaldo got 7 if a dont miss in 9 games something like that..imagine if ronaldo plays the entire 34 games along side with vieri...:evil:
ronaldhino is more like a playmaker and he is realy good we all could see that in the world cup but hes not vieri...and never will be
Severus
07-04-2002, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by Jasper
Absolutely unbelievable.
I really don't know what world cup final you were watching but the second goal wasn't a german mistake. It was a fine pass by Kleberson and an excellent dummy by Rivaldo that put Ronaldo in - he held off the defender and drilled his shot to perfection. If the defender failed to tackle or block the shot that doesn't mean its a mistake. He was simply outsmarted by a far better player. Whenever strikers score they mostly outwitt the defenders, but it doesn't mean the defenders made mistakes. So I really can't see how you call it a german mistake.
And as for poachers being called special, it just shows how short sighted your view of football is. Sure, Ronaldo scored a poachers goal, but isn't that what strikers are supposed to do? Many strikers miss such simple chances! Furthermore it takes lightning reaction and speed to get in there at the right moment. Split second decisions! He is being called special *not* because of one goal but because of his performances and considering the pressures and shit hes been through. His sheer brilliance can change a game instantly.
look, i don't know what game you were watching, but that second goal should not have even transpired if his marker was actually MARKING !!!!!!!!!! he was given time, space to let go a pin-point pure strikers goal. that's not out-witting. out-witting a defender is putting him out of position. all the marker did was give him a freebe in my estimation. however, as you said, he still scored in the end and that's what matters. despite the fact ronaldo did see many better played matches i am sure on his part.
Severus
07-04-2002, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by doz222
Remember that Severus just hates Inter players.If Trezeguet played for Inter he would say that he is bad.
i loved baggio and pirlo when they played for them and i am big fans of toldo and vieri now so i can't see how there is any truth to your assumptions. i respect greatness.
BLAUGRANA
07-04-2002, 08:44 AM
Thanks Severus. It's nice to know your respected.
Il fenomeno
07-04-2002, 12:12 PM
Listen, Ronaldo-Vieri is excellent, but IMO, there are better. For example, the three R's in Brazil, who can beat that? Roandlinho is definetly a world beater. Most of Vieri's goals are luck and tap ins, but I do not even want to enter that discussion. Just look at Vieri's goals I mean. Who cant do that. U do not have to make crosses, u could play with ground football, fast football. All I see is Vieri slowing things down.
Ronaldo-Recoba-Ronaldinho would be something fantastic IMO, Ronaldinho and Recoba have excellent freekicks and shots, Ronaldo is simply the best. I hope we try this in the future, I mean, Vieri will soon be 30... when he is 31-32 he will definetly not be a starter. I understand that u guys idolize Vieri, but the fact is, he is nothing special, but scores goals.
Milan-Inter 0-1...
It would be the battle of Vieri vs Shevchenko Sheva ran more, made more chances, but in the end, it was Vieri who pounced in a rebound. So just because of that, Vieri is better than Shevchenko? no way.
If you respected greatness Severus you would have to respect ronaldo and Javier Zanetti which you don't.:rolleyes:
Severus
07-04-2002, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Il fenomeno
I understand that u guys idolize Vieri, but the fact is, he is nothing special, but scores goals.
so because he scores goals he's nothing special ????? i find this puzzling coming from an interista because if it wasn't for bobo you scumbags would be lingering near the cellar rather than near the top. for most of the season, if you are aware, inter was VIERI and the reason why lazio-inter was so significant for you lot before you smucks choked was because of vieri getting you to that point.
furthermore, vieri scored on the last day, where was ronaldo's goal ???????????
It would be the battle of Vieri vs Shevchenko Sheva ran more, made more chances, but in the end, it was Vieri who pounced in a rebound. So just because of that, Vieri is better than Shevchenko? no way.
where was shevchenko for most of the season when he wasn't in inconsistent mode ? in the end, it was vieri who outscored shevchenko all season was it not ? so sheva's better than vieri because ...............
????????
Severus
07-04-2002, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by doz222
If you respected greatness Severus you would have to respect ronaldo and Javier Zanetti which you don't.:rolleyes:
zanetti is not greatness, i don't know what planet you're living on. he's a good leader but he sure as hell is not great at anything.
ronaldo on the other hand i despise more than anything but atleast i recognize him as one of the best strikers in the world. i don't have to like him to respect him thanks very much..
nismo
07-04-2002, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Severus
so because he scores goals he's nothing special ????? i find this puzzling coming from an interista because if it wasn't for bobo you scumbags would be lingering near the cellar rather than near the top. for most of the season, if you are aware, inter was VIERI and the reason why lazio-inter was so significant for you lot before you smucks choked was because of vieri getting you to that point.
hard to say, but the dip has a point.
il fenemeno, with all due respect, i can't comprehend why you find vieri so inefficient. paraphrasing our infamous juvetino(bopper) when vieri scored inter won, well for most of the time anyways prior to ronaldo returning. he might not be class and flashy when it comes to dribbling, but he still shows nimbleness in his feet to be comparable to van basten.
nismo
07-04-2002, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by Severus
i don't have to like him to respect him thanks very much..
the feelings mutual to you as well
Severus
07-05-2002, 04:36 AM
and i take that as a compliment thank you.
BLAUGRANA
07-05-2002, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by Il fenomeno
Listen, Ronaldo-Vieri is excellent, but IMO, there are better. For example, the three R's in Brazil, who can beat that? Roandlinho is definetly a world beater. Most of Vieri's goals are luck and tap ins, but I do not even want to enter that discussion. Just look at Vieri's goals I mean. Who cant do that. U do not have to make crosses, u could play with ground football, fast football. All I see is Vieri slowing things down.
Ronaldo-Recoba-Ronaldinho would be something fantastic IMO, Ronaldinho and Recoba have excellent freekicks and shots, Ronaldo is simply the best. I hope we try this in the future, I mean, Vieri will soon be 30... when he is 31-32 he will definetly not be a starter. I understand that u guys idolize Vieri, but the fact is, he is nothing special, but scores goals.
Milan-Inter 0-1...
It would be the battle of Vieri vs Shevchenko Sheva ran more, made more chances, but in the end, it was Vieri who pounced in a rebound. So just because of that, Vieri is better than Shevchenko? no way.
OMG, how ridiculous!!! Vieri is the best thing that's happened to Inter in a long time. BETTER THAN RONALDO!!! HAHAHA!!!! Ronaldinho???? I'd rather take a chance on Vieri's little brother than on Ronaldinho. If he's related, maybe the greatness of Vieri is genetic and he got it too. What a joke. Vieri will be a starter when he's 31-32. His is IMO the best overall striker in the world. He has all the skills and does everything. Name a striker who's strike rate is even close to Vieri's 21 goals in 24 matches. YOU CAN'T!!!
BLAUGRANA
07-05-2002, 04:42 AM
Originally posted by Severus
zanetti is not greatness, i don't know what planet you're living on. he's a good leader but he sure as hell is not great at anything.
ronaldo on the other hand i despise more than anything but atleast i recognize him as one of the best strikers in the world. i don't have to like him to respect him thanks very much..
J Zanetti is great Sev. He's great both offensively and defensively. Dont' make me pull out the stats again.
Slavenik
07-05-2002, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by Sevrus
zanetti is not greatness, i don't know what planet you're living on. he's a good leader but he sure as hell is not great at anything.
Severus, i think that your glasses arent working. You should change them man.
i WOULD rather agree with ilfenomeno Vieri scores but he should have done better at the WC. About his play for Inter I also think nothing so special but he scores what he can so I respect him! probablyu he has some specialties :D
ronie
07-05-2002, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by azulgrana
OMG, how ridiculous!!! Vieri is the best thing that's happened to Inter in a long time. BETTER THAN RONALDO!!! HAHAHA!!!! Ronaldinho???? I'd rather take a chance on Vieri's little brother than on Ronaldinho. If he's related, maybe the greatness of Vieri is genetic and he got it too. What a joke. Vieri will be a starter when he's 31-32. His is IMO the best overall striker in the world. He has all the skills and does everything. Name a striker who's strike rate is even close to Vieri's 21 goals in 24 matches. YOU CAN'T!!! ronaldo is better that vieri not in the air but in the ground. he's got the skills and the technique
Originally posted by Slavenik
Severus, i think that your glasses arent working. You should change them man.
I think you're right Slavenik.Name a RB better than Javier Zanetti Sev.
Skualo
07-06-2002, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by Zek
i WOULD rather agree with ilfenomeno Vieri scores but he should have done better at the WC. About his play for Inter I also think nothing so special but he scores what he can so I respect him! probablyu he has some specialties :D
does the goals vs juve in the birra moretti cup on the preseason and the one vs parma 2 years ago werent special?...and the 22 or 23 goals he scored and give inter a chance for an scudetto doenst is special too?...i see.:fed-up:
nismo
07-06-2002, 06:13 AM
who was the player to end inter's misery against milan?????
even if it was a scrappy goal, it show's bobo's predatory instincts.
ilcapitano
07-07-2002, 06:06 PM
Ronaldo going nowhere...:)
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