2002/2003 FC Barcelona Official Transfers and Transfer Rumours Thread

[BLAUGRANA]

With the homecoming of LVG :) , Barca have been linked with a number of players.

Seedorf. Supposedly LVG's first target. I like him. He's still young and has good experience, especially in Spain. He would cost a bit though and I think our midfield is a bit croweded as is.

Van Bommel. Also linked to Barca with the arrival of LVG. I like him a lot. I'd prefer him to Seedorf. Van Bommel is a real professional. He works his socks off. Could do straight cash deal or cash + Cocu. I like Cocu, but I'm not sure if we should keep him. I'd like to keep him personally, but being realistic...

Coloccini. I've never seen him play. I know he had a good season and is quite a hot property at the moment. However, I've read that his form dipped a bit towards the end of the season. He's young though and could be one for the future. Anyone know if he's got an Italian passport???

These are things I've read. I'll post who I'd like to see come in or stay at the club a bit later. What do you guys think??? Who do you want to see come in??? Who would you like to see go???

[Skualo]

what up dude...it seems your getting used to the site:thumbsup: ;) ....

speaking of rumors..its true van gaal wants seedorf and inter would be agree with that if barca give us Coco...for me its a real good swap...cus milan want seedorf too for coco but naahh then we would suffer seedorf missiles:D ....i preffer madrid suffer it:evil:

[alex_10]

i hope barca will sign seedorf,inter dont want him and he wil be easy sign!
he`ll be good for barca

[Skualo]

he will go only if coco cames to milan ;)

[BLAUGRANA]

Like I said, I'll be adding targets to the list on occasion. I have more, but I'm a bit lazy of late. So here's one for you all to digest. This one is not based on rumours though, just someone I'd like to see Barca move for.

Diego Tristan. Top scorer in La Liga. He has been at the top of the goalscoring charts for the past 2-3 seasons. He made the opta La Liga team of the season. His strike rate was nearly 25%. He reportedly has a buy-out clause of around 15 million pounds. If we lose Rivaldo, I'd go for him. I'd rather have RVN, but Man Utd won't let him go.

Opta team of the year:

http://www.opta.co.uk/optamizer/totw.asp?PID=2&CPID=23

It's largely based on stats.

[BLAUGRANA]

Oh yeah, and that buy-out clause for a striker of his quality is cheap. He's still pretty young too.

[BLAUGRANA]

Barca have been linked with both van Bommel and Hofland of PSV. I hope they get them both. It could just be PSV trying to drive up the price of the players.

[Skualo]

barca should aim for Tristan..the guy is damn good and is very effective...if real madrid buy him then they will win everything next year...just imagine figo-zidane-tristan-raul..:eek: ...:mad:

[alex_10]

tristan to real?thatwill be reall problem,but we`ll see

[BLAUGRANA]

Actually, Real could move for Crespo. That would be as bad if not worse. We shouldn't worry about them though, just concentrate on us. LVG has followed Barca and probably Spain. Maybe he'll go for Tristan. We'd have the top 2 strikers in La Liga from last season in terms of goals.

[BLAUGRANA]

I read an UNCONFIRMED rumour that Barca were after Schevchenko. I hope it's just rumour. Anyone after Schevchenko will be held for ransom by Milan. There are better striker for value strikers out there.

[Skualo]

i think barca should buy tristan..period:D ....crespo? nahh the guy isnt that good after all...and shevchenko? he is unreachable..milan wont sell him..is like inter with ronaldo...

[BLAUGRANA]

I don't like Crespo personally, but I think he is the real deal. Schevchenko was just a rumour I read. I don't like him either, especially for the price.

My choice for a striker would be either Tristan or Ruud Van Nistelroy. Tristan would be a better buy in terms of value for money, but I'd love to see RVN and Kluivert team up together.

[Skualo]

Originally posted by azulgrana
I don't like Crespo personally, but I think he is the real deal. Schevchenko was just a rumour I read. I don't like him either, especially for the price.

My choice for a striker would be either Tristan or Ruud Van Nistelroy. Tristan would be a better buy in terms of value for money, but I'd love to see RVN and Kluivert team up together.

i dont like him too...personally i think he is overrated...but he will sing with madrid cus valdano want him...sheva is damn good but yes he will be expensive..Van nistelroy?:rolleyes: ..i dont like him either...tristan is the rite choice;)

[ItalianBoy]

I agree on Crespo, he is good but not amazing. And he might move to real and Tristan might go to Roma.
If Lazio sells Crespo, they will get Di Vaio and Adriano prob.

[Roberto Abrego]

Coco is much better than Seedorf

[Skualo]

well is a little bit hard to compare them:rolleyes: ..theyre different kind of players...but i agree that coco is more consistent that seedorf and make his job everygame...thats way i will love to see him in inter...and on a swap for seedorf sounds good for me:D

[BLAUGRANA]

Coco has had more consistent runs in the sides he's played for than Seedorf over the past few years. Notice how when Seedorf got a consistent run of games this year he started to perform. Players don't just come off the bench and perform straight away.

[Olesen10]

I think Barca should go for either Tristan, Ruud van Nistelrooy or Ronaldo. About Ronaldo. I have read that Inter might swap him for Claude Makelele in Real. He's not all of his injury, but i think that he could get very big when he's recovered. I know you said that Real Madrid would be the best team in Spain with the attack of: Figo-Zidane-Raul-Tristan, but think of this: Figo-Zidane-Raul-Ronaldo...If he goes to RM, dark days are coming to Barca then! Buy Ronaldo before RM does it! Think of this: Saviola-Kluivert-Rivaldo-Ronaldo. It might push Xavi and Gabri out so Rivaldo could go down to the midfield, but what an attack!

[Skualo]

man ronaldo is staying..beliave me..;)

[PFC]

According to a reliable Serbian source, Barca are offering Rochemback, Christanval, Kluivert or Overmars (Lazio choose which player they want) for Crespo..

Barca are also offering Crespo a better deal.. They would be paying him 5 million Euros yearly till 2007, while Real are offering 4.5 million euros yearly..

[Olesen10]

I'm not saying that Ronaldo want's to leave, but Hector Cuper has said that he maybe want's to swap Ronaldo with Claude Makelele. Cuper has also said that his defence aren' t strong enough, and Claude Makelele is a defensive midfielder, so why not. But it's not said that RONALDO want's to leave...

[BLAUGRANA]

Ronaldo is going nowhere. He'll be with Inter next season.

I don't want Crespo. I think he's good, but like i've said before I just don't like him. I can't see LVG getting rid of Overmars, but the others could all be for sale. I HOPE AND PRAY he keeps Kluivert. I'd rather see Tristan than Crespo in a Barca shirt.

[BLAUGRANA]

LVG has publicly stated that he wants to bring Van Bommel to the Nou Camp. :D Good news! I hope he does. As i've said before, Van Bommel is a model professional who works very hard. LVG gave him his first cap for Holland. He'd be reasonably priced too, especially if Cocu is part of the deal as PSV want Cocu back.

[PFC]

Saviola-Crespo

The Argentine connection :cool:

[BLAUGRANA]

Yeah, Argentine connection would probably work out well. However, considering Crespo's price, I'd rather see Barca go for Ruud V. Nistelroy and see the dutch connection of he and Kluivert.

[BLAUGRANA]

I read on the Inter boards that an Italian paper reported a possible swap concerning this pair. I think this would be good for Barca as Seedorf is younger. I like Overmars, but he's about 30 and just had knee surgery again.

[PFC]

Van Gaal targets Van Bommel


Sunday 19th May 2002

Louis Van Gaal has revealed that he wants to make Mark Van Bommel one of his first signings after taking over for a second spell at Barcelona.

"He is one of the players on my list," the Dutch coach explained. "I know him well and he would be willing to come."

The PSV Eindhoven midfielder has been linked with a number of top European clubs but Van Gaal could jump the queue.

"We worked very well together during my time as the coach of Holland and it was me that gave him his debut," Van Gaal continued. "I am looking at all the positions in the team and he has the qualities that I want for the midfield and he is in the price range and therefore is a strong candidate."

Van Gaal also explained his choice to bring a virtual unknown to the Camp Nou as his right-hand man in Andries Jonker.

"There are probably very few people in football and especially in Barcelona that have heard of him," he explained.

"But he is a young coach and was instrumental in helping implement my plans when I was in Holland. He has coached a modest second division club in the Netherlands and was a trainer of some of the lower categories of the Holland team.

"I know him very well and am very pleased to offer him the position because he will make the perfect assistant."

The giant Dutchman then attempted to placate some of the local media and fans who accused him of being arrogant and cold during his first stint as coach

"I can speak the language better now and I know what it is like living here," he said. "I think that Spain and Catalunya are charming. The people, the culture are all superb, although I know how difficult it can be to work here.

"I don't know why things went wrong last time. Barcelona wanted to win titles and so did I. But now we have a great challenge ahead of us and we must try to win everything possible."

onefootball


Would be a wise transfer... I have seen quite a bit of PSV matches through FSW, and this guy is the real deal.. When he was out this season, PSV couldn't do a thing.

As for Hofland, well his stock dropped dramatically this season (same with Kezman of PSV).. He didn't really have a good season, and made some big mistakes at crucial times..

[BLAUGRANA]

I think Hofland is good though. Hopefully his poor performances just lowered his price. I doubt it though as PSV are tough negotiators and know they have talented players.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by PFC
According to a reliable Serbian source, Barca are offering Rochemback, Christanval, Kluivert or Overmars (Lazio choose which player they want) for Crespo..

Barca are also offering Crespo a better deal.. They would be paying him 5 million Euros yearly till 2007, while Real are offering 4.5 million euros yearly..


I prefer Kluivert than Crespo.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by §kualø
well is a little bit hard to compare them:rolleyes: ..theyre different kind of players...but i agree that coco is more consistent that seedorf and make his job everygame...thats way i will love to see him in inter...and on a swap for seedorf sounds good for me:D


Its good to have a AC Milan player on your team :D

[ItalianBoy]

If Barca offer all those players for Crespo its a deal! Man they are good players!

[BLAUGRANA]

The deal wasn't all of those players. It was one plus cash. I'd much rather see Kluivert stay than bring in Crespo. :boo: Like i've said before, just go out and get Tristan by paying his buyout clause.

[Skualo]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego



Its good to have a AC Milan player on your team :D

if he join inter he will be excluded of beeying part of milan-shit;)

[Skualo]

Originally posted by azulgrana
The deal wasn't all of those players. It was one plus cash. I'd much rather see Kluivert stay than bring in Crespo. :boo: Like i've said before, just go out and get Tristan by paying his buyout clause.

trsitan is way better than crespo for sure.....

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by §kualø


if he join inter he will be excluded of beeying part of milan-shit;)


and he will go to a bigger shit???I dont think so

[BLAUGRANA]

Puyol's contract is up in the summer of 2004 and he has just turned down Barca's latest offer for an extension. Hopefully Barca aren't to stingy and pay up. I'd be devastated if we lost him. :(

[Skualo]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego



and he will go to a bigger shit???I dont think so

exactly he is not returning to milan:silly:

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by §kualø


exactly he is not returning to milan:silly:



hahah he is already at Milan.

[BLAUGRANA]

Abelardo had a farewell press conference today. At that press conference, the club's director said that Kluiverts going nowhere as he is not for sale. :D He also said that Sergi and FDB looked likely to leave the club. :( I would like to see FDB stay for sure. I think he's great and if we landed Hofland, he could learn a lot from FDB. Also, Sergi (assuming he was willing) could be a good backup in the future. He's been a good servant to the club.

[Skualo]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego




hahah he is already at Milan.

no man he is at barcelona....until 31 of may he have the posibility of return to milan but nahhh as i said return to the shit? no way;)

[BLAUGRANA]

Puyol's agent and Barca are reportedly close to a contract extension with only minor details that need to worked out.

FDB may be willing to sign a one year contract, even though he wants a two year deal.

Silly rumour of the moment, Schevchenko-Rivaldo swap.

[alex_10]

i readed:barca want portillo,youngster from fukking R... M.....
he cant play there in first 16,so barca interested for him

[BLAUGRANA]

Yeah, supposedly it's the second bid that Barca have made for him. It seems that they're serious about him. If Real get Crespo or Shevchenko and don't sell Morientes, I could see them letting him go. I hope Barca land him as he sounds the real deal (no pun intended).

It looks like FDB is staying on for another season as he's been guaranteed a starting place in the squad.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by §kualø


no man he is at barcelona....until 31 of may he have the posibility of return to milan but nahhh as i said return to the shit? no way;)


but he is our player!

[Roberto Abrego]

Abelardo,should go I hate him so much,he is simply to bad!!!!

[BLAUGRANA]

Coco isn't our player, he was on loan. I'm glad to see Abelardo go as well. I'd love to see Barca break the bank and go for Rio Ferdinand. Otherwise, a more realistic target I'd like to see is Hofland.

[Skualo]

"but he is our player!"

nope...you will know that in june 1...

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Coco isn't our player, he was on loan. I'm glad to see Abelardo go as well. I'd love to see Barca break the bank and go for Rio Ferdinand. Otherwise, a more realistic target I'd like to see is Hofland.
I now he is not our player,u get mixed up,I am also a AC Milan fan and I was talking about Milan .

[BLAUGRANA]

An AC Milan fan??? That's gotta hurt! :D

Forza Inter!!!!

[BLAUGRANA]

Coco will officially not be at Barca next season. Supposedly the management staff feel that they have/can find more effective options for the left back position. Who that is I have no idea as now both Sergi and Coco are gone.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
An AC Milan fan??? That's gotta hurt! :D

Forza Inter!!!!

hahahah I havent meet yet a person that is fan of my 3 favorite teams.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Coco will officially not be at Barca next season. Supposedly the management staff feel that they have/can find more effective options for the left back position. Who that is I have no idea as now both Sergi and Coco are gone.
they r crazy!

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by §kualø
"but he is our player!"

nope...you will know that in june 1...


why????

[nismo]

i think skualo means june 1 will be the day where you know what's coco club is going to be roberto:D
and in that case, he's a nerazzuri
i've read that coco hates milan now and will never play for them again:eek:

[BLAUGRANA]

Barca look to be in for Benfica's German keeper Enke. He sounds like a very good keeper and he's young. He's available on a free, but the article said Barca would be paying for him?!?! :confused:
Anyway, he sounds good as I've said (i've read posts on websites in the past from Benfica fans who loved him-i was researching Simao's status at the time-WE NEED SIMAO BACK). It looks like LVG is really put his stamp on the side quickly.

[BLAUGRANA]

Arsenal are reportedly in talks with PSV for the pair. I hope LVG beats the Arse to them.

[Skualo]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego



why????

now you see why???? E´FATTA: COCO in NEROAZZURO

[BLAUGRANA]

Barca have signed Benfica's German keeper Enke on a free. He should provide competition to Bonano and Reina. He's 24 and is supposed to be quite good. A host of other clubs were after him including Bayern Munich and Espanyol to name but two. Nice move by Louis snapping him up. Can't really go wrong with a free transfer.

[Roberto Abrego]

were is Dutruel playing???

[Olesen10]

Some French and English clubs has been interested, but i still think he is in Barca.

[BLAUGRANA]

I think Dutruel will be gone (probably France) by the start of the season.

[BLAUGRANA]

Enke's free transfer from Benfica to Barca is official. Sounds like we've picked a gem on a free. Bayern were also after him and Man Utd wanted him last season.

[BLAUGRANA]

LVG has admitted to financial problems at Barca. That's why Sergi and Abelardo were let go. He kept FDB because he's left-footed. He says he will only buy players that will improve the current side due to the financial constraints. :( At least he's being a good businessman and doing what's right for the club. :D Maybe now we'll see some of the younger lads get a chance.

[BLAUGRANA]

One more thing. Enke said that financial issues were what held up his transfer to Barca. Good to hear I say. Don't let the club be held to ransom. I just hope they give Puyol whatever he wants.

[BLAUGRANA]

Mendieta's agent says Barca could get him if they want, but that no official offer has been made. He also said that do to the clause Valencia have over his transfer to Lazio, they get 10 million pounds if he comes back to Spain! That sounds steep. I think he'd be a good target, but at the right price. If Barca were to pay only 12-15 million pounds, I'd get him.
Lazio supremo Cragnotti says that Rivaldo is their target as a backup if Crespo leaves. He says they would have to talk to Rivaldo first and see if he'd want to come. Sounds to me like Rivaldo could be gone with the financial problems at Barca and Lazio's interest. His contract is up in a year and he is very highly paid, top 5 in the world and I think top 3.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
I think Dutruel will be gone (probably France) by the start of the season.


he sucks.

[Olesen10]

Mendita aren't that good i think. He's overrated! Of course he's a great leader and stuff, but we already have Xavi, Cocu and Enrique to control the midfield. But if Barca should buy, they should stick to max. 13 million pounds!
About the Rivaldo and Crespo situation, I'm still a fan of the Brazilian footballstyle, we all saw that against Turkey!:thumbsup:, and Crespo aren't that good if you compared him to Rivaldo! Okay, Rivaldo made a bit of a overreaction at the corner-kick, but we all have an acter inside us, Rivaldo's just isn't that good. :)

[BLAUGRANA]

I don't think Mendieta is overrated. I think he was brilliant with Valencia and for Spain in Euro 2000. I like the price you mentioned and that's the range I would like to see us pay for him. Problem is they paid 29 million pounds for him and Valencia will get a cut if he's sold back to a Spanish club. I don't think he can be had for less than 20 million pounds at the moment.

[BLAUGRANA]

I still want Rivaldo, but he needs to agree to a longer deal. I don't want Crespo as I've said many times. I'd like Tristan. Morientes wouldn't be bad either. I'd love RVN too.

[BLAUGRANA]

I've read from a pretty unreliable website that LVG wants Denilson and Joaquin. I think they'd be great for Barca. Overmars would have to go then to help fund the deal. The pair would be expensive though. About 40 million pounds for them both.

[BLAUGRANA]

Soccerage.com says that Barca could be in for Jardel at a very cut price deal, only 6 million pounds! I think this would be a decent buy. He's a bit on the older side, but he's done very well for Porto in the Portuguese league and more importantly in the CL. He has an amazing track record in the CL and even scores against the big teams. I think he'd be a good backup and a good addition as we'll need a good amount of players to challenge on all fronts.

[Olesen10]

It would be great to see Denilson in the Barca shirt! Just think: Denilson, Rivaldo, Kluivert, Saviola and Tristan:)...Go home Real Madrid!

[BLAUGRANA]

Don't forget about Joaquin! That would be absolutely smashing. I can't even fathom the reality of it.

[BLAUGRANA]

Barca's web site posted an official note stating that Gaspart and Cragnotti had dinner together. I'm sure Rivaldo, Crespo and Mendieta came up.

[BLAUGRANA]

One of LVG's primary targets is rumoured to be Placente of Argentina/Bayer Leverkusen. With Sergi and Coco now gone, it makes sense. Also, he has a European passport.

[Olesen10]

I just read that Barca want's to rent Gaizka Mendieta. They have to pay about 6 million pounds to Lazio and 8 million pounds to Valencia. If they want's to buy him permantly, they have to give 16 millon pounds.

[Always Laziali]

Just do it Barca,i would be very happy if that happens.But i would even want lesser than 16m let's say around 15m.

[BLAUGRANA]

Olesen buddy, your post was a bit unclear. You said RENT Mendieta??? I'm assuming you mean bring him in on a loan deal. Then, the only cost would/should be his salary if he's coming on loan. Also, the numbers you gave add up to 14 million and not 16 million. Either price, I think he's worth it so long as it's a permanent deal!

[Olesen10]

Point taken! With the 6 and 8 million pounds, i mean that Barca needs to pay Lazio 6 million pounds for the loan deal, and 8 million pounds to Valencia as compensation.
I they want's to buy him when the loan deal is over, they have to give Lazio 16 million pounds more.
I assume you can't read danish (no offence) ha ha, but is written on a danish website.

If you want to check it out... http://www.onside.dk/main/index.phtml?ac_start2=1&id=32229


PS. I just read that Rivaldo want's to stay at Barca! :D
http://www.onefootball.com/index.phtml?page=fullstory&newsid=115300&

[Olesen10]

Let's just hope Rivaldo keeps up the good work with Barca, as he does with Brazil! (2 goals in 2 matches)
Give us back RONALDO!!

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by Olesen10
Let's just hope Rivaldo keeps up the good work with Barca, as he does with Brazil! (2 goals in 2 matches)
Give us back RONALDO!!
He is not good at Brazil he cheats at Brazil.

he is only good for us.

[BLAUGRANA]

I don't think he is a cheat for that one. He was unsportsmanlike yes, but cheat is a bit harsh. He just helped to bring the foul to the attention of the referee. Either way, it doesn't matter as it was a foul and the Turkish player SHOULD HAVE been booked for it as he rightly was. Also, the linesman lifted his flag when the ball was kicked at Rivaldo, so the acting is irrelevant.

I think we need to get Rivaldo to sign an extension still, otherwise try and SELL HIM. I want him to stay, but I don't want to lose him for nothing at the end of next season.

[BLAUGRANA]

Forget about that Mendieta deal Olesen. I say we get him on a regular loan (one where we only pay him his wages), or buy him outright for less than 20 million pounds. Hey, if Lazio don't like that, let them continue to pay him to sit on the bench. We're in the driver's seat in terms of this negotiation and I hope Gaspart realizes that as he is a bit loose with the purse strings.

[BLAUGRANA]

Here's what I would like to see happen for Barca in the transfer market. Some of it is believable, much of it not. A lot of these moves have been rumoured though. Just let me dream. :D

Sell Player Fee (in pounds)
-----------------------------------------------
Christanval 7 million
Sergi Free
Abelardo Free
Reiziger 4-6 million
Geovanni 14 million
Rivaldo 15-20 million
Rochembach 9 million
Dutruel 1-2 million
Bonano 2-3 million
Andersson 4 million
Cocu 6-8 million
Overmars 15 million
That would be about 84 million we'd bring in.

Buy Player Fee (in pounds)
------------------------------------------------
Tristan 15 million (if buyout clause rumours are true)
Joaquin 15-20 million
Denilson 15-20 million
Hofland 10-12 million
van Bommel 12-15 million
Enke Free
Carini Loan (Free)
Rio Ferdinand 20-25 million
That would cost about 100 million we'd spend.

Net spending would be about 16 million with those figues. Not that bad. We still would have to find a left back, right back and center back I think. Not as starters necessarily, but as backup. I know this would leave us a beat incomplete, but I'm still considering who else I would like to see come in. Here is a probable lineup:

--------------------Tristan-----------------Saviola-----------------------------

----------------------------------Kluivert----------------------------------------


-Denilson----------Xavi-------------van Bommel-------Joaquin


-------------De Boer------------Rio Ferdinand----------------Puyol---------


-----------------------------------Carini-----------------------------------------




My dream lineup for next season would be as follows. This of course would require Barca being quite rich$$$! :D Backup players are in brackets.

------------------Van Nistelroy-------------------Kluivert-----
--------------(Tristan)-------------------------(Saviola)--------


--------------------------------Rivaldo----------------------------
--------------------------------(Luis Enrique)---------------------
--------------------------------(De la Pena)-----------------------


Vicente---------Mendieta---------------Beckham--------Joaquin
(Overmars)---(van Bommel)----------(Xavi)------------(Simao)
(v d Vaart)----(Gerard)-----------------(Arteta)---------(Gabri)
(Nano)---------(Cocu)-------------------(Iniesta)--------(Babangida)


-------------Chivu------------Rio Ferdinand-------------Puyol----
------------(Sergi)-------------(Hofland)------------------(????)--------- ---------(Aurellio)----------(De Boer)-----------(????)


--------------------------------Canizares---------------------------
--------------------------------(Reina)-------------------------------
--------------------------------(Carini)-------------------------------


It's still a bit incomplete, but that would be my Barca dream team for next season. I love players like Totti and Nesta, but they are reserved for my Inter dream team. :D
If someone emailed this to Joan Gaspart and said this is what LVG wants, he'd have a heart attack!!! :D

[Olesen10]

Dream on!
Mine would be like this:


---------------------------------Kluivert---------------------------
----------------------Tristan--------------Saviola----------------


---------------------------------Rivaldo----------------------------

--------Denilson---------------------------------------Beckham-

-----------------------------------Xavi------------------------------


--------De Boer--------------Rio Ferdinand----------- Puyol-


-----------------------------------Buffon--------------------------


I know about Rivaldo, but i think if he plays on the midfield he could control Barca's play, and find Tristan and Saviola in the goal box...

[BLAUGRANA]

Not bad Lasse. I think you're midfield leaves the defense a bit exposed though. That's why I have Mendieta and van Bommel listed.
Buffon would be amazing, but he'd be in my Inter dream team. Well, no he wouldn't because Toldo would be starting. While mine's a dream team, it's not as crazy as it could be. Close though I admit.

[Olesen10]

The first team you wrote could actually be...:star:
But i think Tristan and Ferdinand maybe hard to get, but besides that, it could be.
I guess my soccerknowledge isn't intact, because I don't know who Joaquin is...He's probably quite good...:question:

Oh man, I forgot Ronaldo...!? Maybe instead of Tristan or Kluivert...? I know he isn't going to leave Inter, but it's a dream team allright!

[BLAUGRANA]

Joaquin is a right wing who plays for Real Betis. He's about 18-20. He's considered the next Figo. I've never seen him play, but he had a solid season. Even statiscally he was good.

[Olesen10]

Sounds good! If Barca could get a grab on him and Denilson...:D, what a team !! Rivaldo, Saviola, Denilson, Joaquin and Kluivert!

[BLAUGRANA]

It would be a supercharged offense for sure. Joaquin and Denilson would mean we have the best wingers in La Liga.

[Olesen10]

But still, it's a unrealistic dream...Where does Denilson even play now?

[BLAUGRANA]

Denilson is at Betis along with Joaquin. Not unrealistic for them as Overmars would be sold to fund the deal. It's been rumoured already.

[Olesen10]

Maybe a swap between Betis and Barca would do it?

[BLAUGRANA]

Nah, I don't think they want anyone we have that we'd be willing to part with. We'd have to buy them both and sell Overmars and perhaps a few others to fund it.

LVG doesn't have as much money as usual from what I've read. He's been smart thus far and I think he'll continue to make the best moves for the club.

[Azerkid]

Van Bommel would be a good aquirment for Barca and will adapt quickly with help of his Dutch teammates.

[Azerkid]

But the best get would be if Diego Tristan hes a terrific scorer, great vision, strong in the air and more, he'll make Pats job much easier with more support.

[BLAUGRANA]

I've brought up van Bommel numerous times.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by azulgrana
I've brought up van Bommel numerous times.

I know that, what i meant was if he would be aquired he would adapt fast

[BLAUGRANA]

We'll start with the worst of it. Valencia's president has said that Barca could be in for Kily Gonzalez. THIS FOR ME IS TERRIBLE NEWS!!! I HATE KILY! :( :annoyed: :mad: :mad2: Why on earth are we in for him??? I think he's very overrated. That's not to mention that Vicente keeps him out of the starting XI for Valencia pretty often. I'd much rather have Vicente. I'd rather we kept Overmars than go in for Kily. He's not old, but he's not young either. He'll also cost WAY TOO MUCH!!! While I don't think he'd cost this much, his buyout clause is 30 million pounds (about $45 million)!!! I'd rather we kept Overmars or went in for Vicente, Denilson or D' Allessandro. Hopefully this is just Valencia's attempt to drive up the price for Inter.

Now for the somewhat bad news. The Mendieta rumour is catching on. While i've stated before that I do want to see us bring in Mendigol, I want him for the right price. This weird loan deal and option to buy next season is not right. You shouldn't have to pay for a player to get him on loan. You should only have to pay his salary. The #'s i've seen in terms of the kind of money it would take to bring Mendieta to the Nou Camp permanently are astronomical. They are more than what Lazio paid for him!!! That's just crazy in my opinion. Unfortunately, I think Barca have poor negotiators in the past in the transfer market and it doesn't look like they are getting any better.

[BLAUGRANA]

I've read in couple of places that LVG and Barca are still holding up a move for van Bommel to Arsenal. With Arsenal keeping Viera, I think we can get van Bommel. Let's hope so! :D

[Azerkid]

i hope so, also if we could get Denilson then that would be great too, Denilson can play the wings,and help Overmars when he struggles like against Real in Cl, and then Van Bommel would control the mid and sometimes step for freekicks like the terrific one against England :D

[Olesen10]

Overmars is a much better player than Kily Gonzalez, that's for sure! Why spendt money on Mendieta, when we could get van Bommel and Denilson for almost the same price as Mendieta?

[BLAUGRANA]

Good point Lasse!

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Olesen10
Overmars is a much better player than Kily Gonzalez, that's for sure! Why spendt money on Mendieta, when we could get van Bommel and Denilson for almost the same price as Mendieta?

good idea :thumbsup:

[BLAUGRANA]

Well, the silly season is definately in full swing. Some good news and bad news. A website I normally check up on every day had to Barca transfer rumours. The first was about a potential striker swap deal, Kluivert for Salas. Supposedly LVG would partner Salas with Crespo. The article also said Juve were concerned with Salas' fitness and that was why they were looking to sell him. Hello, like Barca wouldn't be worried about his fitness! Anyway, that alone make's the article look unbelievable.

The next article (on the same website no less) came up later and said that sources close to Barca say that they won't be going in for Crespo. For me, that's great news. I think he's overpriced. Also, this would seem to refute the first article regarding Salas. So for me it's all good news. And remember, LVG said that both Kluivert and Rivaldo are part of his plans. So, unless they want to leave, they'll both be staying. :D

One more thing. That second article said that Barca not going in for Crespo could hurt any deal for Mendieta. With the prices associated with a Mendieta deal, that's more good news.

[Azerkid]

One would have to be out of his mind to even bother and think about a Kluivert-Salas swap! Klu is 100x better. what's the sites name you go on to check tranfers?

[Olesen10]

I must agree with Azerkid. That sounds wierd. Salas is to old! Why exchange a succesfull young player with an old striker. It doesn't make any sense! I'd still go for Tristan and Denilson, maybe also Joaquin after what azulgrana has told me...And the Van Bommel deal is almost settled i suppose?
Too bad Barca didn't went all the way for Jon Dahl Tomasson, I'd think he would make the perfect couple along with Kluivert!

[BLAUGRANA]

Hey guys, I'm just passing on the rumours and not telling you what I'd want. I hope LVG doesn't do most of these deals. About the Salas rumour though, I've seen it around a few more sites now. I think it's just a case of rumour passing though.

The sites I visit every day are:

soccernet.com
soccerage.com
opta.co.uk
channel4.com
tribalfootball.com
footballtransfers.net
onefootball.com
fcbarcelona.com
wldcup.com
teamtalk.com

My favourites are soccernet.com (by far my favourite, I regularly go on that message board as well), opta.co.uk (great for statiscal information) and footballtransfers.net (the speculation section is fun, the site is devoted wholly to transfers, squad lists, contracts).

Of the rest, onefootball is pretty good. Some good commentaries (like the one i posted here about LVG). Soccerage is pretty good too, especially for up to the minute news. It has horrible match analyses though if you ask me. Tribalfootball has some of the craziest rumours i've ever seen. Channel4.com is for Italian soccer. fcbarcelona.com is kinda cool, club's official website. It will be revamped in September. wldcup.com and teamtalk.com aren't too great.

What sites do you guys visit???

[BLAUGRANA]

I was against the JD Tomasson move. I think he's alright, but he still has to prove himself on the big stage. I don't think the WC is always a good indicator about how good a player is either. Look at Karel Poborsky and Man Utd after Euro 96.

[BLAUGRANA]

Who do you like from the Danish Natl. team. I assuming you've been watching them closely. I think the players I would want most from that team are Rommedahl and Sorensen. Lovekrands looks good for Rangers too. He really can fly!!!

[BLAUGRANA]

Even more bad news.

Barca have been linked with Placente again. I've not been too impressed with his performances for Argentina though. That said, I don't think the WC is necessarily the best indicator of a players true talent/potential. However, he would cost a lot from what I've read and he already has a good salary at Bayer.

Miroslav Klose. I don't know what to say about him. I think he is definately the real deal. He performed for zee Germans long before the WC and has an amazing international goalscoring record. That said, he wouldn't be my first choice. Who knows though, if he can be had cheaply enough...

Newcastle are intersested in Rivaldo for 10 million pounds. I think their interest is legit, but I don't think Rivaldo would make that move.

I read that Barca offered 8.8 million pounds and Javier Garcia. Valencia want 19 million pounds though and this wouldn't meet their valuation.

[Azerkid]

I visit:

onefootball.com
soccerbase.com
uefa.com
azerifootball.com
fifa.com
affa-az.com (Azerifootball Federation) Very Corrupt :D

[Azerkid]

For Denmark i like Helveg, Tofting, Gronkjaer, Sand, and Tommason. Denmark isnt the most flashing or talented team but they know how to win and they do have many underrated players.

[Azerkid]

from that team Barca can pickup Sand or Tommason and since we need a kepper then i would pick Sorensen. Oh, yeah are we making any moves for some keepers?

[BLAUGRANA]

Aren't you reading all of my posts??? We already have. We picked up a young German keeper Enke from Benfica on a FREE :D transfer. Bayern were after him too. He's supposed to be good. I know a lot of Benfica fans really liked him.

Also, there was that rumour of Carini coming to Barca on loan from Juve. I don't think it's official, but some sights already have him in there squad lists for Barca.

[BLAUGRANA]

I also go to Uefa.com a lot. Forgot that one even though I had been on it just before I posted here. Anyway, they have a great World Cup show every day. You can access it from the Uefa.com homepage. It gives analysis/commentary on each day's action along with match reports and news. I like the commentary, especially that from Gabriele Marcotti. I listen to it while i'm doing things around the apartment. Check it out.

I also play the Uefa.com Fantasy games. I've played the Champions League Fantasy game the past three years. It's really fun. I usually do quite well, top 3 %. This year I did the Uefa Cup fantasy league as well and the U 21 European Championships fantasy league. The Euro 2000 one was fun too. The best part about it, it's FREE.

Speaking of Fantasy Leagues, I'm in one with some of the boys from the Soccernet message boards as well as a few of the Inter boys from the WSB here. It's already started and you'd be behind, but you guys are more than welcome to join. Just go to the WSB's Inter board here and read the Important Announcement thread. Make sure you follow the instructions I've layed out (i'm the league moderator). Furthermore, you guys should check out the soccernet.com message boards. I'm on there every day too.

[Azerkid]

I dont have time to read all the one million posts you have :D but i hope the Benfica keeper is better than Bonano.

[BLAUGRANA]

I didn't think Bonano was that bad.

[Azerkid]

He played bad in CL against Real

[Olesen10]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Who do you like from the Danish Natl. team. I assuming you've been watching them closely. I think the players I would want most from that team are Rommedahl and Sorensen. Lovekrands looks good for Rangers too. He really can fly!!!

Yeah, I do watch Denmark closely these days...But i don't think Dennis Rommedahl has improved that lot! Okay, he scored a goal against France, but the rest of that game, and they two others against Hungary and Senegal, I couldn't see him at all. The truth is (that's the rumors here in Denmark), that Rommadahl is the danish coach, Morten Olsens, favorite. Rommedahl has been in the startupline in all the games that Morten Olsen and Michael Laudrup have been coach for Denmark. I also like Martin Jorgensen. He's like M. Laudrup Jr. Gronkjaer has also improved a lot, was spared in the game against France and came in, but in the other games he played very well! I'm also very happy for Thomas Sorensen these days! He saved Denmark many times against France!
Jan Heintze, the leftback, are impressing. He is 38 years old!
And of course, "Jonaldo" :)

[Olesen10]

I just read that Barca are going after Marcio Amoroso. Hopefully it's just a rumor!

[BLAUGRANA]

Let's hope it is just a rumour, yes.

I think Rommedahl did well in the first half of the France game, and I don't just mean the goal. I think they had trouble containing him.

[Roberto Abrego]

yes is true.

[Azerkid]

Danes have great wingers that can cause problems to many teams

[Roberto Abrego]

Damn Martin Jorgensen is a great player!,I dont now how could he be on the bench at the NT?

[Olesen10]

Well, Jesper Gronkjaer has taken his place, and you can't blame Morten Olsen for making that decision...Gronkjaer made the assist to Tommasson's first goal against Senegal and tho goal against France...

[Olesen10]

The official danish FCB website fcbarcelona.dk, has onounced that Barca has made a loan deal with Lazio about Mendieta for 1 year.
And Pepe Reina goes to Villareal, too bad i think! And about the Mendieta deal, he's okay, but he isn't in the startupline at the Spanish national team. And I think that Barca only should have players who are in the startupline for their national team. Go for Tristan in stead! (Okay, he also aren't in the sartupline, but he's injured right now)

[Azerkid]

Well, at least we won spend millions for Mendieta but just a loan. But nobody knows maybe he'll have an outbeak season with us.

[Olesen10]

This swap deal with Rivaldo and Mendieta seems to be a posibility...I just read that it might happen...Lazio's president says that a swap-deal with Mendieta and Rivaldo can be arranged...:boo:
Just make the damn loan deal, if you want Mendieta so bad...!!:fed-up:

[BLAUGRANA]

It's all down to cold hard cash guys. The Rivaldo swap rumour revolves around the fact Barca have little money to throw around the transfer market this season (because they wasted so much last season is my guess). It also has to do with Rivaldo being out of contract in 12 months and the club potentially losing him on a free. Gaspart announced yesterday that the fans shouldn't expect too many signings this season. Let's hope LVG makes the right decisions.

[BLAUGRANA]

England (my favs for the WC) knocked out your Denmark Lasse. I didn't think they'd win by such a scoreline, but I'll take it. Denmark did very well though in the tournament and should leave with their heads held high (whilst the players could also find their pockets stuffed full of money with all the transfer rumours surrounding them).

[BLAUGRANA]

Pepe Reina being sold to Villareal. Not done yet, let's hope it stays that way.

Dutruel to Rennes. Clubs are in agreement, now up to the player.

Mendieta to Barca keeps coming up and won't go away. The latest I heard was Rivaldo (and possibly a little cash) for Mendi. I also heard that this is pending on Valencia agreeing to NOT take the payout they are supposed to get if he returns to La Liga. Supposedly Lazio have first refusal on Rivaldo and are trying to tempt him away with a deal. However, this first refusal ends July 10.

Puyol to Juve. Just resurfaced this one. It's unconfirmed though and IMO it's just pure speculation. I don't know what I'd do if this happened. We really need to time him down to a long term deal and pay him what he's worth. He's been great this WC, a real lion out there!!!

Alfonso to Betis as part of JOAQUIN deal. I think this is just more speculation and silly talk, but I'd love to see Joaquin with us next season.

Gerard-Farinos swap. More speculation, but I guess Cuper wants Gerard at Inter. I don't want to see him leave, but he's always injured. I would just take the cash for him. He's valued at 10 million pounds. Farinos isn't needed.

[BLAUGRANA]

Let's keep them on here guys. No need to have three different threads going.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Let's keep them on here guys. No need to have three different threads going.

Good enough i agree :thumbsup:

[Azerkid]

We are also linked with Fabricio Colocclini and Mateja Kezman.

[BLAUGRANA]

Where'd you get that info from Azer??? I thought Colo was almost certainly going to Atletico at this point. I thought that was an old rumour. I've heard nothing of Metaja.

[BLAUGRANA]

His agent says he'd prefer to stay in Spain and that a move to Barca could be back on. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

[BLAUGRANA]

The only Depor players I would want are Tristan and Capdevilla (who'd be popular at Barca because he's Catalan). In fact, we really need a left back and should really go for him. He doesn't start at Depor anyway. Tristan is just fantasy though. Funny thing, in the world of football transfers fantasy often just comes true.

Other La Liga players I'd be in for are Helguera (not happy as a sub at Real), Joaquin and Vicente.

[BLAUGRANA]

Oh yeah, I forgot about Morientes. When he's healthy he's great.

[BLAUGRANA]

http://www.opta.co.uk/article.asp?id=97016&clid=&cpid=23&title=All+roads+lead+to+Madrid+for+Roman

[BLAUGRANA]

Barca have been linked with US/Ajax player John O' Brien. He could be a left back and LVG knows about him from his days at Ajax. I think it's just a rumour, but Barca do need a left back.

[Azerkid]

John O'brien? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D:D:D :silly: :silly: :silly:
This is the funniest transfer rumour i ever heard.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Where'd you get that info from Azer??? I thought Colo was almost certainly going to Atletico at this point. I thought that was an old rumour. I've heard nothing of Metaja.

I heard the Colo rumour from footballtransfer.com and Mateja from skysportnews.

[BLAUGRANA]

Hey, Johnny O' Brien has done well for Ajax and the US.

About that first site, can you give me the exact url please.

[Azerkid]

O'brien doesnt belong in Barca, hes not good enough and he'll just be taking up roster space.

[Azerkid]

I cant find the exact url for that site because when i type it in it wont ===ing pop up it tell me that the site is doing some change when i just visited 1h ago. You try getting thru on your PC it might work.

[BLAUGRANA]

Tried, it didn't work. I think I need the exact url.

[Olesen10]

Hey guys! Its been a while, and you just keep posting! (good thing though!)
I've been checking out the WC a lot...:( seems like it's the little nations WC...But not Denmark's :depressed
Man I hope Brazil really kicks England's ....ing butt!
You're right azulgrana, Morientes is really great when he's not injured...I like Raul better though...Damn! What am I saying. This is the FCB board, not the Real Madrid board. Oh what the hell. I don't think RM will ever let go of Raul...Perhaps Morientes, but not Raul.
Well O' Brien has played okay at the WC, but in Barca? I don't thin so. I'll have to agree with Azerkid...
We have talked a lot of Tristan. I don't think he's going to a new club! If he is, it will probably not be in Spain...But let's all hope he decides to move to Barca!
I can't really figure out the Mendieta thing...Is it a swap deal or a loan deal? Or is it just a rumor?

[BLAUGRANA]

I wasn't saying we should go for O' Brien, I was just talking bout the rumour and sticking up for him. He is a good little player if you've ever seen him. I would go for Capdevilla for our left back spot for next season.

[BLAUGRANA]

Frank de Boer resigns for another season. A great move by Barca IMO.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Frank de Boer resigns for another season. A great move by Barca IMO.

yeah, a great move

[BLAUGRANA]

UNFORTUNATELY, Pepe Reina has been transferred to Villareal.

FORTUNATELY, we have an option to buy him back in the next two years. Also, he says he still loves Barca and hopes to return someday soon. Let's hope so too. :D

[BLAUGRANA]

Here are what I consider realistic transfer thoughts for Barca for the coming season. They are the transfers I would go for. I will take into account the deals that have already happened. All #'s are in British pounds.

Guesstimated budget before any transfers: 30 million

Sell:
Dutruel 1 million/Free
Geovanni 14 million
Rochembach 8 million
Dani 4-6 million
Alfonso 4 million
Christanval 10 million
Andersson 4 million

This would bring the budget up to approximately 76 million. We'll take that down to 70 million seeing as how they practically give players away.

Buy:
Helguera 15 million
Joaquin 20 million
Mendieta 20 million
Hofland 11 million
Capdevilla 4-6 million

This would take up the whole budget. It would address our problem spots based on what I think and/or what LVG thinks. LVG says we need a right sided midfielder, a left sided midfielder and a left back. Joaquin would take care of the right, Overmars would keep his spot on the left with Motta as cover. Hofland and Helguera would be Christanval and Andersson replacements. Capdevilla could be the solution to left back. Mendieta could partner Xavi in the center of midfield. Based on this my starting XI would look like this:

---------------------Kluivert-------------------Saviola--------------------

---------------------------------Rivaldo------------------------------------


Overmars-------Xavi----------------Mendieta-----------------Joaquin


--------Capdevilla---------------Helguera---------------Puyol---------


----------------------------------Enke--------------------------------------



Also, say we offload Gerard too and bring back Simao instead of Joaquin. This would change things as such. You would have 20 million more based on this. 10 million from the sale of Gerard and a further 10 million as Simao would only cost 10 million and that would save 10 million from Joaquin.


Simao 10
-
Joaquin 20
-
Gerard 10
=
-20 million credited back to the budget. Take that 20 million +10 million more and you can buy:

Rio Ferdinand

That would tie up the defense for som 7-10 years. In my opinion, the defense is our #1 priority. So, my lineup would be the same, just sub Rio in for Helguera would could come off the bench, replace Xavi or Capdevilla.

I think these are realistic prices for all the players and based on transfer rumours (persistent ones at that), they are all possible. I also looked at Barca players who have not and probably will not have any input/impact/opportunities with the team anymore.

[Roberto Abrego]

We shouldnt sell Patrik Andersson


It will be hard to sell Geovanni for 14m.

[Azerkid]

I think we should sell Anderson because he's bee haunted by injuries an wasnt productive this season.

[Azerkid]

Hofland would be a good replacement for Andersson

[BLAUGRANA]

Unfortunately, we can't afford him. How we can afford Mendieta though is a surprise.

[BLAUGRANA]

I come though with a bit more realistic transfer idea. I'd say we have about 30-35 milliion to spend. Joaquin for 20 mil and Helguera for 15 mil.

[Olesen10]

Too bad with Reina - he was a good man and stayed at Barca for a long time.
Frank de Boer is okay too!
I don't think Real Madrid would let go of Helguera though

[Azerkid]

I dont think we need Helguera and can get a better player plus he's not worth 15m, and also Real wont let him go.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by Azerkid37
Hofland would be a good replacement for Andersson


I dont think so Andersson is better and he will be fully fit before the season's kick-off

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Here are what I consider realistic transfer thoughts for Barca for the coming season. They are the transfers I would go for. I will take into account the deals that have already happened. All #'s are in British pounds.

Guesstimated budget before any transfers: 30 million

Sell:
Dutruel 1 million/Free
Geovanni 14 million
Rochembach 8 million
Dani 4-6 million
Alfonso 4 million
Christanval 10 million
Andersson 4 million

This would bring the budget up to approximately 76 million. We'll take that down to 70 million seeing as how they practically give players away.

Buy:
Helguera 15 million
Joaquin 20 million
Mendieta 20 million
Hofland 11 million
Capdevilla 4-6 million

This would take up the whole budget. It would address our problem spots based on what I think and/or what LVG thinks. LVG says we need a right sided midfielder, a left sided midfielder and a left back. Joaquin would take care of the right, Overmars would keep his spot on the left with Motta as cover. Hofland and Helguera would be Christanval and Andersson replacements. Capdevilla could be the solution to left back. Mendieta could partner Xavi in the center of midfield. Based on this my starting XI would look like this:

---------------------Kluivert-------------------Saviola--------------------

---------------------------------Rivaldo------------------------------------


Overmars-------Xavi----------------Mendieta-----------------Joaquin


--------Capdevilla---------------Helguera---------------Puyol---------


----------------------------------Enke--------------------------------------



Also, say we offload Gerard too and bring back Simao instead of Joaquin. This would change things as such. You would have 20 million more based on this. 10 million from the sale of Gerard and a further 10 million as Simao would only cost 10 million and that would save 10 million from Joaquin.


Simao 10
-
Joaquin 20
-
Gerard 10
=
-20 million credited back to the budget. Take that 20 million +10 million more and you can buy:

Rio Ferdinand

That would tie up the defense for som 7-10 years. In my opinion, the defense is our #1 priority. So, my lineup would be the same, just sub Rio in for Helguera would could come off the bench, replace Xavi or Capdevilla.

I think these are realistic prices for all the players and based on transfer rumours (persistent ones at that), they are all possible. I also looked at Barca players who have not and probably will not have any input/impact/opportunities with the team anymore.

I will prefer Joaquin instead of Simao,even thought Simao is great.

[Azerkid]

it would be wrong to keep Andersson when you could sell him for about f6m and and use that money and add a few more $ and get Hofland who is a solid D and only is 23, and on the other hand we cant afford to wait and pray :rolleyes: for And to be fit and plus he is soon gonna be 31 when we could get Hofland cheap who is 23.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Here are what I consider realistic transfer thoughts for Barca for the coming season. They are the transfers I would go for. I will take into account the deals that have already happened. All #'s are in British pounds.

Guesstimated budget before any transfers: 30 million

Sell:
Dutruel 1 million/Free
Geovanni 14 million
Rochembach 8 million
Dani 4-6 million
Alfonso 4 million
Christanval 10 million
Andersson 4 million

This would bring the budget up to approximately 76 million. We'll take that down to 70 million seeing as how they practically give players away.

Buy:
Helguera 15 million
Joaquin 20 million
Mendieta 20 million
Hofland 11 million
Capdevilla 4-6 million

This would take up the whole budget. It would address our problem spots based on what I think and/or what LVG thinks. LVG says we need a right sided midfielder, a left sided midfielder and a left back. Joaquin would take care of the right, Overmars would keep his spot on the left with Motta as cover. Hofland and Helguera would be Christanval and Andersson replacements. Capdevilla could be the solution to left back. Mendieta could partner Xavi in the center of midfield. Based on this my starting XI would look like this:

---------------------Kluivert-------------------Saviola--------------------

---------------------------------Rivaldo------------------------------------


Overmars-------Xavi----------------Mendieta-----------------Joaquin


--------Capdevilla---------------Helguera---------------Puyol---------


----------------------------------Enke--------------------------------------



Also, say we offload Gerard too and bring back Simao instead of Joaquin. This would change things as such. You would have 20 million more based on this. 10 million from the sale of Gerard and a further 10 million as Simao would only cost 10 million and that would save 10 million from Joaquin.


Simao 10
-
Joaquin 20
-
Gerard 10
=
-20 million credited back to the budget. Take that 20 million +10 million more and you can buy:

Rio Ferdinand

That would tie up the defense for som 7-10 years. In my opinion, the defense is our #1 priority. So, my lineup would be the same, just sub Rio in for Helguera would could come off the bench, replace Xavi or Capdevilla.

I think these are realistic prices for all the players and based on transfer rumours (persistent ones at that), they are all possible. I also looked at Barca players who have not and probably will not have any input/impact/opportunities with the team anymore.


If we acqured everybody mentioned at the top then the shoul be our XI.

4-5-1


Kluivert

Rivaldo (Saviola)


Overmars Saviola (Rivaldo) Mendieta Joaquin
(Xavi)-sub

Ferdinand De boer Hofland Puyol
(if doubtfully acquired)
if not then Helguera or
Reizeger.
Enke

[Azerkid]

Correction: Xavi should sub Mendieta not Overmarsi couldnt get it setup right.

[BLAUGRANA]

I think Helguera can be had. He's not too happy at not being a regular for Real and I really think they'd be willing to part with. I think he's worth every bit of 15 million pounds. He's not too old, can play in midfield or the heart of the defense, is very good both offensively and defensively and has ton of experience. He's scored some very important CL goals for Real over the past 3 seasons too. He's definately worth it.

I'd prefer Joaquin over Simao, but Simao would be more of a bargain. I don't think Joaquin is necessarily 10 million pounds better than Simao. Also, Barca aren't necessarily watering the money tree of late.

I think Andersson has done well for Barca. My problem with him is that he is older and we'll need to replace him in a season or two anyway. I say sell him now while we can get the cash and invest in a younger player.

No one's mentioned Rio Ferdinand? Wouldn't you guys love to see him at Barca? Like I said, he'd tie up the defense for years to come.

[BLAUGRANA]

Good news!!! Barca look to have ruled out a move for Kily. His fee is rumoured to be 16 million pounds or more which Barca don't like. Also, his wage demands are to high for the club. HE'S A MERCENARY!

Now it's time for Barca and LVG to use that money for a more sensible target, JOAQUIN!

[BLAUGRANA]

Let's not forget that Barca have a good looking crop of youngsters one the way up. Look for cash strapped LVG to give the likes of Iniesta, Nano, Babangida, Alves, Cuadrado and Fernando Navarro a chance.

[Olesen10]

Yes, i would like to see Rio Ferdinand in the Barca-shirt! But i don't think it's realistic...I think he likes english soccer, and spanish soccer is probably not his style.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Olesen10
Yes, i would like to see Rio Ferdinand in the Barca-shirt! But i don't think it's realistic...I think he likes english soccer, and spanish soccer is probably not his style.

I agree with Lasse, i would love to see Rio in Nou Camp but i dont think its realistic and for that moneywe could get more players who are also talented. Also Rio is used to playing in EPL and La Liga isnt his style, and by the way Man U are after him becasue the als need a D and since Rio like EPL he'll probably in up there.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by azulgrana
I think Helguera can be had. He's not too happy at not being a regular for Real and I really think they'd be willing to part with. I think he's worth every bit of 15 million pounds. He's not too old, can play in midfield or the heart of the defense, is very good both offensively and defensively and has ton of experience. He's scored some very important CL goals for Real over the past 3 seasons too. He's definately worth it.

I'd prefer Joaquin over Simao, but Simao would be more of a bargain. I don't think Joaquin is necessarily 10 million pounds better than Simao. Also, Barca aren't necessarily watering the money tree of late.

I think Andersson has done well for Barca. My problem with him is that he is older and we'll need to replace him in a season or two anyway. I say sell him now while we can get the cash and invest in a younger player.

No one's mentioned Rio Ferdinand? Wouldn't you guys love to see him at Barca? Like I said, he'd tie up the defense for years to come.


I think Kevin Hofland would be a the youngster we could invest in

[BLAUGRANA]

I know, but never say never. Also, it's rumoured that West Ham made Leeds agree contractually not to sell him to another English club.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by azulgrana
I know, but never say never. Also, it's rumoured that West Ham made Leeds agree contractually not to sell him to another English club.

Why did they do that?

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by azulgrana
I know, but never say never. Also, it's rumoured that West Ham made Leeds agree contractually not to sell him to another English club.

I don't think we are desperate of Rio because there are defenders that can hold our D for about 1 year until we get enough money to spend just on Rio, right now we should concetrate on Joaquin, Helguera, Mendieta, Hofland, and etc.

[BLAUGRANA]

They probably did it because then if Leeds cash in on him, at least West Ham won't be punished further by having to face him again and again. Kinda like the Mendieta deal when he was sold to Lazio.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by azulgrana
They probably did it because then if Leeds cash in on him, at least West Ham won't be punished further by having to face him again and again. Kinda like the Mendieta deal when he was sold to Lazio.

Ok

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by Azerkid37
it would be wrong to keep Andersson when you could sell him for about f6m and and use that money and add a few more $ and get Hofland who is a solid D and only is 23, and on the other hand we cant afford to wait and pray :rolleyes: for And to be fit and plus he is soon gonna be 31 when we could get Hofland cheap who is 23.


How can u compared a class defender like Andersson with a youngster like Hofland Barcelona wont sell Andersson.

He will be 31 but he can play for 4 more years.


He will be fit for sure.

[BLAUGRANA]

Have to disagree with you there Roberto. PA is more susceptible to injury and doesn't have as much time at Barca as you think. Hofland would be the better choice I think.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego



How can u compared a class defender like Andersson with a youngster like Hofland Barcelona wont sell Andersson.

He will be 31 but he can play for 4 more years.


He will be fit for sure.

Your just sayng that from a biased Swedish point of view since he IS Swedish but Hofland is better than Andersson right now, he probably wasnt when Andersson was in his primetime but now is no needed so much becuase we can sell him to a number of teams instead of waiting for him to recover. You think hewill recover but you never know he could get injuredagain in prctice of something and then what sit an wait another year? It's better to get Hofland who is a solid D and is strong and experienced for his age. What Barca is loking for are young playrs that can beinvested in for next 5-8 years but how can w invest in Andersoon when hes 31 and instead sell him and use tha cash to get Hofland.

[Azerkid]

I can't imagin how you think it's better t keep a injury prone D istead of selling him to a number of clubs who wouod buy him for about 5-8m and use that money to get Hofland. Even if PA gets healthy then he still wont be the same Defender he was before so i think its better to get Hofland not just for Barca but for PA's career too because if get a Rio (:D) or Van Bommel in next year and get Hofland then where is PA gonna be? on the bench rather then playing for a club where is gonnaget alot of time.

[BLAUGRANA]

Andersson's still got it, but I'd rather bring in Hofland at this point. Once he leaves PSV, if he doesn't come to Barca he never will. Nothing against Swedes Roberto. I'd love to see Freddy Llungberg at Barca.

[Olesen10]

Have you guys heard about a Figo-Ronaldo swap? (Figo to Inter and Ronaldo to Real Madrid...) I can't stand the thought of Ronaldo going to Real Madrid...Raul-Ronaldo-Morientes...:(
I just hope it's a silly rumor! But I'd love to see Ronaldo in the Barca-shirt again, even though I don't think he will ever leave Inter...

[Olesen10]

Oh, I forgot! I must agree with Azerkid and Azulgrana! Andersson is still good, but he will son be to old. Man Utd. did the right thing when they said no to buy Rivaldo, he is 30, and will only could play for max. three years more. Why spend 74 £ on a thirty year old player, when they could buy a cheap youngster and make him really good? Go for Hofland!

[BLAUGRANA]

I haven't heard about that swap Lasse. I'm an Inter fan too. I think Ronnie will be staying on at Inter. I would hope Inter went for someone other than Figo or preferrably just took straight cash for Ronnie.

[BLAUGRANA]

I say forget about Kevin Hofland (makes no difference what we think anyway as Barca already have it would seem). I say go for Christian Chivu. Real want him real (no pun intended) bad. He can play out LEFT and would take care of that vacancy. He can play in the center too. Koeman is very worried he'll lose him to Real and rates the player very very highly. I say Barca should go in for him. His buyout clause is reportedly 17.5 million pounds and probably wouldn't leave for a penny less. He's already done well though in Holland and for Romania (especially at Euro 2000) and Hagi rates him very highly as well. He's also very young. He's my new defensive target.

[BLAUGRANA]

Leeds have sacked manager David O'Leary (a stupid move by a stupid club). This to me means that Rio Ferdinand is gone! I think he'll end up at Man Utd, but wouldn't it be nice we offered Christanval and some cash for him?

[BLAUGRANA]

Do you know how to add an avatar to your name? If you go to the top of the page and click avatars there's a pretty big selection. Here's a hint for you:

FORCA BARCA!!!

[Olesen10]

Originally posted by azulgrana
I say forget about Kevin Hofland (makes no difference what we think anyway as Barca already have it would seem). I say go for Christian Chivu. Real want him real (no pun intended) bad. He can play out LEFT and would take care of that vacancy. He can play in the center too. Koeman is very worried he'll lose him to Real and rates the player very very highly. I say Barca should go in for him. His buyout clause is reportedly 17.5 million pounds and probably wouldn't leave for a penny less. He's already done well though in Holland and for Romania (especially at Euro 2000) and Hagi rates him very highly as well. He's also very young. He's my new defensive target.

If Hagi and Koeman rates him that high, I say go for him!

[BLAUGRANA]

Nice avatar there Lasse. Now we'll really have a tough time telling ourselves apart. I wish you could have more than one avatar.

[Olesen10]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Nice avatar there Lasse. Now we'll really have a tough time telling ourselves apart. I wish you could have more than one avatar.

I'll see if I can change mine...Looks not good with two avatars of the same kind...

[BLAUGRANA]

Whichever you choose is fine by me. I kinda liked all the same avatar though as we really look like a United group. Kinda Cool.

[Olesen10]

See your point! Changed it back...

[BLAUGRANA]

Imagine Lasse if we were in charge of Barca! We'd have Barca ruling the football world! The Barca coat of arms would be everywhere!

[Olesen10]

What a dream! I'm going to Camp Nou in about two weeks, maybe I could make friends with good old Gaspart! :D

[Azerkid]

I like this, :thumbsup: all 3 of us having the same avatars we are the "AAO" :D. But about the Chivu thing, i think he's a great player almost next Hagi but he plays attacking futbol in which we have plenty of so i dont think we need a half-defence & half-attack-player, we need a pure hard-nosed defender, an plus Chivu is young and i think we could aquire him next if Real doesnt.

[Azerkid]

Are there any rumours of a Jaap Stam transfer? I heard tings that he wasnt gonna play for Lazio. Could he be coming to us?

[BLAUGRANA]

Koeman said/thinks Chivu is a top notch defender too Azer, not just a good attacking defender. He's got a good all around game.
He really would be one of the best defensive targets for Barca IMO. Also, if Madrid are in for him he must have game.

Stam could be headed out of Lazio, but then again he could stay. He's been linked with a few clubs, but no firm bids for him have been made. He says he's happy at Lazio too. I think he's still a very good defender (not necessarily the same view as that of Man Utd fans), but he's on the older side. I think he's 29-30. I'd rather pay the extra money for someone younger like Chivu or Helguera. Or, for the same price as Stam you could have Hofland.

[BLAUGRANA]

Going to the Camp Nou!!! That's great. The museum sounds really cool and is a very popular museum, the most visited in that part of Spain even over a Dali museum. The stadium will be amazing too.

Let Gaspart know Azulgrana says hello. Also, tell him to sell Christanval, Andersson, Geovanni, Rochembach, Dani, Alfonso and Dutruel. Then, tell him to buy Joaquin OR Chivu, Simao and Tristan.

[BLAUGRANA]

Real Betis say that if anyone wants Joaquin, they'll have to pay his 37.5 million pound buyout clause. I say Barca should go for him and have him be our only remaining signing of the offseason. We could sell Geovanni to drum up sum cash to help fund the deal. He's so young, it'd be a good investment.

[BLAUGRANA]

Barca want to offload Alfonso to Real Betis and save some money. He makes a reported 1.75 million pounds a year (a lot for someone who's either injured or rides the bench). Also, Barca expect to get 4 million pounds for him if they sell him which will be put to new signings. I think the money saved on his salary is very important and this is a prime example of what is happening and is going to happen at the club as a result of the current financial climate. LVG seems to be offloading the deadwood. I think he's got some more work to do though.

Cannavaro has been linked with Barca. I read it on what I would consider one of the more reliable web pages. With all the Serie A clubs cooling off in terms of their interest in the player, it makes sense. I'm a bit torn because I'd like to see someone younger and cheaper come in (he's about 28 and would cost about 22 million pounds). However, Cannavaro is pure class and is a real battler just like Puyol. It's good to see them looking to revamp the defense.

And now to Mendieta. Barca have supposedly pulled out bringing him in. He would cost a lot fo money whether they took him on loan or bought him outright. IMO, I agree with decision. He's just too expensive.

[Azerkid]

how real is it of us to aquire Hofland and Joquin together and maybe Chivu?

[BLAUGRANA]

Not very real at all. I'd say we could get Joaquin alone (and that's even a maybe, it would probably take a sale or two which is why i suggest selling Geovanni as they play the same position for the most part) OR Chivu and Hofland. DEFINATELY NOT all three. Just Chivu or just Hofland are both realistic though.

Prices for the three players:

Joaquin 37.5 million pounds
Hofland 11 million pounds
Chivu 17.5 million pounds

These are based on rumours i've read that have quoted these as each player's respective buyout clauses.

[Azerkid]

I don't know spending 37.5 on Joa is smart but i think its a rumour he probaly worth around 15-20 and then pries will be lowered when or if they negotiate.

[BLAUGRANA]

I don't see him leaving Betis for less than 30 million pounds.

[Azerkid]

is it possible for us to get Chivu and Hofland together since thier total price equals Joaquin's price?

[BLAUGRANA]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It'd either be Joaquin OR the other two.

[Olesen10]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Going to the Camp Nou!!! That's great. The museum sounds really cool and is a very popular museum, the most visited in that part of Spain even over a Dali museum. The stadium will be amazing too.

Let Gaspart know Azulgrana says hello. Also, tell him to sell Christanval, Andersson, Geovanni, Rochembach, Dani, Alfonso and Dutruel. Then, tell him to buy Joaquin OR Chivu, Simao and Tristan.

Sure, I'll do that! :D Not the first time I've went to Camp Nou though...

[Olesen10]

Hofland are a defender, right? And Chivu is a defensive midfielder?
Tough question! Joaquin would be good at Barca, but we also need some defensive players...How old is Joaquin? Since we need defenders, I say go for Hofland and Chivu, though I'd love to see Joaquin in Barca!!

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Olesen10


Sure, I'll do that! :D Not the first time I've went to Camp Nou though...

Tell Rivaldo that he still owes me money because i was teaching how to bicycle kick ;)

[Azerkid]

Think Joa is around 21-23 years.

[Olesen10]

Okay. Still, it's hard to find a solution! Have LVG even talked about Joaquin, Hofland or Chivu?

[Olesen10]

Just read some of the old threads here. Found out that LVG has been targeting Hofland...

[Azerkid]

I think LVG will get Hofland because he has been targeting him since he became the coach, and plus Barca has many Dutch players which will help Hofland. About the other rumours im not sure because i havent heard LVG talk about Chivu and Joa.

[BLAUGRANA]

The strongest link (most realistic/talked about) of those three players was for Hofland. He was a target, but sadly is no more. I expect him to either stay with PSV or go to Arsenal. The transfer season is still going though, and I'd never rule anything out.

Joaquin is the second strongest link, but like Hofland it's been a while and I really don't expect him to come in. Barca just won't spend that kind of money this offseason. BTW, he's 20-21.

Chivu is my rumour. He has been linked with Real Madrid though. I just rate him very highly and would like to see him at Barca. Never say never.

[BLAUGRANA]

Barca and Valencia are supposedly only 3 million pounds away from a Kily deal. Valencia are sticking to their price of 12 million pounds while Barca are only offering 9 million. Hopefully Barca doesn't offer any more than that. 9 million wouldn't be a bad price actually. Prices are in pounds.

[Olesen10]

Is it Kily Gonzales? I don't think he's got it to be in the Barca squad!

[BLAUGRANA]

I think he does, he just wouldnt' be my first choice. I'd rather we got Vicente if we're gonna deal with Valencia. Kily at 9 million pounds isn't a bad deal though. I just hope Barca stick to their guns on this one.

[BLAUGRANA]

Supposedly can be had for 10 million pounds. We aren't a rumoured club after him though.

[Olesen10]

Who's he?

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by Olesen10
Who's he?


he is a mexican defender

h
e had a good WC but he is not such a great DF.

[Olesen10]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego



he is a mexican defender

h
e had a good WC but he is not such a great DF.

OK!

[BLAUGRANA]

I'd have to disagree with Roberto a bit on Rafa Marquez. He's a decent defender. He's done well for Monaco and Real were after him more than a year ago, so all this attention isn't just based on his WC performances. However, I'd still rather have Chivu or Rio or Helguera or Hofland or ALL OF THEM. :D

[BLAUGRANA]

Just curios.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
I'd have to disagree with Roberto a bit on Rafa Marquez. He's a decent defender. He's done well for Monaco and Real were after him more than a year ago, so all this attention isn't just based on his WC performances. However, I'd still rather have Chivu or Rio or Helguera or Hofland or ALL OF THEM. :D


He is not to good for me,he is not to fast but is a good marker but sometimes he makes some fatal errors.

[Olesen10]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Just curios.

Who? What?

[BLAUGRANA]

YOU! When are you going to Barcelona?

[Olesen10]

Originally posted by azulgrana
YOU! When are you going to Barcelona?

Oh, Friday. We have to drive down there. We'll stay there for about three weeks, and has planed at least one trip to Nou Camp... :star:
Man I'm looking forward to it!!!!! We crash at a place called Villanova Park. About 25 miles from Barcelona...
Villanova Park has some pretty good soccer fields...:)

[Olesen10]

Maybe some catalan scouts sees me play, and introduces me to LVG...HAHAHA

[Roberto Abrego]

:D

[BLAUGRANA]

I've read Roma are selling Asuncao to Real Betis which could mean they are gonna cash in Joaquin. If they sell, Barca should break the bank and get him. It's now or never.

[Olesen10]

GO GO GO Barca!

[BLAUGRANA]

This guy should be our priority. From onefootball.com:


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Puyol warns Barca over new deal

Sunday 30th June 2002

Spain defender Carles Puyol has insisted he does not want to leave Barcelona but claims he may be forced into a move if their offer of a new contract is not satisfactory.

Despite still having two years to run on his current deal, Puyol, who enjoyed an outstanding World Cup despite his side's shock quarter-final exit to South Korea, has a relatively low buy-out clause of £16 million.

He rejected president Joan Gaspart's offer of a new deal prior to the World Cup and has hinted he may look for a transfer if his demands aren't met.

"My aim is to stay here for a long time," he said. "I have two more years on my contract and it was the club who called me to renew it.

"But you never know how things are, the world of football is such that you can never assume anything.

"I didn't agree with what Barcelona offered me before the World Cup and we didn't reach an agreement on anything. All I can say is that I didn't agree with their last offer."

He added: "I want to see how the club values me. It would be very hard to leave Barcelona, but if an offer came in, I would study it and then decide."

[BLAUGRANA]

I just read that Newcastle are possibly interested in Simao, but want Benfica to lower their 7 million pound price tag! WHAT ARE WE DOING!?!?!?!?!?! 7 million pounds is a drop in the bucket for him. LVG should give him a chance. Serra Ferrer never did. With the club's current financial situation, 7 million pounds for a player like him would be good business.

[BLAUGRANA]

According to tribalfootball.com, not too reliable IMO. The deal sounds a bit steep too. Anyway, Betis would pay 10 million pounds for Alfonso over two seasons. His wage is a bit high though and they'd want Barca to help with that. I say if this is the case, sell him. We'd be lucky to get 5 million pounds for him.

[BLAUGRANA]

Supposedly we along with Real and Inter are interested in Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. Chelsea want a lot for him though and we can't pay that much, so I think it's just a rumour. It did say that it could be Kluivert swap though. That would be a huge mistake. I don't think we'll give up Kluivert just yet.

[BLAUGRANA]

Let's hope so. This from soccerage:

Barcelona To Offload Dutruel To Espanyol
News Archive



06/30/2002. French goalkeeper Richard Dutruel is reportedly close to a transfer to Espanyol, after seeing his proposed move to Stade Rennais collapse last week. Arsenal's Austrian goalie Alex Manninger is also on coach Juande's short-list. Dutruel could also go to Alaves if this transfer does not go through.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
According to tribalfootball.com, not too reliable IMO. The deal sounds a bit steep too. Anyway, Betis would pay 10 million pounds for Alfonso over two seasons. His wage is a bit high though and they'd want Barca to help with that. I say if this is the case, sell him. We'd be lucky to get 5 million pounds for him.


10ml is the right price

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
This guy should be our priority. From onefootball.com:


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Puyol warns Barca over new deal

Sunday 30th June 2002

Spain defender Carles Puyol has insisted he does not want to leave Barcelona but claims he may be forced into a move if their offer of a new contract is not satisfactory.

Despite still having two years to run on his current deal, Puyol, who enjoyed an outstanding World Cup despite his side's shock quarter-final exit to South Korea, has a relatively low buy-out clause of £16 million.

He rejected president Joan Gaspart's offer of a new deal prior to the World Cup and has hinted he may look for a transfer if his demands aren't met.

"My aim is to stay here for a long time," he said. "I have two more years on my contract and it was the club who called me to renew it.

"But you never know how things are, the world of football is such that you can never assume anything.

"I didn't agree with what Barcelona offered me before the World Cup and we didn't reach an agreement on anything. All I can say is that I didn't agree with their last offer."

He added: "I want to see how the club values me. It would be very hard to leave Barcelona, but if an offer came in, I would study it and then decide."


we cant afford to loose him :(

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
I just read that Newcastle are possibly interested in Simao, but want Benfica to lower their 7 million pound price tag! WHAT ARE WE DOING!?!?!?!?!?! 7 million pounds is a drop in the bucket for him. LVG should give him a chance. Serra Ferrer never did. With the club's current financial situation, 7 million pounds for a player like him would be good business.

It will be great to have him Back.

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
Let's hope so. This from soccerage:

Barcelona To Offload Dutruel To Espanyol
News Archive



06/30/2002. French goalkeeper Richard Dutruel is reportedly close to a transfer to Espanyol, after seeing his proposed move to Stade Rennais collapse last week. Arsenal's Austrian goalie Alex Manninger is also on coach Juande's short-list. Dutruel could also go to Alaves if this transfer does not go through.

I read that to but I think that they prefer Manninger over Dutruel
:(

[Roberto Abrego]

Originally posted by azulgrana
I've read Roma are selling Asuncao to Real Betis which could mean they are gonna cash in Joaquin. If they sell, Barca should break the bank and get him. It's now or never. it will be great to have him he is one of the spaniards I most admire.
but I dont think we can buy him and Simao this season :(

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego


I read that to but I think that they prefer M