U.S Sucks!!!!!

[Storm]

The U.S have been fluking their way throughout this tournament. It isn't helped when the media such as ESPN and CNN are so pro-American in their reports of the World Cup. The U.S beat a Portugal side that was far from their best, they were made to look like fools against South Korea(though the reports in the media fail to give a true account of that match) and when they met a Polish side playing with a largely a reserve team, they were gang raped. Polland is far from a football power and even with their 2nd string side they tore the U.S a new #@$%hole. Their luck doesn't end their either, despite finishing 2nd in their group, they draw the easier team in Mexico, lets be honest South Korea had the tougher opponent in Italy despite the fact they finished 1st.

LETS NOT FORGET THE HAND OF GOD IN THE MEXICO MATCH!!!!!!!!

Even though I don't think much of the Germans, let us all hope that the U.S get a Saudi Arabia like whipping. Hopefully that will help silence the increasingly vocal, egotistical, biased and uneducated(football sense) Americans.

The fact is the U.S r getting a very very big head over nothing!!!!!

[mirkwood]

huh huh huh huh...Storm said suck...huh huh huh

[ukgoalie]

you may ot think that the US are very good, but they have done well to get where thay are. a lot beter than 1998 when they finished 32 out of 32

[ItalianBoy]

I agree about 2 things. The USA did well until now, but its true, the USA media etc is getting to hyped about the team.

[ffifield]

This thread is a joke.

First we were going to get killed by Portugal and when we beat them all of a sudden Portugal is incompetent. We are the only team in the tournament that can claim a point against Korea who was allowed to foul at will and yet again that is somehow a fluke. We have a letdown against a Polish team that many favored to advance from the group. Who knows how that game would have turned out without the dubious foul called against Donovan on his equalizer but of course, nobody remembers that. Then the Great Mexicans who nearly put Italy out of the tournament catch the Portugese Incompetency Syndrome against the US.

May the US win, for no other reason than to keep you bitter for a few more days. You deserve it.

[Storm]

Poor Guy (ffifield) doesn't know soccer, just like the biased American media. U were lucky to claim the point against Korea, did u even watch the match from a unbiased perspective????? I know it is hard, but do try!!! That polish side like I said b4 was 2nd rate and Polland haven't been a football power for decades!!!!! Mexico might have had their moments during the tournament, but we all know they r much easier than say an Italy. U failed to acknowledge the HAND OF GOD, or do u just erase moments like that from your memory............oh I don't really see your media reporst reflect that incident either, just like a typical America covering up all types of negatives such as atrocities and selfish experiments they continiually conduct to the detriment of the rest of the world. American's can't even play soccer with out using their hand what a absolute HACK!!!!, no wonder when it comes to bigger things such as war the U.S helped in a big way to invent the term friendly fire when u consider the amount of stupid accidents the U.S army r responsible for!!!!

The U.S r doing a wonderful job looking stupid through their talkshows already, there is no need for them to take on more roles!!!! That way the World would truly be a safer place!!!

[mirkwood]

Hey, you forgot to mention that the USA bought the refs in the England Brazil game, to make sure the old Colonial kingdom did not get further in the WC then the USA did. Oh yea...they also bought the refs in all three French games, to prevent them from winning a second WC in a row. Can't have any repeats can we? There is no need to mention the "Hand Of God", not that it would have made a difference (2-1, 2-0, either score and Mexico is still out)...the ref was paid not to call PK's against the USA. I suppose they better make sure they paid the refs for today's game against Germany....I'd hate to see all that $$$ go to waste and not win the WC. At the rate the USA is spending $$$ on refs, we won't even have to show up to the next WC, they'll just give the USA the trophy without playing a game!!!!

[Storm]

I never mentioned or even hinted the U.S were into bribery and corruption. My dear friend Mirkwood seems to have a penchant for exaggeration and irrelevance. Only a ignorant, stupid, superficial or totally biased individual would claim that the HAND OF GOD was irrelevant!!!! Moments like these have a direct impact and a huge bearing on the outcomes of games because they greatly effect the minds and spirit of the players involved, that is y these moments can be classified as turning points or crucial moments. From the U.S perspective there definitly is a vested interest to not mention the HAND OF GOD, that is probably y CNN or ESPN skipped, neglected or overlooked the whole incident, just like our friend MIRKWOOD would also like to have everyone doing. I mean lets just sweep everything under the carpet, hey y not have eleven players all being able to use our hands!!!!

Doesn't matter now because the U.S lost and r out of the tournament. So the integrity of this World Cup is safe from further incidents such as the HAND OF GOD we all witnessed in the Mexico match.

I will however agree with UKGOALIE, the U.S r a better side than the one from 1998.

[Toldo No.1]

Personally I was highly impressed with the way the US have played throughout this WC. Even today they outplayed Germany, only a good performance by Kahn stopped the US from going through. Landon Donovan has also been impressive.

As I'm sure when they get back home the majority of US people will hardly care what they have acheived, they can have a big CONGRATULATIONS from me (which I'm sure they would prefer anyway :) ).

[OAnimal]

I am also surprised by the US performance. They deserved to go to the semifinals, but that's football. Congrats to USA!

[mirkwood]

Poor Storm....doesn't understand sarcasm....oh well, that is some fans for you.

[Storm]

I'm sorry Mirkwood, but did u ever hear the saying "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit"?

[Roberto Abrego]

USa have improvre allot,but I dont think they can repeat that at the 2006 WC.

[Yacoob]

Maybe underestimating them will be the key to a repeat performance in 2006?! ;)

I'm impressed by their performance too, I was rooting for them against the Germans, and it was unfortunate to see Donovan do too much and yet not finish that job with a goal.

[B@tigol]

the us team deserved credits for their performance in the wc, evryone were thinking about argentina, france, portugal, italy fighting each other in the q-finals before the wc start, but they were not there, it was us fighting there, no matter what u say, a team in the q-final would not be there by pure luck

[mirkwood]

Yes I have, it is used along with, "talking to the lowest common denominator."

[Ronnie Raygun]

Storm, who do you support?

[Storm]

I support Holland and Columbia, both were not present in this World Cup. So for this Cup I gave my support to Italy (withdrawn until they play better), Spain and South Korea. All of which r gone now, I like teams that play with heart, finesse and r enterprising.

[Ronnie Raygun]

Where are you from and where do you live? If you don't mind me asking. It doesn't say in your profile.

[Storm]

Does it matter?

[valdanito]

Holland and Colombia were truely missed in the WC

[keev]

Storm.....take it easy a little, man. There is no reason to get all upset. Yes the USA got away with a hand ball and somehow the ref missed it. But it hasn't gone unnoticed in the American media. In nearly all the highlight reels I saw of the game on ESPN and other networks, the hand ball was in them. Even during the Germany game, the American commentators brought up that the German hand ball was kind of a justice for the one during the Mexico game. And btw, the American media isn't overhyping anything, they are just finally starting to give soccer some coverage, still much less than around the world. Of course the American media is pro-American....would a Dutch paper not be pro-Dutch? Anyway Storm, there is no real reason to fight here I hope that you can reach an understanding with me and the other American soccer fans on the site. We may not be a Brazil, Italy, or Netherlands but we are progressing. Good luck to Dutch for next World Cup, they were sorely missed this time around.

[Storm]

Keev what u say makes a lot of sense. Having seen the U.S display against Germany, I do feel this U.S side were quite good and my judgment was slightly harsh. They played with a fighting spirit and had a good work ethic.

[Ronnie Raygun]

Uturn

[Storm]

Not a U-Turn, but just appreciating a job well done. The U.S played very well and deserve credit when it is due.

[Ronnie Raygun]

That's not what you said a few days ago. You said just the opposite. You did a Uturn.

[JD]

gr8 performance but are there good enough young players to replace USAs 2 best outfield players Sanneh and Reyna - who will have retired b4 Ger 2006?

[Ronnie Raygun]

I'm not really worried about players. We have players coming up. I'm more worried about what direction and style the team moves towards.

[mirkwood]

If Storm wants to change his mind, cos he is not feeling so heated, he as that right....it is not really a U turn.

Peace?

[Ronnie Raygun]

No......it's a uturn.

[Storm]

A few days ago I didn't see the U.S play Germany. I try to be a fair and reasonable person, the U.S did in fact play well. Like I mentioned b4 I appreciate certain styles of play and in that match the U.S showed a lot of spirit and fight.

It isn't a u-turn, I'm still not a fan of the U.S what so ever, whether it be politics or sports, but a good performance should be acknowledged.

[Ronnie Raygun]

The truth is, you have a bias against American politics and you let it carry over into sport. I'm not trying to be an ass but your attitude sucks. I'm glad that you admitted being wrong about US soccer. That says alot about your character.

[Storm]

M8 u r too pro-American which blinds u to a lot of things that your beloved country is doing wrong. Whether I like/support an American team or not is my choice, plain and simple. It is ok to be proud and supportive of your nation, but a lot of Americans go too far and start putting down others and developing an inflated opinion of themselves and their nation. The U.S harbour some of the most ignorant and biased views around.

Just bc people donn't like the U.S or what they stand for, it certainly doesn't mean they r bad people.

[Ronnie Raygun]

I don't blindly support the actions of the United States government. I despise government and think it's been the biggest enemy to mankind.

I know that the rest of the world is just a little tired of our power and influence throughout the world. I would rather us be self sufficient but that would only hurt economies world wide. There have been instances where our military has overstepped it's bounds but this in no way overshadows the good we've done for the rest of you. We don't want you to kiss our ass, just show a little respect and stop trying to tear us down all the time.

.....and that's exactly what you were originally attempting to with this thread and you know it.

[Storm]

It is always amusing when people insist they know what my intentions or thoughts r.

"There have been instances where our military has overstepped it's bounds but this in no way overshadows the good we've done for the rest of you."

The amount of instances where the U.S military have overstepped it's bounds r too frequent to mention. U may consider the actions of your military benficial to the World, but your military is only deployed when your Government has a self interest involved. The U.S send their troops all over the place even if it is against the wishes of people of those nations ie Middle East, Korea, Japan etc. Also your Government refuses to accept and respect the soverignty of other nations, the job they did in Panama, is actually illeagal according to U.N conventions. I recall the Taliban asked for negotiations and if proof could be supplied, they would gladly hand Bin Laden over. Good old Bush, wanting to start a war to boost your economy and his own waning support and unite a nation refused to negotiate and just started bombing.

Your head of state is a out right idiot, being controlled by someone else. He caused the Yen to drop bc at a press interview he got deflation and inflation mixed up!!!

In order to get respect, u must learn to respect others, the U.S have failed to do this. It must always be your way or we bomb u or some other reprecussions follow. U don't even honour signed agreements ie the Kyoto agreement and many others. How many nations have opposed your star wars program, but it will still go ahead.

In short, the U.S have been using their economic and military might to further their own aims, regardless of it's impact to the rest of the World. The U.S motto has always been be our slave or u will be labled as part of the axis of evil. U.S has become the golbal bully, this is reflected in a lot of the attitudes displayed by U.S citizens that I've met. It is sad, but the U.S collectively have a superiority complex.

[Severus]

hey an anti-american like me ......

i think i found my soul mate.

[Severus]

Originally posted by Storm
I recall the Taliban asked for negotiations and if proof could be supplied, they would gladly hand Bin Laden over. Good old Bush, wanting to start a war to boost your economy and his own waning support and unite a nation refused to negotiate and just started bombing.

this i'd have to disagree with because those scumbag talibans had no intentions of handing over bin laden. and this was demonstrated when they released mullah omar from captivity and then claimed he had escaped. bush did well in not believing anything those 2-faced primitive barbarics would claim to do.

[Ronnie Raygun]

Soul Mate?

Storm must be a male.

Storm is just another jealous individual with tunnell vision. I'm glad I was able to expose you for what you really are. Everyone hates the best. We've been around for many years less years than most of the rest of you and accomplished much much more than most of your countries ever will.

Just think, for the rest of your lives, the United States will be the most powerful nation ever known to mankind.

[Ronnie Raygun]

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Originally posted by Storm
I recall the Taliban asked for negotiations and if proof could be supplied, they would gladly hand Bin Laden over. Good old Bush, wanting to start a war to boost your economy and his own waning support and unite a nation refused to negotiate and just started bombing.
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Only a fool would believe something from the mouths of the taliban. Damn! You're an idiot. You jerks make me appreciate being an American while at the same time making me anti-imigration.

[Storm]

There u go, exposing yourself as the typical American. Ignorant, self-centred, biased and when faced with criticism resorts to name calling and the lame defense of envy and jealousy.

Poor guy, here we have a prime exapmle of what happens when individuals r subjected to propaganda for a long period of time.

U don't have to agree with the U.S to be a good individual. Obviously if the U.S and its supporters had their way, as illustrated by Ronnie here, u would be punished or at the very least called all sorts of names under the sun for not worshipping the U.S.

[Severus]

Originally posted by Ronnie Raygun
Soul Mate?

Storm must be a male.

Storm is just another jealous individual with tunnell vision. I'm glad I was able to expose you for what you really are. Everyone hates the best. We've been around for many years less years than most of the rest of you and accomplished much much more than most of your countries ever will.

Just think, for the rest of your lives, the United States will be the most powerful nation ever known to mankind.

all this and i reckon they've only captured 1 or 2 SR al-qaeda officials in almost a year.

WOW, we're all trembling in our boots !

[Ronnie Raygun]

According to you we do have our way, and yet you don't see this happening. The United States is a symbol of freedom worldwide. Most second grade children know this......of course second grade children also know not to trust the words of known terrorists.

"U don't have to agree with the U.S to be a good individual."

Nobody said you did. We promote those freedoms.

The United States has done much more to promote the freedoms of people worldwide than Austraila or Malaysia or wherever the hell your from.

[Ronnie Raygun]

"all this and i reckon they've only captured 1 or 2 SR al-qaeda officials in almost a year."

.....and killed the rest.

Where's your "soul mate"? You have now proven that you are the average Canadian male.

[Storm]

The U.S try to make themselves appear generous and helpful. U may be decieved by your Governments ongoing plots and schemes, but the rest of the World r not that easily fooled. At the end of the day the U.S r out for their own selfish gains.

[Storm]

I certainly wouldn't want the amount of freedom u U.S have, I mean when kids carry guns and shoot each other, what a great and wonderful place. Or when your Government secretly conducts tests on it's own citizens without their knowledge. The U.S troops have been sending in for help on numerous occassions because they couldn't cut it, or they simply assign the hard stuff to the British, Australian and other international forces in this so called fight against terrorism. Did they report any of that in the U.S media? The U.S can't even go through a war without some friendly fire mishap they caused hitting the headlines.

[Severus]

Originally posted by Ronnie Raygun
"all this and i reckon they've only captured 1 or 2 SR al-qaeda officials in almost a year."

.....and killed the rest.

Where's your "soul mate"? You have now proven that you are the average Canadian male.

thanks. i never said i wasn't. you however have proven on a number of occasions that you are solely a pompous yankee ignoramus that is clueless of a world beyond his borders.

oh, and here's a newsflash stupid. you haven't killed any SR officials yet. right now, they're all gathering in some cave with their ring leader sammy bin laden plotting their next act of cowardice. and all the US military is doing about it is killing either allied or their own soldiers. your country is inflated with so much hot air that it'd take another millenium just to deflate it.

[colrane]

as us citizen I totally agree that our miitary and our government botched it in afghanistan. we only killed a few dozen taliban and al qaeda minnows while all the leadres and best fighters escaped with all their weapons and are probably ready to attack again. we couldn't even capture mulah omar, altough we know exactly where he is. we are also very arrogant, most americans are totally ignorant of the outside world but keep thinking of themselves as superior and in general are people without culture. even our present president, a very ignorant person himself is actually an illegitimate president because he never actually won teh elections. they also take religion far too seriously. we claim that all nations should be democratic but stop when the arab countries are concerned, all arab countries are medieval dictatorships,but because of oil, we let them get away with it. In short, generally we the most insensitive and hypocritical jerks the world has ever known. we also have a very fundamental genetic disfunction: 99.9% of americans know nothing about soccer and could care less that's unforgiven. having said that, the US played very well against germany, outplayed the germans for about 75 out of 90 minutes, had golden opportunities to score and move on to the semi-finals,and maybe even make it to the final against brazil. I don't understand why and how, but there are now quite a lot of very talented young american players who just might do very well in 2006 with the right coaching an attitude.

[figo-portugal]

im a portugal fan and i dont like the us national team after they beat portugal.But you have to give the us props on how far they got in the world cup.

[valdanito]

us plaued great from what was expected

[Storm]

I thank you Colrane for adding your words of wisdom to this thread. Your words go to show that at least there r still U.S citizens that exist , which r aware and acknowledge the double standards the U.S constantly adopt.

I recently found a thread "Canada Sucks" started by our friend Ronnie. Ronnie u give so much crap to the Canadians, does that mean u r jealous/envious of your neighbours?

On a side note, I feel sorry for those Canadian soldiers in Afgan that were bombed to death by their supposed U.S allies.

[Severus]

i think he's jealous because our streets are cleaner than yours ;)

but more importantly because our trailer park sites are paved. that really peevs him off.

[Ronnie Raygun]

Serevus loves tralier parks for some reason.

Australian troops?

Americans jealous of Canadians?

Illigiamate president?

I'm not aware of any of these? But if it makes you feel better........

[Storm]

U once again show your ignorance, though it probably isn't your fault because the U.S media doesn't particularly cover news in a uni-lateral way.

[Ronnie Raygun]

That's typical for a Aussie/Malasian 3rd world maggott.

[Storm]

You seem to be unable to put together rational arguments. there is no need to resort to name calling and racist remarks. U r a sad fellow, u can't have your way and now u become all abusive and the true u appears. Typical U.S redneck.

[Storm]

Please get your facts right.

I never mentioned Malaysia, and I never recall Malaysia was a 3rd world country and neither was Australia. So ignorant of geography.

[Ronnie Raygun]

Do you really think I was talking about geography, you fool. I was refering to your mindset. ***k you and your 3rd world education. Your mind is festers with jealousy almost as much as your mouth is seething of contempt, with no justification for either. If it wasn't for the US, you wouldn't even have this privlidge of using the internet. You can thank us later when you awaken from your ignorant abyss, if that ever happens.

[Storm]

Originally posted by Ronnie Raygun
That's typical for a Aussie/Malasian 3rd world maggott.

Ronnie that last post when viewed by any intelligent non-biased individual would identify u as the RACIST, SELF CENTRED, IGNORANT ETC person that u r. U may still be in the denial stage, and may now relise your errors and r trying your best to cover up with followup posts, but it just won't cut it. U started to get abusive and show your bullying mentality when I stood by my views. U couldn't even get your facts right with the above thread, I never mentioned Malaysia, just like u got stuff wrong on your Canada Sucks thread, u then make a lame excuse u got it from the net. R u that naive that u beleive everything u read from the net..........hahahaha. It seems it is ok for u to post threads that criticise or reflect your own personal dislikes such as the Canada Sucks thread, but thwne others do the same u lose the plot.

What is it with u man, u got a problem with 3rd World countries and stuff? U have in your last 2 posts used 3rd World countires in a derogatory way. Guess it is hard for a redneck, trailer park trash not to have prejudices.

[Storm]

I don't know of any other nation that would accept a coward as their head of state. Your Mr. Bush went AWOL during the Vietnam war, he never got punished though, maybe I guess when your dad is the head of the CIA at the time u do what u want. It wasn't even dangerous what he was doing, he was flying service flights in the U.S heartland.

Did u learn all your obscenities and abusive attitude through your "1st World Education"?

U can't seem to put forth a more intelligent argument, it is always I know in your mind u r jealous or something along that line. Can u read minds? I never saw anything mentioned that u r a psychiatrist or that u had an interest in psychology? What I do know is u r a typical yank who loves his guns........yes I need my guns because it is my right and it is in the constitution also when I get frustrated I can shoot others.

[figo-portugal]

When did this become about politics and not football?

[Storm]

Follow the thread and u will see the instigator, it was intented to be about football.

[Storm]

Originally posted by Ronnie Raygun
The truth is, you have a bias against American politics and you let it carry over into sport. I'm not trying to be an ass but your attitude sucks.

It was always about football until the above was posted.

[colrane]

as a US citizen but an avid brazil fan, I'm very proud of the accomplishment of the US team. they played well most of the time and outplayed germany. I'm very embarrassed at our "president" though. an ignorant,spoiled and lacking of any talent,he couldn't even get elected in a legitimate way. he is where he is because of major fraud in his brother's homestate and beause of his daddy's friends in the US supreme court who made a mockery of our laws and traditions. I'm ashamed that the clown in the white house is a US citizen just like me. I am a californian, and many in our state would like for us to becaome an independent country so we are never associated again with the morons who voted for that man.

[figo-portugal]

People in california do not want to become an independant country. Are yoe crazy?

[colrane]

you must live in southern california, where they are so full of themsleves, they aren't even aware of what's going on and have no clue how much they are despised by us in northern california. many,many people here in the northern california would like to seperate from both southern califonia which steals our water, and from the the rest of the rednecks in the rest of the US,especially the parts that voted for that embarrassment in the white house. we would still be the sixth largets economy in the world and we will have gotten rid of the rednecks. by the way, teh best players of the uS eam were born in californa-donovan and o'brian.

[figo-portugal]

I live in northern california but right now im in Portugal with some of my family. But i do know that california does not want to be an independant country that is crazy!

[colrane]

california is made of 32 miilion people,more and more would like to seperate from the US,not a majority yet,but in teh future,who knows. If you had any brains, you wouldn't call it a crazy idea. there's nothing gained for us by being part of union. between california and new york there's absolutely nothing, mostly human garbage. we trade with asia and europe and latin america. when you say "california doesn't want to seperate" you talk as if all of california doesn't want to seperate",you are ignorant. you also don't think,if you could think,you wouldn't call it crazy at all. I read and heard some of the greatest minds in california advocating this idea.you don't read,obviously. we would be much better off seperating and just think, that clown in the white house won't be our president anymore.

[Storm]

U will no longer be linked with rocket scientists like Ronnie. Wouldn't u just miss this gun loving, self-centered, obnoxious and ignorant bigot? I mean every nation needs people like them, they make the others look good, but then again in the U.S the ratio of Ronnie's is far too high. The problem is even if u separate, it doesn't mean u will be free of Ronnie's, would u then propose a cull?

[figo-portugal]

Listen i agree with you about LA taking our water but this in a nation and not everybody is going to agree on things so lets end this pointless discussion and get back to the matter at hand football.

[colrane]

I agree, let's forget about politics. I must tell you I was dissapointed at the way portugal played. If they are supposed to represent the jogo bonito in europe, they played a pretty dirty style, their tackles were often brutal,aimed at badly injuring their opponenet. I still remeber the great eusebio and the marvelous 1966 portuhuese team. since then,portugal seems to underachieve in every WC they play in. If things don't go their way,they start playing brutal soccer.

[figo-portugal]

Portugal's golden generation played very poor football besides the poland game. Figo has been mediocre of late I think that also contributed to Porugal's poor preformance.

[Ronnie Raygun]

"U will no longer be linked with rocket scientists like Ronnie. Wouldn't u just miss this gun loving, self-centered, obnoxious and ignorant bigot? I mean every nation needs people like them, they make the others look good, but then again in the U.S the ratio of Ronnie's is far too high. The problem is even if u separate, it doesn't mean u will be free of Ronnie's, would u then propose a cull?"

When are you going to understand that being called an ignorant self-centered bigot by you is a blessing? When I first started posting here I never made negative comments about any other nation. After a short period of time I noticed a climate here that is very hostile towards english speaking nations. That's when I started combating them. I've been called every nasty name that your ignorant minds could think of. So if I'm a racist, the rest of you are as well...........and just because I don't like Italian soccer, or third world countries telling me what's wrong with America when they can hardly wipe your own ass, doesn't make me a racist.. We know how to make a society work. We have created the best form of govt. ever known to man. We have given more freedom to more people than any other governing body has....ever. We have defeated evil again and again. Both world wars started in Europe because they couldn't manage their own Continent and we had to come clean the mess. And it will always be this way because most of the rest of the world is dependant upon us on what has become a worldwide welfare state. You have taken advantage of our good will......then call us ignorant and racist. Your credibility is lacking, your motives has been exposed and your intentions are as rotten as your wit. Your jealousy has consumed you whole and turned you into a quivering pile of shit.

Good riddance.

[Storm]

Same old redundant arguments from a typical gun loving yank. How can others be racist when they bear no prejudice or sterotype towards other nations and their people, unlike u who readily bags other nations and their people. U like to start threads that degrade and humiliate other nations and your posts always bear some sort of political message that is pro-U.S and derides other nations. U spill forth absolute crap time annd again. All u r sucessfully doing is justifying to the World y U.S citizens r disliked.

I congratulate u on a job well done.

[Storm]

Oh, one other thing, I sense your increasing aggravation perhaps it is time to u stopped watching aggresive shows like Jerry Springer and more Oprah Winfry. That may help make u more tolerant of others.

[Ronnie Raygun]

It's time to disect your silly ass argument.......

"Same old redundant arguments from a typical gun loving yank."

Guns have nothing to do with this debate and the phrase "same old redundant argement" is only used when you can think of nothing better to say...which is quite often.

"How can others be racist when they bear no prejudice or sterotype towards other nations and their people, unlike u who readily bags other nations and their people."

You obviously missed what I said earlier. I'll say it again......" When I first started posting here I never made negative comments about any other nation. After a short period of time I noticed a climate here that is very hostile towards english speaking nations. That's when I started combating them.".....Can you comprhend that?

"U like to start threads that degrade and humiliate other nations and your posts always bear some sort of political message that is pro-U.S and derides other nations."

I've done that once in response to Serveus. The fact that you haven't called him on it shows your bias against Americans......which I welcome.

"U spill forth absolute crap time annd again. All u r sucessfully doing is justifying to the World y U.S citizens r disliked.

I congratulate u on a job well done."

Every asshole on this planet has an opinion.

I congratulate you on a job well done.

"Oh, one other thing, I sense your increasing aggravation perhaps it is time to u stopped watching aggresive shows like Jerry Springer and more Oprah Winfry. That may help make u more tolerant of others."

Next time you try to be a smart ass, you should actually learn how to spell the names of the people you are talking about. It's Oprah WINFREY. That may help you argument hold water.

[Storm]

How sad when u have to start picking up on spelling errors, running low on things to write about? With u it is always about JEALOUSY or ENVY and then u will go on and talk about how the persons intentions r evil. Followed by propaganda about how much the U.S has done for the World and how the rest of the World should be on their knees giving thanks to the U.S. If u don't call that redundant, what else do u call it!!

So what u r saying is u have become racist as a result of being a member on this forum? You aren't just combating others, u instigate hatred through threads "Why Canada Sucks" and that other anti-Canadian thread u started r just prime examples. Even through your posts, they r designed to have a go at others in order to promote your own ego.

It is true every single arsehole is enititled to an opinion, and I certainly thank you for your opinion. U certainly have given us an informative look into the minds of a U.S citizen.

[Storm]

"I've done that once in response to Serveus."

So either u have a supid memory or u lie like hell, because u didn't just post the "Why Canada Sucks" thread, u also posted the thread "Hey Serevus, Canadians are embarrased by their own ignorance......"

Even in that thread u got your facts wrong, u then tried to make some lame arse excuse u got that info from this website. What a naive fool, believing everything he reads.....hahahaha. U couldn't even get your facts right regarding how many hate threads u started. Absolutely pathetic individual, and to think u have an interest in guns........scary to know incompotent fools have access to guns so freely in the U.S. That certainly is freedom I wouldn't want.

[Ronnie Raygun]

"So what u r saying is u have become racist as a result of being a member on this forum?"

You tell me how one can be considered racist due to hurling insults towards any specific nation? Your weak accusations cannot stick to me.

"You aren't just combating others, u instigate hatred through threads "Why Canada Sucks" and that other anti-Canadian thread u started r just prime examples. "

They are the only examples. I admitted to that. Still, how is it racist? I dare you to try to explain that.

"Even through your posts, they r designed to have a go at others in order to promote your own ego."

That's how you choose you precieve them with your limited and biased point of view.

"U certainly have given us an informative look into the minds of a U.S citizen."

Glad to be of help. Get used to it.

[Storm]

Originally posted by Ronnie Raygun
That's typical for a Aussie/Malasian 3rd world maggott.

Your racist mind is plain for us to see when statements like these spill forth from your hate filled ignorant mind!!

U still can't get things right, u admitted to one Thread "Why Canada Sucks", but u failed to mention the other thread u posted. It is only when it is bought to your attention that u now admit to it. Readers of those 2 threads will be able to see your racist mind, even tough u fail to admit to it. Still in the denial stage.........how cute.

[Ronnie Raygun]

Again you've failed to answer a simple question.....

You tell me how one can be considered racist due to hurling insults towards any specific nation?

[Storm]

Originally posted by Ronnie Raygun
That's typical for a Aussie/Malasian 3rd world maggott.

The above quote automatically reveals the prejudices and resentments that have been fermenting within your mind. Any casual observer would be able to make that connection, even if u r unable to.

[Storm]

I will spell it out to u since u r either too stupid or just don't have the moral courage to now stand by your racist, hate filled views.

1) You discriminate or prejudice based on race, this being evident in your "Why Canada Sucks" thread.

2) You believe that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. This is evident in the majority of your posts, whether it be calling others 3rd World Maggots or saying Canadian's r stupid and ignorant.

[Severus]

he lives in georgia storm. any more of a red-neck hick than that you can't get so it doesn't surprise me that he's a racist. i mean they just started integrating blacks into their highschool proms.

[Ronnie Raygun]

HAHAHA! You couldn't answer one simple qusetion and it destroyed your entire arguement!

I say it again......

You tell me how one can be considered racist due to hurling insults towards any specific nation?

You couldn't connect those dots therefore you lost.

[Severus]

if you close this thread one more time ronnie for no other reason than because you got your keester cleaned in this argument than i will report you to omar because you are abusing your priveledges.

are we clear ?

[Storm]

Thank your Sev for opening up this thread again, but could u also change the name back to U.S Suck.

[Severus]

better ?

[Storm]

Thanks Sev, just can't let Ronnie get away with crap like that.

[Ronnie Raygun]

From the beginning this thread was nothing but an attempt to bash the united states. I gave storm an opprotunity to back up his statements and prove why he though I was racist. His statements were clearly unfounded. He refused to give a credible response and chose to keep making statements that attacked my character. I have absolutley no problem with a fierce debate. I do have a problem with unfounded slander.

I will close this thread every time I see it open and I have e-mailed Omar about this situation.

[Red Devil]

This thread should not be closed. But I am thinking of moving it to "Away from soccer" forum. Fight there! I would like to have this forum clean.

Red Devil

[Ronnie Raygun]

How about here since Strom is from Austrailia.

[Red Devil]

God damn it, Ronnie! Not to Australian soccer! Move it to "Away from soccer" forum! I cannot do it now any more. Only you and Omar can do that. And stop fooling around!

Red Devil

[FANTA]

????????

[Storm]

quote:
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Originally posted by Ronnie Raygun
That's typical for a Aussie/Malasian 3rd world maggott.
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It was u Ronnie who stooped to such a lows as personal attacks eg the above quote, at 1st this thread was purely about the U.S football team at this World Cup. Since then u have chnaged it to politics and have been trying to manipulate the name of the thread, despite the fact that u yourself instigated a thread "why Canada Sucks". Worse of all u try and close the thread bc u can't take it.

The following is the definition of racism/racist.

rac·ism Pronunciation Key (rszm)
n.

1)The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

2)Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

I will once again merge the above definition with evidence u kindly provide from your postings on this forum to show u r in fact just racist trash.

1) You discriminate or prejudice based on race, this being evident in your "Why Canada Sucks" thread.

2) You believe that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. This is evident in the majority of your posts, whether it be calling others 3rd World Maggots or saying Canadian's r stupid and ignorant

[Storm]

Since u once again manipulate the name of this thread, u might as well change the name of the two offensive threads in relation to Canadians.

[Ronnie Raygun]

You still cannot answer my question.

Which race primarily domonites Canadian society?

What does disliking Canada have to do with race?

You are a liar. Your statements are unfounded. You lack the intelligence to carry on with this yet you will continue only to make false claims and to slander me.....an American.....which you hate.......which is what this thread was about in the first place.

[Severus]

re-opened after i got red devil and omar's OK.

and if i were you i'd watch myself around here mr. raygun because there's a lot of people that want you removed as moderator. if you don't believe me check my poll.

[Omar]

If, however, Storm continues calling RR a racist and so forth the thread will immediately be closed.

[Omar]

And keep it on topic, the topic being Storm's belief that the US National Soccer Team "sucks."

[valdanito]

the us played so well beacsaue of the massive ammount of money being offered! not to fight for the country! i hate us football and i honestly think it will never be one of the best!

[Storm]

Don't worry Omar it stays onthe topic of football, which was what I intended. I wouldn't call him racist unless he didn't provide the justification, but I can't be bothered going into it.

Let's turn this thread back into U.S NT and nothing else, as it was always intended to be.

[Ronnie Raygun]

"I wouldn't call him racist unless he didn't provide the justification," - Storm

And I won't call you an Aussie/malaysian 3rd world maggott unless you start to act like one.

Anyway, since Storm has already admitted he was wrong and everyone knows that the US team is good.....what else is there to say?

[valdanito]

cant u just retuirn to the us suck part! cause trhey do! their players dont havestyle and pasion! and for them to not suckl they need pasion

[Ronnie Raygun]

They lack passion?/?????

They beat Portugal......

They tied Korea which beat Italy and Spain.

They beat Mexico which beat Italy.

They played a great game against Germany only to lose in the final 8.

A team that sucks doesn't fair this well.

You people are all the same. You know the US is good but you hate us so much you don't want to admit it.

And Juan........that thread WAS about me and you know it.

[Storm]

Originally posted by Ronnie Raygun
"I wouldn't call him racist unless he didn't provide the justification," - Storm

And I won't call you an Aussie/malaysian 3rd world maggott unless you start to act like one.

Anyway, since Storm has already admitted he was wrong and everyone knows that the US team is good.....what else is there to say?

Please don't put words in my mouth, I never admitted I was wrong. I never considered the U.S team was good, I said they deserved praise for their performance against the Germans. U were the 1st person on this thread to resort to personal abuse. Regardless of whether ppl agree with u or not that was unnecessary.

[Ronnie Raygun]

First you said....

"Us Suck"

Then you said...

"I do feel this U.S side were quite good and my judgment was slightly harsh. They played with a fighting spirit and had a good work ethic."

Now you say...

"I never considered the U.S team was good"

YOU ARE A BLATANT LIAR!!

[Storm]

Quite good, but still in my mind they r not GOOD. The only time I was impressed with them was when they played against the Germans. I can't consider a team that loses to a second string Polish side good.

[Ronnie Raygun]

So now you've done a 3/60?

Keep talking in circles....

[Storm]

Originally posted by Storm
A few days ago I didn't see the U.S play Germany. I try to be a fair and reasonable person, the U.S did in fact play well. Like I mentioned b4 I appreciate certain styles of play and in that match the U.S showed a lot of spirit and fight.

It isn't a u-turn, I'm still not a fan of the U.S what so ever, whether it be politics or sports, but a good performance should be acknowledged.

If u read these posts too, u will get the picture that my reference that the U.S team were quite good was in relation to the match they played against the Germans.

Its heading in that direction again!! I can feel it, u previously tried to wrongly accuse me of doing a u-turn and that eventually led to your crap about me being anti-U.S. Eventually leading to u stooping to a personal level of abuse. I really can't be bothered with this crap. I state again, based on their performance against the Germans, the U.S were quite good. The fact of the matter is the U.S football team r still not a good team.

[Ronnie Raygun]

Sorry pal. You did a Uturn. You even admitted it when you said ........"Quite good". The fact is you said this........

First you said....

"Us Suck"

Then you said...

"I do feel this U.S side were quite good and my judgment was slightly harsh. They played with a fighting spirit and had a good work ethic."

Now you say...

"I never considered the U.S team was good"

These are your words. You ate them. Then vomited. Then ate them again. Then vomited. And now you're just sort of stiring around with your finger.

Eat your words.

[Storm]

They had a good performance against the Germans and that is it. I still would not consider them a good team if u were to evaluate them not based on that single performace.

U like to bully others and force your will. Even by reading your posts people r able to feel your hatred and contempt for someone who fails to comply with your wishes. U r free to think and act as u will, but learn to respect others and their opinions. I state again, in the U.S vs Germany match, the U.S would be considered quite good if it was based on that 1 performance. One Performance unfortunately doesn't elevate u to GOOD status!!!

U can take my words out of context all u will, it doesn't bother me. My reference to the U.S team being quite good was in reference to their Germany match, prior to that match I considered the U.S football team sucks. Seeing that your life hinges on this and it means soooo much to u that I say I made a u-turn, I might as well admit it then. I really do understand u r a poor fellow with no joy in your life other than getting your way in this forum by fair means or foul(evident when certain threads were manipulated and subsequently closed). So I should do my good deed for the day and make u happy. So here goes, specially and only 4 u Ronnie, I admit to making a u-turn!!!!

This might mean life and death for u but it sure as hell means nothing to me, I can't change your opinion and u can't change mine and this argument is getting rather redundant. So carry on as u will Ronnie because obviously is the be all and end all for u.